Tuesday Open Thread
August 6, 2013 5:17 AM - Cobble B. Hiller

268 comments
August 6, 2013 6:38 AM - dibs
GM. Early to bed and early to rise....
#1
August 6, 2013 6:39 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
then what happened to your 'wise'??? :-)

gm
#2
August 6, 2013 7:13 AM - dibs
Story about python escaping from pet store and falling through roof of apartment upstairs and then strangling two young boys as they sleep in New Brunswick, Canada...really horrific
#3
August 6, 2013 7:15 AM - dibs
Did you have some BUTT ered up corn last night??????
#4
August 6, 2013 7:18 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
nope, no corn. fell asleep for a few hours so i skipped dinner. regretting it this a.m. HONGRY!!!

this bacon on everything craze is going a bit to far....
Edited at August 6, 2013 7:17 AM
#5
August 6, 2013 7:18 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
truly horrific was in queens the other night. preg woman sitting on park bench and tree just fell over and crushed her :-( just awful.
#6
August 6, 2013 7:20 AM - dibs
Heard about that too
#7
August 6, 2013 7:21 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
do you know if the tree was dead/already leaning? i've never heard of a tree falling over for no reason.
#8
August 6, 2013 7:22 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Cripes, those are horrible stories!

GM
#9
August 6, 2013 7:23 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
gm cobbly. horrible indeed.
#10
August 6, 2013 7:24 AM - Deleted
This is why bk so expensive
#11
August 6, 2013 7:26 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
just read that the tree was at least partially uprooted and that particular park has a long-standing problem of falling limbs, etc. i smell a lawsuit.
#12
August 6, 2013 7:27 AM - dibs
Dont post your paycheck on Instagram.....

http://gothamist.com/2013/08/06/top_lacoste_salesman_fired_for_inst.php
#13
August 6, 2013 7:28 AM - Deleted
I smell mother nature just doing her job. Why do tax payers have to pay for her PMS?


#14
August 6, 2013 7:30 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
what special kind of jackass would post their paycheck????
#15
August 6, 2013 7:32 AM - dibs
he was ranting about how he cant support his family here and its like living in a third world country.

I wonder what his college major was.
#16
August 6, 2013 7:33 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
underwater basket weaving? lol, j/k :-)
#17
August 6, 2013 7:33 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
The woman was killed, rob. Be quiet and go drink your coffee.
#18
August 6, 2013 7:39 AM - dibs
51 here now but going up to 80
Edited at August 6, 2013 7:38 AM
#19
August 6, 2013 7:42 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
64 here. quite chilly but at least it's not boiling hot.
#20
August 6, 2013 7:46 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
time to go make the donuts. later losers.
Edited at August 6, 2013 7:46 AM
#21
August 6, 2013 7:52 AM - dibs
Donuts???? Donuts are for the 99%. When are you going to graduate to making cronuts??????
Edited at August 6, 2013 7:53 AM
#22
August 6, 2013 7:53 AM - petebklyn
amazing that corporations can fire you because you let people know how much money you make. Talk about lack of freedom in this country when they control every aspect of your life.
#23
August 6, 2013 7:59 AM - dibs
yeah, too bad most incompetent government union employees cant be fired
Edited at August 6, 2013 7:59 AM
#24
August 6, 2013 8:03 AM - BoerumHillScott
For most people, your employer can fire you for any reason they feel like, with the primary exceptions that you can't be fired for being in a limited number of protecteced classes.
#25
August 6, 2013 8:07 AM - petebklyn
as a govt employee your earnings are public info.

Edited at August 6, 2013 8:07 AM
#26
August 6, 2013 8:11 AM - BoerumHillScott
As a manager in a company without standard pay schedules, I would be pretty pissed if an employee posted their paycheck, although I would not try to have the person fired.
It fucks with morale, could make hiring more difficult, and leads to awkward converations and comparison.
#27
August 6, 2013 8:12 AM - dibs
Big chipmunks here
Edited at August 6, 2013 8:12 AM
#28
August 6, 2013 8:15 AM - BoerumHillScott
On the topic of what college is really about for some parts of the country, the Louisiana State University football team just reinstated a player who pleaded guilty to battery after punching another student outside of a bar. He had previously been convicted of carnal knowledge of a 14 year old minor when he was 18.
#29
August 6, 2013 8:19 AM - dibs
Snappy wants to do unspeakable things to a carnal of corn
#30
August 6, 2013 8:27 AM - petebklyn
shame on her. that is earful.
#31
August 6, 2013 8:30 AM - dibs
She's a shucking asshole for it
#32
August 6, 2013 8:31 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Why did this corn thing pop back up? (Oh, I see, it's DIBS' new chew toy!)
Edited at August 6, 2013 8:33 AM
#33
August 6, 2013 8:35 AM - dibs
yesterday, Cobble. Try and keep up.

I got something for you to chew on...
Edited at August 6, 2013 8:35 AM
#34
August 6, 2013 8:38 AM - petebklyn
she amaizes me sometimes.
#35
August 6, 2013 8:42 AM - Deleted
quote:
The woman was killed, rob. Be quiet and go drink your coffee.

Don't tell me to be quiet.
#36
August 6, 2013 8:44 AM - Arkady
I'm all ears.
#37
August 6, 2013 8:48 AM - petebklyn
the stalker is here
#38
August 6, 2013 8:48 AM - dibs
And, from the stories I've heard, you've benn de-tassled many times
Edited at August 6, 2013 8:48 AM
#39
August 6, 2013 8:50 AM - Arkady
Don't be silky, dibs.
#40
August 6, 2013 9:08 AM - Partridge
Cob is right. Not a kernel of truth in your tree falling comment. Twisted and starchy. Someone should just pop you already.
#41
August 6, 2013 9:29 AM - Deleted
gm
#42
August 6, 2013 9:29 AM - Arkady
chrysler
#43
August 6, 2013 9:31 AM - Deleted
ford
#44
August 6, 2013 9:32 AM - Deleted
One of these days I toyota join these punfests and shock everyone.
#45
August 6, 2013 9:34 AM - Deleted
benson - you auto know better than to join a punfest
#46
August 6, 2013 9:35 AM - Deleted
I love cats!!

