Wednesday Open Thread
April 18, 2012 7:22 AM - CGar

469 comments
April 18, 2012 7:42 AM - Arkady
Legion - Be careful! Legend has it that Aeschylus was killed by a clam dropped by a seagull.
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#1
April 18, 2012 7:52 AM - CGar
[Should I be terribly concerned that Puma is having an imaginary conversation???]
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#2
April 18, 2012 8:06 AM - dibs
Yeah, what's up with that????


Lunch today at the Chatham Squiure
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#3
April 18, 2012 8:18 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM

Arkady, Perhaps it might just knock some sense into his head. : P
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#4
April 18, 2012 8:18 AM - More4Less
CGar, that pic brings back bad memories for me - ie got out bid by a big warchest cash buyer for a fixer house nearby there. That far left house is making decent progress on their reno. there was no work done for the longest time after they bought it
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#5
April 18, 2012 8:19 AM - More4Less
Dave, has the bentley gotten you some attention you didn't get prior to its purchase - ie caught any eye candy's attention as you drove slowly down the choice blocks???
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#6
April 18, 2012 8:27 AM - More4Less
agent (who is helping me rent / sell my current place) gave me an incredulous response when I asked him if his svcs included a rental lease agreement. I was thinking it doesn't hurt to ask (as I'm clueless what svcs they provide other than the credit chk stuff) and if no, no biggie as I can go use the freebies some of these websites offer on leases etc. His reaction nearly triggered me busting out Rob's "Chillax" response - sometimes, it's alarming how much us PLUSAs have affected each other
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#7
April 18, 2012 8:34 AM - More4Less
Let's Go Rangers!!!
Let's Go Rangers!!!
Let's Go Rangers!!!

Anyone has extra tix or a sweet suite box that I can go to for game 5 where we might wrap up this series???
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#8
April 18, 2012 8:37 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Too true, M4L. I have to stifle a STFU more often than I'd like. ; )
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#9
April 18, 2012 8:40 AM - Slopefarm
My biggest fear is referring to my wife as Mrs. Slopey in a conversation.
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April 18, 2012 8:42 AM - More4Less
Cobble, thanks to Dave, every time I use "versatile" to describe a professional athlete, it just has a very very different meaning & image in my head now.
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April 18, 2012 8:42 AM - Slopefarm
Well, maybe that's not my BIGGEST fear, but I do worry about it and almost did it once or twice.
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#12
April 18, 2012 8:43 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yes, I worry about referring to "BH" vs. using his real name with non-PLUSAs.
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#13
April 18, 2012 8:43 AM - dibs
m4l, on sunday i stopped at the Mexican restaurant to pick up some burritos. VERY hot guy behind the counter with the guns and buns. he left and went to clean off some tables up front and saw the car through the window and asked me if it was mine. he wanted to know what horsepower it was.

I'll be seeing more of him

I just got back from the dump here in PTown and the guy there said "WOW, I thought I'd seen everything here at the dump but never imagined someone coming in in one of those"
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#14
April 18, 2012 8:45 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
M4L, that's hilarious, yes, yes, I know what you mean. We've twisted and warped reality here in our little world!
#15
April 18, 2012 8:47 AM - More4Less
Dave, you think that hot dude is on your team or you think you can convert him?
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April 18, 2012 8:47 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
(Note to self: Add PLUSA dictionary addenda to PLUSA Manual.)
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April 18, 2012 8:48 AM - Slopefarm
I suppose, dp, that our problems pale compared to all of the mental effort a certain someone must expend to make sure he keeps, um straight, about who knows about who else and who doesn't and not to let the wrong name slip to the wrong person. I would highly recommend he start in on the anti-alzheimers drugs now.
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April 18, 2012 8:50 AM - the chicken
> Dave, you think that hot dude is on your team or you think you can convert him?

Is "conversion" possible?
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April 18, 2012 8:52 AM - More4Less
slopey, "he" doesn't realize that we've hacked his so called "safe" and that we all know the secrets in there - including those few boxes that he has stored away in that "secret spot"
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April 18, 2012 8:53 AM - Slopefarm
m4l -- the issue isn't what WE know.
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#21
April 18, 2012 8:53 AM - CGar
I didn't get the memo - ARKADY!! - that the temperature was going to drop 40 degrees overnight.
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#22
April 18, 2012 8:54 AM - More4Less
Chicken, Dave can be very persuasive with men. don't underestimate his abilities in that area - ie boy gots skillzzzzz
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#23
April 18, 2012 8:56 AM - More4Less
Oh no, "he" is here. someone please erase my post before "he" sees that we know it all.
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#24
April 18, 2012 8:56 AM - Slopefarm
Semi-serious question about the photo. Do you like the curlicues at the top of the porch on the blue house, or the clean lines without the curlicues on the green house? (Wondeing if chez slopey could use a little gingerbread treatment.)
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April 18, 2012 8:58 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I would highly recommend he start in on the anti-alzheimers drugs now."

Snort!
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April 18, 2012 8:58 AM - More4Less
slope, stick with the cleaner lines of the green one
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April 18, 2012 9:00 AM - Slopefarm
I tend to agree, m4l.
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April 18, 2012 9:00 AM - More4Less
slopey, you have the wide ass steps like those 2 houses too?? the wide steps & front porch is a killer combo.
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April 18, 2012 9:01 AM - DeLepp
Green house details look better, like a tuxedo vs a caftan.
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#30
April 18, 2012 9:05 AM - Slopefarm
Agree, delepp. M4l, sometime in the past, someone put in a brick stoop on our house (and it's a good 7-8 steps up). Stoop was in disrepair, so we left the brick structure but put in limestone slabs for steps -- easier to maintain and less busy-looking. I wish we had the old wood steps, which are more elegant. The landing is also enclosed, so you can't get to the front porch without going though the front door -- which makes the porch largely a visual, and not really useful.
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#31
April 18, 2012 9:13 AM - Arkady
I prefer the green as well. If anything, the gingerbread might look better on it since it's taller & wouldn't be so 'busy'.
After having been castigated several times & held responsible for changes in weather, I have stopped forecasting.
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#32
April 18, 2012 9:16 AM - DeLepp
slopey, I spoke to the owner of the green house a couple of years ago, congratulated him on a terrific paint job and his response "wood frame never again"!
Limestone is lovely. It's why I think 9th street is livable despite traffic.
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#33
April 18, 2012 9:18 AM - dibs
Conversion is oftentimes made easier with $$$$$$$
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#34
April 18, 2012 9:18 AM - wendybear1
Hi everyone! I just wanted to say hello since I've been away from the OT for weeks. I'm going back into treatment tomorrow, so I'm just around for the day.
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April 18, 2012 9:20 AM - rf
quote:
Chicken, Dave can be very persuasive with men. don't underestimate his abilities in that area - ie boy gots skillzzzzz

Never underestimate the persuasive power of money!
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#36
April 18, 2012 9:21 AM - rf
Jinx, Dave!
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#37
April 18, 2012 9:21 AM - rf
Hi Wendy.
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#38
April 18, 2012 9:22 AM - Slopefarm
Well, limestone is elegant, but the only limestone we have are the steps in front. PLG has great limestones, also 3rd st between 5-6 has a nice row of wide limestone coops. 6 years in and we are repainting all the trim and getting a new cornice (but only because the previous idiots didn't tie it the old one into the roof correctly). Paint is holding up fine on the hardiplank, though. really glad we didn't use real wood siding.
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#39
April 18, 2012 9:23 AM - DeLepp
hey wendy, good luck.
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#40
April 18, 2012 9:24 AM - Slopefarm
Good luck, Wendy!
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#41
April 18, 2012 9:30 AM - dibs
Hi Wendy. GOOD LUCK.
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#42
April 18, 2012 9:33 AM - More4Less
Wendy, good luck - you're overdue for some of it. keep making lemonade out of all these twists & turns life is throwing at you now.
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#43
April 18, 2012 9:38 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Hi Wendy, Best wishes for you.
#44
April 18, 2012 9:53 AM - Slopefarm
"Conversion is oftentimes made easier with $$$$$$$"

Speaking of $$$$$$$, next time jackal wants to waltz in here at the end of a day and get an executive summary, he needs to contract for those services in advance (and, of course, bill the expense to one of SSCJ&L's clients). He keeps claiming he's not 1% but he sure acts with a 1%er's sense of entitlement.

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#45
April 18, 2012 9:53 AM - Donatella
Hi Wendy, hope things are getting better day by day. Good luck to you!
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#46
April 18, 2012 9:55 AM - Donatella
Speaking of the influence of the OT, I was walking down the street the other day and this Hispanic man flashed me a big flirtaceous smile. He had dos dedos and was cross-eyed. In a nano-second, I thought of dibs.
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#47
April 18, 2012 9:59 AM - MontroseMorris
Hi Wendy, We are all sending you good thoughts and well wishes. Get well soon!
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#48
April 18, 2012 10:00 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I find myself looking at various people when I'm out and about, trying to guess if they'd be DIBS type. It's become a sport of sorts. For instance, I was on the subway yesterday and saw a guy that I thought fit the bill. I have to be careful not to look too long, lest they take it the wrong way and think I'm interested!! (Imagining THAT convo... "Oh, I'm so sorry, no, I was looking at you because a friend of mine...oh never mind! Gotta run!" : P)
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#49
April 18, 2012 10:05 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
OK, serious question: I have found THREE of these ON OUR BED, while I was making it, over the past few days. What the hell are they and please don't tell me bedbugs...

I have flushed them all down the toilet after squishing them.
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#50
April 18, 2012 10:07 AM - More4Less
I can only tell you it aint no spider as I counted 6 legs. It doesn't look like a bed bug. time for bug screens if you don't already have them on the windows.
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#51
April 18, 2012 10:09 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Hmm, good point, M4L, we've had the windows open a lot recently.
#52
April 18, 2012 10:10 AM - Slopefarm
Amazing thsat dibs has so many of us scouting for him when he obviously doesn't need our help (or should I say assistance--if I had "help" he'd certainly want a report). Other things I do --

1. I ask the price of ice cream before I order it.
2. I was in one of Brooklyn's historic churches a while back and the recessed lighting in the ceiling was really getting on my nerves.
3. I always use the word "difficult" in lieu of "hard" when I mean difficult.
4. I randomly start composing haiku when I drive or take a train over a bridge or alongside a body of water.




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#53
April 18, 2012 10:10 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"3. I always use the word "difficult" in lieu of "hard" when I mean difficult."

BAH HA HA HA HA HA! So do I!!!
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#54
April 18, 2012 10:17 AM - More4Less
Slopey, speaking of not soft, Melo certainly aint no marshmellow recently. he a beast - the one we expected to see when we unloaded the whole team for him last yr.
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April 18, 2012 10:23 AM - petebklyn
google stink bugs--- doesn't quite look like one from the pic though.

gotta run...enjoy the day all.
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#56
April 18, 2012 10:24 AM - Slopefarm
Agreed, m4l, he's been great (nh) but he cannot carry team past first round by himself. It's like when Knicks had Bernard King. My fellow Jew Amar'e is back, maybe Friday. I read he's sporting pais, I mean cornrows, now.
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April 18, 2012 10:25 AM - Arkady
Definitely not a stink bug.
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April 18, 2012 10:28 AM - More4Less
Slopey, I want the knicks to face Bulls or Heat in 1st round so we can find out which player(s) to cut loose, keep, add etc in off season. We aint winning trophy this yr so might as well find out what we have and re-tool to beat these 2 teams next yr to get to finals.
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April 18, 2012 10:28 AM - Arkady
CHiller - Google pix of Shiny Spider Beetle to compare. Looks close to me.
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April 18, 2012 10:29 AM - Slopefarm
Are we on day 2 of no rob, or did he show up last night? Should we be worried? Or proud he's finally launched? Bit of empty nest syndrome around here today.
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April 18, 2012 10:36 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Arkady, Thank you, that's it, for sure.

Crap, now what do I do. I can see I'm going to have to rip the whole bed apart, we have drawers filled with bedding and clothes under the bed. : (
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April 18, 2012 10:37 AM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: "Slopey, I want the knicks to face Bulls or Heat in 1st round so we can find out which player(s) to cut loose, keep, add etc in off season."

Idiotic comments like this is why I stay away from y'all. The Knick could wind up in the 7 if Orlando keeps losing.
Lookie here---> http://www.nba.com/statistics/playoff_picture.html

And why do you want to rid of anyone on this year's roster, just let the whole team come back next year, give Woodson a training camp and let's see what happens.

