Thursday OT
January 9, 2014 7:31 AM - dibs
I hope benson gets his boat

January 9, 2014 7:34 AM - dibs
Belated Christmas drinks tonight with old US Trust colleagues at this place…

Anybody been?
January 9, 2014 7:35 AM - Deleted
Midtown? Pshaw
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January 9, 2014 7:39 AM - dibs
Many of them take trains to CT.
January 9, 2014 7:39 AM - dibs
And I can "do 8th Ave" on the way there.
January 9, 2014 7:40 AM - dibs
First day going into the office in about 3 weeks for me. Looking forward to a glazed donut!!!!
January 9, 2014 7:53 AM - dibs
7,352 posts over there

But only one real douchebag…mtnplover but hasn't been on since yesterday afternoon
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January 9, 2014 7:58 AM - dibs
Pete/randi…what's your best performing growth fund that you like? Got to buy one for X.
January 9, 2014 7:58 AM - DeLepp
dibs, tried to go a couple of times but always a mad house.
January 9, 2014 8:04 AM - dibs

We changed the date to after Christmas just to avoid that sort of thing. And, to move a bit further away from Time Square area and our usual 46/47 street hangouts
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January 9, 2014 8:05 AM - dibs
DeLepp….you too…what's your best growth fund that you like?
January 9, 2014 8:07 AM - dibs
Screening on Morningstar ratings at Schwab, there are two standouts…LGILX and IWIRX but I'm a bit worried about LGILX because it's very tech laden. Still, an incredible 10 year, 5 and 3 outoerformance.
January 9, 2014 8:09 AM - dibs
Two heads have rolled over Bridgegate…both political appointments to the Port Authority. No one from Christie's office though.
January 9, 2014 8:14 AM - petebklyn
I'd probably say fidelity contrafund.
January 9, 2014 8:14 AM - Cobble B. Hiller

DIBS, What do you think of Davis Funds, in general?
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January 9, 2014 8:16 AM - dibs
I know nothing about them, Cobble.
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January 9, 2014 8:19 AM - dibs
Contrafund looks excellent
January 9, 2014 8:20 AM - BirdnestHead
Wow, that Rolling Stone piece is remarkable! Don't know much about Millenials, but that guy needs to open his eyes and brain, and maybe a book or two.

"History teaches us that we learn little from history"
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January 9, 2014 8:21 AM - dibs
Cobble, just looked at Davis. First, it's a dinosaur load fund with a 4.0% back end load when you redeem.

Which one are you interested in? I loooked at two and they underperform the S&P

Not good so far
January 9, 2014 8:28 AM - Deleted
Gm. Dave I'll have to look I can't remember all the names of funds.
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January 9, 2014 8:36 AM - Deleted
I've done well in the is one
January 9, 2014 9:07 AM - Deleted
"The former basketball star Dennis Rodman apologized on Thursday for comments he made suggesting that an American detained in North Korea deserved his fate, saying he had been drinking when he made the remarks to CNN."

My gawd Rodman really is a special kind of Moron.
January 9, 2014 9:12 AM - dibs
randi, that fund has done very well and has a lot of diversity in its top 10 holdings
January 9, 2014 9:20 AM - sixyearsandcounting

"But when a flight attendant tried to help Lauren, the 41-year-old designer apparently told her to "get the fuck out of her face."

"Lauren thought even less of a second flight attendant who tried to intervene, deeming her a "fucking ugly, unhappy blonde bitch."

She also told the pilot that he was an asshole."
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January 9, 2014 9:23 AM - dibs
The Needham Growth Conference is next week. This is one of the most highly visible investment conferences in the country and of the year. Lots of great small growth companies.

Investors get to not only get to hear management presentations but book one-on-one meetings with management.

I am not recommending these stocks. In fact I know nothing about most of them but…

January 9, 2014 9:24 AM - DeLepp
dibs, I'm happy with T Rowe Price: New Horizons and Blue Chip Growth.
January 9, 2014 9:25 AM - dibs
WTF was she doing in the 21st row on a long flight like that with her money????

