Wednesday Open Thread
November 14, 2012 7:25 AM - Cobble B. Hiller

373 comments
November 14, 2012 7:26 AM - Deleted
Sunset Park. Cass Gilbert represent
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#1
November 14, 2012 7:30 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM

Si, Sunset Park, DH.

I did not know that. Thanks! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Gilbert
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#2
November 14, 2012 7:32 AM - RowerChick
GM
Yea! Sleeping thru the night is a beautiful thing.
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#3
November 14, 2012 7:35 AM - Arkady
Cue diatribe.
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#4
November 14, 2012 7:40 AM - dibs
GM
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#5
November 14, 2012 7:47 AM - dibs
I'll be off and on here today. Have to go see a few company presentations from 10 to 3 at the Intercontinental. All singapore REITs including a Sharia REIT.
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:47 AM
#6
November 14, 2012 8:01 AM - rf
I am SO TIRED. But can't go back to sleep. You guys better entertain me today!
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#7
November 14, 2012 8:04 AM - dibs
800 million Facebook shares hit the market today as lockup expires
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#8
November 14, 2012 8:31 AM - CGar
Fuck off.
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#9
November 14, 2012 8:34 AM - the chicken
B'jour!

Has anybody here heard of Stephen Fry?
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#10
November 14, 2012 8:37 AM - CGar
"Has anybody here heard of Stephen Fry?"

Fuck off. I follow him on Twitter. But not you.
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#11
November 14, 2012 8:41 AM - the chicken
But how can you have heard of him? He hasn't starred in anything big in the US as far as I'm aware. I would imagine that only snobs who watch reruns of QI on BBC World would recognise him.....
#12
November 14, 2012 8:44 AM - petebklyn
never heard of him. did he have an affair with someone important?
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#13
November 14, 2012 8:47 AM - the chicken
I don't know about "affair" but he did used to be Hugh Laurie's comedy partner (yes, Dr House Hugh Laurie). I wouldn't expect americans to know who he is but Pingu and Arkady think I'm a snob for thinking that.
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#14
November 14, 2012 8:48 AM - dibs
You are a bit of a snob but for other reasons.
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#15
November 14, 2012 8:49 AM - Deleted
that bldg looks a lot like my old one
#16
November 14, 2012 8:52 AM - MontroseMorris
Stephen Fry has also had a lot of small parts on tv shows here. He plays psychiatrists a lot, for some reason. I liked him in a couple of good movies, Peter's Friends, one of Kenneth Branagh's early movies, and Cold Comfort Farm, one of the funniest movies, ever.
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#17
November 14, 2012 8:52 AM - Donatella

Hugh Laurie has completely hidden his British accent in House. It is reassuring to know that he doesn't have a damaged leg in real life (that is hard to watch sometimes). That show started to die from its own premise. That character is a living breathing horror show; at first, you are fascinated by this brilliant, pill-popping, misanthropic, doctor with a painful leg injury and then you can't take him anymore.
#18
November 14, 2012 8:53 AM - dibs
"that bldg looks a lot like my old one"

When you were in prison??? Where was that???
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#19
November 14, 2012 8:54 AM - Deleted
WB natch. N4th and Kent
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#20
November 14, 2012 8:55 AM - MontroseMorris
I liked House (the show) for the first couple of seasons, but then it got too formulaic, and they made him so self destructive and nasty that it just wasn't fun to watch. He should have gone to jail numerous times, been sued even more, and someone surely would have killed him, had it been real life.

Hugh Laurie was great, though.
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#21
November 14, 2012 8:56 AM - dibs
Given any more thought to any specific examples of "corporate welfare," MM????? Not just randomly naming companies (defense industry and energy are the usual targets) but actually outlining the egregious welfare that they receive???

I thought not.
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#22
November 14, 2012 8:56 AM - dibs
Why was every disease always considered sarcoidosis at some point??????????
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#23
November 14, 2012 8:57 AM - Deleted
lol - or lupus.
#24
November 14, 2012 8:58 AM - MontroseMorris
Above photos are the Brooklyn Army Terminal. Sadly best known for where Elvis embarked on his short military career.
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#25
November 14, 2012 8:59 AM - Deleted
The Brooklyn Army Terminal is in Bay Ridge, not Sunset Park. As Partridge once pointed out, the dividing line between the two areas is 60th Street.
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#26
November 14, 2012 9:00 AM - Deleted
ewww bay ridge
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#27
November 14, 2012 9:00 AM - Slope4Eva
GM. I can't decide if Dr. House is incredibly sexy, or, gross. Hugh Laurie, himself is dreamy. Dona, I agree, the show burnt itself out.

SERIOUS question to you homeowners.... I shut off the valves to the garden hoses last night. Disconnected the hoses, drained the lines. The one out front spit out some water, the one in the yard is STILL leaking since around 10 last night. Is this OK? Can I just leave it to drain? My husband is having another surgery today to replace the piece of his skull that was left out to accommodate swelling, so I won't be home until tomorrow night the earliest (unless someone hear tells me I have a water problem). Thoughts??
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#28
November 14, 2012 9:01 AM - MontroseMorris
Dave, give it a rest. We're all just talking here. I'm not obligated to give you a dissertation on any topic. No matter what I say, you'll only deride it, and then change the parameters of the discussion, as you always do. I am not interested in continuing this. I have my own opinions, and I'm keeping them. I'm not required to lay them out for your approval.


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#29
November 14, 2012 9:03 AM - dibs
Eva...maybe the valve isn't closing completely but more likely just water in the line. If there is a small knurled nut at the valve, remove that (after you shut off the valve) and the rubber washer inside and the rest of the water will drain out.

Frankly, you're not at risk of these freezing until we get to prolonged temps in the 20s.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:03 AM
#30
November 14, 2012 9:04 AM - dibs
Plus, even if water remains in the line, as long as you keep the hose end open the pipes won't freeze solid and burst. Bursting only occurs after partial thawing when there is water pressure in cases like this.
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#31
November 14, 2012 9:05 AM - the chicken
"lol - or lupus."

I've got a photo somewhere of the london lupus centre that made me laugh out loud - because it's never lupus.

Apparently, one of the reasons why Laurie is so convincing as House is because he is sanpaku.

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#32
November 14, 2012 9:05 AM - dibs
And to be able to leave them on all year long, have a sillcock (nh) installed. The actual shutoff remains all the way back inside the house where it is still heated
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#33
November 14, 2012 9:06 AM - dibs
Thanks for that, MM. My suspicions have now been fulfilled.
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#34
November 14, 2012 9:07 AM - MontroseMorris
Whatever, Dave.
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#35
November 14, 2012 9:08 AM - Slope4Eva
OK, thanks Dave. I know temp wise I'm still OK. Just wondering if I could leave it open until I can check it out. Valve is open all the way (OCD kicked in and I checked over and over). Gracias.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:08 AM
#36
November 14, 2012 9:09 AM - dibs
I just think it's a sad commentary on our society and the political bullshit that's been fed to it and largely absorbed without any fact checking that terms like "corporate welfare" are used so freely without any understanding of the issue ar ability to provide a concrete example.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:09 AM
#37
November 14, 2012 9:11 AM - dibs
Yes, just leave it open but, a dripping valve all winter long will move you water bill despite how insignificant it may seem.
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#38
November 14, 2012 9:11 AM - MontroseMorris
The same can be said for "socialism" and numerous other allegations of the right.


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#39
November 14, 2012 9:13 AM - Arkady
Ditto what dibs said, Eva.
Chicken - I used to think S. Fry was unknown here too until I went to a book signing - place was filled beyond capacity & the queue for his autograph after the speech was going to take upwards of 3 hours!
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#40
November 14, 2012 9:14 AM - dibs
I gave an example of socialism, complete with a chart. If you don't think a doubling of food stamp handout amounts over the past 4 years isn't an example of socilaism where money is transferred from the haves to the have nots then I can't help it.

We both agreed that the system was flawed and full of fraud but that doesn't change the fact that it is actually an excellent exzmple of a shift towards socialism.
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#41
November 14, 2012 9:14 AM - MontroseMorris
That's right, Arkady, I had forgotten that he's quite an accomplished author, too.
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#42
November 14, 2012 9:15 AM - dibs
I would never queue up for anything British.
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#43
November 14, 2012 9:15 AM - MontroseMorris
Dave, I'm not playing with you, today. You're talking to yourself. If it makes you feel superior to "prove" anything here, well, go right ahead.
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#44
November 14, 2012 9:16 AM - MontroseMorris
Yes, feeding people is socialist. Sign me up.
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#45
November 14, 2012 9:17 AM - Slope4Eva
Thanks, Arkady. I'll have someone look at it when I get back home in a day or so.
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#46
November 14, 2012 9:17 AM - dibs
I suspect the issue may be that trying to elicit facts and logic from the liberal arts types is what makes this so problematic.
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#47
November 14, 2012 9:18 AM - dibs
"Yes, feeding people is socialist. Sign me up."

