Friday Open Thread
August 10, 2012 6:13 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere

187 comments
August 10, 2012 6:41 AM - More4Less
1st. Again.
Edited at August 10, 2012 6:41 AM
#1
August 10, 2012 6:57 AM - More4Less
Give the trophy to the Lakers already and call it a season. Kobe, Nash, meta, gasol, Howard = best team on paper. Sucks to be a Knicks fan - on top of being Mets fan. Thank god for the G-Men
#2
August 10, 2012 6:58 AM - the chicken
M4L, how can you be first when Snappy creates the thread?
Edited at August 10, 2012 6:58 AM
#3
August 10, 2012 7:02 AM - More4Less
Chicken, the thread header doesn't count. This is in reference to the comment count.
Edited at August 10, 2012 7:02 AM
#4
August 10, 2012 7:08 AM - dibs
It feels like Saturday up here.
Edited at August 10, 2012 7:08 AM
#5
August 10, 2012 7:13 AM - CGar
m4l, sent my contractor your pics. Meeting him at 8am. He's going to tear out all the door and floor moldings before Jose starts the actual sanding (yesterday Jose did the prep work). He would have preferred a bit more notice is all!
Edited at August 10, 2012 7:13 AM
#6
August 10, 2012 7:24 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM

DIBS, Every day is Saturday for you, now that you're retired. : P
Edited at August 10, 2012 7:30 AM
#7
August 10, 2012 7:30 AM - the chicken
If I knew how to start OTs then I could be first post every day?
Edited at August 10, 2012 7:30 AM
#8
August 10, 2012 7:35 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oui, Monsieur Le Chicken. BHS would have to give you admin privileges, then you can post threads.
Edited at August 10, 2012 7:35 AM
#9
August 10, 2012 7:42 AM - dibs
Craig LaBan, Philadelphia's premier restaurant critic, visits Brooklyn. At least it isn't full of the "discovered" type talk you see from Manhattanites.

http://articles.philly.com/2012-08-09/news/33119335_1_beer-gardens-brooklyn-brewery-fette-sau
Edited at August 10, 2012 7:42 AM
#10
August 10, 2012 7:56 AM - dibs
You could tell us what you're having for lunch.
Edited at August 10, 2012 7:56 AM
#11
August 10, 2012 8:02 AM - the chicken
Just had fish and chips and looks like it's about to rain - feeling very british at the moment.
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:02 AM
#12
August 10, 2012 8:12 AM - dibs
Jolly good, mate. Maybe have a fag after lunch???
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:12 AM
#13
August 10, 2012 8:14 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
^^^^ Said DIBS, ever hopeful. : P
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:14 AM
#14
August 10, 2012 8:16 AM - dibs
My friend here was instrumental in moving this historic stagecoach stop from across the road where it was on private land that was being sold to a plot across the corner, across the street from his house where it now sits on land that the town owns. They got a grant to restore it and it looks great now. Almost finished.

Sign rreads "Webster Stagecoach Stop and Store c. 1820"
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:15 AM
#15
August 10, 2012 8:20 AM - dibs
The green on the ridge is just a tarp covering the rear roof which isn't finished yet.
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:20 AM
#16
August 10, 2012 8:24 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
(Must resist pun on "rear". Must drink a little more coffee and be productive today. Must not waste time punning and teasing DIBS.)
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:24 AM
#17
August 10, 2012 8:33 AM - dibs
Maybe you should at least take a shower first.

My days of being "productive" are over.
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:33 AM
#18
August 10, 2012 8:35 AM - More4Less
Had corn flakes again for breakfast. Having 1st cup of espresso
#19
August 10, 2012 8:36 AM - More4Less
CGar, didn't you tell contractor you contemplating this with the moldings or is this simply you didmt give him enough lead time?
#20
August 10, 2012 8:37 AM - dibs
I just had a pear for breakfast.
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:37 AM
#21
August 10, 2012 8:40 AM - More4Less
"Northeastern University and the Economic Policy Institute for the Associated Press found that roughly 1.5 million, or 54% of recent college graduates, were either unemployed or underemployed working at jobs that do not require a college degree."

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/college-degree-doesn-t-guarantee-good-job-gary-121730106.html
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:40 AM
#22
August 10, 2012 8:41 AM - the chicken
sorry Dibs, I regret to inform you that I've now given up fags - apparently they were leaving a horrible taste in my mouth....
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:41 AM
#23
August 10, 2012 8:43 AM - More4Less
if the above remains the case when my kid is about to enter college, I'm going to give him the talk of "ivy league or city college" - seems outright stupid to pay big ass tuition for anything in between
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:43 AM
#24
August 10, 2012 8:45 AM - dibs
That reminds me, I saw a swallow at the bird feeder.
#25
August 10, 2012 8:46 AM - More4Less
Chicken, that's the "bottom" role. "top" role shouldn't require putting much in mouth.