She looks like a real you-know-what….
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January 9, 2014 9:26 AM - DeLepp
I hope Delta charges her for the money it cost them to divert the flight. $43K
January 9, 2014 9:26 AM - sixyearsandcounting
That was my question too! Economy Comfort at best.
January 9, 2014 9:47 AM - DeLepp
Not shocked that the swamp has biggest income inequality in the country:

January 9, 2014 9:48 AM - dibs
TRP New Horizons closed to new investors. Damn
January 9, 2014 9:56 AM - dibs
Janus Forty Fund also not open
January 9, 2014 9:58 AM - dibs
Bought Fido Contra Fund and IWIRX
January 9, 2014 10:28 AM - dibs
When I got to the office, there was a box on my desk and inside a HUGE box of Lindor truffles…maybe 100 inside. No sender but I think it was from my brother. I guess he thinks he's in the will and is trying to push a quick death.
January 9, 2014 10:29 AM - DeLepp
He wants the Bentley!
January 9, 2014 10:30 AM - Deleted
I'm not buying Christie's story at all. The PA official who his aide was supposedly in cahoots with just happens to be an old high school friend of Christie. And he knew nothing of it?! Gimme a Fucking break.

Dave, is this still a fake scandal???
January 9, 2014 10:30 AM - dibs
The Bentley is in M's name as well as mine. It had to be for me to register it in PA, where I don't have a drivers license.

Risky business!!!!!
January 9, 2014 10:33 AM - dibs
He's innocent until proven guilty, randi.

Fact: So far no one in the know has refuted him.
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January 9, 2014 10:40 AM - Deleted
Innocent til proven guilty? Like Benghazi?
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January 9, 2014 10:42 AM - Deleted
January 9, 2014 10:49 AM - BoerumHillScott
There are now reports that a 90 year old woman died because of delayed response during the traffic jams.
No matter how much Christie knew, this is clearly a case of petty partisan revenge with real consequences.

Compared the “major scandal” of certain groups having to submit extra paperwork to maintain tax exempt status, I would consider this to be much worse.

January 9, 2014 10:55 AM - Deleted
"Compared the “major scandal” of certain groups having to submit extra paperwork to maintain tax exempt status, I would consider this to be much worse."

Really????? That is incredible to me. Let's take it as a given that both scandals are real, for the sake of discussion. To me, using the power of the IRS to stifle political opposition in an election year is a complete abuse of power. "Bridgegate" is also an abuse of power, but its focus was much more narrow.
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January 9, 2014 10:57 AM - Deleted

Thanks for the thoughts about the boat. Dreaming....
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January 9, 2014 10:58 AM - MontroseMorris
"using the power of the IRS to stifle political opposition in an election year is a complete abuse of power."

Yeah, it would be, HAD THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. Which it didn't. Another faux "scandal."
January 9, 2014 11:04 AM - Deleted
Benson Pwnd.
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January 9, 2014 11:06 AM - BoerumHillScott
The net effect of the IRS scandal was that organizations had to file more paperwork and/or face delays in getting 501(c)(4) status certification.
The only organization where 501(c)(4) status was denied was a liberal one.

I would consider the loss of tens of thousands of hours of time for ordinary citizens to be worse than a minor inconvenience for dozens of political organizations.

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January 9, 2014 11:10 AM - dibs
It's a moot point fellas.

Christie has not been implicated

Go find some other Republican to bash.
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January 9, 2014 11:12 AM - Deleted

Filing paperwork for the IRS is often not a minor inconvenience. It involves the real cost of bringing in outside professional help. The larger point, however, is not dollars and cents, it is the effect on the political process.
January 9, 2014 11:12 AM - BoerumHillScott
Just like Obama was not implicated in the IRS scandals?
January 9, 2014 11:14 AM - BoerumHillScott
This is the clearest case of petty political tyranny I can think of in recent memory.
The e-mails are quite damning, showing how Christie’s appointments had an active disdain for the citizens of the state.

We are not talking about career bureaucrats or lower level officials, but direct appointments and personal acquaintances of the governor.
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January 9, 2014 11:15 AM - Deleted
Benson/dibs getting mega PWND for their partisan double standards.
January 9, 2014 11:17 AM - Deleted
Christie is the one who sets the tone for his office.
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January 9, 2014 11:23 AM - BoerumHillScott
Can anyone image what would have happened if a group of Cuomo’s people fucked with the Tappen Zee to or Verrazano to piss off his opponents?
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January 9, 2014 11:35 AM - dibs
And yet he has still not been implicated!!!!!