Anyway I feel great today! Why you ask??? It's nap time over there---->
The Covert Race / Class bullshit don't bring retards like it used to!
Very nice!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...
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#63
April 18, 2012 10:39 AM - Donatella
I hope *rob* is enjoying the nice weather. A break from the OT could be a good thing.

Other influences of the OT:

In my own stream of consciousness, I find myself using a new vocabulary (no, I have to say I resist *rob*'s new words) that include STFU, dumbass, and a few other choice words. Although I no longer flip people the bird, after almost being run off the road last summer, within the safety of my own windowed up car, I call people all kinds of new names.

BTW, Benson changed his avatar to A CRUISE SHIP!!!!!!!!!! ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!
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#64
April 18, 2012 10:41 AM - Donatella

What, what are you studying so late at night??
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April 18, 2012 10:42 AM - Deleted
Yes, I have found a new avatar!

Wendy: I hope for all the best for you in the days ahead.
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#66
April 18, 2012 10:44 AM - Deleted
I won't be posting today. However, I will be lurking to make sure that the moral preening is kept to a minimum. I'd like some of you to work on that.
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April 18, 2012 10:44 AM - Slopefarm
"And why do you want to rid of anyone on this year's roster, just let the whole team come back next year, give Woodson a training camp and let's see what happens."

Don't fall off your chair, what, but I completely agree. I was skeptical of Woodson at first given some of the noises coming out of the Knicks camp right after the coaching change, but the whole team responded to him, he coaches good team D, and coaches to the players' strengths, not wedded to a system. A lot of good players on the team now, let's see what they do with a full training camp under Woodson to mesh the team and develop an identity. Of course, we have to hope Dolan doesn't do something really stupid in the offseason (cough Calipari cough Isiah cough trade half the team for Nash cough).
#68
April 18, 2012 10:46 AM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: Well since my business is down by 70% (Yeah that's right)
I have to re-learn everything so I don't go broke!
I have a Multi Media Company that provide Digital Services to the Hood.
So I have to "sharpen the sword" every night. The jobs America lost aint coming back, you have to be self employed
and pray for the best.

The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
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#69
April 18, 2012 10:46 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
SONOFAB*TCH! I just found two more of these same bugs when I moved the night table on MY side of the bed. Crappity-crap-crap-crap!
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April 18, 2012 10:49 AM - More4Less
WHAT, you mean 6th spot right? you loving Fields' MIA mode??? JR is gone - he aint staying next yr for peanuts. we need to find money for Novak - think signed peanut 1 yr deal (he our version of jordan's kerr, paxson, hodges). is jeffries health holding up??? is harrelson going tobe our bruiser?? is bibby as doe as he looks so far? can douglas play some solid point minutes? lots of questions. rather find out playing against the best teamsin east.
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#71
April 18, 2012 10:50 AM - Slopefarm
"I will be lurking to make sure that the moral preening is kept to a minimum. I'd like some of you to work on that."

[Trying to decide whether fox/henhouse or pot/kettle is the more apt response.]
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#72
April 18, 2012 10:53 AM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: "Don't fall off your chair, what, but I completely agree. I was skeptical of Woodson at first given some of the noises coming out of the Knicks camp right after the coaching change, but the whole team responded to him, he coaches good team D, and coaches to the players' strengths, not wedded to a system."

Defense wins Championships! The Halfcourt Game wins Championships and a good coach will use his strengths and not put his bullshit on the team.

Mike D'Antoni wanted to play "Crack Basketball" and it cost the Knicks games. The whole Lin thing was nice until the scouts started to look at his film. Notice after a month the other team shut down the paint area and that was the end of 'Linsanity'! Did Mike D'Antoni make adjustments? NO! Mike D'Antoni took the ball away from Melo and the team suffered! I'm glad Woodson put a stop to that bullshit! Melo is a Superstar and he get to take 25-40 shots a game! The Knicks could go to the conference finals this year is Stat comes back and they keep up the defensive intensity!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...
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#73
April 18, 2012 10:54 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm going with Pot/Kettle, Slopey.

Ok, anyone have any suggestions as to how to deal with this bug infestation. Do I call the LL, the Super, Pest Control? Any rec's for a Pest control co.?
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#74
April 18, 2012 10:56 AM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: WHAT, you mean 6th spot right?

Yep!

you loving Fields' MIA mode???

His play has picked up as of late

JR is gone - he aint staying next yr for peanuts.

I don't know, Maybe he might stay

we need to find money for Novak - think signed peanut 1 yr deal (he our version of jordan's kerr, paxson, hodges).

he's staying too

is jeffries health holding up???

he'll stay for peanuts

is harrelson going tobe our bruiser??

Who????

is bibby as doe as he looks so far?

Gone!

can douglas play some solid point minutes?

Gone!l

The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
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#75
April 18, 2012 10:58 AM - Donatella
I googled the bug, cobble, it could be some variant of a beetle or a Lablab bug. It is NOT a roach, stinkbug, bedbug, louse or tick.

What, you are right about "sharpening the sword" with skills, and it is a different job environment completely. It is easy to live in the past, but it will bankrupt a person. Good luck.

Benson, I don't have time to do moral preening on line today, I'll have to do it alone while I get ready to go out.

Later, losers.
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April 18, 2012 10:58 AM - More4Less
if we make deep run this playoff, Davis will have to look like old davis vs. the current still-hurt davis. Lin still suffers from shitty D and high turnovers but the boy can get into the lane for dimes, points, or free throws. Stat was the beast for us before Melo trade - hope it's the bad back vs can't co-exist with Melo. if Stat is beast, we can get to finals and possibly win it all.
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#77
April 18, 2012 11:00 AM - Slopefarm
I agree about 85%, what. Half court game needs ball movement and off the ball movement (nh, nh, etc). The rest of the O has to be a threat and the team only gets so far with the ball dying in Melo's hands. MJ used his team better than Melo does on a typical day, but I see improvement. I also think with some disciplined coaching from Woodson, Lin becomes a solid PG who makes the offise work. Team did well with Lin under Woodson. Lin's got one whole summer to learn how to go to his left, and he knows it.
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#78
April 18, 2012 11:01 AM - Donatella

Oh, before I REALLY go, I was thinking of moral preening on the subway yesterday. I am so GRATEFUL to Benson, because the possibilities for this phrase here are endless. I was sitting on the train and I realize I must have had a demented smile on my face, the kind of strange happy smile that usually scares people.

Thank you, Benson.

Really going now....... have a good day, losers.
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#79
April 18, 2012 11:02 AM - Deleted
Getting touchy again there, Slopey??
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#80
April 18, 2012 11:02 AM - More4Less
wonder if Nets have any interest in a sign & trade scenario of Amare for Humphries, brooks, & filller to equalize cap space. Don't understand why Nets have no interest in keeping humpries - white boy can ball
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#81
April 18, 2012 11:02 AM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: "if we make deep run this playoff, Davis will have to look like old davis vs. the current still-hurt davis."

Don't need a point guard *I know I said it*, just bring the ball up!

"Stat was the beast for us before Melo trade - hope it's the bad back vs can't co-exist with Melo."

Woodson has done a great job with that . They was playing nicely together before stat went down.
Stat might come off the bench in the playoff, that would be very nice!

Remember M4L The Knicks a playing Playoff Defensive Basketball! That type of D can take you real deep into the playoffs!

The What
Someday this war is gonna end...


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#82
April 18, 2012 11:03 AM - rf
Cobble, call the super and if you don't get a satisfactory answer, call the landlord.
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#83
April 18, 2012 11:03 AM - CGar
cobble, it looks like a baby cockroach.
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#84
April 18, 2012 11:05 AM - More4Less
Lin sells tickets, stadium ads, jerseys, etc - if not for that, he doesn't deserve the $5M/yr contract he'll get this offseason. He could be worth it but so far, he hasn't shown enough to deserve that pay.
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#85
April 18, 2012 11:07 AM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: "the rest of the O has to be a threat and the team only gets so far with the ball dying in Melo's "
OOOHHHHHH ----->Have you notice Melo passes the ball out of the double team!!!!
How do you think Novocain get wide open three's. I know Woodson got on Melo's ass and driving to the basket and finding the open man to the three point line. Melo is not dribbling the ball and everyone is standing around watching him!
Melo had a Tripple Double last night!

The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Edited at April 18, 2012 11:07 AM
#86
April 18, 2012 11:08 AM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: "Lin sells tickets, stadium ads, jerseys, etc - if not for that, he doesn't deserve the $5M/yr contract he'll get this offseason. He could be worth it but so far, he hasn't shown enough to deserve that pay."

Linsanity is dead! Melo will take it from here, thank you very much!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end..
Edited at April 18, 2012 11:08 AM
#87
April 18, 2012 11:10 AM - More4Less
WHAT, if Melo doesn't have to carry so much of the playmaking role (ie dimes should be via point), he can be even more efficient. we can't have him do all that dribbling, playmaking etc and expect him to hold up throughout playoffs. the guards need to penetrate, dish, swing the ball etc so Melo can just coast into his fav elbow spot and just look to score. Chandler is worth every cent - better than expected. Iman can't shoot but his tremendous D more than justify us taking him in draft. Fields been sub-par to MIA ever since Melo joined team. Dude has small or no set of balls. with no Lin now and offense flowing thru Melo, he should be riding bench. Seems like a good dude but disappears too easy & often recently
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#88
April 18, 2012 11:12 AM - Slopefarm
"Melo had a Tripple Double last night!"

Yes, a very good sign.

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#89
April 18, 2012 11:13 AM - More4Less
WHAT, linsanity on the court might be dead but he still generating lots of cash for Knicks - ie like there's another Asian brother to pitch shit to Asian??? as long as he is decent, he'll generate lots of cash for franchise - don't know about the wins though
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#90
April 18, 2012 11:14 AM - More4Less
Lin was playing well before he went down too. think he was avg 16 pts 8 dimes near 50% fg% and 3 TO's. good enough for us if our stars earn their paychecks.
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#91
April 18, 2012 11:16 AM - Arkady
CHiller- I'm pretty sure it's a spider beetle. I use:
438 Court Street Brooklyn, NY 11231
(718) 237-0989
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#92
April 18, 2012 11:17 AM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: "Lin sells tickets, stadium ads, jerseys, etc - if not for that, he doesn't deserve the $5M/yr contract he'll get this offseason. He could be worth it but so far, he hasn't shown enough to deserve that pay."

MSG is a FUCKING ATM Machine M4L! It was before Lin and will be one after him. Do you think Woodson is gonna let Lin "run wild" in his system?? Hell to the No! And if the Knicks go deep in the Playoffs, say goodbye to Lin! Maybe Lin will play under D'An in his crack basketball system somewhere else!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end..
Edited at April 18, 2012 11:17 AM
#93
April 18, 2012 11:18 AM - Arkady
Put one or two into a small phial w/ alcohol - denatured or even just vodka - & take it to Empire - he'll tell you what it is & how to deal w/ it.
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#94
April 18, 2012 11:18 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
CGar, Nope, definitely not a baby roach. It's a Shiny Spider Beetle for sure. Or some type of Spider Beetle—who knew there were so many.

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#95
April 18, 2012 11:19 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
OK, thanks very much, will do, Arkady. Have to find one more, so far I've flushed them all down the toilet!
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#96
April 18, 2012 11:20 AM - Slopefarm
Lin will be a cheap re-sign and can play decently under Woodson's control and without running wild. Already familiar with teammates' tendencies. Better than a new PG unless a real upgrade is in the offing. Again, we want the team to mesh next fall.
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#97
April 18, 2012 11:21 AM - Slopefarm
If it weren't for hoops, spider beetles and a fear of moral preening, this thread died an hour ago.
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#98
April 18, 2012 11:22 AM - rf
Cobble, it wouldn't hurt to ask the super. Could be that you're not the only one in the building with this problem.
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#99
April 18, 2012 11:23 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I try to do my part, Slopey! ; )
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April 18, 2012 11:25 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yes, I had that thought as well, rf. I'll track him down later this afternoon when I get back from the city.
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April 18, 2012 11:37 AM - Slopefarm
btw, what, if you are still here, do you or did you play any hoops in Brooklyn -- playground, school, etc.?
April 18, 2012 11:39 AM - More4Less
WHAT, Lin is mkt extension. he aint carrying franchise at cash register but he does add to line at the register - he adds those fringe Asian fans. Dolan needs every contributing factor as he jacked up tix prices big twice (beginning of this season and the announced one for next season). if Davis doesn't recover to old Davis or signs elsewhere, Lin is our best option. Iman great defender but he can't be point. biddy is more than an empty shell. douglas is atrocious at point. Nash aint going to sign for the $5M min. Lin likely our best option as far as we can tell now.
April 18, 2012 11:42 AM - More4Less
I know other than CGar here, no one else cares about rangers but

Let's Go Rangers!!!
Let's Go Rangers!!!
Let's Go Rangers!!!

