Wednesday Open Thread
March 6, 2013 6:11 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Spring is just around the corner!

389 comments
March 6, 2013 6:24 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
looking at the word 'wednesday.' who the hell decided to spell it that way? makes no sense. based on the way it's pronounced, it should be spelled 'whensday.' just my .02

have a great day losers :-)
#1
March 6, 2013 6:31 AM - Arkady
It's a combination of what's called the Great German Vowel Shift - described initially by the Brothers Grimm - applied to the name of the god Woden for whom the day was named.
Hurray for Spring!! Adorable photo.
#2
March 6, 2013 7:33 AM - Deleted
Of course Arkady would know that!!
#3
March 6, 2013 7:41 AM - Arkady
Word.
#4
March 6, 2013 8:13 AM - Slope4Eva
GM. Juan was doing great yesterday. Brain is draining already, now just have to watch that the fluids get absorbed. He's coughing which concerns me. I'm worried that he's not swallowing properly. They called for a chest XRay, I'll find out today.

Bizarre moment of the day yesterday. I texted one of the girls (step-daughters) and I asked how her 87 y/o grandmother was (she's been very ill). Turns out she had passed away 45 minutes earlier. Who was she asking for???? Juan. Heck no, lady, keep your hands off of him. This has me freaking out. While I don't believe in "ghosts", I do have a very open mind to the wonders of the afterlife.
Edited at March 6, 2013 8:13 AM
#5
March 6, 2013 8:27 AM - dibs
Very bizarre, Eva.

GM
#6
March 6, 2013 8:34 AM - Deleted
won't you all please sign this petition to make R Kelly's Ignition remix the new national anthem??

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/change-national-anthem-r-kellys-2003-hit-ignition-remix/Rm8SC7FP


#7
March 6, 2013 8:37 AM - dibs
Fuck off, dh
Edited at March 6, 2013 8:37 AM
#8
March 6, 2013 8:37 AM - Deleted
ok
#9
March 6, 2013 8:39 AM - Slope4Eva
R. Kelly is a pedophile, isn't he?
Edited at March 6, 2013 8:39 AM
#10
March 6, 2013 8:41 AM - RowerChick
Snappy,
Beautiful. It's weird but in Finnish, all the other days sound very similar to English. The only vaguely Finnish sounding day is wednesday or keskiviko as the case may be.
#11
March 6, 2013 8:41 AM - petebklyn
is it morning yet?
Edited at March 6, 2013 8:41 AM
#12
March 6, 2013 8:45 AM - Deleted
i think so - or he peed on like a barely legal girl. something nasty
#13
March 6, 2013 8:46 AM - Deleted
mmmmmmm rapefruit


http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2013/03/todays_mankato_free_press_ran_story_about_rapefruit_on_cover_of_food_section_image.php
Edited at March 6, 2013 8:46 AM
#14
March 6, 2013 8:48 AM - More4Less
don't talk to me about spring when there's snow forecasted for next few days
#15
March 6, 2013 8:49 AM - dibs
Sounds like the storm is arriving later...Thursday night up here....maybe 6" of snow but hedging on whether temps go below freezing.
#16
March 6, 2013 8:52 AM - dibs
For anyone refinancing, I strongly recommend Quicken Loans through Schwab. I think maybe I got some white glove service but it was incredibly quick and everything either signed or available to print online. Just set up the payments.
Edited at March 6, 2013 8:52 AM
#17
March 6, 2013 8:52 AM - More4Less
DCB's HS just made the bad headlines with their hazing, sexual harassment, etc scandal:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/email-shows-history-bronx-science-hazing-article-1.1280566
#18
March 6, 2013 9:00 AM - rf
BxSci has a lunatic principal, which is never a good thing in the NYC school system.
http://nymag.com/news/features/bronx-high-school-of-science-2011-12/

Of course Brooklyn Tech had its crazy guy before the current principal.
#19
March 6, 2013 9:05 AM - dibs
Francis Scott Key has some skeletons in HIS closet.
#20
March 6, 2013 9:06 AM - More4Less
I would've gone to BxSci if it wasn't so damn far compared to Tech
#21
March 6, 2013 9:12 AM - Slopefarm
A skeleton key, I imagine.

dh, how about Roadrunner vs. Dream Weaver as Massachusetts state rock song? I posted a link to the story yesterday.

Which reminds me, Coyote v. Acme (I think by Christopher Buckley) is a hilarious parody of legalese.
#22
March 6, 2013 9:13 AM - Slopefarm
Farmhand did not even list Bx Sci on her specialized exam. 9 more days. No drama about it at home, yet.
#23
March 6, 2013 9:19 AM - rf
I was just thinking about the big letters, Slopey.

My kid didn't list BxSci or Stuy. Really Tech was the only school on the list in which she was interested.

Fingers crossed for the Farmhand!
#24
March 6, 2013 9:19 AM - Slopefarm
An essay/book review on the decline of the pun in favor of neolexic portmanteaus. Some of our favorite, um, words are discussed therein.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_good_word/2013/03/chillax_wikipedia_and_bridezilla_are_not_puns_against_adjoinages.html
#25
March 6, 2013 9:19 AM - rf
And for Juan as well of course!
Edited at March 6, 2013 9:19 AM
#26
March 6, 2013 9:22 AM - Slopefarm
Farmhand's ELA class is doing a unit on Shakespeare -- sonnets, Romeo and Juliet, mainly. But the teacher couldn't help referencing a certain fatal day in Julius Caesar. So now they're all going around saying "can you believe we're getting our letters on the Ides of March!"
Edited at March 6, 2013 9:23 AM
#27
March 6, 2013 9:24 AM - dibs
Oh god, Arkady's gonna have a field day with that article.
Edited at March 6, 2013 9:25 AM
#28
March 6, 2013 9:27 AM - DeLepp
dibs, interesting on what has transpired with DOW. Surprised about exxon and GE.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/05/business/the-dows-movers.html?ref=economy
#29
March 6, 2013 9:28 AM - Arkady
I thought the article was meh. Too strident - should've been lighter & punnier.
#30
March 6, 2013 9:31 AM - DeLepp
Well if you had to toil in Boston:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324678604578340424076327356.html?mod=WSJ_hps_sections_realestate#%2F1

Must have been tremendous as a single famly.
#31
March 6, 2013 9:31 AM - Deleted
DIBS;

A friend of mine had the same experience with Quicken Loans.
Edited at March 6, 2013 9:31 AM
#32
March 6, 2013 9:33 AM - Deleted
sorry, LMAOOOOO again @ scalia
Edited at March 6, 2013 9:33 AM
#33
March 6, 2013 9:33 AM - RowerChick
I went to Midwood, mainly because my cool Grandma lived a few blocks away & I could go and visit her. Then she passed away the summer between middle school & high school. Midwood was still a decent school, but I missed my Grandma-especially freshman year.
Edited at March 6, 2013 9:33 AM
#34
March 6, 2013 9:33 AM - Deleted
dude he's got MAD BOOKS
#35
March 6, 2013 9:35 AM - Slopefarm
LOL. Nice avatar, benson.

Reminds me that I had a Fed Courts professor visting that semester from another law school who told a story about going on an anti-Scalia rant during a class once, then finding out one of Scalia's kids was in the class. Since then, I think I've heard or read very similar stories several times from different law professors who taught at different schools. It's quite possible. he's got a lot of kids and a bunch of them went to top law schools.
#36
March 6, 2013 9:39 AM - Slopefarm
dh -- those books are case reporters. Just the published decisions of federal courts in chronological order (those books could either be F.2d or F.3d (Circuit Court decisions) or F.Supp or F.Supp.2d (district courts). The F.2ds run up to 999 volumes then start again at 1 for the F.3d series. I think they are in the upper 300s now for F.3d but there is no need to have them in hard copy as you would never browse these books and everything is online. It just looks really legal to have them around.
#37
March 6, 2013 9:40 AM - Slopefarm
Rower, have you seen the steel & glass bridge over bedford Ave to the new science wing at Midwood?
#38
March 6, 2013 9:40 AM - dibs
It's probably right on The Common too!!!
#39
March 6, 2013 9:44 AM - DeLepp
dibs, probably. Though one of my fav blocks is union park in south end.
#40
March 6, 2013 9:46 AM - dibs
DeLepp, my brother works for P&G and we were talking about them suffering through bad stock performance for a long time. They have a profit sharing plan that consists SOLELY of PG stock (a very bad wy to manage it) until the employee turns 50. Then they can start to diversify it. That was too late for all those who retired over the past 5-10 years. My brother is turning 50 next year and the stock has started to move up over the past few months.

i don't own it. i still own my DuPont but bought that in 2009 with a 7% yield and will keep it.
Edited at March 6, 2013 9:47 AM
#41
March 6, 2013 9:46 AM - Deleted
oh delepp - the bartender at the mayflower asked for you last night - apparently now you are "my father" hahahaha
#42
March 6, 2013 9:47 AM - Arkady
Books are probably just wallpaper.
#43
March 6, 2013 9:48 AM - sixyearsandcounting
"Reminds me that I had a Fed Courts professor visting that semester from another law school who told a story about going on an anti-Scalia rant during a class once, then finding out one of Scalia's kids was in the class."

