Tuesday OT
June 24, 2014 6:23 AM - RowerChick
GM

Happy subway bed stuy mosaic.


266 comments
June 24, 2014 6:28 AM - dibs
GM

How about a Spin The Bottle App for your phone for your next party

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g1CU7flnrXw
Edited at June 24, 2014 6:28 AM
#1
June 24, 2014 6:30 AM - RowerChick
Subway art makes me happy.

I think the OT could use some happiness. Could we make this a non antagonistic day for a change?

Positive thought: snappy should be sprung from Methodist in a matter of days.

What makes you happy today?
#2
June 24, 2014 6:33 AM - dibs
Sex with Pharrell????

Happy.....

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i0A3-wc0rpw
Edited at June 24, 2014 6:33 AM
#3
June 24, 2014 7:13 AM - sixyearsandcounting
In my day we never needed an app for that.
#4
June 24, 2014 7:14 AM - BirdnestHead
D'Aquisto guitars!
Edited at June 24, 2014 7:14 AM
#5
June 24, 2014 7:15 AM - dibs
In Mississippi….of course….

a 3-year-old girl badly scarred and wearing an eye patch because of a pit bull attack was apparently asked to leave a KFC restaurant because her appearance upset other customers.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/16/us/kfc-dog-mauling/

I'm sure many other customers in a Mississippi KFC were equally repulsive!

Edited at June 24, 2014 7:19 AM
#6
June 24, 2014 7:15 AM - dibs
Apple pie for breakfast!!!
Edited at June 24, 2014 7:15 AM
#7
June 24, 2014 7:40 AM - sixyearsandcounting
The last thing a Christmas ornament sees...
#8
June 24, 2014 7:41 AM - dibs
Speaking of which, how is MM's cat????
#9
June 24, 2014 7:53 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM

I may meet a very amusing friend for a drink this evening. So that's a happy thought.
#10
June 24, 2014 7:59 AM - Partridge
Good morning and HAPPY Tuesday.
#11
June 24, 2014 8:02 AM - BoerumHillScott
It looks like the girl getting kicked out of KCF story was a hoax to raise money for the family.
The girl apparently does have real medical issues.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/06/23/girl-tossed-from-kfc-hoax/11284405/
Edited at June 24, 2014 8:02 AM
#12
June 24, 2014 8:10 AM - BirdnestHead
Read a Hiasson book a while back where one of the characters was trying to put cockroaches into yogurt containers, in order to get big money with a lawsuit...
#13
June 24, 2014 8:12 AM - BoerumHillScott
Consumer complaint/lawsuit abuse is big in the South, although certainly not limited to that region.
There is a culture of petty fraud that rivals anywhere else I have lived.
#14
June 24, 2014 8:13 AM - dibs
White trash family. Hope the girl doesn't grow up to be like them. But, it could be worse actually. Those families that force young kids to be beauty pageant entrants.
#15
June 24, 2014 8:15 AM - BoerumHillScott
I have plenty of stories I could tell about my former in-laws in Alabama, but not online.
#16
June 24, 2014 8:29 AM - BoerumHillScott
On the stupid consumer front, it is funny how quickly 3d TV was forgotten about, and now the big thing is 4K TX, which has 4x the screen resolution of 1090 HD. I will say that anyone buying a 4K tv today is a complete MORON.

There is no way to get real 4K content, and none on the immediate horizon.
Current streaming services (including Netflix) can very rarely even deliver full HD, the cable/satellite systems are not much better, and there are no plans for physical 4K discs.

#17
June 24, 2014 8:42 AM - dibs
“It costs money to run buildings.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/24/nyregion/panel-backs-rent-increase-of-one-percent.html?ref=nyregion&_r=1&assetType=nyt_now
#18
June 24, 2014 8:59 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Interesting analysis of subway crime by station:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/daily-news-analysis-reveals-crime-rankings-city-subway-system-article-1.1836918
#19
June 24, 2014 9:18 AM - RowerChick
And more on the rent front:

Maybe Danny Meyers will consider a Brooklyn location for something more than the Shake Shack. I miss Florent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/24/dining/union-square-cafe-joins-other-victims-of-new-york-citys-rising-rents.html?ref=todayspaper
#20
June 24, 2014 9:22 AM - dibs
I just had the most bizarre experience, deja-vu like but it was a smell, not an image….of Tahiti when I was there in 1985.
#21
June 24, 2014 9:22 AM - More4Less
My boy loves 3D movies but only if they are action packed ones else he complains it's too slow and 3D is not enough to keep his attention
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:22 AM
#22
June 24, 2014 9:25 AM - DeadCatBounce
BnH, I knew Jimmy D'Aquisto pretty well personally.
Visited his shop in Farmingdale and when he moved to the North Fork, visited him there.
He was an amazing artist.
#23
June 24, 2014 9:29 AM - petebklyn
" it was a smell, not an image….of Tahiti when I was there in 1985." -- what was his name?
#24
June 24, 2014 9:32 AM - dibs
I don't remember. I met him on the beach. At the end of the trip, I gave him my Walkman with my Ah-Ha tape.
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:33 AM
#25
June 24, 2014 9:36 AM - dibs
I replaced the Ah-Ha tape years later with a CD and I have many of the songs from that album on my iPod but I feel I should never have had to pay for the replacements since I paid for the cassette tape once. Or so I have been told here.
#26
June 24, 2014 9:36 AM - dibs
Mixed market. DOW -19 points
#27
June 24, 2014 9:45 AM - sixyearsandcounting
"Or so I have been told here."

That settles it.
#28
June 24, 2014 9:48 AM - petebklyn
never mind the stock market...what about weather report?
#29
June 24, 2014 9:51 AM - dibs
It's very nice here. 76? now but getting to the high 80s today and tomorrow.
#30
June 24, 2014 10:00 AM - petebklyn
I still have never been any location of ShakeShack. Nor Florent. But I did go to Union Square Cafe probably 25 years ago.
#31
June 24, 2014 10:04 AM - rf
Me too, Pete! Maybe we were there on the same day!
#32
June 24, 2014 10:04 AM - dibs
I haven't been to Shake Shack either. There's one not too far away down here in Philly.

i won't go to 5 Guys because, unless I'm drinking beer with a burger, I want a chocolate shake and they don't have shakes.
#33
June 24, 2014 10:20 AM - rf
75 here, going up to 79.
#34
June 24, 2014 10:20 AM - rf
There's a Shake Shack near Roosevelt Field Mall on Long Island.
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:20 AM
#35
June 24, 2014 10:21 AM - petebklyn
4 guys is your limit?
5 Guys more a takeout than eat-in. (nh)
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:21 AM
#36
June 24, 2014 10:24 AM - petebklyn
cut back the bleeding hearts, pruned a few other things. Transplanted some coleus to window box out front. watered a few plants. and clothes are in the washer. when they are finished work done for the day.
#37
June 24, 2014 10:32 AM - petebklyn
beware the radical republicans in congress if interested in US economy. Unintended consequences.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-24/ex-im-bank-faces-test-as-republican-bank-demise.html
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:32 AM
#38
June 24, 2014 10:40 AM - sixyearsandcounting
"There are two types of people in this world: those that can extrapolate to find missing information."
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:40 AM
#39
June 24, 2014 10:55 AM - MontroseMorris
GM

Sorry to say, the kitty didn't make it. Acute kidney failure, which came out of nowhere. The vet said there was no hope, so we put her to sleep.