Slopey, no need. I'm giving myself GOTD
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:46 AM
#26
August 10, 2012 8:47 AM - dibs
m4l, learning a "trade" these days is oftentimes going to be more lucrative than many other white collar jobs...welding, plumbing, carpentry, electrician.
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:47 AM
#27
August 10, 2012 8:50 AM - Bedstuymaven
M4L - Do you get a gold medal for being first?
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:50 AM
#28
August 10, 2012 8:51 AM - More4Less
dave, trade is going to be more lucrative if one is the boss - not sure if one is just the worker bee
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:51 AM
#29
August 10, 2012 8:52 AM - dibs
If he works hard and has a work ethic better than his father he will be boss one day. Hopefully he doesn't waste his productive years blogging all day
#30
August 10, 2012 8:58 AM - CGar
m4l, it's possible that I mentioned to him in passing that I hated the existing moldings. It's also entirely possible that I only thought about it to myself, and that he's lost his ability to read my mind in recent years. Other than wanting to kill me, he didn't really care. I try not to take advantage of our friendship, but, for me, he dropped everything and brought 2 guys there this morning to rip out the old moldings. (One of the guys is a bow-legged mouth-breathing Mexican named Jose, so there are now 2 Joses in my new apartment.)
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:58 AM
#31
August 10, 2012 8:59 AM - dibs
Photos, CGar??????
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:59 AM
#32
August 10, 2012 9:00 AM - dibs
I saw one Hispanic guy in Manchester yesterday. Otherwise, nada, nowhere. :(
#33
August 10, 2012 9:01 AM - dibs
Chicken.....what do the fundamentals of the Man U IPO look like????
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:01 AM
#34
August 10, 2012 9:02 AM - More4Less
CGar, did you see or him telling you if there's a gap the qtr rd was covering - ie does he need to buy the cove molding?
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:02 AM
#35
August 10, 2012 9:03 AM - More4Less
Dave is only on good behavior cause there's no rent boy / talent supply around.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:03 AM
#36
August 10, 2012 9:04 AM - dibs
m4l, we discussed this yesterday...cove molding is for ceilings, under chair rails, etc; not floors. Quarter round and shoe molding are ised where the baseboard meets the floor.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:05 AM
#37
August 10, 2012 9:05 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm not sure DIBS would call it 'good', but yes, he seems to be behaving. : P
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:05 AM
#38
August 10, 2012 9:06 AM - More4Less
Man U IPO seems like bad investmt
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#39
August 10, 2012 9:06 AM - CGar
The bow-legged mouth-breathing Mexican is, as we speak, on his knees, on the floor in dave's room, with his tools.

I saw one gap (so far) in dave's room, where the pinball machine will be. I'll see what the whole place looks like when done and decide then whether to put cove molding all around. Either way, I'm glad to get rid of the quarter round molding, which screams suburban tract house to me.
#40
August 10, 2012 9:08 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I'm glad to get rid of the quarter round molding, which screams suburban tract house to me."

Yes, as proof, we have that here in Ditmas Park aka 'the suburbs'.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:08 AM
#41
August 10, 2012 9:08 AM - More4Less
Dave, as long as it can and is used for the flr, then it's fine. I use IKEA stuff for all sort of stuff they weren't intended for and it works well so who cares if it was intended for something else. Smart peeps can re-purpose stuff.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:08 AM
#42
August 10, 2012 9:08 AM - CGar
dave, when I Google shoe molding, I get pictures of the quarter round that I'm ripping up, so can you please post a picture of what you're talking about. I was thinking of something like this instead:
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:08 AM
#43
August 10, 2012 9:10 AM - More4Less
Dave, the kid doesn't need tons of hardwork to be the boss of a trade biz. I authorize the kid to use the college fd to start/buy a trade biz - boss from day 1
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:10 AM
#44
August 10, 2012 9:11 AM - CGar
I like something classic like this. Also like that paint colour. This molding comes up when Googling "shoe molding".
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:11 AM
#45
August 10, 2012 9:11 AM - dibs
Yes, that is a cove. It doesn't belong on a floor.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:11 AM
#46
August 10, 2012 9:12 AM - dibs
"Man U IPO seems like bad investmt"

Why???
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:12 AM
#47
August 10, 2012 9:14 AM - More4Less
CGar, the flrs are nailed down right - ie not floating flrs? if so, you can caulk it to fill the gap if the gap is small
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:14 AM
#48
August 10, 2012 9:15 AM - dibs
That's not a shoe molding. A shoe molding is similar to a quarter round except that one side is longer than the other and therefore not a perfect radius that a quarter round is by definition.

Here's a profile of the two with "SM" being the shoe molding.

