Wednesday OT
April 10, 2013 5:43 AM - pepper
This is the Gazi Husrev Begova Mosque, said to be the most significant Islamic building in Bosnia. It was originally built in 1530, but has been damaged and rebuilt many times since then. It's situated right in the middle of Old Town and the close quarters there make it really difficult to get a good angle for a photo, so I had to resort to google.

Bosnia is about 40% Muslim, 31% Orthodox, 15% Roman Catholic and 14% Other. Sarajevo, on the other hand, is estimated to be approx. 77% Muslim, 12% Orthodox, 8% Roman Catholic and 3% Other.

582 comments
April 10, 2013 5:58 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
beautiful! and i'd never have guessed that they have such a high Muslim population. have you had the opportunity to go inside the mosque?
#1
April 10, 2013 6:03 AM - pepper
No, unfortunately, I haven't. The times you can visit are severely restricted, and I never seem to get the timing right (nh). The 450 years spent under Ottoman rule resulted in the high Muslim population...
#2
April 10, 2013 6:05 AM - pepper
GM, by the way. :o)
#3
April 10, 2013 6:16 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
whooops...yes, gm! how do they say gm over there?
#4
April 10, 2013 6:18 AM - pepper
Dobro jutro...
Edited at April 10, 2013 6:18 AM
#5
April 10, 2013 6:46 AM - Partridge
Good morning.
#6
April 10, 2013 6:53 AM - pepper
Mornin' Ms. Partridge.
#7
April 10, 2013 7:10 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
dobro jutro!
#8
April 10, 2013 7:12 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
wait...even better, how do you say moron? i think we need to know how to say 'moron' in as many languages as possible :-)
#9
April 10, 2013 7:14 AM - pepper
Kreten, according to google translate. The beau is out running an errand. I'll see if he has a better translation when he gets back.
#10
April 10, 2013 7:16 AM - Partridge
The pear trees were barely unfurling yesterday morning and by the end of the day, they exploded!

Allergy time.

#11
April 10, 2013 7:17 AM - Arkady
Kreten! Not at all p.c.!
#12
April 10, 2013 7:26 AM - dibs
I didnt see any Asians or Latinos listed in those statistics. :(
#13
April 10, 2013 7:33 AM - Deleted
the first picture looks like an amazing fish tank.

and, i KNEW it. All it took for my sour mood to do a total 180 was to get some sun and go swimming in the ocean. I am in SUCH a good mood right now. I hope the weather is good again today so I can go back. The beach was packed yesterday, not a single moonface in sight, and everyone was in a great mood!

HELLO, SUMMER!


#14
April 10, 2013 7:35 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
kreten...awesome!
Edited at April 10, 2013 7:35 AM
#15
April 10, 2013 7:39 AM - Deleted
And to the ninnies who said you can't go swimming in the ocean this time of year. BOOOOOO. You can! You just can't linger in the ocean like you can in the middle of summer. It was invigorating to go in yesterday. I actually like the water when it's super cold. Can't stand water that feels like you are swimming in hot soup.


Edited at April 10, 2013 7:39 AM
#16
April 10, 2013 7:40 AM - pepper
No, Dave. Pretty much everyone is white here. The best you'll do is to get a swarthy complextion.
#17
April 10, 2013 7:41 AM - Deleted
I made a cabana for a fish in the sand yesterday!

Edited at April 10, 2013 7:41 AM
#18
April 10, 2013 7:43 AM - dibs
Looks like a fish out of water
#19
April 10, 2013 7:43 AM - Deleted
quote:
Pretty much everyone is white here.

Not me. I got tan as hell yesterday. Luckily I don't burn, but tan. I'm blacker than Beyonce right now.

#20
April 10, 2013 7:45 AM - Deleted
(I hope that didn't sound as offensive as I now think it may have) :-/

#21
April 10, 2013 7:45 AM - Donatella

Gladys, the Norway maple in the back yard, has a couple of puff balls of green at the end of its branches. In a day or two the entire tree will be green. I'm still coughing. 3+ weeks now.
Edited at April 10, 2013 7:45 AM
#22
April 10, 2013 7:48 AM - Donatella

I love it when you are concerned about being politically correct, rob.
#23
April 10, 2013 7:58 AM - Deleted
Well I don't want to offend anyone. Sometimes I get so giddy that I say stupid shit, but better shit than when I'm all frowny and miserable. I realize last week's flights of fantasy about Australia was the trail end of a winter of pure sun deficiency, death of my BFF, and general malaise.
Edited at April 10, 2013 7:58 AM
#24
April 10, 2013 8:04 AM - CGar
Oh, good grief.
#25
April 10, 2013 8:06 AM - dibs
Happy commute, CGar????
#26
April 10, 2013 8:07 AM - Slope4Eva
GM.
#27
April 10, 2013 8:13 AM - Deleted
Pinky Dinky II is the most amusing fish I have ever seen. She tries SO hard to entertain me. She's my only legit female fish though and she's kind of a runt. She appreciates everything I do for her, unlike Jamie Lee. Dudley and Charlize Theron are great fishes too, but they don't shower me with affection like Pinky Dinky II. (Yes, I sound like a crazy person. I don't really care though).


#28
April 10, 2013 8:14 AM - rf
Texas "economic miracle" on the backs of undocumented workers
http://www.npr.org/2013/04/10/176677299/construction-booming-in-texas-but-many-workers-pay-dearly
#29
April 10, 2013 8:16 AM - dibs
bill Gross turns positive on Treasuries because of the expected continued buying by the Japanese...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pimcos-gross-turns-bullish-us-100107348.html
#30
April 10, 2013 8:19 AM - dibs
Rf, if you dont think that happens everywhere then you are naive. NPR and you pick on Texas because you just cant bear that its Bushs home state, republican and growing faster than the country as a whole
Edited at April 10, 2013 8:20 AM
#32
April 10, 2013 8:19 AM - Deleted
She's great.


Edited at April 10, 2013 8:19 AM
#31
April 10, 2013 8:20 AM - Deleted
quote:
undocumented workers

ha

#33
April 10, 2013 8:21 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM

This cold is worse today.
#34
April 10, 2013 8:23 AM - Deleted
Cobble, you need Sun Therapy.


Edited at April 10, 2013 8:23 AM
#35
April 10, 2013 8:23 AM - petebklyn
probably allergies today
#36
April 10, 2013 8:24 AM - sixyearsandcounting
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22089457

"An official says Mali is to send the French president a replacement camel after the first, given to him as a gift, was eaten, Reuters reports.
Francois Hollande had left the creature with a family in Timbuktu for safekeeping, after it was presented to him by local residents in February.
But it was promptly slaughtered and used in a tagine.

During the young camel's handover ceremony, Mr Hollande had joked about using "it as much a I can as a means of transport" around the Parisian traffic jams."

French officials had originally planned to transport the animal to a zoo in France, but because of the complex logistics it was decided instead to entrust the beast to a local family.

"As soon as we heard of this, we quickly replaced it with a bigger and better-looking camel," Reuters quoted an unnamed Malian official as saying.

"The new camel will be sent to Paris. We are ashamed of what happened to the camel. It was a present that did not deserve this fate."
#37
April 10, 2013 8:27 AM - rf
Oh yes, Dave, every state has exactly the same situation with undocumented workers.

"Many of those workers have been in the U.S. for years, even decades. This critical mass of eager, mostly Hispanic workers means it's possible for a family from New York or California to move to Texas and buy a brand new, five-bedroom, 3,000-square-foot home for $160,000."
Edited at April 10, 2013 8:27 AM
#38
April 10, 2013 8:27 AM - Deleted
lol, six. The most ironic thing about the whole story is that french women are the most notorious for sporting camel toes.


#39
April 10, 2013 8:28 AM - petebklyn
does camel meat taste like horse meat?
#40
April 10, 2013 8:29 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Dobro jutro, pepper!

Isn't a dobro a musical instrument, what am I thinking of?
#41
April 10, 2013 8:30 AM - petebklyn
is new neighborhood moniker. downtown brooklyn
#42
April 10, 2013 8:30 AM - Partridge
Looks like it's going to rain, Cobble. Probably before 9pm I'd venture.
#43
April 10, 2013 8:33 AM - petebklyn
GS lowering the price target for gold. I guess the japanese not interested.
#44
April 10, 2013 8:33 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Really, LP? Huh.
#45
April 10, 2013 8:36 AM - petebklyn
where'd Pepper go? I wanted her to see this:
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/114-Dickinson-St_Utica_NY_13501_M48323-00151?source=web

House where I grew up is for sale. We sold about 10 years ago when my mother died. Next door neighbors - Bosnians bought it and renovated. Thought she might recognize the decoration style.
Edited at April 10, 2013 8:36 AM
#46
April 10, 2013 8:38 AM - Arkady
From PS Weather guy:

Today: Partly sunny, with a high near 75. North wind 8 to 10 mph becoming southeast in the afternoon.
Tonight: A chance of showers and thunderstorms, mainly after 8pm. Cloudy, with a low around 51. Southeast wind 8 to 10 mph becoming north after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 40%.
#47
April 10, 2013 8:42 AM - petebklyn
what % chance the meter reader will show up in next hour?
#48
April 10, 2013 8:44 AM - pepper
I'm here. I'm not sure that's really a style, pete. They do tend to like dark wood. And I guess the fabric bits all over the place is familiar. That empty room must be their prayer room...
#49
April 10, 2013 8:44 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
5 bedrooms, wow, Pete. Wait, how many kids were in your family?

It may be allergies AND this fracking COLD I have, thank you, Dr. Pete. Sheesh, everybody's a backseat driver (nh/nh).


#50
April 10, 2013 8:45 AM - Arkady
pete - I had a reading last month but it wasn't reported & I got a snarky robocall from ConEd about a new one yesterday. Guy never appeared so I just phoned it in.
Edited at April 10, 2013 8:45 AM
#51
April 10, 2013 8:46 AM - pepper
Raining here...
#52
April 10, 2013 8:47 AM - pepper
And now that it's afternoon, the greeting has switched to Dobar Dan.
#53
April 10, 2013 8:50 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
What's for breakfast, pepper? Aside from coffee, what might be typical?
#55
April 10, 2013 8:50 AM - petebklyn
the fabric hangings over the archways between rooms and all the window treatments got me.
In their renovations the eliminated quite a few windows. I guess they really don't like daylight.

Really was 4 bedroom house, 1 full bath and 1 half bath when we were there. (6 kids)Looks like they finished the basement and have a full bath there. 5th bedroom - I think was upstairs enclosed porch- expanded it and heated it.
They certainly spent lot of money on it . New garage also.
#54
April 10, 2013 8:55 AM - pepper
The few times I've stayed in a hotel here, I was served cheese, what I call "chicken bologna", hard-boiled egg, bread, butter and jam. So, more or less continental. And juice.
#56
April 10, 2013 8:58 AM - Arkady
Nice house, pete. I'm giggling over the thought that the realtors are going to suddenly have so many hits on the site - get all excited about selling but it's just us...
#57
April 10, 2013 9:00 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
No yogurt? Fruit?
#58
April 10, 2013 9:01 AM - sixyearsandcounting
I don't know what horse meat tastes like, Pete.
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:01 AM
#59
April 10, 2013 9:02 AM - petebklyn
another thing I found funny - looks as though the pictures/paintings are hung about 6 inches below ceiling level.

#60
April 10, 2013 9:03 AM - pepper
Yes, they eat lots of yogurt here, so I suppose that would be a breakfast food. And yes, they also have lots of fruit. The figs are wonderful here, and in Croatia.
#61
April 10, 2013 9:03 AM - Deleted
probably neighsty
#62
April 10, 2013 9:05 AM - Partridge
Nice house, Pete. The front and rear yards must have supplied plenty of fun for you kids. I can picture you in your lederhosen in the grassy yard.
#63
April 10, 2013 9:07 AM - dibs
rf...if you're being snarky then you are very naive. It's the same situation with a % of the illegals in every state. The rerason home prices are so much lower in Texas is because of the vast amount of cheap land.
#64
April 10, 2013 9:09 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Italians, in certain areas of Italy, are into horse meat. I stayed in a town that had it's own special horse meat butcher!
#65
April 10, 2013 9:10 AM - CGar
"Italians, in certain areas of Italy, are into horse meat."

This is why I'm not eating meat anymore. (After my steak last night, that is.)
#66
April 10, 2013 9:10 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Post that pic again, Pete, I love that photo!
#67
April 10, 2013 9:11 AM - petebklyn
pictures may be deceiving. yard is pretty small. fine for small children but we more likely played ball in street. or park on next block.
#68
April 10, 2013 9:13 AM - dibs
"we more likely played ball in street. or park on next block."

I bet there were old retired folks who hated that and always complained.

Get off my lawn....
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:13 AM
#70
April 10, 2013 9:13 AM - petebklyn
what photo?
#69
April 10, 2013 9:14 AM - sixyearsandcounting
DH, on horse meat Aye vote Neigh as well.
#71
April 10, 2013 9:14 AM - CGar
What does it take for people to figure out that I am NOT chatty in the morning??? I try to be polite, but, really, I just want to be left alone to have my second cup of coffee and settle in.

Also, I think my right arm is shorter than my left. Has anyone noticed that???
#72
April 10, 2013 9:15 AM - CGar
partridge, pear trees. Got it. Where's that picture, partridge? Columbia Street?
#73
April 10, 2013 9:16 AM - dibs
"Also, I think my right arm is shorter than my left. Has anyone noticed that???"

