Thursday OT
April 11, 2013 5:55 AM - pepper
No visit to Sarajevo would be complete without a mention of the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife Sofia; the spark that started WWI. It happened right here, next to the Latin Bridge, just outside Old Town. And there is a plaque commemorating the event on the spot. Not sure what the Austro-Hungarian gun laws were at the time.

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April 11, 2013 6:19 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
"Not sure what the Austro-Hungarian gun laws were at the time."

rofl! dobro jutro, pepper!
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April 11, 2013 6:27 AM - pepper
:o) dobro jutro, Snappy. I couldn't resist...
#2
April 11, 2013 6:38 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
well pepper, as the austro-hungarian n.r.a. would've told you, the assassin would've found a way to kill a.d.f. even without a gun (slingshot maybe?) so why limit guns? lol! from what i understand from my extensive history studies, a.d.f.'s last words were "we need gun control. please...limit access. let this be my dying lega....." then the poor bastard expired. little known fact!
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April 11, 2013 6:48 AM - pepper
Interesting. That's not something that shows up in history books. I was thinking it could have been done with a knife or sword, but the opportunities for such a hit would have been limited. As it was, they were in an open car greeting the citizens of Sarajevo, and Princip was in the crowd of onlookers. This is supposedly about 1 second before it happened.
Edited at April 11, 2013 6:48 AM
#4
April 11, 2013 6:54 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
yes, the fact that they were in an open car, thus leaving them open to attack is what sticks out for the historians. but unfortunately the lesson wasn't learned (see j.f.k.) knives and such require one to get up close and personal so the assassin poo-pooed that method. according to his diary, he was a wimp who couldn't stomach hand-to-hand combat and thus chose a gun. he also noted how easy it was for him to get hold of a gun. he also predicted that he'd be, as a ghost of course, laughing at the americans' interpretation of their 2nd amendment in the future. that thunder we had last night? that was him stomping his feet in a fit of guffaws.
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April 11, 2013 6:56 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
so much for history :-)

whatcha have for breakfast? anything super yummy?
#6
April 11, 2013 6:57 AM - pepper
How quickly the conversation turns to poo ;) You have quite the early morning imagination...
#7
April 11, 2013 6:58 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
lol :-) my insanity is at its best first thing in the morning.
#8
April 11, 2013 6:59 AM - pepper
Just coffee. Waiting for the Beau to get back (again) so we can go to our favorite Bosnian restaurant (again) for a nice big, long lunch.
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April 11, 2013 7:01 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
sweet. what's for lunch?
#10
April 11, 2013 7:05 AM - rf
Banana with peanut butter, coffee.
Edited at April 11, 2013 7:05 AM
#11
April 11, 2013 7:06 AM - pepper
Probably the same thing I always have. The same thing I posted the other day. I've tried lots of stuff, but now have it honed down to my favorite 3 dishes. The klepe, which are like mini meat-stuffed ravioli with a big dollop of sour cream on top (I scrape most of it off), chicken muskalica - which has onions, garlic, tomatoes, mushrooms and peppers, and chicken hadjiski - onions and mushrooms in a sour cream sauce, and my favorite. Veal with those last 2 dishes is a lot more authentic, but I find the veal tough and don't enjoy it as much. The veal here is free-range...
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April 11, 2013 7:09 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
rf, interesting combo. never had peanut butter with a nanner.

pepper, don't think that the fact that the veal is free range will get you off the hook with peta :-)
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April 11, 2013 7:10 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
oh, wait, i have. pb and nanner sandwiches. is that how you are having it?
#14
April 11, 2013 7:11 AM - pepper
Sorry, but those peta folks are nutters, for the most part.
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April 11, 2013 7:15 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
they definitely are. they have a good purpose, but they act like such fools that they alienate a lot of people and thus a chance for wider appeal/support.
#16
April 11, 2013 7:19 AM - pepper
Right. Extremism of any sort has no appeal for me.
#17
April 11, 2013 7:24 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
agreed
#18
April 11, 2013 7:43 AM - Partridge
hello.

hope you are having fun, Pep!

you one kooky kid, Snap.
#19
April 11, 2013 7:47 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
kooky, insane, tomato, tomahhtoe :-)

how's it going this a.m. part?
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April 11, 2013 7:54 AM - dibs
GM
#21
April 11, 2013 8:02 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
you are late, david. this lazy behavior won't be tolerated.
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:02 AM
#22
April 11, 2013 8:06 AM - dibs
Lazy day. Headed to Philly on an 11:30 train.


Edited at April 11, 2013 8:11 AM
#23
April 11, 2013 8:06 AM - Partridge
All good here chez Partridge. Have coffee, will drink. Just waiting on Dave's assessment of the state of the world.


#24
April 11, 2013 8:06 AM - CGar
GM. Since I'm sure you were all sleepless with worry, I'm happy to report that my cardiologist said my stress test looks normal. He'll now study and write up the results and send them to my regular doctor.
#25
April 11, 2013 8:07 AM - CGar
And I got a promotion yesterday.
#26
April 11, 2013 8:10 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
no excuse, david. punctuality is a demand, not a suggestion!
#27
April 11, 2013 8:10 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
congrats
#28
April 11, 2013 8:11 AM - dibs
Promotion!!!!! WOW. Congrats. Last we heard you were bitching and moaning about everything
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:11 AM
#29
April 11, 2013 8:13 AM - Partridge
Wow, CGar, that's great news all around. Are you doing your happy dance this morning? I bet your commute was easy today too.
#30
April 11, 2013 8:14 AM - Arkady
Terrif, CG.
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April 11, 2013 8:28 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Congrats, CGar!
#32
April 11, 2013 8:49 AM - Arkady
M4L around? I've spilled coffee on my laptop & need repair service advice.
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April 11, 2013 8:56 AM - rf
Congratulations CGar! Are you pleased? Or do you think it's just out of the frying pan, into the fire?
#34
April 11, 2013 8:57 AM - rf
Snappy, I skip the bread. Cut chunks of banana, top with PB, eat!
#35
April 11, 2013 9:00 AM - rf
Arkady, I just sent you a recommendation re the laptop. Good luck!

Off to the oral surgeon, wish me luck!
#36
April 11, 2013 9:02 AM - Deleted
oral lulz
#37
April 11, 2013 9:03 AM - Arkady
Thanks, rf. Good luck.
#38
April 11, 2013 9:07 AM - Donatella

rf, I hope you get nitrous oxide in addition to all the other stuff. Good luck. [doesn't life have enough character building experiences?]
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April 11, 2013 9:08 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM

Congrats, CGar! All your hard work has been recognized!
Edited at April 11, 2013 9:13 AM
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April 11, 2013 9:08 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Does the promotion package come (nh) with a different commute?
#41
April 11, 2013 9:13 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Good luck, rf!
#42
April 11, 2013 9:24 AM - DeLepp
congrats c-gar, by the way you have been speaking I figured your days were numbered.
#43
April 11, 2013 9:29 AM - Arkady
Dona - What about your computer geek?
#44
April 11, 2013 9:34 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Likewise, delepp, I thought they were either canning people or the penguin was flying the coop.
#45
April 11, 2013 9:37 AM - DeLepp
cobble, I was getting ready for all the drunk texts that would be coming my way from the future liquid lunches.
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April 11, 2013 9:39 AM - Slopefarm
congrats, CGar!!
#47
April 11, 2013 9:40 AM - Deleted
congrats cgar
Edited at April 11, 2013 9:40 AM
#48
April 11, 2013 9:40 AM - CGar
"The klepe, which are like mini meat-stuffed ravioli with a big dollop of sour cream on top"

Though not on the Wiki list, they sound a lot like Kreplach, pepper.

"Kreplach (from Yiddish: ???????? kreplekh, ?????? krepl neut. sg.) are small dumplings filled with ground meat, mashed potatoes or another filling, usually boiled and served in chicken soup, though they may, rarely, be served fried. They are similar to Italian tortellini, Chinese wontons, and Polish pierogi.

Dishes similar to kreplach are Baozi, Buuz, Guotie, Gyoza, Jiaozi, Kalduny, Khinkali, Mandu, Mant?, Maultasche, Momo, Pelmeni, Pierogi, Ravioli, Tortellini, Schlutzkrapfen, Kärntner Nudeln and Wontons."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreplach
#49
April 11, 2013 9:41 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ah, Right, the CH/BH Gentlemen of Leisure Daytime Drinking Club. Also famous for drunk posting, I believe. : P
#50
April 11, 2013 9:41 AM - Donatella
oh right! He is really great Arkady. Martin Todorov. 917-536-8766. info@nycitech.com.

The Angie's list deal is 55 bucks an hour. Maybe he will extend that to you too. Or maybe you are a member of Angie's list.
#51
April 11, 2013 9:41 AM - Donatella

CGar, congratulations.


#52
April 11, 2013 9:43 AM - Arkady
Thx, Do a
#53
April 11, 2013 9:45 AM - CGar
Thank you all very much.

The stress test results are a huge relief. The chest pains have weighed heavily on mind.

I'm happy with the promotion, of course. But, rf pretty much nailed it as "out of the frying pan, into the fire". This will be good for my resume, as I'm now managing a team of 4 people; so even if I don't get fired, DeLepp, I'm still looking. partridge, except for the idiot commuters I encounter, the commute itself has mostly been fine for the past 4-6 weeks. And, dave, Biff made the same point, and I assured him that I would still have plenty to bitch about.
#54
April 11, 2013 9:47 AM - pepper
Yeah, sounds the same, CGar. But they are not in a soup. Just eaten like a pasta dish.

And congratulations to you!
Edited at April 11, 2013 9:47 AM
#55
April 11, 2013 9:48 AM - sixyearsandcounting
http://flowsmapper.geo.census.gov/flowsmapper/map.html
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/10/census-takes-a-look-at-new-yorkers-migration-patterns/

Use when *rob* complains about all those Midwesterners coming to Brooklyn. More NYS residents moved to Brooklyn than from all other states combined (no surprise there). Most of the people moving from the rest of the USA moved from metropolitan areas.
#56
April 11, 2013 9:48 AM - Donatella

Arkady, getting a new keyboard on a laptop is pretty straightforward. Parts are cheap; turning it over to drain is probably the best thing first aid thing to do now. It may dry out and be ok.
#57
April 11, 2013 9:49 AM - Slopefarm
OK, so not so congrats on the promotion. Good luck, fingers crossed, and milk it for all its got.

PS You forgot shumai.
#58
April 11, 2013 9:50 AM - CGar
And, PS, yes people here are still being canned like tuna, including, I've now learned, someone on the team I'm now managing. Plus which, my manager is going out on maternity leave again, so I'll likely be managing all of her teams - careerwise/resumewise, I view it as all good for me. So, even though the head of my department dislikes me on a personal level, I think I'm safe for a while.
#59
April 11, 2013 9:51 AM - pepper
Lamb on a spit is a specialty of the house here. And is well-loved throughout Bosnia. Especially south of here in Jablonica.
Edited at April 11, 2013 9:51 AM
#60
April 11, 2013 9:52 AM - CGar
Not at all, Slopey. I'll gladly take the Congrats. As I said, it's all good. And it could certainly be much worse: (a) I could've been rushed to Mount Sinai for emergency bypass surgery yesterday afternoon; (2) I could be the guy on the chopping block; or (Third) a steeple could've fallen on me during last night's storm.
Edited at April 11, 2013 9:55 AM
#61
April 11, 2013 9:54 AM - Arkady
I've had a fan aimed at it for 24 hours but some keys still don't work (notably the 'n') so I'm now on the desktop.
Edited at April 11, 2013 9:54 AM
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April 11, 2013 9:54 AM - Slopefarm
That's a good outlook. OK, congrats restored.
Edited at April 11, 2013 9:54 AM
#63
April 11, 2013 9:54 AM - Deleted
Good morning.