Again, you miss the whole point. How can that be with a Yale education??????????
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#48
November 14, 2012 9:18 AM - petebklyn
how about mining companies leasing fed land for something like $5 an acre.....no matter how much mineral and metal that take from our public land.
Food stamps is not socialism, moron. Neither is public school.
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#49
November 14, 2012 9:20 AM - MontroseMorris
Dave, what part of "not playing" didn't you get? I guess they'll hand out MBA's to just about anyone.
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#50
November 14, 2012 9:20 AM - dibs
"something like $5 an acre" Again, a very broad brush statement unsubstantiated by an real factual data.
#51
November 14, 2012 9:20 AM - Deleted
Funny thing is: biggest increase of food stamp benefits was in red states
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#52
November 14, 2012 9:21 AM - Deleted
but we all know the rhetoric on the right regarding food stamps is just code for "lazy black people"

carry on
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#53
November 14, 2012 9:21 AM - dibs
But by continuing to reply you are actually are playing, or at least I'm still able to reel you in.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:21 AM
#54
November 14, 2012 9:22 AM - Slopefarm
As I promised CGar, some Amtrak haiku from yesterday's trip:

emerging from dark
tunnel 'neath west side highway
scenic sewage plant

graceful yet rotting
tappan zee bridge, monument
to shortsighted thrift

mists shroud bear mountain
why the fuck are we stopped just
south of poughkeepsie

mid-river islands
with houses so elegant
big insurance risk


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#55
November 14, 2012 9:22 AM - petebklyn
whatever the actual number.....people of the united states are getting raw deal.
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#56
November 14, 2012 9:22 AM - dibs
Lazy has no color, dh. It's also learned behaviour.
#57
November 14, 2012 9:24 AM - petebklyn
the wars between NYC and jersey over biz offices is another. who can give the biggest tax break.
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#58
November 14, 2012 9:24 AM - CGar
"But how can you have heard of him? He hasn't starred in anything big in the US as far as I'm aware."

He was the lead in "Peter's Friends", MORON, the UK version of "The Big Chill".
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#59
November 14, 2012 9:25 AM - dibs
Slopey, where did you go???

Your absence was notable yesterday. The quality and calibre of dialogue was far superior to other days
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#60
November 14, 2012 9:27 AM - Arkady
Moab is my Washpot
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#61
November 14, 2012 9:27 AM - CGar
"You are a bit of a snob but for other reasons."

dave's right (for once). No wonder you and Arkady get on so well.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:27 AM
#62
November 14, 2012 9:28 AM - More4Less
Knicks are 5-0 and ranked #1 in this early season. I'm enjoying it while it lasts plus it's welcomed news as both NYC football teams are playing terribly
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#63
November 14, 2012 9:31 AM - CGar
"Dave, I'm not playing with you, today"

Nh? (No handjob?)
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#64
November 14, 2012 9:32 AM - CGar
"Moab is my Washpot"

dave, does this woman even speak English???
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#65
November 14, 2012 9:34 AM - CGar
Eva, I agree with dave and Arkady.

Good luck with her husband's surgery. (And thanks so much for the vasovagal reaction.)
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#66
November 14, 2012 9:35 AM - the chicken
He was the lead in "Peter's Friends", MORON, the UK version of "The Big Chill".
"Peter's Friends", MORON, the UK version of "The Big Chill".
MORON, the UK version of "The Big Chill".
the UK version of "The Big Chill".
the UK version
UK

MORON
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#67
November 14, 2012 9:38 AM - dibs
OK...headed off to the company meetings.
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#68
November 14, 2012 9:40 AM - DeLepp
Stephen Fry has also written 2 funny novels, "The Liar' and "The Hippopatamus".
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#69
November 14, 2012 9:41 AM - Slope4Eva
"Eva, I agree with dave and Arkady." Oh, that makes me feel better... NOT. Just kidding, love.

Thanks, this surgery is a step in the right direction, finally.
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#70
November 14, 2012 9:43 AM - CGar
"UK

MORON"

I've never agreed more with anything you've posted, chicken. ;-)
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#71
November 14, 2012 9:48 AM - Slopefarm
"Slopey, where did you go???"

It should be obvious from my haiku that I took amtrak to Albany.

MORON.

(Wow, That felt good. (nh))


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#72
November 14, 2012 9:52 AM - Donatella

I had Ceriello electric over here to check out something with my bathroom and I asked him about how he made out with the storm. This worker lives in Howard Beach and lost his car and got seriously flooded. Others at the company living in Staten Island had a lot of damage; he was telling me that the owner is very cautious about getting involved with "certifying" houses to receive power, something that several areas are supposed to do. The owner feels that this opens him up to a whole world of liability. But he defended the slow and methodical approach of the utilities in turning on power.

It seems that many of the problems that the utilities have relate to communication, not engineering.
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#73
November 14, 2012 9:55 AM - the chicken
I love you too Pingu
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#74
November 14, 2012 9:56 AM - ilovestoops
chicken: JEEVES! - Fry was adorable and Laurie was so goofy
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#75
November 14, 2012 9:57 AM - Donatella

Eva, it does sound like things are moving in the right direction with your husband. I'm really glad; good luck to him today.

My next door neighbors didn't have one of those "sillcock" devices on their garden hose and left for the Christmas holidays one year without turning off the hose connection. Merry Christmas! I had to call 911 because the pipe burst and it was a geyser in the backyard which filled up my basement.
#76
November 14, 2012 9:59 AM - Slope4Eva
Thanks, Dona.
#77
November 14, 2012 10:00 AM - Donatella

They sent the Fire Department to break in the building to turn off the water. I didn't mention that there wasn't a soul in the building; all the tenants had left for the holidays too. We then put into place our "holiday emergency plan", i.e. keys and/or a contact. And they got a sillcock. Never a dull moment.
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#78
November 14, 2012 10:00 AM - dibs
Just got to my first meeting. All these companies are Singaporean so the accents and use of Singlish are both rather annoying.

Looking forward to hearing Sabana Shari'ah Compliant REIT, the largest Shari'ah compliant REIT in the world with a juicy 8.3% yield.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:00 AM
#79
November 14, 2012 10:10 AM - More4Less
a few of my friends working in HK moved to singapore cause of lower cost of living - ie for his same pay, he has a house, car, 2 maids vs aptmt, no car and 1 maid in HK
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#80
November 14, 2012 10:25 AM - Deleted
zzzzzzzzzzzz
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#81
November 14, 2012 10:28 AM - CGar
"I love you too Pingu"

nh? h? (dave will be jealous)

I just Googled and realized you're referring to me in your post and earlier email. I was ignoring you because I thought you were calling me a variation of "penga" or "pinga".
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:32 AM
#82
November 14, 2012 10:30 AM - dibs
"pinga" means something altogether different
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#83
November 14, 2012 10:33 AM - Deleted
i learned a long time ago to never google any term dave uses that i don't know
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#84
November 14, 2012 10:35 AM - Slopefarm
"Shari'ah compliant REIT" ???

That would pose some interesting HR questions.


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#85
November 14, 2012 10:42 AM - CGar
dave, Urban Dictionary:

"pinga
Spanish word that means "Dick""
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pinga

"penga
Penga is another soft term for penis/cock/dick"
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=penga
#86
November 14, 2012 10:44 AM - the chicken
"i learned a long time ago to never google any term dave uses that i don't know"

LOL


Pingu, nh. Anyways, we've established I'm not your type.
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#87
November 14, 2012 10:44 AM - CGar
"i learned a long time ago to never google any term dave uses that i don't know"

I know, Holmes, but it was actually the chicken who called me "Pingu".
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#88
November 14, 2012 10:45 AM - Slopefarm
Hey dona,

Every time you have a crazy story it reminds me of one of mine. When we were in contract for our house but in litigation with the flipper/seller, the flipper left the water on in the house through the winter but there was no gas service and no heat. A pipe burst on the second floor, causing a lot of flooding and taking down the sheetrock walls and ceilings in a number of rooms and damaging the floor in the garden apartment beyond repair. The next door neighbor called me and when we were in settlement talks, we insisted on a new inspection and were able to negotiate for a lower price as a result. Not only was there more damage but we were able to look behind more walls and see more fraud.
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#89
November 14, 2012 10:48 AM - CGar
"we've established I'm not your type"

No, but I'll gladly accept your orgasmic home-cooked dinners and massages when you're here next month.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:48 AM
#90
November 14, 2012 11:02 AM - rf
Former CIA Director David Petraeus has agreed to testify at a closed-door session of Congress to answer questions about September's terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya, but he will likely also be asked about new revelations that his alleged mistress Paula Broadwell is suspected of storing classified military material, at her home.

Petraeus had been reluctant to testify following his resignation as CIA chief, but pressure had been growing in Congress for him to appear.

The former general has agreed, sources told ABC News, to testify on Thursday.

A source familiar with the case also told ABC News that Broadwell admitted to the FBI she took documents from secure government buildings. The government demanded that they all be given back, and when federal agents descended on her North Carolina home on Monday night it was a pre-arranged meeting.