Let's kick some Canadian Asses!!!!!!! Long live the King!!!!
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April 18, 2012 11:44 AM - CGar
"It's a Shiny Spider Beetle for sure. Or some type of Spider Beetle—who knew there were so many."

Serves you right for abandoning me and moving to the suburbs.
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April 18, 2012 11:45 AM - CGar
"Cobble, it wouldn't hurt to ask the super."

Cobble, it wouldn't hurt to ask the bug first.
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April 18, 2012 11:46 AM - CGar
"I know other than CGar here, no one else cares about rangers"

DeLepp, Kens and Biff do. Biff yelled at me the other night for taking Sam and Max to the dog run while the game was on.


Edited at April 18, 2012 11:46 AM
April 18, 2012 11:47 AM - Deleted
With the recent return of The What and The Chicken, I was wondering: does anyone really ever escape from The Brownstoner universe, or this breakaway republic known as LifeinBkln????? Yeah, folks may drift away for a while, but few ever really make a clean get-away.
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April 18, 2012 11:47 AM - More4Less
Cobble, if you're to pay for them bug screens, they're around 50-75 a pop for decent ones (measure, made, & installed).
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April 18, 2012 11:47 AM - CGar
"when I get back from the city"

Newsflash, cobble, you're already IN the city. Brooklyn, as you may have heard, became part of "the city" in 1898.
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April 18, 2012 11:49 AM - CGar
m4l, did I tell you that Sam and Max have official Rangers collars and leashes??? Of course, Max removed his Rangers collar 3 times and finally chewed it in half so I couldn't put it back on him.
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April 18, 2012 11:50 AM - Slopefarm
benson, have you been to the new hat store on 5th Avenear Union?
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April 18, 2012 11:52 AM - More4Less
CGar, can Biff sneak us into the corp suite box for game 5 when we close out the series???
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April 18, 2012 11:53 AM - Deleted
Slopey;

Not yet. Planning to go soon, though.
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April 18, 2012 11:54 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Serves you right for abandoning me and moving to the suburbs."

It really feels like that some days...and yes, I know Brooklyn is part of NYC, but we've always said that, and will continue to say that despite whatever you NEW COMERS say! ; ) (Back me up here, What!)
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April 18, 2012 11:55 AM - Deleted
Cobble is correct. Brooklyn natives refer to Manhattan as "The City".
April 18, 2012 11:55 AM - CGar
Are you kidding me? Biff doesn't have access to any corporate suite box. Apropos of your question about prices, he and I talked about getting tix during the regular season - to take the Champs - and the prices were prohibitive.
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April 18, 2012 11:56 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
M4L, I suspect this did not come in the window. We have screens on all of the windows but not the bedroom. I have to talk to LL and Super about that. I have a feeling they were broken and removed.
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April 18, 2012 11:57 AM - Slopefarm
Coincidentally, we found another of their stores in New Orleans recently. Farmhand bought a pretty cool plaid cap. No borsalinos, but it looked like they might have some hats you would like. I tried a bunch on but i don't think I look good in a hat.
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April 18, 2012 11:57 AM - CGar
Fine, cobble, see if I try and give you any more advice on your roach and bedbug infestation.
April 18, 2012 11:57 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Cobble is correct. Brooklyn natives refer to Manhattan as "The City"."

Oh cripes, don't start agreeing with me now, benson! : P
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April 18, 2012 11:58 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
They're not roaches or bed bugs. They are some kind of spider beetle. And I really need to stop talking about them now, I almost couldn't eat my lunch, while thinking about them!
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April 18, 2012 11:59 AM - More4Less
after Rangers win Cup, it'll be even higher prices next year.
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April 18, 2012 12:00 PM - Deleted
Sorry Cobble. Temporary lapse of judgment there :-)
April 18, 2012 12:01 PM - Slopefarm
Well, I agreed with both what and benson yesterday in a single sentence -- and they were arguing with each other at the time, too!
April 18, 2012 12:02 PM - CGar
I was trying to get tix in the nosebleed seats, and, as I recall they were like $800 - $1,200 apiece. Granted, it was for the Rangers-Bruins, but I was only looking for tix for Sunday afternoon games.
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April 18, 2012 12:02 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Slopey, Just don't let it happen again, 'k? : P
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April 18, 2012 12:03 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"as I recall they were like $800 - $1,200 apiece"

That's crazy, CGar! Why on earth are they sooo expensive? I'm sorry, but that's just wrong.
April 18, 2012 12:04 PM - Donatella
Staten Islanders refer to Manhattan as "the City" too. We also used to say we were walking "to town", when taking the couple of block walk to the commercial area of my old neighborhood.
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April 18, 2012 12:04 PM - CGar
They were ticket re-sales, cobble, from season ticket holders, so I assume they were on the ice! No different than what my stepmother would do with U.S. Open tickets every year.
April 18, 2012 12:06 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
We also used to say we were 'going Downtown' when walking to Fulton Street. Or 'walking up to the Heights' when walking to Montague Street.
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April 18, 2012 12:07 PM - Arkady
On the rare occasions that I leave our fair borough for Manhattan I say I'm going into town. Got used to it in London where going to 'the City' meant the one square mile of the original Londinium.
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April 18, 2012 12:07 PM - More4Less
thank god there's the Mets franchise with their $2.50 tix for get-away games earlier in the season.
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April 18, 2012 12:08 PM - Arkady
In DC, uptown is where the trolley cars use overhead wires & downtown is where they take power from a slot in the roadbed.
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April 18, 2012 12:08 PM - bxgrl
Growing up in the Bronx we always referred to Manhattan just as "downtown."

Slopes- to get back to your gingerbread question- yes on the gingerbread but a little less curlique than the gingerbread on that house. I love those old frame houses but I am so glad I am buying a brick. Especially after seeing what a poorly kep up wood frame looks like. In one of them, you could practice downhill racing on the upper floors.
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April 18, 2012 12:09 PM - More4Less
CGar, I'll be living in "the city" soon.
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April 18, 2012 12:12 PM - CGar
cobble, just read over there that Sadie's on DeGraw is closed for "summer renovations". I've never seen anyone in there, and it seemed closed more often than not, so I'm not surprised. But, it's such a great space that I'm surprised nothing can make a go of it there. Also, I never saw them do any advertising or promotion, which I think was a mistake.
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April 18, 2012 12:12 PM - Slopefarm
"In one of them, you could practice downhill racing on the upper floors."

Yes. Like in the old batman TV show, when they would tilt the camera for the fight scenes? I' ve got a room like that on the top floor.
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April 18, 2012 12:13 PM - CGar
"I say I'm going into town"

And I poke you for it (nh) every time.
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April 18, 2012 12:13 PM - More4Less
bxgrl, still can't believe your troy house's asking price.
April 18, 2012 12:14 PM - CGar
Puma, issue resolved favorably. If my loss of employment is "involuntary", I can terminate the contract and get my downpayment back.
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April 18, 2012 12:17 PM - More4Less
CGar, but WOULD you want the down payment back if bank is still willing to originate the mortgage to you????
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April 18, 2012 12:18 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"just read over there that Sadie's on DeGraw is closed for "summer renovations"."

I think that spot is 'cursed', no one has really had any success since it was Dom's deli and candy store a 'million years ago'. Sad, really.
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April 18, 2012 12:19 PM - More4Less
as ballsy as I was in willing to buy fixer slopping houses, I never have the balls to buy a bad fixer frame house.
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April 18, 2012 12:19 PM - CGar
No, m4l, but it's a mortgage contingency / funding contingency issue, i.e., if the bank won't fund because I am fired, laid off, etc., I can't be obligated either to go through with the purchase or lose my downpayment.
Edited at April 18, 2012 12:19 PM
April 18, 2012 12:20 PM - CGar
I agree, cobble. It needs a Cobble Grill-type place to go in there that becomes a neighborhood fave. And it needs to let people know it exists.

Aren't you supposed to be going to Manhattan???
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April 18, 2012 12:20 PM - More4Less
am seeing many NEW moonfacey joints in the fringe areas of clinton hill bit or about to bite the dust - too bad no one asked them to launder money out of those spots.
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April 18, 2012 12:22 PM - CGar
"too bad no one asked them to launder money out of those spots."

I'm pretty sure that's what all the Psychic places do.
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April 18, 2012 12:22 PM - bxgrl
M4L- I'll email you what I actually paid for it :)
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April 18, 2012 12:22 PM - More4Less
CGar, just tell seller you'll simply make things more simple by buying it all-cash at 900k - like I proposed to that greedy old man in Boerum Hill
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April 18, 2012 12:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I agree, or a Ted & Honey type place, would be great. (wasn't it supposed to be them running it???)

I'm going into the city in a few minutes, I just have to put my shoes on!


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April 18, 2012 12:24 PM - More4Less
bxgrl, you told me a super low price last time I saw you - don't know if you were referring to the ASK or the contracted price.
Edited at April 18, 2012 12:24 PM
April 18, 2012 12:27 PM - More4Less
CGar, kidding aside, money laundering proposals (if not made before a joint is opened) is more likely to come to an existing joint that's been around for a long time already than a relatively new place. I feel lots of places might be laundering money as I often don't see any traffice in them to believe they're making any profits or profits big enough to deal with all that bullshit of owning/running a small retail biz
Edited at April 18, 2012 12:27 PM
April 18, 2012 12:28 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
M4L, remind me to tell you the story of a place where I worked in HS. Surely something hinky going on there!
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April 18, 2012 12:29 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Later, gators!
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April 18, 2012 12:31 PM - CGar
"a place where I worked in HS. Surely something hinky going on there!"

Re-write: a place where I worked in HS. Surely something kinky going on there!
Edited at April 18, 2012 12:31 PM
April 18, 2012 12:32 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
HINKY not KINKY!! You bad man!

Ok, gotta run INTO THE CITY now! ; )
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April 18, 2012 12:48 PM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: "am seeing many NEW moonfacey joints in the fringe areas of clinton hill bit or about to bite the dust - too bad no one asked them to launder money out of those spots."

Yep, biting the big one!

Why Brownstoner didn't mention the closing of Joloff Restaurant on St. James and Fulton St.?????
They move over to Before Ave...

The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
Edited at April 18, 2012 12:48 PM
April 18, 2012 12:48 PM - Arkady
I'm out for a while too - gotta go over the road.
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April 18, 2012 12:52 PM - CGar
Nice try, but I'm not biting, Puma.
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April 18, 2012 12:57 PM - Donatella

There is a Magic Soul Food now where Just Taste it used to be. Before Just taste it, there was a fish place. Just give me a damn green grocer so I don't have a 30 minute excursion for vegetables. Near the Clinton/Washington stop. Am I asking too much???? What we dont need are more nail, hair, or real estate places. What we need is PARSLEY.
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April 18, 2012 12:59 PM - CGar
^^^ So, perhaps, rather than bitch about it in the OT every day :-), YOU should open a green grocer. If you want an investor, count me in.
April 18, 2012 1:02 PM - More4Less
CGar, that's a shitty biz man. if you don't wise up, you'll be investing soon in some worm hole space travel biz.
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April 18, 2012 1:07 PM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: Dontella
<---------Join the "Greene Hill Food Co-Op"
Yes you can shop with Fart Sniffing Jackasses!
Organic ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!!

The What *Yes I have some extra time today*
Someday this war is gonna end...
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:07 PM
April 18, 2012 1:08 PM - Donatella

In my last gig, I used to work late writing market commentary. I befriended the cleaning lady, who is a lovely Columbian woman. We would idlely talk about opening a Comida Latina restaurant around here. She actually opened a restaurant in Union City, which her sons run. She was talking about opening something else. God, how I love people like her. So enterprising and creative and can do.