Congratulations, CGar.

Regarding Gino's of Bay Ridge: I wouldn't recommend it for a get-together. I arrange a fair amount of affairs, and I used Gino's 3 years ago. It was one of the worst venues I ever arranged. When I was making the arrangements, I specifically told them that I needed the space for 4 hours, and they told me it would be no problem. The contract they made up, however, stated 3 hours (and yes, I was a fool for not checking it more carefully, but I assumed that their word meant something). Come the day of the event, they kicked us out after three hours. Not only that, they sat us so closely together that it was hard to mingle, and I found the food to be mediocre. I've never used them since.

I've never tried them as a restaurant, and it is a popular place, so they must be doing something right, but I don't get it. About a month ago I went there for pizza (which is how they became famous), as they are literally next door to my lawyer's office. I wasn't impressed with the pizza either. Again, they must be doing something right, but I haven't found it.

If you wanted a similiar place to get together in Southern Brooklyn, I would recommend Spumoni Garden's restaurant.
#64
April 11, 2013 10:02 AM - CGar
"some keys still don't work (notably the 'n')"

Makes it awfully difficult to type MORON.
#65
April 11, 2013 10:04 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
CGar, could chest pains actually be tightness in lungs? After all the colds, etc. Could be lingering?
#66
April 11, 2013 10:09 AM - dibs
Keyboards will generally work once they dry out. Aslo, they are very cheap nowadays.
Edited at April 11, 2013 10:09 AM
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April 11, 2013 10:20 AM - Slopefarm
A propos of nothing, I found this funny, from a Slate column on cooking polenta.

"The process that turns fresh corn into coarse cornmeal is, in its effects, roughly equivalent to whatever it is that turned Tom Waits’ 1973 voice into Tom Waits’ 2013 voice."


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April 11, 2013 10:22 AM - dibs
Coarse cornmeal doesn't make good polenta. it has to be finely ground, otherwise it's just grits. And instant polenta is a no-no.
Edited at April 11, 2013 10:22 AM
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April 11, 2013 10:26 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Patti Smith meets the Pope:
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April 11, 2013 10:28 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Benson, we had a teacher gathering once at Spumoni Gardens. Of course the food was good there too. That was the place where the economics teacher said he was going to the ATM, left, and never paid his share of the bill.
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April 11, 2013 10:29 AM - Slopefarm
As the old joke goes, "the pope is the one wearing the yarmulke."
#72
April 11, 2013 10:33 AM - Donatella

Does anyone know a company which does corporate "give aways"? One of the companies I am consulting to lost their marketing person and they wanted to buy some stuff for a trade show. I think they want to get thumb drives branded with their logo (pretty played out give away but whatever...).
#73
April 11, 2013 10:34 AM - Deleted
Six;

One of my older brother's college friends is the brother of a present city councilman. They get together a few times each year for dinner. Recently they got together at Peter Luger's, and the councilman joined the festivities for part of the time. He ordered drinks and dinner, yacked it up, and then at one point got up and said "It's been great, fellas". He left, and never offered to chip in a penny.

I am ashamed to say it, but this councilman is a Republican :(
#74
April 11, 2013 10:36 AM - Donatella

Tom Waits 1980 voice was pretty gravelly. I remember one summer in the Hamptons when a bunch of the drunkards in our house insisted on listening to him in the morning while they nursed their hangovers. I GOT a hangover from listening to him. Poster boy for Substance Abuse.
#75
April 11, 2013 10:37 AM - Deleted
well, obvoiusly him not paying his fair share helps the economy. class warfare much benson ? :)
#76
April 11, 2013 10:40 AM - Deleted
for you benson: red hook

http://gothamist.com/2013/04/11/red_hook_in_the_1950s.php#photo-1
#77
April 11, 2013 10:41 AM - Deleted
Equal time: I arranged another affair in which our local assemblyman showed up. This was a rather cheap affair, $25 pp. When I was depositing the money, I noticed that the assemblyman had paid with a check from the account of "Friends of ____". He was a Democrat. ;p
#78
April 11, 2013 10:45 AM - etson
Think there are only 4 (?) Republican council members and two of them would be much too young.
Repub leader? Of 'get the f outta my office' fame??
Edited at April 11, 2013 10:45 AM
#79
April 11, 2013 10:45 AM - Deleted
The picture of the house on the corner of Van Brunt and Van Dyke is steps from where I lived as a small kid. We lived on Van Dyke between Van Brunt and Conover St. The house burnt down (along with about 5 others) in 1961. We then lived in the Red Hook projects for 2 years (the tall building with the water tank), and then it was off to Gravesend.
Edited at April 11, 2013 10:45 AM
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April 11, 2013 10:46 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Lol Benson, so was this teacher, who was also the most senior teacher in the department, and therefore making the most money!

(edit: responding to 10:34, just to clarify which party)
Edited at April 11, 2013 10:47 AM
#81
April 11, 2013 10:46 AM - Deleted
Etson. Not that one.
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April 11, 2013 10:50 AM - MontroseMorris
Congratulations, Penguin Boy. That's great news. I'll be sure to tell your E-wife, as your increased salary will enable her to buy more houses and furnish them.
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April 11, 2013 10:50 AM - CGar
cobble, my regular doctor thinks it may be tightness in my chest muscles from tightening due to stress.
#84
April 11, 2013 10:52 AM - etson
Assuming Ignizio and Ullrich are both too young that leaves only Halloran doesn't it??
I'd be disappointed if it was somehow one of the former two. Like them both from what I have seen.
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April 11, 2013 10:52 AM - sixyearsandcounting
"as your increased salary will enable her to buy more houses and furnish them."

oh god, does that mean we have to hear more about paint selection?
#86
April 11, 2013 10:53 AM - Deleted
"my regular doctor thinks it may be tightness in my chest muscles"

less reps yo
#87
April 11, 2013 10:54 AM - etson
Oh and congrats CGar! I think it's good news any way you look at it.
#88
April 11, 2013 10:54 AM - Deleted
Etson;

You're missing someone.
#89
April 11, 2013 10:56 AM - etson
OK, won't ask any further, will just look it up...


Edited at April 11, 2013 10:56 AM
#90
April 11, 2013 10:59 AM - dibs
Need to start some basic exercises, cgar
Edited at April 11, 2013 10:59 AM
#91
April 11, 2013 11:04 AM - CGar
DH, I may be in your hood late Saturday and, if so, can try to hail an SUV to bring your terrace table if you still want it. If not, I'll have a rental car toward the end of April and can deliver it then?
Edited at April 11, 2013 11:04 AM
#92
April 11, 2013 11:04 AM - sixyearsandcounting
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2303588/The-mother-says-having-children-biggest-regret-life.html

#93
April 11, 2013 11:06 AM - CGar
dave, I need to know the next dates when you'll be in Brooklyn, including weekend dates, please.
#94
April 11, 2013 11:08 AM - Deleted
hey cgar - thanks. i don't think the table is gonna work. opted for more seating and the BBQ is pretty big - but thanks again!
Edited at April 11, 2013 11:08 AM
#95
April 11, 2013 11:08 AM - CGar
[Assiduously ignoring the college student]
#96
April 11, 2013 11:10 AM - dibs
I was originally planning to return the 29th but if I extend my stay on the cape i will be back on May 6. Either way i would be here the weekend that follows those return dates. After that not sure and definitely away May 24 until the 3rd or 4th of June or thereabouts.
Edited at April 11, 2013 11:10 AM
#97
April 11, 2013 11:11 AM - CGar
Np, DH. If you change your mind, I'll have it for at least a couple more weeks. What kind of grill did you end up getting???
#98
April 11, 2013 11:11 AM - etson
Good news : my London place just rented, post 'rental' reno. Will post the listing if anyone interested.
#99
April 11, 2013 11:15 AM - dibs
Six, that's a very interesting article. It will no doubt produce huge amounts of negative comments full of words like "selfish" and probably a lot of "b words."

that said, MOST of my hetero friend couples don't have children and I suspect at least 3/4 of them never wanted them. I never ask. I can understand this woman's point of view. Maybe it goes against nature as a woman but that's a pretty un-PC thing to say and probably quite narrow minded but whatever.

I couldn't fathom having children either. For that matter, we even think a dog is too much of a burden.
April 11, 2013 11:17 AM - CGar
Does anyone know if Lowe's or Home Depot (or if there's a local nursery/garden shop) will deliver multiple bags of soil? cobble has 5 very large planters on her deck, plus I have a lot of small pots, that take a lot of soil, and I can't be asked to schlep them up there myself. Back in the day, when I had the house and the car, I'd fill the car with bags of soil at Home Depot, park in front of the house, and schlep them out to the garden, but I was much younger then.
April 11, 2013 11:18 AM - Deleted
I'm very upset with myself today. I texted my roommate that I was ready to strangle the new dog. :( I didn't mean to say it like that, I was just so annoyed at the howling and crying and barking, which has only recently started to begin.
April 11, 2013 11:23 AM - Deleted
why does your roommate even have a dog? seems he's never there
April 11, 2013 11:23 AM - DeLepp
I'm sure the comments about that woman will be ghastly. Seems to be honest and caring despite her perceived limatations.
April 11, 2013 11:24 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Dona, Kritzer Marketing, Liz Kritzer. For giveaways.
April 11, 2013 11:24 AM - CGar
"if I extend my stay on the cape i will be back on May 6. Either way i would be here the weekend that follows those return dates."

Oh, right, I read something about that. Sorry for not replying. But, really, doesn't you being here the weekend after rather depend on how someone takes being dropped off at the Greyhound terminal in Truro???
April 11, 2013 11:27 AM - dibs
Terrible for the kids but if she had a talk with them to explain why she was writing the article, maybe not.
April 11, 2013 11:28 AM - CGar
Please post a link to the Pasty Rental.
April 11, 2013 11:30 AM - etson
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-38182570.html

For some reason the exterior photo is from when I first moved out in 99.
Streetview gives a better idea.
Edited at April 11, 2013 11:30 AM
April 11, 2013 11:30 AM - dibs
I almost called the car service this morning.
April 11, 2013 11:39 AM - Arkady
Pretty swanky, Etson!
Took the laptop to local repair place who think they can fix it. Keyboard is integrated so buying a new one isn't a great idea unless I'm stuck outboarding a wireless.
April 11, 2013 11:45 AM - MontroseMorris
Etson, is that one of those washers that is also a dryer? Seems like all my friends in London had one of them, although no one was that thrilled with how they worked.
April 11, 2013 12:01 PM - dibs
See a lot of those W/D combos on House Hunters Int'l.

Americans moving overseas don't realize how good we have it here from the standpoint of square footage and upscale amenities.
April 11, 2013 12:01 PM - More4Less
that is a nice pad.

arkady, is this that infamous laptop that you couldn't open? if so, isn't it still under warranty?
Edited at April 11, 2013 12:01 PM
April 11, 2013 12:03 PM - More4Less
don't know if those w/d combos there are any better but the ones here in the states sucks big time - ie takes forever to complete the drying cycle
Edited at April 11, 2013 12:03 PM
April 11, 2013 12:06 PM - dibs
Even the Bosch electric smaller nonventing dryers here take forever. Nothing like a big honkin gas dryer.
Edited at April 11, 2013 12:07 PM
April 11, 2013 12:06 PM - Donatella

Cobble, THANK YOU!!!!
April 11, 2013 12:08 PM - Donatella

CGar, Lowes will deliver anything. They usually do "curb delivery" so you need to negotiate lugging the stuff to the porch or have someone to help there.
April 11, 2013 12:10 PM - dibs
MM.....

