Thursday Open Thread
February 23, 2012 7:28 AM - dibs
GM

338 comments
February 23, 2012 7:32 AM - Donatella
Good Morning.
Edited at February 23, 2012 7:32 AM
#1
February 23, 2012 7:42 AM - Deleted
Now those are some sweet houses. Love the ones with those L shaped stoops.

Would that be queen anne style? I read my montrose walkabouts and hotds.
Edited at February 23, 2012 7:42 AM
#2
February 23, 2012 7:42 AM - Deleted
Morning dona
Edited at February 23, 2012 7:42 AM
#3
February 23, 2012 7:47 AM - dibs
Not sure what they are called. I think though, that they are on Stuyvesant Ave just a block or two north of me. I only visited them on the internet to take the pic though
Edited at February 23, 2012 7:47 AM
#4
February 23, 2012 7:48 AM - dibs
Speaking of pics and visiting on the internet, does rob cave a camera on his phone???? We want proof he's really going on this trip and not just on the internet
Edited at February 23, 2012 7:47 AM
#5
February 23, 2012 7:51 AM - dibs
Just finished my exercises and breakfast. I'm sitting here in my underwear taking it easy. Maybe I'll pop in to my "family office" around 9:00.

A Family Office is what the retired 1% sets up so they can go into an office and get away from the wife/husband/partner/prostitute/hustler (or all 5) for the day in a somewhat legitimate matter...have lunch with other like-minded 1%ers and play on the internet.
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#6
February 23, 2012 7:52 AM - dibs
But sitting here in my underwear isn't very 1%, I know.
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#7
February 23, 2012 8:03 AM - dibs
LOL...on CNBC, Stephen Roach joking with Joe Kernan that he needs to come up to Yale for a refresher math course and Joe says "Yeah, and I'll come back a socialist."
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:03 AM
#8
February 23, 2012 8:10 AM - Arkady
I think underwear is o.k. so long as you're not in a singlet or wife-beater.
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:10 AM
#9
February 23, 2012 8:12 AM - dibs
Joe Boxer boxer-briefs, if you must know, Arkady.
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#10
February 23, 2012 8:17 AM - Deleted
Joe boxer? Are u in middle school?
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:17 AM
#11
February 23, 2012 8:18 AM - dibs
Well what exactly do you wear, dh???

And why does the brand matter???? I find that these last the longest. And i always get dark colored ones because with white, the skid marks never really wash out.
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:18 AM
#12
February 23, 2012 8:18 AM - More4Less
GM peeps.

is exposed wiring for ceiling light a big no no?? wife shot it down for doing that in the living room but I'm wondering if it's OK in the bedroom - particular from standpoint of paying for that vs similar amount putting lighting inside the nearby closets. I know I know, 1% approach would be to sheetrock the ceiling so the wiring can be hidden for a clean look but nope, can't fund that via my 99% budget
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:18 AM
#13
February 23, 2012 8:19 AM - dibs
And we can go into why I wear a brief style instead of boxers but I don't think that's a good idea this early on the OT, the skidmark comment notwithstanding
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:19 AM
#14
February 23, 2012 8:21 AM - dibs
What do you mean by exposed wiring???? A swag light??? (Not 1% at all) Or the Wire Bond channels???

My idea of exposed wiring is what I see in down market go go bars in Thailand!!!!!
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:21 AM
#15
February 23, 2012 8:22 AM - Deleted
Hahaha.
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:22 AM
#16
February 23, 2012 8:23 AM - More4Less
I wear calvin Klein briefs - that's cause I see them at marshalls, TJ maxx and these other discount stores. If reg price, I ain't spending extra bucks for the brand - ie hanes and the fruits are good & soft enough for me.
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:23 AM
#17
February 23, 2012 8:23 AM - Deleted
Sounds like m4l wants Brooklyn speakeasy lightbulbs hanging from the ceiling by a wire. Swanky dude.
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:23 AM
#18
February 23, 2012 8:24 AM - dibs
Yeah, I'm not sure what he means by "exposed wiring." Scary.

You can take the boy out of Asia but you can't take Asia out of the boy
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#19
February 23, 2012 8:26 AM - sixyearsandcounting
GM. This is just the sort of breakfast conversation I like. Peace, love, and STFU.
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:26 AM
#20
February 23, 2012 8:26 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM

I suspected you were a 'boxers' kind of guy, DIBS. What? No monogram? : P
#21
February 23, 2012 8:27 AM - More4Less
DIBS, exposed wiring mean the wires are enclosed in some plastic rectangular casing and the casing is what is surface mounted onto the ceiling. Coop doesn't allow me to channel into the ceiling to bury the wires when putting up a ceiling light. so choice is this exposed wiring or the 1% approach of sheetrock the ceiling. For me, it's exposed wiring or floor lamps. Just thought if exposed wiring aint too taboo, I can go with ceiling light then I don't have to pay for light inside closet, skip the flr lamp, and possible skip the table lamp too
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:27 AM
#22
February 23, 2012 8:28 AM - dibs
Cobble, you moron, don't you read???? They are boxer briefs which are more briefs than boxers. I can't wear boxers.
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:28 AM
#23
February 23, 2012 8:28 AM - Deleted
Good morning. Going down to Jersey today to visit my old colleagues at Bell Labs (my division is now part of Tyco). I'm sort of making a "farewell" tour. I can't wait to find out what my severance is tomorrow, as it is hard to plan right now.

M4L: I'm not sure what you mean by "exposed wiring", but in general the NYC building code requires wiring behind the sheetrock.
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#24
February 23, 2012 8:30 AM - Deleted
The large amount of overhead wiring in Japan makes even the nicest area ugly. The fact that the wiring poles are mainly steel further uglifies the scene.
#25
February 23, 2012 8:30 AM - dibs
m4l, you can always find a "casing" or trim piece that will cover any type of junction box that would be exposed. i understand that they won't allow you to channel into the ceiling so will the wires be on top of the ceiling in one of those metal channels??? I did that with track lighting in my manhattan condo. A metal track up the wall from the switch to the track. But it looks OK with track lighting
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#26
February 23, 2012 8:32 AM - dibs
I'm talking about this stuff...

it's called Wiremold
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:33 AM
#27
February 23, 2012 8:32 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I like lamp light better than ceiling lights. Much kinder, softer, gentler. But the evil ceiling lights are needed from time to time.
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#28
February 23, 2012 8:33 AM - More4Less
Benson, so the office closing has been announced?
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#29
February 23, 2012 8:34 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Cobble, you moron, don't you read???? They are boxer briefs which are more briefs than boxers. I can't wear boxers."

Reading comprehension low, still on 1st cup of coffee, jackass. Will strive to improve as day goes on. : P

Boxer briefs even better!
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:34 AM
#30
February 23, 2012 8:36 AM - dibs
"Will strive to improve as day goes on."

That would be the first step in becoming a Republican.
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#31
February 23, 2012 8:38 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"That would be the first step in becoming a Republican."

Please, DIBS, don't start with such horrors so early in the morning!

MoBH arrives this evening at approx. 5 or 5:30.
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:38 AM
#32
February 23, 2012 8:38 AM - More4Less
DIBS, yep, that's the casing or track the wires will be housed in. The beauty is the run up the wall will be inside the closet so just the portion at the ceiling (~4'-5') as it comes out from the closet to the target area for the ceiling light will be exposed. there are nicer casing options than that or were you talking about using some moulding of sorts to cover it?
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:38 AM
#33
February 23, 2012 8:39 AM - dibs
"MoBH arrives this evening at approx. 5 or 5:30."

Scott, can you install a countdown clock???? We can collectively watch Cobble become more frazzled as the time approaches!!!!
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#34
February 23, 2012 8:41 AM - dibs
No, just that. I don't think there's any issue using it in a bedroom but, depending upon your decor, not so much in the LR, UNLESS you are really going for a modern look. Like I said, it goes will almost seamlessly with track lighting. Plus, you paint it the same color as the ceiling.
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:41 AM
#35
February 23, 2012 8:43 AM - More4Less
DH, is the bushwick area near the Gates Ave (J,Z) subway station on Broadway a viable rental location for hipsters etc? A buddy of mine is thinking of checking out some ppties (1%er looking at houses for rental income) in that area and wanted to ask me how the area is etc?
#36
February 23, 2012 8:44 AM - dibs
That part of Broadway is really moving. Yes for hipsters.
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#37
February 23, 2012 8:46 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"We can collectively watch Cobble become more frazzled as the time approaches!!!!"

I've taken extreme measures to prevent this. Including lunch with a CH friend so that I won't be able to spend 3-4 hours running Q-tips into nooks and crannies around the apt. looking for imaginary dust or dirt! : P
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:46 AM
#38
February 23, 2012 8:48 AM - dibs
Will there be alcohol consumption at lunch??? I could see that getting out of hand.


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#39
February 23, 2012 8:52 AM - Donatella
I am listening to a "futurist" right now -- the ANSWER to all our petrorisk is BIOFUELS. Like "plastics" in the 60s. This is the ethanol lobby's annual meeting. They are a riot. Beating the drums.
Edited at February 23, 2012 8:52 AM
#40
February 23, 2012 8:52 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
LOL! No, I'm planning to reserve all alcohol intake 'til she gets here, lest she arrive to find me splayed out on the living room floor! Tends not to make a very good impression!
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#41
February 23, 2012 8:55 AM - More4Less
Yeah DIBS, that's what the agent told my buddy when he told him to consider that area for rental income - ie lots of hipsters, white folks, etc moving in. that area looks a lot light roosevelt ave in queens that I'm more familar with - ie overhead subway tracks, busy retail stores beneath, tons of minorities in the area
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#42
February 23, 2012 9:01 AM - Arkady
M4L - Ceiling lighting in bedroom is not a good idea. Downlights make it impossible to evaluate clothing & makeup. Having to get up to turn off a light after you're finished reading in bed is also a major drag. You're much better off w/ table lights either side of the bed or backboard lights.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:01 AM
#43
February 23, 2012 9:02 AM - Arkady
CHiller - My housekeeper had an 8:00 a.m. appt at a hospital yesterday - she was seen at 2:30!!!! When she threatened to leave she was told, "That's your decision."
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#44
February 23, 2012 9:10 AM - More4Less
Arkady, ceiling light is for the kid's room. table lamps for my room - ie so I can roll over to close light without getting out of bed
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#45
February 23, 2012 9:11 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"My housekeeper had an 8:00 a.m. appt at a hospital yesterday - she was seen at 2:30!!!! When she threatened to leave she was told, "That's your decision.""

