TGIF OT
January 18, 2013 6:57 AM - dibs
Thank god it's Friday. Pete must have had a grueling week.

379 comments
January 18, 2013 7:10 AM - dibs
Ughhhh....I have nothing here for breakfast.
#1
January 18, 2013 7:33 AM - Arkady
No coffee!?!?
Great POTD!
Edited at January 18, 2013 7:33 AM
#2
January 18, 2013 7:41 AM - DeadCatBounce
Speaking of Pete, this article on Bloomberg will probably give him an orgasm...

"Top Earners Set to Pay Most Especially Married People
By Margaret Collins - Jan 17, 2013 12:00 AM ET

It pays to be single -- that is, when it comes to high earners’ tax bills.
U.S. taxpayers with income of more than $200,000 a year will see federal tax rates rise this year on wages
and investments. Tax increases will pinch married couples faster than individuals, especially if both spouses
work and have capital gains and dividend income, said Joseph Perry, partner- in-charge of tax and business
services at the accounting firm Marcum LLP."
#3
January 18, 2013 7:48 AM - dibs
Yes, have coffee.
Edited at January 18, 2013 7:57 AM
#4
January 18, 2013 7:48 AM - kazootite
Early risers!
#5
January 18, 2013 7:49 AM - dibs
...makes you healthy, wealthy and wise, Kazoo
#6
January 18, 2013 7:53 AM - dibs
I did feed the birds though
Edited at January 18, 2013 7:53 AM
#7
January 18, 2013 7:57 AM - Partridge
Snow!
#8
January 18, 2013 8:01 AM - kazootite
Good to know, Dave.

I think I have more than I can do today. Better get started.
Edited at January 18, 2013 8:01 AM
#9
January 18, 2013 8:05 AM - dibs
Found some cottage cheese in the fridge. "Best if used by 12/27/12" but it tastes fine
Edited at January 18, 2013 8:05 AM
#10
January 18, 2013 8:19 AM - dibs
WOW...Democrat James Galbraith, who is an economist, saying nothing wrong with putting xx into SS and Medicare and taking XXXX out because "the economy will be stronger when the money is taken out."


Edited at January 18, 2013 8:19 AM
#11
January 18, 2013 8:39 AM - dibs
Kido the cat, master of the shell game.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoXHVs65NFQ


#12
January 18, 2013 8:48 AM - CGar
Unfortunately, the snow is going to miss us and only make a glancing blow at NJ and Eastern LI.
#13
January 18, 2013 8:50 AM - dibs
None here in Bucks. I think Philly got a little that's long gone.
#14
January 18, 2013 8:55 AM - CGar
What are you doing in Bucks? Some hideous skirt convention you have to go to?
#15
January 18, 2013 8:55 AM - dibs
Lance Armstrong seems like some sort of narcissistic sociopath.
#16
January 18, 2013 8:56 AM - CGar
Speaking of Philly, did you see that horrible video of the guy beating that woman on a subway platform and then dragging her off the platform and onto the tracks???
#17
January 18, 2013 8:56 AM - dibs
Going shopping at some tragic Casual Corner.
#18
January 18, 2013 8:57 AM - CGar
And, speaking of beatings, did you see that horrible video of that 22 year old beaten to within an inch of his life on McDougal Street??? They're not sure if he's going to make it.
#19
January 18, 2013 8:57 AM - dibs
Yes, I did. They got him.
#20
January 18, 2013 8:58 AM - Slopefarm
On a much lighter note, anyone see this highly informative post in the forum over there? ------------>

http://forum.brownstoner.com/question/zYdcJ6xOpZc=/an-introduction
Edited at January 18, 2013 8:58 AM
#21
January 18, 2013 8:59 AM - CGar
I can't even listen to Lance Armstrong. I'm not at all surprised, but I still thing he's pond scum. The cover up is bad enough, but I can't get past how he set out to destroy everyone - including people close to him - who dared say that he used performance enhancing drugs (under oath, mind you, when they'd be subject to perjury charges if they lied for him).
#22
January 18, 2013 9:00 AM - CGar
Sloppy, funny, we have both James Taylor and Natalie Wood working at my firm.
#23
January 18, 2013 9:02 AM - dibs
More Jews in NY......

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/nyregion/reversing-past-trend-new-yorks-jewish-population-rises.html?adxnnl=1&ref=nyregion&adxnnlx=1358517719-+LQTvZn6thypxPs5d4KYdg


LOL..."There are as many Jews on the Upper West Side — 70,500 — as there are in all of Cleveland"
Edited at January 18, 2013 9:03 AM
#24
January 18, 2013 9:03 AM - Slopefarm
CGar,

William Saletan on Slate says the same thing: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2013/01/lance_armstrong_s_oprah_interview_his_threats_and_bullying_are_the_real.html

On another angle, it has been a terrible year for big, high profile private cancer foundations: first Komen, now Livestrong.
Edited at January 18, 2013 9:03 AM
#25
January 18, 2013 9:05 AM - Slopefarm
dibs = Fred Malek.
Edited at January 18, 2013 9:05 AM
#26
January 18, 2013 9:09 AM - petebklyn
bad PR moves by NRA and Whole Foods.
Even Christie trashes NRA ad featuring Obama's children. And doesn't Whole Foods guy know who his customers voted for?
#27
January 18, 2013 9:09 AM - Slopefarm
Dibs' comment over there in the James Taylor forum thread is priceless.
#28
January 18, 2013 9:09 AM - Donatella

I feel the same way about Lance Armstrong, CGar; can't even watch him on TV.

BTW, that white cat above reminds me of my Aldo. Gorgeous cat.
Edited at January 18, 2013 9:09 AM
#29
January 18, 2013 9:11 AM - CGar
Skippy, someone gave me a LiveStrong bracelet when my Mom died - back in the day, when that's all there was, before there were different colored bracelets for every cause imaginable - and it meant a lot to me that they did, and I know the charitable foundation does wonderful things, and I hope it survives for the sake of people with cancer, but all I want to do is toss the bracelet down the trash chute right now, because I feel like I need cleansing by a HazMat Team when I see snippets of Lance interviewed.
#30
January 18, 2013 9:11 AM - Donatella


dibs, re James Taylor.....

LOL hahaaaaa...
#31
January 18, 2013 9:12 AM - dibs
Just went out. I think I'm going to put my lined pants on
#32
January 18, 2013 9:12 AM - CGar
And your pathological hatred for bicyclists has nothing to do with, donatella???
#33
January 18, 2013 9:13 AM - dibs
What did the guy from Whole Foods say???
#34
January 18, 2013 9:13 AM - Arkady
Incontinence problems, dibs?
#35
January 18, 2013 9:14 AM - CGar
"LOL..."There are as many Jews on the Upper West Side — 70,500 — as there are in all of Cleveland"

Your people had their chance to get rid of us, but failed.
Edited at January 18, 2013 9:20 AM
#36
January 18, 2013 9:14 AM - petebklyn
kvetching about obama-care
#37
January 18, 2013 9:15 AM - dibs
Interesting commentary on the whole NRA thing...it seems that the lefts bashing of them has strengthened the NRA with more people supporting their position.
#38
January 18, 2013 9:15 AM - Arkady
Oy, CG!
#39
January 18, 2013 9:15 AM - Donatella

Lance Armstrong is missing a chip somewhere. But he has some serious balls. :-(
#40
January 18, 2013 9:17 AM - Donatella

ooooh, CGar, I didn't even make a connection with bicycles. Bicycles are wonderful, just not on the same roads as cars.
#41
January 18, 2013 9:17 AM - dibs
Well, I bet Obamacare is costing Whole Foods a lot more money. As it was, benefits at Whole Foods are extremely good.
#42
January 18, 2013 9:17 AM - Arkady
What media are you reading, dibs?"poll found that a majority of Americans — 54 percent — think gun control laws should be tightened, up markedly from a CBS News poll last April that found that only 39 percent backed stricter laws. "

Edited at January 18, 2013 9:17 AM
#43
January 18, 2013 9:17 AM - Slopefarm
"But he has some serious balls."

After all that doping, perhaps not.
#44
January 18, 2013 9:18 AM - Arkady
"After all that doping, perhaps not." Not to mention testicular cancer... Some irony, eh?
#45
January 18, 2013 9:19 AM - CGar
Pedro, I agree with you. The Whole Foods CEO was pretty foolish.

As for the NRA, they are in a parallel universe when gun owners are distancing themselves. One of my best friends upstate collects guns - only time I ever fired a gun was at his house - but he doesn't want, or see the need for individuals outside law enforcement and the military to have assault weapons and multiple round magazines. He also doesn't see why background checks and registries shouldn't be required.
#46
January 18, 2013 9:20 AM - Slopefarm
Arkady -- I think it is both true that more people are joining the NRA and that there has been a larger sea change in public opinion towards favoring tighter controls. I saw a poll that said a large majority of gun owners favor some of the proposed measures, like closing the gun show loophole and limiting ammo clips.
#47
January 18, 2013 9:20 AM - petebklyn
I wouldn't call Christie and Bloomberg part of the left.
#48
January 18, 2013 9:21 AM - dibs
Yes, that 54% number is right but that's not what I was pointing out.