Haha Slopey, I heard a different version of the same story when I was at Georgetown. A professor was teaching at Georgetown's campus in Qatar and the class was discussing democracy. A student asked him what he thought of democracy in Qatar and the class laughed. The professor said "Ha! What democracy?" or something like that, and then went on a long rant about the lack of freedoms in Qatar. At the end of class, the student who had asked the question came up to him with a friend. The friend asked the prof - do you know who this student is? It turns out he was the son of the Ruler of Qatar. "Well, Mohammad [or whatever his name was]," the prof asked, "How are the prisons in Qatar?" The prof is still teaching there, btw.
#44
March 6, 2013 9:48 AM - Deleted
I, Antonin Bensonus Pontificus Maxiumus, teach my children to not be concerned with the slings and arrows of lesser mortals. Indeed, I find that after a week of dealing with feminazi colleagues, a duck-hunting trip with Dick Cheney is necessary to keep things in perspective.
#45
March 6, 2013 9:51 AM - dibs
Despite that being funny, benson, a few here will be unimused.
#46
March 6, 2013 9:52 AM - Deleted
eagerly awaiting who the "disingenuous broad of the day" is
#47
March 6, 2013 9:53 AM - rf
Benson, do you think Scalia is enough of a Rush Limbagh fan to use the word "feminazi"?
#48
March 6, 2013 9:53 AM - rf
And with that, I am off for the weekly food shopping trip with my dad.
#49
March 6, 2013 9:53 AM - Slopefarm
"feminazi colleagues"

Kagan? Ginsberg? Sotomayor? . . . Breyer?
#50
March 6, 2013 9:54 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Slopey's 9:39 is incomprehensible.
#51
March 6, 2013 9:55 AM - Arkady
No comment:
http://tinyurl.com/bg2nk2t
#52
March 6, 2013 9:56 AM - DeLepp
dibs, that sounds like it is would be against erisa rules. Where is the fiduciary responsibility to the workers...that sounds more like responsibility to shareholders.

dh, well I certainly could be. Would have been cushy life as I had nice union job when I was 20.
#53
March 6, 2013 9:57 AM - DeLepp
Building here is creaking from the wind. Going to be a noisy day.
Edited at March 6, 2013 9:57 AM
#54
March 6, 2013 10:00 AM - dibs
Snowing up here now...the really beautiful light snow. This isn't part of ther bigger storm arriving on Thusday though, just part of Winter up north.
#55
March 6, 2013 10:07 AM - MontroseMorris
Brava, Arkady!
#56
March 6, 2013 10:10 AM - sixyearsandcounting
"No comment"

Almost never heard on the OT.
#57
March 6, 2013 10:11 AM - Slope4Eva
Where's CGar? I think the last I saw him on here he wasn't feeling well.
#58
March 6, 2013 10:12 AM - dibs
LOL....
Edited at March 6, 2013 10:12 AM
#59
March 6, 2013 10:16 AM - dibs
When Chavez took over in 1999, their oil production was 3.2 MM BPD and is now down to 2.2 MM BPD. Inflation has been out of control.

Interest rates and CDS prices have declined dramatically today after his death.
#60
March 6, 2013 10:17 AM - Deleted
Eva;

Not sure you saw my message last week. I was in the Baron last week for a ceremony, and it looks great. Really swift recovery from the flood (except for the pier). I am also glad to see that you fulfilled the highest obligation of a Knight (on Juan's behalf), and particpated in the annual Super Bowl pool!
#61
March 6, 2013 10:18 AM - RowerChick
Slopey,
I passed by it on my way to the Rockaways when I helped the Mormons help my friend with her house. I thought it looked good.
#62
March 6, 2013 10:33 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: dh, i signed the petition. and for all the losers on here that don't know the song (and therefore are unamerican)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLQwalX6TUA
Edited at March 6, 2013 10:33 AM
#63
March 6, 2013 10:37 AM - Slope4Eva
Hi, Benson. Yes, I meant to reply. I was in the bar only, I didn't look in the ballroom. Yes, of course, his beloved favorite day of the year, Super Bowl Sunday. The guys called me one day to tell me they were sitting looking at his empty boxes, lol. They are a great group of guys keeping in touch with me and visiting.
#64
March 6, 2013 10:39 AM - Deleted
haha randi! imagine that shit bumpin at the olympics!
#65
March 6, 2013 10:40 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: imagine that shit bumpin at one of dave's formal dinner parties!
#66
March 6, 2013 10:41 AM - Deleted
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
#67
March 6, 2013 10:41 AM - Deleted
"after the party it's......cognac and cigars"
#68
March 6, 2013 10:43 AM - Deleted
I am so happy this morning. Made up with a BFF who I met in line at a Mary T. show in 2003. We are going to go to the 1993 show at the New Museum this weekend, and then to a taping of Wheel of Fortune the week after. When she got married I got a little distant, but we still hung out. When she got pregnant I got a little douchey and distanced myself ? Sadly, she miscarriaged, but the distancing myself away was too much to just pick up and be friends again (does that make any sense?). Mostly, my problem really. I’ve done this with everyone who gets married and has kids, it’s like I no longer want to be their friends any more. Is that lame or is that just normal? I know it sounds awful, but I feel like once people have kids there is nothing left in the terms of friendship when all they focus on is their family. Also, I think friends who do wind up having kids automatically assume I can’t stand kids and distance themselves from me. Dropping the “C.F” word over the years has really come to bite me in the ass…



#69
March 6, 2013 10:45 AM - Deleted
" Also, I think friends who do wind up having kids automatically assume I can’t stand kids and distance themselves from me."

wow, you don't say?
#70
March 6, 2013 10:45 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: my 2cents on chavez.....putting aside his human rights record.....Chavez’s first decade in office saw Venezuelan GDP more than double and both infant mortality and unemployment almost halved...under Chavez’s brand of socialism, poverty in Venezuela plummeted, that left the country with the third lowest poverty rate in Latin America....college enrollment has more than doubled, millions of people have access to health care for the first time and the number of people eligible for public pensions has quadrupled.
#71
March 6, 2013 10:47 AM - Slopefarm
"Dropping the “C.F” word over the years has really come to bite me in the ass…"

So why do you say it? You seem self-aware enough to know that it annoys people and makes people you like want to distance themselves from you.
#72
March 6, 2013 10:49 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: that's nice rob. maybe back off the palpable disdain of children aka crotchfruit, and you won't have to worry about it in the future? i mean you can still THINK those thoughts, just keep your mouth shut. take the high road. he who knows speaks not.


#73
March 6, 2013 10:49 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: jinx slope.
#74
March 6, 2013 10:50 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: "You seem self-aware enough"

wait, we talking about the same *rob*????
#75
March 6, 2013 10:54 AM - Slopefarm
Just in response to his 10:43, randi. At least in that post (if no other), he seems to know these things about himself and how others respond to him, so let's encourage some self-awareness. It couldn't hurt.
#76
March 6, 2013 10:55 AM - Deleted
quote:
So why do you say it? You seem self-aware enough to know that it annoys people and makes people you like want to distance themselves from you.

It's never visibly annoyed anyone I've said it around. It HAS however probably made some people think I am anti-children. I really didn't think so many people would have kids, but I figure like 90% of people I know (friends and family) now DO have kids at this point. The 10% who don't are actually ALL MEGA FREAKS. :-/ oh well.

I gots my fish

#77
March 6, 2013 10:57 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: i never took your comments as being anti-children as a whole, i took it as more anti annoying moonfaces in brooklyn and the way they go about having/raising children.
Edited at March 6, 2013 10:57 AM
#78
March 6, 2013 10:59 AM - Deleted
no, there was definitely a good bit of pure anti-child bile spewed.
#79
March 6, 2013 11:04 AM - Deleted
quote:
i never took your comments as being anti-children as a whole, i took it as more anti annoying moonfaces in brooklyn and the way they go about having/raising children.


oh good. that is essentially it. I don't know what DH is talking about, I never really was trash talkey about children themselves as individuals, hells I was one once. I guess I am just not a fan of encroaching child-centric culture and lifestyle. I guess because I essentially raised myself and was feral, I find modern day child-obsessed culture really bizarre to my world view. I don't use the C.F. word anymore though. And I try not to get annoyed about the earned income tax credit for dependents. It never occurred to me, through all my bitching and moaning about it, that my grandparents probably got that tax refund because of me as well.

Edited at March 6, 2013 11:04 AM
#80
March 6, 2013 11:06 AM - Slopefarm
I'll just say for me, I can deal in good humor (no I'm not selling ice cream) with a lot of stereotyping and caricaturing about Park Slope, dads, park Slope dads, etc. I wince almost every time rob posts the C.F. word and rants about kids. It does often read like hate, even if that's not what he intended.
Edited at March 6, 2013 11:06 AM
#81
March 6, 2013 11:09 AM - Deleted
"hate" is a harsh and loaded word. It really was never about hate. There's tons of babies and kids in my building... trust me, if there was any hate coming out of me toward them I'd have been bitch slapped from here to ohio and back.


Edited at March 6, 2013 11:09 AM
#82
March 6, 2013 11:15 AM - Slope4Eva
I still find it amusing how people are stereotyping each other in these ways. I bet its all non-native Brooklynites, too.
#83
March 6, 2013 11:16 AM - Deleted
yeah, i don't think you hate kids. i think you envy them..


ok no more rob psychoanalysis from me today.



whens dis snow coming?
#84
March 6, 2013 11:20 AM - Deleted
LOL. I am NOT envious of them. That would mean I would have to deal with their parents! Oh HELLS no!


Edited at March 6, 2013 11:20 AM
#85
March 6, 2013 11:22 AM - kazootite
I don't read rob as hating children, although some others to read it that way. I am seeing something of a wondering about life with children vs. without. Taking just rob now for an example (- sorry rob). I wonder how many people here who have no children feel a gap in their lives. Some will not be parents because of a chosen life style, and some here have expressed an inability to have children, or lack of an appropriate mate prevented it. There often comes a time in life (maybe around 35) when one thinks - whatever I do or don't do about this now, will be final.

Further, rob said something to the effect of seeing married people with children wherever he goes, and feeling left out of this (well, maybe I have that a little bit wrong). Anyway my point is this, said by a friend and it rings true: she said, "when I had my first child, I felt as if everyone was traveling on an airplane and I had to get off." Ok, this was a woman who had 4 kids and was a good mom. But either way, a person feels left out of something. I think back and am amazed at the wonderful and interesting single people who stayed or came into my life after I had children, and who visited me when I couldn't go anywhere.


#86
March 6, 2013 11:26 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Had to buy a new bodega umbrella as I left my old one at 4th Ave. Pub. $5 out the window. Used to be $3.
#87
March 6, 2013 11:27 AM - Deleted
Yeah I am noticing more and more, the older I get, even though I am genetically gay, that people look down upon people without children and families and mates. It's bizarre to me. I mean what is left? Hanging out with 20 year olds?! Having pets at my age now just comes across, to MANY people whether they are vocal about it or not, as failure in life. I mean I guess biologically that is true. I just wish culture didn't clutch around the concept of family as much as it does. It causes evolutionary stress in individuals who do not go down that route.
#88
March 6, 2013 11:33 AM - Deleted
bedroom tank set up....