It seems to have no problem getting the cocktail glass up to your mouth.
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:17 AM
#76
April 10, 2013 9:16 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
The kid pic of you in the leiderhosen and cap! I LOVE that photo.
#74
April 10, 2013 9:16 AM - petebklyn
it could be a food stable in some cultures.
#75
April 10, 2013 9:17 AM - Arkady
Here's where I grew up in DC. My grandparents bought it new for $8,000 I think & mymother sold it in '65 for $45,000.
http://www.trulia.com/homes/District_Of_Columbia/Washington/sold/4644-900-Longfellow-St-NW-Washington-DC-20011
#77
April 10, 2013 9:18 AM - dibs
Imagine the jokes if CGar grew up on Longfellow St!!!!!!
#78
April 10, 2013 9:18 AM - petebklyn
I don't have that pic on this computer.
#79
April 10, 2013 9:19 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
No. I can't say that I have noticed that your right arm is shorter than your left.
#80
April 10, 2013 9:20 AM - More4Less
I'm sure the Chinese would eat horse and camel meat if such selections were available - ie as we eat anything & everything
#81
April 10, 2013 9:20 AM - Partridge
5th Ave, PS.
#82
April 10, 2013 9:20 AM - CGar
"Gladys, the Norway maple in the back yard"

[I think we need to stage an intervention for donatella. She's really gone round the bend.]
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:20 AM
#83
April 10, 2013 9:20 AM - Partridge
Your right arm is DEFINATELY shorter than my left.
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:20 AM
#84
April 10, 2013 9:21 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
::tee hee::
#85
April 10, 2013 9:22 AM - CGar
cobble, my cold/flu/allergies, or some combo, lingered forever this year. I truly don't think it ever went away.
#86
April 10, 2013 9:22 AM - pepper
My left leg is longer than my right leg.
#87
April 10, 2013 9:22 AM - Deleted
LOL
#88
April 10, 2013 9:22 AM - dibs
What a flambouyant young man.
#89
April 10, 2013 9:23 AM - More4Less
most people have different length with their arms and legs - just a matter of how much
#90
April 10, 2013 9:23 AM - Arkady
My legs are 'just' the right length to reach the ground.
#91
April 10, 2013 9:24 AM - More4Less
who's the kid?
#92
April 10, 2013 9:24 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm guessing his right arm, and possibly his left, are shorter than my right arm, and both of my arms could conceivably be shorter than both of LP's arms.
#93
April 10, 2013 9:24 AM - petebklyn
the house on 9th with the pickup truck in side yard... or the opposite with wrap-around porch.
#94
April 10, 2013 9:25 AM - Arkady
Wrap around porch.
#95
April 10, 2013 9:25 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Thanks, Snaps! I LOVE that pic, Pete!
#96
April 10, 2013 9:27 AM - petebklyn
yeah snaps. thanks for nothing.
#97
April 10, 2013 9:28 AM - Slopefarm
"Gladys, the Norway maple in the back yard"

"[I think we need to stage an intervention for donatella. She's really gone round the bend.]"

Agreed. For dona: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn8YubD01sk
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:28 AM
#98
April 10, 2013 9:28 AM - More4Less
allergies still kicking my ass but I'm now coping with it better
#99
April 10, 2013 9:28 AM - More4Less
that kid is pete?
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:28 AM
April 10, 2013 9:29 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
:-)
April 10, 2013 9:30 AM - Slopefarm
It can't be Pete as a child. There's a car in the photo.
April 10, 2013 9:30 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yes, sweet little Pete!
April 10, 2013 9:32 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
lol slopey!
April 10, 2013 9:32 AM - petebklyn
love wraparound porches. And the decorative detail on outside still seems to be there. Obviously far pricier neighborhood
than mine. I think my parents paid 17K in early 60's. And we sold for 25k to the neighbor(needing much work). I doubt they will get 100k for it now.
April 10, 2013 9:34 AM - Arkady
I was held hostage by a squirrel at the end of that porch when I was 3 .
April 10, 2013 9:36 AM - CGar
"Yes, sweet little Pete!"

Back to bed, cobble. You're obviously delirious, as "sweet" is not a word anyone would use to describe Pete.
April 10, 2013 9:36 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
i think the squirrel is the official nemesis of the plusa organization.
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:36 AM
April 10, 2013 9:40 AM - Donatella


Well, I named the tree Gladys so I would be less inclined to hate it. Thanks for the You Tube of Clint Eastwood singing to the trees, Slopey. He is definitely worse off than I am, but I'm getting there. Gladys, by the way, has provided the global headquarters for Squirrel Nation. She also produces more trash than you can believe and participates in every storm of every kind, requiring me to pay up for each one.

I should have named her Mary. I actually don't like the name Gladys.
April 10, 2013 9:40 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Whatever you think of the politics...

http://www.guns.com/2013/04/08/a-member-of-mayors-against-illegal-guns-arrested-for-firing-handgun-at-underage-male-during-sexual-encounter-video/
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:40 AM
April 10, 2013 9:42 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Except that the article PWNs itself. The headline suggests the "underage" male was under the age of consent, but then we learn that he was 20 and the mayor tried to serve him alcohol.
April 10, 2013 9:42 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
sounds like gladys needs to meet a chainsaw.
April 10, 2013 9:45 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Judging from the comments about Pete's age, that photograph must be a daguerreotype. But I didn't realize they had those in the 16th century.
April 10, 2013 9:45 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Why haven' t you cut it down, dona?
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:45 AM
April 10, 2013 9:45 AM - petebklyn
photoshop
April 10, 2013 9:49 AM - dibs
He's "under age" for alcohol consumption.
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:49 AM
April 10, 2013 10:01 AM - Donatella
Cobble, cutting it down would cost 4,000+ dollars. Plus it sucks up all the hot air from the neighborhood and produces oxygen. So it does something good.
April 10, 2013 10:01 AM - petebklyn
later folks. meter reader come and gone. I did not try to serve him alcohol or proposition him nor hold him hostage and pull out my guns.
April 10, 2013 10:02 AM - petebklyn
could you plant a few trees on the OT? well, maybe you'd need a forest to suck up all the hot air here.
April 10, 2013 10:09 AM - dibs
BEWARE----CUIDADO-----ACHTUNG-----

If you really don't want to have to deal with the USPS on package deliveries and are using FedEx to have something delivered, FedEx SMARTPOST hands packages off to your local post office and then you have to deal with their inefficiencies.

Wasn't a big deal for me as this was the Provincetown post Office and they are small, efficient and asked me if I wanted them to hold it or deliver it any any special day....but you won't even be able to get a Brooklyn PO to find it if they attempt delivery and don't.
April 10, 2013 10:11 AM - Slopefarm
"ACHTUNG"?
April 10, 2013 10:15 AM - dibs
It got your attention.
April 10, 2013 10:15 AM - sixyearsandcounting
"He's "under age" for alcohol consumption."

Yes, I noted that. But putting "underage" and "sexual encounter" together in a headline lead one to conclude he's a pedophile or something. And many of the commenters concluded precisely that.
April 10, 2013 10:18 AM - sixyearsandcounting
"ACHTUNG"

We always knew you were a Nazi, Dibs.

Countdown to the anti-semitic urinal picture...
April 10, 2013 10:20 AM - dibs
I'll refrain from posting it untilI get back to The Squealing Pig in 2 weeks. Then it's just appropriate, like the cleaning up of the yard, etc.
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:20 AM
April 10, 2013 10:21 AM - Slopefarm
"It got your attention."

Yes, I've already packed my bags, pawned the candlesticks, and obtained a visa under an assumed name.

April 10, 2013 10:22 AM - Deleted
dibs posting misleading articles? NO WAY
April 10, 2013 10:24 AM - dibs
Pfizer (PFE) announced its investigational compound palbociclib (PD-0332991), an oral and selective inhibitor of cyclin dependent kinases (CDK) 4 and 6, has received Breakthrough Therapy designation by the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for the potential treatment of patients with breast cancer.
April 10, 2013 10:26 AM - Deleted
lol - what about all the breast cancer meds being used in europe that the fda won't approve here?
April 10, 2013 10:26 AM - Deleted
quote:
Here's where I grew up in DC. My grandparents bought it new for $8,000 I think & mymother sold it in '65 for $45,000.

nice! back in 1986 or so my grandparents were looking to buy a house. I want to say there was a house were looking at in north jersey for 4000 dollars? Perhaps the loan was for 4000 dollars? No clue, but they didnt get approved for the loan. I remember being SO excited that we were going to buy a house. Whole lotta shit went down that year, we wound up moving into a basement apartment, and then a few years later wound up moving into the projects. Which, im sorry, but it SUCKED. I made a big stink about living in the projects (these were shitty projects). I told all my teachers in school how much I hated living in the projects. Even the school nurse. I said I can't be asked to be living in the projects! I swear, it was really fucking with my head. Not that I have issues with people who live in the projects or anything, but I didn't enjoy it. The things I saw could not be unseen. My two year long hissyfit wound up getting us a nice apartment in, well, the projects, but it didn't feel like it cuz it was a lot nicer. Also my two year hissyfit brought us from living in a shitty 2 bedroom apartment (tiny bedrooms, but I had the master bedroom cuz, well, I deserved it) into a really swank (for the time) two bedroom apartment with a garage and it was SO much nicer. I finally was at peace with myself again. I truly hated 5th - 7th grade. So perhaps I lived there three years, not two. 8th grade was fine (minus the bout of tricholmania I had) and then high school was very nice. I thought High School would be a disaster, but it wasn't. I had so many nice teachers who seemed to actually care.
April 10, 2013 10:27 AM - dibs
The Yen is going to make another run at 100, probably sell off and then go right through it to 105-110.
April 10, 2013 10:28 AM - dibs
If the FDA won't approve them, there has to be a reason. they are very open to virtually any cancer treatments these days.

Instead of just throwing out some unsubstantiated broad generalization, why don't you look up some facts, dumbass
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:29 AM
April 10, 2013 10:28 AM - More4Less
oh yeah, weiner likely to join in on the mayoral race.
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:28 AM
April 10, 2013 10:28 AM - rf
I grew up in a house like this (Levitt house in Hicksville). It cost $7900 new, my parents bought it 2 years old for $8900 and my dad sold it for $100k in 1984 after my mother died (handyman's special for sure).
April 10, 2013 10:30 AM - Deleted
did dibs just advocate for gov't regulation?


April 10, 2013 10:32 AM - Deleted
well i'm just reiterating the opinions of my mom's sloan kettering oncologists for breast cancer. but wtf do i know?
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:32 AM
April 10, 2013 10:32 AM - Deleted
Rf;

Yes, that explains why Texas' economy is doing so well.

Some people try to study success and learn. Others try to convince themselves that another person's or entity's success came due to some combination of luck, favoritism, illegal doings, whatever.
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:32 AM
April 10, 2013 10:33 AM - Deleted
Ha. Thinking about it now, they used to ship me off in the summers. I would just randomly be with extended family members (my grandmother had 13 brothers and sisters and my grandfather had like 10). Those projects years I was shipped off to Cape Cod to my grandmother's brother's baby momma's house. She was a waitress at a clam shack. All the adults in that household seemed like they were cokeheads and my cousin who was a year younger than me told everyone that I was gay! I didn't even KNOW I was gay yet! When I finally came out to my grandmother she was like oh I knew you were SOOOOOOOOOOO gay from the day you were born :-/
April 10, 2013 10:33 AM - dibs
Well why don't you tell us about those drugs and why the FDA hasn't approved them????????? I suspect the makers never did trials here.
April 10, 2013 10:36 AM - rf
DH, sorry!
April 10, 2013 10:38 AM - Deleted
fuck if i know. bottom line according to a leading doctor in the field, there's more effective, safe drugs being used overseas
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:38 AM
April 10, 2013 10:39 AM - dibs
Benson...did you see this article??? Peter Orszag was once Obama's head of the OMB. Now he's criticizing wealthy, educated people for living longer and how that's not fair for the not-so-wealthy.......

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-02/be-rich-be-smart-live-longer.html

point is that what Orszag did say was that people with intellectual and financial resources can directly purchase life-extending treatments and procedures, but what he disingenuously (or lazily) left out was the very obvious idea that people of lesser intellect and with fewer resources sometimes make very bad life decisions, like, to smoke, overeat, abuse substances, or engage in behavior like, say, texting while driving. The modern social libertarian question that is being asked constantly these days is: should people be allowed to make those poor decisions, but in the context of this article, have the equality police really advanced to a stage where people are seriously proposing that we all enjoy equal amounts of life?


April 10, 2013 10:39 AM - Deleted
which fits in to your gov't regulation sucks theme - but you aren't really for no gov't regulation - just no gov't regulation in industries where it will help your portfolio.
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:39 AM
April 10, 2013 10:41 AM - dibs
Well, of course I'm sorry to hear about your mother. Cancer IS terrible. There are a lot of treatments being used overseas, some probably safe, others not so much. The rules are the rules and in the case of the FDA, have largely served us well. Drug companies know what the rules are and it's a pretty level playing field.
April 10, 2013 10:42 AM - dibs
Pretty much every business needs SOME regulation. I own a lot of pharmaceutical stocks and my larger positions (nh) are in very small one drug speculative pharmaceutical stocks awaiting approval, so yes, looser FDA regs would help my portfolio but I don't really advocate for them
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:44 AM
April 10, 2013 10:44 AM - Slopefarm
Where do you get that he is "criticizing" anyone in that article?
April 10, 2013 10:44 AM - Deleted
Okay, seriously... having this day off work. There's like 20 barking dogs in my building. They all seem to be barking at each other. Fish don't make any noise, and that's why I <3 them. They are kept in water, and you don't need to spend a gazillion dollars on them. When they get sick you can just flush them down the toilet (tho honestly, I have yet to have a sick fish, barring minus Jamie Lee?) Plus you don't have to pick up their poop! they just poop in the water and it seems like it never happened. That's amazing. Imagine if humans could do that? (I guess mermaids do?)