It is a kind of alien idea for me to open a green grocer..... but there really is a need here.
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April 18, 2012 1:10 PM - Donatella

What, do YOU shop over there? Is it good? Do I have to decide on whether or not to boycott Israeli artichokes like in the Park Slope coop? If it is anything like the Park Slope Coop, I don't think I could handle it.
April 18, 2012 1:12 PM - dibs
Just got to the chatham squire. My vacation was practically ruined by the sight of an elizabeth warren bumper sticker
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April 18, 2012 1:14 PM - Donatella

You are so delicate, dibs. I saw a cross-eyed Latino yesterday; I thought of you.
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April 18, 2012 1:16 PM - CGar
m4l, if it's done right it will succeed. Period. No reason donatella and I (and anyone else who isn't too chickenshit to invest) can't open a successful green grocer in Ft. Greene/Clinton Hill and fill a clear need in the nabe. Don't need a lot of space (see, e.g., Green Pea at 181 Atlantic Avenue or Jim & Andy's on Court Street). Just fresh produce from Hunts Point and local growers. And I'd do what Fairway on the UWS used to do (maybe still does). Lower prices for the less perfect looking produce on the sidewalk; higher prices for the pristine produce inside. Not rocket science. Just need to take a chance. And stick to produce. Don't try to turn it into a fancy kind of deli at the same time . . . just like I wouldn't change Montero's.
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April 18, 2012 1:17 PM - Arkady
Dona - Do as I do: grow your own parsley & don't eat lots of veggies.
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April 18, 2012 1:23 PM - More4Less
CGar, Go ahead and I'll wait patiently to deliver the "toldya so"
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April 18, 2012 1:25 PM - etson
"Are you in or are you chickenshit" doesn't sound like the gateway to a great investment.
April 18, 2012 1:26 PM - CGar
m4l, untuck your cojones and man up!! I'll be the one saying Itoldyaso. And if dona continues to ignore my posts, then to hell with her and she can live without fresh produce. No potato skin off my bok (choy). I have no fewer than 5 fresh produce markets within blocks of my apartment.
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:26 PM
April 18, 2012 1:27 PM - CGar
No risk, no reward.
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April 18, 2012 1:28 PM - CGar
[Scratches the Pasty Brit off the investors list]
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April 18, 2012 1:28 PM - etson
CGar = veggie Madoff
April 18, 2012 1:30 PM - CGar
^^^ "No guts, Goodson." --Risky Business.
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April 18, 2012 1:32 PM - More4Less
CGar, It hard to tell what biz will work but it's a ton easier to tell which ones will like bomb, lose you underwear (& no sex involved), blow up your credit, bruise your ego, etc.
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:32 PM
April 18, 2012 1:34 PM - CGar
A green grocer (and not one of your organic artisinal ones) will NOT fail in a nabe that has none.

I don't see that artisinal mayo shop surviving. How much demand is there for $8 / jar mayo??? Particularly when there is Hellman's Real Mayonnaise.
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:37 PM
April 18, 2012 1:34 PM - Donatella
oh sorry, CGar, I was doing some preparation for a business thing tomorrow.

CGar that's interesting. I always wondered why those guys on the s
treet can sell a quart of strawberries for 1 dollar. It is because they are 20 minutes from rotting. Or sprouting mold. Often they already have. I wonder where they get that stuff. A deli section would be nice too; where you can get some prepared foods, non-precious prepared foods.

Arkady, you always have great advice. Do you feel the same way about fruits as vegetables?
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April 18, 2012 1:34 PM - More4Less
etson, CGar is actually the Wilpons (Mets owners who got suckered by Madoff and lost everything) in the madoff context.
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:34 PM
April 18, 2012 1:36 PM - CGar
I am not likely one to get suckered, thanks very much. What a bunch of Debbie Downers you are. Keep on bitching, but don't bother to do anything to change the situation on the ground.
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:36 PM
April 18, 2012 1:38 PM - Donatella

When I used to go to the flea, every now and then, I tasted a sample and almost bought a jar of carmelized onions. A small jar. Until they told me it was 8 bucks. 8 BUCKS. When I put the thing down, the people looked so disappointed. People near me do not need specialty, status enhancing gourmet foods. They need a green grocer and one that stays open too.
April 18, 2012 1:38 PM - More4Less
I don't see you offering to sell some equity stake in Montero's purchase??? Just peddling junk and keeping all the good stuff to yourself???
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April 18, 2012 1:39 PM - CGar
dona, I'm not talking about rotting fruits and veggies. Some people will only buy there fruits and veggies if they look beautiful enough to be on the cover of Martha Stewart. Other people (like me) could give a damn what shape their yellow pepper is and would rather pay less for it.

Also, NO deli, NO prepared foods, at least not until the green market takes off. Sheesh.
April 18, 2012 1:41 PM - CGar
"People near me do not need specialty, status enhancing gourmet foods. They need a green grocer and one that stays open too."

D'oh. That's what I've been saying for the past hour. Too bad dave is so preoccupied with his retirement or surely he would agree.
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:41 PM
April 18, 2012 1:42 PM - CGar
m4l, I've only discussed Montero's with a couple of people. Not like anything is happening any time soon.
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:42 PM
April 18, 2012 1:42 PM - CGar
m4l, I've only discussed Montero's with a couple of people. Not like anything is happening any time soon.
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April 18, 2012 1:42 PM - etson
Maybe he's more like the Vox Pop guy- Unprofitable business as 'community activism'.
Can't wait for the issue of shares that aren't shares.
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:42 PM
April 18, 2012 1:43 PM - Donatella

There is a store that just closed, nearby CGar. It used to be a gangsta clothing shop. It lasted about a year. I wonder what kind of construction you would have to do. There is a HUGE space right on the corner of Vanderbilt and Fulton full of these WEIRD clothes. I think it is some kind of vanity designer showroom. The building I think is owned by the same people for years and and it does NO BUSINESS. That space would be perfect. It is a massive waste of retail space doing NOTHING.
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April 18, 2012 1:45 PM - etson
lol @ gangsta clothing shop.
Clothes sorted by different colors?
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:45 PM
April 18, 2012 1:46 PM - More4Less
CGar, just busting your chops on Montero's. I have zero interest in buying any bars in NYC. the multiples are too ridiculous. the 2-3 times I tried to buy a bar, it was in virginia. If you change your mind and go buy a liquor store, that I would be interested.
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:46 PM
April 18, 2012 1:46 PM - Arkady
When Koreans first started taking over the green grocer biz in NY they worked out of teeny storefronts but managed an artful array of a wide range of produce. Seems to me that's the way to cultivate a new one today in an under-served area.
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April 18, 2012 1:49 PM - etson
Oh I think Monteros is a good business (& I will be a good customer if not banned). Greengrocers not.
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:49 PM
April 18, 2012 1:52 PM - More4Less
[high 5] to etson.
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April 18, 2012 1:54 PM - Donatella

Ok, CGar lets talk about a greengrocer.
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April 18, 2012 1:56 PM - More4Less
[adds CGar, Donatella, etc onto potential buyers list for BK stone bridge for cheap]
Edited at April 18, 2012 1:56 PM
April 18, 2012 1:57 PM - CGar
What Arkady said at 1:46 is exactly what I'm saying.

[Will never invite either m4l or PB to invest with me in anything!]
April 18, 2012 1:57 PM - Donatella
The gangsta clothes were actually a collection of women's clothes with sparkly t-shirts and jersey dresses and men's stuff were bomber jackets, belts, baseball caps, hoodies and jeans. NOBODY in their right mind would buy anything there, least of all, gangsters.
April 18, 2012 2:00 PM - MontroseMorris
CGar, if I had a dime to my name, I'd go in on it with you. I think you are absolutely right.

Whoever opens a classic diner on Nostrand Avenue in CHN will also coin money. Nothing fancy, just to fulfill a need for classic and simple short order cook type food. Burgers, salads, breakfast, baked goods, sammiches, coffee and drinks. I regret I couldn't do it.
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April 18, 2012 2:00 PM - More4Less
CGar, PB and I normally charge a ton for our minority report inputs. heed our advice vs harsh reality slapping you around like a little bi.....
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April 18, 2012 2:01 PM - More4Less
MM, I'm still working on my buddy to buy bldg and open big bakery on Kingston.
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April 18, 2012 2:25 PM - CGar
MM, I agree about the diner, too. Where there's a niche to be filled, there's money to be made.
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April 18, 2012 2:36 PM - bxgrl
CGar- I'm with you also. There are a couple of greengrocers in our area but none really good or close. But when they have the street carts with fresh veggies and fruits, those guys made lots of money. People really wanted fresh greens. And MM is so right about a diner. In fact, in Troy where we are a green grocer would do really really well. Especially with all the college students. So would a kitty boutique ;)

Keep it up, M4L and in a year or 2, I think my e-hubby will be offering you that bridge ;-)
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April 18, 2012 2:42 PM - Deleted
I know nothing about the diner business. Having said that, I can only observe that the number of diners in Brooklyn has been declining markedly over the past 10-15 years, even in areas that were traditionally well-served. I'm not sure why this is happening, but it does indicate that at least the traditional business model (the Greek model, if you will) is not working here like it used to.
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April 18, 2012 2:47 PM - More4Less
bxgrl, I'm always willing to eat lots of crow if that means friends are right & doing well and I was wrong. Hate to see friend lost money, time, & sanity on something that have bad odds stacked against them.
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April 18, 2012 2:49 PM - CGar
"I'm always willing to eat lots of crow"

Who do you think you're kidding? You're always willing to eat lots of everything.
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April 18, 2012 2:49 PM - Arkady
M4L - What if they sold brownies along w/ the fruit & vege?
April 18, 2012 2:51 PM - Donatella

While I am dying for a green grocer and don't doubt that I would be a great customer, I don't know about the business as a business, how the rents vs the revenues work out, any of the nitty gritty of running this business (like if you can have a life outside of this business or if it is like a restaurant or as in the Irish bars, you always need to be there or have family there to watch the till) don't know.
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April 18, 2012 2:51 PM - CGar
cobble, in the category of it's a small world (but I wouldn't want to paint it), I went outside to get my giant container of fresh fruit for lunch, and whom do I see on the sidewalk in front of my building? Our Met Food delivery guy waiting to meet his brother.
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April 18, 2012 2:55 PM - CGar
Nattering nabobs of negativism. And this is why you are 99%ers stuck living in the ghetto . . . with no fresh fruits and vegetables to eat.

Fine by me. I'll just stick to buying a bar in my Top 1% nabe.
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April 18, 2012 2:56 PM - bxgrl
cobble, in the category of it's a small world (but I wouldn't want to paint it)1

So I can't count on you to come to Troy to help paint? :(
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April 18, 2012 2:59 PM - More4Less
Arkady, nope, won't make a difference. the reason is any small niche successful retail biz like green groceries in a gentrified hood is too easily noticed by future competition and one will encounter a ton of me-too's in a blink - ie not that hard to find a decent location and not that expensive to build-out a green grocer spot and not much hard-to-get skills/experience needed to operate. if one insisted on doing this, much better odds of success in an un or less gentrified hood. the margins are skinny and hrs are long and highly cash biz - not ideal for an absentee owner.
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April 18, 2012 3:02 PM - Donatella
Those are questions, CGar. Jeez.
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April 18, 2012 3:03 PM - etson
No you can't have a life outside the business because someone has to be up at the ass crack of dawn to buy all the fruit & veg. And you have to open all day every day including evenings & weekends.

Fine by me. I'll just stick to drinking at bars in my Top 1% nabes.
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April 18, 2012 3:04 PM - Donatella
Are we a gentrified hood, M4L? Just curious. Why has no one done it before?
April 18, 2012 3:19 PM - More4Less
Donatella, yes, we are in gentrified hood. if one is opened and does well, you'll see the me-too's pop up like roach babies. in a gentrified hood, there is assumed tons of addressable mkt for tons of stuff & svcs hence once a new concept proves to be good, the me-too's will pop up as funding is not a problem. green grocers is a volume & scale biz. one can't go in small. if one is going to go in, it's has to be a massive operations so you open with the scale (ie low unit cost & high efficiency) that warts off me-too's (as they more likely to view the big operation as meeting all or most of the addressable mkt, tough to beat, etc. small niche biz that does well but can be easily copied is simply asking for an ass whooping.
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April 18, 2012 3:21 PM - More4Less
etson, you don't think he'll out-work the immigrant operators - be it Korean, Chinese, Hispanic, Arab,..... in this grocer biz???
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April 18, 2012 3:24 PM - etson
Mindless gentrifier name for niche greengrocer - Curated Greens

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April 18, 2012 3:25 PM - Donatella

AY construction hasn't really even started yet. The streets are being ripped up everywhere, but still no construction on the non-arena stuff. AY will change everything. I can't imagine having businesses like the vanity clothing showroom and country house diner and the huge gas station on Vanderbilt and fulton. I imagine that there will be services catering to that. We are already starting to see Vanderbilt in Prospect Heights fill up with different restaurants, which is nice.
April 18, 2012 3:32 PM - Donatella

This energy consulting/publishing company with Houston base wants to meet with me to discuss a job. I know them for a while and they were enthusiastic about my coming down to Houston to explore ideas and for me to attend client meeting. So far they are very loose about the travel arrangements, i.e. "let us know if you need help with arrangements." I don't like this. They said something vague among themselves about sending me to Houston, but this puts me in the embarrassing position of asking about the arrangements for payment. Every time I have ever had an out of town "interview", the company arranged everything. So I got quotes for airfare and hotels and sent them to them. I am hoping that they just take care of it and not make me think that they are idiots and not worth the time.
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April 18, 2012 3:33 PM - Slopefarm
Ultra hipster intellectual name for green grocer: Asparagus Syndrome

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April 18, 2012 3:34 PM - Donatella
Staffed by brilliant, spaced out people who can't make eye contact.
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April 18, 2012 3:38 PM - ilovestoops
Just finished staining most of the deck. Hope to finish tomorrow.