Pensions??
Government employees??
Unions?
Obama?
Medicare?
SS?



Edited at April 11, 2013 12:10 PM
April 11, 2013 12:19 PM - More4Less
congrats CGar. the promo sounds like a necessity from their perspective but as you said, F it, I'll take it happily regardless
April 11, 2013 12:27 PM - Arkady
M4L - Yes, that's the one. I figured they wouldn't honor a warranty for my spilling coffee on it.
April 11, 2013 12:29 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
You're welcome, dona.
Edited at April 11, 2013 12:29 PM
April 11, 2013 12:38 PM - More4Less
oh yeah, warranty wouldn't cover that.
Edited at April 11, 2013 12:38 PM
April 11, 2013 12:45 PM - rf
Back from the oral surgeon. Excellent care but no nitrous--alas, I forgot to ask. Good thing I like the guy since it looks like I will have many more appointments and although I don't think I was overcharged (not at all!), he will increase his prosperity by adding me as a patient!
April 11, 2013 12:56 PM - More4Less
rf, my dentist saw a friend of mine recently and said "once he opened his mouth and I took a look, it was like staring into a gold mine"
April 11, 2013 12:57 PM - Deleted
Barf barf barf barf barf

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/sub/3734888361.html
April 11, 2013 1:07 PM - etson
Thanks for the comments. I actually have no idea whether it's a washer / dryer!
April 11, 2013 1:10 PM - Slopefarm
OK, just catching up:

1. "Tom Waits 1980 voice was pretty gravelly." Yes, dona. really went downhill on "Blue Valentine." Particularly his take on "Somewhere" from West Side Story. Also, there are parts of songs on thatw record where there are lyrics on the lyric sheet but he just growls and grunts.

2. "MM..... SS?" Nazi.

3. CGar -- I like the soil, mix, manure, peat moss, and mulch selection at Shannon on Ft. Hamilton much better than at Lowe's or Home Despot. They do deliver, but there might be a significant charge so you may need a large quantity to make it worth it.

4. "Etson, is that one of those washers that is also a dryer? Seems like all my friends in London had one of them, although no one was that thrilled with how they worked." We put one of those in the rental so we could providre both a w/d and a linen closet, but we regret it now. Putting in a stackable w/d instead.



Edited at April 11, 2013 1:10 PM
April 11, 2013 1:16 PM - Donatella
"rf, my dentist saw a friend of mine recently and said "once he opened his mouth and I took a look, it was like staring into a gold mine""

I have enriched many dentists. It's sad. I know every procedure available. I could teach dental school. Actually, the lower right quadrant IS teaching dental school. My dentist/oral surgeon used a new protein mix to stimulate stem cells to regenerate bone. As always, I am the outlier, the tail on the probability distribution, and so my dentist gets to use my mouth as a teaching tool. Pictures of my mouth that is.

Everything to do with dentistry sucks.
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April 11, 2013 1:23 PM - rf
Indeed, Donatella. When I went to the dentist, he told me I would need an oral surgeon and asked whether I needed someone in the neighborhood (Park Slope). I said it didn't matter, and he said, Oh yes, it does matter, because the further you get from Manhattan, the cheaper it will be." Ok, Midwood it is! I like the guy and the office a lot, and I got the good news that the bone in my jaws is excellent for implants. $$$$$$$$$$ but at least not $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
April 11, 2013 1:24 PM - Slopefarm
You folks are scaring me shitless.
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April 11, 2013 1:29 PM - MontroseMorris
Sorry Dave, not biting today. You'll have to find other entertainment. ; )
Edited at April 11, 2013 1:30 PM
April 11, 2013 1:33 PM - Arkady
At last a justification for the damned magnolia out back - there's a woodpecker nest in it!
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April 11, 2013 1:35 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
dh, if another idea for you if the tree stump is a bust:

wood look, but made of resin:
http://tinyurl.com/bqtugq5

and if you want it mobile, put it on this:
http://tinyurl.com/cmnvjnd
April 11, 2013 1:36 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
lol @ the pic, mm!!!
April 11, 2013 1:39 PM - Donatella

Good luck, rf. Like I said, it all sucks.
Edited at April 11, 2013 1:39 PM
April 11, 2013 1:43 PM - Donatella

Sorry Slopey. Some people get to avoid all this.
April 11, 2013 1:51 PM - dibs
LOL...just got here and Martin's cleaning up the dropped mafnolia blossoms for the third time.
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April 11, 2013 1:57 PM - Donatella

Gladys has got light green pompoms at the tips of all her branches now. The new tenants think it is pretty. Just wait. hehe.
April 11, 2013 2:00 PM - CGar
"I like the soil, mix, manure, peat moss, and mulch selection at Shannon on Ft. Hamilton"

Skippy, I think I went there with Arkady a while back in search of a plant for Snappy. Is there a particular name for the mix you're recommending? Surely, you don't expect me to go there and have to choose on my own??? As for delivery, I have a dolly, on which I can put a piece of plywood, so I suppose if someone can deliver to my lobby, I can then roll it up to my place.
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April 11, 2013 2:01 PM - Deleted
I'm not up on current music, but I've got to say that that song "Now you're just somebody I used to know" is one of the most original tunes I've heard in a long time, and the arrangements are great. DH, give us the lowdown on it.
April 11, 2013 2:11 PM - Slopefarm
Psssst, benson, that's not "current" music. Was a hit last summer. Just the other day it was on the radio and farmhand said "that's so OLD!" (I shudder to think of what she thinks I am, let alone Pete.)

CGar -- what are you planting. I have to say I don't remember brand names, I usually just pick it out at Shannon (or let Sammy at Shannon pick out what I need).
April 11, 2013 2:13 PM - Donatella

Ok, I promised this article by Phillip Verleger, venerable energy economist. He has been a prescient and bold energy analyst, often rattling the industry with his outspoken style, but highly respected. This article talks about the energy revolution in the US and what moving toward energy independence means.

http://www.international-economy.com/TIE_Sp12_Verleger.pdf

ok, outta here. Later.
Edited at April 11, 2013 2:13 PM
April 11, 2013 2:14 PM - dibs
We could all do a drive to Brooklyn Terminal Market to the garden center there and see Fulgencio.
April 11, 2013 2:17 PM - CGar
I don't care about brand names either, Slopey. I just want to know what mix to buy. I'll plant some annuals, some perennials, and this year I'm getting a mini Evergreen for Christmas which I'll move to the deck in nice weather.
Edited at April 11, 2013 2:17 PM
April 11, 2013 2:17 PM - CGar
"We could all do a drive to Brooklyn Terminal Market to the garden center there and see Fulgencio."

Be careful what you ask for . . .
April 11, 2013 2:19 PM - More4Less
Benson, Lech loves that song and was pimping it hard last year.
April 11, 2013 2:21 PM - rf
A drive to the Brooklyn Terminal Market? You? Oh wait...
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April 11, 2013 2:21 PM - Arkady
Slopey - Does Shannon make its own mixtures according to what you're planting?
Edited at April 11, 2013 2:21 PM
April 11, 2013 2:25 PM - Slopefarm
For containers, just get some potting soil. (No need to get "potting mix" which is all the nutrients but not enough soil, you would then also need to get a regular soil.) For big containers, get some regular soil to put at the bottom before you add the potting soil. This will save you a bit of money. Only bother with peat moss, manure, mulch etc for gardens as opposed to containers. For containers we use every year, we keep the previous year's soil, pull out old roots, and amend with potting soil. Get some small mulch if you've got a tree in a container and it gets a lot of sun.

If arkady disagrees with me, follow her advice.
Edited at April 11, 2013 2:25 PM
April 11, 2013 2:26 PM - dibs
Speaking of mixes, bird feed mixes sold in PA are regulated by the state as to content.
April 11, 2013 2:27 PM - Slopefarm
No, arkady -- they just sell it in bags. I just like what we've gotten from them. We're loyal to shannon -- they're really helped us get Slopey gardens in order (we are not great gardeners).
April 11, 2013 2:30 PM - dibs
(we are not great gardeners)

Best stick to lawyering and accounting.
Edited at April 11, 2013 2:30 PM
April 11, 2013 2:32 PM - CGar
"they're really helped us get Slopey gardens in order (we are not great gardeners)"

But are you "grey gardeners"??

Thanks, Skippy. I'm sure if "she" disagrees, we'll get a tongue lashing (nh).
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April 11, 2013 2:39 PM - Deleted
I'm confused. I also saw that it was published last year, but it seems to be having a second life on the radio these days.
April 11, 2013 2:41 PM - dibs
I wouldn't consider anyone who hasn't actually grown up and lived through the music of the 60s, 70s, 80s and some of the 90s (dh) to be a very good judge of music
April 11, 2013 2:42 PM - petebklyn
I don't think radio is where you listen for up-to-date music
April 11, 2013 2:44 PM - Slopefarm
Accounting????

No, not grey gardeners. LOL, I can't believe how much time, attention and celebrity has gone to that crazy household.

Nor are we Chauncey Gardiners, but here is some excellent gardening advice from a pro ("as long as the roots are not severed . . . "):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgGvd1UPZ88




April 11, 2013 2:44 PM - Deleted
Well, whatever. Whether it be 1 year old or 1 day old, my comment still stands - it really stands out from most of the tripe today.
April 11, 2013 2:44 PM - CGar
Love the English cottage garden look in Cara's Verandah Place house. >>>
April 11, 2013 2:46 PM - CGar
""Accounting????"

I think it was another of his anti-semitic cracks, Skippy. The only thing he left out was "banking". Notice he didn't say "Did you eat?", Max; he said, "'jew eat?".


April 11, 2013 2:48 PM - petebklyn
sitting in an english garden waiting for the sun
Edited at April 11, 2013 2:47 PM
April 11, 2013 2:48 PM - dibs
Well, the movie industry too
Edited at April 11, 2013 2:48 PM
April 11, 2013 2:50 PM - petebklyn
i'm not a big fan of tripe. even looking at it makes me gag.
Edited at April 11, 2013 2:50 PM
April 11, 2013 2:50 PM - Slopefarm
Now that farmhand can sit in the front seat and play with the radio (which i much prefer to her tuning ouut with headphones) I listen to more top 40 radio than at any time since I was about 9. Some songs seem to have a longer half-life than others after they peak. Used to Know has had a long half-life. Gangnam Style disappeared overnight shortly after it peaked. But quality is not what drives the halflife of radio hits -- I still hear Party Rock Anthem all the time.

End of year, farmhand and I named our top three worst hits of the year: Tonight (by Fun); Boyfriend (Bieber); and I don't remember the third song, but it was probably something by Ke$ha.


April 11, 2013 2:50 PM - CGar
MM, I just got and replied to your email. My Verizon email is not working this week, so I get only the occasional email to my BB (STFU, DH) and have to log in and check email when I get home.
April 11, 2013 2:54 PM - dibs
I love tripe, and menudo (especially some of the band members)
Edited at April 11, 2013 2:54 PM
April 11, 2013 2:56 PM - dibs
I just got offered a very attractive upgrade from Verizon including up to 14GB of shared WiFi from the new 4G Verizon card for my laptop and a significant reductiojn in my overall bill
April 11, 2013 2:56 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm hungry. I'd like a tuna salad sandwich with chopped celery, a little mustard, some apple cider vinegar, mayo, s&p, on white bread, please. Oh, and maybe a leaf of romaine or iceberg lettuce. Thx.
April 11, 2013 2:56 PM - Slopefarm
Just saw your 2:46, Cgar. Agreed. Which reminds me, I think dibs owes me a pound of flesh (nh).
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April 11, 2013 2:57 PM - CGar
Pretty much what I had for dinner last night, cobble, except on whole wheat, not goyishe white, and add a slice of pepper jack cheese.
Edited at April 11, 2013 2:59 PM
April 11, 2013 2:57 PM - Deleted
"I'm not up on current music, but I've got to say that that song "Now you're just somebody I used to know" is one of the most original tunes I've heard in a long time, and the arrangements are great. DH, give us the lowdown on it."

oh that's gotye - he's the duncan shiek of my generation
Edited at April 11, 2013 2:57 PM
April 11, 2013 3:00 PM - petebklyn
so what generation is duncan shiek? never heard of it or him or her.
April 11, 2013 3:00 PM - Slopefarm
"oh that's gotye - he's the duncan shiek of my generation"

I'm not sure the reference will be helpful to benson.