Ew, now I just grossed myself out thinking of all the things that poop in the ocean :-/
April 10, 2013 10:45 AM - Deleted
i don't trust the FDA as they relate to drug companies. how much nasty shit gets released here that's later pulled? then you hear about stuff being used over seas that is somehow not suitable for here.

mom is fine and has been in remission for a long time
April 10, 2013 10:47 AM - Donatella
dh, that's terrible; good vibes to your mother. Sloan Kettering is the best.


April 10, 2013 10:47 AM - Deleted
Hey, speaking of stocks. Just got my 401K report.... didnt open it until just now.

quarter to date: 6.12%
5 year - 6.38%
1 year - 10.91%

that's not bad right?
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:47 AM
April 10, 2013 10:48 AM - dibs
"criticizing" as a class....more class warfare. His kind just can't bear to see people succeed and get what they want. I bet he has a fat government pension too with full health care benefits. What a disingenuous hypocrite
April 10, 2013 10:48 AM - Donatella
glad to hear that, dh.


Edited at April 10, 2013 10:48 AM
April 10, 2013 10:49 AM - dibs
rob, DOW was +11.2% in 1Q so you are underperforming, and shouldn't be.
April 10, 2013 10:51 AM - Donatella

That's good to know about FEDEX "SMARTPOST". It seems that some Post Offices are just fine, filled with courteous, helpful and efficient people. Mine.... is not. I get very agitated whenever I have to go there. For good reason.
April 10, 2013 10:52 AM - Deleted
quote:
"criticizing" as a class....more class warfare. His kind just can't bear to see people succeed and get what they want. I bet he has a fat government pension too with full health care benefits. What a disingenuous hypocrite

If my grandmother didn't get my grandfather's pension when he died she would have been FUCKED. Also his social security benifits. Not everyone on this Planet can plan for their future via the stock market and savings.


Edited at April 10, 2013 10:52 AM
April 10, 2013 10:53 AM - Slopefarm
I think you are seriously overreading the article. He is noticing a correlation in demographic trends. Nothing in the article's tone, analysis or prescriptions (actually, he does not offer prescriptions) suggests that he is unhappy at their good fortune. He is noting that the two factors appear to be mutually reinforcing, something you might want to know if you were concerned about and might want to address shorter life expectancy among the less advantaged. It also does not mean that there are not many other factors.
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:53 AM
April 10, 2013 10:54 AM - dibs
Dona...I'll look into SMARTPOST when I'm in P-Town and can talk to the friendly FedEx delivery guy. i may even invite him in for some alcohol and to show him my guns.

I'm guessing that it's really used only for smaller/rural towns but who knows.
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:54 AM
April 10, 2013 10:54 AM - Donatella
I talked to the guy taking care of my retirement stuff and had him up the exposure to equities. This is a breakout and I am fine with reacting to it.
April 10, 2013 10:55 AM - Deleted
quote:
rob, DOW was +11.2% in 1Q so you are underperforming, and shouldn't be.

I don't know what that means :(
April 10, 2013 10:56 AM - Donatella

Spoken like a smart consumer, dibs. Let me know how it goes.
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:56 AM
April 10, 2013 10:57 AM - MontroseMorris
Wow, Dave, you sure extrapolated much more out of that article than the author wrote. In fact, your take on it is not even mentioned in the article. Do you have the invisible ink version, or are you just seeing what you want to see to prop up your preconceived notions about what the man thinks?
Edited at April 10, 2013 10:57 AM
April 10, 2013 10:59 AM - MontroseMorris
"Not everyone on this Planet can plan for their future via the stock market and savings."

Rob is certainly right on that one.
April 10, 2013 11:01 AM - dibs
If you read any of his other articles you see where he's coming from as a "journalist" with a left agenda. it doesn't take much reading between lines to understand.
Edited at April 10, 2013 11:01 AM
April 10, 2013 11:01 AM - Slope4Eva
Packing up and heading to the Slope for a few days. Dad's having his surgury at 11 (now, if on schedule). Will go check on Juan (who fell out of bed during the night, he's fine they said), then going to see Dad. We'll stay with Mom till he gets home, and, maybe a few days after. Never a dull moment!!

My posting will be spotty, but I'll need a release once in a while. Feel better Cobble, Dona. Good vibes being sent to RF's Dad, and Kazoo's Mom.
April 10, 2013 11:02 AM - MontroseMorris
Oh, so he didn't actually SAY what you said he said, you ASSUMED it, because of other things he's said, somewhere else, about other subjects. Gotcha.
Edited at April 10, 2013 11:02 AM
April 10, 2013 11:03 AM - DeLepp
c-gar, how was S&W?
April 10, 2013 11:04 AM - dibs
"Not everyone on this Planet can plan for their future via the stock market and savings."

No, but when your 401k isn't invested properly you should take notice and do something about it.


If you list the fund names I can tell you what I think is right/wrong with it. Certainly ONE QUARTER's performance shouldn't drive the whole investment strategy but that was one of the strongest quarters we've ever had and, at your age, your investments should be positioned to do even better, with higher risk. Something's wrong.
April 10, 2013 11:04 AM - Deleted
Good luck, Eva. Will say a prayer for them when I am swimming in the ocena in a few hours. *hugs*

April 10, 2013 11:05 AM - dibs
Just like I know where your plathering will go once you start, from all the other drivel that you post, MM!!!!!!!!! :-P
April 10, 2013 11:07 AM - Slope4Eva
Thanks, Rob. Have fun. I felt a renewal with the nice weather yesterday, too.
April 10, 2013 11:07 AM - dibs
Dona, I'm pretty much fully invested, and will stay that way even though I think we are going to have a correction here. it's overdue. My IRA is very defensive (high divis) and should outperform in a correction.
April 10, 2013 11:11 AM - Deleted
I've taken some profits, as it seems to me that the market is a bit frothy. Nonetheless, my portfolio is still long on equities.
April 10, 2013 11:12 AM - Deleted
quote:
No, but when your 401k isn't invested properly you should take notice and do something about it.

So, tell me old Wise One, what should I be doing about it? What should I be investing in? 401K's are total shams anyway, it's just part of peoples paychecks being let put to people who like to play around with other peoples' money. SCAM x 100. So, tell me, what SHOULD I be investing in? I think you are a very smart person Dave, and financially you seem astute, but you are very clueless about every day folk. Not everyone can do the things that you do financially. Most people don't give a crap about investments and long term gains when they are more worried about putting food on their table. You seem to put down people like that. The thing is that we are ALL lucky, (people posting on this website) in some form or another. It's actually nauseating when you boast about your four houses, four boyfriends, and your ginormous dildo collection. Sometimes I think you should learn to take a step back, accept how fortunate you are, and stop hating on people with moderate means.


April 10, 2013 11:15 AM - dibs
You have to provide me with the list of funds that you can buy and a list of the ones that you own.

If you think it's a scam or a sham then don't put monry in iy. Spend that money on cigs and 40s. People with that sort of attitude don't need to take responsibilty anymore since the government will provide everything for them, it would seem.
Edited at April 10, 2013 11:15 AM
April 10, 2013 11:15 AM - rf
Dave, do you manage the investments of individuals, for a fee?
April 10, 2013 11:16 AM - Slopefarm
Dave, his 401(k) may not be all equities (and probably shouldn't be). You need to see how it is invested and then compare each component to its benchmark. Dow isn't necessarily the right benchmark for his whole 401(k).
April 10, 2013 11:17 AM - Deleted
Rob;

I, Dave and others here have spent a lot of time advising you on how to improve your lot, and most of the time you just spurn it. Stop hating on Dave because of his good fortune. Channel your energy into learning from success, instead.
April 10, 2013 11:18 AM - Deleted
quote:
Spend that money on cigs and 40s.

You're a douchebag. And on that, I am outta here. Like a legit boardacide. Hello, Summer!

*rob*

April 10, 2013 11:18 AM - dibs
No, I don't, rf. I'm not licensed to do it. And I'm too lazy now to get the licenses...Series 65 or CFP. I'd have to manage a fair amount of assets at 1% fee to generate enough fees to make it worth it and going out looking for the assets and marketing isn't something I'm interested in.

I have provided some people with all my ideas that I actually own though.
April 10, 2013 11:19 AM - Deleted
Rob;

One more thing. It is total BULLSHIT to put yourself in the category of someone worrying about putting food on their table. Someone who spends money on cigarettes and lives in Park Slope is not in that category.
April 10, 2013 11:19 AM - dibs
I know that, Slopey. it was a starting point, which he said he didn't even understand that.
April 10, 2013 11:20 AM - dibs
What's the difference between a "boardicide" and a "blogicide?"
April 10, 2013 11:21 AM - dibs
If I sound blunt, so be it. I don't have the patience for long drawn out pitiful handholding when it comes to straightforward investment advice which, you can take or leave.
Edited at April 10, 2013 11:23 AM
April 10, 2013 11:21 AM - CGar
"ACHTUNG".

Nazi.

Edited at April 10, 2013 11:21 AM
April 10, 2013 11:22 AM - Deleted
yeah like how much a month do u think rob spends on booze and cigs, 600, 700??
April 10, 2013 11:22 AM - dibs
My that was a LONNNNNGGGGGG commute, CGAr. Just getting in?????? trouble on the stairs again?????
Edited at April 10, 2013 11:22 AM
April 10, 2013 11:24 AM - dibs
I bet at least 300-400. I'm not advocating cutting back on the liquid enjoyment, just the cigs, which are far more expensive, make you smell like shit and are far worse for his health
Edited at April 10, 2013 11:26 AM
April 10, 2013 11:24 AM - Slopefarm
"Sometimes I think you should learn to take a step back, accept how fortunate you are, and stop hating on people with moderate means."

Um, he was trying to help you, rob, so your retirement account would earn more money for you.
April 10, 2013 11:30 AM - CGar
"c-gar, how was S&W?"

DeLepp, thanks, Smith & Wollensky was excellent (STFU, Arkady, we know, we know, Sparks is the best), and neither Mr. Dahill nor I had been there in years.

We started with 3 kinds of oysters and sliced tomatoes and bufala mozzarella. I had the sirloin, Adam had the NY cut sirloin (on the bone), and our offline friend had the filet. And we shared creamed spinach and hashed browns and bourbon Pecan pie for dessert.

Only 2 bottles of wine, as I just finished chairing my monthly 150-person meeting, and I had to get a good night's sleep and be up and in the office at the crack of dawn.
Edited at April 10, 2013 11:31 AM
April 10, 2013 11:31 AM - Arkady
dibs - I disagree w/ you about FDA. They do good things but acceptance of new drugs & NDAs is often political. There have been several treatments available in Europe that were delayed if not kiboshed here for no good scientific reasons. It's likely that today penicillin would have a hard time getting approval because of reported adverse reactions in people who are allergic to it. Our version of chicken pox vaccination is not as good as the European one.
April 10, 2013 11:32 AM - Arkady
Were there any tables of women only, CG?
April 10, 2013 11:35 AM - MontroseMorris
I can see your drivel a mile away, too, Dave. So there!!!
April 10, 2013 11:37 AM - Slopefarm
Farmhand's been complaining of a few kids who smoke who are in her homeroom. She says they really stink. She and her friends are trying to figure out if it's cigs or pot these kids are smoking. I'm happy she's nearing the end of 8th grade and still quite unfamiliar with the smell of pot.
Edited at April 10, 2013 11:37 AM
April 10, 2013 11:38 AM - CGar
"Yes, I've already packed my bags, pawned the candlesticks, and obtained a visa under an assumed name."

LMFAO. I hope we end up in the same barracks at the concentration camp, Skippy.
April 10, 2013 11:40 AM - CGar
"My that was a LONNNNNGGGGGG commute, CGAr. Just getting in??????"

dave, you NAZI JACKASS, I was posting from work at 9:10am.
April 10, 2013 11:41 AM - dibs
My attic in Bucks County doesn't have so much room in it anymore what with the new HVAC system up there. Just sayin, CGar.
April 10, 2013 11:42 AM - CGar
Not that I noticed, Arkady, but plenty of women there. Was packed.
April 10, 2013 11:43 AM - dibs
The S&W on 3rd AVE????
April 10, 2013 11:43 AM - CGar
"My attic in Bucks County doesn't have so much room in it anymore"

Then I'd suggest you find a new drinking buddy and someone else to keep the Unmentionables List, Herr Goebbels.
April 10, 2013 11:43 AM - DeLepp
haha dibs!
April 10, 2013 11:43 AM - Slopefarm
Why on earth would a Jew hide in a nazi's attic?
Edited at April 10, 2013 11:43 AM
April 10, 2013 11:45 AM - Deleted
Duke's old dog walker was just here. She showed me her new tattoo. :)


Edited at April 10, 2013 11:45 AM
April 10, 2013 11:47 AM - dibs
I like the script. Who did her tattoo??? :(
April 10, 2013 11:47 AM - CGar
Yes, dave, S&W on 49th & 3rd.
April 10, 2013 11:49 AM - Slopefarm
Now that's creepy. We're joking about nazi stuff and rob posts a picture of a forearm tattoo.
April 10, 2013 11:50 AM - Slopefarm
Maybe it's a sign we shouldn't joke about this stuff.
April 10, 2013 11:50 AM - Deleted
quote:
She says they really stink.

I can think of like 20 things that stink too. More than cigs. Newsflash, EVERYONE STINKS!


April 10, 2013 11:51 AM - CGar
"Who did her tattoo???"

Heinrich Himmler.
April 10, 2013 11:51 AM - dibs
The French stink.
April 10, 2013 11:51 AM - Deleted
quote:
I like the script. Who did her tattoo??? :(


She said she got it for free somewhere. I am going to get a matching one. When she gets back with new dog I am going to invite her into my bedroom to meet my fishes.