#89
March 6, 2013 11:34 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: my gay neighbors adopted a baby. you could do that, maybe find one with a super ghetto name, that's like a fantasy of yours, no???
#90
March 6, 2013 11:34 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: .
#91
March 6, 2013 11:35 AM - Deleted
Jamie Lee hiding in her Japanese house

Edited at March 6, 2013 11:35 AM
#92
March 6, 2013 11:36 AM - Arkady
Parents have more time for friends w/o kids as children grow older (& often are desperate to be w/ people who have other interests.)
Eva - Thrilling news about Juan!!!
#93
March 6, 2013 11:36 AM - Deleted
Studley Dudley


Edited at March 6, 2013 11:36 AM
#94
March 6, 2013 11:38 AM - More4Less
wind picked up and rain started and I ran home from them errands but it looks like it stopped now but I aint going out to do more errands
Edited at March 6, 2013 11:38 AM
#95
March 6, 2013 11:39 AM - Slopefarm
Rob, we've got quite a few friends who do not have children and it's not an issue between us. But you seem to have a chio on your shoulder about the time and attention involved in raising kids and you wear that resentment on your sleeve. When farmhand was young we had friends did not have kids who coul dreally get into the joy we had raising a baby/toddler, etc. Others resented it and would start discussing their pet's vet appointments as if it were comparable. Parenting just takes a certain amount of time and focus and if you can appreciate that rather than resent it, it will be easy for you to be friends with people who are parents and for them to enjoy your friendship. There are also plenty of ways to live a good and meaningful life without being a parent and with friends who share similar interests. Some stuff is just going to be oriented towards kids and parents. it is not meant as a criticism of you.
Edited at March 6, 2013 11:39 AM
#96
March 6, 2013 11:39 AM - Slopefarm
Nice pix, rob.
Edited at March 6, 2013 11:39 AM
#97
March 6, 2013 11:47 AM - bxgrl
"Cheney, who came from a family of Wyoming Democrats, says his conservative bent was strengthened watching the anti-Vietnam war protests at the University of Wisconsin, where he was pursuing a doctorate and dodging the draft. "

I think that says everything about Cheney. Thanks for posting that Arkady.
#98
March 6, 2013 11:52 AM - Donatella
I am sitting in an airport waiting for my flight to Kansas City (eat your hearts out). The flight is delayed and many flights cancelled later. I will have a meeting tomorrow am and zoom out after that. 3 inches of snow and the world comes to an end.

BTW, the sequestration issue with TSA is NOT happening at Newark. With Janet Napolitano's dire warnings, I expected chaos. No issues whatsoever.
#99
March 6, 2013 11:57 AM - Arkady
Radio says flight delays are because of wind, not precip.
March 6, 2013 11:57 AM - DeLepp
haha dona, or maxine water's "170 million jobs will be lost".

have a safe flight.
Edited at March 6, 2013 11:57 AM
March 6, 2013 11:59 AM - kazootite
"that people look down upon people without children and families and mates."

Generally, Rob, I think this is untrue although you may perceive it that way at times. It is even likely that some of them look at your freedom and envy your life. You can go where you want and take part in things that they cannot.

Anyway, everyone has a valid life and much to contribute. [adding to the above post]

More later... our helper is arriving.


March 6, 2013 12:00 PM - bxgrl
I'm not so sure, Kazoo. I was unable to have kids, but I can remember several instances where someone made rather rotten comments about how to being a parent limited my ability to comment or participate in certain aspects of life. I've also been told I will never understand the greatest mystery of life because I couldn't. I even had someone tell me I should be happy to pay taxes for schools because children are the only thing that's important. so, in a sense he's right. People with kids think (not all of them, mind you, but the attitude is out there), that people without kids are vestigial organs.
Edited at March 6, 2013 12:00 PM
March 6, 2013 12:02 PM - Donatella
Rob, there is a divide between parents and non parents. It can be an uncomfortable thing or not. If you don't have that responsibility, your life will have a different focus. But if you want, there are so many things you can do to enjoy kids, help them grow up. Did you ever see Auntie Mame? As an aunt, I had a different (and cool) relationship with my nieces and nephews. They could relate to me differently. There IS a place for you to enjoy kids and young people, just not the traditional parent role.
March 6, 2013 12:04 PM - DeLepp
bxgrl, sounds like you know rotten people.
March 6, 2013 12:05 PM - sixyearsandcounting
I've found that it's harder to keep up friendships with parents, only because schedules change so much after birth, it costs money to pay for a babysitter, and so on. Also when I go to parents' homes for dinner it's just not the same, since topics of conversations change, people moderate their language in front of kids, and all that. I've also seen people who were not good friends become parents at the same time, and suddenly develop a deep bond and spend lots of time together. Nothing judgmental, it's just that life circumstances change.
March 6, 2013 12:08 PM - Deleted
I, Antonin Benson Pontificus Maximus, deem Maxine Waters to be the dumb broad of the day.
March 6, 2013 12:08 PM - Donatella
Bxgrl, re those comments to you, they were cruel and stupid. Many women chose not to have kids, but just as often there is a story a women isn't wearing on a sandwich board on her chest and the fact that she doesn't have kids might be a souce of sadness, particularly if she is unable to have kids for some reason.
March 6, 2013 12:11 PM - More4Less
safe flight Donatella. I take it that your wrist is largely recovered now - as you were able to power thru with it during this tons of stuff to move
March 6, 2013 12:17 PM - Slopefarm
For balance, I think we may need to add another category. PAOTD.
Edited at March 6, 2013 12:17 PM
March 6, 2013 12:18 PM - bxgrl
DeLepp- not bad people- jsut some really insensitive people.

Thanks Dona- I'm sure I was more sensitive after I had the ectopic and then the full hysterectomy. But having my niece and nephew, and the kids of my friends around, I was included. One thing i do have are great friends- I know you met some of them at our going away party. I wouldn't be standing today without those people. Plus- I'm a great aunt! I shared my toys. :)
March 6, 2013 12:24 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: where's dave?
March 6, 2013 12:26 PM - pepper
rf, I saw that BX Science article when it came out. I read it because the one man picket show mentioned was my boss for several years at my previous place of employment. He seems to have gone off the deep end a bit... I wonder if he is still picketing.
Edited at March 6, 2013 12:26 PM
March 6, 2013 12:29 PM - Donatella
M4L, the wrist is fully healed, but I still have stiffness in my hand and don't have 100 % extension of my fingers. And the hand and forearm are still a little swollen. It takes a long time, but functionally everything is working fine. Thanks M4L and Delepp for the good travel wishes. I hope we get out of here. Bxgrl, we get by with the help of family and friends. I really liked your sister and her husband btw. I spent a lot of time speaking to your brother in law. Very nice guy..
March 6, 2013 12:30 PM - pepper
Also, I read an article the other day about a kid who commutes 2.5 hours each way from Far Rockaway to attend Bx Science. Now that's commitment!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/in_for_the_long_haul_Vtd5iMfGo73IiFdkbU7KWO
Edited at March 6, 2013 12:30 PM
March 6, 2013 12:35 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: pepper, i had a friend who commuted every day from bayside queens to bx science. he says it was a nightmare but worth it in the end. but doesnt bayside have like the best schools in the city???
Edited at March 6, 2013 12:34 PM
March 6, 2013 12:37 PM - pepper
I don't really know anything about NYC schools randi. Didn't grow up here and no kids. I only took an interest in BX Science because of the connection to my former boss. How long would the commute from bayside to Bx Science be?
Edited at March 6, 2013 12:37 PM
March 6, 2013 12:44 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: apparently in north korea they play hoops with different rules....

"[I]n North Korea, where basketball, with little contact with the outside world, has evolved like the tortoises in the Galapagos Islands. Chinese media have reported that the country even developed its own scoring system, with three points for a dunk, four points for a three-pointer that does not touch the rim and eight points for a basket scored in the final three seconds. Miss a free throw, and it's minus one."


March 6, 2013 12:44 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: .
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March 6, 2013 12:48 PM - Deleted
hah - that would probably be more exciting to watch
Edited at March 6, 2013 12:48 PM
March 6, 2013 12:51 PM - kazootite
"... instances where someone made rather rotten comments about how to being a parent limited my ability to comment or participate in certain aspects of life."

Bx, to quote dave, those people are morons, retards and idiots.
March 6, 2013 12:55 PM - Deleted
quote:
Others resented it and would start discussing their pet's vet appointments as if it were comparable.

Um. It is comparable. My fish are just as important as peoples' children. See, this is the thing that annoys me about people with kids. They think kids are more important than peoples pets. They are not.


March 6, 2013 12:56 PM - Arkady
My next door neighbor's kid goes to Bx Sci - graduates this year - & there are a couple of others around here. Takes them upwards of an hour & a quarter. OTOH, kids going to Trinity & other Manhattan private schools have anywhere from 45 mins. to an hour.
March 6, 2013 12:59 PM - Deleted
uh no rob - children grow up and contribute to society. pets consume and die.
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March 6, 2013 1:04 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: rob, here is a word you should learn

anthropomorphize (nthr-p-môrfz): To ascribe human characteristics to things not human.
March 6, 2013 1:04 PM - kazootite
Pets give love, dh.
March 6, 2013 1:07 PM - RowerChick
Rob,

I have some friends who took to "pitying" me when they got married & had kids. Utterly annoying. And then I have real friends. People who I have known for ages that got married & had kids, but never lorded it over me. I also have plenty of friends who didn't find their "soul-mates" until they were well into their forties or fifties. And I know a few women who were single and wanted a child so badly that they went the adoption route.
The friends who have pitied me, I no longer consider to be real friends. But I love my real friends & think their kids are awesome.
Edited at March 6, 2013 1:07 PM
March 6, 2013 1:12 PM - Deleted
quote:
But if you want, there are so many things you can do to enjoy kids, help them grow up.

LOL. Why would someone want to do that? People should take care of their own kids! It's not like I am angry cuz I don't have kids (sorry but they seem like a TON of work) I just get angry when people have them and then kinda float away and turn into different kinds of people. I mean I guess it's normal. Perhaps I need to join one of those No Womb Societies.

March 6, 2013 1:12 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: kazoo, see my 1:04....
March 6, 2013 1:15 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: honestly, i'd argue that the majority of over zealous parents are no different than over zealous pet owners- their motivations are more selfish than they are noble, they care more about what they get out of the kid or the pet than the other way around.
March 6, 2013 1:15 PM - Deleted
love is a human emotion. pets give affection, usually in response for making sure they don't die.
March 6, 2013 1:15 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: we should stop this, the OT is turning into park slope parents or some shit
March 6, 2013 1:15 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: nailed it DH

(nh)
March 6, 2013 1:16 PM - Deleted
quote:
uh no rob - children grow up and contribute to society. pets consume and die.


uh... 47% of humans also do nothing but consume and die too you know...


March 6, 2013 1:16 PM - Deleted
And my fish food aint coming out of anyone elses tax paying pockets.

Okay, this convo is beyond absurd. lol

Edited at March 6, 2013 1:16 PM
March 6, 2013 1:18 PM - Deleted
quote:
love is a human emotion. pets give affection, usually in response for making sure they don't die.

Heidi Fleiss fish gives me psychoanlysis. While that's not love, per se, it's way more than many humans are able to give.