April 11, 2013 3:02 PM - dibs
pepper jack cheese is white trash


April 11, 2013 3:03 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
That's it! Goyishe White, the title for my memoirs! ; )
April 11, 2013 3:07 PM - etson
This is the 'learning outcome' for a course I have to do tomorrow:

"Leaders will better understand the importance of becoming better leaders and how the changing business landscape is shifting our perception of leadership"

I like my employer very much but this might lead to insanity.
April 11, 2013 3:08 PM - Deleted
This is like peeling an onion! First layer:gotye. Next layer: Duncan Sheik. When we get to the 1970's layer, let me know.
April 11, 2013 3:08 PM - CGar
"pepper jack cheese is white trash"

Takes white trash to know white trash.

April 11, 2013 3:09 PM - Deleted
haha for some reason i thought duncan was 80s but it's mid 90s - damn i'm getting old
April 11, 2013 3:09 PM - etson
Gotye song sounds like baa baa black sheep in a minor key (nursery rhyme, not sure if familiar in the US, but bet it is in Australia where the guy is from).
April 11, 2013 3:11 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Typical Management Leadership training HOOEY, etc. I hate HATE HATE that phoney baloney. I guarantee the 'takeaway' will be that your afternoon would have been better spent in a bar!
April 11, 2013 3:11 PM - Slopefarm
He's from Belgium, I think, etson.
April 11, 2013 3:13 PM - etson
Looks like both, slopey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotye
April 11, 2013 3:13 PM - CGar
dave can move to Montana now (and I'll help him pack (nh)) . . .

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/11/17705370-montana-votes-to-strike-down-law-criminalizing-deviate-gay-sex?lite
April 11, 2013 3:13 PM - dibs
So is Goldmember.
April 11, 2013 3:16 PM - Slopefarm
Yes, Thrift Shop is hilarious. One of the most bizarre-sounding hits to pierce the top 40 in a while. An insanely annoying solo saxophone riff repeated ad nauseum and occasional percussion beat. Does littlelegion have the version where he says "this is ___________awesome," or the more explicit version? I love top 40 songs that don't sound like top 40 songs. E.g., I don't like the new Mumford and Sons, but I love that it's got songs in the top 40 rotation.


Edited at April 11, 2013 3:17 PM
April 11, 2013 3:16 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
CGar, seriously....my memoir joke didn't even rate a little chuckle? Even if only initially?
Edited at April 11, 2013 3:17 PM
April 11, 2013 3:16 PM - CGar
"damn i'm getting old"

Laugh now, but just wait, and in a blink of the eye 20 years will have passed.
Edited at April 11, 2013 3:16 PM
April 11, 2013 3:16 PM - dibs
Life is over as they knew it for these dumbasses involved in the KPMG insider trading cases.
April 11, 2013 3:17 PM - Arkady
Yes, Etson, Baa-baa is here too - there's even a Geico comm'l based on it.
Cherish this moment - I don't have a strong opinion about buying dirt (NH). I don't buy much beyond seed-starting soil - mainly use my compost for garden.
April 11, 2013 3:17 PM - Deleted
my favorite group for a while has been 'beach house' - way more musical chops than gotye - but the lyrics don't translate well to melodramatic facebook posts for heartbroken teenage girls, hence no mainstream success

(sorry, i'm cranky)
April 11, 2013 3:17 PM - petebklyn
""Leaders will better understand the importance of becoming better leaders and how the changing business landscape is shifting our perception of leadership"
that would not cut it in lesson plans for teachers nowadays. You'd have to specify method to measure meeting that goal/objective.
Edited at April 11, 2013 3:17 PM
April 11, 2013 3:19 PM - dibs
""Leaders will better understand the importance of becoming better leaders and how the changing business landscape is shifting our perception of leadership"

if I found out a company that I owned stock in made their employyes goto this I'd sell the shares
Edited at April 11, 2013 3:19 PM
April 11, 2013 3:19 PM - Legion
Speaking of popular music,
I hit that inevitable parental milestone this past month.
The point where one's child influences our own musical tastes.

LittleLegion has been playing this non-stop on his iTouch.
With 230,000,000 hits, how can he be wrong?
I like it.

Macklemore and Ryan Lewis,
THRIFT STORE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes

(yes, the dude is wearing a fuzzy leopard coat somewhat like *rob's*
April 11, 2013 3:20 PM - Slopefarm
"dave can move to Montana now"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_i_HVBD9ks

". . . gonna be a dental floss tycoon"
April 11, 2013 3:20 PM - petebklyn
I know the 60's guy!
April 11, 2013 3:23 PM - Deleted
Keith Cassidy! That's not good.
April 11, 2013 3:23 PM - Slopefarm
Keith Cassidy does not belong on that list. Donovan wrote and perfomed his own songs, the lyrics were vaguely poetic and actually a little weird, though insipid. Cassidy was pure product for tweens.

Gotye closer to Donovan than Cassidy. Cassidy could never come up with something like mellow Yellow or Hurdy Gurdy Man.
April 11, 2013 3:23 PM - Legion
haha slopefarm,

Yes LittleLegion has unfortunately, been listening to the full version of both Macklemore's hit and Mumford's seemingly folksy (but F-word laden) sound.

He has yet to tell me "...you really f'd it up this time!"
April 11, 2013 3:25 PM - Slopefarm
lol, legion. Farmhand and friends really got into "Billionaaire" back in about fourth grade, just so they could sing at the top of their lungs the words "so FUCKING bad"
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April 11, 2013 3:27 PM - dibs
Donovan...Hurdy Gurdy Man!!!!!!
Edited at April 11, 2013 3:27 PM
April 11, 2013 3:28 PM - dibs
"lol, legion. Farmhand and friends really got into "Billionaaire" back in about fourth grade, just so they could sing at the top of their lungs the words "so FUCKING bad"

And I remember when we were in grade school, during Christmastime we'd loved sining Little Drummer Boy so we could sing the part "the ox and ASSSSSS kept time, pa rumpah pum pum."
April 11, 2013 3:29 PM - More4Less
just catch Benson up on some hardcore gangsta rap and call it a wrap on music for today
April 11, 2013 3:32 PM - Partridge
"Cassidy was pure product for tweens."

Don't you go maligning my brother!


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April 11, 2013 3:33 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
i like duncan sheik!
Edited at April 11, 2013 3:33 PM
April 11, 2013 3:33 PM - dibs
I think I had a bit of a crush on David Cassidy. I think it was the hair.
April 11, 2013 3:33 PM - etson
I know Gotye, Richard Marx (ugh) and Donovan (ugh) but not Duncan or Keith.
April 11, 2013 3:35 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
richard marx was good back in the day (when we didn't know better). tell me you don't get a little misty eyed when thinking of 'hold on to the nights!'
April 11, 2013 3:35 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
who is this gotye and how do you even pronounce that?
April 11, 2013 3:35 PM - dibs
I have both Mellow Yellow and Hurdy Gurdy Man on my iPod
April 11, 2013 3:36 PM - Deleted
go - tee - ay
April 11, 2013 3:37 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
oh-good-heavens.

where'd they get that name from? mean something in another language?
April 11, 2013 3:38 PM - Legion
...allow me to interpret benson:

Goyte (00's) = Duncan Sheik (90's) = Richard Marx (80's) = David Cassidy (70's)= Donovan (60's)
April 11, 2013 3:39 PM - Legion
...ok, substitute Peter Frampton for David Cassidy (70's)
April 11, 2013 3:40 PM - Legion
I should be writing David Cassidy who played Keith Partridge on the Partridge Family.
Sorry for the confusion.
April 11, 2013 3:40 PM - dibs
Like Gaultier.
Edited at April 11, 2013 3:40 PM
April 11, 2013 3:41 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
only a downmarket version, i'm sure.
April 11, 2013 3:44 PM - Legion
I love Donovan and a lot of the music all the dudes on that list made.
I thought Cassidy wrote his own music like "I think I love you"?
Anyway, it's more a list of popularity of music, and with the ladies, than of musicianship.
Edited at April 11, 2013 3:44 PM
April 11, 2013 3:44 PM - Slopefarm
I knew you meant David Cassidy. (Not Keith Carradine.)
April 11, 2013 3:45 PM - More4Less
Dubai rolls out $450k lambo police car that can go up to 217 mph - fast enough to catch most speedsters:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/dubai-unveils-new-car-450k-lamborghini-article-1.1313530
April 11, 2013 3:46 PM - More4Less
if Kim K is getting the rumored diet contract from one of the big firms then she must be paid on a per lb basis as she is ballooning fast - looks big enough to be carrying triplets
April 11, 2013 3:49 PM - Partridge
Ark!

Just had a client select gift (small hot air balloon) to give to her godmother. as a house warming/moving gift. She deliberated long and hard. She said the move would be difficult for her, that she is ultra picky and if she selects the wrong gift she'll certainly hear about it. "She's really hard to buy for. She lives at the Carlyle and has for many years."

I wrapped the hot air balloon carefully and beautifully for Elaine Stritch.


April 11, 2013 3:51 PM - DeLepp
ES is a piece of work.
Edited at April 11, 2013 3:51 PM
April 11, 2013 3:54 PM - More4Less
was this already posted by someone here? furballs replacing various sports balls in hilarious blog:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/sports-balls-replaced-cats-gallery-1.1313890
Edited at April 11, 2013 3:54 PM
April 11, 2013 3:55 PM - Legion
"I knew you meant David Cassidy. (Not Keith Carradine.)"

...nor David Carradine!
April 11, 2013 4:00 PM - Legion
Hi CGar,
Congratulations on your promotion!
I congratulated benson too yesterday, just after he left the OT.

The OT has a lot of upwardly mobile individuals.
Edited at April 11, 2013 4:00 PM
April 11, 2013 4:03 PM - etson
Who is Elaine Stritch?
April 11, 2013 4:05 PM - DeLepp
ES is an 88 year old actress better known for her broadway/cabaret work more thing anything else. Big deal in NYC acting circles and her move back to michigan at 88 made front page of nytimes. I've seen her in some edward albee plays.
April 11, 2013 4:09 PM - CGar
Yes, Goyishe White and the Seven Dwarves is a great title for your memoir, although I ain't posing as one of the dwarves for your dust jacket.
April 11, 2013 4:10 PM - More4Less
oh benson got promoted too? Congrats to Benson too then
April 11, 2013 4:10 PM - Deleted
Another tidbit about Elaine Stritch: her uncle was a famous cardinal in the Catholic church: Samuel Cardinal Stritch. Famous for his work with the poor during the Great Depression.