January 9, 2014 11:42 AM - rf
His deputy chief of staff was implicated--email evidence. Of course he fired her this morning, but certainly it seems that his administration created an atmosphere in which people in his administration and other appointees thought this was a good idea.
January 9, 2014 11:47 AM - BoerumHillScott
Christie is reacting appropriately now, but he looks really bad since the issue was raised months ago, but he blew it off until e-mails were made public.
If he had taken today’s steps back in September, he would have been much more believable.

January 9, 2014 12:06 PM - Legion
The extent of the IRS scandal is still not known due to willful obstruction by the white house and doj.
They already admitted abuse.
What are MM and Scott missing here?
January 9, 2014 12:08 PM - Legion
The IRS scandal. The Fast and Furious debacle and the Benghazi. Affair are still being investigated. One or more will be impeachable once the senate goes to the Republicans.
January 9, 2014 12:13 PM - Legion
Scott, your willful ignorance on the IRS scandal is really disingenuous. Did you not see the testimony.
Law abiding Americans being bullied by IRS, ATF and FBI vermin doing the bidding of bureaucratic, partisan douchebags.
It's part of the congressional record. Look it up.
January 9, 2014 12:14 PM - DeLepp
Christie has a fair amount of good will with the folks of NJ, will be intersting to see how it plays out on national stage. NJ is where people in jail were voted into office, ie. Musto of Union City.
January 9, 2014 12:18 PM - Legion
Christie is looking like a dickweed right now. Will probably survive this though as long as there's plausible denial.
Hell, this entire administration is built on plausible denial.
'Huh? WTF! I had no idea the DOJ gave assault guns to Mexican Drug cartels, but I'll put all emails under executive privilege just in case I did authorize it'
January 9, 2014 12:23 PM - BoerumHillScott
Glad to see that the Republicans are standing behind their party when multiple smoking guns are out in the open.
I assume you all support citizens being bullied by bureaucratic, partisan douchebags when they are appointed by Republicans.
You are really showing your disingenuous colors today. For a group that hates the government and defends the common folk, you don’t seem to care when the there is a clear as day admission of abuse of power if the guilty parties are republican.

The IRS clearly screwed up, and that has been admitted over and over again. People lost their jobs.
The net result was that 501(c)(4) status certifications were delayed.
The additional scrutiny only impacted new certifications, and hit liberal organizations as well (although at a lower rate).

January 9, 2014 12:24 PM - dibs
I just had my year end review. I listed my strengths and weaknesses and areas that need improvement. I set my goals for 2014. I don't know what I'll pay myself as a bonus though.
January 9, 2014 12:26 PM - dibs
So far Scott, the only guilty parties are administrators, not any Republican politicians. If it was done without his knowledge, as it still seems, then , as I said above, he isn't implicated.

It's pretty cut and dry here, unlike the IRS and Benghazi where there are multiple layers.

Apple & oranges really.
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January 9, 2014 12:26 PM - Legion
Let me also add this.
Holding up traffic is really bad, especially if a citizen was harmed in the process.
It pales in comparison to the use of Federal agencies to suppress polotical opposition as it undermines the Constitution itself. Something the President takes a vow to uphold before the entire nation.
January 9, 2014 12:27 PM - BoerumHillScott
I will admit that I have a hard time caring about the IRS scandal because I think that
501(c)(4) status is greatly abused by all sides. I don’t think the government should be granting tax exempt status for any political activity, even if the organization also has educational/cultural/religious aspects as well.
That being said, all groups should be treated equally.

January 9, 2014 12:28 PM - dibs
Legion, I say we just let them go on with their hand wringing and teeth gnashing and get it out of their systems. They probably feel pretty beat up after the last 5 years.
January 9, 2014 12:29 PM - BoerumHillScott
So direct political appointments of a governor are now considered to be “administrators,” not “politicians?”
January 9, 2014 12:30 PM - Deleted

Please kindly note that I stated above that Bridgegate is an abuse of power, and I support the chips falling where they may. If Christie is found to have a hand in it, he should be held accountable. Let it play out.

My only bone of contention remains that the IRS scandal is much more disturbing in its implications for the democratic process.
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January 9, 2014 12:30 PM - Legion
What more do you want scott?
I just said Christie looks like a sack of dick!
He'll probably survive though, if he can maintain plausible deniability.
January 9, 2014 12:34 PM - dibs
Yes, they are administrators. Politicians run for and hold elected offices. They have a say in lawmaking most importantly, appointees may advise but they don't govern.
January 9, 2014 12:38 PM - Legion
I agree dibs, we'll just have to let it play out.
The Dems could use a good chew toy for a news cycle or two. They've had it rough recently.
January 9, 2014 12:38 PM - BoerumHillScott
OK, so we have a disagreement in scope (except for dibs, who is being his typical self), that’s fair enough.

