Friday Open Thread
February 1, 2013 7:42 AM - dibs
Guns and Ground Hogs.....

February 1, 2013 7:44 AM - dibs
And of course, ground hogs and cats can be friends....
February 1, 2013 7:45 AM - dibs
Some cats think they are groundhogs...
February 1, 2013 7:50 AM - Deleted
And some hedgehogs think they're always right! ;)

Ugh - sick. Staying home.
February 1, 2013 7:51 AM - dibs
What kind of sick warrants staying home????? Hangover?????
February 1, 2013 7:53 AM - dibs
And yes, last night i was talking about Peas and Pickles or whatever it's called...better and cheaper produce than the skanky Gristede's. Oh and BTW, there's a sign as you enter the Gristede's telling you it's a union store.
February 1, 2013 7:55 AM - Deleted
No. Like flu-ey sick.
February 1, 2013 7:55 AM - Deleted
Yeah those god damn supermarket unions
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February 1, 2013 7:56 AM - dibs
I also think things are deteriorating at Jack The Horse. The water didn't have ice in it and it looked like anyone who wanted bread had to ask for it. Plus, IT REALLY IRKS ME when a restaurant puts a menu up on their website and then it's different when you walk in. But the chicken was very good at $23!!! And Xing's burger looked good at $16!!! A bit overpriced. I'l never forgive them for removing the pork belly from the pork loin dish and I told the chef that a few months ago.
Edited at February 1, 2013 7:56 AM
February 1, 2013 7:58 AM - dibs
Did you ever get a flu shot?
February 1, 2013 7:59 AM - Deleted
I've always felt that place was a little expensive for what you get. Although they have the market cornered up there pretty much.
February 1, 2013 7:59 AM - Deleted
Ya I got a flu shot in November
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February 1, 2013 8:00 AM - dibs
Is everyone preparing for Chinese New Year?????
Edited at February 1, 2013 8:00 AM
February 1, 2013 8:02 AM - dibs
Yeah, it is and they do....We went last Friday or Saturday without a reservation at around 700 and it was a 2 hour wait for a table for 2. Any other night it's fine to just walk in. At least they have a reasonale wine list.
February 1, 2013 8:02 AM - dibs
I got the flu shot too but I've had bronchitis and now I'm congested.
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February 1, 2013 8:05 AM - dibs
RIP Ed Koch
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February 1, 2013 8:05 AM - dibs
I hope they give him a big funeral.
February 1, 2013 8:06 AM - Arkady
February 1, 2013 8:07 AM - dibs
It just came across CNBC.
February 1, 2013 8:08 AM - dibs
All over NY1 now. Lots of old pics and footage.
Edited at February 1, 2013 8:08 AM
February 1, 2013 8:09 AM - dibs
Who was it that was his occasional "girlfriend?" Was it Bess Meyerson?
February 1, 2013 8:10 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Ah dibs beat me to it (nh). RIP Ed Koch (h).
Edited at February 1, 2013 8:10 AM
February 1, 2013 8:13 AM - dibs
He got the loan guarantees out of Washington and got the budget balanced a year ahead of time in his first term. He had a lot more style than most Democrats except maybe Moynihan.
February 1, 2013 8:16 AM - CGar
"hate to sound cruel, but I really don't like him and wish he would die already. And take his name off the 59th street bridge while we're at it."

Pete, now look what you've done.

Yes, dave, Bess Myerson was his "lady friend".
February 1, 2013 8:16 AM - rf
For sure he was what the city needed when it needed it. But the end of his final term (when he lost the primary to David Dinkins), he set back race relations in the city for quite some time. More recently he was a pimp for Israel.
February 1, 2013 8:19 AM - sixyearsandcounting
"I don't get ulcers. I give them."
February 1, 2013 8:19 AM - dibs
And Dinkins really did a lot for the city!!!!!
February 1, 2013 8:23 AM - rf
Koch engineered his own demise as mayor. Dinkins was a hack, but voters couldn't overlook Koch's racism.

There's something about the final term of a NYC mayor...
February 1, 2013 8:26 AM - sixyearsandcounting
The cops started using compstat under Dinkins. Start of the major decline in crime Giuliani gets credit for.
February 1, 2013 8:31 AM - rf
Oh for sure Dinkins wasn't nearly as bad as his reputation. But he didn't have the strong personality of Koch who was a hard act to follow! Koch's legacy of enabling corruption (not that he profited personally but there were some terrible scandals in his final term) made Dinkins' job especially difficult I think, since he was a machine guy.
February 1, 2013 8:33 AM - dibs
Unemployment rate rose in January!!
February 1, 2013 8:33 AM - Donatella

RIP Koch. I think he was a great mayor. He helped put the City back on the right path after the 1975 near bankruptcy of NYC. There was a lot of racial turmoil in his last term though I don't know if he was responsible for setting back race relations. Dinkins came in as a good natured, supposed healer of race relations but in my opinion his actions were responsible for one of the worst racial conflagrations in the history of NY, the Crown Heights riots. He was afraid of cracking down on that and ending it, instead sent his deputy, Lynch, to try to end that by talking when he should have sent in police to just end it. Instead it went on for days. That riot set race relations back I thought.

My father absolutely loved Koch. I know he will be sad to hear of his death. I will always be grateful to him for the Canine Waste Law.
February 1, 2013 8:38 AM - dibs
Speaking of old New Yorkers, if Stallone and Schwarzenegger can make comebacks, where's Joe Namath???????
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February 1, 2013 8:39 AM - Donatella

dh, you have been sick A LOT this fall and winter! You too, dibs. You guys need to take better care of yourselves!!! Really. Get a lot of sleep, eat well, drink lots of fluids (juice, water, etc. not booze) and vitamins.

Your mothers paid me to say that.
February 1, 2013 8:40 AM - Donatella

I think the pantyhose killed any chances of a comeback for Namath.
February 1, 2013 8:43 AM - dibs
Marv Alpert came back
February 1, 2013 8:45 AM - Donatella

Right, Six, the drop in crime started with Dinkins who hired a lot more police. I thought Giuliani was a great mayor, but personally a horse's ass. I wouldn't vote for him for any other position. He knew and loved this city and had excellent instincts on what to do regarding the city's fiscal and operational matters. He was a complete jerk about dealing with black groups -- witness the sharp contrast in Bloomberg -- but the sharp drop in crime helped race relations.
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February 1, 2013 8:50 AM - Donatella

Peas and Pickles has good produce dibs. They also sell fish. Is the woman owner nice to you? Pepper and I had a convo last night about the woman owner who pepper named "bitchface" because she is mean to her customers. She was nice to both of us though. She has her favorites. Gristedes was always a gross store. It is actually 100% better than when I lived over there.
February 1, 2013 8:51 AM - Donatella
I am changing my avatar. I am tired of this military tank.
February 1, 2013 8:51 AM - Donatella
Or jeep, rather.
February 1, 2013 8:54 AM - dibs
I rarely see the woman. She's Korean....they can be very grouchy but I've only seen her a few times. Yes, the new fish selection is pretty good.

But their son works there now and he is MAJOR of course the late night Mexican guy who looks at Xing's ass.
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February 1, 2013 8:55 AM - dibs
"I am tired of this military tank."

It's a Jeep, not a tank.

You probably keep turning the key even though it's already running like on "Good Morning Vietnam"
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February 1, 2013 8:56 AM - dibs
Biker Bitch!!!!!!
February 1, 2013 8:59 AM - Donatella

February 1, 2013 9:05 AM - Donatella

Oh and even though Guiliani couldn't let go of his 9-11 brand (sorry but it came to be that), he was great during 9-11. Amazing and great.
February 1, 2013 9:07 AM - dibs
DOW gonna break 14,000 today?????
February 1, 2013 9:07 AM - petebklyn
the rise in crime rates was in an upward trajectory pretty much through 12 years of Koch administration. He was a nasty egocentric prick to the very end.
February 1, 2013 9:09 AM - petebklyn
at least guiliani finally gave up his combover. when is that other nasty egocentric prick Trump going to do that.
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February 1, 2013 9:10 AM - rf
I don't agree about 911, Donatella. He was America's mayor, not necessarily NYC's mayor in spirit.
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February 1, 2013 9:10 AM - dibs
I see Pete's having one of his "good days" today
February 1, 2013 9:11 AM - Donatella

What don't you agree with, rf?
February 1, 2013 9:12 AM - petebklyn
"New York City’s housing market is poised to lag behind other markets for the next two years even as a national recovery in real estate continues" --
How come I don't see this as happening? Why do prices seem even higher now that a supposed peak?
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February 1, 2013 9:12 AM - Deleted
Were there no term limits when Koch was around?
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February 1, 2013 9:13 AM - Deleted
NYC is a big place Pete
February 1, 2013 9:14 AM - petebklyn
Sounds like we are dropping that LI coop. Now what is going to happen to that table project?
February 1, 2013 9:15 AM - Donatella
I don't see that happening either. I can't believe how everything is back up again so much in brownstone Brooklyn.
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February 1, 2013 9:15 AM - petebklyn
right - term limits came after Koch. Only to be undone by King Bloomberg
Edited at February 1, 2013 9:15 AM
February 1, 2013 9:17 AM - dibs
"The citywide total for pedestrian-cyclist injuries was 15,465, according to the analysis by Streetsblog, a Web site that advocates for pedestrians and cyclists."