^^^^More shock treatment.
#47
August 6, 2013 9:36 AM - BoerumHillScott
Another Washington DC observation: close to zero facial hair to be seen. In fact, pretty much everyone had clean, neatly groomed hair.
#48
August 6, 2013 9:44 AM - Deleted
DC sucks
#49
August 6, 2013 9:52 AM - Deleted
Gm.

DC has good ethnic food though?
Edited at August 6, 2013 9:52 AM
#50
August 6, 2013 9:54 AM - Deleted
When I was in DC a few years ago, I came to appreciate how easy it is to buy a newspaper in NYC. When I was in DC, it took me a half hour to find a newstand or vending machine that sold the Wall St. Journal, and I was staying in the downtown area.
#51
August 6, 2013 9:56 AM - DeLepp
http://curbed.com/archives/2013/08/05/late-diplomat-warren-christophers-beach-house-listed.php

Walked by this last year and wondered how much. Not a large piece of property like those in Montecito but it is one of the few that is on the beach in SB.
#52
August 6, 2013 9:57 AM - DeLepp
Georgetown has to be the whitest place I've ever been on the East Coast. Went to dinner and only non-white was husband.
#53
August 6, 2013 9:58 AM - BoerumHillScott
DC (at least the NW residential areas I spent my non-tourist time in) has many of the trappings of "Brownstone Brooklyn," including tons of restaurants of all shapes and sizes.

I think one of the reasons I am fascinated by the differences is because there were so many similarities. On a number of levels, it felt like I had not left my neighborhood.

I have no plans on moving, but I could probably be quite happy there, although some things donít seem quite right.

#54
August 6, 2013 10:10 AM - Partridge
DeLepp, I was looking at this one last night in Sea Gate after I exhausted my searching in Belle Harbor/Rockaways. Photos are terrible, but I think the potential is clear.

http://www.trulia.com/property/3121078998-5114-Ocean-View-Ave-Brooklyn-NY-11224#photo-1
#55
August 6, 2013 10:19 AM - dibs
Watch out, dh
Edited at August 6, 2013 10:18 AM
#56
August 6, 2013 10:23 AM - Deleted
is that a machete on the table?
#57
August 6, 2013 10:30 AM - DeLepp
lp. I always wonder why seagate not more popular. Some gorgeous homes there. Was at a party in a 1905 colonial on the water a few years back, the fire places were enormous.
#58
August 6, 2013 10:32 AM - DeLepp
lp, nice property and only $1K for property taxes. Wonder if lower due to association fees.
#59
August 6, 2013 10:33 AM - Partridge
"why seagate not more popular."

PJ's.
Edited at August 6, 2013 10:33 AM
#60
August 6, 2013 10:37 AM - Deleted
da fuq is seagate?
#61
August 6, 2013 10:42 AM - Partridge
Another. Sad.
http://www.trulia.com/property/3113616342-3840-Atlantic-Ave-Brooklyn-NY-11224


#62
August 6, 2013 10:52 AM - BoerumHillScott
Seagate seems so, so far removed from everything.
It seems ideal for people who can drive to professional jobs in Brooklyn.

How long would it take to get to a job in Manhattan on a normal workday?
#63
August 6, 2013 10:55 AM - Deleted
Sea Gate is a gated community at the western end of Coney Island.
#64
August 6, 2013 11:03 AM - Partridge
It really isn't far at all, Scott. Short bus ride to Stillwell for the train.

By car, 5 minute drive to belt parkway. Cropsey ave. From there, about 8-10 miles to Atlantic Avenue.
#65
August 6, 2013 11:13 AM - BoerumHillScott
Google says 1:22 to Union Square via bus/subway or 1:07 to Wall Street via express bus.
Isn't traffic on the BQE and Battery Tunnel horrible in the mornings?

Edited at August 6, 2013 11:13 AM
#66
August 6, 2013 11:17 AM - Partridge
The Sandy factor. 400K, 2 family, oceanfront property, in the city, $862. annual taxes, $3K, community fee, garage and all the street parking you could dream of, gated community, shuttle to train, express bus to city. I don't know the plans for rebuilding the beaches there. Anyone know if the state is on it?
#67
August 6, 2013 11:20 AM - BoerumHillScott
I guess it's nice if people really love the idea of living on the beach that much, but for the commute time why not live in a real suburb, rather than some odd hybrid?
#68
August 6, 2013 11:21 AM - Partridge
Yes, the Gowanus Expressway has been under construction for 25 years. They re-build and rip it out overandover again. Express bus has HOV lane.
#69
August 6, 2013 11:23 AM - Deleted
exactly scott..... pick up something in long beach.
#70
August 6, 2013 11:38 AM - Partridge
"a real suburb"

What/where is that? They are so much further away.

Living in Bay Ridge/Dyker Heights most of my life, a one hour commute was normal. I started doing it at 14 for high school. Most everyone living in the city has a one hour commute. Say, Flushing to Wall Street, Flatbush to W57th St, Staten Island to lower Broadway. It really is just the handful of people that live in the Downtown Brooklyn/Brownstone areas that can get most anywhere in under an hour. The rest of us, who have lived here all of our lives, we drive, we go places pretty easily and don't think about commute times the way newcomers do. We are not green, we bike for pleasure - not transportation, we love running to different parts of the city for there special offerings. Sheepshead Bay and City Island for raw bars, Canarsie and Staten Island for nurseries, Flushing Meadow for tennis, Riis Park and Rockaways for beaches.
#71
August 6, 2013 11:41 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
is that a pic of seagate ridgie?
#72
August 6, 2013 11:45 AM - Deleted
There is a great Russian banya in Seagate. Mermaid spa.
#73
August 6, 2013 11:49 AM - Partridge
No, Snaps. Just a generic "suburbia" photo.