6.5 hours! OUTRAGEOUS! And completely OUTRAGEOUS attitude! Total lack of respect for people's time, extreme disorganization/mismanagement!
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:11 AM
#46
February 23, 2012 9:15 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I can't wait for them to call me on Monday night and demand that I arrive TWO hours before procedure! I'm going to have fun telling them 'No, I'm sorry, that's simply not possible, I will arrive precisely ONE hour before, absolutely unavoidable, will not be able to arrive two hours before hand. Toodle-loo!"
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:15 AM
#47
February 23, 2012 9:22 AM - Arkady
Ceiling light is o.k. in kids' room so long as you don't have bunk beds in there.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:22 AM
#48
February 23, 2012 9:23 AM - Arkady

chiller - Why invite a confrontation? Just acquiesce & arrive an hour late w/ apologies.
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#49
February 23, 2012 9:29 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Just acquiesce & arrive an hour late w/ apologies."

That's what BH suggested. Perhaps I'll do that instead. I'm just so aggravated. Really I should save it all up for Board and head of department.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:29 AM
#50
February 23, 2012 9:31 AM - Arkady
Why get in a twist before you have the procedure - you're tense enough going in? And possibly alienate people in a position to hurt you?
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:31 AM
#51
February 23, 2012 9:34 AM - More4Less
or the other option is show up early to put down name / sign in then go back home to sleep then show up 1 hr late - assuming it's close enough to aptmt to pull this off conveniently
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:34 AM
#52
February 23, 2012 9:38 AM - More4Less
DH, I think those "L" stoops are called dog tail or something like that from my memory of reading MM's threads. I agree they're the best of the stoop variations. only better hanging out option in front of house, other than this, is those skinny front porches at the parlor level (ie we see those often with houses in NOLA)
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:38 AM
#53
February 23, 2012 9:41 AM - petebklyn
my guess is pic of those houses is park slope. near the park. not the wannabe parkslope of where rob lives.
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#54
February 23, 2012 9:43 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
And i always get dark colored ones because with white, the skid marks never really wash out.

guh-ROSS! skid marks!? you either dont wipe your ass properly or that's what happens when anuses get stretched out in ways they shouldnt! you should buy those raspberry wipes that DH said he uses

*rob*

Edited at February 23, 2012 9:43 AM
#55
February 23, 2012 9:43 AM - petebklyn
often need to show up way before official procedure time is prep. lot of paperwork - insurance, sign release, check vitals, etc, etc, etc.
#56
February 23, 2012 9:44 AM - Arkady
I agree, pete. It looks like southeast corner of 8th Av @ Lincoln.
#57
February 23, 2012 9:48 AM - petebklyn
I don't understand where someone on here said can't track packages from usps. I ordered something other day from internet....received tracking number for usps.
I opened my email again this morning to get the tracking number....and the delivery status is embedded in old email -- up-to-date from this morning even though email was sent couple of days ago. I didn't even have to go to usps website.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:48 AM
#58
February 23, 2012 9:49 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
yeah that's the Bougeouse Hill section of park slope.


*rob*

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#59
February 23, 2012 9:51 AM - Arkady
It depends on the service paid for, pete. Some shippers pay more & get that kind of coverage. Pretty much all parcels now have a tracking number - even Media Mail - but the buyer must pay extra to have access to the info & that can be done at several different price points.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:51 AM
#60
February 23, 2012 9:51 AM - petebklyn
had my first hotcross buns of lent. entenmann's though. but pretty good. I don't even know where to buy bakery ones these days...now that College bakery is history.
all entenmann's is onsale at my metfood for $2.99 ....list price on the box of buns was $6.49.

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#61
February 23, 2012 9:52 AM - etson
Pretty sure Arkady is right, 8th between Lincoln and Berkeley.
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#62
February 23, 2012 9:53 AM - petebklyn
and you are in parklumpen slope?


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#63
February 23, 2012 9:54 AM - petebklyn
arkady is always right.
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#64
February 23, 2012 9:55 AM - etson
Lol Pete. He lives on the downslope.
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#65
February 23, 2012 9:56 AM - dibs
The houses are in Bed Stuy, Stuyvesant Ave around Jefferson.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:56 AM
#66
February 23, 2012 9:59 AM - etson
Really? Just looked on googlemaps now. The east side of 8th b/w Lincoln and Berkeley is identical down to the dentists' office signs outside the houses.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:59 AM
#67
February 23, 2012 10:01 AM - dibs
Well then the label was wrong on the internet pic. I've never seen misinformation on the internet before.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:01 AM
#68
February 23, 2012 10:02 AM - dibs
And there are identical houses on that block on Stuyvesant. I looked at one.
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#69
February 23, 2012 10:02 AM - etson
Obvs can't be 100% sure.
Look at '30 8th Avenue Brooklyn' or similar on google streetview & see what you think.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:02 AM
#70
February 23, 2012 10:03 AM - petebklyn
on my internet journey -- they are not stuyvesant avenue....similar stoops but stuyvesant has some light colored townhouses mixed in ..these seem all dark brown or brick.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:03 AM
#71
February 23, 2012 10:07 AM - DeLepp
good gracious, reading 67 posts with hand over one eye @ 10 AM and already TMI!
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#72
February 23, 2012 10:08 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm just going by what the nurse, who tested me, told me yesterday. She normally works in the OR area, and told me I will likely see her up there on Tuesday.

Edited at February 23, 2012 10:08 AM
#73
February 23, 2012 10:14 AM - Kensingtonian
M4L, the fact that your coop doesn't let you drop the line into the ceiling and cut small squares to do it is ridiculous. Why can't you do that?

Running a track light is just awful....BTW, ceiling lights in bedroom is not terrible. I put all my lights on remote controls so I don't have to get out of bed to turn them off. They sell the switch and remote at home depot for about 30 bucks. I can install it in 10 minutes.

Just don't say anything to the coop and have your contractor cut small holes and snake the wires through the ceiling. No one at the coop board will know it happened if he does it in a day and patches up the holes. Afterwards they wont be able to prove shit (or just claim it was already there done by the old owner). They have no pictures from before so can't prove squat...This is coming to you from a Board Member ;o).
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:14 AM
#74
February 23, 2012 10:21 AM - Kensingtonian
I honestly don't think showing up 2 hours early before Surgery is that big of a deal. A lot of things can happen to skew the schedule, especially for surgeons. paperwork, pre-testing, talk with anesthesiologist, etc....Surgeons sometimes have emergency surgeries right before or after the person scheduled so it takes times.

Regular doctor visit I can understand not wanting to wait more than an hour but at a hospital it's very different. My family goes to a GI doctor because of history of cancer and sometimes I or my parents had to wait there for 2-3 hours. He explained to us that he tries to give enough time to every patient and he is very meticulous but sometimes when he does a colonoscopy it usually takes 40-45 minutes but when he is doing the procedure he might find polyps or other issues that need time to fix/remove while doing the procedure and the whole schedule for the day gets screwed up. His assistant told us that he schedules patients to end the day at 8pm but sometimes they are there (the workers and doctor) until 11pm-midnight because of one complex procedure or some emergency calls.

I never complain about that and just know that if I have an appointment to him, I clear half a day because I expect for him to take as much time with me as I need and only fair for other patients to expect the same thing.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:21 AM
#75
February 23, 2012 10:24 AM - dibs
m4l, did you tip the Super before starting tis job???
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:24 AM
#76
February 23, 2012 10:28 AM - Kensingtonian
Seriously M4L, take care of the super and all shall be fine. If they end up sending you a 200 dollar fine, either lie that it wasn't there or pay it and they can't do anything more legally. Coop Boards really don't have THAT much power that people think they do. They can scare you all they want but trust me, it would take hundreds of thousands of dollars to sue you or evict you because of a ceiling light (if at all possible) and no one would ever do that. You can sue hardcore if they try to retaliate somehow and you'll win (judges are always on the side of the common folk in real estate courts unless the claim is very legit). I can tell you first hand stories from personal experience but not on here.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:28 AM
#77
February 23, 2012 10:35 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
wow. someone's moral compass is seriously fucked

*rob*

Edited at February 23, 2012 10:35 AM
#78
February 23, 2012 10:35 AM - dibs
" I can tell you first hand stories from personal experience but not on here."

Why not??? rob tells us all about his personal experiences with his hand
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:35 AM
#79
February 23, 2012 10:39 AM - Kensingtonian
I never claimed to have morals. I am in the future republican club after all :o)

And you should be the last one talking about moral compass.....
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:39 AM
#80
February 23, 2012 10:42 AM - Kensingtonian
Rob, you have to understand that dropping the wiring in the ceiling (if done properly) is absolutely fine. What happens is that some idiot in the coop did a shoddy wiring and probably fucked something up so then he fucked it up for everyone else who tries to do it the right way. So instead of the board enacting a rule stating that if you fuck it up, you pay for damages, they enacted a rule saying you just can't do it period. They are either lazy, stupid, or don't want to bother with the issues so they set that rule. I don't blame that but making M4L to opt for track lighting because of someone's idiocy is just idiotic in itself.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:42 AM
#81
February 23, 2012 10:42 AM - Deleted
lol @ rob and moral compass
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#82
February 23, 2012 10:45 AM - etson
I'm sure making someone have track lighting is unconstitutional. Cruel & unusual punishment.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:45 AM
#83
February 23, 2012 10:45 AM - dibs
What's a moral compass??? I see it ends with "ass" (nh).
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#84
February 23, 2012 10:46 AM - Kensingtonian
Hey Rob, go look at the average rents blog post on bstoner. You're about to be priced out of Brooklyn....Yet people still saying it's not worth it to buy.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:46 AM
#85
February 23, 2012 10:52 AM - lechacal
Strange and unexpected side effect of high-volume endurance training: decreased libido. Strangely, I don't briefly imagine myself having sex with every vaguely attractive woman I see on the street.

I'm on the uphill end of my training regimen (34 miles in week 1, 40 week 2, last week was 47, on my way up to 50).