I know there are bigger problems in NYC but it's time to start cracking down on the bicyclists.

February 1, 2013 9:18 AM - dibs
Explosion in front of US embassy in Turkey.
February 1, 2013 9:18 AM - Donatella
Yes, dh, term limits came after Koch.
February 1, 2013 9:19 AM - dibs
"I can't believe how everything is back up again so much in brownstone Brooklyn."

Well above peak 2007-2009 comps.
February 1, 2013 9:20 AM - Deleted
Dibs - I don't think the quote means what u think it does.
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February 1, 2013 9:22 AM - Deleted
Ie 13k of those were cyclists and pedestrians injured by cars. Reading the entire article help
February 1, 2013 9:23 AM - Deleted
"In all, 11,621 pedestrians and 3,844 cyclists were hurt in collisions with motor vehicles, for a total of 15,465 vulnerable street users injured citywide. Per NYPD policy, few if any of these crashes were investigated by trained officers, even those resulting in serious, life-altering injuries."
February 1, 2013 9:23 AM - petebklyn
why read past the headlines?
February 1, 2013 9:24 AM - Deleted
Time for the "I'm not wrong MORON" song and dance
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February 1, 2013 9:25 AM - Donatella
As far as I am concerned -- and I have said this ad nauseum -- the new religion of bicycling as an alternative green transportation mode is unsafe for everyone. The bike lanes are supposed to confer a sense of safety. They are not safe. They assume a perfect world, with no UPS trucks, double parking, potholes, construction, weather issues, perfect drivers and law abiding cyclists. It assumes that pedestrians don't jaywalk, cars don't run stop signs, nobody double parks and cyclists obey all the rules. Cops here do NOT ticket cars very often for moving violations, they almost NEVER enforce biking rules. In my humble opinion, it is only a matter of time before a cyclist in this city has an accident, whether it is their own doing, the fault of imperfect drivers, and imperfect roads or whatever.

Lambs to slaughter.
Edited at February 1, 2013 9:26 AM
February 1, 2013 9:25 AM - Deleted
So by your previous reasoning - time to start cracking downin cars - amirite?
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February 1, 2013 9:25 AM - Arkady
I waited on Koch at the Limelight (91 7th Av.S, not the notorious one) when he was in the VID & he was cheap & a lousy tipper. Would sit for hours over one refillable coffee & leave a dime.
Edited at February 1, 2013 9:25 AM
February 1, 2013 9:27 AM - Deleted
Yes. Dona. Sounds like cops should start ticketing cars more.
February 1, 2013 9:27 AM - dibs
The messenger morons in Manhattan are the worst
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February 1, 2013 9:27 AM - Arkady
Very well said, Dona.
February 1, 2013 9:28 AM - Deleted
And there was a ridiculous ticketing blitz on cyclists the last couple of yrs.
February 1, 2013 9:28 AM - Deleted
February 1, 2013 9:29 AM - rf
As an inner-city resident who spent lots of time in an immigrant community (daughter had just started Kindergarten in Chinatown), I thought Giuliani was a suburban mayor. I know lots of immigrants of various ethnicities who suffered greatly after 9/11, and I am still haunted thinking about seeing Latina young women taking the subway as close as they could get to the Ground Zero area and walking into the surrounding buildings with their mops and brooms and no protective gear whatsoever before the end of September 2001 when the air was still disgusting in Chinatown. I know Chinatown business people who never recovered from the fact that their neighborhood was closed off for months after 9/11, and didn't get phone service restored for months afterward--not even forwarding to cell phones or home phones--just zero. And it still makes me nuts remembering all the good-hearted cops who came to help and were misdirecting traffic in lower Manhattan as the NYPD tried to put them to work. It was a huge mess. Not saying it was an easy job, not at all, but there was very little consideration for those who, after the direct victims and ground zero workers, were the most affected, because they were invisible to the powers that be.

Also for months I saw male, apparently Arab, green-card holders lined up outside of 26 Federal Plaza for humiliating data checks. Taxi drivers and guys in suits. All that protecting the stable after the horses were gone.

And my daughter's best friend in Kindergarten was half Iranian-American and half Malaysian-American. Her dad was an adjunct teaching math at Baruch and at the College of Staten Island. He told me that for quite some time, colleagues who had known him for years wouldn't go into the elevator with him. I don't think the Guiliani-Pataki-Bush II establishment helped NYC unite in the face of grief and terror.

Of course it didn't help that on the second day my daughter's school reopened (two days after other NYC schools because it was considered part of the disaster zone, even though it is a long block north of Canal St. and two long blocks east of Broadway), there was the gigantic dog-and-pony show of President W visiting. Just what that school community did not need, a photo op for Mr. President, flanked by America's Mayor.

February 1, 2013 9:30 AM - dibs
Yes, I read it wrong. That doesn't mean a lot of the bicyclists aren't out of control. Last year I saw some fucking moron in Manhattan ride through the light and run into a guy on a wheelchair.
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February 1, 2013 9:31 AM - Slopefarm
Koch's victory in the 1977 primary was apparently foretold by Shirley Maclaine's Peruvian psychic. WHile on an extended trek in the Andes in the sumer of 1977, she asked her psychic about her friend Bella Abzug, who was also running in the primary. The psychic told her that Abzug should watch out for a "bald man with long fingers." Next chance she got, she called Abzug and told her (Shirley takes this psychic stuff at least as seriously as you think she does and she expects her friends will, too). Bella's response was to the effect of: "Koch? I'm not worried about him, he's not even showing up in the polls. It's Cuomo I have to worry about." Peruvian psychic - 1, Abzug - 0.
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February 1, 2013 9:32 AM - Arkady
My ex-bf's parents were married the day before Pearl Harbor. They were driving to Niagara for their honeymoon & were jailed as they crossed the border: though they were Chinese they were mistaken for enemy Japanese fleeing the U.S. Xenophobia after any major event.
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February 1, 2013 9:33 AM - Deleted
Wow! Cool story bro. 2 weeks so 3 pedestrians were killed by cars.
February 1, 2013 9:35 AM - petebklyn
Of course there are idiot bicyclists. And when they get behind wheel of car they are idiot drivers.

February 1, 2013 9:37 AM - Slopefarm
Re: Pooper Scooper law, it was enacted by the State legislature, applicable to "cities of one million people or more." Sponsors were State Sen. Franz Leichter and Assemb. Ed Lehner (Lehner later became a State Supreme Court judge, and a really good one, IMHO). Koch advocated for the law but he could not get City Council to pass it, so he went to the state. Though the republicans controlled the State Senate at the time and rarely passed bills sponsored by dems, they let Leichter's "dogshit bill" pass because they thought it would make Leichter -- usually a thorn in the side of Senate GOP -- a laughingstock. The law proved quite popular.
February 1, 2013 9:37 AM - rf
22 Jane St. for sale
February 1, 2013 9:37 AM - petebklyn
I think any increase in car, bike or pedestrian deaths should be attributed to idiotPhone users who never pay attention to anything other than their effing addiction to their idiotPhone
February 1, 2013 9:38 AM - Donatella
dh, I know you spent a lot of time waging war with cars on your bicycle. But I contend rather than a bikes vs cars discussion (it always degenerates to this), it is more helpful to see the whole thing as a waste and a lie. Bike lanes are not safe. Biking in this city is not safe. There are too many variables to control. Just look at the bike lanes. Our biggest form of commercial activity is online commerce and stuff is delivered by UPS trucks. Who double park. In bike lanes. Are we going to ban UPS trucks? So a cyclist has to cycle around the truck. Which is dangerous. That is just one of so many examples of unsafe conditions for cyclists. For drivers, it adds yet another thing to pay attention to. I really think of myself as a careful and defensive driver. I am responsible, never trying to prove a point, obey all traffic rules. However, I have had so many near misses with bikes with leave my heart pounding. And rather than point fingers at the cyclists, I say it is simply impossible to make work. Too many variables. I would NEVER in my wildest dreams advise anyone to bike on NYC streets.
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February 1, 2013 9:41 AM - CGar
I see rf and donatella took Dulcolax before they started posting today. Wow, too long!
February 1, 2013 9:42 AM - CGar
Pete, I saw you post about title or something, but why, after all you've done already, are you giving up on the co-op altogether?
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February 1, 2013 9:43 AM - petebklyn
Do you hear many people asking for your advice?
February 1, 2013 9:44 AM - CGar
dave, since you've corrupted me as always, I couldn't help but look at the Mexican guy waiting on me at the new Chipotle on Court Street in Cobble Hill last night and think, "Hmmm, dave would like him."

As for Chipotle, I'd never eaten there before, and I think it's overrated given all the hype I've heard, but I did really like it. Excellent vegetarian burrito bowls with cilantro-lime rice 2 nights in a row. I ditched the 300 calorie tortilla for the no cal bowl.
February 1, 2013 9:44 AM - MontroseMorris
Koch loved being mayor the way Marty Markowitz loves being borough president. Unfortunately, his last term defines his tenure, as it was horrible from start to finish. That's too bad, as he was mayor during some of the city's lean years, and he did a lot with what he had. But no one made him make the decisions he made in his last term.