Edited at August 6, 2013 11:49 AM
#74
August 6, 2013 11:52 AM - Deleted
LP, I'm pretty sure 'newcomers' to the city also enjoy all it has to offer. Gotta love the self righteous new Yawker attitude. Derp!
Edited at August 6, 2013 11:52 AM
#75
August 6, 2013 11:52 AM - Deleted
I am toying with the idea of buying a shack in the Rockaways. Rockaways because then I don't have to deal with hellish trips to Jersey Shore of LI beaches. Shack because if something happens to it, I don't care.
#76
August 6, 2013 11:53 AM - Deleted
Better raw bars in Williamsburg than city island anyway.
#77
August 6, 2013 12:00 PM - BoerumHillScott
From a bit of playing on Google maps, Seagate commutes seem to be at least 20 minutes longer than Bay Ridge or Dyker Heights, although they are similar to outer regions of Sheepshead Bay or Bergen Beach.

I will admit I have not spent any time in Seagate, but it seems to be a lot different from the other neighborhoods you mention Ė I fully understand the appeal of those, although I donít think they are for me.
From what I can tell, Seagate has close to no commercial property in the neighborhood itself, which is different from just about any other neighborhood in NYC.

Right outside of the neighborhood itself, you have some of the poorer areas of Coney Island, once again with limited quality retail, which I image leads to a typical suburban situation where all the non-work commute trips are made by car.

For families where things like lot size, school districts, and convenient shopping means more than a beach front location, and where at least one person works in Manhattan, it seems like either other Brooklyn neighborhoods or traditional suburbs offer a better overall value.

Just my take and not a judgment on anyone who lives or would want to live in Seagate.

#78
August 6, 2013 12:01 PM - Partridge
I'm not saying that newcomers don't use the city for all it had to offer, I'm saying that many natives drive which makes places faster to get to. Public transportation in a congested city with millions of stops makes for a slow go.

Find me one next door to yours, Benson. We can share lounge chairs and towels.
#79
August 6, 2013 12:04 PM - Partridge
Exactly correct, Scott. People I knew there drove everywhere. No walking unless on beach. Certainly a suburban approach.
#80
August 6, 2013 12:10 PM - BoerumHillScott
Interesting statistics: according to the 2010 Census, 61% of workers in Kings County took public transport to get to work, and 19% drove alone.
Average commute time: 42 minutes, which happens to be almost exactly how long it takes me to get to work in NJ.

54% of households have no car, and 35% have 1 (National numbers: 8%, 33%)
Edited at August 6, 2013 12:10 PM
#81
August 6, 2013 12:36 PM - rf
We just toured U. of Rochester. We both really liked it.
#82
August 6, 2013 12:43 PM - BoerumHillScott
Exciting times, RF. How would you rate the trip overall?
#83
August 6, 2013 12:43 PM - petebklyn
hmmm, partridge looking to shack up with benson?
#84
August 6, 2013 12:45 PM - petebklyn
I have 1 niece and 2 nephews who graduated from Univ of Rochester. One of the nephews also received his masters there.
I've never been to Rochester.
#85
August 6, 2013 12:54 PM - MontroseMorris
I've been to Rochester once, when I was in high school. I don't remember much about it. It used to have money, with Eastman Kodak, but not anymore. There's some great architecture there.
#86
August 6, 2013 1:04 PM - Arkady
RIT isn't as good as it was when it got a lot of Kodak support.
#87
August 6, 2013 1:20 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
waaaaah....tummy ache :-( nommed too many veggies at lunch. yummy, but killing me now. brocc, spinach, string beans, salad.
#88
August 6, 2013 1:24 PM - Deleted
lots of jackasses in that saratoga park thread over there.
#89
August 6, 2013 1:25 PM - Deleted
lol pwned

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/video-man-proposes-baseball-game-article-1.1418580?localLinksEnabled=false
#90
August 6, 2013 1:32 PM - Deleted
Partridge is hitting on one of the biggest differences between the older, native Brooklynites (or, at least from the white sections in Southern Brooklyn) and Brownstone Brooklyn. When I was growing up in Gravesend, I didn't know a single family that didn't have a car. You used a car for everything, except commuting into Manhattan - for that you took the subway. It was just the way it was. In that regard, areas like Gravesend are kind of a hybrid between the suburbs and the city. It certainly has the density of a city, but shopping and many other activities are car-dependent. It was for this reason that a lot of the folks I grew up with decided to decamp for Jersey - they figured that as long as you are going to be car-dependent, might as well buy a house with plenty of space for parking.
Edited at August 6, 2013 1:32 PM
#91
August 6, 2013 1:37 PM - Arkady
DC was very car-dependent before the Metro but the trollies went everywhere. We had 3 cars - grandfather, grandmother & mother - but most neighbors didn't have any.
#92
August 6, 2013 1:40 PM - Deleted
I get why people in Queens and Southern Brooklyn are car-dependent. I don't understand why someone who lives in walkable neighborhoods in Brooklyn close to retail and transport are so car dependent. By reading Brownstoner you'd think everyone in Brownstone Brooklyn has a car parked on the street. I don't get it.
#93
August 6, 2013 1:42 PM - Biff Champion
OMFG, these people on a New York Rangers blog I go on are actually talking about meeting up in person for drinks. LOSERS!!!!

http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2013/8/4/4587490/would-you-guys-come-to-a-meet-up
#94
August 6, 2013 1:46 PM - Arkady
dh - Car is great for renovation projects - HD, Lowe's, etc. which aren't on easy public transit. Also for runs to CostCo & Terminal Mkt.
#95
August 6, 2013 1:47 PM - Biff Champion
Bowling Fail...

