Monday Open Thread
October 1, 2012 7:14 AM - Cobble B. Hiller

283 comments
October 1, 2012 7:46 AM - dibs
GM
#1
October 1, 2012 7:58 AM - dibs
Beuatiful pic, Cobble. Don't leave your job. You've got benefits there. As someone else said, always easier to get another job when you already have one. All of us have had to put up with unpleasant issues during our careers. It's just part of life. Your opportunity here, since you think they dumped this person on you, is to manage him/her aggressively and get out of him/her what they want. Otherwise recommend that he/she be fired.
#2
October 1, 2012 8:06 AM - BoerumHillScott
Happy morning all.

Cobble, hope things go well this week at work.
Adjusting to a new job is always tough, especially when there are difficult people to work with.

Last night, I ran by Barclays Center right around 7:00 and 8:00.
The plaza outside the arena was pretty packed, and plenty of people were walking along the sidewalks in that direction, but not so many that I could not run. Traffic seemed to be moving just a bit slower than usual, but I had no issues at all crossing Atlantic or Flatbush.

Tonight is a big milestone for me: I am having dinner at my girlfriend's parents place. At this point I am more excited to meet them than nervous.
Once again, I could not tell when the concert ended from inside my apartment.
#3
October 1, 2012 8:51 AM - Deleted
Bhs is in relationship warp speed
#4
October 1, 2012 8:55 AM - More4Less
I never resign unless I have another gig cause getting fired has severance and/or unemployment checks
#5
October 1, 2012 8:55 AM - More4Less
Damn, them birds got my G-men's number.
Edited at October 1, 2012 8:55 AM
#6
October 1, 2012 8:58 AM - Deleted
I try to hold off on the meeting of parental units for as long as possible. This last go around was pretty much forced into it. Awkward.
#7
October 1, 2012 9:00 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Moving pretty quick, Scott! Good luck!
Edited at October 1, 2012 9:00 AM
#8
October 1, 2012 9:01 AM - dibs
Yes, too bad, m4l. Bend over and take your spanking
#9
October 1, 2012 9:04 AM - More4Less
Dave, luckily, they cover the 2.5 pt spread so I'm co-leader again for the office football pool.
#10
October 1, 2012 9:06 AM - More4Less
not like the old old old days, meeting parents is not a big deal nowadays. often, it's a free meal per my experience - ie the parents treated me vs me picking up the tab
Edited at October 1, 2012 9:06 AM
#11
October 1, 2012 9:06 AM - dibs
Spreads are bullshit. Your team lost.
Edited at October 1, 2012 9:06 AM
#12
October 1, 2012 9:14 AM - Deleted
Saints game was real heartbreaker
Edited at October 1, 2012 9:14 AM
#13
October 1, 2012 9:18 AM - More4Less
0-4; couldn't believe some people picked saints to win it all this yr - idiots.
#14
October 1, 2012 9:20 AM - More4Less
dave, that's legit L on the W-L columns for the team but covering the spread meant Chinaman in position for another win in office pool for this wk - ie legit cash payout. am now tied with 2 other dudes for the lead so it comes down to tonight's game
Edited at October 1, 2012 9:20 AM
#15
October 1, 2012 9:33 AM - sixyearsandcounting
You never know, M4L. Back in the Dark Ages when I was in HS my Chargers started 0-4 but finished 11-5 and won the division.
#16
October 1, 2012 9:33 AM - dibs
Today in 1908, the first Model T rolled off the assembly line.
#17
October 1, 2012 9:36 AM - petebklyn
are you saying you remember that day fondly?
#18
October 1, 2012 9:37 AM - BoerumHillScott
I have not really done the dating thing since college, so I am sure I am totally breaking all the rules and doing it wrong.
She has met my son a number of times, so it made sense that I meet her parents, especially since she has a great relationship with them and they live only 2 blocks from me.

#19
October 1, 2012 9:38 AM - More4Less
6, winning a weak ass div is not the same as winning the trophy.
Edited at October 1, 2012 9:38 AM
#20
October 1, 2012 9:41 AM - More4Less
scott, meeting the parents ain't a big deal these guys are making it out to be. moving in together is a big ass deal
Edited at October 1, 2012 9:41 AM
#21
October 1, 2012 9:46 AM - sixyearsandcounting
M4L, we San Diego sports fans take what we can get. Name one major championship won by a San Diego team...oh wait, that's never happened.
#22
October 1, 2012 9:51 AM - Slopefarm
Meeting the parents is a big deal if you are both 23 or something. But you've been married, have a kid, etc. Bigger deal for you to learn something of what GF comes from rather than a walking on eggshells audition for you.
#23
October 1, 2012 9:54 AM - BoerumHillScott
I'm not worried or nervous at all about this evening.
I was more worried when she met the PLUSAs.
Edited at October 1, 2012 9:54 AM
#24
October 1, 2012 9:54 AM - Slopefarm
"we San Diego sports fans take what we can get. Name one major championship won by a San Diego team...oh wait, that's never happened"

Still bad karma from when the Padres had all those John Birchers on the pitching staff in the early 80s.

#25
October 1, 2012 9:56 AM - Slopefarm
"I was more worried when she met the PLUSAs."

Well, thankfully, it wasn't at a bar and some of the more worrisome PLUSAs weren't there. However, she did fit in a little too well. I'd seek couples counseling NOW, scott.
#26
October 1, 2012 9:57 AM - rf
Scott, her parents will LOVE you! I can see her thinking they love you more than they love her (although that is extremely unlikely).
#27
October 1, 2012 9:58 AM - More4Less
It was funny that father in-law asked me, after long ass engagemt, "are you going to marry my daughter?". It was funny since his daughter been living with me, bossing me around, etc forever already (felt like I married her already).
Edited at October 1, 2012 9:58 AM
#28
October 1, 2012 9:59 AM - dibs
"some of the more worrisome PLUSAs weren't there."


LOL
#29
October 1, 2012 9:59 AM - More4Less
Screw you Scott. We ain't that bad of a bunch to meet. Odd looking bunch but we're harmless
#30
October 1, 2012 10:05 AM - BoerumHillScott
When she met the PLUSAs, I was somewhat worried about all the inside jokes, along with the confusing way we go between handles and real names, but she fit right in.
Perhaps that should scare me :)
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:05 AM
#31
October 1, 2012 10:09 AM - sixyearsandcounting
LOL Slopey! That's some legit sports knowledge there. Of course those Birchers took us to the World Series in 1984, and Eric Show still holds the club record for most wins.

There was a four-game series where the Padres won three, behind Thurmond, Dravecky, and Show; they lost the fourth game and Dick Williams said something like "Well goddamn, if we'd had another Bircher we woulda swept 'em!"
#32
October 1, 2012 10:10 AM - DeLepp
Saw "The Master" yesterday. You can skip and save $14.00. Though if you enjoy great performances and "why was this movie made" wonderment, netflix it.
#33
October 1, 2012 10:13 AM - Slopefarm
6 -- I was on a softball team that summer with a bunch of people from WBAI including Lee Lowenfish, who hosted the sports show and wrote a great bio of Branch Rickey as well as a history of the reserve clause and ghost wrote the Seaver autobiography. We played the CUNY labor historians in Flushing meadows then all went to Shea to watch a Mets-Padres game and boo all the Birchers. As I recall, the Cards had a Sandinista in relief that year, too. Dennis Hernandez, I think.
#34
October 1, 2012 10:15 AM - Partridge
"some of the more worrisome PLUSAs weren't there."