RIP Nimue.

She's in the front. Her mom, who is still with us, is behind her.
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:55 AM
#40
June 24, 2014 10:59 AM - dibs
Very sorry. That's too bad.
#41
June 24, 2014 11:02 AM - rf
Aww, MM, sorry.
#42
June 24, 2014 11:06 AM - Slope4Eva
Sorry about the kitty, MM.

GM.
#43
June 24, 2014 11:10 AM - MontroseMorris
Thanks.

Cats are so stoic, it's hard to tell when something is wrong until they just stop eating and moving around, and it's usually too late at that point. I've lost a few to kidney failure over the years. The vet said the symptoms don't show up until they are generally too far gone.
#44
June 24, 2014 11:13 AM - dibs
randi's being his usual assishness self over there>>>>>>>
#45
June 24, 2014 11:15 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Sorry to hear that, MM! Will you get another one?
#46
June 24, 2014 11:16 AM - sixyearsandcounting
US dentist Edward Gamson is suing British Airways after he booked first-class tickets to Granada in Spain, but ended up in Grenada, the Caribbean island.
According to the New York Daily, Gamson and his partner were still in the air seven hours after their plane was due to land in the Moorish capital of Spain, their intended destination, from London.
Instead, they landed approximately 6437 kilometres away in the Caribbean.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-planning/travel-news/british-airways-bungle-sees-couple-bound-for-granada-land-in-grenada-20140624-3apzc.html#ixzz35ZOoxR1y
Edited at June 24, 2014 11:16 AM
#47
June 24, 2014 11:22 AM - MontroseMorris
Wow, that 's a big mistake. I'd hate to book a flight to Rome and end up in Rome, NY.

No, Six, I have more than enough other cats.
#48
June 24, 2014 11:27 AM - dibs
I'm sure the real details of that flight booking story are missing. Sounds like a few Village Idiots were out on the loose when that happened.
#49
June 24, 2014 11:29 AM - sixyearsandcounting
"According to the legal complaint filed, he could not check details of the destination against the ticket as it did not contain the airport code, destination country or flight duration.
He told The Independent: “I made it absolutely clear to the booking agent I wanted to go to Granada in Spain. Why on earth would I want to go to Grenada in the Caribbean if I was flying back to America from Lisbon?”
#50
June 24, 2014 11:35 AM - dibs
Yes, six. And people who are suing over disputes like this ALWAYS tell the truth about the details. That's why broker dealer trading desks record EVERY call.

If he's American there's a high probability he din't even know there were more than one Granadas.
#51
June 24, 2014 11:41 AM - DeLepp
Carl Hiasson is a great novelist for airline reading.
#52
June 24, 2014 11:41 AM - dibs
"the ticket as it did not contain the airport code, destination country or flight duration."

Yeah, right. Then how was it even a ticket???? No, they never have flight duration.
#53
June 24, 2014 11:48 AM - dibs
"Gamson"

Sounds like an Asian guy's profile name on Silverdaddies
#54
June 24, 2014 12:00 PM - sixyearsandcounting
lol - of course they're morons. The ticket *always* includes the airport code. And there's also a Granada in Nicaragua, it seems.

I don't see why they were complaining at all - they flew business class and they wound up on a Caribbean island!
Edited at June 24, 2014 12:00 PM
#55
June 24, 2014 12:01 PM - dibs
Bitchy queens????? I'd love a video of the hissy fit he threw. it probably started on the plane.
Edited at June 24, 2014 12:01 PM
#56
June 24, 2014 12:21 PM - dibs
randi is a complete ass over there. I bet he gets banned.
#57
June 24, 2014 12:41 PM - BoerumHillScott
You really are obsessed with the guy.
#58
June 24, 2014 12:43 PM - dibs
Ummmm…I made some comments over there and he came after me. it's not that hard to figure that out, Scott, contrary to how you want to view things as me always being in the wrong.


#59
June 24, 2014 12:47 PM - More4Less
How about a few fuck you'd thrown around to release the stress?
#60
June 24, 2014 12:48 PM - dibs
We don't say that over there, m4l.

besiders, I have no stress to relieve. It seems others here do though.
#61
June 24, 2014 12:49 PM - Partridge
It's his shoulders, Scott.
#62
June 24, 2014 12:50 PM - sixyearsandcounting
lol @eny over there
Edited at June 24, 2014 12:50 PM
#63
June 24, 2014 12:52 PM - More4Less
Or as delepp often suggests, rub one out
#64
June 24, 2014 12:53 PM - Partridge
I get the sensation often, but very strongly the last couple of days, that the OT is a reality show of some sort and is entirely scripted except for my posts. You are all in on it. Candid OT.
#65
June 24, 2014 12:55 PM - dibs
rf here in 3,2, 1 to come to partridge's aid after not understanding that it was a joke…...
Edited at June 24, 2014 1:00 PM
#66
June 24, 2014 12:55 PM - dibs
Partridge, you are the STAR of the show. it's called The Biggest Loser!!!!!
#67
June 24, 2014 12:58 PM - petebklyn
unrequited love it is called.
Edited at June 24, 2014 12:58 PM
#68
June 24, 2014 1:00 PM - Partridge
The Biggest PLUSA???????

Wheres the fuckin' weight loss, I ask?
#69
June 24, 2014 1:00 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Part, I've had that sense for the last five years...
Edited at June 24, 2014 1:00 PM
#70
June 24, 2014 1:03 PM - Partridge
And I dreamed last night that Grace Adler joined the OT. She was a hoot. And Rob is really Jack.
Edited at June 24, 2014 1:03 PM
#71
June 24, 2014 1:05 PM - Partridge
lol, Six. Happy I'm not alone in my little 'show'.
Edited at June 24, 2014 1:05 PM
#72
June 24, 2014 1:16 PM - dibs
SIx…massive layoffs by Arabtec, one of Dubai's biggest construction companies.
Edited at June 24, 2014 1:16 PM
#73
June 24, 2014 1:30 PM - MontroseMorris
So nice to see you and Randi buried the hatchet in each other's skulls, Dave.
#74
June 24, 2014 1:31 PM - dibs
His stupidity just amazes……

DH
June 24, 2014 at 12:10 pm
Sweet. Lights in sidewalks is cool!


Reply
daveinbedstuy
June 24, 2014 at 12:52 pm
They aren’t very effective in detering crime though


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Moonface
June 24, 2014 at 1:05 pm
wat?