Dinkins was not that bad a mayor, on the whole. Donatella, you are right, he was a machine politician, and that was his weakness, but I thought he tried to be fair, and erred on the side of not being tough enough when he needed to be. I think people don't understand the dynamic of being the first black mayor of NYC in a city that was, and is, very polarized. Like Obama, Dinkins was constantly aware that he had to walk a certain way as to not be accused of "favoring" black people, or causes.

I think the Crown Heights riots were a personal tragedy for him in several ways. He enjoyed a good relationship with the Jewish commmunity on the whole, before that, and was considered a friend, and supporter of Jewish causes, Israel, etc. That was a partnership that helped him get elected, and one that he had honestly worked on throughout his long political career. He was also well respected in the black community, but to be honest, he did not have strong ties with the Brooklyn Caribbean American community. He was a Harlem man, through and through. Harlem is mostly African American, with roots in the South, not the Caribbean.

When the accident happened that triggered the riot, I don't think anyone thought it would escalate the way it did. Hotheads on both sides fanned the flames with rhetoric, and unfortunately, some of the black hotheads were armed. It was disgusting and tragic. I don't think Dinkins got good information, I think he did not want to send the police in like storm troopers, well aware of the historic symbolism to both sides, and I think he erred on the side of caution, which allowed the riots to continue far past time to stop.

I think he was taken aback when both sides and the public excoriated him for what happened, and I bet he still thinks about it. It's one of those cases where trying to be the voice of reason and calm is useless, and some good old fashioned head banging is called for. Yet, he was in a lose-lose position. If he had had the cops go in with guns blazing, we'd be blaming him for the Crown Heights Police Massacre. He couldn't win.
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February 1, 2013 9:45 AM - CGar
PS, Pete, lesbiman's table is beautiful, so I'm sure you'll find a place for it.
Edited at February 1, 2013 9:45 AM
February 1, 2013 9:45 AM - Donatella

Get outta my way, Penguin boy, there's more!!

I contend that with the current biking as the new enviornomental panacea, new age green religion foisted on this city, it requires both drivers and cyclists to have the concentration of fighter pilots. I bet it requires less concentration to operate a crane or other complex machines. And it is still unsafe.
February 1, 2013 9:46 AM - petebklyn
i think he is getting more used to the commute and acclimated to staying in the hotel one night a week. Can always rent
something if change mind.
So this endless wait to close for a job that he could retire from in 4 years now.
The attorney says they have no idea how long will take now.
Edited at February 1, 2013 9:46 AM
February 1, 2013 9:49 AM - CGar
"Get outta my way, Penguin boy, there's more!!"

Spew all you want, dona. But, I'm packing up my abandoned office on Water Street today (VERY EERIE to be in an abandoned office building in a near empty area), so no time for me to read, and you know that I secretly read all your plather. Today's posts, I'm afraid, will have to wait until I retire.
February 1, 2013 9:50 AM - Donatella
I think that rf mentioned that Dinkins was a machine pol, MM. I think that Dinkins heart was in the right place, MM. I think he is a good guy and I think that people were sick of Koch in his last term and yes, he was abrasive as hell and it grated. And it is too bad that Crown Heights worked out the way it did, because that was never his intention. He just showed very poor judgement in letting that riot go on. He hesitated to "turn on the hoses" because he thought it could all be worked out, but it was clearly out of control and by not treating it as a riot, it escalated and persisted for several days
February 1, 2013 9:50 AM - rf
Interesting to me because I lived on Horatio St. between Washington and Greenwich back in the bad old days just before Koch was elected mayor. Jane St. was always nicer than Gansevoort or Horatio but the far West Village was very different then!
February 1, 2013 9:51 AM - DeLepp
rf, that jane street, all that ghastly white, ugh. I'm sure it's that way to show off his vessels, but if they are not holding butter or gin it's just obsessive. Looks like fancy dermatologist office.
February 1, 2013 9:52 AM - rf
Yes, DeLepp, and much worse after all the art is gone! (edited--sorry DeLepp and Pete!)
February 1, 2013 9:53 AM - Donatella
CGar: Today's posts, I'm afraid, will have to wait until I retire.

Haha, good luck today, CGar.

I feel myself sinking into OT quicksand today and I need to stop before it consumes my day.

February 1, 2013 9:53 AM - Donatella
Have a good day, losers!!!

February 1, 2013 9:54 AM - DeLepp
Those 1960 duplexes(which look like the ones off cadman plaza) built in the far west village, probably cost a fortune now. I used to remember the story behind them...
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February 1, 2013 9:57 AM - CGar
I agree with DeLepp about 22 Jane. That was directly behind where I used to live back in the day. Not wild about the interior, though I like the pottery in the kitchen. Reminds me I have a Jim Dine in storage that I need to figure out how to sell.
February 1, 2013 9:57 AM - dibs
One of the Cadman duplexes sold last year...before things really started taking off but I think the number was surprisingly high to most people. Can't remember what it was.
February 1, 2013 9:59 AM - CGar
"Interesting to me because I lived on Horatio St. between Washington and Greenwich back in the bad old days"

Oh, good, God! When did you live there, rf??? I lived on West 12th between Hudson and 8th, on Abingdon Square Park, from 1986 through 1990. I loved the West Village back then. And I agree about Jane versus Horatio or Gansevoort.
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February 1, 2013 10:00 AM - rf
I know someone who has one of those Cadman duplexes. Lived in Xing's building for many years and waited for their name to come up on the list.
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February 1, 2013 10:00 AM - dibs
When I first moved to NYC in 94, I lived on 22nd between 8 & 9 but only for 2 months.
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February 1, 2013 10:01 AM - DeLepp
I can't remember who they were built for but they were two bedroom duplexes way way west, and I thought they were rentals and were cheaper than my small BH studio in 1990.
February 1, 2013 10:01 AM - rf
CGar, I think 1975-77. For sure I was there for the Bicentennial. You were probably still in elementary school then.
February 1, 2013 10:01 AM - dibs
Aren't those townhouses fully deregulated now????
February 1, 2013 10:02 AM - dibs
Still in college in 1975-77
February 1, 2013 10:04 AM - MontroseMorris
Right, Donatella, Rf, sorry. I agree with you 100% about "America's Mayor" after 9/11. I will give him all credit for his actions right afterwards, he was calm, a strong presence, and it really was his finest hour. He began to lose the glow a few months afterwards when he contemplated changing the rules of the mayoral election, which Bloomberg, ironically, wasn't having.

It was interesting, also, his relationship with the police and fire dept. They loved him in the beginning, as he was one of them, especially with the cops. The police rank and file had no respect for Dinkins, and their union leadership was outright disrespectful, even though Dinkins had hired more cops, and was enacting a much larger role for the police. Another lose-lose for him, nothing he did worked for them.

However by the end of Giuliani's last term, his relationship with the cops and firemen was deteriorating badly. He made up for it during 9/11, and then lost them again after he left office by some of his actions regarding his, and their roles in the aftermath. To hear him tell it, he personally held the city together.
Edited at February 1, 2013 10:04 AM
February 1, 2013 10:05 AM - CGar
I was Bar Mitzvah'd in 1977 and still going to summer camp.
February 1, 2013 10:07 AM - rf
DeLepp, are you talking about the lowrise walkup buildings between Barrow and Morton, Washington and the West Side Highway? I had a friend there who moved in when they were built. They were rent-stabilized. She died suddenly about 10 years ago when they were in the midst of a much-disputed coop or condo conversion. For sure the owners made out like bandits on her unit since they didn't have to sell to her at the insider price or buy her out.
February 1, 2013 10:07 AM - Slopefarm
My bar mitzvah -- June 1976.
February 1, 2013 10:08 AM - dibs
DOW 14,000!
February 1, 2013 10:08 AM - rf
Does it count if it hits the mark before the closing bell?
February 1, 2013 10:09 AM - pepper
Another delighful side effect of encouraging bicycles? A sharp increase in their presence on crowded rush hour subways....
February 1, 2013 10:10 AM - dibs
Hitting 14,000, trading down and then closing above would be the most bullish sign.
February 1, 2013 10:11 AM - dibs
MM....where did that link go?????
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February 1, 2013 10:12 AM - MontroseMorris
It was for the Cadman Plaza houses, and DeLepp was talking about the West Village. So I took it down. Here it is, if you're interested:
February 1, 2013 10:14 AM - petebklyn
"DOW 14,000!" -- that investor class sure does love socialism!!
February 1, 2013 10:15 AM - dibs
Thanks. So they are fully deregulated now???