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/sports/2013/08/06/newday-bowling-perfect-score-mishap.cnn.html
#96
August 6, 2013 1:54 PM - BoerumHillScott
It will be interesting to see the long term impact of Zipcar and similar systems in Brownstone Brooklyn that take much of the pain out of renting a car.
Edited at August 6, 2013 1:54 PM
#97
August 6, 2013 1:56 PM - Biff Champion
Just when I thought my thread killing skillz were as sharp as ever...
#98
August 6, 2013 2:00 PM - BoerumHillScott
Another DC observation: tons of people on bikes, and they mostly ride on the sidewalks where there are not dedicated lanes. Apparently, it is not illegal there. It was not a big issue, since most of the sidewalks were not crowded.
Around 1/4 of the bikes were bikeshares. They have the exact same system there as Citibike, except the bikes are red and donít have a single corporate sponsor.

Edited at August 6, 2013 2:00 PM
#99
August 6, 2013 2:00 PM - DeLepp
I average about $300/month for zipcar, still less than it would cost to park free car in garage and insure. Not sure where my tipping point would be in purchasing an auto, probably $500.
August 6, 2013 2:00 PM - Deleted
don't need corporate sponsors in dc - they have the gov't on lock
August 6, 2013 2:08 PM - dibs
Not sure when muni bond funds are going to bootom, DeLepp, but we must be getting close.

Was there some new Detroit news today???
August 6, 2013 2:17 PM - DeLepp
dibs, Michigan AG agreed with public sector unions that their benefits shouldn't be cut and that all other creditors and remaining taxpayers should take the hit.
August 6, 2013 2:20 PM - dibs
In reality, given what has been the speculation, that would dissuade municipalities from declaring bankruptcy I would think and should be + for muni bonds.

No, it doesn't address their pension issues but they now can't just decide on filing for bankruptcy to get rid of them.
Edited at August 6, 2013 2:20 PM
August 6, 2013 2:25 PM - petebklyn
I wouldn't say car dependent.....car is luxury and since demographic of brownstone brooklyn is growing more affluent there are more cars and a luxury they can afford. Some may believe zip car or rentals and cabs more convenient but that is lifestyle choice.

August 6, 2013 2:26 PM - dibs
And, of course, landlords need a car to get to their weekend homes.
Edited at August 6, 2013 2:26 PM
August 6, 2013 2:28 PM - DeLepp
dibs, just his opinion so far but still big uncertainty for market. A lot of money has been pulled from muni funds in the last 2 months. Plus Illinois/Chicago has been getting lots of press concerning the woefulll underfunding of their pensions.
August 6, 2013 2:33 PM - petebklyn
I didn't get a car until I first had a place upstate -- a condo in NewPaltz 20 years ago. If I didnt go away on wkends I wouldn't bother with one now.
When I first had it ...It was so easy parking here on my block. That has changed dramatically.
August 6, 2013 2:33 PM - dibs
Yes, it's up to the courts, not the AG's opinion. Still a lot of uncertainty which the market never likes, despit how safe the majority of the bonds are.
August 6, 2013 2:34 PM - Biff Champion
I had a condo in New Schmaltz years ago.
Edited at August 6, 2013 2:34 PM
August 6, 2013 2:37 PM - petebklyn
but you still have the same schtick now.
August 6, 2013 2:38 PM - petebklyn
time to go move my bike for alternate side parking.
August 6, 2013 2:40 PM - Deleted
Pete;

Do you run your bike through the car wash every once in a while too?
August 6, 2013 2:41 PM - MontroseMorris
Dibs, you linked to an article yesterday or over the weekend about Detroit selling off their art treasures, because their art museum is city owned. They have among their treasures, Van Gogh's self portrait, which is worth millions. There is much debate as to whether or not they should sell.

In my opinion, they most certainly should NOT. If they sell, it's not like the money will go to fund police, or help EMS get out faster, or do anything for the people who need the city's help the most. Because they are bankrupt, the money will go to creditors, like bondholders, banks and securities firms. In the end, Detroit will have no important art for when the city comes back, which it will in some way, and in the short term, will be no better off. The only people who will benefit are rich art patrons, and wealthy people in the money business. The city of Detroit loses, and has nothing left for the future, or even for future bargaining. Figures.
August 6, 2013 2:49 PM - dibs
i think if it saved the pensions it would be considered worth it.

i dont know all the ins and outs of bankruptcy law so dont know if the creditors could force it.
August 6, 2013 2:52 PM - Deleted
ins and outs - lulz
August 6, 2013 2:52 PM - Deleted
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
August 6, 2013 2:56 PM - dibs
^^^^^^Easily amused and easily bored.
Edited at August 6, 2013 2:56 PM
August 6, 2013 2:57 PM - Deleted
DIBS;

Democrats demand bread and circuses.
August 6, 2013 3:08 PM - MontroseMorris
Republicans demand blood and tears.
August 6, 2013 3:09 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Snappy secretly owns a photo shop in London:
August 6, 2013 3:33 PM - Deleted
Bread and circuses?
August 6, 2013 3:40 PM - Arkady
6 - Are you in Shepherd's Bush? I sent that to Snaps 2 years ago when I was there.
August 6, 2013 3:45 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Close, Arkady - it's right by Notting Hill Gate.
August 6, 2013 4:07 PM - Deleted
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses
Edited at August 6, 2013 4:07 PM
August 6, 2013 4:09 PM - Deleted
ah ha! benson dishin out knowledge
August 6, 2013 4:14 PM - dibs
pearls of wisdom, dh
August 6, 2013 4:21 PM - Deleted
ah yes, how could i forget!
August 6, 2013 4:25 PM - Deleted
powerball is 400 million - and my gretsch penthouse is in contract :(
August 6, 2013 4:34 PM - dibs
I'll be buying a ticket up here in NH tomorrow. i'll have a better chance of winning since it will think I 'm some backwoods white trash up here
Edited at August 6, 2013 4:36 PM
August 6, 2013 4:36 PM - Deleted
if you win powerball i think that will serve as concrete evidence god does not exist.
August 6, 2013 4:38 PM - dibs
I'd give you $100,000 as I'm always doing god's work
August 6, 2013 4:39 PM - Deleted
that would probably be enough to get me pissed off on the tax i'd be paying on it!
August 6, 2013 4:42 PM - Deleted
awesome

http://eater.com/archives/2013/08/06/taco-bell-to-unleash-waffle-tacos-at-100-stores-this-week.php
August 6, 2013 4:45 PM - dibs
If it's a gift, I pay the tax on it.