Dona: doesn't Green Grape Provisions have lots of fruits and veggies? I was in there once but didn't like it - way too crowded. I also think I've seen a storefront in the same block that looks like it has plenty of green stuff. Aren't those places near you?

MM: we need a traditional diner in Wallabout, as well. One which stays open very late, not closes at 3PM!
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April 18, 2012 3:39 PM - etson
M4L and I think that CGar's idea would leek money.
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April 18, 2012 3:40 PM - Deleted
Just chilled with Tom Colicchio in Blue Bottle waiting for some overpriced moonface coffee.
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April 18, 2012 3:40 PM - Slopefarm
I knew someone would turnip for a punfest.
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April 18, 2012 3:40 PM - etson
Who is Tom Colicchio?
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April 18, 2012 3:41 PM - Deleted
he's the bald judge on Top Chef, and owns a zillion restaurants in NYC
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April 18, 2012 3:41 PM - etson
I am not good at puns. You'll have to ramp it up Slopey.
April 18, 2012 3:44 PM - Slopefarm
PB, you rabe scallion, your modesty fools no one.
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April 18, 2012 3:45 PM - Slopefarm
"he's the bald judge on Top Chef, and owns a zillion restaurants in NYC"

including Craft and its progeny.

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April 18, 2012 3:46 PM - rf
Donatella, long, long ago there was a fish market and a veggie market on the blocks between Clinton and Cambridge. They were very much like businesses on Fulton St. near the Nostrand Ave. stop--the veggie place also had barrels with pig parts and there were many products I had never seen before, and they were run by immigrant Chinese. After a while (maybe 1995), they combined into one place, and then they were gone. I think the building owners' expectations of rent don't line up with what a business like that can earn. That's the only reason I can think of that there isn't something like that on Fulton St. and why Choice Greene is on Greene Ave., not Fulton St. The Choice Greene spot used to be a laundromat.

As for diners, I think the dying breed Benson is talking about are the huge ones with 30-page laminated menus and parking lots, that can produce a version of any dish in the universe. Smaller places that specialize in breakfast, lunch and dinner of the very ordinary kind have succeeded and replicated in Park Slope, like the new Dizzy's that just opened at 5th and President--just a single storefront producing "regular" food.
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April 18, 2012 3:47 PM - etson
CGar won't lettuce into Montero's because we don't like the greengrocer idea.
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April 18, 2012 3:50 PM - etson
I like Park Cafe near my place in PS. Also quite like Daisy's on 5th.
My fave diner was the Mansion Diner on the UES near where I used to live (still there and going strong last I saw).


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April 18, 2012 3:50 PM - Slopefarm
He thinks the idea is beyond the kale and wants to squash it.
April 18, 2012 3:50 PM - CGar
I attempted to start a pun fest at 1:26 with "No potato skin off my bok (choy)."

And, just for the record, I seriously dislike most of you today, especially the 2 furriners.
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April 18, 2012 3:51 PM - etson
He thinks if you build it they will kumquat.
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April 18, 2012 3:52 PM - Donatella
I sent them flight numbers and the hotel and costs and asked them if they wanted to book it. Awkward. (that's what they are doing)
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April 18, 2012 3:52 PM - Legion
Moral Preener's name for vegetables: Faceless Edible Cellulose Organics (FECOs)
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April 18, 2012 3:54 PM - Slopefarm
"And, just for the record, I seriously dislike most of you today"

WTF?
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April 18, 2012 3:54 PM - Deleted
yea slopey - my "office" is right across the street from colicchio and sons (formerly craftsteak) so i assume he was chilling over there today.
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April 18, 2012 3:54 PM - Deleted
Rf;

Perhaps we are arguing semantics, but most folks in this area associate the word "diner" with the stand-alone establishments with parking and the menus of which you speak. The type of establishment to which you are referring is a coffee shop, and I would argue that they are even more a dying breed, except for precious places like Dizzy's. For, unlike diners, coffee shops rely on local foot traffic, and most areas in Brooklyn do not generate enough foot traffic to support such a place.
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April 18, 2012 3:55 PM - Legion
...and where was Padma?
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April 18, 2012 3:56 PM - CGar
dona, I'm sorry, but that's a no brainer. There's absolutely no reason you should have to pay to go down there and meet with them, and they should not have put you in the position of having to ask (or even having to investigate flights and costs, etc.).
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April 18, 2012 3:57 PM - CGar
Not you, Slopey, so unbunch your thong.
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April 18, 2012 3:57 PM - etson
"And, just for the record, I seriously dislike most of you today"

We just don't share your passion for fruit.

April 18, 2012 3:57 PM - Legion
...as a rule of thumb,
it's not a good thing to interview with a company when you feel like you're chipping in for gas to get there.
April 18, 2012 3:57 PM - rf
Benson, I am pretty sure the open-all-night-extended-coffee-shop version of a diner is what MM was talking about for Crown Heights North. Likewise what Etson likes.
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April 18, 2012 3:58 PM - Deleted
As an example of what I am saying: for years and years, the top-rated diner in Brooklyn was King's Plaza Diner, located on Ave. U, off Flatbush. It generated a large amount of traffic and seemed to be thriving. Then, two years ago they suddenly closed up, and a CVS opened up in its place.
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April 18, 2012 3:58 PM - CGar
PB, you're dead to me.
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April 18, 2012 4:00 PM - Legion
benson,
I went to that diner a few times, it was always packed to the gills.
I can only surmise that the Greek diners of New York fell victim to the Greek Debt Crisis in some way.
Perhaps they were over leveraged in some way but it has been really noticable how many have closed down.
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April 18, 2012 4:02 PM - Slopefarm
Daisy's Diner is a diner, I would think. Yeah, classic is with a parking lot, prefab construction, enormous menu, Greek-owned, etc. But I would draw the line a little differently -- coffee shop = lots of takeout coffee/muffin traffic, greasy short-order breakfast, racks of stale doughnuts, etc. Diner a little bigger and more cleaned up, enormous 3-fold or multipage menu with at least a few Greek items on the menu, less equipped for high volume grab and go coffee.
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April 18, 2012 4:03 PM - CGar
Happy Days DINER on Montague Street is a diner. And it's open 24/7.
April 18, 2012 4:03 PM - Slopefarm
Oh, and only a coffee shop has crullers and bow ties.
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April 18, 2012 4:06 PM - bxgrl
Neptune Diner opened last year here in Crown Heights. They seem to be doing very well- classic Greek diner. And the food is very good. There are a couple of Greek type diners on Atlantic ave in downtown Bklyn, on Livingston and Jay. All seem to be doing ok.
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April 18, 2012 4:07 PM - Legion
There's a big free standing diner with parking on Emmons Avenue in Sheepshead Bay.
It's even got the big green vinyl benches if I remember correctly.
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April 18, 2012 4:08 PM - rf
Legion, the family that owned the diner probably got an offer for the land (and zoning for commercial establishment, with parking lot) that made it stupid to keep working. Plus the classic problem of immigrants with small businesses raising children who don't want to earn a living that way.
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April 18, 2012 4:08 PM - Deleted
OK, have it your way. Carry on.
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April 18, 2012 4:10 PM - Deleted
Legion;

No need to agree with me. No sir - the number of diners in Brooklyn has not declined. It's only a figment of my imagination.
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April 18, 2012 4:10 PM - Slopefarm
Perhaps the Greek debt crisis is the effect, not the cause, of all the diners closing. I remember reading how much cash a lot of these places were sitting on because so many were opening the till and raiding secret stashes of cash under the foloorboards to donate to the Dukakis campaign. If they had been sending cash to relatives back in Greece and that pipeline dried up, perhaps it ground Greek economy to a halt.
April 18, 2012 4:10 PM - Legion
That could be it also rf,
diners look like hard work 24/7 for the owners and their families.
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April 18, 2012 4:13 PM - Legion
slopefarm,
along those lines, I read somewhere that Mexican workers sending money back from the US account for a large percentage of the Mexican economy. Maybe even in the top 3.
April 18, 2012 4:15 PM - Arkady
A real diner also has to have a confectionery case - refrigerated, mirrored, revolving shelves filled w/ things laden w/ whipped cream.
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April 18, 2012 4:15 PM - Slopefarm
I was kidding, mostly, about Greece, but that would not surprise me about Mexico.
April 18, 2012 4:18 PM - Slopefarm
YEs, the revolving cakes!
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April 18, 2012 4:18 PM - Legion
...ha Arkady,
and a dish filled with those powdered mints next to the cash register.
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April 18, 2012 4:19 PM - Arkady
Right, Legion, & a toothpick dispenser too.
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April 18, 2012 4:19 PM - Deleted
Also, the cashiers at diners are usually Greek babes who could also be described as confection.
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April 18, 2012 4:20 PM - Legion
LOL benson,
this is true.
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April 18, 2012 4:21 PM - Arkady
Dick Clark died.
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April 18, 2012 4:21 PM - Deleted
Why is it that two types of establishments always have babe help that could be described as confection: Greek diner cashiers, and the girls behind the counter at Italian bakeries??
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April 18, 2012 4:25 PM - Deleted
No one wants to talk about babes?
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April 18, 2012 4:27 PM - dibs
Ryan Seacrest is the new Dick Clark, for better or for worse.
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April 18, 2012 4:29 PM - dibs
The aforementioned cashier at El Mariachi was GORGEOUS!!!!!
April 18, 2012 4:31 PM - More4Less
Benson, for old school establishment type Italian bakeries, I like to see the girls/ladies behind the counter to be chubby so that when I ask her what is good / what she recommends, I want someone who looks like she has eaten some of them baked goods hence in good position to do the recommending (vs. some hot eye candy who might be better recommending clothing store, gym, or tanning salon)
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April 18, 2012 4:33 PM - Arkady
Or fingernail salon.
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April 18, 2012 4:51 PM - More4Less
Let's Go Rangers!!
Let's Go Rangers!!
Let's Go Rangers!!