I think that colluding to punish an entire city for the political position taken by its mayor has pretty serious implications for the democratic process as well, and the evidence here is much clearer.

If Obama ore even his 2nd or 3rd level appointees were better connected to the IRS stuff, or if the IRS were more organized with their targeting, I would consider it to be a much greater scandal.

On my way to get coffee, I did have a look outside and there is still a bit of ice on the Hudson.
January 9, 2014 12:39 PM - BoerumHillScott
“Yes, they are administrators. Politicians run for and hold elected offices.”

So by that standard, we should not care about any of the other scandals mentioned unless Obama personally signed off on them.

January 9, 2014 12:40 PM - dibs
You still drive a Hudson???
January 9, 2014 12:41 PM - BoerumHillScott
On a more important note, we have started to watch the 3rd season of “Damages,” and my love affair is starting to fade.
I still highly recommend the first season, especially for people who liked “House of Cards”

January 9, 2014 12:41 PM - sixyearsandcounting
My guess is that when he runs for President, the good people of Iowa and New Hampshire (NH) will have no idea where Fort Lee or the GW Bridge are, nor will they particularly care.
January 9, 2014 12:42 PM - BoerumHillScott
Ha, never had a Hudson.
I did have a 1970 Chrysler Newport, which was the size of a small ferry boat.

January 9, 2014 12:56 PM - Deleted
I think Bridgegate will hurt Christie's national aspirations, regardless of how much he is implicated.

Chrisitie's biggest obstacle is the conservative base of the Republican party, which is already wary of him. Seeing that a Northeast Republican's administration enjoys using big government for their own ends is not going to endear him to them.
January 9, 2014 12:59 PM - DeLepp
Damages was great first season, 2nd season was lame(more fatigue about Bill and ted), 3rd season very topical and has lily tomlin and martin short playing against type. I would hold out till end of 3rd.
January 9, 2014 1:00 PM - BoerumHillScott
RowerChick is still into Damages more than I am, so I'll keep watching, but probably with more multitasking on my computer while doing so.
Netflix has all 5 seasons now (4 and 5 were on satellite, not FX)

January 9, 2014 1:02 PM - DeLepp
yea, stop watching after 3 because of the satellite.
January 9, 2014 1:08 PM - dibs
Watched the first episode of "Inelligence" last night. Might turn out to be a good show.

At least the story line was about bad Chinese stealing secret technology and I was able to point out to a certain someone that China is inherently bad as opposed to most prime time TV which shows ALL white people acting badly, including Downton Abbey!!!
January 9, 2014 1:16 PM - Deleted
Scotts pwn shop has a discount on dibs and Benson and legion double standards. Lol
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January 9, 2014 1:17 PM - dibs
Go water your plants, randi.
January 9, 2014 1:17 PM - dibs
What am I going to do here all afternoon before I head out to meet friends at 5:00?
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January 9, 2014 1:19 PM - Deleted
Go see a movie Dave. American hustle, inside Llewellyn Davis, Nebraska, her are all great
January 9, 2014 1:20 PM - dibs
I don't like going to the movies during the day.
January 9, 2014 1:21 PM - dibs
And the Americana exhibits at Christies and Sothebys are not open until next weekend.
January 9, 2014 1:24 PM - Deleted
I love day movies, what's wrong with them?
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January 9, 2014 1:25 PM - DeLepp
Didn't care for inside llewellyn daivs, but really enjoyed nebraska and american hustle.

Go to the Met, then stop for afternoon drink at Bemelman's bar for a civilized drink before getting on the 6 to the german brew house.
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January 9, 2014 1:26 PM - pepper
Then go to a museum...
January 9, 2014 1:27 PM - dibs
King Cole Bar is only a block away!!!! And I can see The Monkey Bar from my window.
January 9, 2014 1:28 PM - DeLepp
New Yorkers only have a 3 week window to do anything in the city without the hordes of tourists. Take advantage.
January 9, 2014 1:30 PM - dibs
I'll go to the Met next week.