ARE WE CLEAR NOW????????????????
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:17 AM
#49
August 10, 2012 9:17 AM - dibs
Yes, m4l, he has "real" 3/4" thick wood floors. Caulking looks bad.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:17 AM
#50
August 10, 2012 9:18 AM - CGar
Thanks, dave. I don't like either the shoe molding or the quarter round. Both have an ugly suburban tract house look to me. Appropriate or not, I'll go with something like the cove molding, which, yes, was the ceiling molding in the house in which I grew up, or, preferably, something nice like in the 9:11 pic I posted.
#51
August 10, 2012 9:18 AM - More4Less
Dave, have you seen the leverage on there? plus it's a broad-reach global brand already - ie are they banking on crazy penetration into the US for the upside??? cheaper more attractive alternatives abound - UNLESS you simply want that certificate to frame ("yo, am a Man U shareholder")
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:18 AM
#52
August 10, 2012 9:19 AM - CGar
m4l, yes, as dave said, they're nailed down. Have to wait and see when it's all removed. If it's one small gap in a corner, I'm not going to put molding down all over the apartment. We'll see.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:19 AM
#53
August 10, 2012 9:21 AM - dibs
Yes, but you neglect to look at cash flow and earnings, so you analysis is pithy. It's like the argument I had with my friend here. He thinks MCD is a bad company just because he won't eat there.

On eof the problems with Man U is that management controls 97% of voting stock. it'll never be an institutional stock.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:21 AM
#54
August 10, 2012 9:22 AM - dibs
Baseboards WITHOUT quarter rounds have a much cleaner and I think classier look. And the alternative that you showed was very nice.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:22 AM
#55
August 10, 2012 9:24 AM - dibs
I was hoping that Jose would nail down me.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:24 AM
#56
August 10, 2012 9:24 AM - More4Less
Dave, if the gap is small, caulk is fine as it'll look like an extension of the baseboard. without the cove or use of caulk, there'll be a small vertical gap btwn the baseboard and the flr - that looks bad (ie that dark shadow line in that gap)
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:24 AM
#57
August 10, 2012 9:28 AM - dibs
The gap isn't for me. I'm more of a Bloomingdales and Bergdorf's guy.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:28 AM
#58
August 10, 2012 9:28 AM - the chicken
"Chicken.....what do the fundamentals of the Man U IPO look like????"

I've not looked at it but I would NEVER be a minority investor in a sports franchise.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:28 AM
#59
August 10, 2012 9:29 AM - the chicken
and the Glazers are only selling because they have debt problems.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:29 AM
#60
August 10, 2012 9:30 AM - dibs
I agree. Those "type" of owners aren't really going to act in a fiduciary manner. It's even a problem with Zuckerberg's 51% ownership of FB.

So the stock would have to be really cheap on valuation metrics before it warranted a look.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:30 AM
#61
August 10, 2012 9:31 AM - dibs
m4l...I sold my CLWR yesterday. I'll buy it back around $1.40-1.45
#62
August 10, 2012 9:33 AM - dibs
Man U was priced below the expected range. I bet it trades off today and doesn't see the IPO price again for some time. These high profile IPOs are for the retail crowd.
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:33 AM
#63
August 10, 2012 9:34 AM - CGar
"Baseboards WITHOUT quarter rounds have a much cleaner and I think classier look. And the alternative that you showed was very nice."

I realize you're on vacation, but if you had kept up with yesterday's OT, you'd know that baseboards with NO floor molding (but a nice top molding against the wall, like m4l has) is my first preference.

If I have to put down a floor molding, I'll go with something nice like my 9:11 pic.

If the only gap is the one I saw in dave's room, and it's under the pinball machine, I'll improvise rather than put molding in the entire apartment. But, I fully expect now that we will find gaps all over.

Edited at August 10, 2012 9:34 AM
#64
August 10, 2012 9:42 AM - More4Less
Dave, so you're thinking Man U will go up alot and it's also a relative good buy vs other stocks???
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:42 AM
#65
August 10, 2012 9:51 AM - More4Less
Dave, so after all that, you seem to agree with me that Man U is not a good buy?
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:51 AM
#66
August 10, 2012 9:55 AM - MontroseMorris
CGar, I like the molding in your photo. It's classic and classy. Does not scream "low end contractor special." Go for that. I like the cove molding as a second alternative. It doesn't matter if it's "supposed" to be used there, or not. People were not "supposed" to put industrial stoves in their home kitchens, but now look what we've got.

Start a trend!
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:55 AM
#67
August 10, 2012 9:59 AM - Slopefarm
Mornin' all. I like the, um, 9:11 molding, but not the cove molding for the floor. I'd live with gaps before I put the cove molding along the baseboard.