*cleaning up*
April 10, 2013 11:51 AM - Donatella
Dave, my portfolio has been too conservative. I have a good percentage in REITs which have been yielding 7% but the bond/equity mix too conservative. He is fixing it.

rob, unlike a lot of people, you have a pretty good handle on your daily budget, i.e. where all your money goes and you pay your bills and have a good credit rating. The idea is to extend that thinking to the future. If you can take just a little more money a month and put it in your 401K, the chances are you can retire with a nice amount of money. You don't have to be making a fortune now to retire with a nice pile of dough.
April 10, 2013 11:56 AM - CGar
"Maybe it's a sign we shouldn't joke about this stuff."

Edited at April 10, 2013 11:56 AM
April 10, 2013 11:57 AM - dibs
I have a lot of REITs and MLPs as well. They did very poorly in the 4Q when there was all that uncertainty about taxes but rebounded nicely in 1Q....outlook for gas prices helped too.


Edited at April 10, 2013 11:57 AM
April 10, 2013 11:57 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
A tattoo, wow. If you weren't an autosexual, I'd tell you to marry that girl.
April 10, 2013 11:58 AM - CGar
Personally, I think "Himmler's" would be a funny name for a tattoo parlour, but I suspect some people would think it un-PC.
April 10, 2013 12:00 PM - dibs
So here's my dilemma....it's getting a bit too warm to continue to wear my felt fedora but it's too early to switch to the Panama hat even though I did see someone wearing one just this morning. I'm leaving tomorrow and won't be back until May 1 or so and the official day to start wearing them is May 15 so I probably won't get called out for that faux pas here in NYC until early MAy. I was surprised to see that dapper gentleman wearing his Panama hat this morning. But it is fucking 80 and sunny.
Edited at April 10, 2013 12:00 PM
April 10, 2013 12:01 PM - Slopefarm
"I am going to invite her into my bedroom to meet my fishes."

I'm betting that's the euphemism we hear in the next political sex scandal, replacing "hiking the appalachian trail"

April 10, 2013 12:07 PM - Slope4Eva
Oh boy, Dave, sorry for the dilemma. I do have a question though. I noticed the other night, both you and Benson left your hats on in the bar. Aren't non-Jewish gentlemen supposed to remove their hats?

Assuming you're both gentlemen, and, I believe you both are.
April 10, 2013 12:09 PM - Deleted
Speaking of gas prices....I had not realized how cheap natural gas has become until a recent analysis I performed..

I recently did some analysis for my condo of how much energy is "lost" via our building's common exhaust fan. To calculate it, I used the average heating and cooling load for the NYC area, expressed as degree-days. For NYC, the heating load is about 4 times larger than the cooling load. Yet, despite this load ratio, the cost of the AC enery lost(via electricity) was TWICE that of the heat (via natural gas).

If I were the natural gas companies, I would be screaming this type of fact from the rooftops. This represents an enormous economic value. They should throw the ball into the environmentalist's court, and let them argue aginst this wealth creation, at a time when our economy is shaky. Moreover, this is American-produced energy that will improve our security by lessening our reliance on energy produced in hostile lands.
Edited at April 10, 2013 12:09 PM
April 10, 2013 12:12 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I think rob might have a little crush on dogwalker girl.
April 10, 2013 12:12 PM - Deleted
When she gets back with new dog I am going to take a picture of us. She rocks. If I was not an autosexual, i'd SO be in love. She's like the female version of Steve Urkel! (literally!) I almost want to go out and buy a dog now. I can't do that though. But I really REALLY want to. I'm going to leave it up the Universe. If there's a dog for me, then it will happen. Big animals complicate matters though... Hard to find apartments and roommates and shit, but where there is a will there is a way. My fishes have kept me human. Perhaps a dog is in the future, who knows. The fish are great in the meantime.

I don't understand humans who don't have pets.




April 10, 2013 12:13 PM - Slope4Eva
BINGO, Cobble, lol.
April 10, 2013 12:14 PM - Deleted
"Assuming you're both gentlemen"

Bad assumption! Actually, I normally do take my hat off when I enter a place, but firgured the rules are relaxed in a bar.
April 10, 2013 12:15 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Dave, I have a new white jacket. I bet I have occasion to wear it before Memorial Day, and I will. Wear whichever darn hat pleases you, please!
Edited at April 10, 2013 12:15 PM
April 10, 2013 12:15 PM - Deleted
quote:
So here's my dilemma....it's getting a bit too warm to continue to wear my felt fedora but it's too early to switch to the Panama hat even though I did see someone wearing one just this morning.

^is that a for real post!? Just stick a porkpie hat on your head and call it a day. ooof..


April 10, 2013 12:15 PM - dibs
Eva...I think it's OK in a bar but if I were seated in a restaurant it'd come off. I apologize for not tipping it when any of the ladies walked in but then, unescorted ladies shouldn't be at a bar.
April 10, 2013 12:16 PM - dibs
Same answer as benson.
Edited at April 10, 2013 12:16 PM
April 10, 2013 12:18 PM - Deleted
FYI the dog walker chick caught me walking in the living room in my undies! gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. I bugged OUT and then she showed me her tattoo so I guess it is all good.

April 10, 2013 12:18 PM - Slope4Eva
Benson, I have no idea why I even noticed. I thought I'd ask. Oh, I hadn't heard about Eddie's surgery. They're having a bit of a rough stretch, too. I haven't talked to him in a couple of weeks.
April 10, 2013 12:21 PM - Slope4Eva
Dave, I did wear my wedding ring, does that give me a free pass? Besides, all you guys were my "date" that night.

Edited at April 10, 2013 12:21 PM
April 10, 2013 12:23 PM - Deleted
I can't wait to get back to work tomorrow, but I have to pay myself on the back for picking two amazing vacation days. Yesterday meeting Jenn City and getting invited to the big brother premiere party and today seeing Duke's old dog walker and her new tattoo. Sometimes the Universe makes thing just gel. The last two days were amazing. Swimming in the ocean was the icing on the cake.
April 10, 2013 12:23 PM - dibs
Maybe you should have worn a big Scarlet Letter on front!!!!!!
April 10, 2013 12:27 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
BH wasn't with me when I walked in, but he showed up later, and escorted me home. Does that count?
Edited at April 10, 2013 12:27 PM
April 10, 2013 12:28 PM - dibs
Dona...CXW (Corrections Corp of America) is turning itself into a REIT. Looks attractive. As politically uncorrect it is to say so, prisons are a growth industry and one shouldn't pass up the opportunity to profit from that.
Edited at April 10, 2013 12:29 PM
April 10, 2013 12:29 PM - Deleted
What is the weather going to be like for the next few hours? Beach or no beach?

Don't worry about ocean temps, I am so okay with them. I am asking about other weather temps.


April 10, 2013 12:34 PM - Slope4Eva
Rob, weather was posted earlier, I already forget what it said. Question is do you feel like going out or staying home on your vacation day. I'd say, just go, the universe is waiting for you.
Edited at April 10, 2013 12:34 PM
April 10, 2013 12:34 PM - Slope4Eva
I had no choice but to arrive by myself, you on the other hand, left your guy at home. I was looking forward to feeling up those biceps I've read so much about.
April 10, 2013 12:35 PM - dibs
Sunny and warm at least until this evening.
Edited at April 10, 2013 12:35 PM
April 10, 2013 12:36 PM - Slope4Eva
I love listening to my little girl play her country music. I raised her well.
April 10, 2013 12:39 PM - dibs
I'm assuming one of her favorites ISN'T "Don't come home a-drinkin with lovin on your mind"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBnkAkmLtaw
April 10, 2013 12:42 PM - Slope4Eva
haha, not yet, thank goodness.
April 10, 2013 12:53 PM - CGar
"if I were seated in a restaurant it'd come off"

I call BULLSHIT. Last meal I had with you - sitting down at a table - you kept your hat on the entire time.
April 10, 2013 12:54 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I love my boss, truly, but she's asking me to * think*, and sadly, that's even more difficult than usual right now! (Hush, DIBS)
Edited at April 10, 2013 12:54 PM
April 10, 2013 12:55 PM - dibs
Brunch with a couple of losers is different.
Edited at April 10, 2013 12:55 PM
April 10, 2013 12:56 PM - CGar
"I don't understand humans who don't have pets."

Me neither.

April 10, 2013 12:57 PM - CGar
"Brunch with a couple of losers is different."

Charming. I bet you take the dishes out of the sink before you pee in it, too.
Edited at April 10, 2013 12:57 PM
April 10, 2013 1:01 PM - dibs
Don't start with the Irish jokes. it's usually 3 against 1.
April 10, 2013 1:03 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oy! Gross!
April 10, 2013 1:04 PM - Deleted
me and the dog walker


Edited at April 10, 2013 1:04 PM
April 10, 2013 1:05 PM - Donatella
Benson, the cheap natural gas prices, thanks to horizontal drilling and hydro fracking, are in the process of revitalizing the industrial landscape in the US, bringing back businesses here, changing technologies, making the US internationally competitive in ways we haven't been in decades. It is an enormous economic boon. There are people who have been shouting about this but the misplaced concerns about fracking have stolen the thunder. I think people should be dancing in the streets about fracking.
Edited at April 10, 2013 1:07 PM
April 10, 2013 1:06 PM - dibs
And unemployment rates in fracking states are VERY low.
Edited at April 10, 2013 1:06 PM
April 10, 2013 1:07 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I wish there were an Ina Garten channel, or maybe a Jacques, Ina and Martha channel.
Edited at April 10, 2013 1:07 PM
April 10, 2013 1:09 PM - Donatella
I will post a very exciting article by PhilVerleger later. Got to go. Oh and ps Dibs, climate change is changing all the sartorial rules, so wear the straw. Later.
Edited at April 10, 2013 1:28 PM
April 10, 2013 1:13 PM - dibs
That's the first valid argument I've heard to believe in climate change.
Edited at April 10, 2013 1:13 PM
April 10, 2013 1:18 PM - Slope4Eva
See ya soon, gotta go crazy, uh, I mean visit the patients.
Edited at April 10, 2013 1:18 PM
April 10, 2013 1:20 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Hope all goes well, Eva.
April 10, 2013 1:29 PM - Donatella
Yes keep the faith Eva and also your sense of humor.
April 10, 2013 1:37 PM - CGar
I'd like to see this elderly man tied to the railroad tracks. I can't believe what some people do to innocent helpless animals.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/10/17688268-dog-tied-to-railroad-tracks-saved-by-eagle-eyed-engineer?lite
April 10, 2013 1:44 PM - dibs
Buying SVA, lead vaccine maker in China, as aplay on the growing number of bird flu cases there; which the CDC just made note of
April 10, 2013 1:47 PM - CGar
Going for a Stress Test now. Can you say vagovagal reaction waiting to happen?
April 10, 2013 1:47 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
remember in national lampoon's vacation when aunt edna died and they tied her to the roof of the car and kept on driving?
April 10, 2013 1:50 PM - BoerumHillScott
Natural Gas prices are still above where they were throughout the 90s, even when adjusted for inflation.

I hope we don't have another cycle like we did from 2000-2008, when all the facilities built with cheap natural gas in mind came on line, and the price increased by a factor of 5.
April 10, 2013 1:52 PM - dibs
"I hope we don't have another cycle like we did from 2000-2008, when all the facilities built with cheap natural gas in mind came on line, and the price increased by a factor of 5."

Buy some MLPs. PGH, EXC and LNCO are some if you don't want o have to deal with K-1 filings.
April 10, 2013 1:56 PM - Deleted
nasty

http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/04/meet-the-swugs-of-yale-women-washed-up-at-21.html
April 10, 2013 1:56 PM - rf
The resurrection of Anthony Weiner:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/magazine/anthony-weiner-and-huma-abedins-post-scandal-playbook.html?hp&pagewanted=all
April 10, 2013 2:04 PM - Deleted
One other thought about natural gas: given that it is (by far) the cleanest-burning of the carbon-based fuels, you would think that environmentalists might weigh that benefit versus the downside of fracking (in addition to weighing its economic and security benefits that I discussed above).
April 10, 2013 2:06 PM - Deleted
I think the editors of the NY Post's front page are secretly behind the resurrection of Anthony Weiner. They would have a field day with his attempted comeback.
April 10, 2013 2:06 PM - Deleted
I think the editors of the NY Post's front page are secretly behind the resurrection of Anthony Weiner. They would have a field day with his attempted comeback.
April 10, 2013 2:08 PM - DeLepp
coherent decision trees don't get you on cable tv.
Edited at April 10, 2013 2:08 PM
April 10, 2013 2:09 PM - Deleted
DeLepp;

I was going to say the same thing. Probably doesn't help with fund-raising too.
April 10, 2013 2:11 PM - dibs
Abedin is pretty hot and she'll be a big selling point above all other candidates' wives/partners.
Edited at April 10, 2013 2:11 PM
April 10, 2013 2:12 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
"Yale SWUG Michelle Taylor wants to move to Brooklyn after she graduates next month. She is planning to eat nothing but jam and pickles for awhile so that she can collect the empty mason jars to use as wine cups. (I asked her if she was joking about this; she wasn’t.) "

"For the SWUG is not a type but an ethos,” Taylor explains. “It is the Dionysian response to the cruel brevity of our bright college years. The SWUG seeks oblivion in the face of despair, love in the face of alienation, whiskey in the face of moving back in with your parents who don’t have a liquor cabinet.”

As she puts it, “Saying ‘I don’t give a fuck’ at the right moment, it makes you a more complex person.”