In tomorrow's OT, I would appreciate it if someone would bring me up to date on the popular TV shows of the last 20 years or so.
April 11, 2013 4:13 PM - Donatella
I need to attend a remedial pop music course. I stopped paying attention a pretty long time ago but feel sort of embarrassed by it (until I listen to something current recommended by Spotify).
April 11, 2013 4:13 PM - CGar
"I know Gotye"

Everytime someone has posted this today I read it as "Goy".
April 11, 2013 4:14 PM - CGar
Elaine Stritch was good in Law & Order and in Monster-in-Law. I thought I'd just read she was doing her final performance soon at Cafe Carlyle?
April 11, 2013 4:14 PM - Donatella

dh, can you give me a little list, say three artists who you like now? I'll check them out.
April 11, 2013 4:16 PM - dibs
I wonder if it will make the front page of the NY Times when I finally move back to PA
Edited at April 11, 2013 4:16 PM
April 11, 2013 4:16 PM - DeLepp
ES was a drunk as well, wrote a book or two about it. There is a campy 60s film "Who Killed Teddy Bear" where she played a lesbian hostess at club which also starred Sal Mineo as a busboy with sexual problems.
April 11, 2013 4:18 PM - DeLepp
"I wonder if it will make the front page of the NY Times when I finally move back to PA."

I'm thinking the BH blog's crime blotter.


April 11, 2013 4:19 PM - CGar
MM, you MORON, I'd post over there >>> , but I can't. Do you not recall that your BOTD was my next door neighbor for 10 years??? Had you told me you were in the nabe and doing this as BOTD, I could've walked you down the block to show you the carriage house (closer to Henry) that used to be the Rankin's carriage house. I know the present owners well and have been in the house many times.
Edited at April 11, 2013 4:20 PM
April 11, 2013 4:20 PM - rf
Are you leaving Brooklyn Heights??? (I know, you're just a guest.)
April 11, 2013 4:21 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"Gangnam Style disappeared overnight shortly after it peaked."

Just catching up here. And yet, Slopey, I heard it blaring in the desert near Abu Dhabi a few weeks ago. The South Korean kid in our group was horrified - "Will I ever escape this?" he asked.
April 11, 2013 4:22 PM - CGar
"I wonder if it will make the front page of the NY Times when I finally move back to PA"

Rather depends on whether you're thrown off the balcony. Though I'd say the Post is more likely to carry your crime of passion than the Times.

April 11, 2013 4:25 PM - CGar
PS, you can see my house in the second picture, not that you could be asked to point out that historical higlight in your column.
April 11, 2013 4:25 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"richard marx was good back in the day (when we didn't know better)."

Snappy, I was gone for a few hours but you were all right here waiting for me.
Edited at April 11, 2013 4:25 PM
April 11, 2013 4:31 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Re contemporary music, I hadn't heard of Gotye until Benson posted. But I've definitely heard that song. And I heard "Thrift Store" for the first time today in a coffee shop. Definitely a Mumford & Sons fan (in the sense that unlike every other new group, I've actually downloaded their music). And Lana del Rey is oddly addicting but I think I'll be sick of her songs in like two weeks.
April 11, 2013 4:32 PM - dibs
"Gangnam Style disappeared overnight shortly after it peaked."


Luckily the only place I've seen him has been the pistachio commercial. Once he hits Dancing With the Stars you'll know he's washed up.
Edited at April 11, 2013 4:37 PM
April 11, 2013 4:32 PM - Biff Champion
BEAVER KILLS MAN!

http://www.examiner.com/article/beaver-kills-man-fisherman-bitten-to-death-by-beaver-after-taking-photo

(tell me something I didn't know)
April 11, 2013 4:34 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Biff, I was in your coffee shop in Greenpoint yesterday:
https://plus.google.com/106112921852640668764/about?gl=us&hl=en
April 11, 2013 4:34 PM - rf
The Times article online included this photo of her and Liz Smith in 1956.
April 11, 2013 4:34 PM - Deleted
"dh, can you give me a little list, say three artists who you like now? I'll check them out."

check out:

beach house
cat power
the national


April 11, 2013 4:35 PM - Arkady
You've got to look out for those dentata!
April 11, 2013 4:36 PM - rf
Oy, Arkady, are you talking to me???
April 11, 2013 4:36 PM - CGar
From Biff . . . jackal beware . . .

http://www.examiner.com/article/beaver-kills-man-fisherman-bitten-to-death-by-beaver-after-taking-photo


April 11, 2013 4:38 PM - CGar
Jinx, Biff. As Roseanne Rosanadana would say, "Never mind."
April 11, 2013 4:38 PM - Biff Champion
"From Biff . . . jackal beware . . . "

Old news. The latest is that Heavy Boozing Also Kills Man.
April 11, 2013 4:39 PM - etson
"cat power"

Seriously?
Edited at April 11, 2013 4:39 PM
April 11, 2013 4:39 PM - dibs
I haven't been close to a beaver in over 28 years.
April 11, 2013 4:40 PM - Biff Champion
'Cunning cunnilingus' ploy almost kills man after wife admits she put lethal toxin in her private parts

A BRAZILIAN woman has confessed to trying to kill her husband by putting poison in her vagina and urging him to have oral sex with her, a news agency claims.

The bizarre murder plot, dubbed "cunning cunnilingus" by one commentator, took place in the city of Sao de Jose Rio Preto.

The intended victim, a 43-year-old man who has not been named, says his wife tried to lure him into bed and encouraged him to perform oral sex on her. His suspicions were aroused when he noticed an unusual odour emanating from her private parts and, fearing she was unwell, took her to hospital, Brazil's Tvi24 reports. Medical tests revealed she had doused her vagina with enough of the unspecified toxin to kill both her husband and herself.

Confronted with the test results the woman reportedly confessed to her crime. It is believed she hatched the bizarre plot after asking her husband for a divorce, a request he now seems rather more likely to acquiesce to. Tvi24 says the woman has received medical treatment and sources claim her husband plans to sue her for attempted murder.

Vagina homicide is, needless to say, a highly unusual crime and a local police officer called Walter Coacino Junior has reportedly ordered "further investigation" due to the "nature" of the case. The woman may still face murder charges, he said.

The Jezebel website points out that "poisoning someone through your vagina is not that good of an idea" because "your vagina is fairly absorbent and shoving a bunch of poison in it will probably hurt you as much as it hurts the person you're trying to kill."

But Salon's Katie McDonough says the fact the man rushed his wife to hospital despite her death-by-vagina plotting suggests "chivalry is not dead".
April 11, 2013 4:40 PM - rf
How could Rand Paul have thought it was a good idea to visit Howard University?
April 11, 2013 4:40 PM - Biff Champion
What's worse, death by beaver or death by poisonous vajajay?
April 11, 2013 4:41 PM - etson
I think we already have enough PLUSA's on a cat power trip.
April 11, 2013 4:42 PM - Slopefarm
LOL @ gangnam style in Abu Dhabi -- do they mimic riding a camel when they dance it there?
April 11, 2013 4:47 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
My slightly younger sibling that was here recently, is a huge Cat Power fan. And a couple BH and I are friendly with took us to see The National last year ( or maybe it was 2 years ago...who can say at my age! If you'd said it had been 10, I'd have to believe you!) I'm so thrilled that I know 2 of DH's list!
April 11, 2013 4:48 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Hi Biff!
April 11, 2013 4:49 PM - Slopefarm
CGar, "never mind" = Emily Litella, not Roseanne Roseannadanna.
April 11, 2013 4:51 PM - Biff Champion
Hey Cobble!
April 11, 2013 4:51 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Slope, no, it was just blaring over the loudspeakers in the safari camp where tourists go to, you know, have an authentic desert experience.
April 11, 2013 4:52 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Rf, I give Rand Paul credit. At least he went and spoke. How many Republicans haven't even bothered to reach out? How many times has Obama spoken in Appalachia or the rural South since 2008?
April 11, 2013 4:54 PM - CGar
Thanks, Skippy.
April 11, 2013 4:54 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Though he was disingenuous about his past comments on the Civil Rights Act.
Edited at April 11, 2013 4:54 PM
April 11, 2013 4:56 PM - Slopefarm
Your response was the intended effect of the speech, 6.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/04/11/pundits_who_weren_t_at_rand_paul_s_speech_were_impressed_by_rand_paul_s.htm

And yes, bedouins have been grooving to K-pop for thousands of years, so definitely an authentic desert experience.
April 11, 2013 5:05 PM - sixyearsandcounting
The link is broken, Slope. But yes, reports say the speech itself was fairly tone-deaf. No surprise there.
April 11, 2013 5:06 PM - Deleted
maddow replayed a few clips (obviously the worst) - gotta say, paul has balls
April 11, 2013 5:07 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Back to talk of the 80s and 90s: http://www.autostraddle.com/23-80s-90s-young-adult-novel-covers-with-major-lesbian-subtext-1721516/
April 11, 2013 5:10 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I love the outfits in the Stritch/Smith photo.
April 11, 2013 5:15 PM - rf
Here's the Slate article:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/04/rand_paul_speaks_at_howard_university_the_libertarian_presidential_hopeful.2.html

And an op-ed from Times columnist Charles Blow:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/opinion/blow-rand-paul-goes-to-howard.html
April 11, 2013 5:29 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
rand paul wasn't disengenuous. he was an outright fuckin' liar when he said those words at howard.
April 11, 2013 5:32 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Uh-oh, what have I missed with Rand Paul...
April 11, 2013 5:32 PM - rf
And I loved how he blanked on the name of the (relatively) modern black Republican senator Edward Brooke.
Edited at April 11, 2013 5:32 PM
April 11, 2013 5:35 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
cobble, check facebook...everyone i know posted it there yesterday.
April 11, 2013 5:38 PM - MontroseMorris
CGar, I was out all afternoon. No, I didn't remember, and would love to see the carriage house one of these days. You will notice, through the wonders of the internet, that I pulled the photos from other sources, which means that I wasn't there standing in front of it.
Edited at April 11, 2013 5:38 PM
April 11, 2013 5:42 PM - Legion
bwahahahahaa,

From the NY Times article:
"The Republican Party is struggling with its future. Will it be a regional, Congressional party fighting a last-gasp battle for a shrinking base in a David and Goliath war against ominously expanding federal government? Or will it become a national, presidential party capable of adapting to a new American reality of diversity and expression in which the government serves an essential function in regulating public safety, providing a safety net and serving as a safeguard against discrimination? "

Who wrote this article? A toaster oven?
It seems devoid of any significant insight or historical fact.
Last I heard, the Republicans swept the House seats not three years ago and this President only garnered 3 or 4 million votes more than his opponent this past year.

"regulating public safety" huh? Heard of Nixon's EPA?
"providing a safety net" huh? Didn't GW Bush just pass Medicare Part D?
"safeguard against discrimination" huh? didn't the Republicans just battle against the government forcing Catholic institutions to provide abortion service funding. Getting Obama to admit he was wrong?


This is why you can't read the NYTimes alone people.
Please gain a wider perspective. It is essential for your mental health.
April 11, 2013 5:47 PM - etson
Don't see why both sides seem to be debating stuff from 40-150 years ago.



April 11, 2013 5:50 PM - MontroseMorris
'this President only garnered 3 or 4 million votes more than his opponent this past year.'

I just roll on the floor laughing when you guys bring that up. Listen to yourself -ONLY 3 or 4 million. Three or four million of ANYTHING is a lot. HE WON! GET OVER IT. If it had been 2,467 votes, he STILL won.
Edited at April 11, 2013 5:50 PM
April 11, 2013 5:55 PM - etson
NYT quote is ridiculous hyperbole though.


April 11, 2013 5:56 PM - Legion
etson,
I've said this here a few times over the years but I don't know if everyone likes to ignore it as if I'm joking or simply don't like the cold reasoning behind it.
America's demographic shifts are changing despite our national obsession over Black/White issues.
White's are no longer to be the plurality by 2050 and Blacks are not the largest minority group. Yet every single national political issue just has to be put through the strainer of Black/White race relations.