Prosecutors are now determining whether to charge Broadwell with a crime, and this morning the FBI and military are pouring over the material. The 40-year-old author, who wrote the biography on Gen. Petraeus "All In," is cooperating and the case, which is complicated by the fact that as an intelligence officer in the U.S. Military Reserve she had security clearance to review the documents.

The FBI found classified material on a computer voluntarily handed over by Broadwell earlier in the investigation. Prosecutors will now have to determine how important the classified material is before making a final decision. Authorities could decide to seek disciplinary action against her rather than pursue charges.

More here including stuff about Jill Kelley and the General Allen here:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/petraeus-scandal-paula-broadwell-classified-document-probe/story?id=17714560#.UKO_Boc8CSo
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#91
November 14, 2012 11:02 AM - rf
Dave, didn't you say you wouldn't be here much today?
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#92
November 14, 2012 11:08 AM - Donatella

You always make me feel better, Slopey!! One of the best stories I ever heard was that your crook seller wanted you to maintain historical period correctness by using candles to go up and down the dark hallways.
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#93
November 14, 2012 11:13 AM - More4Less
Donatella, not hallways but stairs
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#94
November 14, 2012 11:15 AM - Slopefarm
Not naming names, but some people here are sick of that story, dona. Also, it was the seller's "contractor" (the fright quotes don't do justice to how misapplied the word contractor is in that context). That's the same guy who wanted to sell the marble mantels to my neighbor.
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#95
November 14, 2012 11:15 AM - Donatella

I read all the various stories on Petraeus and his erstwhile clown mistress, the sleeze socialite, her psycho twin sister's custody trial (at which Petraeus testified on her behalf!) the headcase local FBI agent, General Allen. What a bunch of creeps and losers.

My favorite article on the whole business:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83733.html

Good riddance to all of them. And I hope they charge Broadwell criminally. She stole classified documents.

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#96
November 14, 2012 11:19 AM - the chicken
I have seen reference to "Holmes" several times but not really understood it. Is it used like "Sherlock"?
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#97
November 14, 2012 11:19 AM - Donatella

Slopey, how can anyone get sick of that story?? It is the best thing you took out of that whole horrible initiation to home ownership. Great comic material! Those people were classics!! That is what keeps me sane here (ok I admit I am on the verge). One story after another. How could you make up those squirrel stories?
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#98
November 14, 2012 11:20 AM - rf
Donatella, the first reason I posted that quote from ABC News is to repudiate the conspiracy theories promulgated yesterday on the OT by our mutual friend (NOT!).
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#99
November 14, 2012 11:23 AM - CGar
chicken, "Holmes" is a DHism. I asked him years ago what it meant, but don't recall it meaning anything in particular.
Edited at November 14, 2012 11:23 AM
November 14, 2012 11:24 AM - CGar
According to Urban Dictionary . . .

"Holmes
Gangster slang. What you would call a good friend, a stranger, or even mockery against an adversary.

Was`sup, holmes.
You got a problem with it, holmes?"
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November 14, 2012 11:26 AM - More4Less
holmes is white boy version of home boy
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November 14, 2012 11:27 AM - Deleted
i think holmes is more cali mexican gangsta slang
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November 14, 2012 11:27 AM - Deleted
holmes / SA
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November 14, 2012 11:28 AM - RowerChick
When I lived in NZ, we had 3 TV channels. They showed some Aussie shows, but mostly British programming. There was a sketch comedy show called "A Bit of Fry & Laurie" which was hysterical. There was also another sketch comedy out of England called "Alas Smith & Jones" with Mel Smith & Griff Rhys Jones that had me glued to the TV screen. I didn't watch a lot of TV in NZ, but I loved those two. I hadn't thought about them in forever. Thanks for the Fry & Laurie thread. I need to check if I can get those on netflix. I need some comedy right about now.
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November 14, 2012 11:28 AM - Donatella

rf, hopefully, everybody will get the full story at the hearing so we can move on. And Petraeus can go home to his wife. (HA!)
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November 14, 2012 11:33 AM - the chicken
"Holmes
Gangster slang. What you would call a good friend, a stranger, or even mockery against an adversary."

So, basically it is appropriate for addressing anyone, friend or foe. Noted, adopted and loaded ready for release at an opportune time.
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November 14, 2012 11:35 AM - Deleted
it would probably sound way more sophis with a brit accent
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November 14, 2012 11:40 AM - More4Less
oh yeah, do hear holmes used a lot in movies, tv by mexican gangstas
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November 14, 2012 11:41 AM - the chicken
not if that brit came from the midlands....
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November 14, 2012 11:43 AM - More4Less
Chicken, your accent is like etson's??
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November 14, 2012 11:45 AM - Slopefarm
dona, that is not the best story. Did I ever post about the seller's ex-wife's suit against him claiming he stole title from her through a forged deed? Or how he and his ex-wife were represented in that litigation and ours and in settlement talks by two lawyers sharing the same office suite, phone number and secretary but denied collusion ("it's a small community -- this sort of thing happens all the time")? Or how one of those lawyers seemed to be calling our lawyer and pretending he was the other lawyer?

Or the one when his "kitchen girls" designed a tiny kitchen for the house with a sink peninsula at a 45 degree angle to the back wall counter and oven? Or how he cancelled a meeting at the house "because it is raining"? Or how he failed to show up at a prearranged meeting about the kitchen because he overslept? Or how he showed up 90 minutes late for closing then started complaining that it was taking too long (it was a Friday afternoon).
Edited at November 14, 2012 11:45 AM
November 14, 2012 11:49 AM - the chicken
"Chicken, your accent is like etson's??"

True story, etson and I come from the same city in the UK and our hometowns are right next to each other. My accent is probably a bit less refined than his.

Edited at November 14, 2012 11:49 AM
November 14, 2012 11:52 AM - dibs
I said "off and on" rf. why are you keeping track???? At least im not filling up spave with reposted stories of what we all can read in the media.
Edited at November 14, 2012 11:52 AM
November 14, 2012 11:57 AM - CGar
"loaded ready for release at an opportune time"

h? nh?
November 14, 2012 11:58 AM - More4Less
Dave, any talent at the meeting? guess not else you would be raving about it already
Edited at November 14, 2012 11:58 AM
November 14, 2012 12:01 PM - Donatella
wow, Slopey. What a piece of work. I wonder where he is now. Rikers? Re my seller, she was getting a divorce and in really rough shape, highly medicated. She kept playing games; she found another buyer after we signed an agreement of sale and made a game of who could get the contract back to her first. At the closing, she said how bad she felt for the doctor she found, the other buyer. I shared her sympathy. "Yeah, poor guy".
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:01 PM
November 14, 2012 12:09 PM - MontroseMorris
Slopey, it just gets better and better. You need to finish your book.
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:09 PM
November 14, 2012 12:11 PM - Slopefarm
Not rikers, dona, but maybe bankruptcy court. Mrs. Slopey and I had a daily discussion during the worst of it along the lines of whether the flipper was a criminal or an idiot.
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:11 PM
November 14, 2012 12:13 PM - Slopefarm
book is on hold, MM and I may never write it. I get too mad when I try to write it. Not good for my sanity to remain obsessed. Need to look forward more. Maybe in a year I will turn it into a Moth pitch.
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:13 PM
November 14, 2012 12:20 PM - DeadCatBounce
Pete, your example was not corporate welfare.
It was an example of crony capitalism.
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:20 PM
November 14, 2012 12:24 PM - rf
Bike-Share Equipment Apparently Damaged by Flooding
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/15/nyregion/bike-share-equipment-apparently-damaged-by-flooding.html?src=twrhp
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:24 PM
November 14, 2012 12:25 PM - More4Less
DCB, can I step in to collect on that pizza given Randi aint gonna show up to collect? think he is too shy to show up
November 14, 2012 12:32 PM - dibs
No talent here for me but a fair number for you. They tend to be the more ggeky, intelligent analyst young asian girls hired by hedge funds to have a pretty asian face and then the DBS conference planners so could find someone to listen to your pickup lines!!!!
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:38 PM
November 14, 2012 12:33 PM - DeadCatBounce
No M4L, you cannot!
I will buy you a slice with toppings on it one day, though.
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:33 PM
November 14, 2012 12:35 PM - DeadCatBounce
Dave, do you or any one there have any in depth info on ZNH?
I have researched it but with Chinese stocks, it is hard to know. The dividend does look secure.
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:35 PM
November 14, 2012 12:36 PM - MontroseMorris
A quote from one of the crazies - a far right wing site discussing why Obama will never be re-elected. You can't make this stuff up. Well, actually, they do:

"I just heard he (Obama) cut funding so veterans can’t play taps at veteran’s funerals anymore – they will be using recording. do you hear that anywhere from the lame stream media? Where do you think the “savings” will be used? Food Stamps? Aid to illegal aliens perhaps?"
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:36 PM
November 14, 2012 12:36 PM - Donatella


ok, regarding Yiddish words..... Perfect score! 100%

http://dynamo.dictionary.com/games/66825/oy-vey-im-verklempt-yiddish-words/match

I get these word tests from dictionary.com. This one was for Yiddish words.