We on way to Cup!!!!!!!!!!
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April 18, 2012 4:56 PM - Slopefarm
My mother in law went to college with Dick Clark. Not sure if same year, but they overlapped.
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April 18, 2012 4:58 PM - Slopefarm
Wow, Dick Clark and Don Cornelius went within less than trhee months of each other.
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April 18, 2012 5:10 PM - Donatella
G Car I emailed them the flights I want and the hotel. They are booking it after my direct request. Very poor form but I'll go anyway.
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April 18, 2012 5:14 PM - dibs
They go in threes, Slopey. Who's next? Bob Barker's still chasing skirts isn't he???
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April 18, 2012 5:19 PM - More4Less
them little giant ladders (even for 2-3 step ones) are expensive.
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April 18, 2012 5:27 PM - Arkady
Whatg do you want the ladder for? Ikea has some ladders.
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April 18, 2012 5:34 PM - DeLepp
ryan seacrest?
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April 18, 2012 5:35 PM - Slope4Eva
El Greco diner on Emmons couldn't hold a candle to the Sheepshead Bay diner on Emmons and Coyle. However, the El Greco is still open, Sheepshead closed several years ago. Benson, every try the chocolate cheesecake at Kings Plaza diner? Delish.
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April 18, 2012 5:42 PM - Donatella
I worked behind the counter at Peggy's Bakery, an Italian bakery. I worked during highs hook on Sundays. I got to bring home whatever's wanted since they were closed on Monday. My family loved me.
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April 18, 2012 5:44 PM - Arkady
Sutter's was the best bakery ever!! And their Rego Squares were the platonic ideal of a pastry.
April 18, 2012 5:46 PM - dibs
Arkady, this morning there was a very small bird, maybe a nuthatch or something similar in the dwarf birch tree I haver and he was letting me get very close to him. I never saw that behavior in a wild songbird.
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April 18, 2012 5:48 PM - Arkady
I adore nuthatches! They usually perch upside down. Maybe a chickadee?
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April 18, 2012 5:50 PM - More4Less
Arkady, nothing complicated. just want to have a small ladder so I can use it to change light bulbs, hang stuff, etc instead of using a chair etc. was hoping they be around $50 or so but they're more like double that.
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April 18, 2012 5:51 PM - Arkady
Have you looked at Target?
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April 18, 2012 5:51 PM - bxgrl
Arkady- are raccoons in daytime unusual? MM saw one last week in the backyard, during the day. I've heard that only rabid raccoons come out in daytime?
April 18, 2012 5:53 PM - Arkady
4 foot Rubbermaid step stool from Amazon - $35.
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April 18, 2012 5:53 PM - Arkady
I've heard that too, bxgrl. I'd phone Animal Control - 311.
April 18, 2012 5:56 PM - etson
Did not know that, I saw a raccoon in PS - 8th Ave & 3rd St during the early afternoon a few months ago.
It was just rummaging through garbage, not acting crazy or how I'd imagine rabid.
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April 18, 2012 5:59 PM - Arkady
Hard to diagnose 'rabid'. Doesn't mean it's foaming at the mouth or acting strange. Daytime activity is very odd for a raccoon.
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April 18, 2012 6:00 PM - Arkady
Google says daytime activity doesn't have to mean rabies.
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April 18, 2012 6:03 PM - dibs
I've acted rabid but mostly at night.
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April 18, 2012 6:04 PM - etson
Yeah, the "Toronto Wildlife Centre" website says the same thing (Q7):
http://torontowildlifecentre.com/pages/programs/faq_raccoon.html

First FAQ on their site, however, is "I found a baby raccoon--can I care for it myself?", which suggests that the site may be frequented by people who are f***ing nuts.
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April 18, 2012 6:05 PM - dibs
It was a chickadee.
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April 18, 2012 6:05 PM - Arkady
The Cape Bird Man sounds more like a diurnal creature.
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April 18, 2012 6:06 PM - Arkady
Do you have feeders on the Cape?
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April 18, 2012 6:07 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I went to Whole Foods, I mean Whole Paycheck, I mean the theme park that masquerades as a supermarket. It was very entertaining. I spent $45 and 30 minutes in there. I bought 8 things, so I got to stand in the 10 items or less line, it did move very quickly. The cashier told me I look tired. For my $45, she should have told me I look like a movie star!! I guess you have to spend a lot more to get a positive comment. : P
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April 18, 2012 6:08 PM - Donatella
Raccoons seen during the day are sick and usually rabid. Call 311 if you see one.
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April 18, 2012 6:09 PM - dibs
Yes but they rarely get filled with food because no one is hearer, especially in the winter.

I gave a sofa away to a couple and the guy wrote a book called "Butterflies Across Cape Cod," and I went out and bought it...more of a notebook really, spirally bound but did have a lot of color pics
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April 18, 2012 6:09 PM - rf
Cobble, I am sure the cashiers at Whole Foods don't get paid well enough to shop there.
April 18, 2012 6:12 PM - dibs
Cobble, an appropriate response would have been: "Maybe I look tired now but I'll be fresh in the morning but you will still have the ugly face."
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April 18, 2012 6:13 PM - Arkady
Dona - Google it. Every entry on raccoons says that daytime activity is not a sign of rabies.
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April 18, 2012 6:13 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
No doubt, rf. But I really could have done without the passive-aggressive comment.

Per their website: "Team member benefits include health insurance, paid time off, retirement savings and our generous store discount."

http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/careers/benefits_us.php
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April 18, 2012 6:14 PM - Arkady
She probably thought she was being sympathetic - or maybe was just projecting on you what she was feeling herself.
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April 18, 2012 6:14 PM - dibs
Yes, benefits at Whole Foods are among the best out there.
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April 18, 2012 6:15 PM - dibs
Maybe Cobble did look tired!!!! I often do after a lot of wine at night and sex in the morning.
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April 18, 2012 6:16 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Years ago, I worked in a similar store, just before Whole Foods took off. We got a very nice discount on regular grocery items, a steep discount on produce, and free baked goods. I gained 20 lbs working there.
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April 18, 2012 6:16 PM - DeLepp
cobble, you should have done a "helen" and said radiation is tough.
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April 18, 2012 6:17 PM - Arkady
When I went on a diet while working at the Limelight (on 7th Av. S.), their pastry consumption went down by 60% the first week.
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April 18, 2012 6:17 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"maybe was just projecting on you what she was feeling herself."

Yes, perhaps, Arkady. Standing all day is very tiring. I did it for many years before I switched to office work.
April 18, 2012 6:18 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"you should have done a "helen" and said radiation is tough."

delepp!! I'm laughing but that is terrible!!! Can you imagine!
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April 18, 2012 6:20 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Who is "Helen"?
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April 18, 2012 6:23 PM - DeLepp
helen is my mom.
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April 18, 2012 6:26 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Was she actually getting radiation or did she just say that to b*tch slap the cashier?
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April 18, 2012 6:34 PM - Deleted
Slope4eva;

Never tried the chocolate cheesecake at the King's Plaza. I agree with you that the El Greco is "meh".

The diner I don't understand is Del Rio on Kings Highway, which is a stone's throw from where I grew up. Thirty years ago it was THE place in southern Brooklyn. Everyone went there, including the mafiosos and even on a Saturday morning at 3.00 AM, the place was packed. There was a reason for this - the food was good and cheap. The place is still popular today, but I don't understand why. They haven't put a nickel into it and it's a dump.

If you want a great coffee shop (or diner, if you prefer), go to the place on 13th Ave just off 75th St. in Dyker Heights. Excellent. Clean, friendly service and good comfort food at a reasonable price.
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April 18, 2012 6:41 PM - sixyearsandcounting
I remember the last days of the great Caraville diner on Avenue M. Sometime in the early 2000s it changed owners and the place went into decline. Then around 2006, I think, it became a glatt kosher diner, probably to better adapt to the demographics of the neighborhood.
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April 18, 2012 6:51 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I remember Caraville, but I never went.
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April 18, 2012 6:53 PM - Slope4Eva
I don't know those diners. I stayed put in Park Slope, or, did my drinking in Bay Ridge and got my greasy food there. I did used to go to a diner (maybe coffee shop?? but a real greasy spoon) somewhere in BH. I can't quite remember where it was. It was on one of the streets parallel to Adams. Best waitress ever, was an older woman named Alice.
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April 18, 2012 7:04 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Cadman Plaza Diner, Eva?
April 18, 2012 7:07 PM - Slope4Eva
DP, I really can't remember. I'm going back 30 years. But, I bet you are right. The more I say it, the more it does sound familiar. Location is right. The best burgers I've ever eaten.
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April 18, 2012 7:16 PM - Arkady
I imagine a discussion of soda fountains wouldn't go very far - most of you are too young to have experienced a really good one. Bigelow's Pharmacy on 6th Av. up from 8th St. in the Village had a decent one: excellent malts & sodas & great BLTs & grilled cheese sandwiches.
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April 18, 2012 7:19 PM - Slope4Eva
Closest I came to a soda fountain was Lewnie's, across from the 9th Street entrance to Prospect Park. I remember them filming Lords of Flatbush there.
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April 18, 2012 7:21 PM - Arkady
That was a really neat place, S4E.
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April 18, 2012 7:23 PM - Arkady
One super thing about Bigelow's was it catered to people's tastes: had both Coke & Pepsi, Hellmann's & Miracle Whip, etc.
April 18, 2012 7:25 PM - Slope4Eva
Hurray, I'm in the category of "old enough to remember".
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April 18, 2012 7:27 PM - Arkady
Whatever rings your chime, S4E. I reckon most would prefer to be in the younger group!
April 18, 2012 7:31 PM - Slope4Eva
I'm kinda on the fence age-wise.
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April 18, 2012 7:31 PM - Deleted
Speaking about diners and coffee shops, does anyone remember another variation - the luncheonette? Those places used to be ubiquitous. Combination coffee shop, candy store, soda fountain, toy store and neighborhood hangout. As I remember them, they were always called by the owner's first name. "Teddy's" and "Lenny's" were the mainstays when I was a kid.
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April 18, 2012 7:32 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Hi!

Just read thru OT.

I've been throwing myself into work lately and going to sleep at a normal time and being a good boy.

Cobble: I saw that exact bug you posted, TODAY, a dead one, on a light table at work. It will most likely be there tomorrow so i'll take a picture. I was going to look at it with an ocular piece but I got distracted, it's been extremely busy at work (which is a good thing). So those bugs you are seeing in your house are apparently in the city as well! Weird coincidence I've never seen one of those before until today. I hope i didn't catch them from you and brought them to manhattan! If it IS a beagle, which I think it is (even thought it was when i had my naked eye right up to it) because there have been numerous new beatles introduced to the US in the last few years.

Re: Diners. Old greek diners were always fun to go to very late at night. I worked in one in Jersey for one night. A woman tried to set me up with her daughter! Her daughter was in college and I was 16 at the time. Very akward since I was gay. She showed me a picture of her and I didnt know what to say when she asked me what if I thought she was pretty. She said she'd bring her to work the next day I was working. I never went back to work there, but did get an office job and dog walking the next month in the same building adjacent to the diner that I had for two years before college. The food services industry is totally not for me. (I worked in a waffle place in the east village when I first moved to NYC for extra money but only lasted an hour there too.) I did work in the dining hall in college for many semesters and oddly really enjoyed it, but I think it's cuz I really enjoyed my coworkers cuz it was known around campus that only the freaks work at the dining halls. Plus it was good money for the time and so easy to pick up other lazy asses shifts. Oh yeah and free food if you worked there and didn't have a meal plan. (tho they tried to stop the free food for student workers one year and there was a near riot). I was excited about that diner Dizzy's opening up on 5th avenue near me and passed the other day and it was packed as hell, but I wasn't a big fan of the prices. They were THAT outrageous I guess, but I was still turned off... But im sure less expensive than other places so I might give that place a try.

Snappy & Arkady, thanks again. Snappy i'll text you this weekend. Cobble too. Cgar, forwarded me your email. thanks.


OH!!!! got my 401k quarterly in the mail today. I think it was not bad at all!!! Big improvement over the last one, tho maybe I am not reading it right. I just look at the "youre worth this amount" box. These last four months seemed to have netted me more than the previous three and I havent changed what I am invested in. I want to increase my contribution to it at work from 1% to 2% (i KNOW that's not a big increase... but rent increase is gonna be BIG), but im refusing to dwell on the rent increase right now. The one thing i've always been able to manage in my life to pay is the rent. If that's the new rent, then it's the new rent. Adjustments in lifestyle will need to be made. (GOOD adjustments... i dont mean eating eating cat food or anything like that...)






*rob*



*rob*




April 18, 2012 7:34 PM - rf
I have family members (mostly deceased now) on my dad's side who made book and did a little loansharking out of luncheonettes. When I lived in Dyker Heights in the late 70s, we had one downstairs and I am sure the proprietor (named Sal) had a related business.
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April 18, 2012 7:34 PM - Slope4Eva
Haha, yep, Frank's on 12th Street/4th Ave. Only place open on a Sunday, for just a little while. Best egg creams. Arkady, I actually would not want to have missed some of the things I grew up with. I'd hate to be a youngin these days.
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April 18, 2012 7:35 PM - Slope4Eva
RF, so did I. Not sure where Grandpa's "office" was.
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April 18, 2012 7:41 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
The Peter Pank (yes that was the name. i never knew what "Pank" meant) in Jersey I remember as liking. Not for the food, but for the atmosphere and the urinal cakes in the bathrooms (don't ask! okay, ill answer before anyone thinks it was anything seedy or gross.. i stole a bunch for one of my art classes for a project me and a fellow student were working on. they were not your regular urinal cakes). that sounds really moonfacey to me right now.