What Sopey said.
Edited at January 18, 2013 9:21 AM
#49
January 18, 2013 9:21 AM - Slopefarm
Oh, and I might have introduced myself to JT as well over there.
#50
January 18, 2013 9:21 AM - petebklyn
anyone have an idea what those automatic weapons and ammo cost? They ones they are talking about restricting.
#51
January 18, 2013 9:22 AM - CGar
It's not like BAT is going to break down the door of dave's house and confiscate his musket.
Edited at January 18, 2013 9:22 AM
#52
January 18, 2013 9:22 AM - Arkady
Owning guns & being sensible about them aren't mutually exclusive ideas.
#53
January 18, 2013 9:23 AM - Donatella

I know this may sound shallow, but I have had now probably the 6th consecutive hair color travesty. I got a good haircut, was thrilled about it and then went to get my hair colored and now I have modified magic marker head. You might say, why not change hair colorists. I did that before (because I couldn't take listening to the woman's extreme leftist political rants for 1.5 hours) now I am considering biting the bullet and going back to her, just to solve this problem. New person is bad and multiple attempts to communicate have not worked.
#54
January 18, 2013 9:25 AM - Slopefarm
"What Sopey said"

Slopefarm, Slopey, Slopes, Sloppy, Skippy, Soupy, Sopey, Slappy . . . even my blog name's nicknames have nicknames (have I missed any?).
#55
January 18, 2013 9:25 AM - Arkady
Hair folly-cles.
#56
January 18, 2013 9:26 AM - CGar
It's possible that I posted in the Forum.
#57
January 18, 2013 9:26 AM - Arkady
Sloper.
#58
January 18, 2013 9:26 AM - Deleted
quote:
Tax increases will pinch married couples faster than individuals

GOOD! It's about time! Middle income single people are ALWAYS getting the shaft in this world.


Edited at January 18, 2013 9:26 AM
#59
January 18, 2013 9:27 AM - Slopefarm
"(because I couldn't take listening to the woman's extreme leftist political rants for 1.5 hours) now I am considering biting the bullet and going back to her"

You know you are just inviting the D word again, don't you?
#60
January 18, 2013 9:28 AM - CGar
Hey, I just noticed that beneath our names in the Forum over there >>> it also lists our locations. I've never seen that before. It says "cgar, COBBLE HILL, NY".
#61
January 18, 2013 9:32 AM - CGar
MM, FYI, it took 12 hours for my Walkabout comment to post. >>>
#62
January 18, 2013 9:37 AM - Donatella

Sigh, Slopey. But it is true. She is to the left of Chavez and I just.....COULDN'T.......TAKE......IT.......ANYMORE. But she really knew hair color.
Edited at January 18, 2013 9:37 AM
#63
January 18, 2013 9:42 AM - Slope4Eva
Dona, I feel for you (nh). Are you working with red colors? That seems to be the only color my daughter always wants and her stylist always talks her out of it. I picture you as having striking black hair.
#64
January 18, 2013 9:43 AM - Donatella
Actually my ability to listen to a political rant (from an angry person) is limited to 5 minutes or less. And I am definitely not going to pay for it as a captive with dye on my head.
Edited at January 18, 2013 9:43 AM
#65
January 18, 2013 9:47 AM - Donatella

Thanks for the sympathy, Eva, because it really affects how I feel. I woke up last night and was fretting about how I have to now go on a hair shampooing campaign to get rid of some of it. My natural hair color is very dark but it doesn't work for me now. What used to work was a reddish brown which looked good. The new person is young and she is a nice woman and seems intelligent but she just can't take what I say and give me that. I have these dark hair colors that look bad. I hate to go through this process with somebody else; maybe one more time. :-(
#66
January 18, 2013 9:49 AM - CGar
dave, it's disingenous of you to continue to list your location as Bed Stuy. >>>
#67
January 18, 2013 9:53 AM - petebklyn
propshark is going even more restricted. after jan21 only1 free search a lifetime instead of 1 a day.
My sleuthing will become more difficult.
#68
January 18, 2013 9:55 AM - CGar
Brooklyn Man Claims Police Beat Him and Used Anti-Gay Slurs . . . Doesn't say what neighborhood. He was "hosting a party whose guests included transsexuals and transvestites". I think it looks REALLY BAD for the police to have turned the surveillance camera away - which you can see from the video in the article - from them and around to face the wall just before the entered his lobby, where the beating took place. And he had to be treated at Kings County Hospital for a concussion and given stitches.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/nyregion/brooklyn-man-claims-police-beat-him-and-used-antigay-slurs.html?ref=nyregion&_r=0
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:10 AM
#69
January 18, 2013 9:58 AM - pepper
Oh no, Dona. And after finally being pleased about your cut. Diluted vinegar with a bit of shampoo will strip a lot of the color away. I can highly recommend my colorist, if you want, and don't mind a schlepp over to Brooklyn Heights. Marina at the Irene Dinov salon on Montague.
#70
January 18, 2013 10:08 AM - Donatella

Pepper, you are my hero(ine)!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am going to try that vinegar solution. I think I read reviews of hers on Yelp. There really is a skill and a TALENT to doing haircolor. Sometimes I wonder what that would be like as a job. It costs 16,000 to take a course at Paul Mitchell or Aveda.
#71
January 18, 2013 10:10 AM - Slopefarm
Bob Marvin showed up in the JT thread. Nice guy but didn't get the joke. I had to help him out.
#72
January 18, 2013 10:10 AM - DeadCatBounce
Mrs DCB has a colorist in the village she likes.
Will find out who if you want.

Edited at January 18, 2013 10:10 AM
#73
January 18, 2013 10:11 AM - DeadCatBounce
Bob Marvin IS a nice guy but also a bit of a one note samba.
#74
January 18, 2013 10:14 AM - CGar
WHAT THE FUCK??? I just posted a reply to Bob Marvin in that Forum post, and the entire post is now gone.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:14 AM
#75
January 18, 2013 10:16 AM - Slope4Eva
Maybe the OP felt you were all MOCKINGbird.
#76
January 18, 2013 10:16 AM - Slopefarm
HEY, MR. B:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOs4vsthLD0
#77
January 18, 2013 10:18 AM - CGar
Which he readily admits, DCB! In fact, he posted that to me in one of MM's threads a couple of weeks ago. He was very helpful to me last night and this morning when I asked for some recommendations in PLG.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:18 AM
#78
January 18, 2013 10:19 AM - CGar
Slopey, is the thread gone for you, too? Do you think that POS Jon deleted it because there were 5 posts which, heaven forfend, resembled an OT???
#79
January 18, 2013 10:21 AM - pepper
Happy to help, Dona. I overheard one colorist training another the last time I spent my 3 + hours at the salon. That's where I picked up the diluted vinegar tip...
#80
January 18, 2013 10:23 AM - petebklyn
it is okay for you to color your hair but lance armstrong can't take a few drugs
#81
January 18, 2013 10:24 AM - Slope4Eva
This may be common knowledge to all but me, ketchup takes the green out of your hair if swimming in a chlorinated pool.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:24 AM
#82
January 18, 2013 10:25 AM - Slope4Eva
Pete, that tidbit was not directed at you.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:25 AM
#83
January 18, 2013 10:25 AM - dibs
Just completed my DIY project for the weekend....new shelves and clothes bars in the MBR closet. It should now accomodate all my clothes that are in brooklyn should I have to make a run for it.
#84
January 18, 2013 10:25 AM - pepper
Nope, I did not know that, Eva. I will add that to my bag of tricks....
#85
January 18, 2013 10:26 AM - petebklyn
surely not
#86
January 18, 2013 10:27 AM - Slopefarm
Yes, the thread is gone (sorry, B.B.) for me, too. I checked before I posted the video link. It was a stupid forum post, but he did threaten at the time he killed the OT to delete hijacked threads. But today's was mild -- someone posts an inane comment and we respond in kind with completely G-rated attempts at humor.
#87
January 18, 2013 10:28 AM - dibs
I used to color my hair. I never took drugs.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:28 AM
#88
January 18, 2013 10:28 AM - CGar
"should I have to make a run for it."

LMFAO.
#89
January 18, 2013 10:29 AM - Slopefarm
Pete, if one could win 7 Tours de France just by coloring one's hair, I'd make mine neon orange!
#90
January 18, 2013 10:29 AM - Arkady
Can't believe Mr. B did that! What had Bob Marvin said?
#91
January 18, 2013 10:31 AM - CGar
Who or what is "B.B.", Slopey?

I don't know that the Forum post was inane, Slopey. I may be wrong (which is not unusual), but it seemed to me that there was a genuine newbie over there who was introducing himself to people, and we introduced ourselves back. Is there something wrong with doing so with humour?
#92
January 18, 2013 10:32 AM - CGar
Bob introduced himself and said something about not having lived in a 20th Century house for the past 43 years. It had nothing to do with Bob's post.
#93
January 18, 2013 10:33 AM - Slopefarm
LOL, arkady. Bob's the only one who played it straight (nh, obviously), and he posted about being compelled to purchase an 1899 house. I think the last post was probably mine, in which I asked Bob to tell us How Sweet It Is to own an 1899 house. So I guess it is my fault.

CGar, what were you going to post in response to Bob?
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:33 AM
#94
January 18, 2013 10:34 AM - Slopefarm
B.B. King -- one of his most famous songs is The Thread -- I mean The Thrill Is Gone.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:34 AM
#95
January 18, 2013 10:34 AM - Arkady
In addition to not having a funny bone in his body, Mr. B totally lacks an understanding of marketing.
#96
January 18, 2013 10:35 AM - CGar
Slopey, I was just thanking him again for the PLG information and recommendations that he emailed me last night and this morning for friends.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:35 AM
#97
January 18, 2013 10:35 AM - Arkady
Oh, and "bone(NH)".
#98
January 18, 2013 10:36 AM - Slopefarm
So it must be my fault the thread is gone.
#99
January 18, 2013 10:37 AM - CGar
Let's say James Taylor was genuine. Wouldn't it have been nice for him to see that there's a community that really does help each other? dave really did repair my DIY project last weekend. And Bob Marvin and I really did exchange emails last night and this morning with broker recommendations. What's wrong with those posts?
January 18, 2013 10:37 AM - Arkady
A fire truck pulled up across the street. I went over to find out what was going on so I could alert the owners who are at work. A couple of firemen but more City people who said they were ascertaining that the house has a proper C of O. Ever heard of that?
January 18, 2013 10:38 AM - CGar
Slopey, I think you'll find that most things are your fault.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:38 AM
January 18, 2013 10:39 AM - Arkady
Ironically, it's Internet Freedom Day.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:39 AM
January 18, 2013 10:39 AM - dibs
Never heard of that, Arkady. Is the DOB using the fire department as a wedge to get into buildings?????
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:39 AM
January 18, 2013 10:40 AM - Slopefarm
Nothing's wrong with those posts. At least five of us riffed on James Taylor songs. In Mr. B's Scrooge-like worldview, that constitutes a hijacking. He's never known how to draw a decent line. Either no rules and arbitrary responses, or overly constricted rules that suffocate the discussion.
January 18, 2013 10:41 AM - MontroseMorris
I tried to read what the fuss was about, and it was all gone! I know the what gave me mucho sh*t about defending Jon, but trust me, he personally didn't take anything down. He has minions for that.
January 18, 2013 10:42 AM - CGar
"I went over to find out what was going on"

Who are you, Gladys Kravitz???
January 18, 2013 10:43 AM - Arkady
No idea, dibs. Owner said the same thing had happened a few years ago. I told the officials that the owner lives there w/ husband & 2 kids & rents out bottom floor & they went away - C of O is for 2 family.
January 18, 2013 10:44 AM - dibs
Gladys Kravitz?