In the meantime we have the largest minority group, Hispanics, rising fast in both Republican (Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio) and Democratic establishments.
We have South Asian governors in states like Louisiana and North Carolina, we have an Asian population which is the fastest growing of all. We have Middle Eastern groups surging in numbers and political clout and bringing Islam into the picture with them.
...and still we have to drag ourselves through the wringer while China, India, Brazil, Russia could care less and North Korea is aiming nuclear weapons at us.
April 11, 2013 5:58 PM - rf
Obama had 62,611,250 votes. Romney 59,134,475. With 51 percent of the popular vote, Obama joins Franklin Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and Ronald Reagan as the only presidents in the past century to win over 50 percent twice.
April 11, 2013 5:58 PM - Legion
"HE WON! GET OVER IT. If it had been 2,467 votes, he STILL won."

Sure Obama won re-election, as I stated.
I'm pointing out the small margin because of the context of the NY Times article that would have the reader believe we've been relegated to square dances in Utah and outhouses in Idaho.
April 11, 2013 5:58 PM - rf
Hispanics and Asians voted overwhelmingly for Obama.
Edited at April 11, 2013 5:58 PM
April 11, 2013 5:59 PM - etson
Totally true legion.
April 11, 2013 6:00 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ok, I just read Charles Blow's op-ed. I get the idea. I'll look for the full text of what Rand said.
April 11, 2013 6:00 PM - rf
Legion, I don't read the NY Times alone. And I think you are dreaming psychedelic dreams if you think the Republicans are doing what they need to do to capture the black, Hispanic or Asian vote. Dream on.
Edited at April 11, 2013 6:00 PM
April 11, 2013 6:00 PM - Legion
quote:

"... (the Republican Party) fighting a last-gasp battle for a shrinking base in a David and Goliath war..."

Obama had 62,611,250 votes. Romney 59,134,475.

Those numbers really don't indicate a "David vs. Goliath" dynamic in play. Sorry.
April 11, 2013 6:04 PM - Legion
"Hispanics and Asians voted overwhelmingly for Obama."

True.
...but Obama won't be running again in 2016.
April 11, 2013 6:08 PM - etson
Why is there a black, Hispanic or Asian vote?
Why not just stand for what you believe and let whichever *individuals* agree with you vote for you.

Once people of all races become more interested in economic liberty and see the problems that government intervention causes then the Republican vote will strengthen.

My guess is that it will happen when healthcare costs explode as Obamacare ramps up.
April 11, 2013 6:15 PM - Legion
I see it that way too etson.
Ultimately, the reality of paying bills and putting food on the table weighs in on these social issues with the effect of gravity on a trapeze artist.
No matter the fancy twists and flying contortions that woo the crowd, gravity will have its due.

With the job participation rate at such a low level, restless voters start asking where's the beef?
Job creation doesn' t appear to be high on this administration's list though and the next election cycle is heading here fast in 2014.
April 11, 2013 6:23 PM - Donatella
"Don't see why both sides seem to be debating stuff from 40-150 years ago."

We are still fighting the Revolutionary War and the Civil War and dealing with the Court decisions of the 60s.
Edited at April 11, 2013 6:24 PM
April 11, 2013 6:23 PM - Legion
Just to further my last point,
I was in a Pizzeria today and overheard the guy behind the counter telling his customer (a city worker) that he's not seeing any jobs being created and he's glad he's ready to retire. The customer agreed and said the politicians are not doing well at all. Both said they voted for Obama.
I didn't say a word.
April 11, 2013 6:24 PM - Deleted
Notice!

The RMLC notified me that it is my day off re: political talk. I'm enjoying my day off.
April 11, 2013 6:25 PM - Legion
...and the great battle of Squirrel's Nest Hollow in Brooklyn! ;o)
Edited at April 11, 2013 6:25 PM
April 11, 2013 6:28 PM - Donatella

I have maligned Gladys. I am sorry for not appreciating her beauty, even if it is only a short part of the year (before she starts dumping on me). The little green pompoms on the tips of her branches are really sort of lovely in a silly sort of way. Ok, you can cart me away now.
April 11, 2013 6:29 PM - rf
It was Rand Paul who was talking about the distant history of the Republican Party. He thought the students didn't know the history but they did!
April 11, 2013 6:35 PM - Donatella

oh right, Legion. My father told me that his friend in Florida killed 800 squirrels. His friend was suffering a depression - maybe it had to do with being 85 years old, but I think he was dealing with the guilty aftermath of rodenticide. The guy was overrun with squirrels. He would catch them and then he would give them swimming lessions. They all failed. Maybe I could kill a squirrel. Once a long time ago, I flushed a baby mouse down the toilet and dreamt about it. Yeah, what am I saying? I could kill squirrels.
April 11, 2013 6:37 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Kid Rock "embarrassed to be a Republican". Guess he finally got the memo. Better late...
Edited at April 11, 2013 6:37 PM
April 11, 2013 6:39 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
LOL, dona, I'm starting to worry about you...
Edited at April 11, 2013 6:39 PM
April 11, 2013 6:43 PM - etson
A few bigger things Kid Rock should be embarrassed about (hair, being a shit musician etc)
April 11, 2013 6:45 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
::calling men in white coats for donat::

~speaking gently~

donat, gladys is not your friend, honey. it's time to put her to sleep.

:-)
Edited at April 11, 2013 6:45 PM
April 11, 2013 6:46 PM - Donatella

Cobble, it has been all the stress and the bad cold which is going on Week 4!!!!!! You are right I am a little light headed.
April 11, 2013 6:47 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
take to your bed with haste. tomorrow this will all seem like nothing more than a bad, bad dream.
Edited at April 11, 2013 6:47 PM
April 11, 2013 6:50 PM - Slopefarm
Dona's pic reminds me of the movie Blaze, in which Paul Newman plays Earl Long. His wife, a former stripper is on the phone with a reporter discussing Long's rumored (that means rumoured, etson) comeback. The reporter suggests Long's a little crazy. Through the window you see Long struggling to start a lawn mower. His wife tells the reporter Long's "the sanest man I know" at the precise moment Long walks up to the lawnmower with a shotgun and shoots it.
Edited at April 11, 2013 6:50 PM
April 11, 2013 6:50 PM - Donatella

Thanks I needed that Snappy. I am doing the Victorian bed cure tonight.

April 11, 2013 6:53 PM - Donatella

"Long walks up to the lawnmower with a shotgun and shoots it."

What's wrong with that?

;-)
April 11, 2013 7:01 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
LOL, We really need to get the funding for the PLUSA 'Rest Home' together...
April 11, 2013 7:05 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
dave spent all our retirement home funds on mimbos :-(
April 11, 2013 7:06 PM - Legion
[Little did Donatella know that later that evening in her dreams she would be visited by the squirrels of Florida past]
April 11, 2013 7:08 PM - Legion
Whatever you do donatella,
do not watch the new Willy Wonka:
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory ^^^^^^.
April 11, 2013 7:10 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
that looks scary as all hell!
Edited at April 11, 2013 7:10 PM
April 11, 2013 7:12 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I was ready to pitch my Nook, BB and phone out the window the other day. I think it's a sane response to effing up technology. ; )
April 11, 2013 7:13 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yikes! Are trying to drive the woman insane? She's already in a fragile enough state!
April 11, 2013 7:16 PM - CGar
"Obama had 62,611,250 votes. Romney 59,134,475.
Those numbers really don't indicate a "David vs. Goliath" dynamic in play. Sorry."

Bush had 50,456,002 votes. Gore 50,999,897.
Those numbers really don't indicate a "David vs. Goliath" dynamic in play. Except in the Republican parallel universe. Sorry.

Legion, I truly hope that the Republican Party continues to follow your advice and benson's and dave's and, thus, continues to lose presidential elections and seats in Congress. This country has twice elected a half-black, Kenyan-born, Muslim, Socialist. We're on a roll. Jussayin.
April 11, 2013 7:17 PM - CGar
Yes, benson, I'm being disingenuous, I know.
Edited at April 11, 2013 7:17 PM
April 11, 2013 7:17 PM - Donatella

CHECK THIS OUT!!!!

I just found this You Tube cartoon of Betty Boop (pre-Code) where she helps Coco the Clown who has a tooth ache and they both get HIGH ON NITROUS OXIDE!!!! It was banned in 1934. rf, where are you???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Tb4TMibk0&list=PL01C3AkXaQarrsX7CKfpcseRBVADk0M0y&index=11
April 11, 2013 7:21 PM - CGar
Funny story. At least up to the point where my commute went off the rails. I was on the Downtown 4/5 platform. Packed 6 deep, which I knew was a bad sign. I couldn't be asked to crowd into the train that finally came. So, I waited for the next train. I'm standing by the door waiting for people to exit. Out of the corner of my eye, I think I notice a familiar face. So, I take a chance and shout, "Adam Dahill!". Sure enough. As they say, New York is the smallest big city in the world.
April 11, 2013 7:27 PM - CGar
"would love to see the carriage house one of these days"

MM, my friends [C&B] live in the carriage house. [CG_ups lives across the street] They rescue Giant Schnauzers. B was the first person to tell me that CDog was NOT a Chow, in that she didn't have the typical Chow personality. Anyway, they said that they used to bring the horses into the carriage house on the Carroll Street side and then out through the (now) First Place side and then lead them up the house via First Place. And that there was a stream on the First Place side where the horses would drink.
April 11, 2013 7:37 PM - petebklyn
Your friends must be way older than I am because I don't even remember the stream and horses.
Edited at April 11, 2013 7:37 PM
April 11, 2013 7:40 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Whoa! dona, that is some trippy sh*t!
April 11, 2013 7:44 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Actually, I've heard that there are quite a few streams running around CH and CG, but most have been covered over or are underground streams.
April 11, 2013 7:45 PM - petebklyn
looks exactly my dentists office

Edited at April 11, 2013 7:45 PM
April 11, 2013 7:47 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Julia and Jacques are making ganache....yum!
April 11, 2013 7:48 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oooh, they're making souffle!
April 11, 2013 7:51 PM - petebklyn
what are u making?

April 11, 2013 7:51 PM - CGar
cobble, as long as you're here, in case you didn't see my earlier posts, you need soil for your planters on your deck.
April 11, 2013 7:52 PM - CGar
"Your friends must be way older than I am"

Moses isn't older than you are.
April 11, 2013 7:54 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm not cooking, BH is, what, I do not know.

Ooh! It's a Buche de Noel!

Too bad we don't have any plants for the planters and dirt. Sigh. If only....
Edited at April 11, 2013 7:55 PM
April 11, 2013 7:58 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Wait, I thought you ordered dirt?
April 11, 2013 8:02 PM - petebklyn
I love dirt. Anybody got any? I'm all ears.
April 11, 2013 8:03 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I've got LIC H dirt, but not for public consumption.
April 11, 2013 8:04 PM - CGar
"Ok, you can cart me away now."
"Maybe I could kill a squirrel. ... I could kill squirrels."

Hey, Annie Oakley, your room at Bellevue awaits.
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:04 PM
April 11, 2013 8:04 PM - CGar
"Wait, I thought you ordered dirt?"