ARRRRGGHHHHHH! oh, the feeblemindedness of youth.
April 10, 2013 2:14 PM - Slopefarm
Not sure of AW candidacy's rationale. Where does he see that 40% primary vote coming from?
April 10, 2013 2:14 PM - Deleted
"“Saying ‘I don’t give a fuck’ at the right moment, it makes you a more complex person.”"

sounds like bad decisions to me
April 10, 2013 2:15 PM - DeLepp
swugs, they make me feel better about my future job prospects as I approach dottage.
April 10, 2013 2:16 PM - Deleted
consciously not giving a fuck to make oneself seemingly "more complex" is lame.
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April 10, 2013 2:18 PM - dibs
dh may snag a Yale girl with a pedigree yet!!!!!
April 10, 2013 2:18 PM - etson
"parents who don’t have a liquor cabinet.”

Wtf?????!!!! I blame the parents. No wonder the kids turn out vapid.
April 10, 2013 2:19 PM - Deleted
perfectly okay with the columbia one now
April 10, 2013 2:20 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
i wonder how many years it will take for this michelle taylor person to be completely mortified/embarrassed by those quotes. but i guess until then, dh should look her up come june and ring her doorbell, mason jars and cheap vino in hand.
April 10, 2013 2:20 PM - etson
Eating nothing but jam and pickles would certainly make her a more hungry person, and probably one with bad skin.
April 10, 2013 2:21 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
lol etson
April 10, 2013 2:22 PM - Arkady
I got an offer from ConEd to lock into an electrical rate (13.32 ¢) now for the coming year. Good idea?
Edited at April 10, 2013 2:24 PM
April 10, 2013 2:22 PM - Deleted
seriously snappy - i'll take her to costco on a date and show her that one doesn't need to consume jars of pickles to obtain mason jars for drinking
Edited at April 10, 2013 2:22 PM
April 10, 2013 2:22 PM - dibs
Jam & Pickles sounds like the name of a trendy British cafe.
April 10, 2013 2:23 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ha! she may get naked in aisle 7!
April 10, 2013 2:23 PM - etson
Good idea to lock in a nat gas rate IMO.
April 10, 2013 2:24 PM - Slopefarm
"Jam & Pickles sounds like the name of a trendy British cafe."


Or a high end maternity shoppe.
Edited at April 10, 2013 2:25 PM
April 10, 2013 2:24 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
oddly enough, i was looking online at purchasing mason jars yesterday. they are plentiful and cheap. and don't require noming on pickles and nasty ass jam.
April 10, 2013 2:25 PM - Deleted
what's the difference between jelly and jam?

(dirty joke, google for answer)
April 10, 2013 2:25 PM - Arkady
Thanks, Etson. I made a mistake, though. It's ConEd, not gas. I think I'm already locked on gas for the next 8 mos.
April 10, 2013 2:26 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
watch...it'll become the name of the next artisanal shoppe in willyb.
April 10, 2013 2:28 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
pickles is the name of a super skanky strip club in pgh. just a little tidbit in case you find yourself on jeopardy and the category is 'places you don't wanna go in pittsburgh.'
April 10, 2013 2:29 PM - Slopefarm
'places you don't wanna go in pittsburgh.'

A profoundly redundant category. [runs for cover]
Edited at April 10, 2013 2:29 PM
April 10, 2013 2:30 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
HEY!
Edited at April 10, 2013 2:30 PM
April 10, 2013 2:30 PM - Deleted
i think i wanna go to the club snappy was at with her bro last time she was there
Edited at April 10, 2013 2:30 PM
April 10, 2013 2:31 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
lol! now that was a good time!
April 10, 2013 2:39 PM - etson
"pickles is the name of a super skanky strip club in pgh."

There used to be a SSSC in downtown Calgary called the French Maid. The building was demolished and an office tower is going up there now, which is commonly referred to as the French Maid Tower.
Not sure if that 'titbit' appears in the marketing materials for the tenants.






April 10, 2013 2:45 PM - Deleted
Best strip club name I've come across is "The Golden Banana", a well-known spot north of Boston.
April 10, 2013 2:46 PM - DeLepp
"There are 12,338 retired California government workers receiving $100,000 or more in pension payments from Calpers. Michael D. Johnson, a retiree from the County of Solano, pulls in $30,920.24 per month. As more municipalities file Chapter 9, the more these kinds of retirement deals will be broken."

This is going to get ugly as calpers like most pension funds are still using a rate of return of 7.5%
April 10, 2013 2:48 PM - MontroseMorris
SWUG girl is an idiot. If her parents have been paying her enormous tuition, they should demand she pay them back. What a waste.
April 10, 2013 2:48 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
30k + per month in retirement payments???? damn. i got into the wrong line of business.
April 10, 2013 2:48 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
indeed, mm.
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April 10, 2013 2:49 PM - Arkady
Pickles is the family name of a British theatrical dynasty. US movie industry wanted Vivian P to change her name for box office appeal but she didn't so Vanessa R. played Isadora instead of V.P.
April 10, 2013 2:57 PM - MontroseMorris
When crooks bilk the pension system for all that money, they get the headlines, and people shrieking about government worker pensions, but in reality, there are tens of thousands of pensioners who are not getting ridiculous paybacks, and when the system goes bust, they are the ones who suffer, through no fault of their own. The problem is there is no real oversight, to catch these people before they start collecting the big bucks.
April 10, 2013 3:02 PM - Legion
delepp,
the public pension system in many states is out of control.
This is how it happens:

1. Someone gets elected to the right position to influence labor contract negotiations.

2. The individual promises to help the public labor unions with their "contract negotiations" in exchange for endorsements, favors-in-kind by their workforce and solid monetary support on their re-election campaign.

3. The contract negotiations go on publicly as a show but the fix is already in, they will approve wage increases out of sync with private sector wages, defined benefit pensions out of touch with projected pension fund rate of growth and generous healthcare and benefits packages which will typically not require any out of pocket expenses (or minimal).

4. The public sector unions get their increases and the politician gets re-elected.

Wash, rinse, repeat,
then raise taxes or ask the federal government for a bailout.

This time around there's a new wrinkle though, municipalities are actually going into bankruptcy.
I think that Stockton California is the first large municipality to start that process.
Proving once again that Margaret Thatcher was right when she said:
"... the problem with (the private sector working overtime to sustain the public sector through taxes) is that eventually, you run out of other people's money."
April 10, 2013 3:04 PM - Slopefarm
People in the 18-21 age range say and do stupid shit. Why is it news?
April 10, 2013 3:06 PM - DeLepp
Illinois is expecting an 8.2% return. Why we are underweight that state.

MM, I'm not sure you can classify them as crooks as they negotiated with the folks in power to get these pensions. More about lousy local govt.
April 10, 2013 3:06 PM - etson
It's a question of how, and by whom, the rules get written of course. Easy for govts to offer and unions to agree to generous pensions rather than paying cash for raises, and push problems on to future taxpayers.
Best structure is to have a legal framework for the important stuff (required funding level, what happens in case of a shortfall, how return assumption is calculated) with regular reviews by external parties at standard intervals.

The Treasurer of Rhode Island (a Dem) is making some progress in dealing with the awful mess in her state's public pensions. Was a BBerg article on her a while back I think.
April 10, 2013 3:08 PM - DeLepp
NY DOB just pushed out a another money grab and fined my bldg for not having a boiler inspection for 2011...seems many bldgs got fined. Seems like lost paperwork according to the insurer as I was at the gd inspection. Rep said they are getting flooded with phone calls.
April 10, 2013 3:08 PM - etson
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-10/gina-raimondo-math-convinces-rhode-island-of-america-s-prospects-with-debt.html

Some of the funding issues will solve themselves whenever interest rates rise but that will be too late for many of the states / municipalities.
April 10, 2013 3:09 PM - Deleted
One of the biggest steps that could be taken to reform politics in NYC and NYS is to require that all new public employees have a defined contribution pension rather than a defined benefit. With the former, the cost to the taxpayer shows up on the books immediately, and the politicians would be more accountable for the promises they make to the public-sector unions. In addition, it would reduce the resentment that private-sector employees have towards the public sector, as the overwhelming majority of the former now have a defined contribution pension.
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:09 PM
April 10, 2013 3:09 PM - Legion
right etson,
a step in the right direction would require a State Constitutional cap on spending,
a cap on increases and a cap on deficits.
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:09 PM
April 10, 2013 3:11 PM - MontroseMorris
I have to agree with Etson on this one. Negotiating a fare wage/pension is one thing, giving away the farm is another. And since it is a negotiation, those who agree to pay the terms are as unthinking as those who greedily go for the moon.
April 10, 2013 3:17 PM - dibs
Benson...remember the demands by the MTA for the "unborn?" They should never have been agreed to. Absolutely ridiculous. And you are all paying for it now with the fare increases.
April 10, 2013 3:18 PM - Deleted
accounting for pensions is a freakin nightmare. that's all i remember from school.
April 10, 2013 3:21 PM - MontroseMorris
You talk like you don't take public transportation, Dave.
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:21 PM
April 10, 2013 3:22 PM - dibs
the other issue with many public employees pensions is that they are not based on base salary but oftentimes overall compensation the last few years they work; during which, overtime is heaped on them. That law needs to be changed
April 10, 2013 3:23 PM - etson
Nassau & Suffolk have some of the worst problems, mainly with police pay & pensions.
IIRC, Nassau is in a worse situation but Suffolk is deteriorating at a faster rate.
April 10, 2013 3:23 PM - dibs
Mark my words, many of these pension schemes will be broke in 10 years. Then like MM says, all the recipients will be hurt. Pension managers will get sued for abrogating their fiduciary duty by making expectaions of 7-9% annual returns. And they should.
April 10, 2013 3:27 PM - DeLepp
How that guy gets $30k a month is shocking considering what my dad and aunt got for 40+ years of service.
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:27 PM
April 10, 2013 3:27 PM - Legion
true dibs,
it's a difficult nut to crack in a state like New York because the economic issues involving public sector unions are usually (purposefully) tied to "social justice" issues thereby shortcircuiting any meaningful discussion of reform within the guidelines of economic reality.

So if, for instance, one were to question the ongoing problem of a huge percentage firefighters retiring on disability, it becomes an issue fraught with the spectre of 9/11.

April 10, 2013 3:30 PM - etson
Frustrating: I have lots of opinions on this but can't share them further on the internet (for obvs reasons for those who know me!)
April 10, 2013 3:30 PM - Legion
^^^^^^^^^^

I had posted something brilliant and to the point but it was somehow lost in the sock drawer of internet meanderings.
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:30 PM
April 10, 2013 3:32 PM - dibs
I doubt any ofyou are trading bitcoins and I suspect most of you don't even know what they are but it was clear that this sort of charade was eventually going to come to an end and it looks like it has today!!! Better off putting your money on a roulette wheel!!!! It's only about a billion dollar market so no real ramifications if these fools lose their money.
April 10, 2013 3:33 PM - MontroseMorris
See, we can agree on some things. I agree that pensions should be calculated from base salaries, not accrued overtime.
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April 10, 2013 3:34 PM - Deleted
At some point in history, Scott Walker will be recognized as a hero of our time, for going into the beast of the belly and taking the public-service unions head-on.
April 10, 2013 3:35 PM - dibs
Agree on Walker, benson.
April 10, 2013 3:36 PM - Slopefarm
The beast of the belly?
April 10, 2013 3:36 PM - Legion
"Frustrating: I have lots of opinions on this but can't share them further on the internet (for obvs reasons for those who know me!)"

You're set to retire at 39 and live on a 3/4ths pension with unlimited healthcare benefits?
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:36 PM
April 10, 2013 3:36 PM - Legion
Someone needs to take the lion by the horns on this issue.
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:36 PM
April 10, 2013 3:38 PM - Deleted
Er, belly of the beast, I should say!
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:38 PM
April 10, 2013 3:39 PM - MontroseMorris
Scott Walker will be recognized as a hero of our time,

Yeah, right. (sarcasm) It's one thing to agree that the system is broken and needs fixing, it's quite another to "fix" it by dropping a Mack truck on it. He's punishing thousands for the bad behavior of a small number of people, relative to the whole system.
April 10, 2013 3:42 PM - Deleted
Montrose;

If you think that the public-sector unions would willingly negotiate pension reform, you simply don't know them. They, and their members, flood the political system with cash to maintain the status quo, and nowhere is that more true than in New York state. So yes, it took a hero like Walker to stand up against the union cash and resources that was thrown his way, and he won.
April 10, 2013 3:44 PM - Legion
We need someone like Anthony Weiner,
a man with one hand on the pulse of the public sentiment
and another in his pants playing pocket pool!
April 10, 2013 3:45 PM - MontroseMorris
Walker is not a hero. You certainly use the word at its lowest common denominator there.

As to flooding the political system with cash, the private sector is no stranger to that practice. Where do you think the unions learned it?
April 10, 2013 3:46 PM - dibs
Benson's right, MM. No one will ever be able to negotiate with unions on single issues. They just need a slap down. They don't understand anything else, never have and never will. It's playing ball by the rules they invented. You're being naieve to think otherwise.
April 10, 2013 3:48 PM - Slopefarm
Except that the unions agreed to everything Walker demanded for the budget back in 2011 except surrendering collective bargaining. The collective bargaining piece was an entirely gratuitous power grab as it had no impact on the budget in light of the concessions on wages and benefits that the unions had agreed to make.
April 10, 2013 3:48 PM - dibs
MM, come on. You can google all sorts of sources and see that the unions are BY FAR the biggest contributors to all politicians. And they far outweigh the financial sector. I've posted these numbers before.
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:48 PM
April 10, 2013 3:48 PM - Deleted
Montrose;

No point arguing on semantics. In my book, someone who risks his political career to save the next generation from debt incurred to pay for current expenses is a hero. If you don't agree, fine.
April 10, 2013 3:49 PM - dibs
And the people of WI are in much better shape fiscally now because of it, unlike many other states.
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:51 PM
April 10, 2013 3:50 PM - Legion
Full disclosure:
as a resident, I led and successfully negotiated with the hospital administration for better wages and benefits.
I got tired of raiding the nurses' 3PM snack cart while scrounging the hospital for snacks.