LOL
January 18, 2013 10:44 AM - CGar
"I went over to find out what was going on"

Who are you, Gladys Kravitz???


Edited at January 18, 2013 10:44 AM
January 18, 2013 10:44 AM - Slopefarm
Minyons? None of those cats look Jewish, MM.
January 18, 2013 10:45 AM - Arkady
My boys alerted me to the fire truck - the noise always gets them riled. House has a gorgeous front door - didn't want it axed by firemen if it were a fire.
January 18, 2013 10:46 AM - Arkady
There aren't enough for a minyan.
January 18, 2013 10:46 AM - CGar
"He has minions for that."

MM, I assumed that as well, but the marching orders are his.

Did you get my email and see my post? No snark. Actual comments, questions and invitations for you.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:46 AM
January 18, 2013 10:48 AM - MontroseMorris
I know you're not talking to me, Penguin Boy, because I never said " I went over to find out what's going on."

Not those "minyans". OY!
January 18, 2013 10:50 AM - CGar
Yes, Slopey, I agree with your 10:40 post 100%. His uptight, humourless manner of running what is, admittedly, his site to run into the ground, is reflected in the posts that usually have 0 comments.

The only one I feel bad for is MM, whose columns are so wonderful, even when she plathers, that they are deserving of a much better platform and a much wider audience, like the New York Times. It's unfortunate that he destroyed the site with disqus and stifled discussion.
January 18, 2013 10:51 AM - MontroseMorris
Yes, I saw your email. See reply there.
January 18, 2013 10:51 AM - Arkady
I know you said you were ignorant of Jewish rites when you were growing up, MM. Those minyaners should be wearing hats!
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:51 AM
January 18, 2013 10:52 AM - MontroseMorris
Plathers???????????????
January 18, 2013 10:53 AM - MontroseMorris
"I know you said you were ignorant of Jewish rites when you were growing up, MM. Those minyaners should be wearing hats!"

Fedoras or yamulkes?
January 18, 2013 10:54 AM - Arkady
Probably yarmulkes given the blue outfits.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:54 AM
January 18, 2013 10:56 AM - CGar
"I know you're not talking to me, Penguin Boy, because I never said " I went over to find out what's going on."

MM, WTF are you talking about??? Did you READ your 10:41 post when you wrote it???

"I tried to read what the fuss was about, and it was all gone! I know the what gave me mucho sh*t about defending Jon, but trust me, he personally didn't take anything down. He has minions for that."


Edited at January 18, 2013 10:56 AM
January 18, 2013 11:01 AM - CGar
Occasionally you plather. Doesn't mean I love your articles any less. Every once in a while, MM, it's like talking to President Bartlett on The West Wing . . .

"BARTLET: Were we talking about something?

C.J. CREGG: I don't know, sir. When I came in here, back in the late '50s, there was a purpose to it, but then one thing led to another and I blacked out. I mean, I can hang in there with the best of them, sir, but somewhere during the discussion of anise and coriander and the other 15 spices you like to use to baste a turkey, I simply lost consciousness."
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:02 AM
January 18, 2013 11:04 AM - Slopefarm
I agree CGar. I enjoy MM's columns (ESPECIALLY when she plathers!!!) but there is no culture of discussion over there and MM's columns deserve more discussion than they get. Of course, I would join the discussion except disqus won't let me. I can only post in the forum, now.
January 18, 2013 11:04 AM - MontroseMorris
"I tried to read what the fuss....", and "I went over to find out...." are different. The first is NOT Gladys Kravitz worthy.
January 18, 2013 11:05 AM - Arkady
It's not plathering, it's contextualizing.
January 18, 2013 11:07 AM - MontroseMorris
I'm sorry you have ADD, Penguin Boy. There is a lot of that here.
January 18, 2013 11:08 AM - CGar
MM . . . ARKADY at 10:37: "A fire truck pulled up across the street. I went over to find out what was going on . . . " Arkady, not you, is Gladys Kravitz . . .
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:08 AM
January 18, 2013 11:08 AM - CGar
^^^And since Arkady has yet to discover Talkies, we're guessing she has no clue whom Gladys Kravitz is.
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:08 AM
January 18, 2013 11:09 AM - CGar
"It's not plathering, it's contextualizing."

Arkady, can you really afford to alienate any more people???
January 18, 2013 11:09 AM - Arkady
You're right about that at least, CG.
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:09 AM
January 18, 2013 11:09 AM - MontroseMorris
Slopey, I just tuck my head in, write, and send in my invoices. I wish there was much more discussion. Sometimes I feel I send my stuff out into the great ether. But Cate tells me a lot of people read, they just don't comment, for whatever reason. I get re-blogged all over the place, too.
January 18, 2013 11:10 AM - DeadCatBounce
Slopey's neon hair comment gets the rarely awarded QOTD
January 18, 2013 11:11 AM - CGar
"I can only post in the forum, now."

And just look where that's gotten us, Skippy.

(Is it apparent that I'm exhausted today and don't feel like doing any work?)
January 18, 2013 11:11 AM - MontroseMorris
Oops, never mind.
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:11 AM
January 18, 2013 11:11 AM - Arkady
More is best, CG!
January 18, 2013 11:12 AM - CGar
Am I the only one who thinks that Endora looks like dave in drag?
January 18, 2013 11:14 AM - CGar
"Oops, never mind."

LMFAO, MM. I so love when you're human like the rest of us. Just for that, this is whom I'd post were I posting a TV picture of you . . .
January 18, 2013 11:14 AM - Arkady
Yes.
January 18, 2013 11:14 AM - MontroseMorris
On top of everything else, she has no shoulders.
January 18, 2013 11:15 AM - CGar
"they just don't comment, for whatever reason."

Whatever reason? What part of "disqus sucks" and some of us can't read and post comments over there did you miss???
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:15 AM
January 18, 2013 11:17 AM - CGar
That tongue sticking out (nh) is classic dave.
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:17 AM
January 18, 2013 11:17 AM - Slopefarm
"(Is it apparent that I'm exhausted today and don't feel like doing any work?)"

I'm too tired to tell. Last night we got a glimpse of what i suspect will be the new normal when farmhand goes to HS next year. A friend of hers came over so they could work on two projects due in school today. The friend stayed until about 12:30 and farmhand would not go to sleep until about 1 because she felt the projects needed a bit more work. It fell to me to keep pushing them to finish their projects faster and to make sure the friend got home safely.

Edited at January 18, 2013 11:17 AM
January 18, 2013 11:17 AM - MontroseMorris
Yeah, I get that. Disgust really sucks.
January 18, 2013 11:18 AM - sixyearsandcounting
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/li_crash_liar_klyn_lifestyle_made_CKEovYraeWuzohFz0AjRXN

Too bad Die Hipster isn't around to comment on this.
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:18 AM
January 18, 2013 11:19 AM - CGar
"You're right about that at least, CG."

"Gladys Kravitz is a fictional character on the American situation comedy Bewitched (1964-1972). Portrayed by Alice Pearce from the show's premiere in 1964 until Pearce's death in 1966 and then by Sandra Gould from 1966 until her last appearance in 1971, Gladys Kravitz is an across-the-street neighbor of the program's protagonists, Darrin Stephens (played by Dick York from 1964 to 1969 and Dick Sargent from 1969 until 1972) and his wife, witch Samantha Stephens (Elizabeth Montgomery). Although a relatively minor character on Bewitched, the role was memorable enough that the term "Gladys Kravitz" entered the American lexicon, and is even today used as a synonym for a nosy neighbor or colleague"

Since it's in the American lexicon, Moron, I'd think you'd need it for one of your crossword puzzles. Do try and learn a new trick once in a while.
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:19 AM
January 18, 2013 11:23 AM - Slopefarm
Gladys Kravitz is never a crossword answer. Too many uncommon letters makes both first and last name difficult to work into a puzzle.
January 18, 2013 11:24 AM - dibs
"Am I the only one who thinks that Endora looks like dave in drag?"

Whatever, Mr Stubbs.
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:24 AM
January 18, 2013 11:25 AM - dibs
OK...I'm off....running a few errands and then back to Philly to pick up M and the cats
January 18, 2013 11:26 AM - Partridge
"they just don't comment, for whatever reason."