I imagine there will be a lot of stored up dirty thoughts that will come out on the downhill end as I taper back to zero before the next race.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:52 AM
#86
February 23, 2012 10:53 AM - lechacal
Is this what it's like to be a female? They don't constantly think about sex, right?
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#87
February 23, 2012 10:53 AM - dibs
Funny, I just started an exercise program and I'm as horny and promiscuous as always.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:53 AM
#88
February 23, 2012 10:54 AM - lechacal
Although I am constantly thinking about not constantly thinking about sex. It's just not right. A man should want to fuck things.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:54 AM
#89
February 23, 2012 10:55 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I only brought it up because the nurse, who saw me yesterday, also works in the OR and brought it up unbidden. She was sympathetic and I assume hoping to help me cut down on the BS. I would have just shown up 2 hours ahead, because I tend to 'color within the lines' on these things.

IF the hospital had told me it would take 2-3+ hours for the pre-testing, including mostly wait time, yesterday, since testing and paperwork took all of 30 +/- minutes, I would have cleared the decks and made the time. But as it was I had slated 2 hours total and committed to picking up the short people and there was no alternate plan available on short notice. My bad. I was unaware that this is the norm.

I am very tense/concerned about this procedure. I really shouldn't have brought it up here. Please consider the subject dropped.



Edited at February 23, 2012 10:55 AM
#90
February 23, 2012 10:55 AM - More4Less
Kens, coop doesn't allow channeling in cement ceiling as they don't want structural integrity compromised - even if small risk. this is not the same as doing this via the wooden cross bream ceilings which does not present any such risk unless someone chooses to go thru (vs along) the beams. bldg mgt are bigger watch dogs than DOB. this coop doesn't mess around. They run everything by the books and they do random inspections. there is no super but a maintenance crew
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:55 AM
#91
February 23, 2012 10:56 AM - lechacal
DIBS, I doubt you are getting anywhere near the level of endurance training required to turn off the perv. Some exercise increases libido. Very high volume endurance training kills it.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:56 AM
#92
February 23, 2012 10:57 AM - Donatella
Speaking of rents, Greenpoint is $$$$. I saw an apt, a rathole really- a half a floor studio in a walk up - maybe 375 sq feet for1200 $$. I think I am seriously below market.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:57 AM
#93
February 23, 2012 11:10 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
market schmarket, just remember donna, the more you raise your rents the more potential boring and asshole tenants youre gonna wind up with.

*rob*



Edited at February 23, 2012 11:10 AM
#94
February 23, 2012 11:14 AM - Donatella
I told you rob, I like boring. Also it cost money to maintain these old buildings.
Edited at February 23, 2012 11:14 AM
#95
February 23, 2012 11:14 AM - lechacal
Cobble, one of my sisters is having surgery right now at Lenox hill - planned procedure for endometriosis (sp?). I'm heading up in a bit to take her a care package - chicken noodle soup, snacks, girl magazines.

Doctor said the only way to cure it is for her to get pregnant. Problem is, her fiancee is from a traditional Greek family so no way can she do so before the wedding - and of course the wedding has to happen at e family church on some island in the Aegean sea, and right now Greece is in shambles.... Curious confluence of health concerns and family drama. Ain't no family drama like a Greek family drama.
Edited at February 23, 2012 11:14 AM
#96
February 23, 2012 11:18 AM - Deleted
greenpoint is mad expensive now donatella. i saw several rathole one bedrooms up there for above 2k. hadn't been renovated since the 70s
Edited at February 23, 2012 11:18 AM
#97
February 23, 2012 11:19 AM - More4Less
My buddy who is going to look at some rental ppties in Bushwick near the gates ave J/Z stop said agent told him rents are pretty strong - ie $1800 is very doable for a flr-thru 700 sq ft unit if it's nicely renovated. I don't have any research or knowledge to refute that claim but if thru, it's pretty strong rents for bushwick
Edited at February 23, 2012 11:19 AM
#98
February 23, 2012 11:19 AM - Deleted
well, the area around franklin st. still deals to be had over near mcgolrick park.
Edited at February 23, 2012 11:19 AM
#99
February 23, 2012 11:19 AM - Kensingtonian
M4L, good point. If it's cement, I can understand. I just always thought that in those building there is a bit of room between cement ceiling and actual sheetrock/plaster. If not, then it makes total sense. You'll have to drill into cement to run wires. That's a big problem with highrises. Also, BTW, I strongly suggest you get a humidifier for your rooms because in those building, you essentially live in a cement box and there is no wood (no homo) inside the walls for your apartment to breathe. That's not good for your health.

Lech, I thought leg exercises should be releasing testostorone in your body therefore making you MORE horny. Am I wrong on that understanding?
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February 23, 2012 11:19 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm sorry to hear that, lech. I hope it all goes smoothly for her. Lenox Hill is a good hospital, good friends of mine have been patients there. I like the docs affiliated, they tend to actually speak to/communicate with one another. You're a good brother to visit and take gifties.
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February 23, 2012 11:20 AM - Deleted
oh yeha m4l - just saw your question earlier.

there's definitely stuff opening up in that area of bushwick, but i'm not really familiar with it. i tend to stay up north near the L train.
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February 23, 2012 11:21 AM - Arkady
Lech - I think she'd've had to have the procedure anyway before she got pregnant otherwise the pregnancy could be iffy.
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February 23, 2012 11:21 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
well by renting to moonfaces you destroy the quality of life for people who are not moonfaces in the neighborhood. and that makes someone a bad neighbor

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 11:26 AM - Kensingtonian
Lech, hope all goes well for your sis. Lenox Hill is a great hospital. My ex works there in CCU.

I would love to rent to moonfaces. I wish someone gave me 1,500 rent for my studio. Rents in Bushwick and Greenpoint are crazy these days. I wouldn't be able to afford anything up there. You can get a really nice 2 bedroom for 1,500 in my building but you have to go through board approval and all that jazz.
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February 23, 2012 11:29 AM - lechacal
"Lech, I thought leg exercises should be releasing testostorone in your body therefore making you MORE horny. Am I wrong on that understanding?"

Again, there is a tipping point. Exercise increases sex drive. High-volume endurance training kills it.
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February 23, 2012 11:29 AM - Deleted
i remember when i was in school and one bedrooms in greenpoint were well below 1,000 bucks. obviously things have changed a bit up there, but not enough to warrant double the price.
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February 23, 2012 11:30 AM - lechacal
Just heard from her fiancÚ, sister is out of surgery, went well.

Correct arkady, step one is surgery, step two is get pregnant. That of course has to wait for a big fat Greek wedding.... In Greece.
February 23, 2012 11:31 AM - Donatella
I don't know what moon faces are. I have two nice, tidy, sweet, accomplished young women in my bldg. They pay me on time, both make good money, have nice friends, boyfriends, families. One is from Columbus, Ohio; the other one from Chicago. If they are moo faces, I <3 moon faces!!!!
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February 23, 2012 11:33 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I remember when $450/month got you a floor-through in a nice big Carroll Gardens brownstone!
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February 23, 2012 11:34 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
they should go back to ohio and chicagoland

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 11:35 AM - lechacal
So basically I may be going to Greece in the next few months. Should be an adventure. Perhaps we'll fly to Istanbul and then make our way to e island so as to avoid Athens.
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February 23, 2012 11:37 AM - Kensingtonian
Donatella, don't you remember Rob's definition of a moonface?

It's pretty much anyone he is jealous off. Basically most of NYC's under 40 years olds. It's anyone who has parents help them out or anyone that can make a living just blogging on their laptops at a coffee shop or anyone who is upper middle class or anyone who happens to dress nicely. I can keep on going and going.
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February 23, 2012 11:38 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Greek Islands look lovely, on my list of places to visit in this lifetime. Even better that you'll be with fiance's (Greek) family. Look forward to good seafood!
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February 23, 2012 11:38 AM - Kensingtonian
off=of. I am terrible with grammar and spelling, especially when I am doing some idiotic spreadsheet or presentation at the same time.
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February 23, 2012 11:39 AM - More4Less
I think I'll tag along with buddy if my schedule permits. Curious to see what these rental properties' asking prices are, what are "nicely renovated" units renting out for $1800, etc.
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February 23, 2012 11:39 AM - dibs
"I remember when $450/month got you a floor-through in a nice big Carroll Gardens brownstone!"

And then the war came.
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February 23, 2012 11:39 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
um there are moonfaces in their late 40s you know. age has nothing to do with it. some of the most vile of moonfaces are in their 30s and 40s

*rob*

February 23, 2012 11:40 AM - dibs
rob, no landlord wants tenants with a lot of drama and mental baggage.
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February 23, 2012 11:40 AM - Kensingtonian
I bet Dona's tenants are cute. How come you didn't introduce me or DH to them back in the day? huh? :o)
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February 23, 2012 11:44 AM - rf
Lechacal, if your sister's fiance puts up with family saying that she'll never have children because she can't get married their way right now and she'll lose her chance unless she gets pregnant soon--time for him to man up. If the wedding in Greece is do-able, go for it. Otherwise, city hall for them.
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February 23, 2012 11:47 AM - Arkady
The apts I rent are 1600 sq ft plus. Rents are 2600 & 2700 - no utilities included: individual heat & hot water. No bldg svc. & tenants must deal w/ rubbish/recycling. South Slope btwn 6th & 7th. It's below mkt but the tenants are no hassle married couples.
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February 23, 2012 11:52 AM - Kensingtonian
wow Arkady. That still seems a lot to me but what do I know about market rents in Park Slope. I am sure it's below market. Do these couples make over 200K combined? I just can't see myself affording a 3,000 a month (with heat/water) unless I am making at least like 150K or 200K for a family.
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February 23, 2012 11:54 AM - lechacal
They are considering city hall, rf. The theory is that a Greek family is completely impossible to satisfy, so you might as well disappoint them and get it over with. That way at least you know where you stand.

Another possibility is a stateside wedding followed by a ceremony sometime later in Greece. I have friends who did that in Hawaii / Scotland.
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February 23, 2012 11:55 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Here's my lunchtime commentary:

1. When I sublet from a friend in Greenpoint in 2000, it was $800/month for a huge railroad apartment on India Street. It was great except there was no sink in the bathroom.

2. I bet those Greek island vacations will be dirt cheap this year because a) scared-y cats will stay away, and b) the Greek economy is, well, the Greek economy.