How about you and I doing lunch some day soon????
January 9, 2014 1:39 PM - DeLepp
Much to busy to do lunch with you and be coherent when I get back. How about week of 21st or 27th?
January 9, 2014 1:41 PM - dibs
I'm here through Jan 22 and then not back until Feb 2

Of course there's always weekend brunch
January 9, 2014 1:54 PM - Deleted
Derp, why not email each other about this... Kthanksbye.
January 9, 2014 1:55 PM - DeLepp
yea, but then we have to listen to paint chips and the evils of cilantro chatter.
January 9, 2014 1:56 PM - dibs
I thought the last of the colors had been picked
January 9, 2014 1:59 PM - Deleted
Florida set to surpass NYS in population this year. From # 1 to # 4 in the space of 40 years.
January 9, 2014 2:00 PM - dibs
Derp…why not just MYOB? KthanksBye
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January 9, 2014 2:05 PM - dibs
Taxes, benson
January 9, 2014 2:06 PM - Deleted
You thinking of moving Benson? Florida is the cruise ship of states.
January 9, 2014 2:08 PM - petebklyn
it is llewyn not llewellyn - however much you love the welsh double L.
January 9, 2014 2:17 PM - dibs
That's a rarebit of advice
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January 9, 2014 2:18 PM - petebklyn
sometimes it just leeks out
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January 9, 2014 2:22 PM - dibs
Brynmawr whenever you have any.
January 9, 2014 2:27 PM - BoerumHillScott
It was more like 45 years that NY stopped being #1, but still quite the huge demographic change, and one that goes well beyond tax policy.
Top 10 growth from 1960 -> 2010:
Nevada 847%
Arizona 391%
Florida 280%
Alaska 214%
Utah 210%
Colorado 187%
Texas 162%
Georgia 146%
California 137%
Washington 136%

Bottom 10 Growth 1960 -> 2010:
Massachusetts 27%
Michigan 26%
Rhode Island 22%
South Dakota 20%
Ohio 19%
New York 15%
Pennsylvania 12%
Iowa 10%
North Dakota 6%
West Virginia 0%

During that time, NYC grew by 3%, which included a 10% decline from 1960 to 1980 and a 15% increase from 1980 to 2010.

January 9, 2014 2:33 PM - dibs
Well, of the top four, only AZ has a personal income tax (about 4%) and Alaska even pays out a dividend to all residents every year.

Taxes by state:
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January 9, 2014 2:36 PM - Legion
Folks put in their 20-30 years here in NY for the golden pension then decamp to sunnier climes to take advantage of lower cost of living, more sun and no state taxes.
You can buy a lot of Ben Gay with the savings on the sales tax alone!

January 9, 2014 2:40 PM - Legion
I recall a conversation I overheard a few years back in a local hardware store.
Two young guys (obviously New Yorkers from their accents) were discussing how much "time they had left".
Observing the two relatively young men not far into their thirties, I had no clue what they were talking about when they traded stories about how much "time left" each of them had. At first I thought they were talking about some educational program.
After a couple of minutes it dawned on me.
These guys had entered one of the uniformed services at 18 and were discussing their imminent retirement somewhere around the age of 38!
"twenty and done" as they say.
Of course, they also discussed housing prospects in Florida.
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January 9, 2014 2:43 PM - BoerumHillScott
I think the biggest trend is easy to understand: a move to business friendly states with decent weather. Alaska is the clear counter-example to the good weather rule, but it started off so low that it was easy to get a big percentage jump.

The most interesting thing is differences between neighboring states, especially when the higher tax one grew more.
For example, Georgia (146%) tends to have higher taxes than neighboring Tennessee (78%) and Alabama (45%). I assume the difference is because Georgia was more business friendly, and modernized faster in the civil rights era.

Another strange grouping is North Dakota (6%), South Dakota (20%) and Wyoming (71%).

Sates with no personal tax on earned income:
Nevada 847%, Florida 280%, Alaska 214%, Texas 162%, Washington 136%, New Hampshire 117%, Tennessee 78%, Wyoming 71%, South Dakota 20%