Who could Slopey be talking about? MM, Bxgrl, Six, Dave, Dona, Chicken, Eton, Kens, Randolph, BedStyMaven?? Or was it DCB, Legion, Le Chacal? Biff or Bfar?
#35
October 1, 2012 10:19 AM - Slopefarm
You forgot jester, for one, Part. More the volatile mix when we meet in much larger numbers and drink more heavily. Some of the more "worrisome" PLUSAs are not really PLUSAs anymore. But being in someone's home (and away from karaoke) keeps us on good behavior. Dibs is good company (nh) in polite settings, but you wouldn't want BHS-GF's first impression of us to be his rendition of Creep.
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:19 AM
#36
October 1, 2012 10:19 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Partridge, so long as there's no crotch-grabbing, it's all good.

Slopey, only at CUNY would there be enough labor historians to field a softball team! I'm glad people thought the Padres were worth booing - usually they're just ignored out in these parts.
#37
October 1, 2012 10:20 AM - dibs
Slopey, you're lucky I'm tied up (nh) with a conference call right now.
#38
October 1, 2012 10:21 AM - Slopefarm
LOL.
#39
October 1, 2012 10:23 AM - Slopefarm
Part -- you also left rob off your list.
#40
October 1, 2012 10:27 AM - Donatella

Yes, the crotch-grabbing night will go down in the PLUSA annals as a truly memorable evening.
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:27 AM
#41
October 1, 2012 10:29 AM - Slopefarm
Some of us witnessed an unfortunate deployment of the C word at Union Hall. Also memorable.


#42
October 1, 2012 10:29 AM - Donatella

I missed that, Slopey.
#43
October 1, 2012 10:30 AM - Arkady
And let's not forget the world premiere of The Worm at Ratifico.
#44
October 1, 2012 10:31 AM - dibs
Some people are just not properly dressed either and that's sad.
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:31 AM
#45
October 1, 2012 10:33 AM - CGar
I don't know who "Eton" is, but we've never met Randolph so he can't be counted.

And if you're telling stories out of turn, there are several that you left out involving cum, notably the Duplex. And Floyd. And I think at a gathering that predated me.
#46
October 1, 2012 10:34 AM - Partridge
And no phone booth at my place, although I found an empty beer can and dirty foot prints in my shower the next day...hmm....; )
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:34 AM
#47
October 1, 2012 10:35 AM - Slopefarm
Meanwhile, for baseball fans, I highly recommend Lowenfish's Branch Rickey bio. Very interesting insights into the decision to bring in Jackie Robinson, a very interesting mix of seeking a business advantage and acting out of a sense of moral obligation. And, I'll note, Branch Rickey was a republican, Lowenfish is decidedly not but is faithful in the book to portraying Rickey's politics.

http://www.amazon.com/Branch-Rickey-Baseballs-Ferocious-Gentleman/dp/0803224532
#48
October 1, 2012 10:35 AM - More4Less
Have to say the C word has to be the top of list. I recall thinking I'll have to fight to defend his ass from getting whooped. The girl and bf/male friend were pretty steamed. Then it turned comical when the girl approached biff to complain about the incident - biff looked like the ring leader
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:35 AM
#49
October 1, 2012 10:36 AM - More4Less
Must be Pete going into the shower - he was drooling over your pad
#50
October 1, 2012 10:36 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Wow, looks like I missed a lot during my two years in DC! I was there for the crotch-grabbing night but left before any crotches were grabbed.
#51
October 1, 2012 10:37 AM - dibs
I had a dinner guest last night and she was made ro watch the beginning moments of The Good Wife after dinner. It was very difficult explaining to her the subtleties surrounding a TV show.
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:37 AM
#52
October 1, 2012 10:37 AM - Slopefarm
m4l -- jester forfeited a joint defense when he uttered that word. I would not have defended him in a fight. He would have deserved what he got.
#53
October 1, 2012 10:38 AM - CGar
"Then it turned comical when the girl approached biff to complain about the incident - biff looked like the ring leader"

Well, he is President. But, in fairness to Biff, he was the one who had established a relationship with the owners of U-Haul, Pink Floyd and Bell Jar, and got us reserved spaces, and got us drink discounts, so it made him look particularly bad when one of our group misbehaved so badly and almost got all of us kicked out.
#54
October 1, 2012 10:39 AM - CGar
I'm sorry, but I think throwing the cum rag at the piano player at the Duplex trumps the C-word at U-Haul.
#55
October 1, 2012 10:40 AM - CGar
"I had a dinner guest last night"

Who would that be? And what did you make for dinner???
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:40 AM
#56
October 1, 2012 10:40 AM - Arkady
But it was fascinating to see moving, talking pictures just hanging on a wall!!
#57
October 1, 2012 10:41 AM - More4Less
Slopey, that's not how I roll. He should not have said it and apologized but I wasn't going to let him get his ass whooped for it. If he was a stranger, I would've just watched the beat down but I knew the dude so wasn't going to just let it happen.
#58
October 1, 2012 10:41 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Is there a bar called U-Haul, or were you all at the actual U-Haul helping someone move?
#59
October 1, 2012 10:42 AM - CGar
^^^I invited you to watch the debate. And help me unpack whilst watching the debate. :-)
#60
October 1, 2012 10:43 AM - Partridge
Oh, what I've missed! And I've always thought you all to be a refined, classy bunch.
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:43 AM
#61
October 1, 2012 10:44 AM - Donatella

I heard Master was bad. Even if it was a good movie, Scientology really creeps me out.

There are a couple of movies I want to see - Bill Murray playing FDR in Hyde Park on the Hudson and a new Bond movie. I seem to remember another historical movie coming out from watching the news but can't remember what it is.
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:44 AM
#62
October 1, 2012 10:45 AM - Arkady
I may take you up on that, CG. What are you serving for dinner? (Hint: there's an Indian take-out not far from you: in The Heights, though, not Cobble Hill.
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:45 AM
#63
October 1, 2012 10:46 AM - More4Less
I recall Etson, Delepp, and I were laughing when the girl complained to biff who at the time didn't know what the F happened and why she talking to him about it.
#64
October 1, 2012 10:47 AM - Arkady
Lemony Snicket has a new book coming out.
#65
October 1, 2012 10:48 AM - More4Less
I miss little India on court opposite trader joes.
#66
October 1, 2012 10:48 AM - Donatella

I didn't actually witness the Duplex interchange with the bartender, only heard about it afterward. I was there having a very lovely time at my first PLUSA gathering and when I heard about it was sort of amazed.
#67
October 1, 2012 10:48 AM - Slopefarm
I wasn't there but I would agree with CGar @ 10:39.

I disagree, m4l -- chivalry trumps fraternal loyalty when you barely know the guy from a blog and he says something like that.
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:48 AM
#68
October 1, 2012 10:49 AM - Slopefarm
"Oh, what I've missed! And I've always thought you all to be a refined, classy bunch."

We cleaned up for you, LP.

Edited at October 1, 2012 10:49 AM
#69
October 1, 2012 10:54 AM - Donatella

Speaking of creepy movies, I watched two mummy movies last night - Boris Karloff in some mummy movie and then a Charlie Chan movie about a murder among mummies. This was not my idea.