3. Kens, there's a "Kensingtoner" commenting on That Other Site.

Ok - see you at pre-happy hour time.
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February 23, 2012 11:57 AM - petebklyn
only a wuss would avoid athens because of a little civil disturbance. It is way of life there. besides - don't have to go downtown athens to take ferry to islands. Port isn't really in athens anyway.

my 1st solo apt was studio in prime cobble hill for $175 - rent stabiized.
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February 23, 2012 11:57 AM - rf
The stateside wedding followed by ceremony later in Greece sounds perfect. I was just saying that the idea of a guy not willing to stand up to his parents over an issue as important as the ability to have children (assuming they want them) sets off very loud alarms for me!
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February 23, 2012 12:00 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"my 1st solo apt was studio in prime cobble hill for $175 - rent stabiized."

Braggart! And I bet it wasn't 1/3 or more of your income, too.
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February 23, 2012 12:00 PM - dibs
Six, imagine how cheap they would be if they went back to the drachma!!!!!
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February 23, 2012 12:00 PM - lechacal
These are Greeks, rf. They're like people, but angrier.
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February 23, 2012 12:01 PM - Kensingtonian
Who is stealing my name on that site?! Oh well, barely post there anyways. my sis who used to post there pre-website change w/problems time was "Kensingtonka".
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February 23, 2012 12:04 PM - dibs
Is Mrs lechacal bringing a bundt cake to the big fat Greek wedding????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JukoIJA8MTc
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February 23, 2012 12:05 PM - Arkady
Kens - One couple does $200K. - the other has been there since '06 so I don't know their income - no rent increase since then. The apts are gorgeous - light & airy, ice maker, d/w, w/d, huge bath & closets. Realtors say they're way under but I think liking/knowing tenants is preferable.
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February 23, 2012 12:06 PM - More4Less
Arkady, for that rent, I would've moved to South Slope vs paying thru nose along with renov moving to LES
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February 23, 2012 12:07 PM - Arkady
I used to pay $125. for a 1-bed on 12th ST. & Greenwich Av. in the Village.
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February 23, 2012 12:07 PM - dibs
Ice maker???? I've NEVER seen an apt with a fridge with an ice maker.

I take back every bad thing I've ever said about you, Arkady.
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February 23, 2012 12:07 PM - Arkady
M4L - I thought of you but tenants want to stay.
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February 23, 2012 12:08 PM - Arkady
We wanted tenants to have what we'd've liked ourselves.
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February 23, 2012 12:12 PM - etson
"I just can't see myself affording a 3,000 a month (with heat/water) unless I am making at least like 150K or 200K for a family."

I used to pay $3000ish for a couple of years when my base was somewhat less than that & was able to save money just fine. Guess it would be different with kids.
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February 23, 2012 12:21 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
picked up a village voice cuz im curious how bad rents are.. and usually the apts / rooms advertised in there are legit for the most part. saw this one, too bad im not looking to move anytime soon tho.

CPW BET 107th & 108th
One Larg BR, must be Prof'l
Smokers OK, Pet-Friendly
$765 includes utilities
scoobydoorusty@aol.com


damn that is an amazing deal. the person is probably a freak tho.
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February 23, 2012 12:21 PM - Kensingtonian
Yea etson, if I was alone I can see it. I was more referring to a family with income of 200K and 2 kids let's say. Plus my gf likes fur so right there that figure goes up to 250K lol.
February 23, 2012 12:21 PM - etson
My first rent after college 500 pounds / month (about $800). Last year in college four of us shared a house for about $300/mo each.
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February 23, 2012 12:23 PM - Kensingtonian
Rob, anyone with an email addy like scoobydoorusty yet wanting professinals to live with them must be a little kooky.
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February 23, 2012 12:25 PM - lechacal
Heading up to Vermont this weekend (driving sister up as soon as she is recovered). Wife and kids already up there. It's sugaring season, so our neighbor will be boiling sap all weekend. Great thing for the kids to see.
February 23, 2012 12:25 PM - dibs
Maybe he's hinting that if you give him a monthly rusty trombone your rent will be even lower
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February 23, 2012 12:25 PM - etson
Think you'd like that location Rob. Just opposite the north end of the park. Nice enough but not many 'moonfaces' to worry about until you go a few blocks south or west.
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February 23, 2012 12:27 PM - Kensingtonian
Spanish harlem still has pretty decent deals. About 3 months ago I went with a friend of mine to look at an apartment on Lex and 119th. Right by express 4,5 stop as well as 6. The apartment was fully renovated and brand spanking new with stainless steel appliances and since the building is a converted old people's home, it has all utilities included because no individual meters. The building is not nice but windows in apartment were fairly big and the area has gotten much better than what I remember it being. Bunch of moonfaces on the street too. Rent for one bedroom was $1,450 and that included ALL utilities (except cable). Building had a doorman too.
February 23, 2012 12:28 PM - lechacal
" Plus my gf likes fur so right there that figure goes up to 250K lol."

If you don't nip that shit in the bud you're in for a world of hurt. A woman who needs expensive things to be kept happy is nothing but a liability.
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February 23, 2012 12:31 PM - DeLepp
What a day, lost 5 colleagues today so far. My hand is raised...
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February 23, 2012 12:32 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
women who like diamonds and fur coats and stuff are WAAAAAAAAAAY better in the sack i bet than frumpy uptight food co-op type of women. just my guess, i could be wrong tho


*rob*

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February 23, 2012 12:32 PM - lechacal
Oof, sorry delepp.

Is this group unusually prone to adverse employment situations or do people think this is a good approximation of average for people of this age and socioeconomic grouping in NYC? There has been a steady drumbeat.
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February 23, 2012 12:33 PM - etson
Sorry to hear about that DeLepp.
Sounds like a big Martini night needed whatever happens.
Given our relatively similar industries let me know if you want me to start digging around.
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February 23, 2012 12:33 PM - DeLepp
I wore my mother's stole(sp) one year for halloween when I went as aunt clara.
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February 23, 2012 12:34 PM - lechacal
You are soooo wrong about that rob. Best in bed are the ones who are really comfortable with themselves, and in my experience that isn't correlated with being a materialistic money grubber.
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February 23, 2012 12:34 PM - etson
My guess (and only a guess): this group is a bit worse off than average but not dramatically so.
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February 23, 2012 12:35 PM - dibs
I bet you also wore her dresses when you were in your "formative" years
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February 23, 2012 12:36 PM - dibs
It's too nice out to stay here in the office. I'm heading home
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February 23, 2012 12:37 PM - DeLepp
had 3 martinis last night...
Unfortunately these people they let go were in the 50s. Nice packages but dispiriting as that knowledge goes out door. In the last 3 years this fim has let got 2000 people.
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February 23, 2012 12:38 PM - petebklyn
how about ones that like faux fur and accessorize with hello kitty ?
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February 23, 2012 12:38 PM - dibs
"Unfortunately these people they let go were in the 50s. Nice packages ..."

Hmmmmm.
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February 23, 2012 12:39 PM - More4Less
Delepp, was this a surprise or it was expected - even if timing was a little off?
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February 23, 2012 12:41 PM - Kensingtonian
Delepp, sorry to hear that. Let me know also if something happens as I have a bunch of contacts in finance.

Lech, I am only semi-joking about my gf. She is pretty money concious but comes from a fairly well off family and does like fashion and nice things but never expects/wants me to buy her anything. Definitely not a gold digger but I can't blame a girl for liking nice things.

Lech, also I think for this group, it's more socioeconomic grouping in NYC and definitely not the average of the market. Given I don't have many older friends than I am, I barely know anyone outside of this group who have gotten laid off and those that did either were dumbasses and I knew they would be fired as I don't even know how they landed those jobs in a first place or those that got laid off and took packages and actually ended up with even better jobs than before. None of my friends who worked at Lehman or Merrill became unemployed. All either got jobs at different banks or their groups got bought with them on staff by the other banks.
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February 23, 2012 12:43 PM - DeLepp
Rumor has it that they didn't have enought $$ to pay packages in December so they waited till now. Equity side of business has tanked and they are "re-inventing" themselves for 3rd time. It has been a shocking decline since middle of 2007 for them.
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February 23, 2012 12:44 PM - More4Less
Delepp, wow, 2k peeps is even more than my company. My sector stinks but even we're not at that pace the last few yrs. We would have to go back to Internet bubble burst days for that pace.
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February 23, 2012 12:46 PM - DeLepp
40% let go since july 2008. big shots knew shit was hitting fan after bear stearns but chose to hang on all the way down to bottom.
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February 23, 2012 12:47 PM - Arkady
I paid 10 pounds a week ($50) in Shepherd's Bush in the mid-60s - big one bedroom plus garden. My landlord was Sir George Young - now a noted parliamentarian.
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February 23, 2012 12:49 PM - More4Less
Delepp, this like our firing when internet bubble burst. we went from 30k to 5k employees in a blink.
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February 23, 2012 12:49 PM - Arkady
Oh, & it was fully furnished inc. pots & pans & linens & came w/ a t.v.
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February 23, 2012 1:00 PM - etson
Leader of the House of Commons, no less.
And a Conservative!
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February 23, 2012 1:18 PM - Deleted
"Spanish harlem still has pretty decent deals. About 3 months ago I went with a friend of mine to look at an apartment on Lex and 119th. Right by express 4,5 stop as well as 6. "

I find Spanish Harlem to be really depressing.


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February 23, 2012 1:20 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"What a day, lost 5 colleagues today so far. My hand is raised..."

Very sorry to hear it, delepp. : (
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February 23, 2012 1:34 PM - Donatella
I paid 90 bucks for a floor thru on upper East side. I was a part time super (mopped hallways).

My tenants ARE cute Kens. One has a boyfriend. The other is dating different people.

I am listening to Robert Gibbs and Karl Rove bloviating at this luncheon.
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February 23, 2012 1:36 PM - Donatella
Sorry Delepp. Hope you get get laid off too if that is what you want. Sometimes it is a good thing.
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February 23, 2012 1:51 PM - Kensingtonian
DH, Spanish harlem is changing drastically. Not sure when you were there last time but lately it's totally different then what it was before. Not Willyburg transformation but definitely better.