Take it as a compliment. It means your writing is thoroughly researched and leaves the reader satisfied. That is why the most common comments are along the lines of, "Great story! Thanks for bringing it to us." A thank you is all that is left to say.
January 18, 2013 11:26 AM - CGar
Your mother was beautiful, MM, and what a great pose and picture.
January 18, 2013 11:29 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Great pic of your mom, MM! You were re-blogged by Ditmas Park Corner a few days ago.
January 18, 2013 11:29 AM - DeadCatBounce
Elizabet Montgomery was a heart throb.
January 18, 2013 11:30 AM - Slopefarm
LP. there'd be a lot more discussion if everyone who wanted to comment (and seriously, I might add) was able to do so. Lots of long time readers and MM fans cannot post from work because of the software over there.
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:30 AM
January 18, 2013 11:32 AM - MontroseMorris
Thanks, Part, CGar and Six. I saw the Ditmas reblog.
January 18, 2013 11:34 AM - MontroseMorris
Since I am certainly not privy to such things, I wonder if there was some kind of cost benefit analysis done, as to worth of comments, number of readers, etc, and advertisers. Because at some point, it was decided that a declined readership was ok.
January 18, 2013 11:41 AM - Partridge
Yes, Slopey, but those that can comment on other posts, don't do so on hers. MM's posts are not intended to be interactive as many of the baited posts are. "So what do you think?" Is never at the end of one of her posts. Most of her columns are factual, researched, and historical. Hard to get into a good argument with those parameters.
January 18, 2013 11:43 AM - CGar
Soupy, unfortunately, I used to keep the Farmhand's hours at that age doing school projects, so "gird your loins".
January 18, 2013 11:47 AM - Slopefarm
LP, if the site were to remain what it used to be, a communal space for freewheelijng discussion, there were lots of people into brooklyn history, architecture, neighborhoods, etc. who would -- as they used to -- use MM's columns as a springboard for some very interesting discussions. This is not a knock on MM -- rather, a compliment that so many of us like her columns and want to talk about interesting topics they raise. I'm just saying the lack of comments NOW, as opposed to THEN, doesn't mean the columns are so good there is nothing to say. It just means a lot of her fans can't comment. There is no longer a critical mass over there for interesting discussion due to the 1-2 punch of disqus and the end of the OT.
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:49 AM
January 18, 2013 11:47 AM - CGar
MM, I got your email, but fyi, your post in reply to my post is still not posted. Perhaps in 12 hours.
January 18, 2013 11:47 AM - DeadCatBounce
"Because at some point, it was decided that a declined readership was ok."
That is what I thought.
And happy to oblige.
January 18, 2013 11:48 AM - DeadCatBounce
But I do read your articles, MM.
January 18, 2013 11:48 AM - Slopefarm
"Soupy, unfortunately, I used to keep the Farmhand's hours at that age doing school projects, so "gird your loins"."

Yes -- eventually, she and her friends will be self-sufficient enough that I can go to sleep when they are up late with a homework project. Transition phase for now.

January 18, 2013 11:51 AM - rf
Depends on if they are modern orthodox, or which Hassidic sect. Likely yarmulkas under the fedoras.
January 18, 2013 11:53 AM - Partridge
Remember that Brownstoner post (early last summer, I think) where an out-of-town reader asked for help identifying the location a photograph? It just contained an image of a boy on a stoop. Well, the post went on fire and continued over several days. I thought that the heat of that post would have spurred some sort of mystery solving regular series of photos/posts. MM, interested in another column?
Edited at January 18, 2013 11:53 AM
January 18, 2013 11:54 AM - CGar
"There is no longer a critical mass over there for interesting discussion due to the 1-2 punch of disqus and the end of the OT."

Skipper, I said the same thing in the last line of my 10:50 post and with fewer words. But, I do agree with everything you posted at 11:47.
January 18, 2013 11:55 AM - Slope4Eva
Slopey stays up with his 13 year old.... understood. RF, do you wait up for your 16/17 year old? I used to always wait up for my 19 year old (except when she was in a serious relationship... story for another day) now I just don't have the energy to do it. Not sure when it stops.
January 18, 2013 11:56 AM - Slopefarm
"Skipper, I said the same thing in the last line of my 10:50 post and with fewer words. But, I do agree with everything you posted at 11:47."

Gee, thanks, little buddy.

[Don't get mad at me; you gave me an obvious set up.]


Edited at January 18, 2013 11:58 AM
January 18, 2013 11:58 AM - Slopefarm
"Not sure when it stops."

Me neither. If my mother leaves a voicemail, when I call her back the first thing she says is "where were you?" But of course, she's Jewish.
January 18, 2013 11:59 AM - MontroseMorris
I guess it depends on what one has a blog for. Getting away from Brownstoner for a minute, I read several other sites daily, which cover a multitude of topics and interests. Some I've been reading for years, and have never felt a need to comment, and neither has anyone else, this site rarely gets any comments at all. Yet, it remains interesting, topical, and quite good.

Other sites have comments that are cheerleading, all of the comments, which I usually don't even read, are always complimentary only, peppered only with questions as to where the writer got something, or to ask for help in a similar situation. These are generally "girly" decorating sites, some better than others.

Then you've got sites like Huffpost, which live on comments.

Everyone is making money. I guess it's just different strokes, and all.
January 18, 2013 12:00 PM - Arkady
I always feel like a hypocrite when I recommend to teens that they start projects in a timely fashion. For myself, I need the deadline panic to do a good job. I tried once to do a little bit a day way ahead of time on a script & 3 days before it was due I trashed the entire thing & started over.
Edited at January 18, 2013 12:00 PM
January 18, 2013 12:00 PM - Partridge
Totally agree and understand, Slopey. Comment delays and reload times are ridiculous and very unfriendly to commenting. Is it also to say that current regular poster from here and there (DIBS, Pete, DH) are not "into brooklyn history, architecture, neighborhoods"?
January 18, 2013 12:01 PM - Slope4Eva
Mothers are great!!! I still get, "hold on going down the stairs" at my parents' house.

My Mom is back in the hospital. She had another attack (diverticulitus) yesterday. Waiting to hear if they are going to operate. She's had 3 attacks in the last month.
January 18, 2013 12:04 PM - Slopefarm
"Is it also to say that current regular poster from here and there (DIBS, Pete, DH) are not "into brooklyn history, architecture, neighborhoods"?"

The issue is critical mass for wide-ranging discussion. Lots of people gone from commenting now.
January 18, 2013 12:05 PM - rf
Wait a minute. Dave, you used to dye your hair? Back to the color of the famous wild-and-crazy-guy photo?
January 18, 2013 12:05 PM - Partridge
Sorry to hear, Eva. Wishing her well!
January 18, 2013 12:07 PM - rf
Daughter has taken to drinking a very small cup of coffee in the morning when she has to stay up too late for a school project. But she says she doesn't want to become an addict (like me of course).

Eva, if she comes home late, the chances are very strong that I pick her up. No drivers in her crowd. So yes, I stay up.
January 18, 2013 12:09 PM - rf
But I go to sleep before she does sometimes (when we're both home).
January 18, 2013 12:12 PM - Slope4Eva
Oh, I'm always asleep first if she's home, lol. I still prefer to pick her up at night.
January 18, 2013 12:14 PM - Slopefarm
Yes, staying up late when kid is out is mandatory. Going to sleep when kid is up late doing homework is possible, sometimes. But I think I have to stay up late when kid is up late with a friend doing homework because of responsibility to the friend's parents and to getting friend home safely. At some point, I imagine they will be old enough to call car services for themselves -- right now I want to know which car service they are using and when the friend gets into the car, so no parent-free gap in the nighttime transportation logistics yet.
January 18, 2013 12:17 PM - Slopefarm
"Is it also to say that current regular poster from here and there (DIBS, Pete, DH) are not "into brooklyn history, architecture, neighborhoods"?"

They are indeed very much interested in those things. They've just run out of people to talk to over there about those things so when they do comment on an MM thread, there's not much discussion generated.
Edited at January 18, 2013 12:17 PM
January 18, 2013 12:19 PM - Arkady
dibs certainly used to be one of the 'mavens' on the Forum w/ a wealth of knowledge. His interest in history is evident in many of his posts.
January 18, 2013 12:20 PM - Slope4Eva
Absolutely, at that age Slopey, I agree.
January 18, 2013 12:24 PM - CGar
Eva, I remember well your stories of when Evita would be out late. Hope your Mom is okay and doesn't need surgery.
Edited at January 18, 2013 12:24 PM
January 18, 2013 12:25 PM - Slope4Eva
I just used the word "mount" in an E:Mail to my sister, and, caught myself putting a (nh). Dang you people!!! Mount was in reference to a decorating issue.
January 18, 2013 12:27 PM - Slope4Eva
Thanks, CGar. She is actually hoping to have the surgery. If the intestine ruptures, they already said she'd need to wear a bag for the rest of her life. She's terrified of that happening.
January 18, 2013 12:27 PM - CGar
"Mount was in reference to a decorating issue."

If you say so.
January 18, 2013 12:28 PM - CGar
Okay, thanks again for another vasovagal reaction, Eva.
January 18, 2013 12:29 PM - MontroseMorris
"For myself, I need the deadline panic to do a good job."

Unfortunately, I've always been like that, starting in college. It used to drive my roommates crazy, as I could start a paper the night before it was due, and it was better than theirs, and they had started a week before.
January 18, 2013 12:31 PM - CGar
"For myself, I need the deadline panic to do a good job."

"Unfortunately, I've always been like that, starting in college. It used to drive my roommates crazy, as I could start a paper the night before it was due, and it was better than theirs, and they had started a week before."