I just wanted some more chocolate chip cookies. ;o)
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:50 PM
April 10, 2013 3:50 PM - MontroseMorris
We've had this argument so many times, so I'm not going to bother to sit here and have it again. I totally and vehemently disagree with both of you regarding Walker and unions, and nothing you say is going to change my mind.
April 10, 2013 3:52 PM - dibs
Because you are a bleeding heart liberal and it would seem, unable to grasp the longer term financial consequences of these unions. It simple mathematics really. it's unsustainable. you will be around to see it completely unravel in 10-15 years. Simple mathematics
April 10, 2013 3:53 PM - petebklyn
zzzzzzzzzzzz
April 10, 2013 3:53 PM - dibs
The proof is in the yields that municipalities have to pay to float debt. The market knows.
April 10, 2013 3:54 PM - MontroseMorris
Dave, you always have to be an asshole and go for the insult. Classy.
April 10, 2013 3:56 PM - dibs
Well you won't face the simple mathematical fact trhat these union pwensions are simply unsustainable. You refuse to look at it with an open mind. The system is broken and broke. But god forbis someone starts to change things.

I'm sorry but your head is in the sand on this issue.
April 10, 2013 3:57 PM - Legion
OT Anger Alert.
Time to deploy cat photo:
Edited at April 10, 2013 3:57 PM
April 10, 2013 3:57 PM - Deleted
The great thing about the RMLC is that our bench is deep. It only takes one or two of us to do the heavy lifting on the issue du jour, and the others can go on light duty. Today it's Legion's turn to go light!
April 10, 2013 3:59 PM - Deleted
"pwensions"

Is that some kind of PWN annuity??
April 10, 2013 4:00 PM - petebklyn
asking a little more in taxes from rich person is class warfare. Attacking all unions and pensions for working people is just and righteous cause.
April 10, 2013 4:00 PM - dibs
We also have the facts to back up our positions on this one, benson. If it weren't a problem, municipalities wouldn't be going bankrupt with many others teetering on it but people here, like MM, refuse to look at the facts. they only want more people subsidized with uneconomic programs. it's the Democrats' platform. it's how they grow their constituency.
April 10, 2013 4:01 PM - dibs
Pete, all the studies have shown that more taxes on rich people have VERY LITTLE EFFECT on generating enough revenue for the government to meet its spending increases. let alone it's current bills due.
Edited at April 10, 2013 4:01 PM
April 10, 2013 4:02 PM - Legion
Bensonius Maximus and Professor Von Dibs III.
;o)
April 10, 2013 4:03 PM - dibs
Time for this....
Edited at April 10, 2013 4:03 PM
April 10, 2013 4:03 PM - dibs
And this one, an even bigger moron......
Edited at April 10, 2013 4:03 PM
April 10, 2013 4:03 PM - Legion
LOL
April 10, 2013 4:05 PM - MontroseMorris
No one on your "deep bench" knows how to argue an issue. Your "star" thinks that insulting people and their intelligence wins the day. It doesn't.

Fortunately, I have to go out, and won't be here to continue a fruitless argument. later.
April 10, 2013 4:05 PM - Legion
10-15 years?

I better work harder on my retirement escape plan for Cartagena.
I'll let the liberals of New York continue working for me while I lounge in a hammock wearing a panama hat and guyabera shirt.
April 10, 2013 4:06 PM - dibs
MM saying that they were both elected in 3, 2, 1......


Yeah, of course, because they are promising lazy entitled people that they will never have to work again.
April 10, 2013 4:06 PM - Deleted
WOW THIS IS LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY
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April 10, 2013 4:06 PM - Legion
MM,
can I get an e-hug? ;o)
April 10, 2013 4:07 PM - dibs
MM...I just don't understand why you can't see or refuse to see what the mathematical facts are??? These entitlements, including many private pensions are unsustainable, pure and simple.
April 10, 2013 4:09 PM - dibs
Sam Zell, one of the smartest guys in the country, is on CNBC now.
April 10, 2013 4:09 PM - petebklyn
beautiful day out there...why argue about the future when can enjoy the free govt provided weather we have today.
(of course , rob, don't go to beach because all the prognosticators here said will rain. and the others said the sky is falling).
April 10, 2013 4:12 PM - dibs
Yes, rf was all over the rain predictions when I told her it wasn't coming until 9:00. But she was certain.
April 10, 2013 4:15 PM - Deleted
"MM,
can I get an e-hug? ;o)"

Ever the charmer, that Legion!
April 10, 2013 4:17 PM - Legion
...into every life, a little rain must fall.
April 10, 2013 4:22 PM - Legion
haha benson,

...alas, MM has never once accepted an e-hug from me.
She seems to be immune to my charms. :o(
April 10, 2013 4:23 PM - dibs
Sam Zell just said that the election went the wrong way because both sides didn't tell the truth. The republicans were closer to it but nobody wanted to listen, which Romney correctly concluded with his 47% comment.

Very good assessment.
Edited at April 10, 2013 4:23 PM
April 10, 2013 4:26 PM - dibs
Truth is coming out and hitting the news about Obama's proposed caps on IRAs. Obama extracted significant tax increases with the fiscal cliff negotiation. This has to stop and he needs to focus on creating jobs.

W O R S T P R E S I D E N T E V E R
April 10, 2013 4:26 PM - Slopefarm
Wait, that makes no sense (aside from all the ways the 47% comment was itself absurd). You say Zell said Romney lost because he didn't tell the truth but no one wanted to listen when he did? Those are entirely contradictory propositions.
Edited at April 10, 2013 4:26 PM
April 10, 2013 4:27 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
It was me that said it would likely rain, and rf and Arkady's weather reports didn't exactly contradict mine.

"asking a little more in taxes from rich person is class warfare. Attacking all unions and pensions for working people is just and righteous cause."

Snort! I love you, Pete.
April 10, 2013 4:29 PM - dibs
The problem with Obama and the Democrats is that they feel it's their RIGHT to determine what is fair for everyone. it is not.
April 10, 2013 4:29 PM - Slopefarm
"WOW THIS IS LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY"

LOL, dh. So true.

April 10, 2013 4:29 PM - Deleted
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
April 10, 2013 4:30 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oh lord. What a bunch of hooey to wake up to. The RMLC patting each other on the back! Talk about your Amen Choir! I'm going back to bed.
April 10, 2013 4:30 PM - Donatella
Hahaha dh. Perfect.
April 10, 2013 4:31 PM - dibs
WOW...this moron economist from the President's Council on Economic Advisers can't seem to grasp that there are far fewer people in the workforce than there were in 2009.
Edited at April 10, 2013 4:30 PM
April 10, 2013 4:31 PM - DeLepp
75 Livingston:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323550604578412450853203088.html?mod=WSJ_hps_sections_realestate#%2F3

I'm intrigued by the blue kitchen. Shower with a view is quite nice as well.
April 10, 2013 4:32 PM - Deleted
Things I learned on the OT:

Every Monday evening, I play poker with a guy who retired from the FDNY at age 55 with a 3/4 disability pension ($10K/month). I'm not sure what his disability is, as he looks like the picture of health, but I'm sure his last tour of duty (chaffeur for the FDNY deputy commissioner of Staten Island) was full of hazards that would bring about a disability. He smokes likes a chimney, which I'm sure helps with the disability. During breaks in playing poker, he dispenses advice to recent retirees as to which doctor to see to ensure that their disability is "discovered".

Thanks to the OT, I now know that he is a working person.
April 10, 2013 4:34 PM - Deleted
maybe you should keep better company, benson
April 10, 2013 4:36 PM - Deleted
i know a banker who spends tons of money on strippers and blow. i think he could pay a lil more in taxes.
Edited at April 10, 2013 4:36 PM
April 10, 2013 4:36 PM - Deleted
Not at all, DH. He's my friend, and I like the guy. If he can get away with it, more power to him. I, on the other hand, can speak up as a taxpayer.
April 10, 2013 4:37 PM - Legion
I suppose things could be worse.
We could be getting a tan with *rob* at the beach.

New Jersey "tan" mom:
Edited at April 10, 2013 4:37 PM
April 10, 2013 4:37 PM - dibs
Great place. I like the blue kitchen too. In Hong Kong, I had an ensuite master bath with a shower that literally stuck out the side og the building like an elevator shaft and was 3/4 windows on each level!!!!!! Any Chinese I brought home would spend a lot of time arranging the curtain so as to be sure no one could see them, despite no buildings in line of sight.

I don't like the busy ceilings in that place and the Chinese would think that they are bad feng shui
April 10, 2013 4:38 PM - Deleted
i just don't think it's very constructive pointing out "bad apples" as a reason to totally destroy something. and we ALL do it
April 10, 2013 4:38 PM - dibs
"i know a banker who spends tons of money on strippers and blow. i think he could pay a lil more in taxes."

Yeah, so people with EBT cards can spend their free money on blow and strippers.
April 10, 2013 4:40 PM - dibs
benson, that guy must be a really good, longstanding friend of your because if I were playing cards with him and he went on like that I wouldn't be able to contain myself.

But that sort of mentality is engrained in the union mindset, especially the public service workers. It's really despicable but it's been supported by Democratic administrations for decades and you need a Walker to reverse all that wrongdoing.
Edited at April 10, 2013 4:45 PM
April 10, 2013 4:40 PM - Deleted
strawman yo
April 10, 2013 4:45 PM - Deleted
DH;

Is it constructive to say that someone advocating reform is against working people? BTW, my friend is not a bad apple. He simply knows how to play the system, and it is that system I am arguing against.
April 10, 2013 4:47 PM - dibs
Like MM, dh doesn't really get it. And that makes him even worse because he's an accountant and should understand the fiscal ramifications.
April 10, 2013 4:50 PM - Slopefarm
Benson, I appreciate that he's your pal, but you kind of walk pretty close to the line suggesting his disability claim is fraudulent. That's not playing the system, that's abusing it, and an argument for policing the system, not necessarily changing it (not saying there's no argument for changing it, only that your example isn't that). I'm all for doing a better job ferreting out the fraud.
Edited at April 10, 2013 4:50 PM
April 10, 2013 4:50 PM - petebklyn
If he is defrauding the system then than is a bad apple. Disability is for a reason. If he is colluding with others to steal from the system it is theft and could be prosecuted.
(and I have often said the 'uniform services' to get away with murder.....and the republicans have been their biggest supporters).
April 10, 2013 4:51 PM - dibs
WOW...Christine Lagarde is lecturing Maria Bartirom on how the US needs to reign in its entitlement spending!!!!!!

SHE'S FROM FRANCE!!!!!!!!!!


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April 10, 2013 4:52 PM - DeLepp
and she can retire at 60
April 10, 2013 4:52 PM - Legion
dh seems to sleep too much:

"zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

;o)
April 10, 2013 4:54 PM - Deleted
hey, i'm all for REFORM. that's not really the rhetoric coming from the right though. what i'm hearing is "get rid of all unions because a garbage truck driver is retired at 39 making 800k a year" or "get rid of entitlements because minority welfare queens" - there's just no fucking intelligent conversation happening. i'm really getting tired of everyone.
April 10, 2013 4:58 PM - Deleted
Slopey and Pete;

You are both being highly disingenuous. Something like 3/4 of FDNY retire on disability pensions. Something like 1/2 of all LIRR conductors retire on a disability pension. When you are talking these types of numbers, that is widely known by all, it is the SYSTEM that is at fault. I used my friend as an example because you toted that "picking on the working man" bogeyman. Now you want to turn the argument around and say that my friend is a bad apple. Well if that is the case, there are a lot of bad apples out there, and your party - the one that is in power in NYC and NYS - is the one that has been turning the blind eye to it. That's why it takes a US attorney to get anything cleaned up in this state - the local politicians are part of the very system that produces this situation.
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April 10, 2013 4:58 PM - Deleted
Slopey and Pete;

You are both being highly disingenuous. Something like 3/4 of FDNY retire on disability pensions. Something like 1/2 of all LIRR conductors retire on a disability pension. When you are talking these types of numbers, that is widely known by all, it is the SYSTEM that is at fault. I used my friend as an example because you toted that "picking on the working man" bogeyman. Now you want to turn the argument around and say that my friend is a bad apple. Well if that is the case, there are a lot of bad apples out there, and your party - the one that is in power in NYC and NYS - is the one that has been turning the blind eye to it. That's why it takes a US attorney to get anything cleaned up in this state - the local politicians are part of the very system that produces this situation.
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April 10, 2013 4:58 PM - dibs
I'm sorry but I don't think that unions, under the reasons that they were originally formed, are necessary today. Their power is too broad and their strength to hold hostage something like the MTA or air traffic control (Thank you Ron Reagan for busting them) is egregious and against the public good.
April 10, 2013 5:00 PM - petebklyn
this weather is not sustainable and it is disingenuous and needs to be accountable.
April 10, 2013 5:01 PM - Deleted
"get rid of all unions because a garbage truck driver is retired at 39 making 800k a year" or "get rid of entitlements because minority welfare queens" - there's just no fucking intelligent conversation happening. "

Really, DH? Is that what I proposed above? Funny, I thought I had made a simple reform: replace defined benefit pesions with defined contribution.
April 10, 2013 5:01 PM - dibs
Pete, you're just adding to global warming with all your hot air.
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April 10, 2013 5:01 PM - Deleted
i think SOME of the unions are out of control. but i think with the way the disparity btw executive and employee pay is going in this country we need MORE unions. most of the people i know who are against unions are that way because they are just purely freakin jealous.
April 10, 2013 5:04 PM - Deleted
DH;

Check my statements: I have nothing against private-sector unions, heck, I work for a company that is unionized. I do have a problem with public-sector unions, because they corrupt our political process.