And do they have their own condo association or are they regarded as separate single families??
Edited at February 1, 2013 10:19 AM
February 1, 2013 10:15 AM - DeLepp
rf, yep those. they were nice units. Prime spot for RC.
February 1, 2013 10:17 AM - rf
RC? Roman Catholic? Rower Chick?
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February 1, 2013 10:19 AM - dibs
RC Cola, rf.
February 1, 2013 10:20 AM - MontroseMorris
Dave, if you are asking me, I have no idea.
February 1, 2013 10:22 AM - DeLepp
Rent control
February 1, 2013 10:23 AM - rf
Because they got public subsidies, they were rent-stabilized.
February 1, 2013 10:26 AM - Deleted
I freakin hate when people bring their bikes on rush hour trains - yeah - maybe u get a flat or something - but other than that? Ride it!!!
February 1, 2013 10:32 AM - CGar
How ya feelin', Holmes?
February 1, 2013 10:32 AM - CGar
DeLepp, where are the duplexes you're talking about in the West Village?
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February 1, 2013 10:33 AM - petebklyn
I remember going to the Duplex in the village with a bunch of losers once. Oh What a Night.
February 1, 2013 10:34 AM - DeLepp
A old friend in amstedam was an artist, got a monthly stipend and a terrific 1 bedroom apt with terrace on a canal for little $. Crossed the pond for his gallery opening one year(when $$$ was strong). Interesting art based on his travels thru SE asia.
February 1, 2013 10:34 AM - rf
My friend's wasn't a duplex. It was a two-bedroom on the third floor, with a beautiful full kitchen, ok living room, small and smaller bedrooms. She was on Morton between Washington and West, but the buildings went through to Barrow.
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February 1, 2013 10:35 AM - DeLepp
c-gar, over by barrow and morton according to rf.
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February 1, 2013 10:35 AM - Deleted
Like shit. Gonna hit up the pharmacy on Vanderbilt soon for some cold stuff.
February 1, 2013 10:36 AM - rf
That's a great pharmacy! Although they hiked up their prescription drug prices when they got a fancy new computer system a few years ago.
February 1, 2013 10:39 AM - DeLepp
Prospect pharmacy is a gem. NightnDay with the CVSs of the world. Good morning/ can I help you...thank you.
February 1, 2013 10:40 AM - DeLepp
had to check my pulse.
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February 1, 2013 10:40 AM - CGar
"I remember going to the Duplex in the village with a bunch of losers once. Oh What a Night."

Oh, yes, the cum rags they were a'flying that night.
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February 1, 2013 10:41 AM - CGar
Sorry to hear it, DH. Best take care of yourself, young man!
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February 1, 2013 10:42 AM - Slopefarm
"Oh, yes, the cum rags they were a'flying that night."

Surely, you jest.

February 1, 2013 10:45 AM - Deleted
Thanks! I'm gonna blame it on the weather and the fact my office is 80 fuckin degrees. (Thinking upper resp infection rather than flu).

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February 1, 2013 10:46 AM - CGar
"Surely, you jest."

I jest infinitely, Slopey.
February 1, 2013 10:48 AM - Deleted
Yeah guys - that pharmacy is really good. I usually pop in there to get toiletries but the pharmacy part looks legit.
February 1, 2013 10:51 AM - Slopefarm
LOL. (Not at you, dh, feel better. Make yourself some ginger root tea (simmer a piece of fresh ginger root in a small pot of water) and drink it warm, not hot.
February 1, 2013 10:53 AM - Deleted
Thanks slopey (ipad just autocorrected to sloppy). I'm such a baby when I'm sick.
February 1, 2013 10:58 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Some RE agency is selling the sponsor apts in my building for like $20K less than I'd say they're worth. Is that typical for sponsor sales in coops?
February 1, 2013 11:02 AM - dibs
$20k isnt a lot these days for brooklyn coops. Do you have recent comps to compare them to?
February 1, 2013 11:06 AM - DeLepp
6yrs, usually more as anyone can buy them without board approval. Maybe they are not renovating them. Buyer typically pays both buyer/seller taxes in sponser sales.
February 1, 2013 11:08 AM - sixyearsandcounting
$20K less - as in, they're asking $149K for a 1BR when they should go for like $170K or more. I don't have the comps at hand, just an unscientific impression. Shareholders usually ask $190K or more for a 1 BR in my building.
February 1, 2013 11:11 AM - dibs
What part of brooklyn are you in?
February 1, 2013 11:18 AM - Deleted
Lol seriously dibs?
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February 1, 2013 11:22 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Haha dh! Go easy, the old man's getting senile.
February 1, 2013 11:23 AM - rf
Just curious: what's the maintenance?
February 1, 2013 11:25 AM - bxgrl
RF- you really nailed it about Giuliani and 9/11- He was good as a media hog, but in actuality, well....he loved being on camera. And it wasn't after he left office that he lost the NYPD and FDNY- it started the day he decided to kick FDNY off the site- in October/November) and tried to make it a construction site. He wanted everything bulldozed and cleared our. He set the police and fire dept. against each other, and although the cops did their jobs, they were furious at him and despite all you hear about cops and firefighters not liking each other, when it came down to brass tacks, they were brothers. I was down there that day they had the confrontation. Never saw cops so upset, especially when they were forced to arrest firefighters who were digging for people.

And I also liked Dinkins- I think he tried t cool down the riots, but didn't know how. But I do believe he did not want to send in massive amounts of police in riot gear, thinking it would be like adding fuel to the fire. I don't think we'll ever know what would have worked. Probably nothing- the hate had been building for years. I know people who believe the rabbi deliberately aimed for Gavin Cato. That's how much at odds the 2 communities were.
February 1, 2013 11:27 AM - bxgrl
Take care of yourself, DH- drink lots of giner tea and green tea. Or just drink ;-)
February 1, 2013 11:33 AM - sixyearsandcounting
I don't know, rf, but I'd guess somewhere around $600 - figures were on the flyer in the lobby but I'm not home now.
February 1, 2013 11:35 AM - Arkady
PSA - Service disruptions on N, Q & R because of water main break - don't know where.
Also new forecast for Sunday - maybe significant snow!!
February 1, 2013 11:36 AM - Deleted
Haha bx!! I think I'm gonna lay off the drinking for a while. Haven't been nearly as bad as I was during my bender - but probably couldn't hurt.
February 1, 2013 11:36 AM - dibs
Snowing in Philly now
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February 1, 2013 11:37 AM - Deleted
How's the moon face situation down near u nowadays six? 200k is tempting.
February 1, 2013 11:48 AM - sixyearsandcounting
DH, it's not as bad as anywhere in northern Brooklyn, but Rob would still hate it. Lots of coffee shops for the laptop mafia and two more in the pipeline. Sycamore, one dive bar, and another moonface bar in the works. If you buy near the B/Q of course co-ops are a bit more expensive...but I'd aim for Newkirk Plaza if you want a convenient but non-moonfacey area that will gentrify soon enough.
February 1, 2013 11:51 AM - sixyearsandcounting
^^^^ie B/Q near Cortelyou is currently more expensive, especially west of the tracks.
February 1, 2013 12:01 PM - Donatella
I looked out my kitchen window and saw a little squirrel, a young'un, gobbling down some seeds from the monster tree. His coat looked a little thin and patchy. Then he got really close to the window and I could see little patches of fur missing and thought he might be sick.

Then it hit me! This is a SQUIRREL. I had a 2 second flash of sympathy for a SQUIRREL.

What is happening to me???
February 1, 2013 12:04 PM - MontroseMorris
Squirrels are God's creatures, too, Dona.
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February 1, 2013 12:04 PM - bxgrl
Frightening, donatella- we thought you learned your lesson :)
February 1, 2013 12:05 PM - bxgrl
OK- MM is right. Where would we be without Rocky?
February 1, 2013 12:06 PM - MontroseMorris
At least they aren't armed, like Dave's woodchucks.
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February 1, 2013 12:09 PM - Slopefarm
"Squirrels are God's creatures, too, Dona."

LOL. Reminds me. On our honeymoon in Costa Rica, we woke up one morning to see a scorpion in the middle of our cabin floor. Mrs. Slopey wanted me to kill it. I was afraid to go near it and try to kill it but rather than (overtly) admit that, I said it was one of God's creatures, the inference being that I was refusing to kill it on some sort of humanitarian principle. Somehow I managed to cover it with a frisbee and then put a heavy book on top of the frisbee. Then I went and got the staff. Mrs. Slopey was not amused. Or rather, she was a little too amused at my expense.

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February 1, 2013 12:10 PM - Slopefarm
that's a very Nixonian squirrel you posted there, MM.
February 1, 2013 12:11 PM - dibs
There's a squirrel who hangs out near the building on the NE corner of Henry & Pierrpont who will follow people looking for treats.
February 1, 2013 12:13 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Dona won't have that squirrel to kick around anymore, Slopey.
February 1, 2013 12:21 PM - Slopefarm
I suspect dona's on the enemies list.
February 1, 2013 12:28 PM - Arkady
Squirrels here really lucked out - I had to lower the feeders so they had access to all the goodies for 24 hours. Had to refill all the feeders.
February 1, 2013 12:33 PM - sixyearsandcounting
When it comes to squirrels, Dona's just a nattering nabob of negativism.
February 1, 2013 12:40 PM - Slopefarm
LOL, 6. That's the spiro.
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February 1, 2013 12:44 PM - Deleted
I stayed home sick today too. I called in and apparently others (who sit near me) also called in sick. This is the third time I've been ill this winter. I seriously think it's stress related with a bit of seasonal affective disorder (not work stress related, but other things). I called in and went back to sleep then had a crazy ass dream and in one part of my dream I was thinking about my desk and was like WAKE THE FUCK UP! Most lucid dream ever. Woke up, and seriously bugged out cuz I couldnt find my phone (it fell behind my couch cuz I put it on the ledge near the wall when I call in sick). I had to deposit a 300,000 dollars check first thing this morning. I asked the general manager to deposit it for me. Im going back to sleep. At least I have all weekend to feel better.