Edited at November 14, 2012 12:36 PM
November 14, 2012 12:38 PM - More4Less
oh yeah, I love them cute analysts in them suits
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:38 PM
November 14, 2012 12:43 PM - More4Less
DCB, extra cheese, on the white slice.
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:43 PM
November 14, 2012 12:43 PM - dibs
Dcb, havent looked at ZNH in a long time. Its a very volatile stock with all the macro that affects airlines but a real company
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:43 PM
November 14, 2012 12:45 PM - More4Less
Dave, get some pics and digits for my supplier. the more the merrier.
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:45 PM
November 14, 2012 12:45 PM - DeadCatBounce
MM, that quote from an unnamed web site, is inflammatory and does not advance the discussion.
You can't get far in a debate by calling the other side stupid.
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:45 PM
November 14, 2012 12:46 PM - Deleted
"You can't get far in a debate by calling the other side stupid."

hear that DIBS?
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:46 PM
November 14, 2012 12:48 PM - dibs
Fuck off, moron.
November 14, 2012 12:50 PM - More4Less
this is a good time to remind all that I can be called all sort of names as long as someone buys me an apple martini and I haven't finished it yet.
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:50 PM
November 14, 2012 12:52 PM - Arkady
MM - I got that ages ago from a red-neck teabag friend of mine. I Snopesed him back - to no avail. He also sent screeds of rewritten speeches made by GWB but ascribed to the Big O & demonized & when I sent them back w/ true ascription he just denied it. They're possessed!
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:52 PM
November 14, 2012 12:53 PM - More4Less
keep some of the fighting till I'm back from my long ass call.
Edited at November 14, 2012 12:53 PM
November 14, 2012 1:03 PM - Slopefarm
Mostly Yinglish, dona, borscht belt stuff and common NY parlance. But some too-fine parsing on the meaning of shmo.

Bonus: What is the difference between a schlemiel and a schlemazel?
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:03 PM
November 14, 2012 1:03 PM - Partridge
Slopey, just discovered The Moth Radio Hour. Was blown away by the story of a young, Vietnamese boy's escape. Great story telling.
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:03 PM
November 14, 2012 1:05 PM - dibs
"teabag friend"

That would be "tea party" friend i hope. We dont want to hear about your sexual escapades
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:05 PM
November 14, 2012 1:06 PM - Slopefarm
A: A schlemiel is accident prone. A schlemazel is the hapless victim, usually of the schlemiel's accidents.
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:06 PM
November 14, 2012 1:15 PM - Arkady
Hassenpfeffer Incorporated.
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:14 PM
November 14, 2012 1:15 PM - dibs
And which old TV show used both of those words in their theme song??????
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:15 PM
November 14, 2012 1:16 PM - Arkady
I dunno. We jumped rope to it.
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:16 PM
November 14, 2012 1:18 PM - Arkady
Schlemiel spills his soup on the schlemazel.
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:18 PM
November 14, 2012 1:21 PM - dibs
Arkady, Xing taking me to our favorite French place tonight.
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:21 PM
November 14, 2012 1:22 PM - dibs
First time ive worn a tie in about 8 or9 months
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:22 PM
November 14, 2012 1:23 PM - DeadCatBounce
Arkady, extraordinarily generous of you to set that imbecile straight. He is a lucky man to have a friend like you.
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:23 PM
November 14, 2012 1:23 PM - Arkady
What're you going to have?
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:23 PM
November 14, 2012 1:24 PM - RowerChick
We're gonna do it our way, yes our way makin' ou dreams come true, for me & you. Laverne & Shirley
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:24 PM
November 14, 2012 1:25 PM - Partridge
He must have REALLY been impressed by his new coffee machine, huh, Dibs?
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:25 PM
November 14, 2012 1:26 PM - dibs
Probably foie gras and the kidneys and a grand marnier souffle
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:25 PM
November 14, 2012 1:27 PM - dibs
Probably more impressed with my ability to froth his milk!!!!!
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:27 PM
November 14, 2012 1:27 PM - MontroseMorris
"MM, that quote from an unnamed web site, is inflammatory and does not advance the discussion."

I wasn't trying to advance any discussion. I was just cutting and pasting a comment from someone on a site. The fact that it's inflammatory is the fault of the poster, not me. Actually, compared to some of the people on there, this person is a blooming genius. Most of them are seriously wacko.

Read for yourself.

http://political-economy.com/obama-2012/
November 14, 2012 1:27 PM - Arkady
No quenelles???
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:27 PM
November 14, 2012 1:29 PM - Partridge
Les rognons. Yuk.
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:29 PM
November 14, 2012 1:29 PM - Arkady
Oy! CG! Did you see that there's a Subway going in next to Montero's?
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:29 PM
November 14, 2012 1:42 PM - DeadCatBounce
I had never heard of that web site, so I went over and looked at it. Some of the economists discussed are: Karl Marx, David Hume, Hegel, Keynes, Locke, Aquinas.
I have studied all those people, too. So I guess I am just as big a whacko. In fact, the best way to not be a whacko is probably to never study anything at all!
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:42 PM
November 14, 2012 1:49 PM - MontroseMorris
Now that's being obtuse, and might I say, disingenuous, DCB. The link leads directly to the comment section about the election, and the nutballs are out in full force. You know full well that's what I'm referring to, not serious discussions about Hegel, Hume and Aquinas.
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:51 PM
November 14, 2012 1:53 PM - DeadCatBounce
There are nut balls everywhere, MM.
Finding them in the ranks of people you disagree with does not prove anything.
Personally, I like to find intelligent opinions that differ from my own.
Edited at November 14, 2012 1:53 PM
November 14, 2012 2:02 PM - Donatella

Arkady beat me to the schmeil and schmazel question.

I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who is a rather colorful, irascible character. A curmudgeon's curmudgeon. He is a wonderful guy but somewhat emotional and given to rants. He was complaining about getting a license from a gov't agency, (which has dragged its feet in doing so) and he ended his rant (as many others) by "I want them dead". That's what I like about him; he gets to the point. Then he went on a rant about building in flood plains and shoreline. I said "Interesting, Henry, but maybe you should keep these thoughts to yourself when talking to anyone from the Rockaways, Staten Island, Gerritsen Beach, Coney Island, Red Hook, etc. etc." "yeah, yeah, I know".
November 14, 2012 2:06 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Another excellent commentary on Petraeus:
"Nation Horrified To Learn About War In Afghanistan While Reading Up On Petraeus Sex Scandal"
http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-horrified-to-learn-about-war-in-afghanistan,30367/

and something I never would have learned from the OT:
"Widening Petraeus Scandal Reveals Human Race Has Been Having Sex For 200,000 Years"
http://www.theonion.com/articles/widening-petraeus-scandal-reveals-human-race-has-b,30368
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:06 PM
November 14, 2012 2:10 PM - Slopefarm
LOL, 6. Lots of folks repeating the adage about the impossibility of blackmailing a Frenchman.
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:10 PM
November 14, 2012 2:28 PM - Slopefarm
THAT's a threadkiller?
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:28 PM
November 14, 2012 2:29 PM - CGar
"Arkady, Xing taking me to our favorite French place tonight."

Cue Kevin the Mexican Busboy . . .
November 14, 2012 2:31 PM - CGar
"You can't get far in a debate by calling the other side stupid."

Tell that to Bobby Jindal, DCB, who yesterday said the Republicans can't continue to be "the stupid party".
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:31 PM
November 14, 2012 2:33 PM - CGar
"Bonus: What is the difference between a schlemiel and a schlemazel?"

Ah, now I see where THAT thread came from.
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:33 PM
November 14, 2012 2:34 PM - CGar
"Oy! CG! Did you see that there's a Subway going in next to Montero's?"

No? Really? I've only been to Montero's 100 times since the sign went up. And posted in the thread over there this morning. >>>
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:34 PM
November 14, 2012 2:36 PM - rf
I thought you can't post over there. Congratulations!
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:36 PM
November 14, 2012 2:37 PM - dibs
Unfortunately there are no Mexican busboys at this restaurant. It really lost some of its cache when they decided to hire female waiters.
November 14, 2012 2:40 PM - DeadCatBounce
Maybe it gained some cache for Xing.
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:40 PM
November 14, 2012 2:42 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"Several independent forecast models are now pointing towards a storm headed for the tri-state area on Sunday, reported Rob White at Original Weather Blog.

Forecasts include “36-48 hours of a nearly continuous pounding of the area,”

H or NH, he didn't say.
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:42 PM
November 14, 2012 2:43 PM - dibs
An erection lasting more than four hours should be reported......
November 14, 2012 2:45 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"Nearly" continuous - please read carefully. That's between 9 and 12 "sessions!"
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:46 PM
November 14, 2012 2:45 PM - CGar
"I thought you can't post over there. Congratulations!"