The Charlie Chan movie came out in 1937. It was stunning to watch this movie full of sexual and cultural stereotypes. The heroine was the delicate thing with a chronic case of the vapors, Charlie Chan (really a Swede) speaking in super polite pidgin English (prototype for Columbo I think) and the most amazing, the portrayal of "Snowshoe", the black servant/driver, who embodied every negative stereotype for "Negros" ever. bf and I were talking about how the movie came at a midpoint between the freeing of the slaves and the current day.
#70
October 1, 2012 10:54 AM - More4Less
Slopey, we cut from diff clothe but don't worry I'll back you up if you face a beat down at a future gathering - unless it's via CGar as he my brownie supplier and I would have to join in if he asks for help (brownies are priority 1)
#71
October 1, 2012 10:55 AM - Deleted
Miss jester. He was def a wildcard.
#72
October 1, 2012 10:55 AM - CGar
^^^Or, alternatively, you could have one of your 7 television sets hooked up. As I recall, you have one hanging on the wall yourself.
#73
October 1, 2012 10:56 AM - Deleted
I've gotten the feeling a few times that jester = kazoo. But I'm paranoid v
#74
October 1, 2012 10:57 AM - CGar
I'm paranoid, too, DH. I've had that same thought about someone else who used to post.

And, lmfao, BW.
#75
October 1, 2012 10:59 AM - dibs
She wanted to curry favor with me and watch the debates here. i was going to have naan of her left wing crap
Edited at October 1, 2012 10:59 AM
#76
October 1, 2012 11:00 AM - Donatella

I just googled the movie and the black actor was Stepin Fetchit. I heard about him but that was my intro. What an act.
#77
October 1, 2012 11:00 AM - BoerumHillScott
I've gotten some very nice e-mails from kazoo, don't see any relationship with Jester or any other poster.
#78
October 1, 2012 11:01 AM - Slopefarm
Dona -- No "Abbott & Costello Meet the Mummy"? Same awful stereotyping, much funnier.
Edited at October 1, 2012 11:01 AM
#79
October 1, 2012 11:02 AM - More4Less
I miss having a good paella place here in LES. the kid loves seafood paella and I used to get it frequently but haven't since the move. Need to make it my mission to find a good spot asap
Edited at October 1, 2012 11:02 AM
#80
October 1, 2012 11:03 AM - Donatella

Slopey, that movie came on after those other two. I like movies, but not like bf. He would have watched that too, but I was burnt out on mummy movies by the time they were playing Abbot and Costello. I used to love them, btw.
#81
October 1, 2012 11:03 AM - Deleted
Gotcha Scott. Just my paranoia at play for sure.
#82
October 1, 2012 11:03 AM - Donatella
It was Mummy Night on TCM.
#83
October 1, 2012 11:03 AM - Slopefarm
Your such a dal, dave (nh).

m4l -- I would expect you to back me up (nh) because I would never say something that would forfeit that. JEster demonstrated that there are things you can say or do that forfeit all herd loyalty defense.
#84
October 1, 2012 11:05 AM - DeLepp
"Lemony Snicket has a new book coming out."

Terrific, will need it after "Wiseblood".

.
#85
October 1, 2012 11:05 AM - Donatella

There are some people who simply should NOT drink.
#86
October 1, 2012 11:08 AM - DeLepp
dona, the main damsdel in distress in the 8PM sounded like mary astor in "palm beach story". Had to look up to confirm it was not her.
Edited at October 1, 2012 11:08 AM
#87
October 1, 2012 11:08 AM - More4Less
I know I shouldn't drink all that beer / empty calories while I'm trying to lose weight but please understand, this is still football season
Edited at October 1, 2012 11:08 AM
#88
October 1, 2012 11:12 AM - Donatella

oh yeah, delepp, that was some act in the 8pm. That was actually WAY better than the Charlie Chan movie.
Edited at October 1, 2012 11:12 AM
#89
October 1, 2012 11:14 AM - rf
M4L, where did you get paella in Brooklyn? My friend in your building, who grew up in the neighborhood and is Puerto Rican, likes the place on Grand St. just east of where East Broadway ends.
#90
October 1, 2012 11:21 AM - CGar
And then there's Maude . . .
Edited at October 1, 2012 11:21 AM
#91
October 1, 2012 11:24 AM - More4Less
rf, mojito on washington ave (btwn flushing & park ave). I used to call it in once I enter the holland tunnel and by the time I pick up the kid, drive over, it was ready for pick up. the kid shares everyone but not so much when it comes to seafood paella.

I think I know which one you're talking about. think it has red awning. I'll stroll by there later.
#92
October 1, 2012 11:25 AM - More4Less
I love west village. if I could afford it, I would live there - top choice.
Edited at October 1, 2012 11:25 AM
#93
October 1, 2012 11:28 AM - dibs
When I lived in Midtown East, I had more access to talent.
#94
October 1, 2012 11:31 AM - bxgrl
Talk about missing old neighborhoods- I do miss Brooklyn!!!! But I love troy. MM and I spent yesterday shoring up the floor for her bathroom. Once we finish that we are laying the cement board and greenboard. I was on the ladder, sistering part of the beam in the basement,when I look up and her cat is practically hanging down the hole in the floor, talking to me. Cheezer is a very funny cat.
#95
October 1, 2012 11:37 AM - dibs
New figures out. 51% of the US population is on government support that doesn't include Medicare or Social Security. romney doesn't have a chance. More importantly, theis is a very sad state of affairs for the US; economically, fiscally, politically and socially.
#96
October 1, 2012 11:46 AM - Arkady
I lived in the West Village for years but sold to move here. Wouldn't like to go back - demographics & atmosphere aren't good at all now. No magical little shops, just upscale & catalogue franchise. Some pretty blocks but no warmth of spirit.
Edited at October 1, 2012 11:46 AM
#97
October 1, 2012 11:49 AM - dibs
WV is really pretty skanky along the bigger avenues. Christopher St is just a lot of dreck. The Path train brings in all the Jersey scum too.
#98
October 1, 2012 11:52 AM - rf
M4L, it's El Castillo de Jagua II, 521 Grand St. (I just looked on Google street view.)
Edited at October 1, 2012 11:52 AM
#99
October 1, 2012 11:53 AM - MontroseMorris
Stepin Fetchit got a lot of grief from the black community, especially in the 1970's. So did anyone else who played a servant, mammy, etc. But realistically speaking, they were working actors at a time when that was all they could get, and they didn't write the scripts, or have any input in how they could portray their characters. I've read that almost all of them donated much of their money to proto-civil rights causes, and tried to get Hollywood to do better than what they were doing, and were certainly making a better living than those who were really servants at the time. Sometimes you can't judge by today's standards. (Not saying you were, Dona.)

That said, it's pretty painful to watch.
October 1, 2012 11:54 AM - dibs
Very similar to how the Irish were always portrayed. :)
October 1, 2012 11:56 AM - Slopefarm
MM -- I was just reading a book on the 1967 Oscar nominees -- Pictures at a Revolution -- and it makes the same point about Isabelle Sanford (aka "Weezy" Jefferson) in her role as the maid for Hepburn & Tracey in Guess Who's Coming to Dinner. She had lots of eye-rolling and lines like (and this is a paraphrase from memory): "I'm all for civil rights but this here's something else."
October 1, 2012 11:57 AM - More4Less
rf, yep, that's the one I was think of
Edited at October 1, 2012 11:57 AM
October 1, 2012 12:01 PM - dibs
Bernanke speaking in Ohio at 12:30.
Edited at October 1, 2012 12:01 PM
October 1, 2012 12:03 PM - DeadCatBounce
There is an entitlement culture that has taken hold and of course the only way to pay for all the handouts is through ever greater debt.
In the long run, this is a road to disaster.
This country needs to find a more balanced approach desperately.
October 1, 2012 12:05 PM - Donatella


MM and Bxgrl, you impress the hell out of me - sistering joists!! Who knew??????
Edited at October 1, 2012 12:05 PM
October 1, 2012 12:12 PM - rf
Bxgrl and MM--wow!
Edited at October 1, 2012 12:12 PM
October 1, 2012 12:16 PM - Slopefarm
Yes, mm&bx, what dona and rf said!!!!!!
October 1, 2012 12:17 PM - dibs
I'd like to see a pic and a list of materials used in the sistering job before I heap kudos on them. Just sayin.
October 1, 2012 12:18 PM - Donatella

I really don't see that as the overweening issue of our times, D-Cat. True, we need to figure out Medicare. It is a system which is ridiculously inefficient and wasteful. That we really need to come to terms with. Medicare will pay for anything. And at insane prices. My father has a heart condition; he'll be 90 in a few months. Two years ago his cardiac surgeon was suggesting a quadruple bypass. How insane is that?