February 1, 2013 12:44 PM - CGar
Ugh. I don't want to clean out and pack my own office. Imagine how much I enjoy cleaning out my terminated admin's desk. At least she had a good stapler that I can take.
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February 1, 2013 12:46 PM - Slope4Eva
They finally got rid of her, CGar? Was it ugly?
February 1, 2013 12:57 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Yup, Slope - and Spiro had a way with words. My favorite was "pusillanimous pussyfooters."
Edited at February 1, 2013 12:57 PM
February 1, 2013 12:58 PM - bxgrl
This past summer I had the back kitchen window boarded up til MM moved in and there was a mother with baby squirrels nesting between the boards and the window. They were so cute. I thought immediately of dona :)
February 1, 2013 12:58 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"At least she had a good stapler that I can take."

We all rely on your eternal optimism, CGar.
February 1, 2013 1:09 PM - Arkady
What about a punch, CG?
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February 1, 2013 1:12 PM - Slopefarm
A punch? Like this?
Edited at February 1, 2013 1:12 PM
February 1, 2013 1:15 PM - Deleted
The dog is also sick. Diahrea since yesterday and yesterday he puked in his crate. I think my roommate is going to bring him to the vet tomorrow.

Have to change Dudley's tank today, and then I am done changing tanks for a good 3 days.

February 1, 2013 1:15 PM - CGar
Eva, would had another major round of layoffs 2 weeks ago (RIFs, i.e., Reduction in Force, in corporate speak), so she was one of six people in my rather small department let go. Ugly overall.

Six, I took her ruler, too.

Arkady, I've been punched enough for one week, thank you very much.
February 1, 2013 1:17 PM - Deleted
Oh and last night I put Jamie Lee Curtis' tank on top of the toilet tank in the bathroom because there's a plug near the toilet and sink so I can plug in her heater. It's too cold for her to be in the kitching/living room with no plug for a heater.

February 1, 2013 1:21 PM - Slope4Eva
Oh, that stinks, CGar. Glad you were spared.

February 1, 2013 1:23 PM - Deleted
I've heard of helicopter parents - but never helicopter fish owners
February 1, 2013 1:34 PM - Arkady
More submarine than helicopter.
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February 1, 2013 1:38 PM - Deleted
Hahahaha good point.
Edited at February 1, 2013 1:38 PM
February 1, 2013 1:40 PM - Slopefarm
Hovercraft fish owners, perhaps?

BTW, rob, do you have a fish license?
February 1, 2013 1:41 PM - Partridge
Just sent a proposal for the space I saw last week. The one on Smith, 3 blocks away that needs a storefront.

Thanks for your advice all on The Avenue. The potential loss of 50-100% of my existing customer base was enough to have me lean toward the closer yet more expensive option. We'll see if they go for my offer.
February 1, 2013 1:51 PM - pepper
Good luck Partridge. Are you still hoping to negotiate with the current LL, or have you resigned yourself to the unenviable task of moving?
February 1, 2013 2:07 PM - Arkady
Hilarious! I hadn't seen that one before, Slopey.
February 1, 2013 2:09 PM - Donatella
Bxgrl, squirrels ARE cute. From a distance. A LONG distance.
Edited at February 1, 2013 2:09 PM
February 1, 2013 2:13 PM - Donatella
Good luck Part.
Edited at February 1, 2013 2:13 PM
February 1, 2013 2:13 PM - Slopefarm
Well, it is from an early episode so perhaps you didn't have a telly yet.

I love the spoken intro to the song, worth reprinting here for its rhyme scheme and economy of wit and confusion:
Half a bee, philosophically,
Must, ipso facto, half not be.
But half the bee has got to be
Vis a vis, its entity. D'you see?

But can a bee be said to be
Or not to be an entire bee
When half the bee is not a bee
Due to some ancient injury?

February 1, 2013 2:16 PM - Slopefarm
It's one of farmhand's favorites, along with Anne Elk, Dead Parrot and, of course, the Argument Clinic.
Edited at February 1, 2013 2:16 PM
February 1, 2013 2:18 PM - Deleted
David Dinkins was a miserable failure of a mayor. Let's not even talk about Crown Heights. Let's talk about how he did nothing about the Korean grocer boycott on Church Ave, which was an explicitly racist act (Don't buy from them, they don't look like us). Even the NY Times was beside itself about the situation, urging Dinkins in an editorial to do something about an explicitly racist act.

Let's not also forget that the term "Defining Deviancy Down" was coined by a Democrat - Senator Moynihan - in describing Dinkins' attitude about crime.
February 1, 2013 2:18 PM - Partridge
Could still go either way, Pepper. New location will give me better sales. I'm sure. Current location requires addition revenue stream from something (?) Marketing or different products or signage or on-line or all of the above. I have an aversion to those things. Much prefer the location doing the work for me theory better.
Edited at February 1, 2013 2:18 PM
February 1, 2013 2:21 PM - Deleted
boy part, sounds like quite the quandary. good luck with your decision.
February 1, 2013 2:22 PM - Deleted
i'm so loopy on OTC drugs right now. had some leftover antibiotics too.
February 1, 2013 2:23 PM - Deleted
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February 1, 2013 2:24 PM - Partridge
That's it. Empty the med cab. Careful silly boy.
February 1, 2013 2:33 PM - Slopefarm
LOL, looks like Iran faked the monkey space launch. Either that or they sent one monkey up, left him there, and found a different one and brought him back.
February 1, 2013 2:34 PM - Partridge

Just heard back from peeps at gorgeous Atlantic Ave space. Owner very excited about me as tenant. Willing to drop price even further. Will now be $800. less than my current and $1200. less than my lease obligation price which my LL wants from me now.
February 1, 2013 2:37 PM - Deleted
Another point about Dinkins and this claim that he started to revamp the NYPD to start the decline in crime. Folks have a selective memory about what happened there. The Democratic/liberal establishment in this town knew that its viability was in question. The issue came to a head when a tourist from Utah was murdered on the subway, and Dinkins claimed that he just didn't have the time to console the grieving family. Yet, when a worthless dreg of a drug dealer (Jose "Chico" Garcia) was shot in a scuffle with a police officer, Dinkins rushed to be by the side of his mother.

That is when Moynihan made his famous "Defining Deviancy Down" speech. Dinkins was read the riot act by the liberal establishment in this town, and he was forced to fire Lee "Out of Town" Brown and bring in Bill Bratton.
February 1, 2013 2:38 PM - bxgrl
Part- sounds gerat1 Oh wait- but you don't want to go to Atlantic?
February 1, 2013 2:38 PM - Deleted
sweet! does that make atlantic more attractive now?
February 1, 2013 2:39 PM - Partridge
NOW I do, Bx.
February 1, 2013 2:42 PM - Slopefarm
Or the monkey found a veterinary dermatologist in space and got his mole removed and a fur dye job before returning to earth. Must be a vet tailor up there, too, because he came back in a nice tuxedo.
February 1, 2013 2:44 PM - MontroseMorris
Well, that's your opinion, Benson. I didn't expect you to have a single nice thing to say about him anyway, so no surprise there.
February 1, 2013 2:44 PM - Slopefarm
Damn, lookin for the Sprockets video in which Dieter launched a monkey into space "because art is dead." NBC aggressive at pulling that stuff down.
February 1, 2013 2:45 PM - Partridge
Atlantic rent = 2 or 3 rug sales per month!
February 1, 2013 2:50 PM - dibs
Congrats, Part. I guess this means lower prices in the store too!!!!!!
February 1, 2013 2:54 PM - dibs
Only on Hulu, Slopey.
Edited at February 1, 2013 2:54 PM
February 1, 2013 2:55 PM - pepper
Oh, Partridge, this is getting really, really sticky. Not knowing what any of your other numbers look like, at that kind of a rent relief, sounds like it might actually make sense to take the risk of "starting over"...
February 1, 2013 3:00 PM - CGar
"Current location requires addition revenue stream from something (?) Marketing or different products or signage or on-line or all of the above. I have an aversion to those things."

partridge, one of my BFF's son's, whom I've literally known my entire life, has an Internet start-up business who may be able to assist with some of that. He lives in Cobble Hill. I was planning to introduce you to him, so that the two of you can at least meet and talk. Nothing to lose but the time of the meeting.
February 1, 2013 3:01 PM - CGar
"i'm so loopy on OTC drugs right now."

That's your story and you're sticking to it???
February 1, 2013 3:02 PM - CGar
Yum. Stopped again at Chipotle for a veggie burrito bowl with Cilantro-Lime rice.
February 1, 2013 3:03 PM - Donatella

Oh now I see what you were saying, rf, that Giuliani was more of a national leader/symbol of steadfastness than Bush after 9/11 and so that is your meaning; that he wasn't necessarily as much of a leader for NYC. He was certainly a flawed in the personal sense, (and all the prostate cancer public meltdown and then public humiliation of his wife) but I think he was great during 9-11.
February 1, 2013 3:04 PM - CGar
"Or the monkey found a veterinary dermatologist in space and got his mole removed and a fur dye job before returning to earth. Must be a vet tailor up there, too, because he came back in a nice tuxedo."

You sure you're still talking about the monkey? Sounds very much like, "I have this friend who found a dermatologist . . . "

February 1, 2013 3:04 PM - Partridge
"this means lower prices in the store too!"