Reply
daveinbedstuy
June 24, 2014 at 1:12 pm
I can’t type it any slower so that you will understand.


Reply
Moonface
June 24, 2014 at 1:16 pm
how is “They aren’t very effective in detering crime though” a response to what DH said?! FYI you also spelled deterring wrong ^^^


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daveinbedstuy
June 24, 2014 at 1:17 pm
It’s pretty self explanatory.

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Moonface
June 24, 2014 at 1:20 pm
actually it makes absolutely no sense, but seeing as you would never admit you are wrong i will claim victory again and be done with it.
PWND

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daveinbedstuy
June 24, 2014 at 1:24 pm
Simply amazing. I’ve never run into such stupidity here since the guy who couldn’t figutre out that there was a difference between “equity” and “gain”

I’ll expalin it since I feel pity for you. he commented that they were cool. I added that they were not a deterrent to crime (as most lighting should be but with the implied acknowledgement that they were cool).

I know some of those words are more than twi syllables but if you read them very slowly, and have someone look them up for you, you might understand.
#75
June 24, 2014 1:32 PM - dibs
It wasn't my comments that drove randi away. I think you had more to do with that, MM. Believe what you must.
#76
June 24, 2014 1:34 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Yes, I saw that, Dave. Not sure what the reason is but it seems to be limited to Arabtec. Maybe mismanagement or they fell out of political favor which means a lot there. Of course the same thing could be happening in other firms and they might be doing a better job of keeping it quiet.
#77
June 24, 2014 1:41 PM - dibs
Yes, I'm not sure how pervasive it is. The Dubai stock market fell over 6% yesterday and is down almost 26% since its May high. The "market" usually knows more than participants individually but it also always overshoots on both the way up and the way down.
Edited at June 24, 2014 1:48 PM
#78
June 24, 2014 1:47 PM - MontroseMorris
Dave, your insinuation that I had anything to do with driving Randi away makes about as much sense as blaming Obama for the war in Iraq. Talk about cognitive dissonance and an utter disregard for truth.
Edited at June 24, 2014 1:47 PM
#79
June 24, 2014 1:53 PM - dibs
MM…it's pretty simple. If you don't want to hear about it, don't bring it up.
#80
June 24, 2014 2:15 PM - sixyearsandcounting
The World Cup has its own Mike Tyson...Luis Suarez of Uruguay bit an Italian player. Apparently it's the third time in his career that he's bitten another player!
#81
June 24, 2014 2:17 PM - MontroseMorris
You are totally delusional. As usual.

And you brought it up, not me.
Edited at June 24, 2014 2:18 PM
#82
June 24, 2014 2:18 PM - dibs
He can bite me!!!!!!!
Edited at June 24, 2014 2:18 PM
#83
June 24, 2014 2:20 PM - rf
MM, don't bother.
Edited at June 24, 2014 2:20 PM
#84
June 24, 2014 2:21 PM - dibs
The D.C. Council voted 9-4 Tuesday to keep the controversial "yoga tax" in its budget in its $10.6 billion budget.

The 5.75 percent sales tax on health club memberships and yoga studios has received vocal opposition from the fitness community in D.C. Councilmember and mayoral candidate David Catania opposed the tax increase and introduced an amendment to remove it from the District's budget, but that amendment was voted down.

This is pretty clear politics. I'm sure the majority of the DC constituency does no exercise whatsoever. Why shouldn't the elitist, organic food consuming minority who want to stay fit not pay for the lifetyles of the rest??????




Edited at June 24, 2014 2:27 PM
#85
June 24, 2014 2:22 PM - dibs
NO. You did with this….

"So nice to see you and Randi buried the hatchet in each other's skulls, Dave."

Or can you not remember what you post from one minute to the next?????
#86
June 24, 2014 2:25 PM - dibs
$1.00/lb roasters at the Super Fresh!!!!!!!
#87
June 24, 2014 2:26 PM - DeLepp
I second the love bite from Luis. Wonder how he feels about gingers.
Edited at June 24, 2014 2:26 PM
#88
June 24, 2014 2:27 PM - Partridge
Six, M4L, DeLepp, Pete, someone please entertain Dave.
#89
June 24, 2014 2:27 PM - Partridge
There you are!
Edited at June 24, 2014 2:27 PM
#90
June 24, 2014 2:28 PM - dibs
More soccer players, please.
Edited at June 24, 2014 2:28 PM
#91
June 24, 2014 2:33 PM - DeLepp
I'll be in Costa Rica next month, I'll try and get you a poster of Luis, shirtless and in briefs.
Edited at June 24, 2014 2:33 PM
#92
June 24, 2014 2:36 PM - sixyearsandcounting
I already posted the airline tix article and the football bite. My work here is done.
Edited at June 24, 2014 2:36 PM
#93
June 24, 2014 2:37 PM - dibs
I bet I can find one on google images.
#94
June 24, 2014 2:45 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Maradona: Hand of God
Suarez: Mouth of God
Edited at June 24, 2014 2:44 PM
#95
June 24, 2014 2:45 PM - dibs
I should turn the P-Town basement into a man cave. Two of my brothers have them, all filled with sports photos and lots of stuff about their kid's sports accomplishments. Mine would be full of soccer guys photos and the occasional rugby scrum. And Carlos Ruiz too, of course
#96
June 24, 2014 2:48 PM - DeLepp
haha Six.
Edited at June 24, 2014 2:48 PM
#97
June 24, 2014 2:50 PM - MontroseMorris
Yes, I said that, which was equally as condemning of both of you acting like 5 year olds. However, YOU had to show a complete lack of a sense of humor, and then try to make it sound as if I had a part in Randi's leaving this site.

"It wasn't my comments that drove randi away. I think you had more to do with that, MM."

Or can you not remember what you post from one minute to the next?????

Edited at June 24, 2014 2:50 PM
#98
June 24, 2014 2:53 PM - dibs
((((rolls eyes)))))

Beating a dead horse, yet again, MM.
#99
June 24, 2014 2:55 PM - MontroseMorris
The poor horse only seems beaten when you've decided not to play any more because you lost. Any other time, you'd be bringing it back to beat on ad nauseum all day long, and sometimes on to the next day too.
June 24, 2014 2:56 PM - dibs
See my 2:53


June 24, 2014 3:00 PM - RowerChick
I have a good friend in Salt Lake City who used to date a soccer pro. We said she had a 'Mimbo'.

When she lived in the city, she said the soccer on telemundo was her porn
June 24, 2014 3:00 PM - MontroseMorris
Whatever. A sore loser is a sore loser.