*rob*





*rob*

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April 18, 2012 7:43 PM - Deleted
*Rob*

Good to see you back. Gotta run.
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April 18, 2012 7:48 PM - rf
slope4eva, apparently when my paternal grandparents married, it was the unification of two Jewish crime families. My dad remembers spending a couple of years with the family of his aunt and uncle when my grandpa was "upstate." But that was before I was born.

My dad's cousins and uncles were, shall we say, very interesting. My dad was never tempted though. Mostly (at least from what I hear), the current generations are on the straight and narrow.
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April 18, 2012 7:49 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Oh, ONE last thing, because I don't want to plather on all night. Im reading this great book called American Apertheid and i'm trying to get into night reading versus night posting.. There's a bird (it just stopped) it sometimes chirps at this hour... but in the mornings starting from about 5 or 6 am, it's non stop, three chirps every two seconds cheep-cheep-CHEEP, over and over and over for at least 2 hours. Are these birds normal for this area? Maybe I am only hearing this bird the last few weeks because it's been so nice out I dont have the AC on and in the windows have been open, I feel like in years past maybe it was so hot by the time of year I had the AC on at night and the windows closed when I wake up in the morning? anyway, i kinda wanna strangle the damn thing. It's definitely just ONE bird too.. Any idea what kind of bird it is? I'm not a bird hater, i adore pigeons (they crack me up), seagulls, buzzards, and sparrows, but this one is really annoying me with it's chirps EVERY morning.

*rob*

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April 18, 2012 8:02 PM - Partridge
"Any idea what kind of bird it is?"

Sounds like a robin. They are surprisingly loud. I've got one talking to me in the morning too. I rather like it though.
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April 18, 2012 8:36 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
You're welcome, rob.
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April 18, 2012 8:37 PM - Partridge
I'm obviously a thread killer. I'll go away now so you can all have fun again. Sorry you all seem so nice, I guess you don't love it when a stranger tries to crash the party.
Edited at April 18, 2012 8:37 PM
April 18, 2012 8:39 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Partridge, we just don't know you, we're just chary of new people. We've all known each other for a long time, which is likely apparent.

Tell us about yourself...Who are you? How did you find us?
Edited at April 18, 2012 8:40 PM
April 18, 2012 8:40 PM - sixyearsandcounting
No worries, Partridge - it can get slow after work hours. Besides, some of us have been known to kill threads even in the middle of the day...I won't mention any names but she lives in my 'hood!
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April 18, 2012 8:43 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I heard that, Six!
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April 18, 2012 8:43 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"we're just chary of new people."

We shouldn't be though...if we scare off the new folks, we'll eventually dwindle into nothingness...presumably if a new person stays around we'll get to know their thoughts on politics, sex, bodily functions, peacocks, travel habits, vacations, gentrification, granite countertops, basketball, puns, and other related material quite rapidly.
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April 18, 2012 8:43 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Good ears, Cobble! Now back to this paper writing...ugh.
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April 18, 2012 8:44 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
(Note to self: Track Six down at his favorite local and spike his drink with something icky.)
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April 18, 2012 8:45 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Hey now, I was polite! I asked Partridge to tell us about his/her self!
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April 18, 2012 8:47 PM - Donatella
Hi *rob*.

I learned something today. I guess that there was an outbreak of rabies among NYC racoons and we were being warned about racoons displaying abnormal behavior. Since they are nocturnal animals, I guess that seeing them hanging out during the day was one indicator something was wrong. But Arkady is right. It is not necessarily true that a racoon seen in the daytime is rabid; I read that young ones could be working overtime to get food or that there isn't much food around and they are traveling to find some. The signs of rapidity are things like very placid or aggressive behavior, approaching humans, paralyzed hind legs and the such. I was paranoid when I was staying in Staten Island because there were many rapid ones there and the rule of thumb was if you saw them in the day, there was something wrong with them. I definitely saw a rabid one once, just strolling around a gutter.

Yesterday I was engaging in moral preening and today, spreading misinformation. Jeez, not good.
Edited at April 18, 2012 8:47 PM
April 18, 2012 8:48 PM - Partridge
Thanks Cobble. You are a peach! Just been reading for years on and off. Hate that you got booted from over there -----
Think the other site has lost its spirit so I check in with you guys to see what's up in Brooklyn. As a group you all have a lot to offer about the neighborhoods.

Remembering candy stores and luncheonettes is oddly fun for some reason.

I'm from Dyker, now in Columbia waterfront blah blah. About the same age as many of you and I'm not crazy and therefore nothing to be chary about. I swear.
Edited at April 18, 2012 8:48 PM
April 18, 2012 8:50 PM - Donatella

Yeah, Partridge, the dead zones happen mysteriously. Sometimes people are just eating dinner or watching TV or doing something more interesting. SO...... how DO you know us? Tell us a little something about yourself...... if you want.
Edited at April 18, 2012 8:50 PM
April 18, 2012 8:58 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I am rather peachy, thank you! But could you be just a tad more vague? C'mon, spit it out, we want details--Sexual preference, political leanings, actual age, relationship status, employment status, education, social security number, bank balance.... ; )
Edited at April 18, 2012 8:58 PM
April 18, 2012 8:59 PM - Legion
"Yeah, Partridge, the dead zones happen mysteriously. "

...it's not so mysterious donatella,
the dead zones happen because some of our regular crowd like to be passive aggressive.
...and you know who you are.
Edited at April 18, 2012 8:59 PM
April 18, 2012 9:01 PM - Legion
What's up partridge,
I used to watch the Partridge family growing up.
Danny Bonaducci is a real nut now.

Are you a male Partridge or a female Partridge?
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:01 PM
April 18, 2012 9:03 PM - ilovestoops
Arkady: worked at Limelight? in the 80's? More detail please!

Partridge: welcome. Many posts are ignored. Just stick with it!
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April 18, 2012 9:03 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Well, some dead zones happen for that reason, it's true, legion. Or because people don't know how to respond to something.
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April 18, 2012 9:05 PM - Deleted
Patridge;

What's your position about cruises?
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:05 PM
April 18, 2012 9:06 PM - Partridge
There, that's better. The get happy thingy was too stupid. I like being Laurie Partridge better. Yes, I'm a straight female. Can't get into sports talks, sorry. Can talk condos and renos though. Soapstone -- not granite, Six.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:06 PM
April 18, 2012 9:07 PM - Deleted
Patridge;

Where do you draw the line between diners and coffee shops?
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:07 PM
April 18, 2012 9:08 PM - Deleted
Patridge;

Do you wish to visit Cuba?
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:08 PM
April 18, 2012 9:08 PM - CGar
cobble, would it kill you to earn your PLUSA paycheck and give partridge a welcome kit? You also owe one to Gazoo.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:08 PM
April 18, 2012 9:09 PM - CGar
Legion, STFU.
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April 18, 2012 9:11 PM - Arkady
I worked at the Limelight at 91 7th Av. S. in the early 60s, not the more notorious later one. Mine was a bar/restaurant - folk singer hangout.
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April 18, 2012 9:11 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Sorry, CGar, it's on my other computer and that would require that I get up off my ass and walk all the way into the other room. I can't be asked. : P

(Perhaps tomorrow Gazoo and Partridge will get their Official PLUSA Welcome Letter.)
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April 18, 2012 9:11 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Cobble, you won't find me there for awhile because of this @Q#$@(#* paper.

(Partridge, in case you didn't know, I'm in grad school)
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:11 PM
April 18, 2012 9:11 PM - Partridge
OK, Benson are you flirting with me 'cause I'm from Dyker? Vegas is a diner, Hinche's is a coffee shop. Simple! Cruises suck.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:11 PM
April 18, 2012 9:12 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
(It would also help, CGar, if my paychecks didn't bounce!)
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:12 PM
April 18, 2012 9:15 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"Cruises suck."

Now we're getting somewhere!
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April 18, 2012 9:16 PM - Deleted
"Vegas is a diner"

Correct.

" Hinche's is a coffee shop. "

Correct.

" Cruises suck"

Any other problems?
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April 18, 2012 9:17 PM - dibs
I met Danny Bonaducci's mother.
April 18, 2012 9:18 PM - dibs
Small world story...Just ate at PB Boulangerie in Welfleet...incredible. Our waitress was the daughter of the woman whom we gave the sofa and carpet to this morning. She drove her mother to see it yesterday!!!!!
April 18, 2012 9:21 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
How did you figure it out, DIBS?
April 18, 2012 9:21 PM - Arkady
The mind boggles - how did the topic arise during dinner?
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April 18, 2012 9:21 PM - dibs
She recognized us.
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April 18, 2012 9:21 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
I don't know if Gazoo is interested in the welcome kit, I think some of you scared her off, or turned her off. perhaps not meaning to really or she mis judged some of you accusing her of mommying me, etc. what does "mommying" someone even mean?! Wait, it wasn't the mommying thing that cuz's pretty prevalent around here, i think it was the whole cult member of rob thing... which is absurd. She's an internet friend and when she came here I was the only person she knew since she didnt really post. I really have to work on not giving off vibes that I want to be mommied (which i don't particularly think is the case either, I think perhaps some people can just get a bit concerned and maybe I play off my idiot aspects of my personality rather than the intelligent aspects of it, for better of for worse..). It's no secret that my posts at night have been seriously bonkers and my posts in the mornings have been seriously cranky and irritable for a while now. I hope that me not having those kinds of mood swings and extreme posts doesn't make me a boring person.. (tho, that's the last thing im worried about these days..). gonna go watch survivor now and hit the sack early again. I don't even have to set my alarm these days with that stupid bird out my window! g'nite.




*rob*

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April 18, 2012 9:22 PM - dibs
She drove her mother to look at it
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April 18, 2012 9:28 PM - petebklyn
same age as many of us? there are the thirty-somethings like rob, etc and then there are people like dibs. Then there are the ageless like myself.
dona, I have the canna tubers still. later. time for dinner.
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April 18, 2012 9:33 PM - lechacal
Cruises do suck. They are mostly dead people with bodies that still kind of work.
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April 18, 2012 9:34 PM - lechacal
Partridge, who is your avatar? She looks high maintenance.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:34 PM
April 18, 2012 9:36 PM - lechacal
" I think some of you scared her off, or turned her off. perhaps not meaning to really or she mis judged some of you accusing her of mommying me, etc. what does "mommying" someone even mean?! "

Uh, by some of you do you mean me? Lots of people here mommy you rob. Gazoo included. Not sure if she does it any more than mm and cobble and Dona etc. I think mm is your strict mommy and cobble is your mean mommy and Dona is your fair mommy and gazoo is your permissive mommy.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:36 PM
April 18, 2012 9:36 PM - Legion
"Legion, STFU."

What?!
You talkin' to me?
...well I don't see anyone else here.

...You talkin' to me!
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:36 PM
April 18, 2012 9:38 PM - Legion
That's Lori Partridge Lech,
...the dream date of many a 70's kid.
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April 18, 2012 9:38 PM - lechacal
I am listening to "push it" by salt n peppa.
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April 18, 2012 9:38 PM - Donatella

Very cool, Pete!!!


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April 18, 2012 9:38 PM - Legion
...she was on LA Law for a while.
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April 18, 2012 9:39 PM - lechacal
Oh you mean from the tv show called partridge family? Never saw it.
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April 18, 2012 9:41 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I prefer 'Non-permissive' Mommy vs. 'Mean', lech.
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April 18, 2012 9:42 PM - Deleted
"Cruises do suck. They are mostly dead people with bodies that still kind of work."

zzzzzzzzzz
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April 18, 2012 9:42 PM - lechacal
Ever feel like you're doing a spectacular job living some other guy's life? I'm a logger, not a lawyer. Curses.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:42 PM
April 18, 2012 9:43 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
It's Laurie not Lori, legion.
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April 18, 2012 9:44 PM - lechacal
Yeah keep sleeping in the lounge chair benson, shuffleboard at 5 and then buffet and then a lounge singer. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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April 18, 2012 9:46 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm a successful creative type, not a semi-unemployed housewife, if it's any consolation, lech. : P
April 18, 2012 9:46 PM - Legion
Gazoo,
If you're still out there lurking,
don't mind the "in your face" attitude in here,
it's just the Brooklyn air that makes us all sound a bit cranky
and snarky.
April 18, 2012 9:47 PM - Deleted
Lech;

Sorry I'm missing the life of excitement in suburbia, guy.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:47 PM
April 18, 2012 9:48 PM - Donatella

I was in love with (ok had a teenage style crush on) Robert DeNiro for a long time. I was embarrassed by it; like, how can a middle-aged woman be infactuated with an actor? But I thought he was the hippest, most interesting and studly guy ever. Now, hmmm....he hasn't aged well, I grew up (a little) and he really only likes black women. But I watched him in everything. I LOVED mean streets. everything he has done, actually. He and Scorcese have been a really tight knit pair; they were really a natural team.
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April 18, 2012 9:48 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I think mm is your strict mommy and cobble is your mean mommy and Dona is your fair mommy and gazoo is your permissive mommy.