No, this means Partridge smells a salary and not just a lifestyle.

Pep, yes on The Avenue I would focus more heavily on 2 very successful rug companies. One has a partnership program that will drive new customers to by store. The other is extremely well know and loved in Brooklyn.

Ah! Quick decision needed!!!!
February 1, 2013 3:05 PM - CGar
"this is getting really, really sticky"

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February 1, 2013 3:08 PM - Donatella
One thing about Giuliani also was that he was ubiquitous. And he never stopped. There was a 15 alarm fire at the St. Gerorge Hotel, I think in 96 and the firemen were at it all night long dousing the flames. The whole area was filled with fire trucks and various companies, the pumps going and hundreds of guys on the street all night long. This was literally 100 feet from my house. I slept through it all. With the windows open. (Neighbors couldn't believe it). Anyway, I finally threw on a pair of shorts to see what the racket was all about in the street at 6 am and sort of stumbled, pre-coffee down the front stairs and who is there, reaching out to shake my hand? Giuliani. Hanging out on my brownstone steps. Mingling with the firemen and neighbors.
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February 1, 2013 3:09 PM - Partridge
Thanks Penguin, would love to meet!
February 1, 2013 3:13 PM - Slopefarm
Read the article, CGar. The monkey they supposedly sent up had light fur and a mole. The monkey they paraded around after the "return had darker fur and no mole, but was wearing a tux.
February 1, 2013 3:15 PM - Deleted
Giuliani was the mayor who saved NYC from the wreckage of liberal excess, as personified by the moyoralty of David Dinkins. Rf can spin it all she wants, but that is how history will remember him wrt NYC.
February 1, 2013 3:23 PM - Slopefarm
So, is anyone shocked the monkey launch was a fake?

Or, as the old Jamaican (or Nigerian, depends who you believe) proverb goes: the higher the monkey climbs the more him expose. There's a great old ska song to that effect but I can't find the vid.
February 1, 2013 3:27 PM - pepper
Eeeeeeew, CGar...
February 1, 2013 3:28 PM - Slopefarm
Have to settle for this:
February 1, 2013 3:30 PM - MontroseMorris
"Giuliani was the mayor who saved NYC from the wreckage of liberal excess, as personified by the moyoralty of David Dinkins. Rf can spin it all she wants, but that is how history will remember him wrt NYC."

Oh, please. get real. "Liberal excess?" Don't you guys get tired of overusing the word? Again, regarding Dinkins, that's YOUR opinion.
February 1, 2013 3:32 PM - CGar
"Giuliani was the mayor who saved NYC from the wreckage of liberal excess"

Yeah, not. (And I say that having voted for him twice, so spare me more of your anti-Democratic boilerplate.)
February 1, 2013 3:35 PM - Deleted

I didn't say "liberalism", I said "Liberal excess". Moreover, it is not just my opinion, it was the opinion of many a liberal and Democrat at the time. I've cited Moynihan's famous phrase. I will also point out that Ed Koch had had it with liberals of Dinkins' ilk, which is why he and a host of Democrats endorsed Giuliani at the time.
February 1, 2013 3:35 PM - CGar
"Eeeeeeew, CGar..."

Exactly how long were you lurking, Pepper, if THAT gets an "Eeeeeeew"???

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February 1, 2013 3:35 PM - Slopefarm
Nice to see someone else terrorized by the moron cats for a change.
Edited at February 1, 2013 3:35 PM
February 1, 2013 3:35 PM - CGar
And what the hell kind of dumbass choice was Chuck Hagel for Defense Secretary?

And other than his BF Lindsey Graham, does John McCain have anything other than EX-friends anymore???
February 1, 2013 3:38 PM - CGar
More fun to email them to you at work, Skippy, in the hopes that they're reviewing your emails. I'd love to hear your explanation for that.
February 1, 2013 3:39 PM - Arkady
Using what I've learned here w/ thanks to Dona:
heso magari.
February 1, 2013 3:40 PM - Slopefarm
I have to run but I agree on Hagel. Most of the questions had much to do with political point-scoring and little to do with the business of running the defense department, but they were circulating in the media for weeks so he had to know they were coming (nh) and there was ample chance to prepare. A key skill of any cabinet post is testifying before congress. If yesterday's hearing was any indication, Hagel's in over his head.

LIke I said, the higher the monkey climbs . . .
February 1, 2013 3:41 PM - Slopefarm
Well, thanks you you I've had to open up a cat-related legal matter. that way, I can say we're exchanging e-discovery.
Edited at February 1, 2013 3:41 PM
February 1, 2013 3:43 PM - Arkady
What about your cricket-playing trayfe, Slops?
February 1, 2013 3:44 PM - MontroseMorris
Benson, considering Dinkins took his job, I hardly think Ed Koch would have endorsed him, no matter if Dinkins had walked on water, and turned the Hudson into wine. Giuliani wasn't the only one with a vindictive streak. Ed Koch has endorsed all kinds of people, for all kinds of reasons, that made sense only to Ed Koch, so I wouldn't use him as a lightning rod for what Democrats are going to do, or think.

And Moynihan, who I do have respect for, also had his issues, especially regarding race, so all in all, your statement remains nothing more than opinion, not the holy writ, just because a Democrat doth spake it.

February 1, 2013 3:47 PM - CGar
"heso magari."

What the fuck language are you speaking now??? What part of I can't understand you in British, let alone French, and now this nonsense???

Laytner's this weekend? I think my niece is coming next weekend. My sister-in-law (not you, MM, one of the other ones) thinks I'm entertaining her all weekend, in between sword dancing matches or contests or whatever the hell they are, but no. That said, I do need sheets and blankets for her.
February 1, 2013 3:49 PM - Deleted

If you think I'm talking boilerplate, I suggest that you read a copy of Moynihan's famous "Defining Deviancy Down" speech . My favorite part of the speech is when Moynihan goes through a litany of how much NYC's Democratic machine used to accomplish, citing the fact that the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge was built in 13 months. At that point in the speech, he stared at Dinkins and shouted at him something like "Things WORKED then, Mr. Mayor, They WORKED".
February 1, 2013 3:55 PM - pepper
I don't know exactly how long I was lurking. (I forgot to mark that momentous day on my calendar). Just because much worse has been said here, doesn't make what you said unyucky. I stand by my eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew. :p
February 1, 2013 3:56 PM - CGar
MM is too funny in that Boerum Hill design thread today. >>>
Edited at February 1, 2013 3:56 PM
February 1, 2013 3:59 PM - CGar
Getting emails right and left that light fixtures and furniture have shipped and are en route. Saw my contractor today. Very excited to be nearing the end of this process . . . not half as much as you all are, I know, I know.
Edited at February 1, 2013 3:59 PM
February 1, 2013 4:01 PM - MontroseMorris
Thanks, CGar. It was the truth.
Edited at February 1, 2013 4:01 PM
February 1, 2013 4:05 PM - MontroseMorris
CGar, does your building have a doorman to accept packages?
February 1, 2013 4:05 PM - DeLepp
You've been upgraded to just HM.
Edited at February 1, 2013 4:05 PM
February 1, 2013 4:08 PM - CGar
No, MM, but UPS, etc. deliver 3 times/day and either leave outside my door or in the lobby, which has a package room that tenants access with your keys? Why? Are you crating bxgrl and shipping her to me???
February 1, 2013 4:09 PM - MontroseMorris
No, but I did have some excess cats I was going to gift to you.
Edited at February 1, 2013 4:09 PM
February 1, 2013 4:10 PM - MontroseMorris
Bxgrl would not take kindly to that comment, either. You are in BIG TROUBLE.
February 1, 2013 4:12 PM - CGar
"You are in BIG TROUBLE."

So what else is new.
February 1, 2013 4:24 PM - Deleted
Is human poomist bad for fish? I am having second thoughts about keeping Jamie Lee's tank on top of the toilet tank now. My roommate came home and ran into the bathroom and took a dump. Is that bad for the fish? Im actually very good at controlling my own poomist, but I forgot that two other people poop here. (and possibly our dog walker as well). I don't want Jamie Lee to get poisoned. A glass cover came with her tank, but I don't use it. Should I put the glass cover next to the tank with a sign that asks people cover her tank with the glass when they going # 2?

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February 1, 2013 4:32 PM - Deleted
February 1, 2013 4:33 PM - bxgrl
Are you shipping me overnight, next day? Otherwise I'll have to pack a lunch in the crate, and a hot plate.
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February 1, 2013 4:36 PM - CGar
"This past summer I had the back kitchen window boarded up"

Perhaps if you hadn't boarded up the windows to keep MM out, she wouldn't be crating you and shipping you off to me in Brooklyn. Jussayin.
February 1, 2013 4:37 PM - CGar

Not feeling any better, Holmes?
February 1, 2013 4:37 PM - Partridge
WTF. Now I just got an offer to sub-let my current space. Good customer with very strong existing businesses. Clean, dry use...