Moving on.
June 24, 2014 3:01 PM - dibs
See my 2:53, yet again
June 24, 2014 3:02 PM - BoerumHillScott
I have no idea what the overall situation is in DC for sales taxes on services, but a sales tax on health clubs and similar services make sense to me.
It clearly meets the definition of a discretionary/non-essential/luxury item.
Edited at June 24, 2014 3:02 PM
June 24, 2014 3:19 PM - DeadCatBounce
They could have a sales tax on health clubs, but refund the tax if the person actually worked out!
June 24, 2014 3:20 PM - petebklyn
you have a basement in p-town? Isn't that prudent on a sand bar sticking out into ocean?
June 24, 2014 3:21 PM - petebklyn
I was wrong about niece and knicks dance team. That won't be decided until tomorrow evening.
But she and 2 others are doing the typical graduate from college thing and going to split a 1 bedroom apt in
StuyTown.
Edited at June 24, 2014 3:21 PM
June 24, 2014 3:23 PM - dibs
We are pretty high up on a hill. In fact, we are on what's been traditionallly known as "Snob Hill" I don't know how it got that name. It's certainly not the most expensive properties in town and, until I came along, everyone there were very nice locals.
June 24, 2014 3:26 PM - petebklyn
You'd probably be 1st on line demanding guvment rebuild your place when the hurricane hits.
Edited at June 24, 2014 3:26 PM
June 24, 2014 3:28 PM - dibs
I'm never "on line"

Hurricane is covered by private insurance. Flooding is not. We are not in a flood zone.

Besides, I've paid more than my fair share already to the government.
Edited at June 24, 2014 3:28 PM
June 24, 2014 3:29 PM - petebklyn
1 bedroom layout -- convertible to 3 bedroom apparently for $3000.
http://www.pcvstliving.com/pages/room-planner.asp?fp=ST1BR
Edited at June 24, 2014 3:29 PM
June 24, 2014 3:31 PM - rf
Yes I can see how they could make 3 BR out of that--split the master BR and wall off the part of the living room that has a window. Lots of new grads do that.
June 24, 2014 3:32 PM - petebklyn
if only she had a job already
June 24, 2014 3:34 PM - petebklyn
she splits part of a house in fresh meadows now with bunch of other students. and grew up in house with 2 sisters and brother....1 full bath - and a 1/2. So - she'll cope.
Edited at June 24, 2014 3:34 PM
June 24, 2014 3:35 PM - rf
The film on PBS last night about a 25-year-old documentary filmmaker newly diagnosed with MS was really good. Poignant and sad but excellent. I wonder if Randi knows the guy.
http://www.pbs.org/pov/wheniwalk/


June 24, 2014 3:38 PM - dibs
randi's lurking so he'll see it.
June 24, 2014 3:39 PM - petebklyn
so last evening -- if you were out you'd know what a beautiful evening with nice breeze. So I look out to terrace next door....and the couple both have sweat pants and hoodies on- pulled over head...and the female had a lap blanket.
Sometimes I wonder ---is it me? why does everyone seem nuts?
Edited at June 24, 2014 3:39 PM
June 24, 2014 3:39 PM - dibs
Market turned down. Not sharply. I wonder if this is the beginning of a Summer selloff.
June 24, 2014 3:40 PM - rf
And worth mentioning that the guy looks like Dave material. He's definitely straight but dark with a nice body.
Edited at June 24, 2014 3:40 PM
June 24, 2014 3:41 PM - dibs
Pete…you get a lot of New Yorkers there being close to the City. That would explain most of the issues. I'm sure they all say "on line" too
June 24, 2014 3:43 PM - petebklyn
they look more like breadknots. I was wondering if from florida or texas. both skinny. late 20's maybe. skinny.
Refuses to even look at me when I'm out in front and he's going into building.
June 24, 2014 3:45 PM - dibs
Those sorts have no social skills at all. It's amazing that they can even function in society.
June 24, 2014 3:46 PM - DeLepp
Were they chewing on ice? If so, crystal meth pharmacists.
June 24, 2014 3:46 PM - petebklyn
He looks like a twink. If he didn't have the GF....
Maybe he's afraid of us.
June 24, 2014 3:49 PM - dibs
Probably gay curious and can't admit it.
June 24, 2014 3:51 PM - dibs
Do they own it or just renting????
June 24, 2014 3:53 PM - DeLepp
If Pete plays twink right he could end up on the gay hipster tumbler.
Edited at June 24, 2014 3:53 PM
June 24, 2014 3:54 PM - rf
Haters gotta hate!
June 24, 2014 3:55 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Ughhhh came to Qathra's quiet and virtually empty backyard to work outside and a family with two kids arrives and takes the table right next to me when there are like five other tables to pick from.
June 24, 2014 3:57 PM - dibs
LOL, Six. Morons everywhere it seems
June 24, 2014 4:02 PM - petebklyn
renters. generally quiet enough.
Edited at June 24, 2014 4:02 PM
June 24, 2014 4:05 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Luckily the kids' attention span wasn't that long. They left to go to the park.
Edited at June 24, 2014 4:05 PM
June 24, 2014 4:07 PM - dibs
Be glad they aren't hipster types then with all their stupid indie music
June 24, 2014 4:18 PM - petebklyn
the garden apt is vacant now. That is the one I get nervous about when someone new moves in. Lot of turnover in the
4 unit bldg.
Last ones were very nice. There have been jerks....like the ones who would babysit dog and let dog out in backyard early in morning and go back to bed and let dog bark.

Never really saw butterflies in backyard here much --2 today. one orange. one yellow.
June 24, 2014 4:20 PM - petebklyn
of course I'm 'curious' as to what he charges next door. I've never seen a listing. Realtor on court st he seems to use -never updates their website with current listings. I'll have to walk over and check their window...maybe I'll find there.
June 24, 2014 4:22 PM - petebklyn
so this Alstom/GE deal....will it effect stock price?

June 24, 2014 4:23 PM - petebklyn
the sticks are falling off the ailanthus today in the breeze. at least the stink if over but makes a racket on the roof of sunroom,
June 24, 2014 4:28 PM - dibs
I'm keeping my GE. They are transitioning away from all the finance businesses and being pure industrial. That will expose them more to the business cycle but they won't have exposure to any future financial meltdowns. I expect consistent raises of the dividend.
June 24, 2014 4:33 PM - petebklyn
'transitioning' ---- from M to F or F to m?
I know -- one of the trite buzzwords - like deliverables.
June 24, 2014 4:41 PM - dibs
FTM

Finance To Manufacturing
Edited at June 24, 2014 4:41 PM
June 24, 2014 4:46 PM - petebklyn
There were 2 big GE plants in Utica when I was kid -- but nothing like Schenectady.
June 24, 2014 4:47 PM - dibs
And, of course, Utica Club beer
June 24, 2014 4:54 PM - petebklyn
that is still there. but GE long gone.
June 24, 2014 4:56 PM - dibs
I'm sure they left a nice amount of pollution behind.
June 24, 2014 5:01 PM - petebklyn
I don't think so. not like the PCBs in the hudson. One plant made radios or radio parts. Other one was defense I think. Friends father had security clearances and such to work there(higher up).
Edited at June 24, 2014 5:01 PM
June 24, 2014 5:01 PM - petebklyn
time for a walk.
June 24, 2014 5:08 PM - More4Less
Anyone want to bet against me that randi will be back? I'll even accept the bet from randi himself.
June 24, 2014 5:16 PM - dibs
LOL, bank robber in Philly here got on a bus. Cops pulled bus over a few blocks later.