I realize it's all about YOU, but if you'd read my posts and paid any attention to me at all you'd know that I'm flooded out of my office and working remotely for 4-6 months and I can log in from home, MORON. Oh, and fuck you, rf!!
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:45 PM
November 14, 2012 2:45 PM - CGar
dave, I said my peace in the HOTD thread. Will prolly be banned for my references to riff raff and rabble.
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:45 PM
November 14, 2012 2:46 PM - petebklyn
this last erection went on for years. obama came out on top and romney on bottom.
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:46 PM
November 14, 2012 2:46 PM - rf
I know you are working from home. And fuck you too!
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:46 PM
November 14, 2012 2:47 PM - dibs
"my references to riff raff and rabble."

Code for rf and Cobble???????????
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:47 PM
November 14, 2012 2:48 PM - rf
Rumour? (from your comment over there.)3 Are you channeling Chicken? Or Arkady?
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:48 PM
November 14, 2012 2:48 PM - dibs
I'm all discombobulated today. I keep thinking it's time to leave the office, beat the rush and get home but I have to stay here until 6:30 when Xing arrives to go to dinner.
November 14, 2012 2:50 PM - CGar
Rumour? (from your comment over there.)3 Are you channeling Chicken? Or Arkady?

Channeling Biff, a couple of his Canadian friends, PB and chicken. Arkady isn't British; she only plays British on OT.
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:50 PM
November 14, 2012 2:54 PM - dibs
Just to let you know, rf, I've left the conference.
November 14, 2012 2:55 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Latest on Petraeus: the woman who threatened the mistress (ie the Linda Tripp of this affair) was surprised to find a horde of media types outside her house. She called 911 and claimed diplomatic immunity
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:55 PM
November 14, 2012 2:56 PM - CGar
"(ie the Linda Tripp of this affair)"

Jinx, ROSY. I posted this last night. Yes, I enjoyed that, plus her claim of "inviolability".
Edited at November 14, 2012 2:56 PM
November 14, 2012 3:01 PM - Arkady
Two possible storm tracks & the lesser hit here is more probable.
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:01 PM
November 14, 2012 3:03 PM - dibs
Did I ever tell you about the french diplomat's son whom I met at Touche's Bar in Chicago in the 80s??????
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:03 PM
November 14, 2012 3:06 PM - CGar
"Did I ever tell you about the french diplomat's son . . . "

If the story ends with sex, probably.
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:06 PM
November 14, 2012 3:07 PM - CGar
"Two possible storm tracks & the lesser hit here is more probable"

You know how much I HATE being deprived of a good storm.

[Ducks for cover]
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:07 PM
November 14, 2012 3:08 PM - Arkady
I'd like moderate temps & bright sun through next Weds.
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:08 PM
November 14, 2012 3:10 PM - CGar
Yeah, well, I'd like to be 6' tall.
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:10 PM
November 14, 2012 3:14 PM - dibs
Last i heard there were only going to be showers off and on Mon night and Tuesday.
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:14 PM
November 14, 2012 3:17 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"Did I ever tell you about the french diplomat's son whom I met at Touche's Bar in Chicago in the 80s??????"

No, but I bet that bar was well-named...
November 14, 2012 3:21 PM - More4Less
it's getting predictable now - ie mkt down again. 2% mortgage rates, come on down
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:21 PM
November 14, 2012 3:21 PM - dibs
it was actually an infamous leather bar back then. First time I ever went in and vowed that I'd never go home with anyone I ever met there!!!!!
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:21 PM
November 14, 2012 3:22 PM - More4Less
congressional report blames corzine for MF Global's collapse. now, what the F are they going to do about it????
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:22 PM
November 14, 2012 3:24 PM - dibs
Well the press has already let him off the hook because he's a Democrat.
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:24 PM
November 14, 2012 3:37 PM - Deleted
"congressional report blames corzine for MF Global's collapse. now, what the F are they going to do about it????"


hopefully not job crushing regulation!!
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:37 PM
November 14, 2012 3:38 PM - Deleted
"Well the press has already let him off the hook because he's a Democrat."

and surely that's why you haven't
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:38 PM
November 14, 2012 3:38 PM - dibs
DON'T CALL ME SURELY.
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:38 PM
November 14, 2012 3:42 PM - Donatella

Nothing, M4L. There won't be criminal charges filed. The rules for collateral had been so relaxed (regarding rehypothication of funds) that even though he was irresponsible in the extreme, he won't face criminal charges. All THOSE rules are gonna change, that's for damn sure. He's running a hedge fund now. It is unbelievable how he lives on.
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:42 PM
November 14, 2012 3:54 PM - CGar
Oh, dona, you crazy leather-clad bimbo.
Edited at November 14, 2012 3:54 PM
November 14, 2012 4:23 PM - Donatella

Yeah, CGar I'm coming to pick you up on my Harley.

“When we do right, nobody remembers. When we do wrong, nobody forgets”.

Edited at November 14, 2012 4:23 PM
November 14, 2012 4:25 PM - petebklyn
we all remember dudley doright
November 14, 2012 4:26 PM - dibs
"Well-Behaved Women Seldom Make History"


Edited at November 14, 2012 4:26 PM
November 14, 2012 4:27 PM - More4Less
in WHAT's absence, Kaboom to APPL and the general mkt. skittles for all
Edited at November 14, 2012 4:27 PM
November 14, 2012 4:36 PM - petebklyn
CSCO up almost 5% today
Edited at November 14, 2012 4:36 PM
November 14, 2012 4:45 PM - More4Less
csco is a dog stock now. margins a ton thinner and competition is a ton tougher than it's glory days. it might as well pay a juicy dividend as it ain't a high growth tech company anymore
Edited at November 14, 2012 4:45 PM
November 14, 2012 4:57 PM - CGar
ugh.
Edited at November 14, 2012 4:57 PM
November 14, 2012 5:33 PM - Deleted
ugh x more
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:33 PM
November 14, 2012 5:36 PM - dibs
UGGGHHHHHHH This is the latest I've been in the office in many months.
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:36 PM
November 14, 2012 5:37 PM - dibs
It's dark out.
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:37 PM
November 14, 2012 5:38 PM - Arkady
You could've gone out to look at the Chanukah & Kwanzaa windows instead of just hanging around.
November 14, 2012 5:38 PM - dibs
BAHHHHHH HUMBUG
November 14, 2012 5:39 PM - More4Less
eat more fiber and you'll be more regular and less ugh or argh
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:38 PM
November 14, 2012 5:39 PM - Deleted
what do you do in the office that you couldn't do at iris cafe? do you have a bloomturd term?
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:39 PM
November 14, 2012 5:40 PM - dibs
I'm waiting for Xing to get here and take me to dinner.
November 14, 2012 5:41 PM - CGar
ROFLMMFAO, Arkady.

Oh, Kwanzaa Tree, Oh, Kwanzaa Tree . . .

(Oh, yeah, this is gonna be fun.)
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:41 PM
November 14, 2012 5:42 PM - CGar
Arkady, did you see that the ginormous Hanukkah Tree arrived at Rock Center today???

(Let's hope a certain two people don't walk by it tonight before or after dinner.)
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:41 PM
November 14, 2012 5:42 PM - More4Less
the old usual nooner would've put Dave on good mood mode for the day.
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:42 PM
November 14, 2012 5:43 PM - dibs
Thin ice, CGar...
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:43 PM
November 14, 2012 5:44 PM - Arkady
Take the X out of xmas.
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:44 PM
November 14, 2012 5:45 PM - dibs
I thought about doing that, m4l but after this morning's early wake up I'd be too tired at dinner.
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:45 PM
November 14, 2012 5:48 PM - dibs
May your cats eat your tinsel and run around the house with it hanging out their buttholes
Edited at November 14, 2012 5:48 PM
November 14, 2012 6:28 PM - Deleted
Rf;

Your "mutual friend" here.

Thank you for your charecterization of my thoughts as "conspiracy theory".

The fact that Petraeus is testifying does not take away from the key points, which I will repeat again:

-It simply defies credibility for the administration to state that he was under investigation by the FBI for months, and none of their senior members knew it. The head of the CIA's e-mails were being reviewed by a local office of the FBI for months, and no one in the Administration knew it until after election day? Simply unbelievable. They are not being straight with the American people.

-we still do not have an accounting of the administration's decisions leading up to Benghazi, which led to the death of 4 Americans. Why did members of the administration insist - for two weeks - that it was caused by a video?

I think these are serious issues, but if you want to continue the petty bullshit, by all means go ahead.

I also find it sad that people find that Politico article to be great. Whether you agree with General Petraeus or not, he is a man who has served his country in trying times, and I am sorry to see him leave the stage in such a manner.
Edited at November 14, 2012 6:28 PM
November 14, 2012 6:45 PM - CGar
dave's medicine cabinet and one of mine arrived from RH today. 2 days!
Edited at November 14, 2012 6:45 PM
November 14, 2012 6:58 PM - Partridge
Grrr!