First of all, we knew the guy would probably not survive the rehab. So in the end, he got a couple of stents and he is doing ok. But they will give knee replacements to people with advanced Altzheimer's who can't do the rehab. There are all sorts of end of life insane expenditures that need to be reexamined. Medicare will pay for anything and will test 4 times for the same thing, depending on how many doctors the person sees.

So yeah, we need to get a handle on that and costs and extend retirement age, but more importantly we need to come to terms with structural changes in our economy and really make changes to encourage job growth and entrepreneurial effort. How about allowing for more American-educated immigrants to bring their talent to work where they got educated. The Patriot Act has made immigration here of well educated (often American educated) people to start businesses and to encourage their creativity here. And re entitlement, I think that we need to make it easier for everyone to get more education and the right kind of education.

That being said, that whole Romney rant (probably for the benefit of his self-congratulatory audience) about the 47% pissed me off.
Edited at October 1, 2012 12:18 PM
October 1, 2012 12:21 PM - dibs
" Medicare will pay for anything. And at insane prices. "

Absolutely false. Though the system is fraugt with waste and ineptness (as you point out), the prices per procedure reimbursed to MDs is quite low. I'd truly hate to be an MD in this environment as more and more of the population moves to Medicare.

I learned the facts and figures from the other couple we travelled with in Italy. They own a fairly large physician billing service company.
Edited at October 1, 2012 12:22 PM
October 1, 2012 12:23 PM - More4Less
if I knew they had these skillz, I would've hired them to fix my crown pad and it would be done already.
Edited at October 1, 2012 12:23 PM
October 1, 2012 12:25 PM - MontroseMorris
Necessity is the mother of doing it yourself. If we had buckets of bucks, I'd be sitting back directing workmen. That said, it's very interesting to see how the house was put together, and what happened to it over the last 100 years. This place is in general, solid as a rock. Water damage, unfortunately, is inevitable, and the house has suffered from deferred care. When the ceilings needed work, they dropped them, instead of fixing them. That kind of thing.
October 1, 2012 12:25 PM - MontroseMorris
Shut up, Dave. : )
Edited at October 1, 2012 12:25 PM
October 1, 2012 12:27 PM - dibs
I have no use for old Trojans and whatever they may be spewing.
Edited at October 1, 2012 12:28 PM
October 1, 2012 12:34 PM - bxgrl
Oh dave? Have you had trouble with your condoms leaking?
October 1, 2012 12:36 PM - Arkady
There's a Gran Castillo de Jagua on Flatbush at Carlton too. Ex-bf loved it.
Edited at October 1, 2012 12:36 PM
October 1, 2012 12:36 PM - dibs
that's why I harp on not buying them in new construction.
Edited at October 1, 2012 12:36 PM
October 1, 2012 12:42 PM - Donatella

l learned the facts by several years of witnessing the fee for service system in caring for my elderly parents. The system is screamingly inefficient and the fee for service model rewards doctors for surgery and operations. Which are expensive. Very expensive. And some extremely high percentage of a person's life long medical costs (and overall Medicare costs) are in the last year of life. And many of these services are of questionable value. Both the Ryan plan and what Obama attempted to do is to begin to deal with these issues and the end of life medical care issues. We can't be paying for a 90 year old man to get a quadruple by-pass. How much do you think that costs? Obama attempted to write "end of life care" discussions for Medicare into the Health Care Act and the demogoguette, Sarah Palin, started carrying on about "death panels". Ryan's plan attempts to deal with these issues by shifting the pesky end of life issues by shifting them to insurance companies.

This is a major element of the entitlements which have to be dealt with intelligently.
October 1, 2012 1:02 PM - Donatella


ok, major thread killer.

What did you use to sister the joists, MM and Bxgrl?
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:02 PM
October 1, 2012 1:07 PM - rf
Donatella, I agree, and Dave, I agree with you too. Instead of approaching the Medicaid problem rationally, by deciding or evaluating what kinds of treatment make sense at different ages and conditions of seniors, cost-cutting takes the form of wholesale cuts in reimbursement. So the only way doctors and hospitals can make enough money to treat seniors is to pile up treatments and tests. It's really crazy.

Donatella, I am going through this with my dad right now. I insisted on a second opinion for my dad--we were sent by the pain doctor to a hotshot orthopedic surgeon who said he would operate without any discussion whatsoever of the risks involved. This week we are seeing a neurosurgeon who does the same kind of surgery. Now of course he is 89 years old and maybe it's crazy to consider surgery to chip away at a few vertebrae so they don't rub on his spinal cord. But he is in constant pain and can hardly walk anymore and it's getting worse. Aside from this problem, he's in pretty good shape and even with it, he lives independently, shops and cooks and cares for his wife. So is he worth the cost and risks of this surgery? I'll keep you posted.
October 1, 2012 1:08 PM - MontroseMorris
Mostly cuts of 2x4's, but after the plumbing work is done, we plan on going back and doing more. Don't want to put up something that the plumbers are going to have to remove. Laying new subfloor where the old rotted out, and then laying cement board today. It's really not that difficult, the hardest part is getting it even and leveled, and making sure it's anchored securely. Hey, if men can do it......
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October 1, 2012 1:10 PM - dibs
Just had a long phone conversation with MacD. Most of you don't know her. She lives on MacDonough St. near me and she was at the original meet up at U-Haul.
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:14 PM
October 1, 2012 1:10 PM - Slopefarm
Not a threadkiller between 12:30-2, dona. And I agree -- the major cost issues are not in routine doctor office visits but in end of life care. So many factors. In my MIL's case, it was difficult to know when to give up the fight, but the surgeons were less ready than her primary care physician and the nurses who cared for her. Modern medicine can sustain people in all sorts of medical purgatory and at great expense.
October 1, 2012 1:13 PM - Slopefarm
Tough call, rf. I'd be wary if intubation is required as part of the surgery, though (and if it is, explore whether there's a way around it). We found out that a seemeingly robust elder can have all kinds of difficulty weaning from it after the fact.
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:21 PM
October 1, 2012 1:13 PM - dibs
Actually, the loss of one or two joists around a toilet aren't much of a structural issue at all. Unfortunately they need to be somewhat repaired in order to get a flat and level floor so your tiles don't all crack 6 months later. And the use of penny tiles 1) makes the tiling job a lot easier and 2) is far more forgiving for uneven floors. And thwy look great in a period building.
October 1, 2012 1:13 PM - rf
Arkady, I'm not sure but I think the Castillos de Jaguas in Brooklyn and Manhattan are like the various Ray's Pizzas. The original Castillo de Jagua is a castle-fortress in Cuba. But these restaurants appear to be owned by Dominicans. Maybe Cuban-Dominicans?