June 24, 2014 5:55 PM - dibs
LOL...newscaster here just apologized for using the phrase "paddy wagon"
Edited at June 24, 2014 5:56 PM
June 24, 2014 5:58 PM - dibs
Moron state legislators in DE cant unsderstand why the casinos need a bailout there. They have to pay 47% tax to DE. It's 8% in NJ.
Edited at June 24, 2014 6:10 PM
June 24, 2014 5:58 PM - Deleted


From "The Atlantic" magazine:

"Yes, the Iraq War was a disaster of historic proportions. Yes, seeing its architects return to prime time to smugly slam President Obama while taking no responsibility for their own, far greater, failures is infuriating.

But sooner or later, honest liberals will have to admit that Obama’s Iraq policy has been a disaster. Since Obama took office, Iraq watchers - including those within his own administration - have warned that unless the United States pushed hard for inclusive government, the country would slide back into civil war. Yet the White House has been so eager to put Iraq in America’s rearview mirror that, publicly at least, it has given Maliki an almost-free pass. Until now, when it may be too late.

By ignoring Iraq, and refusing to defend democratic principles there, he has helped spawn the disaster we see today. "

June 24, 2014 6:07 PM - Deleted
The US Conference of Mayors issued a report projecting the growth rate of the 363 largest cities/metro areas in the US. FIVE of the bottom ten cities are in upstate New York: Buffalo, Elmira, Kingston, Utica-Rome, and - dead last of projected growth in the United States - Binghamton.

Congratulations, Cuomo: New York State has won some type of prize. What's to worry, though? All that decline upstate means cheaper summer homes for your base.
June 24, 2014 6:09 PM - dibs
It seems clear to everyone in the world except the Administration, that a unified Iraq is not going to work. There is now infighting among Sunnis and infighting among Shiites. The policy has been a disaster and Maliki has been the primary problem. Just as Karzai is in Afghanistan.
June 24, 2014 6:35 PM - sixyearsandcounting
I agree with Benson's 5:58, but the problem is that pushing for a more inclusive gov't would not have worked unless we had troops there. That was impossible because neither Maliki nor any other PM of Iraq would have dared renegotiate the SOFA treaty (dating from the Bush period) by which US forces would leave Iraq by 2011. This treaty was very popular with the Iraqi people and no politician anywhere in the world remains in power by calling for foreign troops to continue to stick around.
June 24, 2014 7:04 PM - DeadCatBounce
I have a young Teamster friend who is from Binghamton. Since 2010 he has been investing in small multi-family homes. He started very small, and now has 12 cash flow positive properties and a full time property manager.
Not arguing with Benson's point above, just saying that a person with ambition, a willingness to take a risk, and work hard can succeed wherever he/she happens to be.
My friend did all this and still drives a truck full time to earn his living.
June 24, 2014 7:17 PM - MontroseMorris
Benson, as you well know, upstate NY has been in decline since the 1950s, when manufacturing left in droves. There is enough blame to go around for every governor since to take a piece of it, including Nelson Rockefeller and George Pataki. It's not just on Andrew Cuomo, whom you happen to really dislike for other reasons, anyway.
June 24, 2014 7:19 PM - dibs
One word: Fracking
June 24, 2014 7:29 PM - Deleted
Montrose;

When I graduated engineering school in 1979, about 80% of my classmates headed upstate for opportunity. Note the date: 1979, not 1950. At that time they could go to work at IBM in Binghamton (now closed) or Endicott (now closed) or Kingston (now closed). They could work for Xerox, Corning, or Bausch and Lomb in the optics field. At one time I know about 10 classmtes who worked up there - only one remains. The rest have moved on to Arizona, Texas and North Carolina.

Face reality: NY is a high tax. high spending state that has chased all industry out accept those sectors that have a huge margin, like Wall Street. New York spends more on Medicaid than California, which has double the population. Andrew Cuomo has done nothing to alter this reality.
June 24, 2014 7:41 PM - dibs
many others as well..Eastman Kodak, for example and a few mid sized chemical companies
Edited at June 24, 2014 7:41 PM
June 24, 2014 7:50 PM - MontroseMorris
Granted, Benson, I'm not saying it's hunky dory. But to dump it on Cuomo is neither fair or correct. Plus engineering jobs are not the only jobs that left. Far more basic manufacturing jobs left long before the engineering. Manufacturing, period, has gone for the most part. Much of that had little to do with what any governor could do, unless he exempted them from taxes altogether or gave them free land. Some of that blame goes to the companies themselves who decamped out of the country, or down South. And companies like Kodak are as much victims of changing technology as they are high taxes. It's a lot more complicated that simply pointing the finger at Cuomo.
June 24, 2014 7:53 PM - dibs
"Some of that blame goes to the companies themselves who decamped out of the country, or down South."

Blame? They went to places more friendly to business with lower taxes, primarily. Acted rationally
Edited at June 24, 2014 7:53 PM
June 24, 2014 7:54 PM - dibs
Well, Cuomo is in charge now and there's no indication that anything will change. not that I actually care about NYS one bit anymore
June 24, 2014 8:00 PM - Deleted
As DIBS indicated above, NY is sitting on an opportunity called fracking, and here is where the ball is squarely in Cuomo's court. Again, let's face reality: he is loath to upset his downstate base, which is just fine with an undeveloped upstate, as it appeals to their environmental ethos and makes for good weekend homes.
Edited at June 24, 2014 8:00 PM
June 24, 2014 8:22 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
GE

Or...Cuomo is studying the arguments against fracking, which happen to be pretty substantial, and fracking is mainly unregulated, and he doesn't want the lawsuits or 'Love Canals' of days past, while they're *still* cleaning up the *expensive* messes left by other less regulated corporations all over the state! Rational.
Edited at June 24, 2014 8:24 PM
June 24, 2014 8:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
But don't let that get in the way of your so-called free market analysis.
June 24, 2014 8:34 PM - dibs
Cobble, you are speaking out of your ass. Show me where fracking has actually produced any danger to land, water or people. It has not. We've been over this before yet apparently you weren't there for that class or, more likely, refuse to believe the evidence. fracking is regulated (and heavily taxed) by each state where it occurs.

But please, yes, go ahead and compare it to Love Canal. trust me, if there was any question about fracking, dozens and dozens of companies would already be out of business or bankrupt. They are not and you know not of what you speak.
Edited at June 24, 2014 8:34 PM
June 24, 2014 8:36 PM - dibs
It's your sort of left wing liberal environmentalist and in this case, uneducated political support that Cuomo needs and has to kow tow to
Edited at June 24, 2014 8:36 PM
June 24, 2014 8:38 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
They're not out of business because they haven't broken any laws, but this does not mean fracking isn't causing problems in many places. It's partially regulated, but not for the issues it's causing! So stop obfuscating, cause you look silly!
June 24, 2014 8:42 PM - dibs
Show me the evidence of where it is causing problems. Google the video of the burning tapwater. not from fracking. ll of them have been proven fraudulent. Real evidence.