Funny, I am exactly like Arkady and MM . . . well, in that way, not with the whole crazy cat thing. MM, I'd add that I could sit with a stack of 15 books the night before an exam, which I was supposed to have read all semester, cram the night before, pull and all nighter, and still get a better grade than my roommates, which drove them crazy.
January 18, 2013 12:32 PM - Slope4Eva
Sex, believe it or not, is a topic my sibs and I rarely discuss. The 15 year age difference nipped that in the bud a long time ago.
Edited at January 18, 2013 12:32 PM
January 18, 2013 12:35 PM - rf
Smart MM and CGar? Or stupid roommates?
January 18, 2013 12:37 PM - Slopefarm
On another topic, we were discussing the Ramones the other day. Well check this out:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/01/18/compressorhead_covers_blitzkreig_bop_and_more_great_robot_videos.html
January 18, 2013 12:45 PM - Arkady
My worst was a paper on the Fable of the Bees by Mandeville. "Fable" - you think 2 or 3 pages max, right? Went to the libe 4 days before the paper was due & it was 2 thick books - Oxford Press, onion-skin paper w/ pages of footnotes in tiny print & in Greek, Latin & German! Read one book the first night, 2nd book the next (& the fable itself was 2 pages) & wrote the paper the third night. Was so out of it that I typed the 2nd page w/ my fingers one key off. Teacher very nicely recognized what I'd done & let me re-type it. No grades at Sarah Lawrence so no A.
January 18, 2013 12:50 PM - Arkady
Cold caller should NOT start their chats w/ "Good morning & god bless you." Especially at 12:50 p.m.
January 18, 2013 12:52 PM - CGar
How about: "Good afternoon & I hope you rot in hell"?
January 18, 2013 12:53 PM - Arkady
Preferable.
January 18, 2013 12:54 PM - Donatella

I suffer with writing projects. I'm ok and the results are usually good but the process is anything but logical. Eventually I find a structure and it falls into place but usually under the gun. That is a funny story Arkady. It is impressive because it means you were on such a roll that you didn't edit yourself as you went along.
January 18, 2013 1:02 PM - Arkady
Never thought of that, Dona, but you're right. Pretty much still true today too.
Edited at January 18, 2013 1:02 PM
January 18, 2013 1:02 PM - Donatella

NYU downtown doesn't use email. You have to fax stuff. I don't have a fax. So I have to try to get someone to take my new insurance info over the phone. I also needed to get some test results and they do have an online patient service where you can get it. I asked for instructions on how to sign up. They wanted me to come in! "No, email it to me" but no email. So the woman sighed and finally read to me over the phone the site address and the code to enter. Knock yourself out.
January 18, 2013 1:06 PM - petebklyn
suffer from writing projects, suffer from frizzy hair, suffer from houseguests, suffer from squirrels, falling trees, colorists. You name it she suffers.
January 18, 2013 1:08 PM - Slopefarm
As opposed to the rest of us, who merely suffer fools gladly.
January 18, 2013 1:08 PM - kazootite
Women suffer, Pete. Suffrage.

Impressive story about your paper, Arkady.
January 18, 2013 1:09 PM - rf
NYU Downtown doesn't use email??? Maybe they want to become part of SUNY Downstate:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/nyregion/audit-finds-suny-downstate-in-dire-fiscal-straits.html?
January 18, 2013 1:10 PM - rf
oops, dupe. But wtf??? Or maybe they just don't trust Donatella with their email address?
January 18, 2013 1:11 PM - rf
No time to prooofread, eh, Arkady?
January 18, 2013 1:11 PM - CGar
Funny, Old Man.
January 18, 2013 1:18 PM - Arkady
I never thought about proofing until I got paid to edit.
January 18, 2013 1:19 PM - Arkady
Gladly, Slopey?
January 18, 2013 1:22 PM - Slopefarm
"Gladly, Slopey?"

We're here on our own volition, aren't we?

Edited at January 18, 2013 1:22 PM
January 18, 2013 1:27 PM - Donatella

Yes, Pete. I do suffer and I offer it up for your sins.
January 18, 2013 1:33 PM - Donatella
rf, I like NYU Downtown, but I think like many hospitals and health care facilities they are 20 years behind the time re technology. Who ever heard of not using email? It is an advance now that they have patient records on line, but they have a long way to go.
January 18, 2013 1:33 PM - Arkady
...the cross-eyed bear.
Edited at January 18, 2013 1:33 PM
January 18, 2013 1:35 PM - Slopefarm
"...the cross-eyed bear."

Being Jewish, I stay shunned of the cross.

January 18, 2013 1:35 PM - kazootite
Pete, about the metroNorth train up the Hudson you mentioned-
Do you know how far north it goes?
January 18, 2013 1:39 PM - petebklyn
metro north hudson line goes to poughkeepsie..but amtrak goes further north along same route
January 18, 2013 1:43 PM - kazootite
Okay, Pete, I looked it up. Thanks. Could go to Poughkeepsie, then Amtrak perhaps.
January 18, 2013 1:44 PM - Arkady
How rood of you, Slopey.
Edited at January 18, 2013 1:44 PM
January 18, 2013 1:44 PM - DeadCatBounce
Just did a DIY home project - Fixing a kitchen cabinet.
One of The cabinet door hinges pulled out of the cabinet, leaving an oversized hole where the screw had been.

Hammered toothpicks into the hole, and broke them off flush with the cabinet. Drove a new screw into the toothpick filled hole.

Then made sure all the other hinges were screwed in tight.

Works perfectly.

January 18, 2013 1:47 PM - Slopefarm
But i will sell you indulgences, arkady. My fee: a dollar or so.
January 18, 2013 1:47 PM - rf
Headline of the year:
Sources: Cross-dressing meth priest liked sex in rectory
Read more: http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Sources-Cross-dressing-meth-priest-liked-sex-in-4203841.php#ixzz2IM1kEzaE

Source: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/01/best-headline-ever-priest-rectory-connecticut.html
January 18, 2013 1:48 PM - petebklyn
If wanting to go further north than P'keepsie one takes Amtrak from PennStation. Not even sure if they are allowed to sell ticket to Poughkeepsie.
Any stop on hudson up and including Poughkeepsie -- MetroNorth from GrandCentral.
January 18, 2013 1:50 PM - petebklyn
don't quit your day job, dcb.
January 18, 2013 1:55 PM - Arkady
I'd've added some Elmer's to it, DCB, to anchor the toothpicks.
January 18, 2013 1:56 PM - Arkady
Can I put it on my Via card, Slopey?
January 18, 2013 2:04 PM - Slopefarm
Yes, lots of room for more charges on your Via card. Pilate on.
January 18, 2013 2:05 PM - petebklyn
there yoga again.
January 18, 2013 2:07 PM - kazootite
Thank you, Pete.
January 18, 2013 2:08 PM - kazootite
Er, did I get caught in the crosswinds of a punfest?
January 18, 2013 2:09 PM - Slopefarm
Pete's trying to Hindu our New Testament punfest, arkady.
January 18, 2013 2:10 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Some of you are making Colossians mistakes.

Of course that's not a Revelation to me.
January 18, 2013 2:12 PM - Slopefarm
Hey, 6, STFU. Or should I say, beat it, dude.
January 18, 2013 2:14 PM - Slopefarm
Anyway, have a great weekend, all.
Edited at January 18, 2013 2:14 PM
January 18, 2013 2:26 PM - dibs
Cats had their first ride in the B from Philly to here. they were very well behaved. Many of you should be that well behaved.
January 18, 2013 2:27 PM - dibs
10.9 million people receive SS Disability, up 80% from 10 years ago.
January 18, 2013 2:31 PM - MontroseMorris
You can take Amtrak to Poughkeepsie. At least on the NYC to Albany trains. The stops from Penn Station are Yonkers, Croton-Harmon, Rhinebeck, Poughkeepsie, Hudson, Renssalaer/Albany. I may have forgotten one in the middle there. Too lazy to look up. Highly recommended for the beauty of the Hudson alone. The trip takes about 2 1/2 hours, and flies by.

Rh, my roommates in college were smart. Both are doctors now. But I was always a better writer. One, who went to Bronx Science HS, had abysmally poor writing skills. She never realized it until she started taking English classes in college, and they killed her for her sentence structure.
January 18, 2013 2:36 PM - DeadCatBounce
What year at Bx Sci MM?
(My Alma Mater)
January 18, 2013 2:36 PM - Arkady
What is truth, Slopes?
January 18, 2013 2:38 PM - rf
MM, I was KIDDING! (I know you knew that!)
Edited at January 18, 2013 2:38 PM
January 18, 2013 2:39 PM - rf
Not like CGar, for whom I have to explain the joke, every time. (jkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjk)
Edited at January 18, 2013 2:39 PM
January 18, 2013 2:40 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"beat it, dude."

Definitely requires a NH.
January 18, 2013 2:41 PM - rf
MM, I think the question was whether you could take MetroNorth to Poughkeepsie and then Amtrak from Poughkeepsie further north. Probably save some bucks! Leave from Grand Central which is a landmark unlike hideous Penn Station. But many stops more.
Edited at January 18, 2013 2:41 PM
January 18, 2013 2:41 PM - MontroseMorris
1973, DCB. Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
January 18, 2013 2:42 PM - Arkady
You'd think that Poughkeepsie residents would be permitted to travel Amtrak going north.
January 18, 2013 2:43 PM - MontroseMorris
Hmmm, don't know. They are on the same tracks, so may be possible.
January 18, 2013 2:46 PM - dibs
Not necessarily, rf. The ticket from Philly to Stamford is cheaper than the ticket from Philly to NYC on some trains
Edited at January 18, 2013 2:46 PM
January 18, 2013 2:49 PM - DeadCatBounce
"Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth."

Good chance I knew her.
'74.
January 18, 2013 2:49 PM - dibs
But yeah, Metro North will likely be cheaper than Amtrak
January 18, 2013 2:51 PM - Arkady
"1973, DCB. Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth."
Guess that makes me a planaria or paramecium.
Edited at January 18, 2013 2:52 PM
January 18, 2013 2:56 PM - DeadCatBounce
Planaria are not extinct.
Perhaps a lobe-finned fish.
January 18, 2013 3:00 PM - DeadCatBounce
Whoops. Lobe finned fish are not extinct either
January 18, 2013 3:01 PM - dibs
I think she's in the primordial soup.
Edited at January 18, 2013 3:01 PM
January 18, 2013 3:07 PM - DeadCatBounce
Don't remember her, but bet I would have recognized her in the cafeteria.
Edited at January 18, 2013 3:07 PM
January 18, 2013 3:25 PM - petebklyn
Bronx Science has some sort of alumni website -- where they have names of all found and missing grads.
It came up few weeks ago when I did google search for someone went to college with me. She was one of the 'missing' but found her info eventually - living outside philly.
Edited at January 18, 2013 3:25 PM
January 18, 2013 3:26 PM - MontroseMorris
I'll scare up an old picture from when we were in college, and post it, DCB.
January 18, 2013 3:27 PM - petebklyn
I really don't think one would save more than couple dollars (depending on time of day) if took metronorth to pkeepsie than amtrak from there further north.
What I was unclear about was whether you could travel between Pkeepsie and NYC on Amtrak. Seems now you can but was time they would not sell those tickets. You had to be traveling beyond Pkeepsie.
January 18, 2013 3:28 PM - petebklyn
Dibs --great timing with your INTC gift to your jewish boyfriend. :)
January 18, 2013 3:31 PM - MontroseMorris
Pete, I think now they are just happy to have the ticket paying bodies on board.
Edited at January 18, 2013 3:31 PM
January 18, 2013 3:32 PM - dibs
Buying more today for him.
January 18, 2013 3:32 PM - kazootite
Thank you for all the train advice. How does one get to Woodstock by train? I don't think it is easy.
Edited at January 18, 2013 3:32 PM
January 18, 2013 3:35 PM - kazootite
"Cats had their first ride... they were very well behaved. Many of you should be that well behaved."