March 6, 2013 1:18 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: 47% of humans also do nothing but consume and die too you know...

i hope that i am part of the 53%
March 6, 2013 1:19 PM - Deleted
ni·hil·ism
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Noun
The rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless.
Extreme skepticism, according to which nothing in the world has a real existence.
Edited at March 6, 2013 1:19 PM
March 6, 2013 1:32 PM - bxgrl
Thanks Dona- yes, my bro-in-law is an amazing person. Great photographer/printmaker and teacher. They mentioned talking with yo and liking yo very much too.

Thanks Kazoo- hope all is well with you. I know you were going through a lot with your mom.


I'm going to side with rob and kazoo on this one. Animals do feel love and affection- it goes beyond just feed me or I'll die. Maybe it's hard to explain to people who look at animals just as a pet and don't really connect with them other than in a I'm superior-you're inferior kind of way. And no- they aren't children, but they are living creatures that have as much right to inhabit the planet as humans do. Maybe we don't think they're that important or intelligent because we simply don't speak their language. On the other hand, considering how many of us are cat staff, you have to wonder who really is the more intelligent species. :)
Edited at March 6, 2013 1:32 PM
March 6, 2013 1:36 PM - kazootite
Okay, dogs give love. I'm not sure about other animals and not much experience.

March 6, 2013 1:36 PM - Deleted
well you're all crazy cat ladies so :-P

;)
March 6, 2013 1:39 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: "Animals do feel love and affection- it goes beyond just feed me or I'll die."

what is your proof?

"they are living creatures that have as much right to inhabit the planet as humans do."

no one is saying all animals should be eradicated from the earth. not sure your point here.


think of it this way- we eat animals, and it is perfectly acceptable. eating humans, not so much.
March 6, 2013 1:40 PM - DeadCatBounce
"uh... 47% of humans also do nothing but consume and die too you know..."
Do you know my ex-wife?
March 6, 2013 1:44 PM - Deleted
absolutely not.

we're getting off topic here.


the original point was that it's asinine to equate RAISING a child and taking care of an animal. if you love your pet, that's cool.
March 6, 2013 1:48 PM - Deleted
quote:
think of it this way- we eat animals, and it is perfectly acceptable. eating humans, not so much.

There are humans who eat other humans and it is perfectly acceptable in their culture. There are also people who find eating animals unacceptable. Me personally, would NEVER put a fish in my mouth as fish have saved my soul.


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March 6, 2013 1:48 PM - Deleted
"DH, I don't know quite how to say this. Or ask this. How does one describe the ladies du jour at your apt? Is that love? Oh, never mind. :) :) Oy!"

i really don't even know what this means. of course not. it's hanging out and gettin freaky.
Edited at March 6, 2013 1:48 PM
March 6, 2013 1:48 PM - Arkady
Your categories are too broad for a meaningful discussion.
March 6, 2013 1:49 PM - Deleted
no need to name call arkady.
March 6, 2013 1:49 PM - Arkady
We obviously need a new topic:
March 6, 2013 1:50 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: you should eat fish, its really healthy. might offset the effect of all those cigs.
March 6, 2013 1:50 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: new topic- the HOTD over >>>>>> is a fucking joke.
March 6, 2013 1:54 PM - Deleted
looks like a toaster
March 6, 2013 1:56 PM - Deleted
quote:
the original point was that it's asinine to equate RAISING a child and taking care of an animal.

But you are wrong. If one is unable to take care of their pet the pet will die. There is no support system. If one is unable to feed, house, or medicate their babies, then tax payers are forced to pay for that. Do you not see the difference? You need to take a dog out to poop and pee at least three times a day. Babies just do it in a diaper. Then they learn how to do it in a toilet. Raising children is NOT difficult, but it can be MADE difficult I guess if one chooses, but at base level human babies are no more difficult to raise than cats, dogs, and gerbils. Human vaginas and testicles are not.that.special.

March 6, 2013 1:59 PM - Deleted
quote:
you should eat fish, its really healthy. might offset the effect of all those cigs.

Don't be so preachey and judgey. Not everyone aspires to be 100 years old leeching off society.
March 6, 2013 2:02 PM - Deleted
Okay for reals change of topic. I sound like I just went off my meds or something hahaha.

What is everyone looking forward to getting from the easter bunny this year?!

March 6, 2013 2:06 PM - kazootite
"we're getting off topic here."

Okay, dh.

March 6, 2013 2:06 PM - DeLepp
I'll be getting a sun burn as I'll be in texas.
March 6, 2013 2:08 PM - kazootite
Rob!! Kids are harder to raise than puppies. That's it.
March 6, 2013 2:10 PM - Deleted
No, they are NOT. Not at base line anyway.
Pacifier = chew toy
crib = crate
gerber = alpo
wee wee pads = diaper (except most normal people take the dog OUTSIDE.) you dont have to take a human baby outside in the snow and the rain.

Tell me what exactly is harder about having a baby than a puppy? There are some animals that are easier to take of yes, but babies fall in line somewhere between guinea pigs and lizards when it comes to care.

March 6, 2013 2:14 PM - Legion
What's the mystery about people having kids?
I'm still the same person with or without kids.
The question is really about how people deal with the so-called "biological imperative".
We exist in a sense to reproduce ourselves in a sort of organized attempt at immortality.

In a religious sense, it is posited as the continuance of God's will since he created us.
Either way you look at it though, it is an attempt at a legacy beyond death.

Those with children could reason that they are taking part in this process first hand but when we consider that humanity is really all connected through a common ancestor that goes back perhaps 5000 generations, then we understand that the survival of any child is the survival of us all.

Now, the nihilist might say that it is all for naught since we are only one asteroid away from complete annihilation. This is true, but at the same time we might say it is our destiny to be deconstructed into a a quadrillion particles of energy to be redefined into the heart of a star or the spiral arm of a galaxy.
March 6, 2013 2:16 PM - Deleted
whoa deep!

March 6, 2013 2:17 PM - Deleted
god i don't even LIKE kids - how did i get on the kids side?
March 6, 2013 2:20 PM - DeLepp
legion, you are watching too many lars von trier films! Though I will say the final scene in Melancholia was cool.
Edited at March 6, 2013 2:20 PM
March 6, 2013 2:21 PM - kazootite
"but babies fall in line somewhere between guinea pigs and lizards when it comes to care."

Assuming it is just as easy, would you want to be raised by a guinea pig, a lizard or a puppy?
March 6, 2013 2:22 PM - bxgrl
Randi- there are plenty of stories of dogs who mourn their masters - most famous is the dog in Japan (can't recall the name.) And I guess my point was that humans are pretty arrogant when it comes to our place on the planet. But havig studied ecology and ecosystems, I have a great respect for how important animals actually are. And the fact is, we do interact with animals. Have you ever seen therapy animals in action?

And Yes, DH- I confess to being a CCL :) but I am not sure I would call it asinine to compare raising a child and taking care of an animal. I think that's kind of a strong word to use. It's definitely different. And I don't think of my cats as my children in fur (uck!) but I do think of them as a great responsibility I took on, and like children they are infuriating, loving, rotten, perfect, messy, tiresome and tiring, pains in the ass - but they bring a lot of joy too. On the up side- I won't be paying for college or bailing them out of jail. :-D
March 6, 2013 2:23 PM - kazootite
See, Legion has a whole new way to contemplate this.
March 6, 2013 2:23 PM - bxgrl
OMG- I have to agree with Legion. Rats! ;-)
March 6, 2013 2:26 PM - kazootite
Bx, yes, different (animals).
Edited at March 6, 2013 2:26 PM
March 6, 2013 2:31 PM - Legion
Here's something that will blow your mind,
a single drop of our blood is enough to explode an entire star.

It's true,
stars burn because they take hydrogen (the simplest atom) and combine it into helium (the second simplest atom).
the energy produced by this union is immense and enough to burn a billion years.
Eventually though, the star uses up its supply of hydrogen and then it starts to build on combining helium into larger atoms.
Finally, a star reaches a point where it uses two atoms to form a heavy metal (iron).
When that instant occurs, the star's fate is sealed because it has given birth to a seed of unbelievable destruction.
The star attempts from then on to use its energy to force iron into itself and the explosive energy required to escape its own gravity becomes imbalanced.
Soon thereafter, gravity wins the fight against a star's bright light and an explosion occurs with enough force to destroy worlds and leave a black hole or a withered core of iron in its place.

Some of that left over iron is in each of our molecules of blood as hemoglobin,
perhaps a reminder of both our origins in destruction or our birth out of disorder.
March 6, 2013 2:32 PM - Legion
haha delepp,
I think the entire OT has been watching Melancholia over the past year.
I liked that last scene too.
March 6, 2013 2:32 PM - MontroseMorris
Are we discussing rats now?
Edited at March 6, 2013 2:32 PM
March 6, 2013 2:44 PM - Deleted
ugh when dave's not around to troll we go cray cray
March 6, 2013 2:53 PM - Deleted
quote:
Assuming it is just as easy, would you want to be raised by a guinea pig, a lizard or a puppy?

Lizards. They leave their kids alone lol.


March 6, 2013 3:04 PM - Partridge
Should we talk shop?

Met with Atlantic Ave LL. He is as lovely as described. He will consult with RE agent friend for advice on what to charge me rent. (Please don't do that!!!!) Easy going guy. Said friend is always on the low side.

Heard 2 scary stories from current tenant concerning my greatest hesitancy about the location -- safety.
March 6, 2013 3:08 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Ummmmm.......
http://gawker.com/5988962/cops-finds-meth-in-womans-crack-loaded-gun-in-her-vagina

March 6, 2013 3:10 PM - Partridge
pretty.
March 6, 2013 3:14 PM - Legion
That's a really nice storefront partridge.
I hope it works out this time. I had no idea it was so difficult to secure a location.
Consider the security issue at length, I would see what the place looks like at night too.
March 6, 2013 3:15 PM - Arkady
The most famous dog-mourning its owner is probably Greyfriar's Bobby.
March 6, 2013 3:17 PM - Deleted
very nice LP! what do you mean by "safety" ??
March 6, 2013 3:17 PM - Arkady
Nice shop front.
March 6, 2013 3:18 PM - Legion
LOL snappy,

..."say hello to my little friend!!"
March 6, 2013 3:21 PM - DeLepp
Great looking store front. Maybe you get can a blind made up that looks like rob's old avatar heidi to pull down while closing up.

snappy, gotta love meth addicted oklahoma girls. I'm sure some reality TV producer is flying there now.
March 6, 2013 3:24 PM - Deleted
quote:
Somehow, I didn't picture it as neat and well stocked as you have it.
I like the light it gives off.