Not much of an accountant are you???
August 6, 2013 4:46 PM - Deleted
Lotteries = circuses.

You're welcome.
August 6, 2013 4:47 PM - Deleted
not a tax accountant, at least for anyone gifting significant amounts of money (sorry rob)
August 6, 2013 4:50 PM - dibs
Yes, benson, a way to tax the poor without them even knowing it.
August 6, 2013 4:55 PM - Deleted
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
August 6, 2013 4:55 PM - rf
Back in Syracuse to have dinner with a friend. Kid wouldn't even do the tour at SUNY Environmental and Forestry--small State U. college that probably would have accepted her today!

So far she likes:
1. Binghamton
2. U. of Rochester
3. RIT
4. Syracuse
(She really liked Cornell too but it's extremely unlikely that she'd get in.)

RIT has new money for sure. They seemed to be the most outcome-oriented school we've seen--always keeping their eye on where their grads will wind up, whether into a job (zillions of coops and internships) or grad school that will lead to a job. But I think U. of Rochester gives better financial aid so we'll have to see. U. of R. is definitely more ivory-tower. I can manage to pay for the balance of the cost of Binghamton after the federal and state aid that she'll get because we are poor, plus our 529 college savings account courtesy of Grandpa.

Tomorrow SUNY College at Oneonta, a safety school (as long as she gets out of the car), Wednesday Renssalaer Polytech in Troy, next day Worcester (MA) Polytech, and then she goes to make the bucks babysitting in MA and I go home to take Grandpa food shopping.

The trip has been fine. She's driven almost all the time but was smart enough to know when to stop last night when she was getting too tired on the Thruway, and we had only one terrible fight, not bad for over 5 days together except for the one day at RPI. We had a lovely visit with Goatboy and fiancee and they are wonderful hosts. I am sure she would have felt better about U. of Buffalo if they were staying there for sure--Goatboy's not so sure about whether it's time for a new career move, as he posted here recently.

We finally hit a decent motel. Doing laundry right now and kid is in the pool. Free cocktails (2) tonight courtesy of the manager!
August 6, 2013 4:59 PM - DeLepp
Why isn't kid doing laundry and you in the pool?
Edited at August 6, 2013 4:59 PM
August 6, 2013 5:00 PM - Deleted
party on, RF
August 6, 2013 5:00 PM - Deleted
delepp - because cranky teenagers
August 6, 2013 5:03 PM - rf
It's ok. I'm the one who didn't pack enough to last the whole week.
August 6, 2013 5:03 PM - petebklyn
just do the laundry in the pool. tell them we do that in brooklyn.
August 6, 2013 5:09 PM - dibs
visions of rf's fine washables just ruined my dinner
August 6, 2013 5:14 PM - Deleted
with proper place settings??
August 6, 2013 5:18 PM - dibs
No, informal dinner here in the kitchen....pork chops, fettucini, sugar snap peas and applesauce
Edited at August 6, 2013 5:44 PM
August 6, 2013 5:22 PM - Partridge
lol @ "laundry in the pool".

Smile faded @ "ruined my dinner". Consider perhaps, re-thinking the fettuccine applesauce combo.
August 6, 2013 5:26 PM - rf
That's ok, Partridge, Dave posts plenty of stuff to ruin people's dinner. I won't waste any worries on him!
August 6, 2013 5:35 PM - MontroseMorris
We're looking forward to seeing you tomorrow, RF. You might want to check out Russell Sage College while you're here. It's downtown, very small, but has great programs. It's worth a drive-by, at least.

I have fond memories of SUNY Oneonta. When I was in high school, I took some classes there through a Saturday program they had for high school students. Your daughter will hate Oneonta. Everyone from NYC does.
August 6, 2013 5:35 PM - DeLepp
^^^leaving now as I fear the sausage photos will be posted which will ruin my dinner.
Edited at August 6, 2013 5:35 PM
August 6, 2013 5:42 PM - dibs
thick cut pork chops...$1.98 per pound!!!!!!
August 6, 2013 5:46 PM - rf
MM, my kid has made it clear that she's not interested in tiny college. In general she says she wants a college bigger than Brooklyn Tech which is up to 5500 students. I slipped in U. of R. (less than 4000 but at least it's 51-49 M-F--most schools except the ones with big engineering and business schools tilt female by a big number) and I'm glad I did, since she liked it. She needs some safety schools. Oneonta seems to have an interesting, although small, bio dept. so we'll see. Did I say that she wouldn't even go on the tour at SUNY Environmental? It's on the Syracuse U. campus, right across the street from the Carrier Stadium. But the bio programs they have are not anything near what she wants to study.