Dona, wish I knew that before had a gf about the one that "dates" different men. Hope this is not her...

http://gothamist.com/2011/11/29/recession_tip_make_matchcom_suckers.php


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February 23, 2012 1:55 PM - Deleted
haven't been up there in about a year. two of my buddies were roommates up there (both lesbians) and whenever they would walk their dog they would get incessantly harassed (they lived on 102 and 2nd) needless to say they moved to bushwick where they have not been bothered.
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February 23, 2012 1:56 PM - Deleted
actually, 112th and 2nd
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February 23, 2012 2:00 PM - etson
Used to drive past there every day on the way back from work when I lived on the UES and worked in CT.
Spanish Harlem always seemed OK enough but not somewhere I'd choose to live.
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February 23, 2012 2:01 PM - Donatella
Lol Kens. I say she is dating different people because nobody steady-- it seems.
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February 23, 2012 2:04 PM - dibs
Sitting on the deck, enjoying the birds and the sun.
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February 23, 2012 2:08 PM - Slope4Eva
Well its been a while, Hi. My first post here. Kinda follwed you guys from "over there", but never had anything to say. Re: endomitriosis. Been there, done that. I was put on Danizol (sp?) for close to a year after surgery. Male hormones, my family called them my "bitch pills". Bottom line. Surgery, close to a year on meds, my honeymoon baby was born 4 years later. Although obviously I had no trouble conceiving, my doctor was constantly asking me, "are you ready to have a baby"?
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February 23, 2012 2:11 PM - dibs
Welcome, slope4eva.
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February 23, 2012 2:12 PM - Slope4Eva
Thanks, I was getting nervous, thinking, "ugh, now I'm a threadkiller".
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February 23, 2012 2:13 PM - dibs
You know who are the biggest MORONS in the world???? Those who Reply To All when an email blast is sent out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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February 23, 2012 2:15 PM - Deleted
welcome slope!

amen dibs. i fuckin hate when people do that. it's so annoying.
February 23, 2012 2:20 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
. I say she is dating different people because nobody steady-- it seems.

she sounds like one of those "dinner whores" that are so numerous in the female population of NYC. you know what? maybe you SHOULD go ahead and raise her rent. she probably doesnt have a grocery bill!


*rob*

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February 23, 2012 2:20 PM - Kensingtonian
Hi Slope4Eva. Welcome...

DH, maybe you're right. I walked down streets with my friend but it was on a saturday afternoon so lots of people out there.

Dave, lmao, I love those. My company is 30K employees so once in a while someone in China will send an email to everyone by mistake and then you get 100 replies to ALL (or group list) to take them off the email while another 100 people reply saying NOT to reply to all.
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February 23, 2012 2:21 PM - dibs
rob, your rent should be raised because you don't pay to get your taxes done. Well, maybe not because you'll need to pay next year. Either that or get half a brain to fill out a 1040EZ
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February 23, 2012 2:22 PM - Kensingtonian
Rob, see the article I linked from gothamist above. It's exactly about dinner whores lol.
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February 23, 2012 2:23 PM - dibs
Yes, I just replied to all of them threatening them with public embarrassement when they are supposed to meet
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February 23, 2012 2:25 PM - dibs
LOL,,,"food hooking"
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February 23, 2012 2:29 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
seriously. someday soon the vagina bubble is going to pop as well.

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 2:31 PM - More4Less
is it worth paying $40 to get each door pre-hung (obviously nh)?
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February 23, 2012 2:31 PM - Kensingtonian
Dave, I call it "the Jdate meal plan". That website is notorious for that.
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February 23, 2012 2:33 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
JDate meal plan LFMAO

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 2:34 PM - jessibaby
Finally - Rob and Kens have found something they have in common - taking pleasure in insulting women.
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February 23, 2012 2:36 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh stop it jessi, there are tons of homo men who dinner hook with old men too


*rob*

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February 23, 2012 2:37 PM - dibs
probably worth it, m4l as the actual hanging will involve more than that in the cost of routing out for the hinges and buying and installing the casings. This way the whole thing is just shimmed into the rough opening
February 23, 2012 2:38 PM - Kensingtonian
Do tell JB how I am insulting women. All I said is that Jdate is notorious for having girls go out for dinner with guys just to get a free meal. I actually personally know girls that do that. Why don't I bet you 100 dollars and I'll have them come on here and tell you that they in fact have done it.

That's very different from Rob saying things like women popping babies to make money from gov't.

Stop trying to pull a Lech and bait. It doesn't go with your avatar.
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February 23, 2012 2:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
going to get iced coffee.. the meanie genie korean lady at the deli has been suspiciously nice to me lately... not giving me a cup FULL of ice, not mocking me when i say "light ice" and she says "aaaaaaaaaaooooooohhhhhhh lite ice lite ice"

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 2:39 PM - More4Less
slope4eva, welcome welcome. are you one of those slope hottie moms we met during one of our Stoner gatherings at Loki??
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February 23, 2012 2:39 PM - dibs
I don't pay for any dinners with strangers unless I've gotten the sex first. Then we can talk about dinner.

God knows, 80% of them don't even speak english
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February 23, 2012 2:39 PM - Kensingtonian
Actually JB, make that 500 bucks. It'll probably cost me dinner(s) to have them come here and admit to it lol.
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February 23, 2012 2:40 PM - dibs
rob, does she turn her back on you when she fills the cup???? I assume she's spitting in it.
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February 23, 2012 2:43 PM - Kensingtonian
Dave, I think we had a discussion on here about gay first dates. I always wondered if 2 women or 2 men go on a first date, who picks up the check. I heard either split or if it's a date where one person is substantially better off financially, that's the person who picks up the tab.


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February 23, 2012 2:46 PM - Slope4Eva
haha, ML4. I was probably at my best before most of you moved to Brooklyn. No, never met any of you.
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February 23, 2012 2:46 PM - dibs
I don't think there are any rules, Kens. If someone asks someone else out, the proper etiquette both hetero and homo is for that person doing the asking to offer to pick it up. But proper etiquette would also include the invited person offering to split it unless it was way beyond their means.

I don't take first dates to Le bernardin
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February 23, 2012 2:48 PM - Kensingtonian
Hmm Dibs, sounds like a very hetero thing. Guy should always pick up the tab in my book and girls should always offer to split but guy should refuse and pay. I've been on dates where girls didn't offer and it never led to a second date.
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February 23, 2012 2:50 PM - dibs
How many dates do you typically go on before you expect sex?????
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February 23, 2012 2:51 PM - Deleted
first dates should not be dinner
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February 23, 2012 2:52 PM - Arkady
The guy who accepts my offer to split the bill doesn't get a 2nd date.
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February 23, 2012 2:53 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
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That's very different from Rob saying things like women popping babies to make money from gov't.

it's no different. face it, your mistogamus!

*roB*

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February 23, 2012 2:53 PM - More4Less
Kens, it doesn't have to lead to a second date. it just has to lead into the bed sheets.
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February 23, 2012 2:54 PM - dibs
Yeah, dh, in fact I can't even remember when I ever went on a first date dinner date.

1. Exchange messages
2. Exchange photos
3. Invite over
4. Get naked
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February 23, 2012 2:56 PM - Deleted
haha dibs - and you both end up full and satisfied!
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February 23, 2012 2:57 PM - More4Less
Slope4eva, most of us were passed our prime when we moved to BK. I'm dragging my fat self across the river - back to LES to be more grounded. BK is now too fancy for this Chinaman now.
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February 23, 2012 2:57 PM - Slope4Eva
I believe my first date ever was smoking a J and seeing Fritz the Cat in the Avon on 9th Street. This is why I'm now a helicopter mom (sorta).
February 23, 2012 2:58 PM - Kensingtonian
Arkady, I don't blame you.

DH, I know what you're saying but I don't drink much so my first dates were almost always dinner or sometimes coffee/dessert.

Dave, I guess the unspoken rule is 3 dates before sexytime but I never followed any rules. Sometimes it'd take 2 dates, sometimes 10, I never paid much attention because I was looking for a relationship and not to jump into bed as fast as possible. If I wanted ass, I would just opt for craigslist and when I did have a casual relationship(s), we never really had dates to begin with (more like friends before and friends with benefits later).
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February 23, 2012 2:58 PM - Deleted
but seriously - dinner first dates? that's at least an hour of sitting down facing each other with (hopefully) uninterrupted conversation. if the person sucks you will know in the first 5 minutes - so that's 55+ minutes of pure torture.

February 23, 2012 2:58 PM - Deleted
yeah - coffee is a good alternative to booze, kens
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February 23, 2012 2:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i can't think of a single time ive ever paid on a date. i always just assumed the other person would pay. shrug

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 3:01 PM - Slope4Eva
MLF, I've mentioned before "over there", I've already been priced out of Brooklyn (Staten Island). But, I still have parents, etc. in the Slope, and my heart will ALWAYS belong to Brooklyn. Good luck with the move.
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February 23, 2012 3:01 PM - dibs
rob, when's the last time you were on a date???
February 23, 2012 3:02 PM - Slope4Eva
MFL, I've mentioned before "over there", I've already been priced out of Brooklyn (Staten Island). But, I still have parents, etc. in the Slope, and my heart will ALWAYS belong to Brooklyn. Good luck with the move.

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February 23, 2012 3:03 PM - dibs
Eva, my tenants are moving to SI. Not sure where. All I know is it's a cul de sac. I also sold my Bed Stuy house. I'm in it until the end of March and then off to PA but back here every other week
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February 23, 2012 3:03 PM - More4Less
DH, you'll find this funny & a little cruel. a buddy of mine used to take girls out for coffee then a movie - as the 1st date. the freaking dude would excuse himself to go to the bathroom then leave the girl in there wondering where the fuck is he. he doesn't do that all the time but he did it a few times when he felt the girl was a ticking mental time bomb.
February 23, 2012 3:05 PM - Kensingtonian
Dh, true, that's why coffee was for like blind dates (never picked up anyone at the bar/club so wouldn't know about those). For dinner dates, it would be like a friend of a friend whom I knew about or with someone I spoke to online like facebook/dating site so I knew we could hold a convo for an hour. I didn't do dinner dates with anyone whom I literally just met and barely spoke to.
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February 23, 2012 3:06 PM - Slope4Eva
Wow, are you all bailing on Brooklyn, :-( I'm on the South Shore, nothing fancy, townhouse community. it's OK. I saw your house pics on BS Dave, absolutely beautiful. Good luck to you, too.
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February 23, 2012 3:06 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
the freaking dude would excuse himself to go to the bathroom then leave the girl in there wondering where the fuck is he. he doesn't do that all the time but he did it a few times when he felt the girl was a ticking mental time bomb.

lol. i've done that a lot as well. i think it happened TO me once as well, but it wasnt a movie it was some music show. i just assumed the person didnt like the music.


*rob*

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February 23, 2012 3:09 PM - Kensingtonian
I knew a kid who would leave the girls at the restuarant with the tab if they pulled a "I need to go to the bathroom" right as the guy asked for the check. I always thought that was fucked up.