El Castillo De Jagua I connected to number II in M4L's new neighborhood is on Rivington St.
October 1, 2012 1:18 PM - rf
A year ago in June, he did spectacularly well after hip replacement surgery. He was in the hospital for a week, in rehab for 2 weeks, and fully recovered within a few weeks afterward.

But he did have an extremely scary episode of post-operative psychosis--hallucinating like crazy for a couple of days. He was so upset that people couldn't see what he was seeing that he developed an arrhythmia. A dose of Haldol finally took care of it. He's had no heart issues before or since.
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:18 PM
October 1, 2012 1:19 PM - Arkady
That's true even for relatively healthy 37-yr-olds, Slopes.
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:19 PM
October 1, 2012 1:21 PM - Slopefarm
That wouldn't surprise me, arkady.
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:21 PM
October 1, 2012 1:25 PM - Donatella

It becomes difficult to make these decisions, but surgeons are paid to do surgery, not to look at the holistic gestalt of an oldster's life. That is why the gerontologist is so important. They are the lower paid professionals in the constellation of medical professionals, but these are the people who should be able to see the bigger picture. In the end, my father who has some common sense, the gerontologist, the cardiologist (not the surgeon) and we kids weighed in on the issue of heart surgery and my father decided against it.

The key philosophical issue I think is that a very old person is not going to be young again. Decisions for a 50 year old man are really different re heart disease. And in many cases, the decision for a very old person is what will give them the most comfort and ease and independence, not what will fix their hearts or whatever to make them young again.

Re surgery, sometimes recovering from the anesthesia can take a year for an old person and it is not unusual for an old person to suffer anesthesia-induced dementia.
October 1, 2012 1:30 PM - Donatella
oh rf, I didn't read what you wrote about post-surgical hallucinations. THat is common. My father had some surgery (about 7 years ago - also heart related to fix aneurysm - my father hallucinated and gave a couple of doctors a run for their money. My friend's father - same thing. He was punching at doctors. He imagined that they were trying to hurt a nurse and he was protecting her.
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:30 PM
October 1, 2012 1:32 PM - Slopefarm
"It becomes difficult to make these decisions, but surgeons are paid to do surgery, not to look at the holistic gestalt of an oldster's life. That is why the gerontologist is so important. They are the lower paid professionals in the constellation of medical professionals, but these are the people who should be able to see the bigger picture."

I could not agree more.
October 1, 2012 1:38 PM - Arkady
Many people of all ages have hallucinations induced by morphine & other painkillers as well as some antibiotics.
October 1, 2012 1:39 PM - dibs
Higher levels of dementia do explain some of the increased support for Obama.
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:39 PM
October 1, 2012 1:40 PM - MontroseMorris
My father also had post op hallucinations and dementia after having a leg amputated 10 years after heart surgery. He only developed diabetes after his heart attack, and eventually had to have both legs amputated. The dementia went away after a few days, but in some ways was scarier than all of the surgery. He didn't recognize us, and would just start talking pure nonsense about some topic that was only in his mind. It was heartbreaking.
October 1, 2012 1:41 PM - rf
Dave, how about all those Tea Party seniors who wanted the government to stay the hell out of their Medicare?
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:41 PM
October 1, 2012 1:42 PM - MontroseMorris
Full and complete mental failure explains anyone supporting Romney/Ryan.
October 1, 2012 1:43 PM - Slope4Eva
My Uncle's doctor wants to get him Hospice care (cancer). Hospice arrived and my uncle threw her out. He found out that once you receive hospice care, you lose Medicare on future treatment. I don't know if that's true or not. My uncle is now going to LI every two weeks, or there abouts, and is getting some pill to treat the cancer. It seemed to help at first, but personally, I think it was psychological, but what I think doesn't matter.

I had asked Legion if he heard of this treatment from Germany, and he was not familiar with it. But its being paid for by Medicare.

We grew up with this group of cousins, and sadly, they are split on this decision.
October 1, 2012 1:43 PM - dibs
Both parties have clearly stated that they won't touch medicare for anyone 50+ years old. Only the Republicans, as a whole, understand that changes to it have to be made in order for it to survive. Democrats largely ignore the factual, mathematical data.
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:43 PM
October 1, 2012 1:45 PM - dibs
Great comeback, MM. You're no longer as sharp and quick as you used to be. Troy to think before you speak.
October 1, 2012 1:53 PM - BoerumHillScott
I think the Medicare Hospice rule used to be that once you received Hospice care once, Medicare would not pay for additional Hospice care in the future. That was changed 10+ years ago.

The rule is also that you can not get Hospice care and treament for the terminal condition at the same time, but you can stop Hospice care and go back to treatment at any time.

There is obviously a lack of education and communication regarding treatment and coverage options out there. I think this is part of the larger problem that has already been mentioned regarding the need for professionals who can see the bigger picture.
October 1, 2012 1:54 PM - dibs
Did anyone watch 666 Park Avenue last night??? Not impressed.
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:54 PM
October 1, 2012 1:56 PM - rf
Slopey, Brooklyn Tech tours:
http://bths.edu/apps/news/show_news.jsp?REC_ID=250409&id=35
Edited at October 1, 2012 1:56 PM
October 1, 2012 2:00 PM - Slope4Eva
Could be, Scott. I really don't know. There is a perfect example of lack of education/communication. Or, it could just be my aunt has everything mixed up when she calls my mother.
Edited at October 1, 2012 2:00 PM
October 1, 2012 2:01 PM - Slope4Eva
My husband liked it Dave. If its supernatural stuff, I won't care for it.
October 1, 2012 2:02 PM - BoerumHillScott
I have heard that you need to be a big "Lost" fan to like "666 Park"
Edited at October 1, 2012 2:02 PM
October 1, 2012 2:06 PM - dibs
Seems like a modern, NYC version of Dark Shadows or something.
October 1, 2012 2:09 PM - Slope4Eva
I was enjoying Last Resort, until the final scene. If it takes that turn, I won't like it. Sorry to be vague, but I don't want to ruin it for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
October 1, 2012 2:13 PM - dibs
I'll probably watch more of Last Rersort. The Good Wife last night was, of course, fantastic.
October 1, 2012 2:15 PM - Slope4Eva
I love The Good Wife. I catch it On Demand due to the football games. I have to see if last night's is on yet.
October 1, 2012 2:15 PM - Arkady
I thought the dinner was great, the postprandial entertainment not so...
Edited at October 1, 2012 2:15 PM
October 1, 2012 2:17 PM - dibs
And maybe if you agreed to some dessert you'd be sweeter and less grouchy.
Edited at October 1, 2012 2:19 PM
October 1, 2012 2:17 PM - dibs
I think you were hallucinating when you saw all those bright colors and movement on the "wall machine."
Edited at October 1, 2012 2:17 PM
October 1, 2012 2:21 PM - MontroseMorris
Dave:
October 1, 2012 2:22 PM - Arkady
I thought I was at Hogwarts.
October 1, 2012 2:22 PM - Arkady
And a little Italian choc was a great sweetener!
October 1, 2012 2:26 PM - dibs
Hey....
Edited at October 1, 2012 2:26 PM
October 1, 2012 2:28 PM - CGar
Ugh. Stopped in for a second while wolfing down lunch and the lot of you are giving me vasovagal reactions.
October 1, 2012 2:29 PM - dibs
When did you have a sex change operation????
Edited at October 1, 2012 2:29 PM
October 1, 2012 2:31 PM - MontroseMorris
Yeah?
October 1, 2012 2:32 PM - Slopefarm
LOL, MM & Dave. Yeah, let's just leave the people out of it and let the lolcats decide the election (not to mention debate in lieu of the actual candidates).

rf-- saw that at 12:30 today. They won't take my call til tomorrow. Called Midwood. They are not taking calls to sign up for tours until 10/9 but apparently booked completely a bunch of unadvertised tours a week or so earlier. So people were allowed to call before they were told they could casll but now they can't call til next week. They explained all of this very nicely on the phone and there is no point in arguing ("what's your daughter's name again?" -- not falling for that one).
October 1, 2012 2:33 PM - dibs
Whatever....
October 1, 2012 2:33 PM - CGar
"postprandial"

Can't you just say after dinner?!?!?!?!?