Rob said his fish are well behaved too.
Edited at January 18, 2013 3:35 PM
January 18, 2013 3:35 PM - dibs
Hitchhike, Kazoo, like they did back in '69
January 18, 2013 3:37 PM - dibs
Got the clocks fixed. Nice to have chiming clocks in the house. The ogee clock is especially nice.
January 18, 2013 3:39 PM - kazootite
No can do, dibs. Were you hitchhiking then, dibs?
January 18, 2013 3:46 PM - dibs
No, a few years later.
January 18, 2013 3:48 PM - Arkady
Are they clocks that must be wound, dibs? I have 2 that have to be wound every 7 or 8 days. Bit of a PITA.
January 18, 2013 3:52 PM - dibs
All of them need to be wound and only one is an 8 day...the others are just 2 days.
January 18, 2013 3:55 PM - dibs
Al Gore bought $30 Million dollars of AAPL for about $440,000 by exercising optiions he got as a board member 10 years ago. he is now worth over $330 Million, more than Mitt Romney
Edited at January 18, 2013 3:55 PM
January 18, 2013 3:55 PM - kazootite
Dibs, you were hitchhiking? Where?
January 18, 2013 3:56 PM - dibs
Can't remember...short trips.
January 18, 2013 3:59 PM - dibs
Now I have to monitor the ogee for being too fast...lengthening the pendulum (Speed up, slow down)
Edited at January 18, 2013 4:01 PM
January 18, 2013 4:02 PM - dibs
Watching the Barrett Jackson car auction on Speed Network. Lots of great cars but the really nice stuff is tomorrow.
January 18, 2013 4:14 PM - dibs
And watching the Gooding auction online. This car just sold for $2.55 Million...

Formerly the Property of Baron Carl Silfverschiöld
1935 Mercedes-Benz 500 K Cabriolet A
Coachwork by Sindelfingen
January 18, 2013 4:15 PM - kazootite
Dibs, do you go to the car shows, such as ones in Hershey? I do not but just making conversation.
January 18, 2013 4:21 PM - dibs
I haven't been to Hershey in many, many years. It's a bit of a zoo. I go to shows locally in PA and the regional summer show for the Classic Car Club of America...the really, really nice stuff.
January 18, 2013 4:23 PM - CGar
MM and Six, did you ever go to Kaye's Art Gallery on Chapel Street? (And, Six, spare us the tails of the women you picked up on Chapel & Howe). I just remembered that all my signed Doonesbury posters are from Kaye's - Garry Trudeau used to get his supplies there when he was at Yale and to this day since he lives in Branford, so he used to sign posters for them to sell for causes like "National End Handgun Violence Week", which, along with "Mr. Reagan Goes To Washington" and "The Vietnam Project", will be hanging over dave's bed.
January 18, 2013 4:26 PM - Arkady
6 doesn't usually give details of the tails in his tales.
January 18, 2013 4:26 PM - CGar
kazoo, my Dad used to collect old and classic cars (over the years, he had a Model A, two 1938 Buicks (including a convertible with a rumble seat), a 1950s or 1960s Bentley, and a Mercedes 3.5), and he used to take my brother and me to the car show in Hershey . . . which was fine except when his wife came along for the ride.
January 18, 2013 4:27 PM - CGar
^^^He also had a DeLorean, but that's another story.
January 18, 2013 4:28 PM - dibs
'65 Aston Martin DB5...same as in Skyfall...up for auction now.......

Opened at $400,000.....

Sold for $720,000
January 18, 2013 4:29 PM - Arkady
My grandfather had a Model A until I was about 4 or 5 - not a collectible, still from his original purchase of it. It was neat to drive through the fords in Rock Creek Park sitting on the running boards.
January 18, 2013 4:32 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"6 doesn't usually give details of the tails in his tales."

True but I have quite a tale to tell, and it's not good. But you all will have to wait.
January 18, 2013 4:33 PM - dibs
I think this is one of the prettiest 1930s classics...

1931 Pierce Arrow Waterhouse Convertible Victoria

$320,000


Edited at January 18, 2013 4:33 PM
January 18, 2013 4:34 PM - sixyearsandcounting
And it doesn't involve the corner of Chapel and Howe, CGar!
January 18, 2013 4:34 PM - dibs
First car I ever owned was a 1930 Model A Ford Coupe...rstored it all myself...paint, upholstery, everything.
January 18, 2013 4:35 PM - Deleted
Has anybody seen the advertisements for a dog face lift in the subway, complete with a picture of a "Dr. Z" type? It's got to be a prank. It can't be for real.
January 18, 2013 4:38 PM - CGar
Proceeds from a couple of the posters benefitted "The National Women's Political Caucus". Given how dave feels about women, these are the only things that will be hanging in his room that he won't like.
Edited at January 18, 2013 4:38 PM
January 18, 2013 4:38 PM - dibs
Kazoo...my 1948 Chrysler Town & Country
Edited at January 18, 2013 4:38 PM
January 18, 2013 4:39 PM - CGar
Six, I assume you know the reference from your Yale days?
January 18, 2013 4:41 PM - dibs
Lots of talk about the new Philadelphia Eagles coach being gay. Never been confirmed.


January 18, 2013 4:47 PM - CGar
Is he on SilverDaddies? Though I assume he's not Asian or Mexican or you would've confirmed the rumour by now.
Edited at January 18, 2013 4:47 PM
January 18, 2013 4:53 PM - dibs
No, he's irish, named Kelly. Yuck.
January 18, 2013 4:57 PM - CGar
Could be worse . . . he could be a JEW.
January 18, 2013 5:02 PM - dibs
Remember I dated two Jews but never an Irishman.
January 18, 2013 5:15 PM - DeadCatBounce
I married a Jewish woman. Worst mistake of my life.
January 18, 2013 5:20 PM - dibs
The Puerto Rican was my big mistake. But boy was he hung (h).
January 18, 2013 5:25 PM - CGar
Will you be attending President Obama's inauguration, dave???
January 18, 2013 5:26 PM - CGar
Oh, and dave, whence you return, I need some touch-up painting tips from you. Don't ask. Yes, I know I shouldn't DIY anything. And, yes, I know I need to buy a stud finder (nh).
January 18, 2013 5:29 PM - dibs
I won't be at the inauguration, thank you. I'm going to make it my goal to screw as many Democrats as possible over the next four years as retribution.
Edited at January 18, 2013 5:29 PM
January 18, 2013 5:38 PM - CGar
I'll pass on the screwing, in every sense, thank you. You can just get me drunk instead.
January 18, 2013 5:40 PM - CGar
dave, since I maintain your Unmentionables List, you may start keeping my "NO DIY" List . . .

1. Do not spackle walls.
2. Do not hang shelves.
3. Do not hang pictures.
Edited at January 18, 2013 5:40 PM
January 18, 2013 5:56 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Cgar, I know the location but the area must have changed by my time.

Just exited the Loop.
Edited at January 18, 2013 5:56 PM
January 18, 2013 5:56 PM - CGar
"Just exited the Loop."

You were always out of the loop, Six.
January 18, 2013 6:04 PM - CGar
Six, I lived outside New Haven from 1975 until I was shipped off to boarding school in 1980. My Mom lived there until about 1998. The running joke in the New Haven area was "go to the corner of Chapel & Howe to pick up a hooker".
January 18, 2013 6:16 PM - MontroseMorris
CGar, I vaguely remember Kaye's Art Gallery. New Haven certainly has changed over the last 40 years. When I was interviewing for colleges, I went to Cambridge. I LOVED Cambridge. I really wanted to live there. But I didn't get into Radcliffe. I wasn't that thrilled with New Haven, everyone hated New Haven, for one reason or another. People from NYC thought it was the most boring place in the universe, it had all the problems of the big city, but none of the perks.

Today, it's a beautiful small city. Still got lots of urban problems, though, but they re-did downtown.
Edited at January 18, 2013 6:16 PM
January 18, 2013 6:26 PM - CGar
Well, fuck Radcliffe, MM - they didn't deserve you. Yes, growing up outside New Haven, I'm all too familiar with its image. But, it always had beautiful areas, beautiful architecture in many neighborhoods, and Yale of course. Plus, which, it was only an hour and a half from the City, where we went all the time, as if we were driving to the next town.

(It's possible that I posted to you in BOTD. >>> )

And, PS, though I'd NEVER imply that you're a hooker, and I'd certainly never suggest that to your brother and SIL (though it's possible I'd tell them that I affectionately call you and bxgrl bimbos), but are you familiar with Chapel & Howe???
Edited at January 18, 2013 6:27 PM
January 18, 2013 6:41 PM - MontroseMorris
Yes, I always did like the architecture in New Haven, and Yale's architecture is first rate. I toyed with the idea of going into architecture when I was there, but my drawing skills just weren't up to par. Of course, now no one draws anything, it's all CAD. I was always more interested in preservation rather than creation, and those types of programs didn't exist then, either. But I did get some good history and background classes.

I think if I could live my college years over again, I would have taken, and taken seriously, at least one foreign language, I would have used the gym and health service facilities more, taken a wider variety of classes, and I would have made myself more outgoing. I was far too introverted, and shy.