:-/ What did you think they were going to look like?

omg guh-ROSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! poo mist fish tank!

this is animal abuse!!!!!!!!

March 6, 2013 3:29 PM - Partridge
That's some story, Snaps!

She (current tenant) uses a locked door/buzzer system. Always a problem. How do you judge people? Anyway she was robbed after letting two guys in who played her. She knew it was happening. Couldn't stop it. No violence.

Best (most expensive) zip code in Brooklyn! Near Pete, Scott and Pepper.
March 6, 2013 3:29 PM - kazootite
"my greatest hesitancy about the location -- safety."

Yep, many considerations.
March 6, 2013 3:31 PM - Arkady
How high-end is her inventory compared to yours?
March 6, 2013 3:33 PM - Legion
":-/ What did you think they were going to look like? "

I guess the fishnazi poster that kicked you off his fish blog
had me thinking that you were being abusive and waterboarding them or something.


March 6, 2013 3:36 PM - Partridge
Studio. They took cameras. As you know i have Christmas books and candles.
March 6, 2013 3:37 PM - DeLepp
yikes part, that is a concern.
March 6, 2013 3:38 PM - pepper
There have been recent broad daylight robberies in the Court/Smith vicinity as well. Is Atlantic worse? I can see how it might be, but I really don't know.
Edited at March 6, 2013 3:38 PM
March 6, 2013 3:38 PM - Legion
"She (current tenant) uses a locked door/buzzer system. Always a problem. How do you judge people?"

When I was in Florida a couple of weeks ago, I happened to go into a gun store.
It had a buzzer before going in.
I though that was kind of odd since the last place you would think a robber would be
interested in would be a gun store where there's an armory behind the counter and everyone looks like they
just came back from a weekend at survivalist camp.
March 6, 2013 3:43 PM - Partridge
That's funny, Legion.

I think video surveillance cameras is the answer at this location.
March 6, 2013 3:43 PM - kazootite
LP, is there no option to stay where you are? No negotiating?
March 6, 2013 3:46 PM - Legion
I like your tank set up *rob*.
Somehow, I didn't picture it as neat and well stocked as you have it.
I like the light it gives off.

In college, I visited an off-campus apartment which was so cooly minimal, that I remember it to this day.
The person had a simple bed on the floor with a lamp
and a huge fish tank in the middle of the room with one of those Arawana fish in it. You know, they have a silver body and a sharp nose like a prehistoric fish. The light from the fish tank was so soothing, it was like being in a prayer chamber of some sort.

...not even gravel in the tank.
March 6, 2013 3:48 PM - Deleted
i don't think your inventory is easily fenceable, LP. cameras are.
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March 6, 2013 3:50 PM - Deleted
although it is brooklyn, wouldn't be surprised if there's a black market for home design stuff! sounds like a portlandia skit
March 6, 2013 3:52 PM - Deleted
and of course doesn't stop dumb criminials from stealing first and figuring out that later
March 6, 2013 3:52 PM - Partridge
Don't worry for me. Kazoo! I don't want to come off that it is bad there. It just feels more urban anonymous. It is only marginally different from where I am now.

No, tried and not happening. New space has 2 advantages. It is cheaper and has potential for better sales. It is only cheaper because LL is a great guy. Others asking double and triple for similar stores. The nabe is hot! Ask DH. He says it's BALLER!
March 6, 2013 3:52 PM - DeadCatBounce
dh, how is it that you are so well informed regarding fencing stolen goods?
Edited at March 6, 2013 3:52 PM
March 6, 2013 3:54 PM - Partridge
Exactly! I see them looking in and scoping it out. They don't want my decorative pillows.
March 6, 2013 3:56 PM - Partridge
"dh, how is it that you are so well informed regarding fencing stolen goods?"

Thought you were a real NYer, DCB. We all know what they want.
March 6, 2013 3:57 PM - Arkady
A friend of a friend of mine in DC installed a panic button in her shop. When she presses it an audio file of a snarling dog goes off.
March 6, 2013 3:59 PM - DeadCatBounce
Born and raised Part. Scars to prove it, too.
Edited at March 6, 2013 3:59 PM
March 6, 2013 4:00 PM - dibs
"The most famous dog-mourning its owner is probably Greyfriar's Bobby."

No, Arkady, it's Hachiko. A movie was made about him in Japan and here, starring Richard Gere. There's a statue of him at Shibuya Station and it's referred to as a popularmeeting place outside the many exits to the station. Hachiko is stuffed and at the NAtional Science Museum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hachik?
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March 6, 2013 4:02 PM - Partridge
"A friend of a friend of mine in DC installed a panic button in her shop. When she presses it an audio file of a snarling dog goes off.

I'm thinking real Doberman.
March 6, 2013 4:04 PM - Arkady
The 1961 Walt Disney film Greyfriars Bobby: The True Story of a Dog was based on a book by E. Atkinson.
Edited at March 6, 2013 4:04 PM
March 6, 2013 4:05 PM - Arkady
Another film was released in the UK in February 2006 starring Oliver Golding and Christopher Lee - Greyfriars Bobby)
March 6, 2013 4:07 PM - Legion
How about Balto the wonder dog who delivered diptheria anti-toxin to Nome Alaska in -70 degree weather and saved a lot of children?
His statue's in Central Park.
Edited at March 6, 2013 4:07 PM
March 6, 2013 4:08 PM - Legion
...he wasn't morning his owner though so he would be out of this category.
The statue's nice though!
March 6, 2013 4:08 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"Partridge should have one of those trap door buttons installed so that any unwanted customers can be quickly dispatched with the touch of a button.
They could fall into a slide leading to a large sewer outlet and end up in that large tunnel beneath Atlantic Avenue."

Whereupon they could be delivered to the docks and conscripted into servitude aboard the ships. The original meaning of Shanghaiing!
March 6, 2013 4:09 PM - Legion
Partridge should have one of those trap doors installed so that any unwanted customers can be quickly dispatched with the touch of a button.
They could fall into a slide leading to a large sewer outlet and end up in that large tunnel beneath Atlantic Avenue.
March 6, 2013 4:09 PM - Partridge
But did Balto truly love them?
March 6, 2013 4:10 PM - dibs
More Japanese pass by that station every day than probably British sods go in that pub in a year!!!!!
Edited at March 6, 2013 4:10 PM
March 6, 2013 4:11 PM - Legion
haha six years.

I suppose it could be worse,
they could end up swimming in the Gowanus Canal.
Edited at March 6, 2013 4:11 PM
March 6, 2013 4:12 PM - Partridge
to the sewer, buddy!
March 6, 2013 4:13 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Legion, I'm sure we could create a long underground slide from that Atlantic Tunnel to the Gowanus.
March 6, 2013 4:14 PM - Partridge
Splash!
March 6, 2013 4:15 PM - Arkady
Hachiko only sat shiva for 10 years & in the 20th Century. Bobby sat for 14 in the 19th.
March 6, 2013 4:16 PM - Legion
"What's that? You say you want a full refund on your purchase from 3 months ago!
Well it's off to the sewer for you then!"

"buuh bye"
March 6, 2013 4:18 PM - Deleted
balto was an opportunistic scumbag ;)
March 6, 2013 4:18 PM - Legion
LOL
sixyears and partridge

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March 6, 2013 4:19 PM - dibs
It doesn't matter....there are far more hot Japanese guys than Brits!!!!

[too early to post NSFW bare chested Japanese guy]
Edited at March 6, 2013 4:19 PM
March 6, 2013 4:24 PM - Partridge
Legion, isn't the PLUSA office in/near the Atlantic tunnel? Where Cobble works? With the painting on velvet?
March 6, 2013 4:28 PM - MontroseMorris
Please take a look at my Building of the Day, and tell me the architect doesn't look like someone we know.

http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2013/03/building-of-the-day-77-livingston-street/
March 6, 2013 4:29 PM - Legion
Yes, the official PLUSA office is right near the Atlantic Avenue Tunnel.
I was never given a key so I always had to sneak in through the secret door behind the
velvet painting of Dogs Playing Poker.

...ever since Cobble took her vacation from the OT a couple of months ago though
it seems she subletted it to a few South American guys running an illegal botox/dental clinic.

Edited at March 6, 2013 4:29 PM
March 6, 2013 4:32 PM - pepper
I called in sick today because I woke up feeling like crap. Ended up missing Bonus Day. :0( Talk about poor timing. Especially since I only end up calling in sick maybe once or twice a year.
March 6, 2013 4:32 PM - DeadCatBounce
I thought Cobble got promoted at work, became a Republican, and doesn't have time for the OT Riff Raff anymore.
March 6, 2013 4:33 PM - pepper
Haha MM. Looks like Dave to me, and I've never even met him...
March 6, 2013 4:34 PM - Deleted
MM:


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Edited at March 6, 2013 4:34 PM
March 6, 2013 4:35 PM - pepper
lol dh. How'd you get it to run on like that?
March 6, 2013 4:35 PM - Deleted
i dunno - weird. figured it would go down. TWSS
March 6, 2013 4:36 PM - pepper
hahahaha
March 6, 2013 4:38 PM - DeLepp
well dave does have a eye for yellow.
March 6, 2013 4:41 PM - dibs
Pepper...it's Benson.



Edited at March 6, 2013 4:41 PM
March 6, 2013 4:42 PM - pepper
Then you and Benson look like brothers....
March 6, 2013 4:43 PM - Legion
"I thought Cobble got promoted at work, became a Republican, and doesn't have time for the OT Riff Raff anymore."

Yes, I thought so to, but it appears that she was actually hired by a Republican think tank, became Libertarian and now spends most of her time doing missionary work in Jamaica.
Edited at March 6, 2013 4:43 PM
March 6, 2013 4:43 PM - Deleted
LOL - anyone else remember when the bartender at that weird pool hall thought Benson was Puerto Rican?
March 6, 2013 4:45 PM - petebklyn
pepper and i don't share zip code with scott. unfortunately we share it with cgar
March 6, 2013 4:47 PM - Legion
LOL,
benson does not look Puerto Rican,
but he has been known to wear a guayabera shirt and sing Guantanamera
after a few shots.
Edited at March 6, 2013 4:47 PM
March 6, 2013 4:47 PM - Deleted
riff raff
March 6, 2013 4:48 PM - pepper
And Dumbo, pete. I admit, I was surprised when I moved the 4 blocks from Hoyt and Bergen and my zipcode changed... Guess that's why I thought for a while that I had moved to Cobble Hill - until I was corrected.
March 6, 2013 4:49 PM - Partridge
No, not Dave. Looks like DCB to me.
March 6, 2013 4:51 PM - dibs
Looks like benson.