Overall growth rate was 73%

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January 9, 2014 2:44 PM - dibs
Legion, on Monday morning, sitting in 30th Street Station waiting for the train to NYC, I was seated next to where the TSA agents were hanging out and there was an obvious new, young one. He was well into the discussion of how to score overtime with the others but had just not yet gained the extra 75 lbs.
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January 9, 2014 2:45 PM - dibs
Wyoming might have been from an extremely low base number. And I believe it is SD that has all the fracking jobs.
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January 9, 2014 2:51 PM - Legion
that's like the patients I would overhear in the hospital clinics.
They were always trading stories about how to get stuff in bulk.
Apparently there's a big underground market for prescribed Ensure.
January 9, 2014 2:53 PM - BoerumHillScott
Playing with some numbers, and there does not appear to be any real corrolation between sales tax rates and population growth rates.
Lowest average state+local sales tax:
Delaware 0
Montana 0
New Hampshire 0
Oregon 0
Alaska 1.69%
Hawaii 4.35%
Maine 5.00%
Wisconsin 5.43%
Wyoming 5.50%
Virginia 5.62%

Highest sales tax
Texas 8.15%
Arizona 8.16%
California 8.41%
Alabama 8.48%
New York 8.48%
Oklahoma 8.72%
Washington 8.87%
Louisiana 8.89%
Arkansas 9.18%
Tennessee 9.44%

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January 9, 2014 2:57 PM - Legion
If you live in Alaska,
isn't it true that you get some kind of stipend from the State Government
based on their state oil revenues?
January 9, 2014 3:01 PM - Legion
Yes, here it is:

Each citizen gets about $1174 just for being Alaskan.
That's a nice state government. :o)
January 9, 2014 3:01 PM - BoerumHillScott
People in Alaska get a stipend, but I think it has gone down dramatically as the population has gone up and oil production has gone down.
January 9, 2014 3:04 PM - dibs
Juneau that's a really good deal any way you look at it, right?
January 9, 2014 3:11 PM - Legion
you Nome it!
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January 9, 2014 3:19 PM - Deleted
You guys need to barrow a clue
January 9, 2014 3:36 PM - Partridge
January 9, 2014 3:38 PM - dibs
Just another pun fest and I' not gonna get pulled inuit.
January 9, 2014 3:42 PM - Legion
I'll tell you who you'll never see move to Alaska,
the OWS crowd. They just don't believe in Fairbanks. :o(
January 9, 2014 3:50 PM - Deleted
Ha good one
January 9, 2014 3:52 PM - DeLepp
January 9, 2014 3:54 PM - BoerumHillScott
Got bored during a conference call, and played with excel.
Statistical correlations between state growth rate between 1960 and 2010 and :
1960 population: -0.19
2010 population: 0.05
Top state income tax bracket (not including city income taxes): -0.31
Average sales tax: 0.05
Alphabetical rank: -0.14

January 9, 2014 4:04 PM - petebklyn
Is USA less of a country because China and India have many more times the number of people than we do?
January 9, 2014 4:46 PM - Deleted

Poor comparison, as these are both third-world countries, despite their strides in development.
January 9, 2014 4:48 PM - Deleted
On the other hand, California and Texas have surpassed NYS in both population AND economic power.
January 9, 2014 4:50 PM - Deleted
Finally, what your statement ignores is the fact that NYS has captured virtually none of the growth that has occurred in the US over the past 50 years.
January 9, 2014 5:00 PM - petebklyn
but we still have you. and they don't.
January 9, 2014 5:08 PM - Deleted
Yeah, but I'm getting up there Pete. I can't continue to hold the torch for much longer.....
January 9, 2014 5:09 PM - petebklyn
growth of population is certainly going to give you a bigger number for GDP or whatever.
But what about personal income - per capita income/earnings? I would think that would be more important number.
Population total doesn't mean much.
January 9, 2014 5:12 PM - petebklyn
If don't know the answer just eskimo.
January 9, 2014 5:15 PM - pepper
what are you aleutian to, pete?
January 9, 2014 5:34 PM - dibs
Reichenbach hall is VERY German. I'm waiting for the brownshirts to walk in any time
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January 9, 2014 5:35 PM - dibs
german pop music sounds rather, shall we say, military
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January 9, 2014 5:37 PM - dibs
But this is NYC and i just saw my first cute latin busboy. The night is saved
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January 9, 2014 5:37 PM - dibs
I mistook the Aufschnitt Teller cold cut plat as the Auschwitz teller
January 9, 2014 5:41 PM - pepper
How is the beer?
January 9, 2014 5:55 PM - petebklyn
juneau what I'm talking about, pepper
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January 9, 2014 5:56 PM - rf
Upstate NY is the biggest drag on the NYS economy and population.
January 9, 2014 6:49 PM - Deleted
January 9, 2014 6:50 PM - Deleted
From rob

LOL. Can you post this for dave? Some sociology textbook just came in from here the publisher here at work, and it’s Sociology “with a Canadian perspective” which makes it funnier.. Have you ever ever been to The Blue Tortilla Restaurant in bucks county, PA. there’s a picture of it in this on page 80 of this textbook with the following “How authentic do you imagine this mexican restaurant in bucks county, Pennsylvania, is? Would you expect the proprietors to be Mexican? To have lived in Mexico? To have studied Mexican cooking at a US-based culinary arts school? How should authenticity be judged?”
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January 9, 2014 7:08 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Punning without me again! Darn you!