Added $500 to what my LL wants and she said she "would jump at that."
February 1, 2013 4:41 PM - Deleted
Lol I was just flabbergasted by robs question.
February 1, 2013 4:42 PM - Deleted
Oh man LP is a hustla!!!
February 1, 2013 4:43 PM - pepper
LOL. This is turning out to be not a bad day for you, LP.... :o)
February 1, 2013 4:43 PM - dibs
Cold out here in Bucks since we arrive with the thermostats ratcheted down to 49. But, at least there's power
February 1, 2013 4:45 PM - bxgrl
True, ehubby. But I forgot to board up the front.
February 1, 2013 4:59 PM - MontroseMorris
MM eyes pneumatic nail gun purchased for Christmas and smiles. It is not a good smile. No, not a good smile at all. :)
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February 1, 2013 5:07 PM - dibs
In case any of you care, the Tacony-Palmyra Bridge is closed due to a fire on the bridge.
February 1, 2013 5:16 PM - Partridge
But how did the market close, Dave?
February 1, 2013 5:17 PM - ilovestoops
Free Brother all-in-one. Only used for faxing - never set up to use as wireless printer. Manuals and drivers for current operating systems available on-line. Paper tray gets stuck - must open back and hold a component that's keeping paper tray from coming out when adding paper. Here's the link:
e-mail ilovestoops at if interested
February 1, 2013 5:19 PM - ilovestoops
When all the experts say that the Dow isn't the best for indicating market status, do all news outlets always give the Dow rather than S & P 500 or some other index?
February 1, 2013 5:21 PM - Deleted
In case anyone is wondering, I'm still at work. Trying to get a million things done before my vcation next week.
February 1, 2013 5:24 PM - CGar
"before my vcation next week"

Titanic? Andrea Doria?? Poseidon???
February 1, 2013 5:26 PM - Deleted

Stop making wish lists!
February 1, 2013 5:35 PM - ilovestoops
Kelly, under Dinkins, was responsible for initiating the reduction in crime that continued with Bratton into the Giuliani years. Then when the press gave Bratton credit, Giuliani got rid of him because he was jealous - Rudy wanted all the credit. In theory, Guiliani would appeal to me since he was really non-partisan. One of the main problems, though, was that instead of doing what was right for the city, Rudy always wanted to do what was right for friends, or those he wanted to impress (e.g. West Side Stadium for Steinbrenner). the most serious example was when he got Bush to appoint Kerik as head of Homeland Security, when it was already known that Kerik was being investigated. And then the Bush admin didn't even check him out.
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February 1, 2013 5:45 PM - Arkady
rob - Why don't you just leave the cover on? (Although I don't think poomist is a problem. Bigger problems would be condensation from showers, aerosol products, etc.)
February 1, 2013 5:55 PM - petebklyn
I think this new job is doing wonders for Benson's sense of humor and levity.
February 1, 2013 6:00 PM - Deleted
It's a glass top that fits the tank perfectly. How will a betta get air? they dont use aerators so they need to get their air from coming up to the surface. With Dudley and Dinky in my bedroom, I have glass tops on theirs, but I keep it inch away from one side because the LED tank light sits on top of the glass. I guess I could leave Jamie Lee's lid slightly off as well.

You might be right about the shower. I was watching Dr. Oz earlier and they were talking about bathroom habits at the end of the show and some chick said she brushes her teeth in the shower and he said that is VERY bad because of all the bacteria in showerheads. He said you can soak the showerhead in vinegar to kill it though every few weeks, so I might start doing that when I clean the bathroom.

I could just bring Jamie Lee into my bedroom, but I think my roommate thought I was hoarding fish lol. At least with him/her in the bathroom she's a fish everyone can enjoy and not hoarded in my bedroom hahaha.

Jaime Lee also just does not seem right now matter what I do. Still havent seen her eat and i've tried pellets, flakes, and bloodworms. She hides in her Tokyo house, and will float around a bit, but seriously bore of a fish. I picked him (i keep calling her her) out because he was the prettiest. Dumb idea. He was probably a return.

What is up with all the 24/7 hour Koch news? Is there nothing else to talk about on the news?

February 1, 2013 6:06 PM - Arkady
There's a ton of air available even w/ the lid on & more goes in when you move the glass to feed. For my pond in the winter, the heater just opens up a 4 inch diameter hole in the ice for the exchange of noxious gases - the pond is roughly 3 feet in diameter.
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February 1, 2013 6:06 PM - Deleted
February 1, 2013 6:06 PM - ilovestoops
why would there be more bacteria in a shower head than in a sink faucet?
February 1, 2013 6:18 PM - Arkady
I assume it's because there's greater surface area - sink has mesh aerator, shower head has holes w/ lots of flat spaces that probably rarely dry out completely. People who live in areas w/ hard water sometimes have to take them off & brush away the buildup of minerals.
February 1, 2013 6:25 PM - DeLepp
White vinegar for the shower head on a Qtrly basis helps with the build up.
February 1, 2013 6:26 PM - ilovestoops
thanks, I had no idea they could get so gunked up.
February 1, 2013 6:30 PM - Deleted
I'm totally grossed out right now because I drink straight from the bathroom sink. I prefer bathroom sink water than kitchen tap water. Tastes better, but apparently it's full of nasty bacteria? gack. Strange considering im paranoid about poomist getting on my toothbrush, not sure why I thought drinking from the bathroom sink (from my hand cupped) was not grody.

Edited at February 1, 2013 6:30 PM
February 1, 2013 6:32 PM - petebklyn
yeah, must be tons of people getting sick every day from the shower heads. ---- bunch of neurotic germaphobes. Why not make like the Japanese and walk around with masks all day.
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February 1, 2013 6:52 PM - Deleted
Im not exactly a germaphobe, obviously since I have no problem drinking straight from faucets. I do however am extremely sensitive to poomist. It's awful at work, if I walk into the bathroom and someone is taking a dump I gag and get mad nausea and have to immediately run out of the bathroom and then go sit down on the couch in the break room for a few minutes so I don't throw up all over myself.

I don't know how people can take a shit knowing that someone can walk in at any moment. Just the thought of knowing that someone could walk in any minute and pooping in an unlocked bathroom would cause my sphincter to not open up.
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February 1, 2013 6:56 PM - Deleted
Same reason why I could never take it up the butt. Never understood HOW people relaxed in that kind of situation. Seems like one of those issues that you could spend years and years and thousands of dollars talking to a shrink about, but honestly I don't think it's really worth it. I don't like pooping when other people are around and I don't like taking it up the butt. I don't think there's anything really wrong with that; everyone has their little issues.

February 1, 2013 6:56 PM - Arkady
Bathroom sink faucets aren't any worse than kitchen sink faucets. It's the shower heads, not the taps.
Edited at February 1, 2013 6:56 PM
February 1, 2013 7:09 PM - RowerChick
Ahh... Finally have the big bad Wolfe at home. I forgot to tell him about Koch. Oops.
February 1, 2013 7:28 PM - Partridge
Dad's been sprung? Good news, chick.
February 1, 2013 7:58 PM - Deleted
February 1, 2013 8:07 PM - lechacal
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February 1, 2013 8:16 PM - Arkady
Why you curse so much:
Because you must say fuck you
Often as you can.
February 1, 2013 8:20 PM - lechacal
Incomplete haiku
February 1, 2013 8:21 PM - lechacal
Retracted. Didn't read whole message. Reader error, not poet error.
February 1, 2013 8:29 PM - Deleted
February 1, 2013 8:31 PM - Arkady
Hey, Lech!
February 1, 2013 8:33 PM - lechacal
Hey rkd.

Yo dirty.
February 1, 2013 8:39 PM - Arkady
How's trix?
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February 1, 2013 8:43 PM - ilovestoops
Hey, Lech, watcha been up to?
February 1, 2013 8:44 PM - lechacal
She's good. Stripping ain't easy you know.
Edited at February 1, 2013 8:44 PM
February 1, 2013 8:46 PM - lechacal
I've been up to my bald head in work. I am my job. It's not healthy. I make bad decisions to forget my job, then overwork to forget my bad decisions. You?
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February 1, 2013 9:00 PM - petebklyn
of course he shows up on day a squirrel imitator with machine gun is picture of the day.
February 1, 2013 9:03 PM - lechacal
Hi Pete. Haven't seen you in the subway for quite some time.
Edited at February 1, 2013 9:03 PM
February 1, 2013 9:17 PM - Deleted
Hey Lech. Hope all is well with you.

Regarding today's picture: I once went to a bar in Baltimore that had continuous videos of bikini-clad babes shooting off rounds from automatic weapons. Guns and jiggling boobs. What more could a guy want?
February 1, 2013 9:18 PM - petebklyn
who rides subways anymore.
February 1, 2013 9:19 PM - petebklyn
could want to be someplace other than baltimore
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February 1, 2013 9:25 PM - Deleted
There's a bar in the east village that shows midget and amputee porn all day every day
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February 1, 2013 9:30 PM - pepper
February 1, 2013 9:31 PM - Deleted
Double down saloon. Classy place.
February 1, 2013 9:33 PM - pepper
yeah, sounds like it. where exactly?
February 1, 2013 9:42 PM - Deleted
Ave A and btw 1st and Houston
February 1, 2013 9:53 PM - pepper
Thanks. Not that I am going to go, of course. I used to live on 12th st. btw 1st and 2nd aves in the EV; there was a gay bar on the corner of 12th and 2nd, that showed porn non-stop. sometimes old-timey porn, and not always gay. It may still, not sure. I found it more interesting than anything else....
February 1, 2013 9:57 PM - Deleted
Haha yeah - no big deal. I could do without it but whatevs
February 1, 2013 9:57 PM - lechacal
Who is this pepper person?
February 1, 2013 10:00 PM - pepper
I'm new. We've been introduced, but you were not interested at that time. Alcohol disinterest, perhaps. Couldn't say... Hi!
Edited at February 1, 2013 9:59 PM
February 1, 2013 10:04 PM - Deleted
Ya it's right across the street from nice guy eddies (which closed a couple months ago).
February 1, 2013 10:04 PM - pepper
Wait, dh, is that place right by nice guy eddie's? I used to hang out there all the time with my drummer boyfriend.... more than a decade ago, of course, so things change...