Can you text or email me your address? I will text when we leave Oneonta (early afternoon I think) and let you know what the GPS says.
August 6, 2013 5:47 PM - rf
DeLepp, the sausages are always in response to a certain photo.
Edited at August 6, 2013 5:47 PM
August 6, 2013 5:59 PM - Arkady
Rant. Why can't 'they' put up signs about road resurfacing before alt. side is over? Whole street has to shuffle again when it could've been avoided & some people will not have seen the signs by Thursday & will be towed. STOOOPID!!!
August 6, 2013 6:17 PM - Deleted
I did some research today on my insurance and what my plan covers, etc. Found out that I'm covered for a hearing aid up to 1500 dollars every three years. The lower end hearing aid they were showing me when I was at the ENT and the audiologist is 1500 dollars exactly. I had no idea my insurance covered this 100% after the deductible is met, which it's met. The thing is our insurance is over August 31st. Do you think there is still time for me to be able to get a hearing aid by august 31st? I'm going to email and call my doctor tomorrow. If I wait until September 1st, we start back up with another near 3000 dollar deductible.. If I can get it by September 1st then it will be 100% covered. All those crazy doctors bills from the last 2 months that I was freaked out about all cleared itself up. I paid most of them with the money on my HSA card and for some reason met the deductible and everything after that was covered 100 percent at least. Right now i'd rather get the hearing aid since it will be covered, but surgery would be covered too, but i'd have to get it before September 1st and I wouldn't be able to swim so I don't really want to do that.

August 6, 2013 6:29 PM - dibs
I didnt know there was somethi wrong with your hearing.
Edited at August 6, 2013 6:29 PM
August 6, 2013 6:40 PM - Arkady
I think you could do it, rob. But I'd still consider the surgery since they said it would have an effect on your good ear if you don't.
August 6, 2013 6:53 PM - rf
Rob, you probably could do it by 9/1.
Edited at August 6, 2013 6:53 PM
August 6, 2013 6:56 PM - rf
Whoa, the mall in Syracuse puts the one in Buffalo to shame! Gocarts! Climbing thing for grownups!
Edited at August 6, 2013 6:56 PM
August 6, 2013 7:00 PM - MontroseMorris
Will do RF. If you take I 88 to I 90, getting off near Albany, and then 787 to Troy, I'm guessing a bit over an hour and an a half to get here.
Edited at August 6, 2013 7:01 PM
August 6, 2013 7:36 PM - rf
Broad Decline in Obesity Rate Seen in Poor Young Children
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/health/broad-decline-in-obesity-rate-seen-in-poor-young-children.html

THANKS OBAMA!
August 6, 2013 7:42 PM - dibs
^^^Yeah, his lack of an economic policy is starving them

HLLUVA JOB OBAMA
August 6, 2013 7:53 PM - pepper
Or maybe it's the First Lady's commie pinko healthy eating and exercise initiatives...
August 6, 2013 8:01 PM - petebklyn
that is all she cares about is poor young children. How about the rich ones?
Edited at August 6, 2013 8:01 PM
August 6, 2013 8:03 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yeah, thanks, Michelle! She's fantastic.

GE
August 6, 2013 8:07 PM - pepper
GE
August 6, 2013 8:11 PM - Partridge
Howdy, folks!
August 6, 2013 8:16 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Hey hey, it's Mean Girl's Social Hour! ; )
August 6, 2013 8:19 PM - pepper
Hiya, Part...
August 6, 2013 8:20 PM - Partridge
Mean Girls plus Pete. DH and Randi, come join The LifeStyle edition of the OT.
August 6, 2013 8:20 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Lovely evening out, walked from work down to Union Square, and then back up to 23rd Street to meet BnH at the express bus stop.
August 6, 2013 8:22 PM - pepper
The weather has been amazing these last few days...
August 6, 2013 8:25 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Sorry, that's all I got for ya. ; ) not mean, I'll grant you, but who has the energy at this hour. : P
August 6, 2013 8:26 PM - Partridge
Love, love the weather! Doggy happy, mommy happy.

Speaking of mommies, I wonder if The Baby still has the hiccups.
August 6, 2013 8:28 PM - pepper
So, earlier, a guy smoking a joint asked me for a cigarette. I started to get one for him, and then he asked if they were Newports. When I said no, they're Merits, he walked away... oh, well.
August 6, 2013 8:30 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
That is one cute baby the randis have there. Almost makes me wish I'd remembered to have one. ; )
Edited at August 6, 2013 8:30 PM
August 6, 2013 8:30 PM - Partridge
I wonder if Jeopardy! airs in NH. How does Dave spend his evenings there after the fettuccine and applesauce?
Edited at August 6, 2013 8:30 PM
August 6, 2013 8:32 PM - Partridge
Ooops! I guess my post was too mean and got edited.
August 6, 2013 8:33 PM - pepper
Yeah, she is adorable...
Edited at August 6, 2013 8:33 PM
August 6, 2013 8:33 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Wow, picky picky picky! But most smokers are, we'd rather fight than switch. : P
August 6, 2013 8:33 PM - pepper
What did it say?
August 6, 2013 8:35 PM - Partridge
She is super cutie. Perhaps the cutest baby ever! When I was little, I was enthralled with Japanese women. When people would ask me what I wanted to be when I grew up I responded, "A Japanese girl." Randette is lucky!
August 6, 2013 8:35 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
'lo ladies.
August 6, 2013 8:36 PM - Deleted
quote:
I started to get one for him, and then he asked if they were Newports. When I said no, they're Merits, he walked away...

LOL. Sometimes when people bum a cigarette from me, when they find out they are Newports they turn into BFF's and are SO happy. I had no idea that 80% of African-American smokers smoke newports. I mean I KNEW newports are favored by them (like American Spirits are favored by moonfaces), but didn't know it was 80%. I think I read this in AM new York really recently.

Arkady, I don't recall my doctor or me saying my other ear would be affected in any way. With what I have, it's normally in both ears, but I don't have any bone build up in my left ear, the damage is only in my right. A hearing aid or the surgery would work for me, but there is risk with the surgery . I could always get the surgery later. If my insurance is paying for a hearing aid, might as well take it. If anything I could always sell it on craigslist if I don't like it.



August 6, 2013 8:36 PM - Partridge
Nope, not telling. The OT gods deemed it inappropriate. Poof, gone.
August 6, 2013 8:39 PM - Deleted
"What did it say?"