You are the one who looks silly, or worse here.
June 24, 2014 8:42 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oh yes, the gov really gives a crap what I have to say! Ha! I'm sure he's not going ahead with it because scientists and engineers are suggesting, nay, proving to him, that there are reasons not to! If there is every reason to do it, then I'm sure he would, but he isn't, and your argument is superficial at best. Go study what's happened in PA, and get back to me. Kthxbai.
June 24, 2014 8:43 PM - dibs
you are very naieve. If tere were fracking issues, the share prices of the companies involved would get annhiliated
June 24, 2014 8:44 PM - dibs
I have studied it. I've made a lot of money in the stocks and I am still invested.

What an asinine response. Really. You made a claim it was dangerous and i ask you for evidence and you tell ME to study it. really being an ass on this one.
Edited at June 24, 2014 8:45 PM
June 24, 2014 8:47 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
There are issues! Clear issues. Just not already regulated issues. Stop dancing around it.
June 24, 2014 8:47 PM - dibs
What are they?????? these issues that you think are clear issues???
Edited at June 24, 2014 8:47 PM
June 24, 2014 8:49 PM - dibs
And please don't bring up water supply. There's a whle industry of companies supplyimg water for fracking, filtering it and purifying it
Edited at June 24, 2014 8:49 PM
June 24, 2014 8:52 PM - dibs
You're out of your league on this one. As much as this may sound incomprehensible, this is a subject that perhaps I know more about than you do, and have so for a long time.

Good night.
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:01 PM
June 24, 2014 9:07 PM - BirdnestHead
fracking. It's potentially good. Really good. Issues: Water water water. There is a huge industry transporting and cleaning fracking water. There's also a huge industry of not cleaning the water. There's also a huge industry that doesn't have to list the water additives. There's a huge industry that is dumping untreated water. Water is a problem that will get much worse. As any decent engineering professional journal will cite, (and has been for years) there's gonna be a water shortage in the US that's gonna make everyone forget about oil. Water will become economically unfeasible at some point. Also, it doesn't get all the oil/gas. Also, it's not all recoverable. Better results with jellied propane. Completely recoverable, gets all the oil/gas. Expensive relative to water, so far. Water farcking equipment cannot be retrofitted to handle jellied propane.

Issue 2: Leaks around the drill hole. Particularly bad if it's at the hard stone boundary between the area to be fracked and the water table above.

These are environmental issues that probably are not yet being properly identified and regulated. I.E. the fines for doing it improperly are not yet big enough.

Now STFU, I have to have dinner.

dick
June 24, 2014 9:13 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ha! Don't mess wif BnH before he's had his dinner! ; )
June 24, 2014 9:17 PM - petebklyn
is after 9P..Dibs is asleep by now so please keep your voices down.
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:17 PM
June 24, 2014 9:19 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
You're right, of course, Pete. Terribly rude of us, so sorry. (Not!) ; )
June 24, 2014 9:20 PM - petebklyn
I think Lola is closed on smith street. Unless tuesday night is night off. Was TJ's -- italian and switched to italian/tapas and seemed to get more business but I guess not enough. I liked it. It wasn't busy and noisy. But apparently people prefer busy and noisy. Go figure.
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:20 PM
June 24, 2014 9:20 PM - petebklyn
I haven't had dinner yet and I'm not grumpy like BnH
June 24, 2014 9:21 PM - BirdnestHead
That guy won't give a shit until all the vineyards die off.
June 24, 2014 9:22 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I prefer busy-ish but not noisy. Factor of age, I guess. Lola was fun, calm and nice. Ah well.
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:22 PM
June 24, 2014 9:22 PM - BirdnestHead
Due to......

LACK OF WATER

moron
June 24, 2014 9:22 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Or he stops making money.
June 24, 2014 9:24 PM - BirdnestHead
I'll have the pinot barium, or maybe the cabernet a la sludge
June 24, 2014 9:26 PM - petebklyn
Certainly in western US water will continue to increase as problem. I don't know that upstate NY faces any threat of that. With increased global warming perhaps upstate will become the new Florida. Invest there now. You heard it here first.
June 24, 2014 9:27 PM - Deleted
BnH's post points to the essence of the problem with government that liberalism has wrought, and that is that it has become sclerotic. The author Philip K. Howard has written extensively on this issue. He points out that European governments, Germany in particular, have arguably tougher environmental regulations. The key difference, however, is that all environmental reviews must be complete within a strict timeframe, usually six months. The reason for this rule, Howard points out, is that there are interests - litigation lawyers and environmental "consultants - who benefit from an interminably long review. These consultants will use the fact that there is ALWAYS uncertainty that requires "further study".

Howard points to the current Bayonne Bridge improvement to show where this leads. The Bayonne Bridge is merely being lifted higher to make way for bigger ships. The environmental review? FIVE YEARS.

The irony of modern day liberalism is that it has ambitious plans for government, and then makes it sclerotic with all these reviews.
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:27 PM
June 24, 2014 9:27 PM - petebklyn
water may become more valuable than gas/oil...and upstate can export that instead.
June 24, 2014 9:31 PM - petebklyn
"that is that it has become sclerotic."
I know what you mean, benson. These benghazi and irs hearing have been going on forever already. only to start all up again.
June 24, 2014 9:33 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Or the barium and whatever else leaking into the ground water starts killing people, which could take years to notice, but why would DIBS or benson care about future generations. Short review, feh. How about thorough review?
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:36 PM
June 24, 2014 9:39 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I love this graphic. I saw it Sunday night, with the short people, for the first time.

http://water.usgs.gov/edu/earthhowmuch.html

Don't f*ck it up!
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:39 PM
June 24, 2014 9:40 PM - rf
Ate at Sotto Voce,7th Ave. corner 4th St., treated by a mean girl, after visiting another mean girl, still/again in ICU. Yum!
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:40 PM
June 24, 2014 9:42 PM - petebklyn
Sotto voce is definitely something we don't believe in here.
June 24, 2014 9:43 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
My sibs husband's family owns a nice chunk of land upstate. Just next to a nice big resevoir. Gr.gr.daddy was a smart smart man.
June 24, 2014 9:44 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Nice, rf! One of these nights I'll have a social life again, and hope to join you. : )
June 24, 2014 9:45 PM - rf
Cobble, we were talking about that tonight! Hope it's soon.
June 24, 2014 9:49 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
We'll see, I hope so. Piles of papers already arriving, and the top aide is going for surgery this week. It's going to be a long summer...
June 24, 2014 9:49 PM - Partridge
Yes, please, Means and Meanmens. We need many more glasses of wine. Soda or coffee for my big Mean friend.
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:49 PM
June 24, 2014 9:51 PM - dibs
" Short review, feh. How about thorough review?"