Oh, and per dibs post of the Philly critic's tour of Brooklyn foodiedom, here's this nice tidbit: "At moments, the cool factor feels a bit too contrived, with every garage door rolled up to reveal yet another hipster bar tableau (Oh, the lumberjack beards! The plaid!)"
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:59 AM
#68
August 10, 2012 10:00 AM - More4Less
I'll be the minority opinion and say I think the cove is better than that posted pic above. the cove is cleaner simpler lines that's more in tune with the post war pad. that one is more for a nice pre war pad
Edited at August 10, 2012 10:00 AM
#69
August 10, 2012 10:05 AM - CGar
To re-post my blank post: Thanks MM and Slobby, I like the floor molding part of the 9:11 pic, but the top molding may be fancier than what I want to go with.

m4l, if you're around this weekend, we need to exchange house tours.
Edited at August 10, 2012 10:05 AM
#70
August 10, 2012 10:07 AM - Slopefarm
"To re-post my blank post: Thanks MM and Slobby, I like the floor molding part of the 9:11 pic, but the top molding may be fancier than what I want to go with."

Agreed. For the top molding, stick with the example you posted yesterday.


Edited at August 10, 2012 10:07 AM
#71
August 10, 2012 10:10 AM - More4Less
CGar, given you have quick decisions to make since work is starting, you can swing by later if you get out at decent time - ie before I go pick up kid at 7:10 or so. I'll be in BK both days this weekend. Clean-up part II on Sat (plus show a neighbor the renov as he considering my contractor for his pad). meet up with broker on Sun to list the pad. if you don't mind me being a little dusty, sweety, etc, I can meet you Sat after I wrap up - ie likely around early afternoon.
Edited at August 10, 2012 10:10 AM
#72
August 10, 2012 10:17 AM - CGar
m4l, I think dave would enjoy you all dusty and sweaty.
#73
August 10, 2012 10:20 AM - More4Less
CGar, only if he is now into chubby or I've acquired guns & buns.
Edited at August 10, 2012 10:20 AM
#74
August 10, 2012 10:33 AM - MontroseMorris
For a more modern apt, I agree, the bottom of the molding only.
Edited at August 10, 2012 10:33 AM
#75
August 10, 2012 10:43 AM - Slopefarm
Hey, dibs, I checked on where we're staying in P-Town next week. Provincetown Inn. Room has water views (i.e., not in main bldg facing street). We'll be there toward the end of next week for 3 days. Berkshires first, though.
Edited at August 10, 2012 10:43 AM
#76
August 10, 2012 11:18 AM - Slopefarm
I guess now I get to find out whether there really are brownies for TKOTD.
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:18 AM
#77
August 10, 2012 11:20 AM - More4Less
slopey, there's no [munch munch] baked goods [munch munch; gulp gulp]
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:20 AM
#78
August 10, 2012 11:25 AM - Slopefarm
Yeah, trusting you with the brownie prize is like trusting cookie monster with the letter of the day.
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:25 AM
#79
August 10, 2012 11:35 AM - BoerumHillScott
Is this now the molding channel?

Regarding college grads working in jobs where degrees are not required, I wonder what definitions they used.

In my field, a degree equates to 5-6 years of experiences, helps when looking for a new job, and greatly enhances your ability to get promoted through manamement ranks, but is my no means required.

In theory, I could have skipped both my BS and MBA and still ended up where I am now, but the chances would have been much lower.
#80
August 10, 2012 11:36 AM - CGar
MM, I want to use a top molding, too, for the floor boards but prolly not as fancy as the 9:11 pic. Yes, the apartment is modern, but, personally, I like a mix of modern with classic and traditional. Works for me. I don't mind being an Architectural Digest/Brownstoner reject. I like m4l's . . .
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:36 AM
#81
August 10, 2012 11:37 AM - CGar
"Is this now the molding channel?"

Yes, *rob*, it is. :-/


Edited at August 10, 2012 11:37 AM
#82
August 10, 2012 11:38 AM - Arkady
Moldy, more like.
#83
August 10, 2012 11:39 AM - bxgrl
The cove molding on a floor will also catch dirt much more readily- there are enough places for baseboard moldings to catch dirt- trust me. I spent 4 hours yesterday cleaning them.
#84
August 10, 2012 11:39 AM - CGar
"trusting you with the brownie prize is like . . . "

trusting dave with a Mexican
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:39 AM
#85
August 10, 2012 11:40 AM - bxgrl
CGar- I love the baseboards in the picture you posted.
#86
August 10, 2012 11:44 AM - More4Less
Slopey, we trust bankers with our deposits so there's precedent for trusting me with baked goods. [munch munch gulp gulp]
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:44 AM
#87
August 10, 2012 11:45 AM - bxgrl
I dunno, Slopey- I hear too much munching and gulping from that corner of the room.
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:45 AM
#88
August 10, 2012 11:46 AM - Slopefarm
Um, it would take me as long and as many keystrokes just to list all of the design and materials decisions Mrs. Slopey and I had to make during our renovation as it has taken us to discuss CGar's baseboard dilemma so far. If I'd held a comparable blog discussion here for each of those decisions, the total time and energy devoted to blogsourcing our reno would be enough to shepard rob through entire season as an Amazing Race contestant. Jussayin'.
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:56 AM
#89
August 10, 2012 11:48 AM - the chicken
Perhaps a silly question but don't you guys have polystyrene/styrofoam mouldings over there?