April 10, 2013 5:04 PM - dibs
I have always stated here that one of the main reasons I'm against unions is because they are unfair to hard working middle class who no longer enjoy a pension, have not had a raise in 8 years and have to pay more for their healthcare AND pay taxes so these government employees can have far better benefits than they themselves do. That's what's not fair, Democrats!!!!!
April 10, 2013 5:06 PM - dibs
Ruh Roh...National Hurrican Service saying that we will have a worse than normal hurricane season this year.
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April 10, 2013 5:17 PM - Deleted
word - i think we're on the same page with pensions.

this is where we part ways re: unions.

do public sector unions make the political process more difficult? probably. corrupt? eh. i think special interest groups and lobbyists have a far worse impact on that. wouldn't you agree?
April 10, 2013 5:24 PM - Legion
"Really, DH? Is that what I proposed above? Funny, I thought I had made a simple reform: replace defined benefit pesions with defined contribution."

True benson,
and as I suggested earlier,
state constitutional caps on spending, wage increases and budget deficits.

In that post that somehow vanished a couple of hours ago, I was mentioning the high level
of "disability" retirements going on and that it's a difficult problem to tackle because those who seek to reform it are usually trapped in a web of "social justice" issues thrown at them.

.
April 10, 2013 5:24 PM - dibs
Snide, snarky asinine comments from the (we don't have a chance) Democratic mayoral candidates about Weiner's run. Typical.
April 10, 2013 5:24 PM - Deleted
word - i think we're on the same page with pensions.

this is where we part ways re: unions.

do public sector unions make the political process more difficult? probably. corrupt? eh. i think special interest groups and lobbyists have a far worse impact on that. wouldn't you agree?
April 10, 2013 5:37 PM - dibs
I see we are back up and running.

I'll be leaving soon to gorge on sushi and sake. Yes, maybe I should pay more taxes instead but I think I've paid more than my fair share already.
April 10, 2013 5:39 PM - dibs
The system of lobbying and special interest groups is definitely a bad one. Since those laws are controlled by Congress, they will never change. Forget it.
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April 10, 2013 5:41 PM - dibs
Pier 57 to be redeveloped. Took them long enough.
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April 10, 2013 5:49 PM - Deleted
What hapened there?

Anyway, in response to DH: I don't disagree that crony capitalism is a problem too, and that is why I believe in limited government. Today's NYP editorial hit the nail on the head: the reason there is so much corruption in Albany is that the politicians stick their nose in too many places. Check it out. And with that, I'm outta here.
April 10, 2013 5:50 PM - dibs
Problem is, benson, is that all the Democrats believe in more and bigger government.
April 10, 2013 5:58 PM - dibs
Next week is "spa week" Glamorella Spa is offering "organic spray tans." :(
April 10, 2013 6:02 PM - dibs
Owner of Tick Tock Diner in NJ tried to have his uncle torturted and killed. Trouble was the hit man was an undercover cop. I've never met a Greek diner owner who seemed very smart.
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April 10, 2013 6:06 PM - dibs
Weiner has to run. he's sitting on a big pile of campaign cash and has over $1MM in public matching funds that he will lose if he doesn't run this year. So there you have it. It's just about the money.
April 10, 2013 6:18 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Just read the SWUG article. Thankfully such a loser would never move to Ditmas Park. She'll either be in Bushwick, Greenpoint, or Williamsburg. Less likely: mom and dad pony up the bux for rent in a "respectable" area like Brooklyn Heights.
April 10, 2013 6:19 PM - DeLepp
tick tock diner is an institution, we always stopped there after a night a fun in NYC. always packed.
April 10, 2013 6:19 PM - dibs
N Korea marks the birth of its founder on Monday. Watch out.
April 10, 2013 6:20 PM - dibs
Bushwick and Williamsburg would be good places for her. She'll largely be invisible, at least to me.
April 10, 2013 6:23 PM - petebklyn
out of the window at my YMCA - I have been watching a big renovation of townhouse on E48th st. When seemed it was about done....it changed it has been combined with townhouse next door into 1. And expanded upwards. Has been going on for several years.
So I decided to look up who is doing this. Charles Binder of Binder and Binder.
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April 10, 2013 6:25 PM - dibs
Sleazy TV lawyers. He's the one with the cowboy hat.
April 10, 2013 6:29 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Would this get approved in Brooklyn?

http://curious-places.blogspot.com/2012/05/upside-down-house-trassenheide-germany.html
April 10, 2013 6:30 PM - petebklyn
why did I chuckle when saw the picture and read polish architects?
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April 10, 2013 6:33 PM - dibs
I thought the same thing.
April 10, 2013 6:38 PM - petebklyn
be nice, etson. some of my best friends are sleazy lawyers.
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April 10, 2013 6:39 PM - dibs
Don't call me etson. There's not an English bone in my body.
April 10, 2013 6:42 PM - dibs
Cheap Polish labor did fuel the Irish property bubble though.
April 10, 2013 6:45 PM - etson
"There's not an English bone in my body."

Prob the only kind there hasn't been
;-)
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April 10, 2013 6:45 PM - dibs
"The Louvre was closed Wednesday after its workers walked off their jobs to protest what is said to be a rising problem of pickpockets haunting the famed Paris museum's vast galleries."


April 10, 2013 6:49 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"There's not an English bone in my body."

NH. And no need to further advertise your preferences which we're well aware of by now.
April 10, 2013 6:50 PM - Legion
"The Louvre was closed Wednesday after its workers walked off their jobs to protest what is said to be a rising problem of pickpockets haunting the famed Paris museum's vast galleries."

"pickpockets" is simply a French code word for the 75% tax rate they voted in.
April 10, 2013 6:56 PM - Legion
sixyears,
did you hear of the Iranian who developed a time machine?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9985757/Iranian-scientist-claims-to-have-invented-time-machine.html

...now if he could only get to work on getting his country out of the 7th century we'd all be the better for it.
April 10, 2013 7:01 PM - More4Less
here comes the more normal weather
April 10, 2013 7:03 PM - petebklyn
there is going to be a wrestling demo of some sort of iranians and americans at grand central station. trying to promote the sport because of plans to eliminate it from olympics. Sounds hot.

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April 10, 2013 7:06 PM - Deleted
Did someone declare a sausagefest on the OT?
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April 10, 2013 7:06 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Very dark clouds NW of here.
April 10, 2013 7:11 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Legion, you should give Iranians more credit. They've been barred from importing spare parts since 1979 but their airline's Boeings still fly!
April 10, 2013 7:12 PM - etson
We had a big thunderstorm here last night & been raining most of the day. Now clearing but going to be much colder tomorrow & Fri.
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April 10, 2013 7:20 PM - petebklyn
i hear a few raindrops on roof of garden room here now.
I think wrestling was original olympic sport. Heresy to think about dropping it -- when they have golf and that foolish canadian game played on ice.
April 10, 2013 7:24 PM - Deleted
Crap. I'm still at work and need to take subway home - no umbrella. Will work more, hoping that storm passes.
April 10, 2013 7:27 PM - Arkady
boomers here.
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April 10, 2013 7:28 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Misspelling of buttsecks in headline:

http://wonkette.com/511110/sorry-kooch-but-court-says-virginians-may-keep-their-blowjobs-and-buttsex
April 10, 2013 7:32 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
BH's train is going toward Delaware! The front engine is bad, so they are going 'backward' using the 'back' engine , so that they can make a turn of some kind somewhere and head back North....urgh.
April 10, 2013 7:33 PM - petebklyn
quite the segue, cobble. talking about back engine after 6's topic.
April 10, 2013 7:36 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I knew someone would latch onto that!
April 10, 2013 7:45 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ah, going forward now. Only 45 minutes late. : (
April 10, 2013 7:53 PM - Legion
OT Weather Update:

Chance of rain is 100%.


...now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
April 10, 2013 7:56 PM - Deleted
There's some type of big fireworks show going on in Manhattan. What is it for?
April 10, 2013 7:58 PM - sixyearsandcounting
http://sportballsreplacedwithcats.tumblr.com/
April 10, 2013 7:58 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"There's some type of big fireworks show going on in Manhattan. What is it for?"

Benson, see my 7:28.
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April 10, 2013 7:59 PM - rf
The following is a list of legal fireworks displays that have been issued permits by the Fire Department:

Wednesday, April 10, 7:45 PM: Central Park, Cherry Hill, Manhattan
Sponsor: Central Park Conservancy

http://www.nyc.gov/apps/311/allServices.htm?requestType=service&levelOneId=F77A809A-06AF-11DE-AC9C-EF5AFBC474DE&levelTwoId=F77A809A-06AF-11DE-AC9C-EF5AFBC474DE-3&serviceName=Fireworks+Display+Information&finalSubLevel=2
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April 10, 2013 8:02 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Julia Child was just making Savarins...I want one. With berries. Oh wait, I think I have some strawberries, I go get some of those.
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April 10, 2013 8:05 PM - petebklyn
amazing what one can do from the beyond
April 10, 2013 8:06 PM - petebklyn
so you see this from office or home? (the fireworks)
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April 10, 2013 8:07 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Snort! Hush, Pete, you'll make me choke on my strawberries!

Six, I love the 'Curious Places' website. That entertained me for awhile earlier.
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April 10, 2013 8:08 PM - petebklyn
You want to see the ugliest collection of new construction that looks like instant slums....drive down flushing avenue near kent. Seriously, could you work any harder at making something so awful? looks like transported from 3rd world.
April 10, 2013 8:10 PM - Deleted
Thanks Rf. Seems early in the season for a fireworks show.
April 10, 2013 8:12 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
We've ridden bikes by that...awful. Criminal really.
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April 10, 2013 8:12 PM - Deleted
Pete;

I'm still at work. My office in LIC has an unbelievable view of both downtown and midtown Manhattan skyline. I'm sure the owner of the building is hoping for the day when the area is rezoned from commerical to residential.
April 10, 2013 8:14 PM - petebklyn
seems like stopped raining. you are safe to go home now.
April 10, 2013 8:16 PM - Deleted
I'm starting my own business :) I could use some advice, but I don't want to talk about it here, cuz I feel like I get a lot of haterade.



April 10, 2013 8:17 PM - Legion
haha sixyears,
those cat-ball sports pics are funny.
Cats are so versatile.


pete,
I used to drive that stretch of Flushing Avenue very frequently.
It's an entire neighborhood that sort of sprung up overnight there. The Hassidic community needed housing and next thing you know, there are a half dozen huge buildings where there were once warehouses. Aesthetics seemed to be way down on the list coming in somewhere below sprinkler head placement at number 39.
April 10, 2013 8:19 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
It's the latest in 'Modern Prison Architecture'...brought to you by Jewish people. What's wrong with this picture?
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April 10, 2013 8:21 PM - Deleted
Yo that rain was crazy
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April 10, 2013 8:22 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
got caught in the monsoon. that was a serious soaking.
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April 10, 2013 8:23 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
as if that ever stopped you rob. spill it.
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April 10, 2013 8:23 PM - Deleted
Pete;

Thanks for the dismissal. Headed home.
April 10, 2013 8:25 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
and can i say that the freedom to get caught in the rain and not worry 'bout my hair was WONDERFUL! rain gives me a 'fro and since that's the look i'm going for now, fabulous!
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April 10, 2013 8:27 PM - Deleted
I shan't spill it because everyone will just say it's a stupid idea and I'll wind up getting down on myself for it. But since I want to do it, I am just going to do it. The only problem is that I might run into a slight ethics question and might be teetering on the borderline of somehing that isn't so right... Who knows.


April 10, 2013 8:27 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Nice side effect, Snaps!
April 10, 2013 8:29 PM - Deleted
Also I am going to try my ASS OFF to get on big brother this summer. People drop out all the time (I cant believe they had a casting call a few weeks ago on STATEN ISLAND oof!)

Winning half a million dollars sitting a house in LA with a bunch of losers? right up my alley...

April 10, 2013 8:30 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
indeed, cobbly :-) i'm a happy girl. still a smidge damp, but happy nonetheless!
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April 10, 2013 8:30 PM - Legion
I didn't know you were working in LIC now benson.
By the way, congrats on the promotion. You sure work fast!

I was going to purchase a place in the citylights building when I was looking for my first place.
Would you believe that the price they were asking was somewhere around 40k for a three bedroom.
The catch was a hefty maintenance fee of about 2k which covered the building's wrap around mortgage. Still, something like 60 % of that was deductible.
For a three bedroom in a doorman building with the best view of Manhattan, bar none, that was quite a bargain.
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April 10, 2013 8:31 PM - Deleted
Good. Don't talk. Do! Good luck
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April 10, 2013 8:33 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
eva, you around? this is for you....from here on out, blame it on the cat!
April 10, 2013 8:35 PM - Legion
If it has something to do with multi-level marketing,
don't do it.
I think there's a place in hell for people who try to reel you in to business dealings with a ponzi-pyramid like structure based on selling toilet paper and Beano to your family and friends.
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April 10, 2013 8:36 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
but what if my fam and friends need beano????
April 10, 2013 8:36 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
aaaawwwwwww!
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April 10, 2013 8:37 PM - Deleted
I need to hire one of those services to wash me off the internet though first. Net scrubbers or whatever they are called. It's a bit of a double edged sword, cuz those reality TV shows love people with a scandalous web presense, but at the same time, some do not like it all.

It's either Big Brother this summer or my new business. Either of them sound great to me.

I keep forgetting that homosexuals can do anything they want in life. I am autosexual, but geneticlly I am SO GAY. It's time I took advantage of that little fact.