I never had anyone pull the "bathroom move" on me. Maybe because the girls kind of knew that I would pay. I was always very straight forward with that when I asked on the date (saying sometimes something along the lines of "let's do dinner at this or that place, my treat").
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February 23, 2012 3:10 PM - DeLepp
There was that date with a judge where not only did he drink my beer but took off his shirt in marys fish house.
February 23, 2012 3:12 PM - Deleted
haha m4l - that's pretty shitty. if you commit to doing X activities, you need to do those activities and man up.

my good buddy approaches dating girls with the "courting" technique. spends a shit ton of money wineing and dining them and then gets pissy when they go out on 5 dates or so, he drops like 1k and doesn't "get anything" out of it.

and he's far from a dirtbag trying to get laid. he's just very old fashioned and probably too nice and oftentimes gets screwed over.

i think going to dinner and the guy offering to pay for everything puts pressure on the girl to put out.
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February 23, 2012 3:14 PM - lechacal
Just came back from Lenox Hill; sister is doing fine, getting released today.
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February 23, 2012 3:16 PM - dibs
DeLepp, people should keep such things private as their own cherished secrets.
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February 23, 2012 3:16 PM - More4Less
DIBS, am surprised your tenants moved to SI. they both work in Manhattan right? But then it aint surprising when one considers how freaking pricey it is here - even in the ghetto. I do have to say my buddy who moved to ridgewood (near fresh pond rd) is very happy with that move. the area looks great. house, blocks, retail, etc all look great to me - way exceeded my expectations when I dropped by to visit him. Guess peeps who don't want to leave this landmass needs to look around for these "still not freaking outrageous priced" hoods.
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February 23, 2012 3:16 PM - Deleted
good news jackal!
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February 23, 2012 3:21 PM - dibs
Great, lech.
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February 23, 2012 3:22 PM - DeLepp
great news for sis
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February 23, 2012 3:22 PM - dibs
Minard's back over there, on the Insider.
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February 23, 2012 3:24 PM - jessibaby
What's better? 5 days in Tokyo or Buenos Aires?
February 23, 2012 3:26 PM - dibs
I'd prefer Tokyo for obvious reasons but it's harder if you haven't been there before whereas BA is a lot more easily done and far less "foreign."
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February 23, 2012 3:27 PM - DeLepp
BA is fun and cheap! Got some restaurants if you go.
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February 23, 2012 3:28 PM - Kensingtonian
"i think going to dinner and the guy offering to pay for everything puts pressure on the girl to put out."

Very good point there. I guess I always had a couple of phone convos before first dates with girls I really wanted to get to know better so that aliviated a lot of awkwardness on first date dinner. For blind dates, I usually did coffee.

Drinks also seem like a lot of pressure because girls might think you're trying to get them drunk and take advantage of them without feeding them first lol. I usually only invite for drinks if it's after dinner and date is going great.

.
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February 23, 2012 3:28 PM - dibs
Yeah, Tokyo isn't cheap.
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February 23, 2012 3:29 PM - Slope4Eva
Lechacal, your post regarding your sister prompted me to speak up. If interested in my experience with Endomitriosis, see my 2:08 post. I hope the best for her.
February 23, 2012 3:30 PM - jessibaby
Thanks, guys. Had a second interview and it's down to me and one or two others. If I get it, would like to take a quick trip before the start date.
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February 23, 2012 3:31 PM - dibs
WOW, fingers crossed, jessi.
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February 23, 2012 3:32 PM - jessibaby
Thanks, Dave. Keeping it a secret from my dad until I know so mum is the word.
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February 23, 2012 3:33 PM - More4Less
JB, is this the one you where you thought the dude might be thinking you're a little weird (with the peace corp & stuff) and under-qualified? if so, TOLDYA!!!!!!!! JB Charm in EFFECT - don't underestimate its powers
February 23, 2012 3:34 PM - jessibaby
No, not that one. I was quickly and summarily cut from the running at that place.
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February 23, 2012 3:35 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
tokyo has MUCH better websites than buenos aires. dont turistas get their heads cut off in buenos aires sometimes!?


*rob*

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February 23, 2012 3:39 PM - dibs
rob, are you more a Shibuya guy or do you prefer Shinjuku????
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February 23, 2012 3:49 PM - dibs
I'm sitting here eating ice cream out of the container. Have I suddenly become a depressed woman???
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February 23, 2012 3:52 PM - More4Less
DIBS, are you pairing that ice cream eating with some crappy TV show watching??? and hair is kind of messy too?
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February 23, 2012 3:54 PM - dibs
Yes, m4l, that's the situation. But I'll soon be riding horseback and frolicking on the beach even though I'm experiencing "monthly inconvenience"
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February 23, 2012 4:01 PM - Donatella
I think that first meeting someone is best over a drink. And if we have dinner and there is any of this splitting stuff, I'm out. No dice. Man pays. I am not cheap and I cook, buy tickets, etc. but if a man asks me out and expects me to pay.....bye bye. There is serious cognitive dissonance.
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February 23, 2012 4:05 PM - More4Less
if the girl is hot enough, I can overlook that stuff. But smoking is a hard no no with me - especially if I viewed that girl as potential gf or wife material.
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February 23, 2012 4:06 PM - Donatella
Jessi, buenos aires. It's summer there and because of exchange rates, Tokyo is crazy $$$$$.
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February 23, 2012 4:11 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
MIL in taxi. Eta 30-45 minutes. Can I officially freak out now? : P
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February 23, 2012 4:14 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Lech, Good news about your sister! Very glad to hear it.
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February 23, 2012 4:14 PM - dibs
Cobble, I hope you're at least out of the bath and your hair is dry...
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February 23, 2012 4:15 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
LOL! I showered this morning, but my hair is standing on end just the same! : P
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February 23, 2012 4:22 PM - Kensingtonian
Today is once again one of those days where I REALLY don't want to do anything and thankfully I don't have anything that has a pressing deadline. I do have a bunch of stuff to finish tomorrow for work but I'll get it out of the way tomorrow morning, no biggie.
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February 23, 2012 4:23 PM - dibs
I won't be here for most of tomorrow. I'm headed to PA early in the morning and then to Bucks to pick up a car
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February 23, 2012 4:27 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Enjoy, DIBS, too bad the weather forecast isn't as lovely as today.
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February 23, 2012 4:27 PM - dibs
Protestors at the AAPL meeting on 'global living wages." I doubt they actually know what that really means and what's a good living wage in one country vs, the next. Do they protest wage differentials between silicon valley and tennessee???
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February 23, 2012 4:30 PM - dibs
Rain tomorrow morning down there but 63 in the afternoon. weekend windy and cooler, high 40s
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February 23, 2012 4:34 PM - Deleted
this weather is nice but it's annoying weather to dress properly.
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February 23, 2012 4:35 PM - dibs
Ain't that the truth, dh. I bet you're worried that some of your lighter Spring outfits might make you look fat.
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February 23, 2012 4:39 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
My stomach is a little queasy. Nothing a glass of wine won't fix, though. : P
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February 23, 2012 4:39 PM - Deleted
indeed - i haven't toned up my tookus for the spring yet,
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February 23, 2012 4:40 PM - dibs
LOL...some newbies in Carroll Gardens annoyed with the smell of fresh roasted coffee...

http://pardonmeforasking.blogspot.com/2012/02/smell-of-roasting-coffee-just-part-of.html
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February 23, 2012 4:41 PM - dibs
well, don't over exercise or you'll lose your libido like lech has managed to do
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February 23, 2012 4:56 PM - Deleted
the smell of roasting coffee is amazing. used to love walking by blue bottle in the morning on way to train. heaven.
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February 23, 2012 5:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
who doesnt like the smell of coffee roasting? damn those people will complain about anything.

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 5:20 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
you know what also smells bad? their baby's asses that they have no problems changing in public places.

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 5:25 PM - jessibaby
Good thing your dog's shit smells like roses
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February 23, 2012 5:49 PM - Deleted
rob wouldn't know - he pays some moonface $$$$ to pick up his dog's doo doo
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February 23, 2012 6:44 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
it's the only thing moonfaces are good for really... hahahah jk. (actually out of all of his dog walkers that i've met, i wouldn't consider any of them moonface propers..) moonfaces dont generally take dog walking jobs.

also dog poop in the open air isnt really smelly. baby shit INDOORS however IS narsty smelly. you know it's true. im not a baby hater or anything (i used to be one) but when they shit it's disgusting, and it's even more disgusting when they are changed indoors within noses of people who dont want to be around that. dont take your baby out if you know it's gonna shit in the middle of Macy's (not that i go to Macy's, just giving an example)



*rob*

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February 23, 2012 6:46 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i mean "i used to be a baby", not i used to be a baby hater.

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 7:05 PM - Donatella
I decided that I was going to go for it here. In the handshaking department. With the splint off, and all the therapy I am now supposed to be "using" my hand. So I decided not to hesitate to shake hands (or do the demi shake which I was doing with the splint). I was doing fine until this burly guy gave me a manly handshake and I saw stars.

When is this freaking hand going to be back to even semi-normal?
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February 23, 2012 7:11 PM - rf
Back from running errands for elderly. Have to go back to LI tomorrow--stupid pharmacy!

Welcome slope4eva! How old are/is your kid(s)? I have a sophomore daughter at Brooklyn Tech. Very glad we are done with NYC school choice!
February 23, 2012 7:15 PM - jessibaby
Open air dog poop stinks. Walking behind a dog that's dropping a deuce is totally dusgusting. And doggie skid marks on the pavement are not attractive. People depositing a hot, plastic bag full of turd are not making the world a better place.
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February 23, 2012 7:17 PM - jessibaby
Is he fwiendly?
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February 23, 2012 7:19 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i always see no.

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 7:21 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
you are insane if you think dog poomist is worse or just as bad as baby poomist. there is NO comparison. maybe ill walk into a store one day and let my dog shit in a diaper and then change it in the middle of aisles. luckily, most dog owners are civilized.

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 7:22 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
People depositing a hot, plastic bag full of turd are not making the world a better place.

but a ginormous diaper is? at least my dog isnt a tax leech. cant say the same for most babies.