It's a lot cheaper and lighter than plaster moulding and easier to cut to fit and mitre up. Because it's lighter, it needs less adhesive to put up and once it's painted it's impossible to tell the difference.
#90
August 10, 2012 11:54 AM - Partridge
DIBS. Brooklyn partridge(at) gmail
#91
August 10, 2012 11:55 AM - CGar
We're talking about wood moldings, chicken. Styrofoam? Really? And I'm not doing plaster. This is the thanks I get for trying to make a nice home for you???
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:55 AM
#92
August 10, 2012 11:57 AM - CGar
Slopey, you have been stripped of the award I once gave you for being one of the nicest people in the OT.
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:57 AM
#93
August 10, 2012 11:57 AM - Partridge
Bfar. Brooklyn partridge(at) gmail
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:57 AM
#94
August 10, 2012 11:59 AM - CGar
"the cove molding on a floor will also catch dirt much more readily"

Translation: I'm NOT cleaning the new apartment, so best you plan to hire upstairs and downstairs maids for me.
Edited at August 10, 2012 11:59 AM
#95
August 10, 2012 12:06 PM - the chicken
Well if you can wait until xmas then I'll put the mouldings up for you. If not then you'll just have to settle for mooshu pancakes.
#96
August 10, 2012 12:14 PM - bxgrl
Sweetheart- my nails! You paid for this expensive manicure, you know.
#97
August 10, 2012 12:20 PM - MontroseMorris
Hey slumlord, at least you have baseboards. I seem to be missing a few.

Boy, it's impossible to get a decent apartment.
Edited at August 10, 2012 12:20 PM
#98
August 10, 2012 12:26 PM - the chicken
righto - this brit is off home to enjoy the last couple of days of the Olympics.

Have a great weekend all!
Edited at August 10, 2012 12:25 PM
#99
August 10, 2012 12:32 PM - kazootite
Snappy, is that photo of the old Towers Hotel in BK hts? (I think it is/was called that.) If it is one of the towers there, what a great shot.
Edited at August 10, 2012 12:32 PM
August 10, 2012 12:37 PM - kazootite
After skimming here for 1-1/2 days, I notice that it may be time for some molding puns. I will leave that to you while I waste my day doing other things. <3
Edited at August 10, 2012 12:37 PM
August 10, 2012 12:39 PM - MontroseMorris
Kazoo, that's the place. Great building!
Edited at August 10, 2012 12:39 PM
August 10, 2012 12:42 PM - bxgrl
Wayne is priming your luxurious bedroom now, as we speak. We are going minimalist in the bathroom so think French railway station. :)
Edited at August 10, 2012 12:42 PM
August 10, 2012 12:45 PM - CGar
"We are going minimalist in the bathroom"

Count youself lucky if she gives you a hole in the floor, eSIL.
Edited at August 10, 2012 12:45 PM
August 10, 2012 12:48 PM - Slopefarm
"We are going minimalist in the bathroom"