April 10, 2013 8:37 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ha and squeeeeee!
April 10, 2013 8:38 PM - Deleted
LOL
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April 10, 2013 8:38 PM - Deleted
LOL
April 10, 2013 8:39 PM - Legion
Toonces The Driving Cat
Warning:
very funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YBrKQCVRd8
Edited at April 10, 2013 8:39 PM
April 10, 2013 8:40 PM - Deleted
You're an eccentric gay dude who talks to fish. High school girls in Iowa will love u. No joke
Edited at April 10, 2013 8:40 PM
April 10, 2013 8:44 PM - etson
You'd have to poop with all those TV cameras around.
April 10, 2013 8:44 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
legion, that was nutso!

etson, lol! (and please don't encourage further doo-doo chat!)
April 10, 2013 8:45 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Eccentric, yeah, that's it.
April 10, 2013 8:45 PM - MontroseMorris
Legion, I didn't accept your virtual hug because I wasn't here. I really had to go out, like I said. I never intentionally refuse virtual hugs.
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April 10, 2013 8:47 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ha! I'm not saying another word.
April 10, 2013 8:52 PM - Legion
haha snappy,
I love Toonces the Driving Cat. The story always ends with him driving off a cliff though.


MM,
That's ok. I have a healthy self image and can deal with e-hug rejections.
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April 10, 2013 8:54 PM - MontroseMorris
They gave Austin Scarlett from Project Runway his own show. They sent the gayest man in the Western hemisphere out into the hinterlands to make prom dresses, and then spent half the show shooting people's reactions to him. There's a place for you in television, Rob. If they find you, you're golden, at least for a couple of seasons. Save your money!
April 10, 2013 8:56 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
that's one pretty man!
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April 10, 2013 8:57 PM - MontroseMorris
Women would kill for hair that nice. His eyebrows are better than mine, too.
Edited at April 10, 2013 8:58 PM
April 10, 2013 8:58 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
exactly. he's got excellent bone structure in his face. and the pearls add just the right touch. i'm jealous!
April 10, 2013 8:59 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
great eyes, too. the only thing that slightly throws it off is the whisper of facial hair with the lipstick. one of the two need to go.
April 10, 2013 9:00 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
He is incredibly pretty, and stylish.
April 10, 2013 9:01 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
if my hair ever looked half as good as his, i likely wouldn't have cut it all off.

::really, really jealous!::
April 10, 2013 9:02 PM - Deleted
Getting weird in here
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:02 PM
April 10, 2013 9:02 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
lol! three women wishing for the prettiness of a man. is that the weird part? lol!
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:02 PM
April 10, 2013 9:03 PM - Legion
I have nothing whatsoever to add to this discussion.
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:03 PM
April 10, 2013 9:05 PM - Deleted
Yo legion - what's your favorite summer time treat? I like dem firecracker pops
April 10, 2013 9:06 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
rofl legion!
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April 10, 2013 9:07 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
dh, that one is no good. more like this...
April 10, 2013 9:08 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
oh my....
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April 10, 2013 9:10 PM - Legion
haha
nice ice pops!
April 10, 2013 9:12 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Here's one some of us can, errr, get behind:

http://www.vice.com/vice-meets/the-biggest-ass-in-brazil?utm_source=taboola&utm_campaign-video
April 10, 2013 9:15 PM - Deleted
Oh god. Vice. I already know its gonna be ridiculous


April 10, 2013 9:19 PM - Deleted
Dayuuuuuum
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April 10, 2013 9:20 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
nice booty, but not really big. i think arkady and i saw the biggest ass ever at king's plaza mall. it was HUUUUUUUGGGGEEEEEEEE! literally bigger than a watermelon.
April 10, 2013 9:32 PM - Partridge
I don't get it. Never will.
April 10, 2013 9:35 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Get what, LP?
April 10, 2013 9:38 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Attn Legion - cool and rare promotional video for Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" album.
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:38 PM
April 10, 2013 9:42 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Oops forgot link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NOOrH3-FFXo
April 10, 2013 9:42 PM - Partridge
Big butt love, Cobs. Snappy has tried to explain, but I don't get it.
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:42 PM
April 10, 2013 9:43 PM - petebklyn
I have friends who live in citylights and original buyers. Monthlies have not increased at all but they are skeptical on the finances. Prices I think for 2bedroom are about 600k now (on high floor with terrace and views). I didn't know they had 3bedrooms.

You asked other night about prop upstate. I think hudson river front props are the most desirable but of course most of them are estates. We had a condo on the hudson before the house. Our desire was for something where not just water view - but access for kayak and swimming. There are not many lakes in our neck of the woods but we needed to be local because of family(elderly MIL). We didn't even know about this little lake we are on even though a couple miles away.....got cheap for the area and time (of course worth less) because of major mold problems and essentially gutted the house.

April 10, 2013 9:44 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
it's kinda like a pretty sunset. it's gorgeous. it's amazing. you just sit back and watch it move, admiring it from afar :-)
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April 10, 2013 9:45 PM - ilovestoops
Evenin' - too tired to do anything requiring thinking so came to the OT.
Edited at April 10, 2013 9:45 PM
April 10, 2013 9:46 PM - ilovestoops
I don't think that guy is pretty - he looks mean.
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April 10, 2013 9:47 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
howdy, stoops!
April 10, 2013 9:51 PM - Legion
Fantastic sixyears.
How I wish I still had my collection of 70's rock shirts.
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April 10, 2013 9:54 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I don't get big boobie love.
April 10, 2013 9:57 PM - Deleted
quote:
You're an eccentric gay dude who talks to fish. High school girls in Iowa will love u. No joke


Do you KNOW where my female BFF is FROM?! iowa
April 10, 2013 9:57 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
big boobie love is definitely only in pictures for me. anything more than a handful is a waste.
April 10, 2013 9:58 PM - Partridge
Had dinner at a restaurant in Bay Ridge. An old favorite that I haven't been to in a year or so. A big place. A bit raucous with a retirement party in the next room. I looked around at all the patrons. All ages present, from babies to seniors. All races present although more Caucasians than any other. Not one hat on the head of any man. No attitude, just charm from the waitstaff. Not one beard or knit hat or vintage dress or plaid shirt.

An excellent meal and a reasonable bill. Not one peep about the chicken farmer or the string bean's soil conditions.

Refreshing!
April 10, 2013 10:00 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
i had some kick ass kale tonight. nom! i wish i had the rest packed up to bring home. i want it now. sigh.

time to hit the floor. nite everybody. sweet dreams to you all :-)
April 10, 2013 10:00 PM - sixyearsandcounting
LOL Snappy!

Legion, great article about the sad story of Syd Barrett: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2002/oct/06/biography.music

Ok, now back to reading.
April 10, 2013 10:01 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Ok Partridge, but you have to tell us the name of the restaurant.
April 10, 2013 10:02 PM - Deleted
I sent dog walker a mesage.. "feel free to use the vibrating chair\ whenever you want!"
lol

April 10, 2013 10:04 PM - Partridge
Oh, sorry. Would be a fun PLUSA dinner outing. 5th ave 75/74th sts.
April 10, 2013 10:06 PM - ilovestoops
I'm in for trying different neighborhoods for PLUSA get-togethers.

Night, snappy.
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April 10, 2013 10:12 PM - Deleted
im chary, part.

omfg obana is doubing the cig tax. Hey dude, how bout you double the clithing taxes on your wife and daughters? OH . yeah., hypocrite.

April 10, 2013 10:15 PM - Deleted
no one is gonna discuss this..

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April 10, 2013 10:15 PM - Deleted
My ex subletted in city lights - it was an ok bldg. the skyline view becomes sorta meh after a while. Surprised people pay such a premium for it.
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April 10, 2013 10:16 PM - Legion
thanks pete,
a lot of things to consider in a place upstate. Don't know if it's in the cards any time soon but it's always good to start looking into these things. There are so many beautiful places upstate too.

Yes, CityLights offered a convertible 3 bedroom option. A den/bedroom was the third space.
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April 10, 2013 10:16 PM - Partridge
Don't be chary. It's on the "R" train.
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April 10, 2013 10:18 PM - Legion
In theory is seems just right dh,
-1 stop to Manhattan on the 7
-all sorts of amenities
-doorman
-views

but I realize a lot of it has to do with the community, I know LIC is an interesting locale but I've never lived there so I couldn't opine about the long term vibe there.
April 10, 2013 10:21 PM - Arkady
I had a friend in City Lights. She loved it but had to move to DC - ailing father & new job.
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April 10, 2013 10:21 PM - Deleted
quote:
My ex

Am I the only one who LOL'd? (not sure why, but I did)


April 10, 2013 10:24 PM - Deleted
fyi, DH <3

NH!!!!!!!!!!!1


April 10, 2013 10:26 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Is anyone else sick of that effing photo? I'm so tempted to start deleting it.
April 10, 2013 10:28 PM - Partridge
It's pouring again! Doggie scared of the thunder.
April 10, 2013 10:31 PM - Partridge
I think you were still on sabbatical at the time, but Dave got fed up and did just that. I could get behind such high jinx.
April 10, 2013 10:33 PM - sixyearsandcounting
I think my dept (when I was teaching) had a holiday dinner there about ten years ago, Part. Good place if it's the same one I remember.
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April 10, 2013 10:34 PM - Deleted
Lic is weird. It should theoretically have a similar vibe to Williamsburg. I'm not talking about people or nightlife - they're both industrial/low rise crummy houses amd ugly condos. But lic feels weird. Maybe cuz there's a lot more active commercial business going on amd the traffic associated with it.
April 10, 2013 10:35 PM - Deleted
And even up high in the towers you could still hear the hum of the lie. And all the construction going on around it. It's weird
April 10, 2013 10:36 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
LOL, now that's funny! I could, would he notice?
April 10, 2013 10:44 PM - Partridge
Yes, he would. But he might be OK with it.
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April 10, 2013 10:44 PM - Partridge
That sounds right, Six. It is very popular for parties. Teachers, municipal works, bridal showers and so on. Multiple rooms for semi private affairs, so they can usually accommodate. Formally a pizza joint that made lots of money and completely renovated the building and went legit restaurant.

They have a broad menu, daily specials and have 1/2 price bottles of wine special on Tuesdays. I like Tuesdays for that reason very much. : )

Should we consider an outing to Southern Brooklyn some day? Stoops has her bags packed already.
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April 10, 2013 10:45 PM - ilovestoops
scary thunder
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April 10, 2013 10:46 PM - Deleted
Dang that thunder just set all the car alarms off on the block
April 10, 2013 10:46 PM - Deleted
LP what's the story wit your shop helper she sorta cute
April 10, 2013 10:47 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
well that was short lived. last clap of thunder shook the house and scared the shit outta mr. bu. pia's no longer here for him to hide under, so he just clawed the shit outta my boobies trying to get under me to hide. i'm up now!
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April 10, 2013 10:49 PM - Deleted
quote:
Is anyone else sick of that effing photo? I'm so tempted to start deleting it.


Please dont. I basically just told my roommates to SHOVE IT.
April 10, 2013 10:53 PM - Partridge
She is VERY cute!!! 1/2 Japanese, 1/2 native American. Very taken and hopefully wedding bells soon. She likes loser rocker dudes who stay out all night drinking. She is a lost artist and very lovable. Too late, DH. : ( She has even been know to make a bad decision or two.
April 10, 2013 10:55 PM - Partridge
Rob, you love them and need them. Try to work it out. Remember Legion's advice.
April 10, 2013 10:55 PM - Deleted
That last hit of thunder said it ALL for me.

Does the Univervse think I REALLY care about this smelly city? blech. sorry, but no. Moonfaces suck and this city has a major infestation,


April 10, 2013 11:01 PM - Partridge
Cobble, is BH back yet? Are you scared?
April 10, 2013 11:02 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
What happened.
April 10, 2013 11:03 PM - Partridge
Thunder.
April 10, 2013 11:05 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
BH is here with me, got home an hour ago. Scared? Of thunder?
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April 10, 2013 11:10 PM - Partridge
Why yes, of course. The thunder is scary. Mr Bu and PartridgeDog are besides themselves. I'm a little shaky too.

Glad he is home!!!!
April 10, 2013 11:11 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Thunder isn't bad here in the suburbs.
April 10, 2013 11:13 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm glad he's home. I think, despite the luxurious hotel, he's very glad to be home, too.
April 10, 2013 11:14 PM - Partridge
It's all the space between houses, open fields, cars in their garages. Yes, I see. You have lightning rod in place too, I'm sure.
April 10, 2013 11:15 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Part, I nominate the Salty Dog for a PLUSA outing.
April 10, 2013 11:16 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Perhaps, weather is different all the way over here sometimes. I barely heard the thunder.
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April 10, 2013 11:23 PM - Partridge
I'm game, Six. I have never stepped foot into the place before. Not my scene. Too many FDNY and gals looking for fireman husbands. But certainly a bar and more fun than a pizza joint. The place has been known to host quite a few nasty fights, though.
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April 10, 2013 11:25 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oh no, I won't go to cop or fireman bars. Always a bad scene, not for me, no thanks. Been there, done that, saw the blood on the sidewalk!
April 10, 2013 11:25 PM - Partridge
This party is over for me. Night, folks!
April 10, 2013 11:26 PM - sixyearsandcounting
It's more civilized if you sit at the tables in back. Also, no moonfaces in sight. I've never seen a fight there, though when I went it was with teaching colleagues after work, so still late afternoon/early evening.
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April 10, 2013 11:26 PM - Partridge
Yep, that's the place Cobble.
April 10, 2013 11:27 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Moi aussi, BH is already snoozing, I should be, too. G'nite.
April 10, 2013 11:27 PM - Deleted
Bummer
April 10, 2013 11:28 PM - Deleted
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April 10, 2013 11:33 PM - Partridge
580. anyone gonna take it to 600 posts? I quit.
April 10, 2013 11:34 PM - rf
Bummer what?