Benson doesn't look like any of the Puerto Ricans I've slept with.

I remmebr cmu told us a bunch of Texans thought he was Italian...he's Indian.
March 6, 2013 4:52 PM - Deleted
oh yeah remember when CMU would chill? i think jackal chased him away
March 6, 2013 4:52 PM - Legion
DCB looks like a young Deforest Kelly from Star Trek:
March 6, 2013 4:53 PM - DeLepp
I guess I mistook a bump on the head for a shadow.
March 6, 2013 4:55 PM - sixyearsandcounting
ROFL MM.

DH, I remember that! Oceans, what a strange but interesting place.

Re lech and cmu - the rest of us would just get out the popcorn...
March 6, 2013 4:57 PM - sixyearsandcounting
If anyone wants to read a parody of academia:
http://www.karlremarks.com/2013/03/the-empire-of-cheese-interview-with.html

The prof is at Columbia and the parody is of this interview:
http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/10461/the-empire-of-sexuality_an-interview-with-joseph-m
Edited at March 6, 2013 4:57 PM
March 6, 2013 4:58 PM - Legion
CMU was offended by lechacal's carbon sequestration proposals and was never heard from again.
March 6, 2013 5:00 PM - Deleted
speaking of columbia - anyone hear about the nutella theft going on?

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/2013/03/05/nutella-ferris-booth-costs-dining-5000-week-part-due-dining-hall-thievery
March 6, 2013 5:02 PM - bxgrl
MM- ROTFLMAO!! Added my own little story btw about that building.
March 6, 2013 5:07 PM - Legion
hahaha sixyears,
I read the deconstructionist cheese interview. Very funny!
Edited at March 6, 2013 5:07 PM
March 6, 2013 5:14 PM - Arkady
6 - That piece is very Derridative
March 6, 2013 5:22 PM - Deleted
The principals of my company explained why we don't do business with a certain developer who has huge ego and is somewhat well-known. It seems that he lures small firms into doing business with him, dangling the potential to go big-time in front of their face. When the job is done, he then informs them that he will not be paying them in full. He points to a stack of paper in front of him and tells them: "If you want to sue me, your case will go to the bottom of this pile".
March 6, 2013 5:23 PM - Arkady
That sounds awfully trumped up.
March 6, 2013 5:23 PM - Deleted
In good news however, we inked a deal to be part of the construction of 432 Park Ave, which will be the tallest residential tower in the world.
March 6, 2013 5:24 PM - Legion
Nutella is a hazelnut/chocolate spread which is both tasty and satisfyingly filling.
Being that it's a college campus where all this Nutella is going missing,
has there been any follow-up by the administration on the correlation between smoking a spliff on the quad and
the proximity to Nutella munchies in the dining hall?
March 6, 2013 5:26 PM - dibs
Benson...use the Post headline when he got divorced...

"Ivana Better Deal"
March 6, 2013 5:30 PM - rf
Trying to catch up. Rob, you used the CF word on Saturday 3/2--just a few days ago.
March 6, 2013 5:31 PM - Arkady
Legion - there you go again; putting things in categories!!
March 6, 2013 5:32 PM - dibs
I don't like Nutella.
Edited at March 6, 2013 5:32 PM
March 6, 2013 5:33 PM - Arkady
I don't either.
March 6, 2013 5:35 PM - Legion
haha arkady,
I'm in too much of a "westernized" mindset.
I hear that in the Levant, Nutella is neither a food nor a perishible product.
It is rather, like sunlight, an idea couched in the concept of comfort and fulfillment.
Edited at March 6, 2013 5:35 PM
March 6, 2013 5:35 PM - sixyearsandcounting
What Arkady really wanted to say @5:31:
"Mind you, I am not arguing that these sexual identities always fail to institute themselves inside or outside the West and that this failure is total, rather that they succeed and fail differentially across classes and countries depending on the effect of capitalist structures, and their production of certain lifestyles, forms, and modes of intimate life on different classes, which are in turn the outcome of uneven capitalist development. While imperial capital is often productive of new identities, including sexual identities commensurate with its dissemination of the heterosexual bourgeois nuclear family form globally, whatever new sexual identities it creates and generates in the periphery are not always or often mappable onto the homo-hetero binary. That Gay Internationalists seek to assimilate these identities by forcing them into the frame of the homo-hetero binary is itself a culturally imperialist symptom of imperial capital’s penetration of these countries, and not the outcome or effect of such penetration, since in most cases it was unable to reproduce or impose normative European sexual identities on the majority of the population. Here, we must bear in mind that, as Edward Said reminds us, “imperialism is the export of identity.” It operates in the register of producing non-Europe as other, and sometimes as almost the same as (or potentially the same as) Europe."
March 6, 2013 5:36 PM - dibs
On this day in 1912, Oreo sandwich cookies were first introduced by the National Biscuit Co., which later became Nabisco.
March 6, 2013 5:41 PM - Legion
...the professor forgot the (nh) after the word "penetration".

March 6, 2013 5:49 PM - bxgrl
OMG- Six just channeled Legion
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March 6, 2013 5:54 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: dave, i tried to find a picture of an "oreo sandwich" for you but they are WAY WAY WAY nsfw!
March 6, 2013 5:57 PM - dibs
randi, I've never done it with two other black gys, that I can remember, but certainly with two or more Thai guys, usually I like the darker ones there too so, similar.

If you google "Tawan Bar go go boys" that's my regular hangout in Bangkok
March 6, 2013 6:02 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: I've never done it

LOL i love that we are having this discussion on a3rd grade level.
March 6, 2013 6:06 PM - Arkady
6 - I could've said it [much] better myself. I once did a send-up of the MLA - almost as good! Except it's an auto-send-up of itself.
Edited at March 6, 2013 6:06 PM
March 6, 2013 6:11 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: just saw a kid in a bmw pulled over for driving the wrong way up carlton btwn myrtle and willoughby?! moron!
Edited at March 6, 2013 6:11 PM
March 6, 2013 6:11 PM - Arkady
No one knows why they were called Oreos.
March 6, 2013 6:15 PM - dibs
Kids shouldn't have BMWs. I bought mine used in 1985. I was 30. It was one of the older 2002s
Edited at March 6, 2013 6:18 PM
March 6, 2013 6:17 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: no shit dibs, it was a fucking 700 series, with like 50k rims to boot!
March 6, 2013 6:18 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: i love the 2002s. those back windows are beautiful
Edited at March 6, 2013 6:17 PM
March 6, 2013 6:19 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: the datsun 510 is pretty great looking too.
Edited at March 6, 2013 6:19 PM
March 6, 2013 6:20 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: dream car- Spyker C8 Double 12
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March 6, 2013 6:22 PM - Deleted
It's brick out there
March 6, 2013 6:22 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"auto-send-up of itself"

Excellent description of academia. The amazing thing is that most (not all) academics know it, but the system is what it is and won't change anytime soon.
March 6, 2013 6:23 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: wow
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March 6, 2013 6:24 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Interesting site: http://www.microaggressions.com/
March 6, 2013 6:24 PM - dibs
I loved them too. When I was in Hong Kong in 1991 I bought a 3.0 cs...same color as this one. I loved that car.


Edited at March 6, 2013 6:24 PM
March 6, 2013 6:25 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: are they good cars dave?
Edited at March 6, 2013 6:25 PM
March 6, 2013 6:26 PM - Deleted
Skyper sorta looks like those lotus elises u can get here
Edited at March 6, 2013 6:26 PM
March 6, 2013 6:27 PM - Deleted
Well maybe not.
March 6, 2013 6:27 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: yeah dh. i've never seen a spyker in real life, not sure they really exist outside of autoshows. although leno probably has one.
Edited at March 6, 2013 6:27 PM
March 6, 2013 6:28 PM - Slopefarm
Hey all,

I only have a minute. Just wanted to point out that dave's doppelganger architect is most likely JEWish.
March 6, 2013 6:28 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: lotus elise is so tiny when you see one up close. like a go cart on steroids.
March 6, 2013 6:29 PM - petebklyn
my first car(used) - I was 40 years old.
March 6, 2013 6:29 PM - Deleted
Interesting randi. Where are they made? Looks vaguely British to me for some reason
Edited at March 6, 2013 6:29 PM
March 6, 2013 6:30 PM - Deleted
Yeah - the Elise is scary small. Fast but only cuz they are so light - only has like a 200 hp Toyota engine I think. I could never fit In one. I can't really fit in those BMW roadsters so I assume Elise is smaller
March 6, 2013 6:31 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: i think they are british. their appeal it their handling- super low to the ground with relatively wide wheelbase so you can take corners at like 100mph and shit. they aren't super $$$$, i think less than 100k.
March 6, 2013 6:32 PM - Deleted
Oh wow skyper is Dutch? Weird
March 6, 2013 6:33 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: edit: spyker is dutch, with an audi engine. sweet logo. "Nulla tenaci invia est via", which is Latin for "For the tenacious, no road is impassable"
March 6, 2013 6:33 PM - Deleted
Interesting - yeah sub 100k isn't bad for what seems to be a rare almost super car.
March 6, 2013 6:34 PM - Deleted
My old job the "company car" was an Benz s55 I rode in a few times. That thing would haul ass for such a huge car
March 6, 2013 6:35 PM - Deleted
There's a skyper dealer in manhattan - blunt ride?
March 6, 2013 6:41 PM - Deleted
I'd settle for this

http://www.spykercars.com/models/C8-Aileron



Roll to Fairway like a boss
Edited at March 6, 2013 6:41 PM
March 6, 2013 6:52 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Is it a nude beach if everyone's blindfolded?
Edited at March 6, 2013 6:51 PM
March 6, 2013 6:53 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: yes six, it is!
March 6, 2013 6:57 PM - Arkady
And the tree has made a noise even if no one heard it!!
March 6, 2013 6:58 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: modern thought experiment
March 6, 2013 7:06 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: haha i had my shit wrong- lotus is around 100k, spyker is like 400k. dave, can you lend me and DH some nice clothes and your amex black card to go test drive some supercars? i promise to not get too high first!
March 6, 2013 7:29 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: guess i killed the thread with this. later losers.
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March 6, 2013 8:02 PM - Deleted
Yay! Going to the Wheel of Fortune taping with my friend Kristy who I havent hung out with in a long time, like at least a year. The tickets are scheduled to be fed ex'd to me on Friday. Question: I havent seen that show since like, well, I don't know forever. Was shocked it's still on the air. Is it the same host and will Vanna be there? I am going to bring my NES and Sega Genesis Wheel of Fortune cartridges to see if I can get Vanna to sign them. Do they give out prizes and gifts to audience members like they do with other gameshows and the Oprah show?