(I hung out at nice guy eddie's, not the other place....)
February 1, 2013 10:06 PM - pepper
oh, too bad about nge's. I have fond memories of that place.....
February 1, 2013 10:07 PM - ilovestoops
dh knows every bar in nyc!
February 1, 2013 10:09 PM - pepper
I think you are right stoops.... haha! Good to have him as a resource...
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February 1, 2013 10:10 PM - Partridge
Hello M. Chacal! For you mon petit choux...
February 1, 2013 10:15 PM - ilovestoops
I have a tech question. I heard that java should be removed as it can't be secured, but some sites require it. Do ya'll let java run?
Edited at February 1, 2013 10:15 PM
February 1, 2013 10:18 PM - ilovestoops
LP: I haven't been on the OT for a while but took a break today and caught up with today's posts. Interesting that someone wants your store so much. maybe there's going to be a change in the neighborhood that will make it even more desireable. anyway, sounds like you have some good choices and that everything will work out ok.
February 1, 2013 10:20 PM - Partridge
Yes, Stoops. Talk of a Gowanus Canal development bring in 4000 units or maybe I'm making that number up, but very big. I can't pay what he wants.
Edited at February 1, 2013 10:20 PM
February 1, 2013 10:31 PM - Partridge
Just paid a visit to a dear friend who is just out of the hospital from surgery. Hysterectomy. Lots of pain, lots of pain killers, nausea, caught a cold. Her mother will be caring for her for a few weeks. She is unable to get up without assistance. Unable to cook for herself or go up and down stairs. Trapped. Thank God for her mother!
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February 1, 2013 10:39 PM - Arkady
Tell her to get Culturelle! It really helped me when I had mine. Also tell her to truly take it easy - no lifting of anything over 8 lbs, making bed, even pushing a chair w/ her knee. Friend of mine had serious rupture doing something she thought was minimal.
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February 1, 2013 10:44 PM - Partridge
Thank you, I will.

Tell me, is Culterelle the answer to all problems Ark?
February 1, 2013 10:51 PM - Arkady
No, only ones involving gut & esp. antibiotics. Pedialyte is more a universal anodyne.
February 1, 2013 10:53 PM - pepper
Are you reeling from your action-packed day, LP?
February 1, 2013 10:55 PM - Partridge
Just so often prescribed. Thanks again for info. Forwarded already. She is hoping to be back at work in 3 to 4 weeks. Surgeons was able to preform laparoscopically. Cyst the size of a bowling ball she was told. Amazing!
February 1, 2013 10:56 PM - CGar
February 1, 2013 10:57 PM - pepper
And good thoughts for your friend. It's a difficult recovery from a hysterectomy. Good that she has constant help...
February 1, 2013 10:57 PM - ilovestoops
wow, I've become so used to hearing about the minimal types of surgery for so many things these days, that I forgot how incapacitating and painful a real surgery can be. hope your friend gets by ok. at least we have the internet these days so we can keep occupied with little movement.
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February 1, 2013 10:58 PM - Arkady
Good luck to her!
February 1, 2013 10:58 PM - Partridge
Yes, Pepper. Feeling like a retail mogul. happy my reputation is aiding me and happy I can work all sides to my advantage. Usually I feel like the overpaying, accepting schmuck.
February 1, 2013 11:00 PM - pepper
Stoops! I'm headed to Dallas next week. Won't ever think of Texas the same after meeting you. In a good way... Brownwood the week after next! Feb. 2013 is a very Texas month for me...
February 1, 2013 11:03 PM - Partridge
Texas, red hot chili pepper!
February 1, 2013 11:04 PM - pepper
Nice feeling. It was a good, if not action-packed day for you. So happy for you that things are developing in such a positive way. Really hope you can pull it all together and make it work. It all sounds great!
February 1, 2013 11:06 PM - ilovestoops
pepper: maybe it will be warmer there - have a good trip! You can fly into Love field if you take southwest from islip.
February 1, 2013 11:11 PM - pepper
No, it'll be EWR to DFW. It's for work, so no need to trek out to Islip... And I'm a United (formerly Continental) junkie. Based on the forecast I looked up today, it will be in the 60's. Looking forward to that!
Edited at February 1, 2013 11:11 PM
February 1, 2013 11:11 PM - Partridge
Thank you, Pepper. You are a peach! Have fun in the big D. Please post.

Ark, they expanded her abdomen with CO2 gas. Plenty of discomfort is doing so.
February 1, 2013 11:14 PM - pepper
And LP, it will be 4 days of steakhouses, I'm pretty sure, despite the presence of good TexMex in Tex.... Not that I mind all that much. Just saying...
February 1, 2013 11:18 PM - rf
Recovering from another long Long Island day, followed by cooking dinner for my grateful (really!) child. Happy to read the latest chapter of the possibly wandering shopkeeper.
February 1, 2013 11:21 PM - Partridge
Steak works. Steak is good. Eat steak . TexMex involves cilantro. I love it but some don't.
February 1, 2013 11:27 PM - Partridge
She is grateful today? Excellent! Just no talking about evolution or creation. How's her bf? They still hot for each other?

Hope dad and stepmom are under control.
February 1, 2013 11:28 PM - pepper
Yeah, I don't. Hate it actually, but I like Chipotle rice bowls, despite their stated presence of cilantro in the rice. I don't taste it there...
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February 1, 2013 11:29 PM - kazootite
Stoops! Yes, to removing Java. Stay tuned and I'll find you a link. May take a few minutes.

Edited at February 1, 2013 11:29 PM
February 1, 2013 11:37 PM - Partridge
Does anyone know if the damn groundhog saw his shadow or not? Six more weeks of winter or less?

Edited at February 1, 2013 11:37 PM
February 1, 2013 11:37 PM - kazootite
Stoops, since you asked:

"Security alert: Remove Java from your browsers"

"Java: More than the usual cup of coding coffee"

February 1, 2013 11:39 PM - kazootite
Stoops, I did a complete scan of my computer a few days ago and a "trojan" (nh), had come in (nh) through Java. I will have our tech. guy work on Java for us. I hope you are more of a techie than I am.
February 1, 2013 11:39 PM - rf
Dad ok but definitely looking frail. I have to go back on Monday. Stepmother napping while I was in the house. Dad and I had stuff to do. Daughter good but very busy, gala concert at Carnegie Hall on Feb. 11, a million hours of rehearsals before then. Her BF good.
Edited at February 1, 2013 11:39 PM
February 1, 2013 11:40 PM - rf
GH day tomorrow.
February 1, 2013 11:43 PM - rf
Hmmm, it seems to me that there is always 6+ weeks of winter left on Feb. 2.
February 1, 2013 11:45 PM - rf
And what do you think Lechacal thinks of the groundhog-shadow method of weather prediction?
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February 1, 2013 11:47 PM - rf
Well I guess I am talking to myself. Good night RF!
February 1, 2013 11:47 PM - kazootite
Good luck, LP, with your store.

Good luck, Rob, with your fish.

No time to post today. Best to everyone.
Funny groundhog potd, Dave. Is that an NRA groundhog?
Hi, RF. Goodnight all.

February 1, 2013 11:57 PM - Deleted
Good luck all of you, hope you make the best of what life is. thanks for the well wishes. WHat are your opinions about adult runaways? lol. I've been thinking about it lately. I mean, hells my grandmother wouldnt know the difference. Other than if she called me at work and stuff but I would just tell her to make sure to call me on my cell which can be used anyway. It's almost like you can be an adult runaway these days and get away with it!

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February 1, 2013 11:58 PM - ilovestoops
rf: I'm back - glad your kid is being nice again!
kazoo: removed java a while back but keep running across sites that need it. wondered if everyone had removed it or if folks are taking a chance with it.

pepper: 3 words: chicken fried steak - at Dunston's - omg now I want some!
February 2, 2013 12:00 AM - ilovestoops
rob: to run away: get one of those amtrack deals and just ride the train for months, going wherever you want - it would be perfect!
February 2, 2013 12:19 AM - Deleted
Stoops, that sounds like Boxcar Willy living! lol. I'm trying to avoid that hahaha. I like it here tho, so I will set put. I'm just itching all over for something else, it's hard to exlain. It won't come out of anything career wise, im driven in that sector of life, or family that's even more at the bottom of the barrel list. I'm an Aquarius, ultra. Freedom x 1000000 million, but I am afraid to break free, I have been for at least 15 years now.

The psychic part of my brain tells me to wait everything out (I think the psychic part of my brain is addicted to nicotine)

Edited at February 2, 2013 12:19 AM
February 2, 2013 12:28 AM - kazootite
"tells me to wait everything out"

Not a bad plan considering how the world is going.