CGar, I saw your comments. CARROLL GARDENS, we know, we know.
January 18, 2013 6:44 PM - MontroseMorris
I remember Chapel Street, I lived in Vanderbilt Hall, freshman year, which faces Chapel. I'm a bit fuzzy as to where Howe is.

I just Googled it. THAT was hooker central?
Edited at January 18, 2013 6:46 PM
January 18, 2013 6:46 PM - rf
Ah, MM, if we could all relive our college years! It was fun for sure but it looks way different now, looking back.

I echo CGar--stupid Radcliffe!
January 18, 2013 6:47 PM - rf
Shit, I can't believe I am getting another cold! Ugh. Busy weekend, busy week. My niece staying here starting tomorrow for 6 nights, visit to CT (at least we have the new/used car so I didn't have to drive to L.I. today to get my dad's), etc., etc. Well, at least the laundry's done.
January 18, 2013 6:49 PM - MontroseMorris
I ended up where I was supposed to be, rh. I don't think I would have liked Harvard/Radcliffe. I still have dear friends from my college days, and I wouldn't trade them for all the Harvard people in the world.
January 18, 2013 6:57 PM - Arkady
Nobody liked Cliffies anyway.
January 18, 2013 6:59 PM - rf
That's RF, MM! (Harmless mistake, I know. But I know who rh is (lives between where you lived in Brooklyn and where I live in Brooklyn.)

I understand completely that you ended up where you were supposed to be! Just saying that it was really stupid of Radcliffe to turn you down. Hard to believe that Harvard didn't enroll women then! Yale was enlightened earlier.
January 18, 2013 7:01 PM - kazootite
Those are wonderful car stories and photos. Thank you for posting them. My grandfather also had some type of Ford Model-A when I was a kid. He kept it for many years. He let us ride in the rumble seat sometimes but not always. He must have been concerned that we would fall out.

Carry on. Oh, and CGar, care to share that DeLorean story now? your dad sounds like an interesting person. I hope you were able to spend time with him w/o the step-person.


Edited at January 18, 2013 7:01 PM
January 18, 2013 7:03 PM - kazootite
Oops, I returned to a diff subject.
Edited at January 18, 2013 7:03 PM
January 18, 2013 7:03 PM - petebklyn
so did M4L really blogacide? and if he did , over what?
Edited at January 18, 2013 7:03 PM
January 18, 2013 7:07 PM - kazootite
Pete, do you remember that he said he is putting his energies into job hunting? I was wondering how he is doing with that.
Edited at January 18, 2013 7:07 PM
January 18, 2013 7:09 PM - MontroseMorris
Whoops! Sorry about that RF!!!!!! I wasn't even thinking about her, either. Just brain dead.

Back in the early 70s, if you were a woman and wanted to go to Harvard, you had to go to Radcliffe. Same classes, campus, etc, much like the relationship with Columbia and Barnard. I don't know if they changed that. Yale didn't have a sister school, so they just admitted women. First class of women (and the beginning of the end, as far as some fossils are concerned) was in Class of 71, so women started matriculating there as undergrads in 1968. Women had attended the graduate schools since the late 1890s, but were still few and far between, and didn't live on campus.
January 18, 2013 7:09 PM - petebklyn
I know he said he could have interview on LI but he didnt seem interested in driving to garden city or someplace like that

January 18, 2013 7:12 PM - rf
MM, I know, I was a college student then too (started late in October 1966, during Binghamton's last trimester year!).
January 18, 2013 7:16 PM - MontroseMorris
Pete, I don't think he blogicided, just lost his desk and free time. I think M4L will get something better than he even expects.
January 18, 2013 7:17 PM - MontroseMorris
Trimesters must have been tough. Not enough time, or was the school year a lot longer?
January 18, 2013 7:22 PM - rf
It was just my freshman year. November-December-January-February were semester #1 for me; March-April-May-June were semester #2 for me and the last trimester ever. After the summer, school started in September in a normal academic schedule. I don't remember how long they had trimesters, but obviously it was not a successful experiment.
Edited at January 18, 2013 7:22 PM
January 18, 2013 7:23 PM - rf
M4L had a errands to run today.
January 18, 2013 7:25 PM - petebklyn
i know community college in utica had the trimester system...well into the 1970's. Not sure what the philosophy was behind it.

Errands.....looking for brownies?
Edited at January 18, 2013 7:25 PM
January 18, 2013 7:28 PM - kazootite
"I think M4L will get something better than he even expects."

I hope so. M4L seems to have a well thought out system for everything he does. (including job-hunting)
January 18, 2013 7:31 PM - rf
The idea was that you could do a full semester during the summer and graduate early. But not enough students wanted to do that, and the faculty didn't like it either.
January 18, 2013 7:52 PM - petebklyn
watching some flip wilson/geraldine skits on youtube
January 18, 2013 7:53 PM - Deleted
*phew* crises closed. Some domestic disharomy went down last night here at casa de butterfly. My roommate's boyfriend is friends with me on facebook, and last night I guess he had enough of my posts about the new dog. I've been referring to the dog as Cujo for a while now and, I don't know, we kind of had it out last night when they got back. My roommate is not on facebook btw, but apparently they have been reading my posts about the dog this last month.

Apparently there's a bit of a disconnect between how I treat the dog here at home and how I talk about the dog on facebook. I was really confused about what he was so upset over, the fact that I think the dog is batshit bananas (he IS!) or, well, im not even sure. We were arguing for a good hour. I decided to walk away and he was like don't you walk away and I was like omg I got my wish I'm on some reality tv show right now. It was really bizarre.

I was able to stand my ground though, I have never talked trash about my roommate or his boyfriend on facebook or anywhere really! I truly love them! The jist of it, what I got out of anyway, was that I am really nice to the dog at home and act cool with and don't get mad at it when it does stupid shit, but that I vent online about the dog and call him Cujo. He said he thought that it gives the impression to my friends and family that I am being terrorized by a dog here (which at times, is true hahah).

I bit my lip when he said "We feed you and then you go online and talk trash about [insert dog's name here], I thought we were all good friends!" Anyway, my roommate made us go outside with the dog and for us to make up, so we did.

He sent me a nice message on facebook this morning apologizing for being upset over the things I've said about the dog. I wonder if I would have gotten mad/upset if someone was talking trash online about Duke? I really can't answer that though.

In all seriousness, this dog has me pegged at the bottom of the totem pole in this household's pecking order. I think I am somewhere between Dudley and Dinky, and I've only had Dinky since Sunday and even SHE'S already giving me vibes to watch my place!

January 18, 2013 7:55 PM - petebklyn
creating drama wherever he goes.
January 18, 2013 7:58 PM - DeadCatBounce
This situation must be very stressful for M4L. Family to take care of, new apartment...
January 18, 2013 8:01 PM - etson
There were all women's colleges when I was at Oxford but they were all a full part of the university, not a brother / sister relationship. Most of the all male colleges started accepting women in the 1970's and some of the all female colleges admitted men a few years later (the last one did a couple of years ago). Cambridge still has two all female colleges.



January 18, 2013 8:01 PM - Deleted
I truly believe what I did wasn't wrong. I think pets are pretty much like kids. And it's not my dog, but at the same time it's like well sorta my step-dog since I live here. Perhaps because I raised by my grandparents.. Back then parents always talked trash about the kids when they weren't around! It didn't mean they didn't love or take care of them. I know that style of parenting is very different than today where when parents talk about their kids it's not but a giant brag fest and their children are utterly PERFECT little angels, but we all know that's total bullshit and stuff. Too many parents and pet owners these days truly lie to themselves or something because they really WANT to believe they have the perfect child because that would mean they are perfect parents. That shit's creepy.


January 18, 2013 8:04 PM - Deleted
LOL pete, I did NOT create any drama. I can't STAND drama, especially at home or at work. I <3 crazy drama on reality tv shows, but not in my real life. Being an aloof Aquarius sometimes can push peoples' buttons, but that's never my intention. Found out last night he is a Leo, so obviously sparks are gonna fly at times. I did explain that to him. But when dramatic situations like that get sprung upon me sometimes, my reactions aren't normally what people expect. I explained that as well, and I think all is good.


January 18, 2013 8:06 PM - etson
When I applied my high school teacher told me not to apply for any of the former all-female colleges as it would be looked down on somewhat. At the time I thought this was ridiculous and put one down as my second choice (St Anne's) .
Then in my final year there the penultimate all women's college, Somerville, admitted men and I have to admit I still find it totally weird to see / hear about men that went to Somerville.
Guess it may be the same here if Wellesley, Smith etc ever accepted men.
Edited at January 18, 2013 8:06 PM
January 18, 2013 8:07 PM - petebklyn
I assume there are several all-female colleges still. But i don't know which ones. I know Vassar 1st admitted men about 1970
January 18, 2013 8:09 PM - petebklyn
howcum ur apt doesnt have a toilet, etson? I think I read that other day
January 18, 2013 8:11 PM - Deleted
Etson, you really want to go to an all LUG school!?


January 18, 2013 8:12 PM - etson
I think it doesn't have one, I have been in TO the whole time. The new toilet hasn't arrived from Lowe's yet b/c of screwed up communication / delivery. The contractor has redone most of the bathroom but not finished yet (not sure if he took the old one out frankly or if that's even possible).
I had ordered everything online & had it sent there. My PS place is a tiny studio with a tiny bathroom and so most toilets won't fit (i.e. can't cancel delivery & send contractor to pick up another one very easily)
Edited at January 18, 2013 8:12 PM
January 18, 2013 8:13 PM - etson
Wow, I just picked up m4l's incorrect use of i.e. habit. I have to stop posting for another couple of months.
January 18, 2013 8:14 PM - etson
All LUG?? What is that?
January 18, 2013 8:14 PM - Deleted
Lesbian Until Graduation


January 18, 2013 8:15 PM - petebklyn
so you don't believe in DIY?
January 18, 2013 8:16 PM - Deleted
Rutgers has a female college too, Douglass college.

January 18, 2013 8:17 PM - rf
Smith, Wellesley (Hillary's alma mater), Mount Holyoke, Bryn Mawr, Barnard.