No, I just inquired for you. Now that you're here . . .
April 11, 2013 8:05 PM - Legion
[ignoring CGar because he only chooses to respond to me in a political attack]

You are dead to me.
April 11, 2013 8:06 PM - CGar
^^^Finished catching up. I see cobble and Snappy already have the net and white suit for Donatella.
April 11, 2013 8:07 PM - CGar
I don't discuss politics in the OT, Legion. That was my alter ego.
April 11, 2013 8:09 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
The old greenhouse by BAM used to deliver. Otherwise, I'd go with what Sloppy said, or Lowe's.
April 11, 2013 8:10 PM - petebklyn
how could MM have done that BOTD and left out the important history of Joey Gallo's funeral?
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:10 PM
April 11, 2013 8:11 PM - CGar
Funny, cobble, before Home Despot opened, when I first moved out here in '96, I used to go to that now defunct garden center near BAM. It was "Midtown's Greenhouse Garden Center" or something like that. Nicest people. Great selection. And easy parking back then.
April 11, 2013 8:11 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
need dirt? dig up the mean old man's yard ;-)
April 11, 2013 8:12 PM - petebklyn
how much dirt does he need that he can't be bothered going to pick it up?
April 11, 2013 8:12 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
if you go to h.d., you'll find a ton of men with cars/vans who will be happy to drive you and the dirt home and lug it up to your place for a nice tip.
April 11, 2013 8:12 PM - Legion
...oh,
in that case,
hi.
April 11, 2013 8:15 PM - rf
Maybe you should bring Dave to evaluate the talent.
April 11, 2013 8:17 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yes, that was the place. When I had my garden years ago, near Pete, I used to get my dirt and mulch there.
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:17 PM
April 11, 2013 8:18 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
doc legion, can cold sores grow on the nose?
April 11, 2013 8:19 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
is there a test to find out if it's a cold sore?
April 11, 2013 8:19 PM - CGar
"need dirt? dig up the mean old man's yard ;-)"

LMAO. Funny, Snappy. Not to mention a great idea. Actually the guys to help me at Home Depot is a great idea.

Pedro, I have 5 huge planters and a ton of smaller pots. I just don't have the energy to carry however many bags of soil I'll need to fill those pots - as I recall, the 5 big pots take about 2 bags apiece.
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:19 PM
April 11, 2013 8:21 PM - petebklyn
yes , cold sores can grow on nose. but they usually appear in same place(s) as you have had b4.
April 11, 2013 8:22 PM - Partridge
I can't catch up today. I just have snippets.

CGar need/wants dirt.
Benson has a problem with Gino's but not Asti Spumonte Gardens.
Dona is loco.
Goyte is new to Benson even though we have talked about that song a million times on the OT.
Legion, Dibs and Etson agree on something Republican.
Slopey and I love Shannon's nursery.
BH is cooking but I'm not invited.

Anything else important?
April 11, 2013 8:22 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oh lord...nose zits...and now nose cold sores???
April 11, 2013 8:22 PM - DeLepp
just poured two colleagues into cab...should go home...andy said just one more...I'm quite lucky!
April 11, 2013 8:22 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
FUCK. is there a test to make sure that's what it is?
April 11, 2013 8:23 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
can you get one from blowing your nose too much?
April 11, 2013 8:24 PM - petebklyn
there is a brooklyn symphony orchestra concert this sunday for you culturally depraved at St Ann's.
http://www.brooklynsymphonyorchestra.org/events/haydn-stravinsky-mendelssohn/
April 11, 2013 8:25 PM - CGar
Haha, Pedro, I literally just got your email 2 seconds ago and just replied!
April 11, 2013 8:25 PM - petebklyn
if you have not had cold sores before -- it isn't one.
I'm not a doctor or herpes specialist so quit asking the questions. What diff does it make if cold sore or a non-cold sore?
April 11, 2013 8:25 PM - CGar
DeLepp, "just one more" for you or for him? Is he with you?? If he wants you to have one more and he's at home, you'd best rush home and make sure dave isn't there with him.
April 11, 2013 8:27 PM - petebklyn
I sent out days ago. I knew you lived way out on the western fringe of the neighborhood but I didnt think took that long to get there.
April 11, 2013 8:27 PM - Donatella
Cobble, isn't that crazy? Before the movie code of 1934, there were tons of wild, freaky movies (and cartoons) when all the crazy Mae West movies and lots of other off the wall things were produced. Once on Turner Classic Movies (R's favorite), there was this movie "Freaks" about a circus of um, developmentally disabled circus performers who gang up on a beautiful gymnast who tries to do them dirty. It was made before the "Code". After that things got a lot tamer and family friendly.
April 11, 2013 8:27 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yes, I think you grokked the key points, LP.
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:27 PM
April 11, 2013 8:27 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
treatment makes the difference. i've never had a cold sore before so i guess this ain't one. phew! rubbed my nose raw blowing it (damned allergies) and now i have 3 bumps there that are sore and red and puffy :-(
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:27 PM
April 11, 2013 8:27 PM - CGar
^^^I used to have 2 of the big pots on the top of the stoop, and the other 3 big pots spaced inside the garden level gate on Carroll Street. Every year I planted them with Geraniums, Vinca Vine and Dracena Spike. They looked really nice.
April 11, 2013 8:28 PM - petebklyn
andy looked like he got some sun in texas.
April 11, 2013 8:29 PM - petebklyn
I put my geraniums outside other day and now they are sunburned.
April 11, 2013 8:31 PM - Donatella

You can get a cold sore on your nose, Snappy. But there are different herpes viruses - sometimes shingles can show up on the face and it can hurt like hell and is dangerous. Does the pain from this radiate? If not then it may be herpes simplex and you can use abreva. Of course, what do I know?
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:31 PM
April 11, 2013 8:32 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
no radiation of pain. been using abreva, but it's not doing anything to it. i better not have herpes on my nose :-(
April 11, 2013 8:39 PM - petebklyn
did donatella ever dig up the canna last fall? does she have garden this year or does the tenant?
April 11, 2013 8:40 PM - petebklyn
if you haven't had cold sore before, I doubt you suddenly developed herpes simplex. Move to arizona and all will be better.
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:40 PM
April 11, 2013 8:41 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
It's just raw, wash it, and put some vaseline or lip balm, like blistex on it.
April 11, 2013 8:45 PM - petebklyn
I made dandelion greens last night. Quite tasty for those who don't like plain green vegetables.
Cooked with some anchovy, bread crumbs, grated parmesan.
April 11, 2013 8:47 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Sauteed? Or baked? Or just raw?
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:48 PM
April 11, 2013 8:47 PM - Donatella

Partridge, Dona is LOCA, not LOCO. Loco is for boys.

April 11, 2013 8:49 PM - petebklyn
I boiled the green a bit first. then sauteed to mix them together. Baked them to heat up at dinner time.
I think he liked them.
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:49 PM
April 11, 2013 8:49 PM - Donatella
The tenant has it and I dug one of them up and the other one got frozen, Pete. Those things were BIG!!!!
April 11, 2013 8:50 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
if i head to arizona, i'm gonna learn from bugs bunny's mistake and make that left at albequerque
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:50 PM
April 11, 2013 8:52 PM - Donatella

Ok, when you go to the opera, you have to cheer correctly.

A great male singer' performance "BRAVO"
A great female singer's performance "BRAVA"
A great performance by a group of women "BRAVE"
A great performance by a group of men or men and women together "BRAVI"


April 11, 2013 8:52 PM - Partridge
Si, loca en la cabeza. Yo recuerdo ahora.
Edited at April 11, 2013 8:52 PM
April 11, 2013 8:53 PM - Donatella

Si, si.
April 11, 2013 8:56 PM - CGar
dona, when the hombres in the blanco suits ring your bell, "open the door, and let 'em in", as Paul Simon would say.
April 11, 2013 8:57 PM - petebklyn
just sayin', you can get a big pot and put on stoop. Place a few annuals and the canna in it. Should get nice western afternoon sun.
April 11, 2013 8:59 PM - Donatella

R is really freaked out. He signed a document for his insurance company to say that he had no damage to his sailboat after Sandy. But he never removed the plastic wrap "protecting" the boat and then found a big crack in the stern yesterday when they unwrapped it. It will cost him 5-7,000 dollars to fix it. It is sickening because of course he SHOULD HAVE taken the wrap off. Which is what he is kicking himself for. Live and learn. He is new to owning a boat and I told him you just have to chalk it up to a learning experience. Look at how wise I am.
April 11, 2013 9:00 PM - Donatella
Ok, CGar, I could use a good rest.
Edited at April 11, 2013 9:00 PM
April 11, 2013 9:02 PM - etson
Why wouldn't the insurance cover it anyway?? Is it specifically for storm related damage?
Edited at April 11, 2013 9:02 PM
April 11, 2013 9:02 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Sounds very nice, a little bitter, or more mineral-ly like spinach?
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April 11, 2013 9:06 PM - Donatella
He signed a document requested by his insurance company stating that there was no damage to the boat since there did not appear to be any damage then and the boat was upright. But it was covered in shrink wrap and not fully visible. I started questioning him and saying he should go back to the insurance company and he got upset so I quit offering him my sage advice.
April 11, 2013 9:08 PM - Legion
...que paso aqui?
Me voy por un momento y estan hablando do Herpes de la nariz!

snappy,
pete, donatella and ditmas are correct on all counts.
We have a good medical team on the OT.
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April 11, 2013 9:13 PM - Partridge
Pero... adults can get their first sore where the skin is broken, right Legion?
April 11, 2013 9:18 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Boats, nothing but money and trouble. But soo fun.
April 11, 2013 9:18 PM - CGar
"Ok, CGar, I could use a good rest."

My gift to you, dona . . .
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April 11, 2013 9:22 PM - CGar
PB, did you ever see "Raiders of the Lost Ark"? Yes, I know you hate movies. Your avatar looks like one of the Nazis when he's melting . . .
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April 11, 2013 9:22 PM - Legion
Partridge,
it's usually a re-activated infection from nerves in the skin where the virus was lying dormant.
Comes out in response to stress or lowered immune response.
April 11, 2013 9:25 PM - Donatella
Looks cozy, CGar.

Re boats, if I had to spend serious money on something, I'd prefer it were on an appreciating asset (like a brownstone). Boats, cars..... they're toys. Of course, I won't tell him that.
April 11, 2013 9:26 PM - petebklyn
hardier than spinach I think.
April 11, 2013 9:29 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yes, tougher for sure, flavor-wise?
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April 11, 2013 9:30 PM - etson
You really have too much of a concentration on the Nazis.

It's Geoff Peterson from Craig Ferguson's show, which unfortunately I can only ever watch on YouTube,
April 11, 2013 9:33 PM - petebklyn
they are on the more bitter side. but not as much as broccoli rabe.
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April 11, 2013 9:34 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I love Craig Ferguson, I haven't been up late enough to see him since I started working again. I reaaaallly love Wavy...the Southern Crocodile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK15CeIDreo
April 11, 2013 9:35 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm sold, I'll give them a try. : )
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April 11, 2013 9:38 PM - petebklyn
do you have a 60's comparable to Craig Ferguson , so that I would understand the genre?
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April 11, 2013 9:38 PM - petebklyn
you sayin' you never had dandelions?

April 11, 2013 9:40 PM - CGar
"You really have too much of a concentration on the Nazis."

Concentration? Pun intended???
April 11, 2013 9:41 PM - CGar
Geoff Peterson is the melting Nazi??? Why can't you watch Craig Ferguson? They don't show it in that third world country in which you're currently residing?
April 11, 2013 9:42 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
i've got an idea for a new business. a traveling mommy service. she shows up at bedtime, gives you a cookie and a cup of warm milk, and when you are done she tucks you in and gives you a smooch on the forehead. out go the lights and she lets herself out after you fall asleep.
::is it obvious that i want a cookie, milk, a smooch and tucked in?::

:-)
April 11, 2013 9:42 PM - Partridge
Thanks, Legion.

Just getting some news about the building next door to my condo. We have been waiting to learn about demo and re-build plans. Seems they are almost ready to start and have approached us to discuss plans and sign mutual agreements. We knew it was coming but didn't know when. We need to try to work with each other to time our repairs and their new build logically.

Of course, I share a wall with the construction site. I sense more OT fodder.
April 11, 2013 9:42 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
i thought dandelions were too toxic to eat? how do you make yours?
April 11, 2013 9:43 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
that's not gonna be a fun construction process, part. how long will it take?
April 11, 2013 9:45 PM - petebklyn
not the flower (of course you woundn't know one if saw one). the green leaves.