Nothing to eat a home other than snow peas. Must get creative and stop on the way home for something. Hmm.
Edited at November 14, 2012 6:58 PM
November 14, 2012 7:01 PM - Arkady
Sanctimonious claptrap.
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:01 PM
November 14, 2012 7:02 PM - CGar
Go to Vinnie's on Smith and get take out.
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:02 PM
November 14, 2012 7:15 PM - Deleted
Too long. Didn't read
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:15 PM
November 14, 2012 7:15 PM - Deleted
It's hump day. PARTY!!!
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:15 PM
November 14, 2012 7:16 PM - CGar
You dint miss anything, Holmes.

Well, if no one else is eating, I'm going to order dinner now.
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:16 PM
November 14, 2012 7:17 PM - More4Less
if you had snow pea leaf, you would be golden.
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:17 PM
November 14, 2012 7:19 PM - CGar
If you had brownies, YOU would be golden.
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:18 PM
November 14, 2012 7:21 PM - CGar
For you and Mini Me, m4l:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49809022
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:21 PM
November 14, 2012 7:25 PM - CGar
Oh, boy, bad news, Arkady . . .

No more Twinkies and Wonder Bread? Will Drake's go, too? No more Devil Dogs, Coffee Cake Jr., Ring Dings, Yodels, Funny Bones? This could be bad.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/no-more-twinkies-strike-may-do-hostess-1C7073316
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:25 PM
November 14, 2012 7:26 PM - More4Less
mini-me is getting very mini-me now - now that I'm less chubby
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:26 PM
November 14, 2012 7:27 PM - More4Less
wifey is in trouble too as she likes those items too
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:27 PM
November 14, 2012 7:31 PM - BoerumHillScott
Stopped by Trader Joes after work today.
I always forget how it is only moderately insane on weeknights.
I am eating sugar snap peas now.
November 14, 2012 7:33 PM - rf
Benson, my post was in response to this from you:
quote
That well-known right-winger, Dennis Kucinich, joins the chorus demanding that General Patraeus testify in front of congress:

"Congress still doesn't know why our people in Libya were left vulnerable," Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) said on the House floor. "We still don't know why the U.S. military was not sent to their defense.

"It is of the highest importance that General Petraeus, who led the CIA at the time, be brought before Congress to testify as to what really happened in Benghazi, whether there was a security lapse or whether the administration temporized on security and stood down to mollify violent, disparate groups which have nothing in common with our nation," he said.
end quote


He is testifying. He was never not testifying. When the question was raised yesterday whether he would testify after his resignation, the White House spokesman said yesterday that if Congress wanted him to testify about Benghazi, he would testify. And today he agreed to testify.

I am always so happy when my patriotism is questioned.
Edited at November 14, 2012 7:33 PM
November 14, 2012 7:57 PM - CGar
PB, my St. Clair chicken parm is here.
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November 14, 2012 7:59 PM - rf
Our Thai food from Sushi Tatsu on Bedford and Jefferson just arrived via motorcycle. At least I assume it's motorcycle since the guy was wearing a helmet.
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November 14, 2012 8:12 PM - Deleted
He walked. Better safe than sorry
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November 14, 2012 8:14 PM - rf
No there was a 2-wheel motorized vehicle.
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November 14, 2012 8:15 PM - rf
It was a really heavy-duty helmet. They don't usually bother when they ride bikes (even the ones with the motors, but no license plate) but they have to wear helmets if they are on motorcycles.
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November 14, 2012 8:17 PM - CGar
"no one in the Administration knew it until after election day? Simply unbelievable. They are not being straight with the American people."

I bet you'd believe it if it happened under the Bush Administration. Or any Republican Administration for that matter.

I, too, am very sorry to see David Petraeus go. And I don't believe that an extramarital affair is a reason to resign (though it gets dicier when you're the chief spook and open to blackmail).
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:18 PM
November 14, 2012 8:18 PM - Donatella

I just made something awful. A chicken died in vain. I roasted a chicken breast and it came out tough and overdone.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:18 PM
November 14, 2012 8:19 PM - rf
And your mistress, who sent threatening emails to others, has classified documents in her possession?
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November 14, 2012 8:25 PM - CGar
Wow. Romney's comments rationalizing why he lost are not only offensive but show how clueless he remains.
November 14, 2012 8:25 PM - Partridge
Chicken, dusted in flour, sauteing now. Then mushrooms, SNOWPEAS in a vermouth/cream sauce with rice. Coming up in 25 minutes!
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November 14, 2012 8:27 PM - CGar
"And your mistress, who . . . has classified documents in her possession?"

I don't have a mistress (that you know of). But, if the FBI raids my email and makes it public, you'll all be sorry. And it really isn't difficult to amass 30,000 emails in 2 years.

.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:27 PM
November 14, 2012 8:27 PM - CGar
Israeli-Syrian War more likely.
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November 14, 2012 8:29 PM - More4Less
Part, been busy at the store? how's pad holding up since Sandy?
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November 14, 2012 8:30 PM - Arkady
Yeah, that Romney apologia is really off the wall. He's basically saying the same thing that the polls did, i.e. that he didn't appeal to the young, minorities & the poor but the way he rationalizes it is beyond belief.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:30 PM
November 14, 2012 8:33 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Hello from Church Avenue B/Q platform. DH doesn't know where that is.
November 14, 2012 8:33 PM - CGar
Arkady, he also said that Obama used the old Democratic playbook to woo the same old Democratic constituents. And in what old playbook did Romney find the white, rich and religious, rural men to woo?
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:33 PM
November 14, 2012 8:33 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I just made a quick fake matzoh brei for dinner, as only a fake jew can. ; )
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:33 PM
November 14, 2012 8:34 PM - CGar
And DH prolly doesn't care.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:34 PM
November 14, 2012 8:35 PM - Donatella

rf, from what I have read, Petraeus didn't give those documents to her; she got them on her own and they were on her computer. There wasn't any breach of security for which Petraeus was responsible. It seems that he was told by the Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, that he should quit.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:35 PM
November 14, 2012 8:36 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"that he didn't appeal to the young, minorities & the poor but the way he rationalizes it is beyond belief."

I just read some of that. He's too much. Seriously.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:36 PM
November 14, 2012 8:37 PM - CGar
Yeah, no way that Mark Rothko was worth $75 million. As PT Barnum said, there is a sucker born every minute (nh).
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:37 PM
November 14, 2012 8:38 PM - Partridge
Busy(ish) at the store, M4L. All good here at home too. No new damage.

Meeting with developer to negotiate settlement has been postponed several times but is now scheduled for this Friday. We will know a lot more after that meeting. Still waiting to close on my Shore Road apartment. Postponed too, because of storm. Still need to empty stuff from there. Ugh! My brother will come to my rescue.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:37 PM
November 14, 2012 8:38 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Two b trains on the local track, but going express. Haven't seen a q yet.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:38 PM
November 14, 2012 8:39 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Now a q passed by on the express track without stopping.
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November 14, 2012 8:40 PM - petebklyn
certainly under J Edgar Hoover - no administration would ever have known what was going on. republican or democrat.
How was this Kelley person able to get the FBI involved with email issue to begin with? If I called FBI about harrassment postings on OT would the FBI look into it? No way.



Edited at November 14, 2012 8:40 PM
November 14, 2012 8:41 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oh geez, Six, the Q was actually running normally earlier this evening—about 45 minutes ago.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:41 PM
November 14, 2012 8:42 PM - Partridge
"Hello from Church Avenue B/Q platform. DH doesn't know where that is."

But he will be living there soon.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:42 PM
November 14, 2012 8:44 PM - rf
On the platform???
November 14, 2012 8:44 PM - petebklyn
From what I know about CIA and extramarital affairs - if they discover you are or had one -- you have 24 hours to let your spouse know or they will inform your spouse. And I would guess they would do some security check on the person having affair with. No firing.
In this instance - I would guess Broadwell would pass. Kelley I don't think so.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:44 PM
November 14, 2012 8:47 PM - CGar
Nfn, cobble, but I posted to you a while back about keeping your eyes open for matzo meal. Did you see it??? We're in a matzo meal crisis. Rationing will be required if fresh stores of matzo meal are not found.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:47 PM
November 14, 2012 8:48 PM - Partridge
"From what I know about CIA and extramarital affairs"

And how much experience EXACTLY do you have with either, Pete?