Although Barnard is affiliated with Columbia, it has its own administration and faculty. And of course Columbia admits women, since 1983.
January 18, 2013 8:20 PM - kazootite
"casa de butterfly" -haha

Rob, I was admiring your patience with the dog that isn't yours, but you care for because you like your roommates.
Edited at January 18, 2013 8:20 PM
January 18, 2013 8:22 PM - petebklyn
rob believes in DIY.....as far as sex is concerned.
January 18, 2013 8:24 PM - etson
DIY = fine in principle but I'm not the man for it. I think I even managed to screw up ordering kitchen units on my own w/ Ikea's 'online planner'.
I am massively stressed about this renovation & then as soon as the NYC one (hopefully) finishes I start one in London (but I have to do much less myself for that one, besides write checks & worry from afar).

Re LUG: The last college to accept men (St Hilda's) definitely had that reputation. The other former women's colleges had more of a party reputation when I was there.
My first choice, where I went was a former, and still mostly, male college.
January 18, 2013 8:33 PM - Deleted
Sex I do. Honestly, sex complicates things. Well, I guess people can do no strings attached type sex, but I am not into that kind of lifestyle.

Anyway my Friday night is going to be cleaning my Female betta's aquarium, bought her a whole new tank stage design at PetSmart today. She's a total bitch btw. Dudley in the living room is a lot more chill, but a tad on the needy side. The female fish actually attempted to bite my finger last night when I dipped it in. Bettas like to play with your finger sometimes. I think they think it's a big worm or something. When I clean their tanks (on a rotating schedule) tonight is Dinky's turn, I put one in the temp tank and then put that tank up next to the other tank, and Dudley goes BONKERS wanting to breed and stuff, but he can't get to her because they are in separate tanks! Er, I may have already mention that part here the other day.

quote:
Rob, I was admiring your patience with the dog that isn't yours, but you care for because you like your roommates.

It's only fair, they did a LOT of stuff for Duke. (i.e. paying half his dog walker bill, walking, feeding, etc.) I have no problem taking care of other peoples animals because I kinda sorta don't believe that humans really "own" pets. Dog wasn't my dog, he was just BFF for a short time in this Universe and hopped on for the ride the last 10 years.

Did I mention the pigeon story here a few weeks ago? I have to go take a nice warm bubble bath right now and clean the tank before they get home and want to use the kitchen sink to cook, but I'll tell you the pigeon story later.

Edited at January 18, 2013 8:33 PM
January 18, 2013 8:34 PM - Deleted
^ Sex I do NOT do i meant to say!


January 18, 2013 8:40 PM - Arkady
Sarah Lawarence started admitting men in 1962 - first to the graduate pgm - Brian de Palma & William Finley who wanted to study under Wilford Leach (later the head of Shakespeare Festival & director of 1st Edwin Drood among other things). There had been men just after WW 2 on the G.I. Bill but then went back to all female. Now it's fully co-ed.
Edited at January 18, 2013 8:40 PM
January 18, 2013 9:36 PM - pepper
I'd like to live my life with this quote always in mind. I'd at least like to try, anyway....

January 18, 2013 9:41 PM - Deleted
Great quote, and pretty spot on. I was never able to read much of his stuff, tho I don't think I tried. He seems more referenced in other authors' works or something.

Dinky's new digs look amazing! She's getting antsy in the Katrina tank right now.

January 18, 2013 9:53 PM - etson
I see what he is getting at. You need to believe in innate human goodness and / or God for the connection between limited time and loving other people to make sense. Note loving other people, not 'managing to live together in the most painless way possible' or similar.
True test is learning to love people you don't like. I am not very good at it at all, but have started to realize it & trying to improve gradually from a low base.
None of that makes people that are wrong any less wrong. Just makes wrongness less 'fatal'.
Edited at January 18, 2013 9:53 PM
January 18, 2013 10:00 PM - pepper
Wow etson. Super deep. For me, it is sort of more simple. Don't dwell on the inconsequential bullshit. Appreciate and love the humanity of each person, and respect that... Then again, maybe we are saying the same thing, but in a different way.
January 18, 2013 10:05 PM - Deleted
Why would ANYONE want to learn to love people they don't like? That can't be healthy and just comes across as phoney.

BTW. Who has a transgendered fish? I DO! I DO! Dinky was making bubble nests in her aquarium I noticed it tonight when I cleaned "her" tank. WTF? Is there a way to identify the sex of a fish other than the things they do? Will have to do some mad googling later on this. "do female bettas make bubble nests" or something like that. He/She is mad runty, that's why I picked her or him out. But supposedly it's a female, however, I dont think she flared when I put her tank up to Dudley when he was in the Katrina tank when I was cleaning and changing his aquarium.

Oh well, I <3 my shemale fish. And had so much fun seascaping her new digs. It looks amazing!

I am TOTALLY tempted to make a fedders A/C out of popsicle sticks and glue and staples and stick it on the side of her tank (on the outside of course).

There is no snobbery in my fish tanks. Every 5 days everything gets bulldozed and something bigger and better goes up. It also keeps rents down when you do that ;) I mean hells, if we landmarked run of the mill little plastic castles in every ghetto fish tank on earth, NOTHING would be affordable and I wouldnt have any fish. The mermaid would be holding up a FOR RENT sign and / or a bunch of snobby ass neon tetras would move and try to change the whole dynamic of the atmosphere. F that!

Okay, going to go take Cujo out of his cage and walk him.



January 18, 2013 10:05 PM - rf
I don't think God has anything to do with it.
January 18, 2013 10:07 PM - etson
"Then again, maybe we are saying the same thing, but in a different way."

Yes, we are. I was just talking about it in a universal sense as well as a personal one.


January 18, 2013 10:12 PM - etson
Deliberately included "and / or" in my sentence, rf.
If you don't believe in some external / mutually understandable source of goodness (God or not, hence 'and / o'r), I can't see any connection between life being short and wanting to love each other.
In fact under such an assumption I can't see any basis for the word 'should' in the quote.
If goodness doesn't exist then why not 'life is short, I'll have as much fun as I can' .

If there is no universal standard for goodness (again, God or not) or love then it is just in the eye of the beholder and essentially meaningless.

January 18, 2013 10:13 PM - pepper
rob, I'd like some pictures of these tank designs... surely they are worthy of a portfolio...
January 18, 2013 10:15 PM - kazootite
"Don't dwell on the inconsequential bullshit. Appreciate and love the humanity of each person, and respect that... "

Yes, you guys are deep tonight. Perhaps Mother Teresa achieved that.
January 18, 2013 10:19 PM - pepper
I understand what you are saying etson, to some extent. but don't humanists just believe in the goodness/interactions of human relationships, without the need for an external source of that goodness?
January 18, 2013 10:21 PM - rf
Etson, of course we could go back and forth with this :) but I don't think that the end result of not believing in a higher power is to "have as much fun as I can." Doing compassionate acts for others can be its own reward, imho.
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:21 PM
January 18, 2013 10:23 PM - pepper
Haha kazoo. But that's what I was trying to say. It's not necessarily achievable (though Mother Teresa did a good job of it), but it's a good goal to strive for...
January 18, 2013 10:27 PM - pepper
I very much agree with that rf.
January 18, 2013 10:28 PM - Partridge
I thought he was clear in the either or. But you say, "Doing compassionate acts for others can be its own reward." Is that selfish or selfless?
January 18, 2013 10:29 PM - rf
Both!
January 18, 2013 10:31 PM - etson
Sure, and lot of humanists and atheists do good things and a lot of religious people do not.
My point was that 'good' or 'love' have to mean something at some kind of fundamental level, even if we can't always grasp all of that meaning. For religious people that means God, for other people it might mean some kind of universal human spirit or something.
Once you start to assume it is relative and not universal it loses meaning fast - it just becomes a matter of opinion and has no 'moral' supremacy over any other concept, such as power for example. There would be no reason to assume anyone else's 'good' is actually good.
January 18, 2013 10:35 PM - Partridge
I'm with you, Etson.
January 18, 2013 10:39 PM - etson
Interesting & very readable book on this topic if anyone is interested. By a philosopher / novelist who IMO had a very thorough take on human nature:

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11232.The_Sovereignty_of_Good



January 18, 2013 10:41 PM - pepper
ok, yes. well said etson. So much agreement on the OT. Is that a pig I see flying outside my window?
January 18, 2013 10:42 PM - kazootite
"It's not necessarily achievable (though Mother Teresa did a good job of it), but it's a good goal to strive for..."

She "loved the unlovely", or something like that, took the dirty, naked and sick literally out of the gutters in which they were dying, washed their bodies and gave them clean sheets to lie upon. She had the love. I think she sacrificed her own life in doing so, but she would likely say that she gained her life in doing so. If one asked the dirty and dying man what he felt in her presence, likely it would be "love".




January 18, 2013 10:51 PM - kazootite
Pepper, pigs must be flying. Speaking of flying pigs I read your financial explanation last night. I'd like to understand some of that. We will have a talk sometime, okay?


Edited at January 18, 2013 10:51 PM
January 18, 2013 10:52 PM - kazootite
Where is everyone? I hope Etson is typing some answers.
January 18, 2013 10:58 PM - pepper
Sure kazoo, no problem...
Edited at January 18, 2013 10:58 PM
January 18, 2013 11:06 PM - kazootite
Okay then, to quote the Beatles:

"All you need is love, all you need is love

There's nothing you can know that isn't known.
Nothing you can see that isn't shown.
There's nowhere you can be that isn't where
You're meant to be
It's easy.

All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love. Love is all you need."


January 18, 2013 11:18 PM - kazootite
"My point was that 'good' or 'love' have to mean something at some kind of fundamental level, even if we can't always grasp all of that meaning."

That's deep, Etson! "grasp all of that meaning". Like fathoming the unfathomable. Yikes!

[took out the last part]



January 19, 2013 12:21 AM - rf
And in the end, the love you take
Is equal to the love you make

January 19, 2013 8:28 AM - petebklyn
okay -- weekend has begun. Get up one and all.