April 11, 2013 9:47 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yes, I've never had dandelion greens.

"do you have a 60's comparable to Craig Ferguson , so that I would understand the genre?"

Rowan & Martin's Laugh-in, without the Martin (or maybe Rowan), and the Laugh-in, but plenty of other silly stuff and guests. 'K?
April 11, 2013 9:47 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
silly man, i can recognize one of those! so the leaf part is ok? you boil it?
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April 11, 2013 9:47 PM - petebklyn
is it a renovation - or total new construction where they need to excavate?
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April 11, 2013 9:48 PM - petebklyn
I boiled a bit, then sauteed with anchovy and shallots (most people would use garlic but garlic hates me more than you people do)
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April 11, 2013 9:48 PM - Partridge
Don't know yet. Often 18 months. We will know more soon. The good news thus far is that they are planning on building 5 townhouses with front and rear gardens. That'll be nicer than a giant building next door.
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April 11, 2013 9:48 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Easy way to prevent ritual impurity contracted from flying over cemeteries: wrap self in plastic bag on plane.

http://gothamist.com/2013/04/11/photo_orthodox_jewish_man_covers_hi.php
April 11, 2013 9:48 PM - etson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAHSUTB5BJc

It's on at 12.30am. If I am up that late I'm not watching TV.
April 11, 2013 9:49 PM - petebklyn
got it. Try the dandelions.....you'll see them in market this time of year. Can use on pasta also.
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April 11, 2013 9:50 PM - Partridge
Total re-do. Demo, foundations, buildings. They have "said" they will screw piles in NOT pound them. One can hope.
April 11, 2013 9:50 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
interesting. i'd probably stick to garlic and some lemon juice. i don't do the anchovy thing.
April 11, 2013 9:52 PM - etson
It's one of those shows where you have to get used to the in-jokes, which in this case have no ulterior meaning at all but just get funnier with repetition.
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April 11, 2013 9:53 PM - petebklyn
that would work, snappy. but some bread crumbs and grated parmesan is nice too.
April 11, 2013 9:54 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"...hates me more than you people do"

Hate is such a strong word...
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April 11, 2013 9:56 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"They have "said" they will screw piles in NOT pound them. One can hope."

I lived behind a building where they were pounding the piles, started every morning at 7:05, and I didn't have to wake up until 7:30 or so. And, as you all know...I am NOT a good morning person...
April 11, 2013 9:57 PM - rf
Partridge, wouldn't it be nice if the construction time aligned with the time needed for your crappy builder-sponsor to correct the problems in the building (or you and the board correct them with his money).
April 11, 2013 10:02 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
What happens when you eat garlic, Pete? What do you mean it hates you?
April 11, 2013 10:02 PM - petebklyn
I suffer. stomach burning. etc. etc.
April 11, 2013 10:04 PM - CGar
partridge, they're preparing to do the same thing on the Congress Street side of my building. Tear down 2 existing buildings and build 5 or so townhouses. No common wall though, and my apartment is above the construction site, but still. I knew this was coming when I bought. Will be nicer when it's all done. The demo and excavation are the worst parts. Once they start building, it goes up 1-2-3 and then most of the work is interior. I watched all this go on recently on Amity & Henry and on State & Hicks.
April 11, 2013 10:05 PM - CGar
"...hates me more than you people do"
"Hate is such a strong word..."

Lol to Pete and cobble. cobble, I love those ecards, but I'm shocked I haven't see that ONE!!
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April 11, 2013 10:05 PM - petebklyn
if gone most of the day -- usually not such a big deal the construction.
April 11, 2013 10:07 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
time to snore. nite everyone. sweet dreams to you all :-)
April 11, 2013 10:07 PM - CGar
Yeah, Pete, that's what I figure, too, but it will scare Salmonella.
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April 11, 2013 10:07 PM - Partridge
Well, not just nice, rf, but completely necessary. There are several factors. When will we have enough money to fix that shared wall? How much of the wall are THEY responsible for fixing? When will we no longer have access to that wall if we have the money to fix it?
April 11, 2013 10:08 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ouch, that's not good. Tough to eat some kinds of food, like italian, for instance.

I went through a phase over a span of years where I could not stand the smell, even a slight whiff, of garlic.
April 11, 2013 10:10 PM - Partridge
Great, CGar. We can commiserate and bitch and moan together!
April 11, 2013 10:10 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I thought you might like that one, CGar!
April 11, 2013 10:12 PM - Partridge
I just got the drawings for the houses. They look OK actually. Vertical living, each 4 floors. Only 14' wide though!!!
April 11, 2013 10:13 PM - rf
Maybe you could use the construction as a bargaining point with the sponsor? Surely it would be easier and cheaper to do at least that part of the work while the other side of the property line is being worked on, if not before.
April 11, 2013 10:13 PM - CGar
Yeah, partridge. My condo had tried to stop it, to no avail, and I can't think of any grounds. New townhouses will be an improvement over what's there. So long as they don't undermine our foundation. Funny (for me) in that I got outbid on one of the garden duplexes ("the one that got away") - I'd much rather be in my apartment looking down on the construction than having my garden abut the construction site.
April 11, 2013 10:13 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
G' nite, Snaps, don't worry about the boo-boo on your nose. It'll be better soon.
April 11, 2013 10:14 PM - CGar
Copyright infringement, cobble.
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April 11, 2013 10:14 PM - rf
14 feet wide? Are the new owners or tenants supposed to rappel up the front of the building to get to the 4th floor???
April 11, 2013 10:15 PM - CGar
partridge, you should check out the 4 new townhouses on Amity & Henry, surrounding the old Lamm Institute. Sounds like the same thing. A modern take on a traditional townhouse and very nicely executed. If you don't want to see them in person, you can visit them on the Internets over there. >>>
Edited at April 11, 2013 10:16 PM
April 11, 2013 10:16 PM - CGar
I have to join the exodus, walk Salmonella, and go to bed. Ny-tol.
Edited at April 11, 2013 10:16 PM
April 11, 2013 10:17 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
14 is narrow, but still nice, if well designed. I grew up in a 13 ft wide house.
Edited at April 11, 2013 10:23 PM
April 11, 2013 10:18 PM - Partridge
here they are.
April 11, 2013 10:19 PM - RowerChick
Dona,
My worry is not that you will kill fluffy grey things. I worry for the hipsters on wheels on Lafayette Ave.
April 11, 2013 10:21 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
What do you mean by copyright infringement? The card? Should I take it down? I'm not profiting from posting it, if anything it's free advertising!
April 11, 2013 10:22 PM - Partridge
rf, because our building is 100% sold, the sponsor is completely out of the picture. He has no rights, no say, no responsibilities. We just sue him for money period. We deal with the details.
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April 11, 2013 10:25 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Why the wacky windows?
April 11, 2013 10:30 PM - Partridge
Ask the architect why. He's designing, I guess.
April 11, 2013 10:30 PM - Donatella

Don't worry RC. I am against bike lanes, not cyclists and as far as grey furry things, if they are squirrels, so far I have just caught one in an ASPCA approved safe cage. And the exterminator just drove him to the Brooklyn Navy Yard and let him go. But I said nasty things to it.
April 11, 2013 10:33 PM - CGar
NO!! I mean the card company is infringing MY "You're dead to me" copyright!!!!! They ripped me off. I was robbed.
Edited at April 11, 2013 10:33 PM
April 11, 2013 10:34 PM - CGar
"And the exterminator just drove him to the Brooklyn Navy Yard and let him go."

And he found his way back home obviously.
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April 11, 2013 10:35 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
LOL! Yes, it's YOUR line.
April 11, 2013 10:36 PM - More4Less
some more $2M townhouses for 14'
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April 11, 2013 10:39 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Sorry, LP, rhetorical question.

How deep are they? 14 by what?
April 11, 2013 10:40 PM - Partridge
I'm sure more than that, M4L. 5 BR's + office, front, rear yards, roof terraces.
April 11, 2013 10:42 PM - Partridge
60' I'll post more views...
April 11, 2013 10:45 PM - Partridge
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April 11, 2013 10:46 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
60! Well, then, I wouldn't feel too sorry for them, that's a good amount of space. Our house was basically two rooms to a floor, and staircase at 40 deep.
April 11, 2013 10:47 PM - Partridge
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April 11, 2013 10:49 PM - etson
You should remind the exterminator that he's an exterminator. Not a vermin taxi service.
April 11, 2013 10:49 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
The side elevation is very odd to me.
April 11, 2013 10:50 PM - Partridge
Hard to read. 100' depth. rear yard and patio 30', 60' house, 10' front.
April 11, 2013 10:54 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Staircases don't seem to attach to the two front rooms? Is that what rf was remarking on?
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April 11, 2013 10:55 PM - Partridge
Yes, Cobble it looks very strange. Front rooms appear floating. Why floor wasn't drawn across from staircase?
April 11, 2013 10:55 PM - Partridge
jinx
April 11, 2013 10:57 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Stairwell seems like A LOT of wasted space.
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April 11, 2013 10:57 PM - CGar
"Not a vermin taxi service."

LMFAO, PB. (Yes, I know I signed off, but I'm responding to email since it isn't coming to my BB this week.)
April 11, 2013 10:58 PM - Donatella
"You should remind the exterminator that he's an exterminator. Not a vermin taxi service."

He told me it was against the law to for HIM to kill it but that I could kill it. How would I kill it? I considered strangling it, but thought better of it.

CGar, he not only made it home but I am sure that from his loins sprang a new generation.
April 11, 2013 10:58 PM - CGar
Agreed, cobble. It looks like a stairwell atrium. Very practical given the size of NYC housing.
April 11, 2013 11:01 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yes, and those teeny rooms, with the two, count 'em, two, big rooms? Weird.
April 11, 2013 11:01 PM - Partridge
only 4 br's. my mistake.
April 11, 2013 11:02 PM - Deleted
Argh. Drinks with the boss. And he drinks like a BOSS
April 11, 2013 11:04 PM - CGar
I was just about to post wondering where you were. I suspected alcohol was involved. Well, now that you're home safe, I can go to sleep.
April 11, 2013 11:05 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm sure the natural light will be fantastic...in the stairwell, between the giant skylight and all, but the back rooms...I dunno.
April 11, 2013 11:07 PM - Partridge
The way this is planned, in theory I could add one or two windows in my living room which would fall on the lot-line and overlook their garden/patio. Hmm. I wonder if that is permissible.
April 11, 2013 11:14 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Would you want to?
April 11, 2013 11:17 PM - Partridge
Depending on the cost, yes. I could really use more natural light. If they build a solid fence or wall across the side of the yard, I can't. Would need to have an agreement. Seems unlikely, just thinking.
April 11, 2013 11:18 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm also wondering where the bathrooms are, if you are making one of the front rooms a bedroom....a hike on the stairs? Dave will have conniptions! ; )
April 11, 2013 11:21 PM - Deleted
So I made the mistTake of eating a bowl of cereal while watching Jon Stewart's coverage of Paul at Howard. Lmaooo milk thru my nose PWNED.
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April 11, 2013 11:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
It was pretty funny! You ok?
April 11, 2013 11:27 PM - Deleted
Yeah. I've re cooperated. Stewart for mayor.
April 11, 2013 11:45 PM - Partridge
Info said 5 houses. I count 6.
April 11, 2013 11:50 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I have a notion that these are not final drawing?

Glad you're ok, DH! Love Stewart and cohorts!

Ok, must sleep MORE!

G'nite, peeps, G'nite, Eva, G'nite, lurkers.


April 11, 2013 11:54 PM - Partridge
Night all.