This is delicious!
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November 14, 2012 8:49 PM - petebklyn
somebody was terribly busy over on HOTD on that other site today. Thinking he is mr. knowitall lighting fixture critic.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:49 PM
November 14, 2012 8:50 PM - CGar
Another problem with gerrymandering: Due to gerrymandered districts, there may not be even 35 Republicans in safe districts who can vote for any tax increase as part of a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, because they would face a primary challenge from someone who is farther to the right.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:50 PM
November 14, 2012 8:51 PM - petebklyn
I was once single and perhaps 'knew' people having extramarital affairs. That was long ago. As in days of J. Edgar.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:51 PM
November 14, 2012 8:51 PM - CGar
You live in the projects. You're really in no position to comment on the Heights, Old Man.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:51 PM
November 14, 2012 8:52 PM - petebklyn
yeah, but you wouldn't have panhandles with gerrymandering.
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November 14, 2012 8:52 PM - More4Less
isn't it a hard requirement for CIA director to resign post being outed for extramarital affair?
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November 14, 2012 8:52 PM - CGar
"I was once single and perhaps 'knew' people having extramarital affairs. That was long ago. As in days of J. Edgar."

Translation = Pete had an extramarital affair with J.Edgar Hoover.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:52 PM
November 14, 2012 8:54 PM - petebklyn
he wasn't my type. perhaps his boyfriend was though.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:54 PM
November 14, 2012 8:55 PM - CGar
I'm not a big fan of Susan Rice since she was so mean to Hillary during the 2007 primaries, but I like the way Barry stood up for her.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:55 PM
November 14, 2012 8:55 PM - petebklyn
right, if a CIA head couldn't keep it clandestine -- he has no right to be in that 'position'.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:55 PM
November 14, 2012 8:55 PM - CGar
Who was his BF?
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:55 PM
November 14, 2012 8:55 PM - BoerumHillScott
yea, the gerrymandering sucks for many different reasons, not just because the GOP came out so much ahead with it this time around.
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:55 PM
November 14, 2012 8:55 PM - petebklyn
but what does that have to do with price of pita in benghazi?
Edited at November 14, 2012 8:55 PM
November 14, 2012 8:56 PM - CGar
Clyde Tolson apparently . . .

http://www.nndb.com/people/988/000110658/
November 14, 2012 8:59 PM - CGar
That's another reason, Scott. But, ironically, it's going to come back to bite them. If the House Republicans are the reason we go over the fiscal cliff, in 2 years, they'll be voted out and likely replaced by Democrats. If they vote for any package that includes a tax increase, they'll likely lose primary challenges to harder right Republicans. This is why there should ne no gerrymandering, nowhere, Democratic or Republican. There should be a logical basis for districts, like population or geography, period.

Cue benson to call me disingenuous in 3-2-1 . . . or 29 minutes.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:01 PM
November 14, 2012 9:00 PM - CGar
Arkady, by the time you get your nose out of your book and deign to chat, I'll be asleep. Jussayin.
November 14, 2012 9:02 PM - More4Less
looks like a lot of gas stations now have supply and wait is much shorter
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November 14, 2012 9:02 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"We're in a matzo meal crisis. Rationing will be required if fresh stores of matzo meal are not found."

Not for long! Plenty of matzoh meal over here, I'm sure. I'll get you some.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:02 PM
November 14, 2012 9:07 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"but what does that have to do with price of pita in benghazi?"

Snort. I'm stealing that.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:07 PM
November 14, 2012 9:08 PM - Donatella

I read something by Walter Russel Meade on the American Interest website yesterday, basically how we have a strangely confused and polarized approach to sex; on one hand, Puritanical and the other, anything goes.
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/11/11/americas-addled-puritanism/

In the course of the article, he quotes an exhortation made by his grammar school teacher "Boys, be good. If you can't be good, be clever." So applied to this case, if you are going to have an affair and play games with your wife, family, your career, at least be smart about it. Don't pick a headcase.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:08 PM
November 14, 2012 9:09 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
CGar, if benson doesn't show up, I'll be happy to call you out on your disingenui. ; )
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:09 PM
November 14, 2012 9:10 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Or is it disingenuousnesses?

Will someone please go wake Arkady up?
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:10 PM
November 14, 2012 9:14 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Well, I made it home. A very crowded Q train arrived. Two empty Q trains passed by, one in each direction, on the express tracks before that happened though.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:14 PM
November 14, 2012 9:14 PM - Donatella
one example of disingenuousness (noun) is disingenuousness and two or more are disingenuousnesses.

Ok for something real. I am hoping Eva's husband is ok. Also that Legion is making progress.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:14 PM
November 14, 2012 9:16 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Perhaps it's disingenuousities?

Sorry to hear that, Six, sounds like my commute two nights ago. Cripes!
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:16 PM
November 14, 2012 9:16 PM - dibs
Just got home from dinner. Will tell you all about ittomorrow.
November 14, 2012 9:19 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Will tell you all about ittomorrow."

Whe n hecan type, and isn't quit e sodr unk.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:19 PM
November 14, 2012 9:24 PM - sixyearsandcounting
I bet Cobble wants to hear about your dinner as much as you want to hear about her commute.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:24 PM
November 14, 2012 9:24 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Snort!
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November 14, 2012 9:25 PM - Arkady
Snort.
I think we decided to stick w/ disingenuosities/
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:25 PM
November 14, 2012 9:29 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I think we decided to stick w/ disingenuosities"

Oh thank g*d you're here. I'm somewhat partial to disingenui, Arkady.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:29 PM
November 14, 2012 9:31 PM - Partridge
Snort!
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:31 PM
November 14, 2012 9:34 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I officially have 'the cold'. I've been fighting it off for about 4-5 days, and today about 1pm it started to settle in. Fortunately, it was quiet day, and the rest of the week should be also.

I have a seriously funny work story, but I can't tell it here.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:34 PM
November 14, 2012 9:34 PM - More4Less
Dickey wins cy young award - guess Mets will be able to get more back when trading him
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:34 PM
November 14, 2012 9:35 PM - Arkady
That would end up being disingenuissimus.
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November 14, 2012 9:36 PM - lechacal
Hi
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November 14, 2012 9:37 PM - Arkady
Lech!! How're you doing?
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:37 PM
November 14, 2012 9:37 PM - dibs
Bi atch
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:37 PM
November 14, 2012 9:40 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Mor on

Hi Lech, where the hell have you been?
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November 14, 2012 9:42 PM - sixyearsandcounting
http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/things-you-will-never-see-again-in-your-life
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:42 PM
November 14, 2012 9:42 PM - Partridge
The call of the Philadelphia vireo.

Lech!!!! What up, dude?
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:42 PM
November 14, 2012 9:42 PM - More4Less
big tease.
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November 14, 2012 9:43 PM - Deleted
A church has its own train? Separation of church and state please?
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:43 PM
November 14, 2012 9:43 PM - Slopefarm
hey all,

1. Fake matzo brei? I think that's called french toast.

2. Jackal, I traveled Amtrak up the Hudson yesterday and posted haiku in your honor this morning.
November 14, 2012 9:44 PM - CGar
Fuck you, jackal. Check your fucking email accounts - plural - once in a while. I've been too busy to look up your work email addy. Glad you're alive, you PITA.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:11 PM
November 14, 2012 9:44 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"That would end up being disingenuissimus."

Fine, just tell benson to start using that, so I can use my disingenui.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:44 PM
November 14, 2012 9:44 PM - Deleted
Mr Melon is not drunk friendly. Accidentally bought a 6 dollar package of veggie "chik'n" nuggets. Bummmmmmmer.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:44 PM
November 14, 2012 9:45 PM - Deleted
Still living in NYC? I thought you were in westchester.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:45 PM
November 14, 2012 9:45 PM - lechacal
I am: 1. Alive 2. Still living in NYC 3. Not in a position where I can have my nihilistic thoughts attributed to me publicly, so don't post here any more.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:45 PM
November 14, 2012 9:46 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"2. Still living in NYC"

Huh, wha?

"1. Fake matzo brei? I think that's called french toast."

Not when you crumble up whole wheat matzoh, soak it in warm water, drain the excess, and mix that into your scrambled eggs it's not. : P
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:46 PM
November 14, 2012 9:46 PM - lechacal
I have not checked my lechacal email in a very long time.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:46 PM
November 14, 2012 9:49 PM - Donatella

Hi Lech.
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November 14, 2012 9:50 PM - rf
NYC?
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:50 PM
November 14, 2012 9:53 PM - lechacal
As opposed to Vermont or overseas again or something. Still in Irvington. My residence is where I sleep. I live in Manhattan.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:53 PM
November 14, 2012 9:54 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Hello Lech!

DH, there are THREE church avenue stations - F, B/Q, 2/5! Take that, heathen.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:54 PM
November 14, 2012 9:54 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
lech, You don't call. You don't write. Your jewish grandmothers in Brooklyn worry about you. Tell us how you are, bubbula.
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:54 PM
November 14, 2012 9:55 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"there are THREE church avenue stations - F, B/Q, 2/5! Take that, heathen."

Snort!
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:55 PM
November 14, 2012 9:55 PM - Partridge
Did you have hip(?) surgery? How are you now?
Edited at November 14, 2012 9:55 PM
November 14, 2012 9:56 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I think these companies just want to work us to death, lech.