Pompous. P O M P O U S. Pompous.
October 1, 2012 2:37 PM - MontroseMorris
Ok, gotta go, but leaving Dave with this: just change "her" for "him".
Edited at October 1, 2012 2:38 PM
October 1, 2012 2:37 PM - bxgrl
Many times it's a much easier conversation to have about end of life issues until they are right upon ou. I had to make those decisions for my mother and as much as I believe that you should never give up, that final night, I had to do so. It sent me into such a tailspin I developed a psychosomatic backache that put me in bed for over 2 months. I could barely walk. Finally a year of grief therapy got me through. So these conversations make me so uncomfortable. Either that or I have sympathy pains for my ehubby.
Edited at October 1, 2012 2:37 PM
October 1, 2012 2:45 PM - Slopefarm
Re: P O M P O U S

Arkady: Well, I was, uh, sitting in the public library on Thurmon Street just now, skimming through 'Rogue Herrys' by Hugh Walpole, and I suddenly came over all peckish.
CGar: Peckish, ma'am?
Arkady: Esuriant.
CGar: Eh?
Arkady: Ee, I were all 'ungry-like!
CGar: Ah, hungry!
Arkady: In a nutshell. And I thought to myself, 'a little fermented curd will do the trick', so, I curtailed my Walpoling activites, sallied forth, and infiltrated your place of purveyance to negotiate the vending of some cheesy comestibles!
CGar: Come again?
Arkady: I want to buy some cheese.
October 1, 2012 2:50 PM - CGar
Slopey, I see you've tried to have a conversation with Arkady. So, you know what it's like to have to carry a dictionary with you every time you see her.
October 1, 2012 2:51 PM - Arkady
Whey to go, Slopes!
October 1, 2012 2:56 PM - CGar
You two pompous asses deserve each other.
October 1, 2012 2:58 PM - dibs
There's a lot of that faux intellectualism in Park Slope.
Edited at October 1, 2012 2:58 PM
October 1, 2012 2:59 PM - Slopefarm
Someone 'splain to arkady that my post is taken from a television show. A British one, no less.
October 1, 2012 3:00 PM - Slopefarm
And just what kind of real intellectual discussions were you having at your ghetto house, dibs?
October 1, 2012 3:03 PM - Arkady
I thought it was a send-up of G.B.Pshaw, Slopey!
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:03 PM
October 1, 2012 3:03 PM - CGar
Even I could tell that was British, Slopey. You're such a suck-up. What's next? Offering to close her cement pond for the season???
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:03 PM
October 1, 2012 3:03 PM - dibs
I wasn't foolish enough to believe that words were even necessary most of the time. Remember, opening your mouth isn't always done for something to come out!!!
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:03 PM
October 1, 2012 3:06 PM - CGar
"opening your mouth isn't always done for something to come out!!!"

What ever do you mean, dave??? Won't you explain, please??? Inquiring minds want to know.
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:06 PM
October 1, 2012 3:09 PM - Donatella

Bxgrl, I hear you. I saw my cousins go through it. We have been through a lot with my parents and pretty much know how they feel, but that's not the same as being there.
October 1, 2012 3:10 PM - Partridge
English Bullshit
October 1, 2012 3:11 PM - DeLepp
With all the health care proxies I'm on I feel like DeDoom.
October 1, 2012 3:12 PM - Slopefarm
You have a Wilde imagination, arkady.
October 1, 2012 3:17 PM - Arkady
Just reJoyceing in your Wordsworth, Slopey.
October 1, 2012 3:17 PM - CGar
Times like this you scare the Dickens outta me, Slappy.
October 1, 2012 3:18 PM - CGar
Hey, Bimbo. No columns today???
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:18 PM
October 1, 2012 3:19 PM - Arkady
But he brings home the Bacon, CG!
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:19 PM
October 1, 2012 3:21 PM - Arkady
How much Marlowe can we go?
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:21 PM
October 1, 2012 3:22 PM - dibs
Rowling over in laughter with these.
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:22 PM
October 1, 2012 3:22 PM - Slopefarm
"But he brings home the Bacon, CG!"

A Pound at a time.

[rimshot] Thank you, thank you. I'll Behan Vegas all next week.

Edited at October 1, 2012 3:22 PM
October 1, 2012 3:23 PM - Arkady
Hitch your wagon to a star, Slopey!
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:23 PM
October 1, 2012 3:23 PM - dibs
I'm waiting for Xing to get home and get his Dickens me.
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:23 PM
October 1, 2012 3:24 PM - Arkady
That was a really Swift come-back, too.
October 1, 2012 3:25 PM - Arkady
That kind of talk Burns me up, dibs.
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:25 PM
October 1, 2012 3:25 PM - dibs
Coward.
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:25 PM
October 1, 2012 3:26 PM - Slopefarm
Not another Pepys out of you, arkady.
October 1, 2012 3:26 PM - Arkady
Gotta Cook up a few Moore.
October 1, 2012 3:28 PM - dibs
I have the Forsyth to know when Moore is less.
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:29 PM
October 1, 2012 3:28 PM - More4Less
if Arkady shotguns me with all them fancy words at the same time, I'll have to resort to speaking to her in Chinese and see how much did she pick up from old bf.
October 1, 2012 3:30 PM - Arkady
Those are just a Tolkien gesture, M4L.
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:29 PM
October 1, 2012 3:31 PM - dibs
Can't you go out and Potter around the garden???
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:31 PM
October 1, 2012 3:38 PM - Slopefarm
No, apparently there's a Woolf out there.
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:38 PM
October 1, 2012 3:40 PM - Donatella
Penny for your thoughts. Or whatever a Wordsworth.

(pushing it?)
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:41 PM
October 1, 2012 3:42 PM - Slopefarm
Strachey-ng it, dona.
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:42 PM
October 1, 2012 3:44 PM - Arkady
Great Scott! Stoppard, will you?!
October 1, 2012 3:46 PM - Slopefarm
Osborne to pun, arkady. But I will reFrayn for now.
October 1, 2012 3:48 PM - More4Less
someone feed me some brownies as these puns are driving my appetite for tasty carbs
October 1, 2012 3:49 PM - dibs
I was just talking to the guy who's going to rebuild the carbs on my boat!!!!! He also has to pack the shafts.
October 1, 2012 3:49 PM - Arkady
We better be careful, Slopes, or we'll be Bard.
October 1, 2012 3:55 PM - More4Less
Slopey, our knicks now have the fab-5 geezer squad (geezers over 36) - kidd, thomas, camby, that argentine pt guard, and now Sheed. experience is nice but it can't beat blazing freakish athletes like thunder, heat, etc
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:55 PM
October 1, 2012 3:59 PM - More4Less
Dave, your magnum fixed yet?
Edited at October 1, 2012 3:59 PM
October 1, 2012 4:10 PM - Partridge
Monday, Soup Day, again.
October 1, 2012 4:10 PM - Slope4Eva
Or,well. You killed the punfest M4L.
October 1, 2012 4:11 PM - dibs
Yes...only in a few hours at rhe dealer a week ago saturday. A few pollution sensors, $300.
October 1, 2012 4:15 PM - CGar
Yet another TKOTD resulting from m4l's GOTDWBG efforts.
Edited at October 1, 2012 4:15 PM
October 1, 2012 4:15 PM - CGar
And fuck you, dave!