Yxou completely misunderstood benson's whole point. The Bayonne Bridge environmental review has been 5 years. Special interest bullshit.

A thorough review of anything cannot possibly take 5 years.

Get a grip and try to walk forward into reality.


Edited at June 24, 2014 9:52 PM
June 24, 2014 9:52 PM - Partridge
Sleepy..... good night!
June 24, 2014 9:53 PM - petebklyn
partridge already sounds like she had enough wine.
Who woke dibs up?
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:53 PM
June 24, 2014 9:54 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Hey, as long as you're earning money, right? Who gives a crap if a review is thorough, amirite? So transparent and mercenary, DIBS.
June 24, 2014 9:55 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Big Meanie is making coffee right now! Best to go to bed, LP...it could be a late night!
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:55 PM
June 24, 2014 9:56 PM - petebklyn
is a transparent a mother or father who had sex change operation?
Edited at June 24, 2014 9:56 PM
June 24, 2014 9:57 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
And, of course, cancer causing agents always show up in the 6 month review, no? Ask the people near the GE plant or Love Canal, they'll tell you. Not!
June 24, 2014 9:57 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Snort! Now you're just being punny, Pete. ; )
June 24, 2014 10:00 PM - dibs
OK, good answer. Lets stop all progress, all technological innovation because we may discover some ramifications 20 years down the road, or not.

That's just classic. really, classic. but it fits your liberal environmentalist politics in this case.
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:00 PM
June 24, 2014 10:01 PM - Deleted
"Ate at Sotto Voce,7th Ave. corner 4th St."

And you didn't stop by to say hello?????
June 24, 2014 10:03 PM - Deleted
DIBS;

Look at the bright side: sooner or later a movement that relies heavily on fear-mongering is doomed to failure. Most people want to move ahead.
June 24, 2014 10:06 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
How about we not give in to financial pressures from investors, do the due diligence, figure out the issues, deal with them, and then earn money, knowing there won't be ramifications 20 years down the line? Why does that concept bother you? Doesn't the possibility of poisoning people and/or ground water disturb you? Oh right, you won't be here in however many odd years, so why care if it's handled correctly? F*ck the environment, local residents, and later investors.


Edited at June 24, 2014 10:06 PM
June 24, 2014 10:08 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Sure, the lawsuits and clean up costs may doom these ideas even more!
June 24, 2014 10:08 PM - dibs
benson, unfortunately large percentages of the population now feel self entitled to more and more from the government and they elect those oficials who will who cater to providing that. the same ones who will work to stymie progress in the guise of whatever other cause they feel their constituency will support.

the only real chance the world has is that technology can always stay one step ahead of morons in government
June 24, 2014 10:09 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
If the science is there, go for it, but standing in the way of finding out is insanity.
June 24, 2014 10:11 PM - dibs
Cobble, the due diligence has been done. thats why these companies have the valuations they have. if tou dont believe that or believe there's some sinister wall street conspiracy then you are more naieve than i thought. have you not heard of short sellers????

All the due diligence has been done.

But you, apparently know better than the market.


Edited at June 24, 2014 10:11 PM
June 24, 2014 10:12 PM - rf
Benson, I know where you don't live but I don't know where you do live.

I have gone to the hospital to visit at least 5 days a week for 5 weeks now.
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:12 PM
June 24, 2014 10:12 PM - petebklyn
someone I know brought me a box (small) of chocolates back from switzerland. There may rival JTs. Just had 1st one tonight.
June 24, 2014 10:13 PM - dibs
Pete, how do you know those are chocolates???? How do you know you wont get cancer from them? have you done any due diligence????
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:13 PM
June 24, 2014 10:13 PM - petebklyn
LOL -- Pot meet kettle---
"Look at the bright side: sooner or later a movement that relies heavily on fear-mongering is doomed to failure."

June 24, 2014 10:13 PM - dibs
OK...good night...for good
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:13 PM
June 24, 2014 10:19 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I know enough to know that corporations are happy to make money any f*cking way they can, and do. Now run off to bed, you need your beauty rest. : P
June 24, 2014 10:20 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I do believe you are getting spoiled by your many admirers, Pete. : ) And you deserve it.

I *love* DIBS argument that the markets know best. Bah ha ha ha ha! Mortgage crises, anyone?! They know until they don't know! Ha!
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:30 PM
June 24, 2014 10:28 PM - dibs
very, very naive, Cobble. That sort of thinking is what keeps you from making money in the stock market and only you are the loser because of it. If you can't understand most of it, thats one thing and understandable. but to take that attitude is just plain ignorant
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:28 PM
June 24, 2014 10:34 PM - dibs
Now you are confusing systemic risk with corporate malfeasance but please, barrel right into it, afterall, you know better
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:34 PM
June 24, 2014 10:34 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oh please, unlike you, I know that making money is not *the* defining quality of life. I know you enjoy it, but, seriously, there are larger considerations. Now go to bed. You've lost the argument, and you're keeping me from playing WWF.
June 24, 2014 10:37 PM - dibs
The quality of life bullshit is a completely differnt argument. Try not to get distracted.

I guess I have lost the argument because you just dont understand. Thats a new point of view I'll have to remember. Tou'd think I would be used to hearing that sort of claptrap here
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:39 PM
June 24, 2014 10:39 PM - petebklyn
I didn't vote in primary today. But I guess really wasn't serious contest.

Edited at June 24, 2014 10:39 PM
June 24, 2014 10:42 PM - dibs
Pete...it has been amazing that some of these races were such an upset based on such incredibly low primary turnout around the country
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:42 PM
June 24, 2014 10:42 PM - petebklyn
bedtime for me now too.
June 24, 2014 10:43 PM - rf
I thought you said you were really going to bed this time, Dave. Now you are sounding like the average 3rd grader.
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:43 PM
June 24, 2014 10:43 PM - dibs
Some bizarre places in Perth on House Hunters International
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:43 PM
June 24, 2014 10:43 PM - Deleted
Cobble is channeling her inner Chelsea Clinton. In case you haven't heard, Chelsea doesn't care about money:

"I’ve tried really hard to care about things that were very different from my parents. I was curious if I could care about [money] on some fundamental level, and I couldn’t. That wasn’t the metric of success I wanted in my life."