DIBS, I used to own a chunk of a Davis Fund. I was happy with it. Just pondering new funds, but reviewing what I used to own.
January 9, 2014 8:21 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yooo-hoooo! Anybody home? Sheesh! You all better be out having fun!
January 9, 2014 8:22 PM - ilovestoops
what happened to everyone? Hi, cobble!
January 9, 2014 8:24 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Hi stoops! Dunno. Just us chickens...
January 9, 2014 8:33 PM - rf
Everyone must be trying to cross the George Washington Bridge.
January 9, 2014 8:34 PM - Partridge
and a partridge.

I was out. Now I am in. Will be unconscious shortly.
January 9, 2014 8:34 PM - ilovestoops
regarding those tv shows, I watched a few episodes of house of cards and damages but got sick of the back-stabbing, manipulation, and everything. I've really changed as far as what I'm willing to see. have also stopped watching the goriest shows. even the atty sleaze in "good wife" is getting to be too much.
January 9, 2014 8:35 PM - ilovestoops
lp: no more swelling? and did you have to stop taking meds you need?
January 9, 2014 8:43 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm horizontal. Hoping to fall asleep by 10 or so.

I won't watch gore. The backstabbing, manipulation, etc is interesting to me in that it's a study of human behavior.
January 9, 2014 8:47 PM - rf
Stoops, how's your face?
January 9, 2014 8:49 PM - Partridge
No more swelling since the weekend. Switched drug to other.

Face, stitches, pain?
January 9, 2014 8:53 PM - ilovestoops
never any pain. stitches removed but have large red spot/bruise - looks like got over enthusiastic with dramatic colored blush on one cheek! but big lump is gone! I have lots of these little cysts appearing all the time, all over my head, but that one grew huge last year and I just couldn't get used to it. really glad I had this done.
January 9, 2014 8:58 PM - Partridge
Good news. Glad it hasn't been an ordeal.
January 9, 2014 9:07 PM - Deleted
I had a heart ultrasound today. Haven't heard back from the doctor yet. Hopefully good news, he seemed optimistic that there would be nothing abnormal.
January 9, 2014 9:08 PM - ilovestoops
yeah. go to bed now - I'm going to watch tv - haven't seen any in a couple of days.
January 9, 2014 9:16 PM - Deleted
Brandi sits up now!
Edited at January 9, 2014 9:16 PM
January 9, 2014 9:16 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Hope so too, randi. How do you feel?
January 9, 2014 9:17 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
BABY! She's so great!
January 9, 2014 9:21 PM - ilovestoops
that's the cutest pic, randi!
January 9, 2014 9:22 PM - Partridge
Yeah, but can she send a text message?

How are you doing without the wine?
January 9, 2014 9:28 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
LP, they don't start texting until they're at least 1. ; )
Edited at January 9, 2014 9:28 PM
January 9, 2014 9:34 PM - Partridge
Whatta pumpkin!
January 9, 2014 9:39 PM - Partridge
The bidding has gone too high already. I am walking away from the Hexagon of Cat ring.
January 9, 2014 9:40 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere

ok...g'nite! sweet dreams to you all :-)
January 9, 2014 9:42 PM - Partridge
'Night, Snaps.
January 9, 2014 9:42 PM - pepper
That is one precious baby girl, randi!
January 9, 2014 9:45 PM - Partridge
I'm out. Good night, fine people of the OT.
Edited at January 9, 2014 9:45 PM
January 9, 2014 9:55 PM - Deleted
Just saw the Christie interview. He sounds like a lil scared bitch!! Man up. You're undermining your whole image
January 9, 2014 10:40 PM - rf
Lots of stuff he obviously didn't investigate very thoroughly.
January 9, 2014 11:11 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I read what Christie said, but I haven't heard him speak it. I want to believe him, but it's awfully difficult.