Phillip Glass shower door?
Edited at August 10, 2012 12:48 PM
August 10, 2012 12:49 PM - More4Less
non-wood moldings is not appropriate for the flr as that gets banged alot. MDF moldings are good price but even that is not appropriate as wood can take the banging better. Non-wood stuff is best left for the out-of-reach areas like the ceiling
Edited at August 10, 2012 12:49 PM
August 10, 2012 12:50 PM - More4Less
I tiled the whole freaking bathrm; was thinking of tiling ceiling above the tub/shower too but got over-ruled.
Edited at August 10, 2012 12:50 PM
August 10, 2012 12:54 PM - More4Less
is tomorrow going to be some serious ass-whooping rain & wind???
Edited at August 10, 2012 12:54 PM
August 10, 2012 1:03 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Our bathroom is tiled floor to ceiling, white. The ceiling is the only thing not tiled. The floor tiles are nice, kind of a light grey marble-y looking ceramic (not bad), the wall tiles are too large for my taste. But it's clean, and insanely bright: rather blinding, in fact!
August 10, 2012 1:06 PM - bxgrl
The guy who used to live across the street from us tiled his entire bathroom in black swirly marble floor tile. Horrible. Claustrophobic.
August 10, 2012 1:08 PM - MontroseMorris
I really like subway tile in the bathroom. Of course, having expensive taste ruins me. I don't want the cheap flat Home Depot ones, I want the more expensive ones that look like antique tile.
August 10, 2012 1:08 PM - MontroseMorris
Slumlord, I've been trying to call you on your landline.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:08 PM
August 10, 2012 1:08 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I have a friend (who regrets this choice) with an all black bathroom, impossible to keep clean, shows every streak, every bit of dust. PITA.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:08 PM
August 10, 2012 1:11 PM - More4Less
I like the flat subway tiles but wife chose the bevel edge ones instead. got the big ass tiles in the other bathrm. I like the look of tiles flr-ceiling vs stopping mid way.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:11 PM
August 10, 2012 1:11 PM - MontroseMorris
I saw an all black bathroom once. The guy thought he was a player. Even the tub, washbasin and toilet were black, with black tiled walls. It was pretty funny.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:11 PM
August 10, 2012 1:13 PM - dibs
Went to the last show. Didn't buy anything. At Lake Winnesquam now. The water here is so clear you can see bottom (nh) in 6' of water. No sign of any of the Romneys over on Winnepesauke.
August 10, 2012 1:18 PM - dibs
Our second bath in Philly has some black tile mixed with the white and I had done the trim and fireplace (yes, it has a fireplace) in black and put up a wallpaper with black stars. All that will change now since we enlarged the adjacent bedroom and made the bathroom ensuite,

Taking suggestions , which I will regret, for what coler trim would be good for the bedroom and bath that won't be too awful with the black floor tiles. Was thinking a tavern red.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:18 PM
August 10, 2012 1:21 PM - dibs
Old Village Paints Tavern Red
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:21 PM
August 10, 2012 1:24 PM - More4Less
not liking the red. I have charcoal grey/black flrs paired with beige/cream walls - that seems to work. so maybe a light grey wall tile for your black flrs
August 10, 2012 1:27 PM - More4Less
of course the classic combo is black and white.
August 10, 2012 1:29 PM - kazootite
Was a decision made about Bleeker Blue? That must be a form of Village "branding" rather than a misspelling, sort of like Brooklyn "branding".


August 10, 2012 1:32 PM - MontroseMorris
Dave, I think that's a good color.

Very Federal.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:33 PM
August 10, 2012 1:33 PM - dibs
The view across the lake is Bleeker now tthan I've seen it other times.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:33 PM
August 10, 2012 1:35 PM - dibs
I actually painted the stair risers that color a long time ago. The white looked awful and was forever getting scuffed.

The hallway and stair trim is white.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:35 PM
August 10, 2012 1:35 PM - Slopefarm
village = Bleecker, not Bleeker.




Edited at August 10, 2012 1:35 PM
August 10, 2012 1:36 PM - kazootite
About white subway tiles- I remember reading here that the grouting is best in a light gray or something (for upkeep, etc.). Does anyone know or remember that?
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:36 PM
August 10, 2012 1:37 PM - dibs
I haven't heard any loons yet. I mean up here, not you people.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:37 PM
August 10, 2012 1:38 PM - kazootite
village = Bleecker, not Bleeker.

truly? good grief.
August 10, 2012 1:39 PM - kazootite
I make a lot of mistakes and was thinking that Arkady might comma after me.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:39 PM
August 10, 2012 1:41 PM - dibs
Have you had a colonoscopy yet, kazoo???
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:41 PM
August 10, 2012 1:43 PM - Slopefarm
She's still waiting for a quote, dibs, and may need to ask her parens for money if it's not covered.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:43 PM
August 10, 2012 1:44 PM - dibs
Thanks for the exclamation. Point taken.
Edited at August 10, 2012 1:44 PM
August 10, 2012 1:47 PM - kazootite
dave, ewwww
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August 10, 2012 1:48 PM - Donatella


"Have you had a colonoscopy yet, kazoo??? "

.........to avoid ending up with a semi-colon.
August 10, 2012 1:50 PM - kazootite
too fast for me, dona- I better have some more coffee.

Edited at August 10, 2012 1:50 PM
August 10, 2012 2:09 PM - Slopefarm
OK, bye all.