[Leaving to buy step stool]
October 1, 2012 4:18 PM - More4Less
4Eva, only proven effective pun killer is sports talk - ie you should put that down on your note pad.

Part, looks like you might need some help finishing that soup. I'll be over in 10 minutes.
Edited at October 1, 2012 4:18 PM
October 1, 2012 4:19 PM - CGar
Legion, if you're lurking, I unpacked the Wacky Packages. Anxious to show you mine (nh). They're in dave's room . . .
Edited at October 1, 2012 4:19 PM
October 1, 2012 4:21 PM - More4Less
CGar, is that brownies (blond ones)??? and is that tray # 425 that I just earned?
October 1, 2012 4:21 PM - Donatella

I had toast for lunch, recovering from this weekend's gastronomic adventures. bf had the stew. A taste. He said it was too sweet and bland. Exactly my assessment, aside from the fact that the meat was tough as rawhide. The sweetness was from carrots cooking for 6 freaking hours, plus tomato paste and Guinness. The blandness was from the fact that this recipe had no condiments in it (read that with slow cooker recipes you have to be careful with a spice because you would be getting the taste in spades).
October 1, 2012 4:21 PM - Slope4Eva
Noted, M4L. I noticed this months ago. :-)

That soup was absolutely, delish.
October 1, 2012 4:23 PM - CGar
Those are my Mom's marble brownies, BW (aka cream cheese brownies). I've made those for you before.
Edited at October 1, 2012 4:23 PM
October 1, 2012 4:27 PM - More4Less
CGar, I've gotten & eaten 2 types from you - the usual ones and the blonde ones. don't recall these marble ones
October 1, 2012 4:29 PM - Partridge
Another 30 minutes cooking to go. Tastes OK. It's a veggie soup but I'm trying to finish the bacon up so I added a strip or two. Not sure if it needed the smokey flavor, but I'm learning that bacon is NEVER a bad ingredient.
October 1, 2012 4:31 PM - CGar
BW, these were the blonde ones - they were meant to be more marbled on top than blonde.
October 1, 2012 4:32 PM - dibs
Too much meat, etc over the past week. Tonights dinner will be a spinach salad with blue cheese dressing, hard boiled eggs, bacon and tomatos
October 1, 2012 4:34 PM - More4Less
CGar, memory still fuzzy. thinks I need asap a hands-on/mouth-on encounter with them marble ones
Edited at October 1, 2012 4:34 PM
October 1, 2012 4:34 PM - dibs
The Union League is doing a talk on the "Downton Abbey" castle...

Lords, Ladies, and Mummies:
Highclere Castle, the Real Downton Abbey

Although famous today as the country house depicted in the fictional television series Downton Abbey, Highclere Castle in Berkshire has a rich and fascinating history that goes far beyond its television fame. Since 1672 Highclere has been the seat of the Herbert family, later Earls of Carnarvon. The English Renaissance revival-styled confection that exists today was done in the 1840s by architect Charles Barry, architect of the Houses of Parliament. Highclere's exterior is decorated with features modeled after Renaissance architecture, while the famous Great Hall is based on an Italian Renaissance central courtyard. The lavish interiors incorporated the family's art collection, and Napoleon's desk and a library with over 5,500 books. Later renovations occurred under Lady Almina whose husband, the 5th Earl, financed the 1922 Egyptian expedition that discovered the tomb of King Tutankhamun. Highclere contains an Egyptian collection, the 5th Earl's treasures, some of which were only rediscovered in the house in 1988. Mr. DiCamillo will explore Highclere Castle, the real Downton Abbey, linking it to other Victorian country houses. He will also explain how the fictional Downton plot line has unexpected echoes of the house and family's complex history. Curt DiCamillo is an architectural historian and authority on the British country house. Since 1999, he has maintained an award-winning database on the web, The DiCamillo Companion to British & Irish Country Houses: www.DiCamilloCompanion.com. In recognition of his work, he was presented to the late Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother and the Prince of Wales.

If you log on to his website he's got some incredible, exclusive week long tours and stays at many of these historic homes
October 1, 2012 4:37 PM - CGar
"thinks I need asap a hands-on/mouth-on encounter"

Everything you post sounds GOTD these days.
October 1, 2012 4:38 PM - More4Less
"too much meat" is not something I expect from Dave
Edited at October 1, 2012 4:38 PM
October 1, 2012 4:42 PM - Partridge
"hard boiled eggs, bacon and tomatos"

See? Even bacon on a meatless night.
Edited at October 1, 2012 4:42 PM
October 1, 2012 4:48 PM - More4Less
Part, that would be me ring your door now. put out another plate setting
October 1, 2012 4:50 PM - Partridge
Come on over!!! You can take some to go.
October 1, 2012 4:53 PM - More4Less
Part, you should pack something like this in a thermo and/or small sandwiches to work - so you can have quick bites in btwn customers strolling in
October 1, 2012 4:58 PM - Partridge
Will do, M4L. I usually do just that in the beginning of the week. The weekend is harder to eat with customers around and them not wanting soup on their finely wrapped gifts. I've got to stick with at least yogurt and nuts on the weekend. Going all day without food can impede my ability to deliver quality customer service.
October 1, 2012 4:59 PM - More4Less
then you'll just have to power down a big ass breakfast on the weekends.
October 1, 2012 5:37 PM - Slopefarm
I think we're all Forster admit that punfests are far more popular here than m4l shamelessly begging for food.
October 1, 2012 5:38 PM - dibs
It's pretty sad actually, Slopey. Surely, as a Chinaman, he has a relative that owns a restaurant.
Edited at October 1, 2012 5:38 PM
October 1, 2012 5:40 PM - Slopefarm
LOL, dibs. One from column A, two from column B.
October 1, 2012 5:50 PM - dibs
Adele doing the new theme for next Bond movie, "Skyfall.".
Edited at October 1, 2012 5:51 PM
October 1, 2012 5:50 PM - dibs
OY...how do you put this thing together? Don't I get any gefilte fish?????
Edited at October 1, 2012 5:50 PM
October 1, 2012 5:51 PM - More4Less
no brownies to share with slopey
no backing him up when he faces a beat down
clearly jealous of all my trophies I've beaten him for
Panda has long memory
October 1, 2012 6:05 PM - Partridge
Seems Soukous is not the same as Sukkot. Learn somethin' new everyday.