Man, imagine if she did care about money!! After all, here's a person who makes $600,000/ year as a "special correspondent" for MSNBC (and she didn't use any connections to get that job, no sirree), and she is married to a hedge-fund manager. I'm sure Chelsea dated a lot of plumbers in her day.
June 24, 2014 10:44 PM - dibs
Fuck off, rf before I tell you what you are sounding like!!!!!!!!!!
June 24, 2014 10:44 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Quality of life for the planet? For the people living near toxic wells? Poisoned aquifers? The risks companies are taking that will effect future investors who have to pay for the lawsuits and clean up? Who's kidding who here, DIBS? Just because you chose to only view the short-term gains, doesn't negate the broader or longer term issues.
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:44 PM
June 24, 2014 10:46 PM - dibs
Cobble...show me one toxic well, one poisoned aquifer. Show me. otherwise STFU.
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:46 PM
June 24, 2014 10:47 PM - dibs
Who feeds you this shit??????..
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:47 PM
June 24, 2014 10:51 PM - dibs
LOL, benson. Chelsea is becoming a real piece of work.
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:51 PM
June 24, 2014 10:51 PM - DeLepp
Chelsea "I don't care about money but look at my $10 million condo" Clinton.
June 24, 2014 10:52 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
DIBS, if you read more than the stock quotes, you wouldn't need to ask me to show you. It's intellectually lazy of you to play out that argument that the markets tell the whole story. They don't. It's been proven time and again. Of course there is always risk, but there is also willful ignorance and manipulation.
Edited at June 24, 2014 10:53 PM
June 24, 2014 10:57 PM - dibs
Yet you have shown me absolutely nothing to prove your point abput fracking being dangerous. I have read far more on this topic than you can imagine. i've been to industry meetings. So, dont tell me what imneed to read up on.

I know far more of the whole story than you do and until you produce some evidence to convince otherwise, I suggest you cut your losses here because so far, all you have done is lecture your political point of view. And to call me intellectually lazy when you have no produced one shred of evidence to support your view is just being an ass.

Edited at June 24, 2014 11:07 PM
June 24, 2014 11:05 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
http://rt.com/usa/167388-pennsylvania-fracking-wells-leaking-methane/

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/23/pa_health_officials_ordered_to_ignore_fracking_related_health_complaints/

http://www.law360.com/m/energy/articles/549733/pa-dep-fines-fracking-co-for-spills-at-well-pad

http://www.uta.edu/news/releases/2013/07/Schug-water-well-contaminants-study.php
June 24, 2014 11:06 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Tsk tsk, name calling!
June 24, 2014 11:09 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Please, IF you've read so much, then you know the issues, and you're just being willfully ignorant to make money.
June 24, 2014 11:10 PM - dibs
LOL...your first article starts out

"Thousands of abandoned oil and gas wells across the state of Pennsylvania could be leaking methane gas into the atmosphere, a new report states."

the operative word there is "could". Whatever they leak into the atmosphere they burn off, LIKE EVERY. GAS WELL. EVER DRILLED

I'm not even bothering to look at the others after that.



Go to bed before you make a bigger ass out of yourself

Edited at June 24, 2014 11:10 PM
June 24, 2014 11:10 PM - BirdnestHead
http://m.slashdot.org/story/203767
June 24, 2014 11:11 PM - dibs
You still dont get it do you??? If I was ignorant and the facts were against me, I wouldnt be making any money

Capisci?????????
June 24, 2014 11:12 PM - rf
Oooh I am so ascared of mean old Dave calling me names! And with that, I bid you all buenas noches.
June 24, 2014 11:12 PM - dibs
BnH...I heard Haeir the big appliance company is going to open a plant here. truly amazing.

Dick
June 24, 2014 11:13 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
But keep shilling for the industry, DIBS, by all means.
June 24, 2014 11:13 PM - dibs
you started with the name calling , rf. getting old or selective memory i guess.
Edited at June 24, 2014 11:13 PM
June 24, 2014 11:14 PM - dibs
Cobble, give it up. You are really making yourself sound absurd here.
Edited at June 24, 2014 11:14 PM
June 24, 2014 11:16 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
BnH is reading a book. Try it sometime. : P

Seriously, you've been to industry meetings? Whoa! They never lie to keep stock prices up! That would never happen! Snort.
Edited at June 24, 2014 11:16 PM
June 24, 2014 11:17 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
DIBS, darling, you lost this argument hours ago. Give it up, and go snuggle with Nick.

The Law360 link should interest you. Corporate fines! Ohs no!
Edited at June 24, 2014 11:19 PM
June 24, 2014 11:21 PM - dibs
And yet fracking goes on in almost a dozen states, with no reportable environmental impact. And certainly no evidence from you to the contrary. Yeah, I guess I lost. And I took it to the bank too.


Edited at June 24, 2014 11:21 PM
June 24, 2014 11:23 PM - dibs
And yet fracking goes on in almost a dozen states, with no reportable environmental impact. And certainly no evidence from you to the contrary. Yeah, I guess I lost. And I took it to the bank too.

One fine of $300k in a multi billion dollar industry, against a private company. WOW. I guess you won the whole argument. God, get a grip. The sad part is that you actually believe this shit you are spewing.


Edited at June 24, 2014 11:23 PM
June 24, 2014 11:25 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Took it to the bank ... for now. I'm guessing they don't present the studies showing environmental impact at your industry meetings! C'mon, DIBS, seriously? The fox didn't tell the hens he mght eat them?! Say it isn't so! Bwah ha ha ha ha.
June 24, 2014 11:27 PM - dibs
"I'm guessing"

Stop the fucking pontificating and show me some real evidence. I'm guessing you reallly dont have an actual clue, just a political agenda that is at best ill focused and at worst plain ignorant.
Edited at June 24, 2014 11:28 PM
June 24, 2014 11:32 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Perhaps your agenda is just playing beat the clock with the facts? The facts are there, it's just a matter of time until your little game of craps gets shut down. You're smart in the sense that you can play the market, and do well, but reality will come to roost at some point with this.
Edited at June 24, 2014 11:32 PM
June 24, 2014 11:37 PM - dibs
At least I know the facts as they currently exist. Why is it always "just a matter of time" before your opinion is proved right???? That's called speculation or wishful thinking, not fact as they currently exist.

How about rooting for America's energy independence instead of trying to shoot down what you obviously dont really fully understand??????


Edited at June 24, 2014 11:37 PM
June 24, 2014 11:42 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
From your industry meetings? I bet they have PowerPoint presentations and everything! Lolzzzz.

I am for energy independence, but not on the backs of the people that live where the fracking is going on. And it's just a matter of time until the evidence builds up to a point that legislators are forced to regulate more heavily.

Ok, now I have to go to bed! And I've kept you up hours past your bedtime. I win! ; )
Edited at June 24, 2014 11:43 PM
June 24, 2014 11:45 PM - dibs
yes, it's always "just a matter of time" when the facts dont agree with your point of view. This is the sort of logic that you always hear from those who cant prove their point

In fact, since I' m off tomorrow I can stay up all night. you on the other hand.....
Edited at June 24, 2014 11:47 PM
June 24, 2014 11:46 PM - dibs
And mockimg my industry meetings just makes you sound childish and immature.
June 24, 2014 11:50 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Nitey nite, DIBS. You can continue to argue with me. I'll read it in the morning. : P
June 24, 2014 11:51 PM - dibs
Good night. did you lay out your dress for the morning????