*rob*

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February 23, 2012 7:29 PM - jessibaby
People don't tend to throw out diapers in trash cans on public streets. Nor do they walk down the street yapping on a cellphone and casually toting a little bag of doggie poo poo.
February 23, 2012 7:31 PM - Deleted
Yeah. Your dog is a job creator. And he's a pit so I'm sure he can be trained easily to attack poor people. Yet another viable republican candidate.
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February 23, 2012 7:39 PM - MontroseMorris
Hi people, greetings from Troy. Looking for a home again. Saw a great fixer upper that we really like. What to do, what to do. We'll be back tomorrow, didn't want to drive up, look at houses all day (saw 5) and then go back to NYC. I'd probably fall asleep somewhere around Harriman, and I'd be driving. Not good.

In answer to the burning questions of this morning, Dave is right. (Don't ever quote me on that.) Those houses (by Langston and Dahlander) are indeed on Stuy near Jefferson. They look like ones in the Slope because the same duo did a bunch there too, as well as elsewhere. Dog-leg stoop, M4L and DH, the kind that go up to a landing, and then turn.

Will try to post again later.
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February 23, 2012 7:52 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
ANY dog can be trained to attack poor people. the only people my dogs ever actually attacked was me. he's not vicious. the nasty little rat dogs in soho and the gay ass labradoodles and ubiquitous puggles in park slope are actually the vicious ones. there are actually a lot of pitbulls in my neighborhood. other than the one next door to me they are all very well trained and behaved.

quote:
People don't tend to throw out diapers in trash cans on public streets.

oh i know, when i lived on the LES and in Harlem they preferred throwing them down the airshafts :-/

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 7:59 PM - jessibaby
Yeah, Rob, but when a pit bull is "off" it's much worse than other wacko dogs. I told you about my friend with two pits: one was the sweetest dog I'd ever met and the other, when you would bounce a ball against the wall, instead of waiting for it to bounce back, this pit would follow the ball and bash his head into the wall.
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February 23, 2012 8:13 PM - petebklyn
nope, not stuyvesant. google street view doesn't match this pic for stuyvesant. I see the bunch of doglegged stoops but doesn't match the picture above. So - you'll sleep better knowing dibs is wrong as usual.
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February 23, 2012 8:20 PM - petebklyn
you can train any dog to be vicious but pits are bred to be vicious and have to be trained to be nice. Nurture vs. nature. dog owners on the other hand all have a screw loose.
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February 23, 2012 8:48 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
but pits are bred to be vicious

you're a moron. read the real history of pitbulls. they were NEVER bred to be vicious originally. the dog on the little rascals (that old show) was a pitbull. they have a natural affinity toward children. they were only bred to be vicious recently in the last 20 years. and the most vicious ones were bred the most and abused the most from birth til death. sorry, i didnt mean to call you a moron, but youre just spreading and believing totally ignorant information about the breed. it's not their fault idiots decided that they would be the nasty breed du jour for fighting and other things. other breeds were in the same predicament years before them; dobermins, german shephards, etc. overbreed and abuse poodles from birth to death and you will get the EXACT same outcome (in those poodles abused and trained to fight from birth to death). overall most dogs temperments are very similar across breeds. claiming that pitbulls are genetically predispositioned to attack, fight, and harm is as ignorant as claiming similar things about humans when it comes to race and ethnicity. in some ways they can be a little more aggressive when it comes to other dogs, they seem to identify more as pack animals with humans than other dogs. pibulls who viciously attack humans, im sorry, were just flat out abused at one point. there are have been multiple studies of this. read The Lost Dogs, the autobiography of the whole michael vick dog fighting fiasco, it's a quick good read about what the real deal is.

that said, if i ever do get a dog again, it most likely will not be a pitbull lol. too many clueless people make judgements. i didnt consciously choose a pitbull anyway, it just sorta happened that i wound up with him and im glad i did as he's saved my life (im being a tad dramatic there) in many ways.

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 8:53 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
the other, when you would bounce a ball against the wall, instead of waiting for it to bounce back, this pit would follow the ball and bash his head into the wall.

sounds like that pitbull had babesia. yes it's a real condition for dogs, look it up. sometimes they will chew on metal food bowls until their teeth fall out. it's a blood condition inherited from serious overbreeding, poor health due to perhaps steroids or lack of nutrition, and other factors.

*rob*
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February 23, 2012 8:55 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
(oh yeah and one of my favorite things to think to myself when PEOPLE annoy the hell out of me or are doing something completely stupid is to just shake my head and assume they have some human version of babesia

*rob*
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February 23, 2012 9:00 PM - petebklyn
besides pitbulls are ugly as sin. ugly no-neck monsters.
February 23, 2012 9:00 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
dog owners on the other hand all have a screw loose.

agreeance on that. i dont consider myself "owning" my dog. i dont "own" him. he can walk out the door any time he wants to if he chooses. i pay for his room and board, food, and dog walking. im a sucker. i know that. he knows that. if he ever heard me introduce him to someone saying "this is my dog" he would give me a bitch, please look. i consider him a good friend who just happens to be a couch surfer that you can't get rid of. he appreciates that.

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 9:03 PM - etson
All sound like excuses as to why they're more dangerous rather than a discussion of whether they are. Don't care why if the result is the same.


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February 23, 2012 9:04 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
besides pitbulls are ugly as sin. ugly no-neck monsters.

those are American Pitbulls, not staffordshire terriers. (american pitbulls can be very cute tho, in an only a mother can love that face kinda way).
why am i having this discussion with someone who tears down missing dog and children flyers again!?!?


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February 23, 2012 9:07 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
All sound like excuses as to why they're more dangerous rather than a discussion of whether they are. Don't care why if the result is the same.

you're sounding like a NYPD officer there...

*rob*
February 23, 2012 9:08 PM - lechacal
Pit bulls are horrid and should be eradicated.
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February 23, 2012 9:08 PM - etson
No shame in that. I think the NYPD does an awesome job on the whole.
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February 23, 2012 9:12 PM - lechacal
If you live in the city and have a dog there are two possibilities:

1. Your dog is a torpid bag of suck

2. You have a real dog and it is animal cruelty for you to have it in the city

Oh wait I guess a third possibility:

3. You have a kick dog, which is not really a dog at all but some kind of domesticated furry rat
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February 23, 2012 9:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i have nothing against the NYPD (except when my bag was searched THREE times (on different days) at the 125th street station in manhattan going to work) in the mid 2000's while thousands of other people were let go thru the turnstyles. oh and the time a ticket was sent to my grandparent's apartment address in jersey for me supposedly jumping a turnstyle which i did NOT do. im not a cop hater in general, i understand their purpose, and the cops in NYC i think do a better job than most major cities. anyway, that's not even the point of this discussion. im actually surprised at you etson that youre a breedist.

*rob*

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February 23, 2012 9:21 PM - petebklyn
staffordshire terriers? is that what gay people call their pitbulls trying to sound highfalutin?
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February 23, 2012 9:22 PM - etson
Quite cagey around dogs in general if that's any consolation, although some can be delightful.
I dislike the ones that can bite the hardest, so would probably say the same thing about a Rottweiler or a Dobermann.
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February 23, 2012 9:22 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
2. You have a real dog and it is animal cruelty for you to have it in the city

i know for a fact my dog would be better off if i lived in the country with a giant yard and stuff. DUH. but dogs left alone in yards in quiet areas can also suffer in some ways, especially if they are tied up, or limited within a fenced in area. in their brains all they focus on is what is BEYOND that fence and it can drive them insane. there's lots of positive external stimuli for dogs in the city and i dont consider it abuse (or maybe im in denial like parents who send their kids to local public schools in this city (not talking about the GREAT public schools btw duh those kids get the best of both worlds) who think having 10 minute access to museums and other cultural shit (i mean really how often do people use that anyway?) justifies it? but yes, my dog would be better off in the country, but what can i do about it? he was an urban dog since birth anyway, he'd probably run screaming from a deer like i would a peacock anyway.

my dog walker service has weekend retreats upstate for dogs, it's 44 dollars a night, you have to provide the food and stuff, it's 2 days and nights. i thought about splurging and letting my dog go, but my dog is on the list of "doesnt play well with others" cuz when i first moved to park slope my roommate recommend that he go to full time doggy daycare and he did it for a day but didnt make it (thank god) a 30 minute dog walker walk in the middle of the day is good enough. i think my roommate was just scared when i arrived on moving day with my dog and he never even met the dog and i was kinda vague about what kind of dog he was. but my roommate had a dog and they got along great, and in the last 3 1/2 years my dog has slept in HIS bed almost every night! so it worked out. sometimes it's best not to tell people ahead of time you have a pitbull. best to let them meet the dog first, otherwise they will judge.



*rob*

Edited at February 23, 2012 9:22 PM
February 23, 2012 9:23 PM - etson
Staffordshire terriers have different shaped faces (longer, rounder ended) than pitbulls.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:23 PM
February 23, 2012 9:23 PM - petebklyn
the ones that shed are the worst. or is it the ones that drool. or can't keep their mouths closed and have to see that
tongue hanging out.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:23 PM
February 23, 2012 9:24 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Quite cagey around dogs in general

it's not good to be that way around dogs, they sense it and will react accordingly. my dog bit a friend of mine in her ass once when she first met him, but an EVIL bite, but a friendly nip cuz she WAS being cagey around him. it didnt break skin, but it put a hole in her jeans. but that wasn't his fault. (oh jeez now i DO sound like a park slope parent)

Edited at February 23, 2012 9:24 PM
February 23, 2012 9:26 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
also this was when i FIRST got him and he was a puppy and i was bringing him into bodegas and shit and everywhere (so moonface of me doing that and totally entitled..) a bodega cat totally held it's own on his face one day when she was loitering in the pet food area and came out of no where, my dog barked at her or him, and it tooks it's claw and clawed my dog in the face and he retreated. dont fuck with bodega cats

*rob*

February 23, 2012 9:27 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
the ones that shed are the worst. or is it the ones that drool. or can't keep their mouths closed and have to see that
tongue hanging out.

that's awful the things you save about dave :(

*rob*

Edited at February 23, 2012 9:27 PM
February 23, 2012 9:28 PM - petebklyn
weekend retreats for dogs? you're sh*tting me. what do they do -- yoga and meditation for dogs and then feed them barley sprouts?
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:28 PM
February 23, 2012 9:28 PM - etson
"it's not good to be that way around dogs, they sense it and will react accordingly."

Think it was someone telling me stuff that when I was young that made me terrified of them for a few years. that and some friends who were attacked. Literally would cross the street to avoid dogs for a while .
I am not at all like that now but like I said still a bit cagey and don't see why I should have to adjust behavior because someone decides to keep an animal.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:28 PM
February 23, 2012 9:31 PM - etson
Like you if peacocks had big mouths and sharp teeth.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:31 PM
February 23, 2012 9:31 PM - petebklyn
those dogs just want to lick you and then hump your foot, etson.