For the last week I have been beating myself up mentally for all the amount of money I've put into my fish tanks, but tonight I have an epiphany. I <3 it and it relaxes me, and it gives me something to have to care for. Bronxgrl sorta touched on the topic earlier today, but sometimes people have to create their own families even if it means they are not human. I like my fish, they like me. They provide me relaxation and responsibility; I provide them food and a freakshow.

Just took out the dog, he rocks. He's getting so much better. Perhaps one day I will get a dog again. (I kinda want a really small one this time). My vibes are totally open for "that" dog to come to me if need be. If anyone knows of any dogs up for adoption and you might think it's a good match, feel free to inform me about it. Getting a new dog is not going to be a conscious decision for me, it's going to be the Universe matching us up. I'm not going to actively go around looking for a new dog, but my walls are down and if one comes to me I am so open for it. I'd imagine most people would know that I would take damn good care of it.




March 6, 2013 8:14 PM - kazootite
Oy! [edited]
March 6, 2013 8:14 PM - Deleted
FYI: Pinky (formerly known as Punky... the one I brought home from work fish..) has a new name. I like my fish have celebrity names. She's Tawny Kitaen.

Tawny Kitaen, Heidi Fleiss, Jamie Lee "RuPaul" Curtis, and Dudley (from Diff'rent Strokes).



Edited at March 6, 2013 8:14 PM
March 6, 2013 8:29 PM - Deleted
Roommate dog likes to bite my feet and ankles in the morning when I wake up if my roommate is still in the living room. He wags his tail the whole time, so it's not really aggressive. Perhaps my feet smell bad in the morning lol. I like the dog, he is very sweet and adorable. I am trying to be less of an ice princess these days, which is bizarre cuz ice princesses usually have higher standards about everything in life than I do.

My sister and her bofo are going to South Carolina in 3 weeks for a few days. I made this happen. I am proud of myself. I am terrified though. I have also been getting my grandmother in contact with many extended family members via faceboook and stuff. The only problem is scares me like nothing else in the world scares me. Obviously something I need to get over. Im excited for both of them, they haven't seen each other in 21 years(?) My sister looks exactly like our mother, which might scare the shit out of my grandmother when they meet.

I told my grandmother tho that she has a much much MUCH better head on her shouldars and that she wants to make this vacation to meet up and to try and make sure that the drama-rama level is turned down to the lowest notch. Our grandmother is INSANE about the drama. I don't want it to ruin my sister's trip. I dont know WHY they are choosing to stay at her apartment, but I am sure it is financial.

I can't wait to get down there in the late spring/early summer.
Edited at March 6, 2013 8:29 PM
March 6, 2013 8:31 PM - Deleted
testing. it said I was not "allowed to post commentary in this forum" or something.


March 6, 2013 8:33 PM - Deleted
quote:
If I was a contestant on Wheel of Fortune

Audience taping, not contestant. I mean really, how on earth could I be a possible contestant on such a thing!? :-/

I still do believe tho that I have it in me to be on Big Brother some summer in the future... I'll be kicked out first, but who cares.

March 6, 2013 8:33 PM - Deleted
quote:
If I was a contestant on Wheel of Fortune

Audience taping, not contestant. I mean really, how on earth could I be a possible contestant on such a thing!? :-/

I still do believe tho that I have it in me to be on Big Brother some summer in the future... I'll be kicked out first, but who cares.

March 6, 2013 8:34 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Just read Bxgrl's comment on the BOTD thread. Wow! Would love to hear more of that story...
March 6, 2013 8:44 PM - Legion
Sounds like it will be a growth experience for both your sister and grandmother.
It is interesting how family can look exactly like members of another generation.
Back in the old days, the "royalty" in Europe counted on passing along their features
to their offspring.
There's a lot more admixture today so that's not always the case anymore.
March 6, 2013 8:46 PM - Legion
If I was a contestant on Wheel of Fortune,
I would have no qualms about taking every letter I could for points.
I wouldn't try to solve it quickly after like one vowel for a couple of hundred dollars.
I'd keep "guessing" the letters and keep racking up the dough even if Pat Sajak gave me the stink eye.
_ _ _ _ - _ _ _!
March 6, 2013 8:47 PM - Legion
...just walked legiondog,
he was not liking the wind out there.
Now that he's advanced in age he doesn't like the bad weather too much and gets pissed off
if I keep him out too much or take him out too late.
He's not afraid of cursing me out either.
March 6, 2013 8:48 PM - Legion
what was the comment sixyears?
Edited at March 6, 2013 8:48 PM
March 6, 2013 8:51 PM - Deleted
It had snipers in it
March 6, 2013 8:53 PM - petebklyn
regarding that (yellowish)apt bldg on schermerhorn off court behind municipal bldg:
"I lived on Schmerhorn and looked at this building nearly everyday for over 20 years. The first few weeks I lived on Schermerhorn, a sniper got on their roof and was shooting over at us. I have no fond memories of that place.
March 6, 2013 8:54 PM - gazoo
Rob, I was an an audience member on Wheel Of Fortune about a million years ago, the season before Vanna became a regular. It just so happens that the episode I saw, she was substituting for the regular woman (don't know her name). I remember one of the puzzles was Pirates of Penzance. During the breaks Vanna came out into the audience. She was wearing a mink stole kind of thing (back in the day when PETA wouldn't protest such things) and my friend asked her if she got all sweaty on the stage. Vanna gave her the squinchy eyes, and said very detainfully, 'A pig sweats, a lady glows..." to which my friend replied 'in that case, you're sweating like a pig". Vanna wasn't happy. We almost got kicked out because the same friend was obnoxious and cat-calling Pat Sajak, hahahaha. You'll have a lot of fun!

Partridge, what kind of shop do you have? It was mentioned that it was Christmasy stuff, but I always envisioned more linens and pretty things that one uses for 'company'.
Edited at March 6, 2013 8:54 PM
March 6, 2013 8:58 PM - petebklyn
evening gazoo. she claims to sell candles, jewelry , decorative items but it has been reported she just pours booze for everyone.
March 6, 2013 8:58 PM - Deleted
Lmao at bitchy VW
Edited at March 6, 2013 8:58 PM
March 6, 2013 9:01 PM - Deleted
quote:
Vanna gave her the squinchy eyes, and said very detainfully, 'A pig sweats, a lady glows..." to which my friend replied 'in that case, you're sweating like a pig". Vanna wasn't happy. We almost got kicked out because the same friend was obnoxious and cat-calling Pat Sajak, hahahaha. You'll have a lot of fun!

HA!


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March 6, 2013 9:02 PM - Deleted
I, Antonin Benson Pontifcus Maximus, have the hots for Vanna White.
March 6, 2013 9:04 PM - Deleted
I have been calling Jamie Lee "RuPaul" Curtis, Stinky lately. He seems to respond more when I call him Stinky. I know that lots of people over the years change their pets' names and call them new pet names, but I wonder if Stinky is mean to call him (he doesnt smell), but it just naturally flows out of my mouth when I talk to him and he responds more than when I call him Jamie Lee. What a dumb name to even begin with!

March 6, 2013 9:04 PM - Deleted
She sounds like a disingenuous broad to me
March 6, 2013 9:06 PM - Deleted
Dinky - Stinky - Pinky all in a row, makes it much easier.




March 6, 2013 9:21 PM - pepper
Sounds like PacMan, rob.

Inky, Blinky, Pinky and Clyde.
Edited at March 6, 2013 9:21 PM
March 6, 2013 9:30 PM - dibs
Dinner finished. Snowing up here...maybe 3" on the ground. Very pretty
March 6, 2013 9:31 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Rand Paul is kicking some ass re drone strikes.
March 6, 2013 9:31 PM - dibs
Was one of them gay like the Teletubbies, pepper????
March 6, 2013 9:32 PM - dibs
Drone strikes are fine. I think the current controversy is about whether they would be used on americannsoil, which they are not and its a moot point
Edited at March 6, 2013 9:32 PM
March 6, 2013 9:34 PM - Deleted
Cool.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219584/Ghosts-war-Artist-superimposes-World-War-II-photographs-modern-pictures-street-scenes.html
March 6, 2013 9:39 PM - pepper
Don't know, dibs. But apparently, at some point, Clyde was changed to Sue to make the game more appealing for females.
March 6, 2013 9:40 PM - sixyearsandcounting
So why won't the administration just say, we will not use drone strikes under any circumstances? If you asked anyone 15 years ago, should the government be allowed to do x, y, and z which have now become perfectly normal infringements of civil liberties, people would have said you were crazy. And the other question is due process - if the gov't claims it needs to kill an American citizen, anywhere in the world, there should be some due process and checks and balances.
March 6, 2013 9:40 PM - Legion
Is Rand Paul still doing his filibuster?
I remember learning about that move as a kid in school and I didn't understand how it worked.
Good thing we still have responsible Republicans to keep the Senate honest.
March 6, 2013 9:41 PM - Deleted
Just got off the phone with my insane grandmother. I know I've trash-talked her in the past, but she makes me crack the fuck up. She went thrifting with her neighbors at the thrifts and is sending me a care package full of "beach clothes". I can only imagine lol


March 6, 2013 9:41 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Yes, legion, he's said he will talk as long as he can.
March 6, 2013 9:43 PM - Deleted
Tho I must say, she does send me "work clothes" and "fun clothes" and she has been on the mark at least 75% of the time with what she buys and sends.. There's the occassional WTF article of clothing, but for the most part she sends me great shit!


March 6, 2013 9:45 PM - pepper
An Alitalia pilot reported a drone sighting over Brooklyn yesterday. Or the day before...
March 6, 2013 9:47 PM - Legion
I like those photos dh.

What's with Attorney General Holder,
is he saying it's ok to send out a small drone on American soil at any given time?
Wouldn't that violate the Posse Comitatus understanding on States Rights?
The administration probably sees this a s loophole since they are unmanned drones.
March 6, 2013 9:48 PM - Partridge
"what kind of shop do you have?"
Pete's right, it's a front for illegal alcohol sales.

"It was mentioned that it was Christmasy stuff,"
That's not truthful either. The statement was a nod to Arkady whose instructional Christmas book I briskly sold this past season.

In retail speak, it is a Lifestyle Boutique. Which is roughly defined as a carefully curated selection of goods that expresses a particular style or perspective about life. It's products define who one is, or who they would like to be. So in detail, I carry linens, decorative accessories, jewelry, rugs, home fragrances, personal care items, books, lighting and furnishings. They all have a connecting thread though. For instance, the women who would wear this necklace would also want that lamp in her bedroom. As the sole buyer for the store, I set the tone or tell the story or dictate what is good and how one should live.