Partridge declared her love for me.
August 6, 2013 8:40 PM - DeLepp
watching Rebecca, full of mean girls.
August 6, 2013 8:40 PM - pepper
Yeah, that must have been it, benson... ;o)
August 6, 2013 8:41 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
hitchcock's rebecca? love that!
August 6, 2013 8:41 PM - pepper
DeLepp likes Mean Girls...
August 6, 2013 8:41 PM - Deleted
This weather is very nice. Haha, speaking of Japanese ladies the speaker tonight at the meeting I went to was Japanese and was discussing going to an AA meeting in japan. I think that's all I heard. She was very hard to understand (mostly because I could barely hear her I guess) but I can sorta kinda lip read but then people will move their greasy heads and I can't see the speakers' lips.

Next week I'm getting two African Dwarf Frogs named Wario and Waluigi. I'm kind of excited.


August 6, 2013 8:42 PM - Partridge
Well, now that I admitted that I want to shack up with you, perhaps I should go all the way.
August 6, 2013 8:44 PM - Deleted
Mean Girls is not an appropriate descriptor for the specific group on here people refer to as mean girls btw. Actual mean girls are very different. I truly think benson's "hall monitors" moniker is more fitting. BUt doesn't that doesn't particularly matter much. perhaps "warsh women" lol.

August 6, 2013 8:44 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Rebecca was one of my mother's favorite movies, along with the Thirty Nine Steps, and Casablanca.
Edited at August 6, 2013 8:44 PM
August 6, 2013 8:44 PM - Deleted
Rockaways, here we come!

OK, that's it for me. Have fun with the OT Lady's Social Hour.
August 6, 2013 8:44 PM - DeLepp
yep snaps, dame Judith Anderson is chilling.
August 6, 2013 8:46 PM - Partridge
Night beach buddy.
August 6, 2013 8:46 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
great movie. sometimes i do a hitchcock weekend and break out all my dvds and vhs tapes and have a ball :-)
August 6, 2013 8:47 PM - petebklyn
they (the gov't) is thinking of banning menthol in cigarettes. days of newports and the like could be over.
August 6, 2013 8:51 PM - Legion
Good Evening.

Rebecca is a great film DeLepp.
Alfred Hitchcock.
I always confuse it with another great movie, Laura with Gene Tierney.
Both excellent films although I think Laura has a bit of an edgein my book, as a true Film Noir.
Edited at August 6, 2013 8:51 PM
August 6, 2013 8:51 PM - Partridge
Fave.
August 6, 2013 8:51 PM - Deleted
That would be so fucking annoying if they ban menthol. The government needs to stop being such a nanny fuckface. You can take regular cigarettes tho and put a drop of mint breath drops in the filter and it's like a menthol. Why do people have to get their rights infringed upon because so many poor people are stupid and make bad choices in life? And YES smoking is a bad choice, but it's really only because so many poor people do it that the government thinks they need to nanny us. Just like soda.

August 6, 2013 8:52 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
laura is a great flick too
August 6, 2013 8:53 PM - DeLepp
pep, since I've been described as a "shadow of an eclipse" mgs make me look good.
August 6, 2013 8:53 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
i think the acting in 'strangers on a train' is among the best i've ever seen. amazing.
August 6, 2013 8:54 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
shadow of an eclipse???
August 6, 2013 8:54 PM - DeLepp
dame Judith Anderson was in Laura as well.
August 6, 2013 8:55 PM - petebklyn
they'd be less poor if didn't buy the cigarettes.
August 6, 2013 8:56 PM - Partridge
Hey, Legion. We've been speaking about beach communities without you for the past 2 days. Where you been?
August 6, 2013 8:57 PM - petebklyn
Judith Anderson is enough of a name. Drop the bogus royalty and their pretentious honorifics.
August 6, 2013 8:58 PM - petebklyn
drat drat drat -- that rental in bermuda is not available.
tomorrow I will have to see if the other one is still open.
August 6, 2013 8:58 PM - Donatella
Have to buy some powerball tickets. I understand the odds are 1 in 178 million.
August 6, 2013 8:59 PM - DeLepp
ok dame pete, patron saint of non-billboard plastered poles.
August 6, 2013 8:59 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
aw, sir pete, don't be mad at the dame ;-)
August 6, 2013 9:00 PM - Deleted
quote:
they'd be less poor if didn't buy the cigarettes.

That's debateably actually. Poor people have very poor impulse control, and if they didn't waste their money on cigarettes they would waste it on something else equally as stupid. Trust me on this, I grew up seeing this first hand and to some extent still live with that residual guilt. And wtf are the warsh tards talking about right now?


August 6, 2013 9:01 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
"patron saint of non-billboard plastered poles" has a nice ring to it!
August 6, 2013 9:02 PM - petebklyn
lot of plastered poles in greenpoint
August 6, 2013 9:03 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
did you rip them down as a community service?
August 6, 2013 9:03 PM - Partridge
Too bad, Pete. It is still a ways off. You should still have plenty of options.
Edited at August 6, 2013 9:03 PM
August 6, 2013 9:04 PM - Partridge
I ripped a bunch down just tonight.
August 6, 2013 9:05 PM - Legion
Beach communities partridge?
I love beach communities!
Edited at August 6, 2013 9:05 PM
August 6, 2013 9:06 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
you caught pete's disease, ridgie?
Edited at August 6, 2013 9:06 PM
August 6, 2013 9:06 PM - Partridge
I know you do. You are our very own beach community expert.
August 6, 2013 9:08 PM - Partridge
I might have given it to Pete. I go way back in my anti-litter brigade.

Lost cat flyer have full immunity.
August 6, 2013 9:09 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
well, at least the kitties are safe! what about lost pooches?
August 6, 2013 9:17 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
lol! i can understand that thought.
August 6, 2013 9:17 PM - Partridge
I certainly would allow those as well. Rare, though.