Enjoy the bounty of Sukkot while the weather is nice today. Looks like rain tomorrow.
Edited at October 1, 2012 6:05 PM
October 1, 2012 6:39 PM - DeadCatBounce
Same thing, Part. Hebrew pronunciation vs Yiddish pronunciation.
Edited at October 1, 2012 6:39 PM
October 1, 2012 6:51 PM - ij
I did not do anything to the person at the Duplex. I told rob he made me irritated enough to deserve doing that, but it never happened. All the other things, yes.
October 1, 2012 6:55 PM - Partridge
Hey Jester! Your reputation precedes you. I'm Partridge, pleased to meet you.
October 1, 2012 7:04 PM - Partridge
Seems that this too is Soukous!
October 1, 2012 7:06 PM - ij
Thanks and likewise. This is a wonderful community and I'm sure you know that. I must be going though. All the best.
Edited at October 1, 2012 7:06 PM
October 1, 2012 7:10 PM - Partridge
God speed, Jester!
October 1, 2012 7:13 PM - petebklyn
omg, jester. Hello.
October 1, 2012 7:14 PM - petebklyn
seems there is whole group of people that pop in for 3 sec cameo. or maybe it just a quickie.
October 1, 2012 7:16 PM - petebklyn
so what happened to AAPL, dcb? IS it all about the mapping?
my otherhalf saw the map when it was being tested. he thought was really fine.
October 1, 2012 7:22 PM - bxgrl
Theer is nothing more disgusting than a rotted bathroom floor. Truly. And nothing nicer than to look at it and know you fixed it :-D
Edited at October 1, 2012 7:22 PM
October 1, 2012 7:40 PM - petebklyn
better when tenants fix their own floors. after all. landlords have a life.
October 1, 2012 7:41 PM - petebklyn
how is life in troy?
October 1, 2012 7:42 PM - petebklyn
no report yet from cobble, on day at the office yet?
October 1, 2012 7:46 PM - Partridge
Channeling Cobble, come in Cobble.

Bxgrl. You and MM are amazing me.
October 1, 2012 7:55 PM - DeadCatBounce
Hi Pete. Bought more AAPL today(at 659). Have too big a stake in it now, but will dump some for a quick gain if it goes my way.
Has nothing to do with the mapping. This is a typical pattern pre-earnings.
Rumor that they will announce mini iPad on Oct 10.
October 1, 2012 8:08 PM - rf
The Hassidim use Ashkenazi pronunciation, which was used in Europe (Eastern and Western), mostly. They say Sukkos, accent on first syable. Israelis and most "modern" Jews say Sukkot (accent on the second syllable), in the Sephardic style. Sephardic Jews were dispersed from Spain after the Inquisition to North Africa and Asia (mostly). When the State of Israel was founded, the leaders decided to use Sephardic pronunciation. Most American Jews have Ashkenazi origins but gradually the Israeli/Sephardic pronunciation has been adopted in most American synagogues except for the Hassidim who attempt to maintain the customs of Jews in Eastern Europe in the 1800s.

And, indeed, Soukous is something else altogether!
October 1, 2012 8:21 PM - Slopefarm
And neither sukkot nor soukous have anything to do with the souk.
October 1, 2012 8:22 PM - Slopefarm
Oh and OMG at the jester drive=by
October 1, 2012 9:00 PM - Deleted
jester!!
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October 1, 2012 9:04 PM - Deleted
oh man 'the voice' is super intense tonight. this girl auditioning is like super poor. her tough life circumstances make me want her to sing well!
October 1, 2012 9:31 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
You b*st*rds had a punfest without me! You'll all Burns in h*ll! : P

(Yes, I'm alive, but not unscathed...I may survive...)
October 1, 2012 9:32 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Well then! Hello, jester!

"Theer is nothing more disgusting than a rotted bathroom floor. Truly. And nothing nicer than to look at it and know you fixed it :-D"

Sweeet! Love it! Can't wait to see your handiwork! : D
October 1, 2012 9:34 PM - Partridge
We was worried. : (
October 1, 2012 9:36 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ah, thank you, LP, but don't worry about me. I have my moods. Mostly, I'm just tired.

I went to the seminar, then back to the office, then to one of my freelance gigs. All very fruitful, but exhausting. This (fulltime) job is going to kick my butt!
October 1, 2012 9:38 PM - Partridge
One of you kind PLUSA's brought me a bottle of Kanonkop Kadette 2009 South African wine. Well, it is mighty delicious. Thanks you!
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October 1, 2012 9:40 PM - Partridge
Any fallout with the "issue" person?
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October 1, 2012 9:42 PM - CGar
I was at the Duplex. I saw jester throw a balled up paper towel at the piano player so I don't buy the revisionist story.

Where's cobble? I want to know how her day was??? Ah, well, perhaps tomorrow, must go to bed now.
October 1, 2012 9:43 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Some fallout, mostly more work for me. Gotta 'make it happen' speech...was actually pretty congenial, but still a problem. I'm just anxious about how it's all going to shake out. The good news is that I can sign off on OT (and I don't mean Open Thread) for this person. The bad news is that it looks like a lot of OT for me coming up.
October 1, 2012 9:51 PM - Partridge
I hope things settle into transparent predictability soon for you. Deciphering all the players is exhausting.

Have a good night all!! This wine is yummy.
October 1, 2012 9:58 PM - ij
CGar, it was a tissue and it never left my pocket. As you may recall, we slunk out of there while he played rude songs about us. I never did anything.
October 1, 2012 9:59 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I hope things settle into transparent predictability soon for you. Deciphering all the players is exhausting."

Thank you, LP, yes, that's what I'm hoping for, too! : )
October 1, 2012 10:00 PM - Donatella

HI JESTER!!!!
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October 1, 2012 10:02 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Hi everyone...I'm baaaaaaack! Howdy, Jester! Long time no see dude! How's it going?
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October 1, 2012 10:04 PM - Donatella

Cobble, the reason I mentioned the list in your handbag is that just for your own personal motivation. To remember all the good things a job can bring and to encourage you to find solutions. I say that for myself as well. I have a list of things in my life I really want to accomplish and I made a big deal with myself about writing them down and it is pushing me to do other things I DO NOT WANT TO DO. Just an idea. But good luck however you deal with it.
October 1, 2012 10:07 PM - More4Less
Jester, you still living in BK or moved to Manhattan?
October 1, 2012 10:08 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I'm in need of a soft cookie and a warm glass of milk. I have neither in the house. Perhaps it's time for a quickie trip to the store. You all have a good nite and sweet dreams :-)
October 1, 2012 10:10 PM - Donatella


I was walking along inside of the Fulton St. station, transferring from the 4/5 to the C going home tonight. I can't tell you how expansive and happy I feel about the renovation. It's really fun to see what is behind the blue painted plywood and I love the blue tiles along the walkway to the A/C. But what I love most is that they painted the water pipes (or some kind of pipes) along the wall red. It looks so great with the pale blue subway tiles. And I love the charcoal grey tiles (perfect for wads of gum).

I went downstairs though to the A/C and it is still like hell down there. And tonight was some Satanic jazz sax player (playing some kind of "out" atonal hellish music) accompanied by a guy beating on plastic compound container "drums".
I was thinking of getting on a train in the opposite direction just to get off the train station. Oh well, one step at a time. I
October 1, 2012 10:20 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Thanks, dona, you have a point there. I do have plans, and goals, and I want to focus on that, too.
October 1, 2012 10:23 PM - Donatella
Good, Cobble! Good luck!!
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October 1, 2012 10:23 PM - ij
I just want to be reviled for things I actually did, not made up stuff. Ok, I'm well, I hope you all are too. Later.
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October 1, 2012 10:25 PM - Donatella

Jester, you aren't reviled. We had a few crazy nights and it is part of PLUSA lore. I am really happy to see you here and hope that life is going well for you.
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October 1, 2012 10:59 PM - BoerumHillScott
Good evening all.
Hi Jester, feel free to hang around a bit.

I am pretty sure the first meeting with the parents went great.
They are cool people, and we found plenty to talk about for three and a half hours.