I won't be posting from vacation, except possibly on rare occasions.
Edited at August 10, 2012 2:08 PM
August 10, 2012 2:11 PM - Donatella

I have to get one but it's really a pain in the asterisk.
Edited at August 10, 2012 2:11 PM
August 10, 2012 2:12 PM - Donatella
Have a nice VA-KAY Slopey.
August 10, 2012 2:13 PM - dibs
You won't feel a thing. dona. They put you out and the next thing you know you wake up in another room. I don't know what the fuss is all about given the size of some of the ones I've had up there!!!!! (h)
August 10, 2012 2:15 PM - dibs
Have fun in P-Town, Slopey. I hear they have a nice pool at that place. Go on a whale watch if you've never done one before.
Edited at August 10, 2012 2:15 PM
August 10, 2012 2:19 PM - dibs
Just started raining up here. It may, off and on, through tomorrow but I'll still go in the lake.
Edited at August 10, 2012 2:19 PM
August 10, 2012 2:23 PM - CGar
"Taking suggestions , which I will regret"

Careful, dave, Slopey gets bitchy when it's not all about HIM. And many of "them" will deride you no matter what you select.

Personally, I like the Tavern Red you posted. Has a ring of burgundy to it. I'm thinking of a similar color for one of the bathrooms.
Edited at August 10, 2012 2:23 PM
August 10, 2012 2:35 PM - CGar
It was Bleeker Beige (no "c"), Kazoo.
Edited at August 10, 2012 2:35 PM
August 10, 2012 2:47 PM - kazootite
Did dave preposition Jose yet?
Edited at August 10, 2012 2:47 PM
August 10, 2012 3:05 PM - More4Less
Kazoo, 4Eva said use platinum for them white tiles in bathrm
Edited at August 10, 2012 3:05 PM
August 10, 2012 3:07 PM - Partridge
No, Partridge did.
August 10, 2012 3:09 PM - dibs
I asked him to comma all over me
Edited at August 10, 2012 3:09 PM
August 10, 2012 3:26 PM - Donatella

Well, I gotta dash.
Edited at August 10, 2012 3:26 PM
August 10, 2012 3:41 PM - More4Less
sorry Patridge. that was you with the subway tiles in bathrm with the platinum?
Edited at August 10, 2012 3:41 PM
August 10, 2012 3:44 PM - Partridge
Yes, no biggie! What did you end up using, M4L?
Edited at August 10, 2012 3:44 PM
August 10, 2012 3:48 PM - More4Less
asswipe contractor purposely ignored me and stuck with white. no biggie. when the white get old, dirty, etc, I'll dig it out and put in platinum then
Edited at August 10, 2012 3:48 PM
August 10, 2012 3:51 PM - Partridge
If he used a sealer, it will stay white. Remember to reseal it every so often.
Edited at August 10, 2012 3:51 PM
August 10, 2012 3:57 PM - More4Less
sealer meaning the clear silicon / caulk? Don't think there's anything on top of the grout
Edited at August 10, 2012 3:56 PM
August 10, 2012 4:05 PM - Partridge
NO not the silicone. It's liquid acrylic solution that gets sponged on after the tile and grout are finished and dry. It creates hard surface and reduces the porosity of the grout. It should be reapplied on a spotlessly clean surface every 6 month or year.
This stuff...
Edited at August 10, 2012 4:05 PM
August 10, 2012 4:18 PM - More4Less
oh, don't know if that did that or not but I'm suspecting NO.

how does it look compared to no application of it? materially more shiny - even on the tiles themselves? I think I should apply this onto the kitchen back splash too
Edited at August 10, 2012 4:18 PM
August 10, 2012 4:24 PM - Partridge
It is invisible. Yes, even more important in the kitchen. Easy to apply. With a brush or a sponge. Can't make a mistake.
August 10, 2012 4:36 PM - More4Less
so I don't need to worry about not wiping off excess on surface of tile?
Edited at August 10, 2012 4:36 PM
August 10, 2012 4:48 PM - Partridge
No. You want it on the tile and the grout. Starts out milky white, goes on like water (in consistency), drys quickly and invisibly.
Edited at August 10, 2012 4:48 PM
August 10, 2012 4:49 PM - More4Less
love it. will pick up a bottle of that along with some other misc stuff for the old BK pad.
Edited at August 10, 2012 4:49 PM
August 10, 2012 4:50 PM - Partridge

Bright Glaze Acrylic Grout Sealer Quart
A Water based "Acrylic" sealer formulated to prevent deep staining and water soak-thru on all cementicious Grouts