Edited at February 23, 2012 9:31 PM
February 23, 2012 9:33 PM - petebklyn
ha, I forgot to tell you ..the other day while in florida we were walking thru this nice neighborhood and there was a peacock by the doorway of this house. like freerange...I'm sure it lived there but was not tethered or anything.

Edited at February 23, 2012 9:33 PM
February 23, 2012 9:36 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
weekend retreats for dogs? you're sh*tting me. what do they do -- yoga and meditation for dogs and then feed them barley sprouts?

probably. well no, it's more just a weekend to let them run around in the countryside. i doubt they do the yoga and barley sprouts. (you have to provide your own food for your dog because it cuts down on stomach indigestion or something). i dont know, they are a great great dog walking service, licenesed, bonded, etc. if anyone ever needs a dog walker i highly recommend them. it's not some scrub putting up flyers up on poles and it's not the fancy ass yuppie type dog walking services either. very reasonable rates as well. my dog gets a single walk (meaning 30 minutes for just him) and not one of those dog walks where it's someone walking like 5 random dogs that dont know each other at once (that's low rent dog walking). but he wasnt able to do that either, it would be cheaper, and id be fine with it but they deemed his personality as not fit with other dogs. on his first group dog walk he bit some other dog on the walk named oscar in the neighborhood. (im sure oscar was a snob anyway). it's like 12-14 dollars i think per walk.

*rob*
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:36 PM
February 23, 2012 9:38 PM - Donatella
I babysat for a neighborhood kid whose parents had two Dobermans.

"It's all right Kim and Tara, it's all right", the mother would say as I came to the door and these things were bareing their teeth and barking and growling and snarling like they wanted to dismember me. I hated those f@#kers.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:38 PM
February 23, 2012 9:40 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
if peacocks had big mouths and sharp teeth.

um, they do. besides im not even afraid of them anymore. i posted a picture of a peacock at my desk at work and left it there for like a year and gradually was less and less afraid. (i can only imagine why i had a picture of a peacock at my desk instead of the obligatory crotchfruit and spouse, but whatever). i havent encountered one yet in real life, but i dont think id be afraid of it anymore than etson being a little iffy around dogs kinda thing. i wouldnt run outta the room screaming like they do on the maury povich shows when people are afraid of pickles and shit.

here is a video of a woman deathly afraid of mustard!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q-SQtpjuYM

i aint that bad

Edited at February 23, 2012 9:40 PM
February 23, 2012 9:42 PM - etson
$260 - $300/mo on dog walks.
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:42 PM
February 23, 2012 9:44 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
"It's all right Kim and Tara, it's all right", the mother would say as I came to the door and these things were bareing their teeth and barking and growling and snarling like they wanted to dismember me. I hated those f@#kers.

kim and tara? ugh. are they MAX AND SAM's twin set of sisters? :-/
i'd be flashing my teeth too if i was a dog and someone named me stupid ass human names... as least Kim and Tara are kinda trailer park stripper-ey names, unless MAX and SAM which are totally brooklyn-BASED yuppie children names
*rob*

Edited at February 23, 2012 9:44 PM
February 23, 2012 9:49 PM - petebklyn
I can't believe I've eaten most of that box of hot cross buns already today. I sure do like lent.

I was skimming job ads on craigslist (okay , I admit I'm a bit bored tonight) and saw one for benson. some
hat place -goorin brothers looking for person in park slope. Perfect for him. he loves hats, right?
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:49 PM
February 23, 2012 9:51 PM - petebklyn
add up the dog walks, and food, and flea powder and vets/dentist bills and he'd have his student loan paid off, downpayment on classic 6 on PPWest and substantial 401k portfolio. well, maybe if he gave up cigs too
Edited at February 23, 2012 9:51 PM
February 23, 2012 9:55 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
$260 - $300/mo on dog walks.

i KNEW someone would do the math. do you crunch the numbers for kids in daycare too? i mean, really what am i supposed to do? let my dog stew in the apartment all day with a full bladder? he's an senior dog, and even if he wasnt a senior dog, i'd still do it. should i quit my job and stay at home with him all day? it's one of those annoying bills in life you just gotta suck up. like gas and electricity. do people bat an eye at that? and yeah no when i first got him i did not think about this issue, or vet bills, etc. i mean from here on out i will, but i have him now and im not going to NOT pay for his dog walks cuz it's prohibitive financially. the bastard gets cheap ass dog food anyway, Alpo most of the time (i splurge sometimes with good dog food) the vet said he is in perfect condition for a dog his age so his diet is not a problem and it's mega cheap. gourmet organic dog food is totally a rip off. (he does get special treats loaded with vitamins and scraps of good food from my roommate all the time so it makes up for it).

200 something dollars a month for a dog walker doesnt sound as absurd to me as 15 dollar a scoop moonface ice cream.

*rob*

Edited at February 23, 2012 9:55 PM
February 23, 2012 10:00 PM - etson
Yes, crunch numbers for a living. Also very well aware of how much various aspects of raising kids cost even though I don't have any at this point.
February 23, 2012 10:02 PM - etson
And I don't manage/ watch my own personal expenses very tightly but also don't complain much on the internet about the cost of things & being broke.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:02 PM
February 23, 2012 10:03 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
add up the dog walks, and food, and flea powder and vets/dentist bills and he'd have his student loan paid off, downpayment on classic 6 on PPWest and substantial 401k portfolio. well, maybe if he gave up cigs too

oh shut up. i am willing to sacrifice for the few things i enjoy in life... smoking, having a happy dog, and not having narsty teefs. people are so judgemental about how others spend their monies these days. ive been so amazingly good with paying back my student loans lately, im never late with rent and bills, and im not swimming in debt. how is that a problem or anyone elses concern!? i have no desire to spend my money on moonfacey shit, no desire to pack away money into a retirement account that i may or may not EVER see, and no desire to travel when everywhere in the UNIVERSE is just a click or a touch away for free.

like the old going says, mo' money, mo' problems. that lame ass insider thread on brownstoner where they detail the interiors of uber rich fucks who get their jollies on other people salivating over the inside of their "homes" is big enough a turnoff for me to be like ew, i would NEVER wanna be like them (or the people that do the salivating) gross. dont people have any pride or shame anymore?

*rob*

Edited at February 23, 2012 10:03 PM
February 23, 2012 10:06 PM - petebklyn
that dog probably does enough salivating for all of us. how often do you have to wipe up that stuff from the beanbag chair?
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:06 PM
February 23, 2012 10:09 PM - etson
"people are so judgemental about how others spend their monies these days."

"doesnt sound as absurd to me as 15 dollar a scoop moonface ice cream."
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:09 PM
February 23, 2012 10:10 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
also don't complain much on the internet about the cost of things & being broke.

duly noted. i dont realize that i do that as often as i do and will try to stop that. i always thought i sorta kinda provided a glimpse into the life of how the other half lived. too much on the internet, at least with things like real estate, architecture, design, etc is so focused on the high end of shit. fuck that. why cant someone start an interior design blog that focuses on people who live in the projects and stuff. id bet a lot of people would be shocked. not everyone in the projects lives in squalor and maybe they'd even get some design ideas. same with food, drink, etc etc. the internet these days is too focused on the upper end. poor people have internet too you know! except what happens is we get banned and shit from sites as if the internet is some gated communited. bitch, please.


*rob*

Edited at February 23, 2012 10:10 PM
February 23, 2012 10:12 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
that dog probably does enough salivating for all of us. how often do you have to wipe up that stuff from the beanbag chair?

that last pic was NOT my dog.

he actually doesnt drool much except when my roommate's boyfriend gives him beer. yes my dog drinks a little beer here and there. DEAL! he <3's it.

i havent owned a beanbag in years.


okay gotta run, now!!!


*rob*

Edited at February 23, 2012 10:12 PM
February 23, 2012 10:13 PM - etson
I do kind of agree with you re design & food blogs focusing on super expensive stuff too much.
Think the idea / challenge for the rest of us is to try to replicate the aspects we like much more cheaply, kind of use them as an ideal type.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:13 PM
February 23, 2012 10:18 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Think the idea / challenge for the rest of us is to try to replicate the aspects we like much more cheaply, kind of use them as an ideal type.

or stuff to barf on. i do love hyper rich spaces. can't stand wanna be rich residences which is what brooklyn is becoming these days. okay im really going to hop in the tub soon, but seriously, pieces like that really do make me want to barf. especially the kids rooms. wtf? it must feel SO nice to move into a neighborhood that is mostly working and middle class and stomp your moonface head down like Bonk, in Bonk's Adventure and declare once and for all, THIS NEIGHORHOOD IS OURS NOW!! SCREW YOU GHETTO PEOPLE GO MOVE blah blah blah. fuck them. i hope they all have panic rooms, cuz that day is coming.


*rob*

Edited at February 23, 2012 10:18 PM
February 23, 2012 10:19 PM - petebklyn
you see this article from bloomberg.com on toronto real-estate/bubble?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-13/toronto-bubble-risk-topping-new-york-in-market-for-condominiums-mortgages.html

I sent it to my friend who lives on King st. -- who has a contract on a condo in a yet to be built condo behind him downtown.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:19 PM
February 23, 2012 10:36 PM - etson
There is definitely a bubble up here. Canada real estate prices are at their highest premium ever to US (something like 1/3 higher on average). Toronto is second most extreme after Vancouver for bubbliness. High commodities prices, Chinese money and major immigration in general are the largest drivers.
Lots of poorly constructed new condos here. The one I can see from my window has had big problems with falling glass. There are some very pretty residential areas as well but of course they are commanding larger and larger premiums vs all the shit that is being thrown up now.
I think that some of the further out suburbs are still OK value (some nice parts of Mississauga and a very nice town called Oakville just beyond). Toronto itself is almost all bad value, with the exception that some of the areas just east of the downtown core (Riverdale, Leslieville) are good areas and not bad for value.

OK, off to bed. Nite all.
Edited at February 23, 2012 10:36 PM
February 23, 2012 10:49 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Canada is retarded. so of course their real estate is gonna reflect. ever see HGTV? it's 95% canadian shit but they never mention it's in canada. absurd.


*rob*

Edited at February 23, 2012 10:49 PM