Biggest offenders by me are stoop sales. I consider them a mild form of competition. Will NOT allow those any where near my store. No one is going to tempt my customers away. Take that!
August 6, 2013 9:19 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
i wish i could get those fools who put flyers and menus and cards on my door to cut that shit out. no matter what i put up, they don't stop.
Edited at August 6, 2013 9:18 PM
August 6, 2013 9:27 PM - Partridge
Have you used the official NYC sign?
Do not place unsolicited ...
August 6, 2013 9:30 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
yep, and it keeps disappearing.
August 6, 2013 9:33 PM - Arkady
Those ugly, red official notices seem to work but I like getting fliers.
rob - I'd swear you told us that if you didn't get the one ear treated the other one would go the same way.

Edited at August 6, 2013 9:33 PM
August 6, 2013 9:34 PM - Arkady
And I aDORE those dwarf African frogs! But the ones I had many years ago died.
August 6, 2013 9:35 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
didn't work for me :-( and what's uglier is a bunch of ads and whatnot hanging off my damn door!
August 6, 2013 9:39 PM - petebklyn
some blocks you walk down seems almost everyone has those no menu things. especially in park slope.
I think they are pretty ugly.
Doesn't bother me to get them but I rarely do...and I throw them out anyway.

August 6, 2013 9:41 PM - pepper
rob's room is going to end up a menagerie!
August 6, 2013 9:41 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
if there were just an occasional ad, i probably wouldn't get so pissed, but i wind up with 3 or for different ads/cards/whatever and each co. leaves like 10 of them, leaving me with a big pile to get rid of. annoying and unsightly.
August 6, 2013 9:43 PM - petebklyn
I suppose I would be annoyed too. Although I dont get annoyed as easily as you and the others here.
But I don't get many.....maybe because you have to open a gate to get to entrance.
August 6, 2013 9:43 PM - Arkady
My block is so plastered w/ the red signs that I don't get many menus or things any more - mainly just plastic bag of grocery specials on Thursdays.
Edited at August 6, 2013 9:43 PM
August 6, 2013 9:44 PM - petebklyn
I have trouble getting my NYTimes delivered.
August 6, 2013 9:45 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
wish i had a gate! maybe that's the key.
Edited at August 6, 2013 9:45 PM
August 6, 2013 9:46 PM - petebklyn
this place looks pretty good to me although more than I wanted to spend.
http://greenbankbermuda.com/about/index.html
August 6, 2013 9:47 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
arkady, feel free to walk by my place each day. menus, cards, coupons, you name it i get it in sets of 10. take all ya want!
August 6, 2013 9:49 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
hmmmm...that one doesn't seem as cozy/homey, pete. looks nice, but it's missing something.
August 6, 2013 9:49 PM - Arkady
No, Snaps; part of the game is that it has to be random.
I'm suddenly lusting for watermelon...
August 6, 2013 9:49 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm not feeling that one, Pete.
Edited at August 6, 2013 9:49 PM
August 6, 2013 9:50 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
what game? what has to be random?
August 6, 2013 9:51 PM - Arkady
The fliers. You can't go get them, they have to come to you.
August 6, 2013 9:52 PM - Partridge
Bad web site, bad photos. No go.
August 6, 2013 9:52 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ah, well if it's a game, i'm winning. wish i weren't though.
August 6, 2013 9:53 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
it's unanimous, uncle pete. we refuse to stay there. find us someplace better. oh, and find somethin' else for you and lesbi, too ;-)
August 6, 2013 9:54 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
The photos look to me like that's the best it has to offer, and that they're trying not to show you how it actually is, and will be disappointed.
August 6, 2013 9:54 PM - pepper
Despite being on The Avenue, all we seem to get are the grocery flyers, which I nearly trip over some mornings, but when I come home, they are gone. I guess someone from the restaurant takes care of them. Now, if they would only water the plants...
August 6, 2013 9:55 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Snort! Yeah, Pete, can't your retirement funds find someplace nicer for us to stay?! ; )
Edited at August 6, 2013 9:55 PM
August 6, 2013 9:56 PM - pepper
What are your dates, pete? Maybe we can group search...

I agree, the other 2 places were better than tonight's...
August 6, 2013 10:00 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ok...you all keep hunting for something up to our standards over in bermuda. just lemme know when to be at the airport :-)

nitey night everyone. sweet dreams to you all!
August 6, 2013 10:01 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Remind me, when are we going to Bermuda?
August 6, 2013 10:05 PM - Deleted
Arkady, the doctor said if I don't get the surgery that the ear hearing in that ear will progressively get worse, so surgery in the long run is better than a hearing aid, tho they seemed very hearing aid as well. The other ear is definitely fine according to them. perhaps I wrote it wrong, it was like a month ago, but I looked over the notes I took from when I was at the doctor and the audiologist.
August 6, 2013 10:05 PM - petebklyn
you people are such snobs. tripadvisor has all good comments. very close to house I did stay at so views(hamilton harbor) would be nostalgic for me.
August 6, 2013 10:05 PM - Deleted
Also, I should probably get a second opinion before getting the surgery, still have the persons name you sent me. At least with the hearing aid it won't matter too much to have to get a second opinion. I only have 3 weeks or so to get this done.

August 6, 2013 10:06 PM - petebklyn
oct11 to oct16
August 6, 2013 10:15 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Snobble, I mean Snobby AND Mean. : P
August 6, 2013 10:32 PM - petebklyn
g'night. early bed for me.
August 6, 2013 10:49 PM - pepper
hahaha. love this...

http://littlewhitelion.com/shark-cat-cleans-the-kitchen-35637/
Edited at August 6, 2013 10:49 PM
August 6, 2013 11:11 PM - Arkady
LOL, pepper! That is mesmerizingly idiotic!
August 6, 2013 11:12 PM - Arkady
rob - Glad I got it wrong. I'd definitely go for the hearing aid. Pretty sure you can get it by deadline.
Edited at August 6, 2013 11:12 PM
August 6, 2013 11:23 PM - pepper
Right, Arkady? I'd say it was unfriendly to the cat, but it seems so content... so, what do I know?