Actually, mine really doesn't. Say, do you even know that I got a JOB?
November 14, 2012 9:58 PM - lechacal
Listening to Skrillex, drinking a Heineken and decompressing on my way back to Irvington. Ride will soon be over. It's been real.

I have a moustache now.
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November 14, 2012 9:58 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Ha - I've inspired two Cobble snorts this evening.
November 14, 2012 9:58 PM - sixyearsandcounting
70s porn star stache, Lech?
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November 14, 2012 10:00 PM - lechacal
Congratulations, cobble. I did not know that. That's great news.

Ok bye.
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November 14, 2012 10:00 PM - Deleted
Church sounds like a grand avenue
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November 14, 2012 10:00 PM - More4Less
Real reason marathon cancelled cause Lech couldn't run
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November 14, 2012 10:05 PM - More4Less
Lech drive by. Next drive by will be in another year
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November 14, 2012 10:09 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"Church sounds like a grand avenue"

If you only knew, dh, if you only knew... Lark, AM Thai, Downtown Natural, NYC ICY (alas - closed), lots and lots of Caribbean places, 99 cent stores and Bobby's Dept Store, fruit stands galore, you name it, it's there. Of course the asshats of Ditmas Park always claim it's desolate but it has far more foot traffic than Cortelyou.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:09 PM
November 14, 2012 10:17 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Desolate? People say that? Then they've clearly never been there.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:17 PM
November 14, 2012 10:18 PM - Partridge
Big news peeps with cars:

Alternate Side Parking Regulations To Be Suspended Indefinitely In Additional Storm-Damaged Neighborhoods

Regulations to be suspended indefinitely in Brooklyn Community Boards 6 and 18

Brooklyn Community Board 6 includes the neighborhoods of Red Hook, Carroll Gardens, Park Slope, Gowanus, Boerum Hill and Cobble Hill, and is delimited by New York Bay and the East River on the west, Atlantic Avenue, Court Street, Fourth Avenue, Warren and Pacific Streets on the north, Prospect Park on the east and 15th Street and the Gowanus Canal on the south.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:18 PM
November 14, 2012 10:19 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
They also have a patty store on Church, not quite as perfect as Juicy Patties, but pretty damn good patties just the same.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:21 PM
November 14, 2012 10:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Six, while we're on food...a friend of BH's is telling us there are good samosas on Church over on your side, near McDonald. Do you know the name of a good place? (I like the vegetarian potato and peas kind.)
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November 14, 2012 10:25 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Yes, Cobble, there have been comments on DP Blog about the supposed stagnation of the Church Avenue business scene - read "lack of white people." Every time I go over there, the sidewalks are practically jammed.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:24 PM
November 14, 2012 10:25 PM - Deleted
Church - samosas. Cortelyou - mimosas
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November 14, 2012 10:29 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Jackasses. The produce on Church is tremendous. I like the big asian/caribbean grocery store. They have some great stuff at really good prices there.
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November 14, 2012 10:32 PM - Partridge
Six, Cobble, I have a friend who lives on Louisa near Church. Every time I go there it is a shit-show of humanity. She uses the Church and McDonald subway station and says that every morning she has to step over sleeping drunks and dodge the people hacking up and spitting near/on her. Lovely way to start the day!
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:32 PM
November 14, 2012 10:36 PM - rf
Cobble, where is this big asian/caribbean grocery store? I am always looking for Asian stores outside of Chinatown and Queens.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:35 PM
November 14, 2012 10:36 PM - rf
Oh, and southern Sunset Park and Bensonhurst. Too far for me.
November 14, 2012 10:39 PM - Arkady
"step over sleeping drunks and dodge the people hacking up and spitting near/on her" Sounds like the W. 4th St. station in the Village.
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November 14, 2012 10:39 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I don't know the Church / McDonald station. I've only been there once when I mistakenly thought it would be a nice easy walk home, but I was carrying too much, so called a cab. The Church Q station is much better than all that. I use that station from time to time. People spit all over NYC, I don't enjoy that at all!
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:39 PM
November 14, 2012 10:41 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I think it must be at about Church and 18th, give or take a block, rf.
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November 14, 2012 10:42 PM - BoerumHillScott
If it is not upscale, it is invisible to much of the media and many people.

I remember reading an article about the Atlantic Center/Atlantic Terminal malls, and the writer mentioned that some day there could even be a place to buy groceries there. I guess the enormous Pathmark and 15 aisle food section at Target don't count.

When I lived in Houston, there was a new upscale grocery store that opened in a gentryfing neighborhood near downtown that got a lot of press for being the first grocery store in the area, ignoring a Hispanic-focused grocery store just as big a few blocks away that had been open for decades.
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November 14, 2012 10:43 PM - Partridge
Really, still, Ark? Used to be like that way back when. My friend's experience is on the street, on Church.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:43 PM
November 14, 2012 10:44 PM - Arkady
Alt. side was in effect here today. I wonder if it's really all of CB-6. Will look more closely next week.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:44 PM
November 14, 2012 10:45 PM - Arkady
The entrance by the b-ball courts can be pretty harrowing even today.
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November 14, 2012 10:48 PM - Partridge
Don't know how long it will last but...
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/pr2012/pr12_75.shtml
November 14, 2012 10:48 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
rf, (Sorry, doing 3 things at once here.) It's a small supermarket, very big produce market, that happens to have asian and caribbean stuff, and is run by asians, but is mostly frequented by blacks/caribbean peeps.
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November 14, 2012 10:49 PM - BoerumHillScott
Funny, I have never noticed anything odd at West 4th compared to any other subway station.
The last few days, I have been using it to get home after taking the PATH to 9th.

Lame transit trivia: West 4th is the only station in Manhattan to include an East/West in the name because there were plans of building a massive station at South 4th in Brooklyn, and planners did not want any confusion.
It also never had an entrance at West 4th Street.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:49 PM
November 14, 2012 10:51 PM - Partridge
True Scott. That was What's perspective on Mr. Melon.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:51 PM
November 14, 2012 10:51 PM - Arkady
Very dependent on time of day, Scott. I always laughed that there wasn't any access on W. 4th!
November 14, 2012 10:52 PM - Arkady
That sure looks as if it applies here. What I read earlier only went for Zone A.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:52 PM
November 14, 2012 10:53 PM - Deleted
I despise that whole immediate area around the West 4th St station.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:53 PM
November 14, 2012 10:55 PM - BoerumHillScott
I'm not a big fan of that area, but there is a bar nearby that I have spent a lot of time at because it is favorite hang out of of one of my good friends, and I have gone in and out of that station at various times of day and levels of soberness.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:55 PM
November 14, 2012 10:56 PM - Arkady
I won't disgust you w/ a story of one unfortunate event a friend of mine had at W. 4th. Still gives me an upset stomach to think about 30 years later!
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November 14, 2012 10:58 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"The entrance by the b-ball courts can be pretty harrowing even today."

"I despise that whole immediate area around the West 4th St station."

i.e. where I go to school most days of the week...

Part, Church & McDonald is a different ballgame from the B/Q stop - both seas of humanity, one mostly Bangladeshi and Hasid, the other mostly Caribbean.
Edited at November 14, 2012 10:58 PM
November 14, 2012 10:58 PM - RowerChick
Yea! My man bought himself something green to eat (& with no prompting from me). Meanwhile, at ladies night out tonight I had a spinach salad with figs & dates & shaved parmesan, a lentil & bulgar salad and some great brie like cheese with french bread. Oh, and an awesome veggie frittata. All I did was bring a bottle of red wine. I love my Quaker lady friends.
November 14, 2012 11:00 PM - rf
I think What is wrong about Mr. Melon. I know that part of Clinton Hill and it really needed a place with decent quality decently priced produce. As I have written before, long ago there was a fruit and veggie market run by East Asians on Fulton St. near the Clinton-Washington station but they went out of business in the early 90s. And the Met Food definitely needed some competition.
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November 14, 2012 11:02 PM - rf
And with that, ladies and gents, I am off to dreamland. I hope I get better sleep than last night--this morning I woke up feeling like I had been running all night, chased by a monster in my dreams. Not a good feeling! And I couldn't even remember the dreams.
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November 14, 2012 11:04 PM - Donatella
In Washington Heights, there is a zoning law controlling food stores. Along the main drag of W 181st St, there are no supermarkets, but there are bodegas everywhere. The rule is that there can only be one bodega per block. Some enterprising souls have created biggish bodegas buy putting bodegas on corners abutting one another, taking up two spaces and making a bigger store. The bodegas up there are pretty expensive from what I can see. Not like Mr. Melon.



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November 14, 2012 11:05 PM - Donatella

A bath in Epsom salts, rh. And a glass of wine. You'll be zzzzz'in in no time.
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November 14, 2012 11:05 PM - Partridge
I also think that there is a day laborer encampment at Church/McDonald. Some are busy tying one one before before pickup.
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November 14, 2012 11:07 PM - Donatella

What loves Mr. Melon. At first, he had a few snarky things to say about it, but he really likes it. It is cheap and really good.
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