Long story short -- nice gift store.



March 6, 2013 9:50 PM - pepper
Those pictures were cool, dh. Would be super interesting to see more - there were relatively few.
March 6, 2013 9:52 PM - pepper
Yes, Partridge carries some neat stuff. Eclectic, but it somehow all makes sense together.
March 6, 2013 9:54 PM - kazootite
"Dinky - Stinky - Pinky all in a row, makes it much easier."

That will make it easier for us also.
March 6, 2013 9:55 PM - dibs
Sorry six, I disagree. if an American has decided to join a taliban group then he should be eliminated juat like the rest of the group once that group proves to be a threat to America.

He's with them of his own fee will. He knows they are terrorists.

Its probably the only Obama policy where people still have to take responsibility for their actions
Edited at March 6, 2013 9:55 PM
March 6, 2013 10:01 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Sure, he should be eliminated, but not without due process and checks and balances. Otherwise any President can designate anyone as a member of a terrorist organization.
March 6, 2013 10:02 PM - Partridge
Pepper bomb!
March 6, 2013 10:03 PM - pepper
I wanted a change, but I think I like the other one better...
March 6, 2013 10:04 PM - dibs
They are in a terrorist camp in a foreign country. As far as im concernd they are no longer americans. Fuck them. Let them rot in hell.

The leap to what you are suggesting isnt going to happen. The precedent for using drones to seek out terrorist camps has been set. Doesnt matter who is in them unless they have captives. Like i said, let them rot in hell
March 6, 2013 10:05 PM - Legion
I'm hearing a lot of wind out there and it's getting cold.
Time to get into a snuggy and get crazy.
Edited at March 6, 2013 10:05 PM
March 6, 2013 10:05 PM - dibs
They all look alike, pepper.
Edited at March 6, 2013 10:05 PM
March 6, 2013 10:06 PM - pepper
Not this one...
March 6, 2013 10:09 PM - dibs
NSFS

Not Safe For Salads
Edited at March 6, 2013 10:09 PM
March 6, 2013 10:10 PM - pepper
Lol, dibs.

Not safe for your tossed salads, anyway...
March 6, 2013 10:11 PM - Partridge
Better for stuffing, perhaps?
March 6, 2013 10:11 PM - Arkady
Pepperporn vs. peppercorn:
March 6, 2013 10:12 PM - sixyearsandcounting
So tell me:

Should the President be able to unilaterally declare an American citizen a terrorist and have them killed on American soil without due process?

If yes, what is to prevent the President from unilaterally killing anyone?
March 6, 2013 10:14 PM - dibs
Not on american soil. Thats the issue they are debating.

On foreign soil, in a terrorist camp, yes.

I stated above that it wasnt acceptable on american soil. It never will be. To think otherwise is pushing the argument just for the sake of pushing the argument.
Edited at March 6, 2013 10:16 PM
March 6, 2013 10:17 PM - Arkady
If a terrorist attack on domestic soil were in the works, I don't think it's necessary to take the time for due process. "We" might not know there were US citizens involved. Or the terrorists might always make a point of having a US citizen among them.
I don't think a wholesale statement that it could never happen is advisable. Look at all the backlash from the Branch Dravidian action - a.k.a. whack-os in Waco. Gov't took a lot of gaffe which is what would happen if they acted precipitously.
March 6, 2013 10:17 PM - dibs
But on american soil i also believe you should be able to shoot anyone entering your home without your permission. In many states you can.
March 6, 2013 10:19 PM - dibs
Akady is right. If the police, etc uncovered a terrorist organization and raided them a lot of them are likely to be killed, justifiably and without checking any passports first.

Like i said, fuck em
Edited at March 6, 2013 10:19 PM
March 6, 2013 10:23 PM - dibs
When they send a drone after a terrorist, they are sending it after a known terrorist, it doesnt matter if hes american or not.

Non americans have the same right to due process here on our soil...to a point. Terrorism is different. I believe in racial profiling in the case of terrorist issues. I also believe that when the evidence is strong enough, they can be detained without thorough due process.

Sorry folks but its a different sort of crime, a different sort of war than what weve seen in the past

And Pakisatn is not our friend. bush was right about it
March 6, 2013 10:25 PM - dibs
We shpuld have just annihilated Afghanistan and left after 9-11. Its not a situation where we can be at all effective on the ground. They should have learned that in vietnam.

Pussyfooting around with these countries shows weakness. Obama has shown weakness
March 6, 2013 10:27 PM - Arkady
If Bush had gone after the actual perps instead of chimeras we'd be in a better position all round.
March 6, 2013 10:27 PM - More4Less
I've been catching up on my "24" episodes and they sure back "do what's necessary to stop the terrorist plots", "it's a war and some civil liberties will be impacted", and "the end justifies the means"
March 6, 2013 10:29 PM - dibs
OK, bedtime for me. Glad to know there are drones out there keeping us safe while i sleep
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March 6, 2013 10:35 PM - Legion
To be fair,
Bush went into Afghanistan first and took out the al queda base of operations there.
Let's not rewrite history in our haste to continue blaming Bush.

I think the issue at hand with the drones on American soil is actually this President's willingness to stretch the Constitutional issues to the breaking point as if we don't have over 200 years of precedent to learn from.
March 6, 2013 10:40 PM - petebklyn
eh-- be realistic......killing a citizen or non-citizen not done lightly on this soil or no - but has always been going on -- just covertly. Isn't that what happens in all those hollywood spy CIA-ish movies?
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March 6, 2013 10:43 PM - petebklyn
and the supposed drone sighting in brooklyn - some say was probably someone's remote operated model airplane

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March 6, 2013 10:43 PM - Legion
and just to keep it on topic:
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March 6, 2013 10:46 PM - petebklyn
there really isn't (widespread) criticism of bush going after al queda in afghanistan. not everything he did was horrible. I mean -- look - he did expand medicare. remember?
March 6, 2013 10:46 PM - petebklyn
nothing more nauseating than a stuffed cat
March 6, 2013 10:47 PM - dibs
Yes, bring back more covert CIA operations. We need to show the world that we are still in charge.
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March 6, 2013 10:48 PM - Legion
The remote operated plane theory would make sense pete.
There's a big remote plane community that gathers at Floyd Bennett Field which is just across Jamaica Bay from JFK airport.
These guys are serious model airplane enthusiasts with 6 foot model planes that look and sound just like the real thing. There's even a miniature airport with control tower out there.

March 6, 2013 10:49 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"al queda" - osama's not latino, ok?

Afghanistan was already annihilated after 20+ years of war. Not much more to do except move rubble from one pile to the other. The problem was mission creep and the leadership taking its eye off the ball to move to Iraq. Also the colossal failure to use American soldiers to get Osama at Tora Bora.
March 6, 2013 10:50 PM - petebklyn
if really covert you don't know whether it is still going on or not.
March 6, 2013 10:53 PM - petebklyn
so how is it pronounced....hear couple of versions on TV -- qaeda rhymes with guy -da or gay-da?
March 6, 2013 10:58 PM - Legion
"al queda" - osama's not latino, ok?"

Spanish is my first language sixyears,
I'm shocked that you would use this opportunity to poke fun at an
English as a second language learner. :o(
March 6, 2013 11:07 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Lol legion, plenty of native speakers make the same mistake...in their case it must be that their subconscious prejudice against Latinos manifests itself in a Hispanicized misspelling of a terrorist organization :)

The proper pronunciation is difficult because the first two letters in Arabic (transliterated as Q and ae) have no English equivalent. It sounds something like Ka'ida (where the first a is long as in far), and the apostrophe represents a glottal stop (though almost inaudible in Arabic). Guyda is close enough but the G is wrong as the "Q" is closer to our K, so Kuyda is ok. Kayda and Gayda are definitely wrong.
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March 6, 2013 11:11 PM - petebklyn
thanks for the pronunciation lesson.
March 6, 2013 11:12 PM - petebklyn
okay folks. thursday is approaching. g'night

March 6, 2013 11:14 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"Think of what our nation stands for - democracy and proper drains."

- John Betjeman, English poet, 1940
March 6, 2013 11:16 PM - bxgrl
I'm with arkady (and, omg, dave). There may be a critical time when using a drone on American soil is the only choice. Someone on HP laid out a scenario of terrorists coming together here to pt together a nuclear weapon. The government is tracking them, knows where they are and what they are doing. Cars can't get there in time. What do you do? I also note Holder did not say they were looking to use a drone on American soil. He said that it was possible some scenario could make it the only option. No one wants to think about that possibility but then again, we are talking terrorism. We can't fight terrorists the way we fought the Germans in WW II. We want to be safe and protected, and we won't forgive a government that doesn't protect us. But I think too many of us don't think to ask at what price? And that's a really hard question because it means our government will need to do things we never thought we would be capable of doing. Or wanting to do.
March 6, 2013 11:17 PM - Legion
"The proper pronunciation is difficult because the first two letters in Arabic (transliterated as Q and ae) have no English equivalent. It sounds something like Ka'ida (where the first a is long as in far), and the apostrophe represents a glottal stop (though almost inaudible in Arabic). Guyda is close enough but the G is wrong as the "Q" is closer to our K, so Kuyda is ok. Kayda and Gayda are definitely wrong"

...in other words pete,
it sounds exactly as I wrote it in Spanish
before sixyears started making fun of me. :o(

It's just another example of the attempted imperialistic hegemony of language by the use of English spelling standards. Something which I seek to subvert by a more pluralistic and liberal use of phonetics based spelling.
March 6, 2013 11:29 PM - Legion
...err remind us again bxgrl,
were you for or against the "waterboarding" of enemy combatants because you seem to be using the same arguments to back the idea of drone strikes on American soil. [running to hide under my snuggie]

Ok, gotta go.
Yo al-quedo Taco Bell.
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March 6, 2013 11:31 PM - Arkady
There you go w/ your Manichean universe again, Legion.
March 6, 2013 11:36 PM - bxgrl
really, Legion? Waterboarding is torture. I'm shocked you can't tell the difference between torturing someone for information you think they possibly have and taking out a terrorist with nuclear material he is putting into a bomb in a house down the street from you.. I also did not say I condoned using drones on American soil- I presented a scenario. So I guess you're one of those people who would weep the loudest if we got hit again, but you really don't want to know who does the dirty work and how they do it? At least I'm honest enough to ask the question and admit I may not like the answers.
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March 7, 2013 12:40 AM - Deleted
ha! tell me that Pinky doesn't look just like Hello Kitty!