This sealer provides excellent grease and oil resistance.
Will Not Yellow White Grout.
Water Repellent.
Provides Stain Resistance.
Fast Penetrating.
Rock Hard Durability.
Can be Re-Applied.
This Product is NON-FLAMMABLE.
Coverage Range
12-13" tile: 150-250 sf per quart
16-18" tile: 200-350 sf per quart.
How to clean tile grout
Clean the grout first with water and allow to dry, this will remove any loose surface debris.
For some stains, simple household items like vinegar or baking soda can be effective cleaners. Use vinegar diluted with an equal amount of water, or make a paste of baking soda and a bit of water to clean the grout with. Spray or dab the cleaner onto a small length of grout and scrub with a stiff brush.
Scrubbing in small circles rather than straight up and down will remove more debris from the grout.
Rinse well with water and mop up and remaining moisture with a sponge or paper towels.
Generic household cleaners such as Mr. Clean, Lysol, or powder-based cleaners can also work on tile grout.
A steam cleaner works well on your grout work the pressure of the steam cleaner can loosen debris and stains that cleaners can't dissolve.
Never use bleach on colored grout, as it will discolor the grout.
Use a stiff nylon brush for cleaning.
Never mix cleaners together! wear glove and eye protection.
When your tile grout is completely clean, keep it looking fresh and new by applying a coat or two of grout sealer.
Reapply the grout sealer at least once a year, or more often if necessary.
Edited at August 10, 2012 4:50 PM
August 10, 2012 4:58 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Bartender? Flat gingerale and some crackers, please.
Edited at August 10, 2012 4:58 PM
August 10, 2012 4:59 PM - Partridge
Not well?
Edited at August 10, 2012 4:59 PM
August 10, 2012 5:00 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Not at all :-(
Edited at August 10, 2012 5:00 PM
August 10, 2012 5:01 PM - Partridge
Oh, so sorry. Anything else I can do?
Edited at August 10, 2012 5:01 PM
August 10, 2012 5:03 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Shoot me.
Edited at August 10, 2012 5:03 PM
August 10, 2012 5:05 PM - More4Less
sorry, most of us don't carry a glitter gun. you'll have to shoot ya self
Edited at August 10, 2012 5:05 PM
August 10, 2012 5:06 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Real gun, please. Even glitter can't cure this.
Edited at August 10, 2012 5:06 PM
August 10, 2012 5:10 PM - More4Less
ok, guess I'll tell Serena to not bother dropping by your pad then as it won't help either
Edited at August 10, 2012 5:10 PM
August 10, 2012 5:14 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Even she couldn't help me. Pain is unbearable. Gonna go curl up and try not to scream.
Edited at August 10, 2012 5:14 PM
August 10, 2012 5:17 PM - More4Less
Should you see doc if that bad?
Edited at August 10, 2012 5:17 PM
August 10, 2012 5:19 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Advil, water, 'stiff belt' of booze, bed, STAT!

Sorry to hear you aren't feeling well, Snapster. Go rest and hope you feel better soon!
Edited at August 10, 2012 5:22 PM
August 10, 2012 5:28 PM - Partridge
I think she is curled up already.
Edited at August 10, 2012 5:28 PM
August 10, 2012 5:55 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oh my goodness, have to get ready to schlep some more this evening. Schlepping and cleaning, cleaning and schlepping. I need a job so that I can sit still and relax! ; )
Edited at August 10, 2012 5:55 PM
August 10, 2012 6:09 PM - kazootite
Thanks for the answer about platinum grout with white subway tiles.



Edited at August 10, 2012 6:09 PM
August 10, 2012 6:10 PM - kazootite
Snappy, I hope you feel better.
August 10, 2012 6:45 PM - MontroseMorris
Feel better, Snappy!!!
Edited at August 10, 2012 6:45 PM
August 10, 2012 7:13 PM - Deleted
Snappy;

I hope that you feel well soon.
Edited at August 10, 2012 7:13 PM
August 10, 2012 8:02 PM - ilovestoops
Snappy - sorry to hear you're so sick - take care and feel better soon!

Slopey - have a great trip - you'll be missed!
Edited at August 10, 2012 8:02 PM
August 10, 2012 8:50 PM - BoerumHillScott
fuckity fuckity fuckity fuck.
I wish my life would calm down.
August 10, 2012 9:28 PM - bxgrl
It will Scott, it will.

Snappy- I hope you're feeling better. wish there were something I could do. And waiting to hear how BSM's surgery went. I hate being up here waiting on all this news :(
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:28 PM
August 10, 2012 9:35 PM - rf
Scott, all the best from my house to yours. That doesn't sound like fun at all! It is amazing how some people live for drama. Not me!
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:35 PM
August 10, 2012 9:36 PM - rf
Long day, very sad, too much driving. Done!
August 10, 2012 9:37 PM - BoerumHillScott
I don't anyone would post here if they did not live for drama.
Well, either drama or molding.

just kidding.

Thanks everyone.

August 10, 2012 9:40 PM - rf
Hey, that's why I miss Rob! I like my drama lived vicariously!
Edited at August 10, 2012 9:39 PM
August 10, 2012 11:46 PM - Partridge
snappy, please check in.

rf, glad you are safe, sound and at home.

BHS, I raise you one fuckity fuck.


Edited at August 10, 2012 11:46 PM
August 11, 2012 2:15 AM - kazootite
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Edited at August 11, 2012 2:15 AM
August 11, 2012 3:46 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
alive. icky, but alive.
Edited at August 11, 2012 3:46 AM