LOL. well at least now i have *something* to bring up in therapy! Thanks for the insight! You should become a recruiter for therapists. (kind of like a head hunter for shrinks..) And no offense, but guh-ROSS if it turns out I have mommy issues.. :-/ is this why i irrationally choose to live in park slope!?


*rob*

April 18, 2012 9:49 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
reaaaaaaaaaaaally stepping away from the keyboard right now. 10pm is my new bedtime.

*rob*

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April 18, 2012 9:51 PM - lechacal
My wife wants to go on a cruise benson. Want to take her? I'll pay her fare. While you're on the cruise I'll go to sub saharan Africa and do stuff that people's parents warned them about.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:51 PM
April 18, 2012 9:52 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Nite, rob.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:52 PM
April 18, 2012 9:52 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Which one of my mommies is going to tuck me in!? I hope it's not cobble and her bugs :-p

*rob*

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April 18, 2012 9:52 PM - Legion
For Donatella,

Robert DeNiro's Waiting
by Bananarama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDXtM8XaSKw
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:52 PM
April 18, 2012 9:53 PM - lechacal
Therapy isn't real rob. Only white people with pointless liberal arts degrees believe in therapy. Sort of like how they believe planting a tree makes a difference.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:53 PM
April 18, 2012 9:54 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
rob, The bugs are already in your bed!

(Mwah ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!)
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:54 PM
April 18, 2012 9:54 PM - lechacal
Heather has two mommies.

Rob has like ten.

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April 18, 2012 9:54 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Reality is a pretty effective therapy.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:54 PM
April 18, 2012 9:57 PM - lechacal
I have a meeting tomorrow at the offices of my former law firm and it would be socially inappropriate to piss in their potted plants, which is too bad cause that's all I can think of doing.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:57 PM
April 18, 2012 9:59 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Your mere presence will be insult enough to them, lech.
Edited at April 18, 2012 9:58 PM
April 18, 2012 10:03 PM - lechacal
You know what's effective therapy? Being poor and doing physical labor. Shutting the fuck up and grabbing a shovel kind of makes you stop whining like a weak-kneed new yorker with a kick dog,
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April 18, 2012 10:05 PM - rf
How much do you know about being poor?
Edited at April 18, 2012 10:05 PM
April 18, 2012 10:05 PM - Legion
This one is for lechacal based on the genre and date of salt n pepa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkp7a1LNiv8&feature=related
April 18, 2012 10:07 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
How much does he know about being poor. Or therapy. Or anything that he pontificates on? Zip.
Edited at April 18, 2012 10:07 PM
April 18, 2012 10:08 PM - Donatella

*******WHERE IS GAZOO************

I apologize! Come back. Your open affection for Smurf boy coincided with my pique with him for a bit; you sort of came on to the scene in the midst of a series of events you knew nothing about.

And *rob* I sense that you are going to go for it now, really dedicate yourself to your own happiness. You deserve it; you are a good person.
Edited at April 18, 2012 10:08 PM
April 18, 2012 10:09 PM - Deleted
Most social groups have what is called "Miller Time". As the old song goes: "When it's time to relax..."

Here on the OT we kick back with moral preening.
Edited at April 18, 2012 10:09 PM
April 18, 2012 10:11 PM - Partridge
Thanks Stoops for the advice and you all for letting me dabble in the OT.

Welcome kit would be appreciated. Is the Plusa Dictionary available yet? I could use one. Shouldn't there be a probationary period before you hand out such valuable documents?

Lech - Laurie was just a girl in her family's band. She wasn't so special. Pretty bland and light on talent. It was her brother who had all the good looks and charm. It was always all about Keith.
Edited at April 18, 2012 10:11 PM
April 18, 2012 10:13 PM - bxgrl
Or intimidate the crap out of them, Lech.
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April 18, 2012 10:14 PM - lechacal
Actually cobble I went to lots of court-ordered therapy as a kid when my parents were divorcing and can conclusively say that therapy is totally gay.
Edited at April 18, 2012 10:14 PM
April 18, 2012 10:15 PM - bxgrl
Partridge- one other thing. It's a point of honor to kill a thread. You aren't really part of the OT until you've done it at least once. Welcome aboard!
Edited at April 18, 2012 10:15 PM
April 18, 2012 10:16 PM - lechacal
Hey bxgrl, good to see you (virtually).
Edited at April 18, 2012 10:16 PM
April 18, 2012 10:17 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Whatever, lech. It's useful for some people and I just get sick of your pontificating BS.
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April 18, 2012 10:20 PM - Deleted
"I just get sick of your pontificating BS."

Would you like Lech to hand the baton to me, for a change of pace?
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April 18, 2012 10:25 PM - Partridge
"It's a point of honor to kill a thread."

Thanks bxgrl. That makes me feel better.

Gazoo!! Come PLUSA with me. You just need a thick skin with this NY crowd.
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April 18, 2012 10:31 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Partridge, did you grow up in Dyker or are you a more recent immigrant to this borough?
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April 18, 2012 10:33 PM - lechacal
I'm actually kind of grumpy tonight.
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April 18, 2012 10:35 PM - kazootite
"Therapy isn't real rob. Only white people with pointless liberal arts degrees believe in therapy. Sort of like how they believe planting a tree makes a difference."

Or people from Calif, lechacal :-). I once helped someone plant trees on a mountain hillside. It was horribly boring (to me), but there had been a fire on his property and he wanted to replant the hillside with redwood and sitka spruce. It was rather interesting to buy the many boxes of dozens of little trees at a time and see how this is done.

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April 18, 2012 10:37 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
lech owns a small forest in MA that he wants to cut down, I mean manage.
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April 18, 2012 10:40 PM - Donatella
I bought a bundle of curly willow branches at Christmas three years ago. A lot of it. Too much of it. So I threw the excess branches in the backyard. I stuck one of the sticks into the ground and did nothing. For three years. Now it is a little tree.


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April 18, 2012 10:44 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
My dad and I planted a tree in our backyard 40+ years ago. It's taller than the house now.
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April 18, 2012 10:47 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ok, losers, newbies, and lurkers, I'm signing off. Nite all.
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April 18, 2012 10:48 PM - ilovestoops
Arkady - thanks for the info - that explains the reference to pastries, which I had never heard of at the infamous Limelight! I moved here in Jan 1980 so missed the 70's. Never went to 80's Limelight either, just know the rep. I think it's a market now.

Someone said that cruises are like being in prison, with the chance of drowning. That's what they sound like to me, too.
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April 18, 2012 10:50 PM - ilovestoops
We got one of those free trees on Saturday and the handyman helped plant it. I love looking at them but HATE gardening. Fortunately, many of the plants I bought when I moved here and had a deck, have died, so my gardening chores are much reduced.
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April 18, 2012 10:52 PM - Partridge
Yes Six.

Born at Methodist Hospital. Raised in Dyker Heights. Lived on Shore Road, Bay Ridge as an adult. Now Columbia Waterfront District or Red Hook or Carroll Gardens West or whatever we are calling it this week. Ha! It was all just called Downtown years ago.
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April 18, 2012 10:57 PM - kazootite
Interesting about the back yard trees ^^^
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April 18, 2012 10:59 PM - kazootite
Wendy! I hope you are feeling better and are soon completely well.
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April 18, 2012 10:59 PM - sixyearsandcounting
A trajectory not unlike that of another PLUSA...
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April 18, 2012 11:00 PM - Deleted
Partridge;

Folks used to call that area "South Brooklyn". Basically, anything south of Atlantic Ave. was called that.

My first apartment after I got married was in Dyker Heights. The big house across the street from the Post Office on 13th Ave. An attic apartment on the top floor.
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April 18, 2012 11:02 PM - Deleted
I think it's cool some hue mons still have that primal urge to grow stuff.
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April 18, 2012 11:05 PM - Partridge
Contrary to popular belief, some escape the the southern side of BK without NRA memberships and posters of Ronald Regean on their walls.
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April 18, 2012 11:08 PM - Legion
I believe it was Tolstoy who said:
"...in his lifetime, every man should plant a tree, father a child and write a book."
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April 18, 2012 11:08 PM - Deleted
Legion;

Scratch Partridge off the list of people we're inviting to our party. She just dissed Ronald Reagan.
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April 18, 2012 11:09 PM - Partridge
Benson -- that was some house! Long gone and now a pile of yellow bricks with carports.
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April 18, 2012 11:11 PM - Deleted
Partridge;

You're thinking of the house next to the one in which I lived(which is still there). I lived in the big old house on the corner of 13th and 84th.
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April 18, 2012 11:15 PM - Legion
"Scratch Partridge off the list of people we're inviting to our party. She just dissed Ronald Reagan."


hummm,
this is troubling,
dibs, etson, delepp and the rest of the RMLC contingent will not be happy.
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April 18, 2012 11:15 PM - Arkady
"this is troubling,"
No it isn't, it's bona fides for her sanity.

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April 18, 2012 11:16 PM - Partridge
Already making enemies. Shit! I was telling myself to be on my best behavior.
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April 18, 2012 11:18 PM - Deleted
Too late Partridge. You've made your choice. If you don't already own a cat, I suggest that you get one soon. You'll need one for the crowd you're going to hang with here.
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April 18, 2012 11:19 PM - bxgrl
Nice to virtually see you're still the same, grumpy but beloved Lech, Lech :)

I see we have to add Partidge to the DCCL club- oh yay! A new member! Partridge, dare I ask if you like cats?
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April 18, 2012 11:19 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"Already making enemies."

You also made friends!
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April 18, 2012 11:22 PM - Partridge
No cat. I'm a dog person and this thread need more dog pix. But I will admit to loling every time I see "You think this is a mf'ing game? The big eyes, the red knit sweater -- gets me every time.
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April 18, 2012 11:24 PM - Legion
Curses!
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April 18, 2012 11:28 PM - Partridge
Legion's so multifaceted. One breath, quoting Tolstoy, next posting pooch. A lovely pooch too.
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April 18, 2012 11:31 PM - ilovestoops
kazoo-tite: For the past few years Mayor Bloomberg has pushed planting lots of trees. There have been several different programs helping people get free or discounted trees. http://www.nyrp.org/Greening_Sustainability/MillionTreesNYC
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April 18, 2012 11:33 PM - MontroseMorris
Ever notice that there are NO men in the OT Republican Club?

Another sign of female superior intelligence.
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April 18, 2012 11:35 PM - Legion
"Ever notice that there are NO men in the OT Republican Club?"

errrr,
unless the C in RMLC stands for Castrati,
I believe we're all men Montrose!
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April 18, 2012 11:38 PM - Arkady
Misuse of edit function?
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April 18, 2012 11:39 PM - Legion
"A lovely pooch too"

Thanks partridge,
that's legiondog, archnemesis of wiley OT Cats.
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April 18, 2012 11:41 PM - ilovestoops
Cat face party
http://www.publicassemblynyc.com/?wtpage=event&id=3059

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April 18, 2012 11:46 PM - Partridge
We knew what you meant MM. Must say I admire your work on 'Stoner. Keep it coming! Gives the site a sense of authenticity. Your knowledge is outstanding.

Hello Arkady. Pleased to meet you!

Good Legiondog, good dog.
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April 18, 2012 11:50 PM - Arkady
Hey, Partridge!
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April 18, 2012 11:52 PM - sixyearsandcounting
ATTENTION! The earliest cat lady was a dude:
http://io9.com/5900334/even-in-the-1870s-humans-were-obsessed-with-ridiculous-photos-of-cats
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April 18, 2012 11:56 PM - Arkady
A friend of mine has a collection of Potter photography - he was potty!
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April 19, 2012 8:41 AM - sixyearsandcounting
What is this? First two OTs and now none? Can't we compromise and have one, instead of two or zero?
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April 19, 2012 8:46 AM - BoerumHillScott
I blame gridlock in Washington and the breakdown of our political system.
That and too many cat pictures.
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April 19, 2012 8:59 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Scott, it's all Bush's fault anyway.
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April 19, 2012 9:02 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
OK, I'll post one now.
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