Thursday Open Thread
February 16, 2012 7:20 AM - CGar

324 comments
February 16, 2012 8:06 AM - dibs
The early bird catches the worm.


Heeelllloooooooo, doesn't anyone get up to go to work anymore?????
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#1
February 16, 2012 8:17 AM - Arkady
Work?
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#2
February 16, 2012 8:19 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Who the hell wants worms? : P
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#3
February 16, 2012 8:21 AM - dibs
Think of it as a euphemism, Cobble.
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#4
February 16, 2012 8:27 AM - dibs
Busy here...ton of economic data out at 8:30
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#5
February 16, 2012 8:28 AM - BoerumHillScott
I've been doing way too much work latey.

(posting from my desk in the office)
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#6
February 16, 2012 8:30 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM, BHS.
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#7
February 16, 2012 8:31 AM - dibs
Jobless numbers much better than expected. Need to see if these will reverse yesterday's selloff in the market, which was a red flag technically.

Housing starts were also better. These two numbers go hand-in-hand as the construction industry and periferral industry is the largest employer
Edited at February 16, 2012 8:35 AM
#8
February 16, 2012 8:36 AM - BoerumHillScott
Hi everyone, been doing some lurking lately but have not really had the time or energy to participate.
We need to find another excuse to get together and drink soon.
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#9
February 16, 2012 8:38 AM - dibs
"We need to find another excuse to get together and drink soon."

We will have one very shortly.
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#10
February 16, 2012 8:41 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Since when does one need an excuse to drink?
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#11
February 16, 2012 8:44 AM - etson
Don't know how to embed this, but it's perfect for the OT. Better than a cat pic.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/9086167/Pictures-of-the-day-16-February-2012.html?image=5

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#12
February 16, 2012 8:45 AM - dibs
Six, he's a Democrat. His principles are all screwed up and misguided.
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#13
February 16, 2012 9:03 AM - dibs
WOW, 7 consecutive wins for the Knicks. I'm not much of a basketball fan but this is impressive and has moved MSG stock!!!
#14
February 16, 2012 9:03 AM - Arkady
Yeah, where's M4L? I expected to see him dancing here last night after the game.
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#15
February 16, 2012 9:15 AM - lechacal
On the train this morning some lady who reeked of Turkish delight sat down next to me. And I mean reeked, like I almost got up and moved to a different seat. Then she starts listening to her iPod, and looks up at me apologetically - "can you hear this"? So you have no idea that your perfume is raping my nose but you're worried that I might hear you listen to yonni?
#16
February 16, 2012 9:16 AM - More4Less
Arkady, I don't get that excited anymore. I now expect excellence every game - ie this winning is now expected.
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#17
February 16, 2012 9:23 AM - dibs
What's Turkish delight??? I'm assuming it's like patchouli, which is really awful, and anything coconutty
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#18
February 16, 2012 9:29 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
That's some crazy looking animal, etson!

I like the guy a few frames later, stretching at the pole. He started to exercise when he retired at 60!

DIBS, are you exercising?
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#19
February 16, 2012 9:29 AM - BoerumHillScott
My nose was not raped on the subway this morning.
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#20
February 16, 2012 9:31 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
My nose perked up when I smelled the coffee this morning.

Today I see my accountant. I'm trying not to panic!!!
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#21
February 16, 2012 9:35 AM - dibs
Not yet, cobble. No need to rush into things. but i have slept with a guy who flew back from Dalian to beijing to meet me.
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#22
February 16, 2012 9:35 AM - etson
Thought the dog with the doughnut on its head two frames before was pretty cool as well. Telegraph has some good lighter photos / stories.

Turkish delight is a fragrant gelatinous candy. One of my mom's favorites:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Turkish_Delight.JPG


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#23
February 16, 2012 9:37 AM - CGar
My nose was raped on the subway by someone whose clothes were doused with mothballs.
#24
February 16, 2012 9:39 AM - Arkady
Turkish Delight is akin to salt water taffy.
M4L - You're a decadent, old jade!
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#25
February 16, 2012 9:41 AM - More4Less
will be getting decent tax refund. unfortunately, wife is spending it all via adding more items to the renovation and upgrade materials. at least she last night admitted she can hold the proj mgr (me) to keep renov budget same despite her jacking everything up
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#26
February 16, 2012 9:42 AM - etson
No nose rape for me. Was one funny thing though:
Guy wearing a long sock underneath his hat to keep his ears warm. His hat did not have ear flaps, so he had a sock under it with one end of the sock covering each ear. Otherwise normal / not crazy looking, early 30's.

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#27
February 16, 2012 9:42 AM - dibs
I'll be paying taxes this year.
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#28
February 16, 2012 9:43 AM - dibs
what's the temp up there, etson. it's pretty warm here now yet some Asian eye candy got on the E train with a fur bomber hat and gloves this morning.
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#29
February 16, 2012 9:44 AM - More4Less
does clothing in cedar-lined closet have some sort of smell to it??? DIBS, could you repost that cedar panel URL you posted last time? the contractors are marching thru the demo super fast and I now have to scramble quick to pick doors, closet system, cedar panels etc
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#30
February 16, 2012 9:46 AM - Slopefarm
It's one thing to water down the meaning of a murky latinate adjective like disingenuous, but rape? Really, tough guy? Your nose was raped by the smell of candy?

Turkish delight, of course, figured heavily in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. It is how the ice queen got Edward to betray his siblings. The joke was that Turkish delight is somewhat reviled as candy goes, so Edward really sold out cheap.
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#31
February 16, 2012 9:47 AM - etson
Yeah, it's not that cold here either, probably low-mid 30's. Been a warm winter on the whole - one or two cold weeks but very little snow.
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#32
February 16, 2012 9:48 AM - Slopefarm
Oh, for fuck's sake. OK, take 2:

It's one thing to water down the meaning of a murky latinate adjective like disingenuous, but rape? Really, Mr. tough guy? Your nose was raped by the smell of candy?

[Not bothering to retype my exigesis on the role of Turkish delight in The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe. Wouldn't hurt y'all to read a book once in a while.]
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#33
February 16, 2012 9:52 AM - etson
"It's one thing to water down the meaning of a murky latinate adjective like disingenuous, but rape?"

You're at least 5-10 years late with this complaint (not specific to lech, but to the vernacular in general)
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#34
February 16, 2012 9:53 AM - dibs
m4l...can't remember where I looked it up...either Amazon or HD...justs search cedar lining closet. Maybe it was just google. Either way, HD sells it in strips to put up as a panel. The whole closet doesn't need to be lined but its cheap
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#35
February 16, 2012 9:55 AM - etson
Not in my current job, and never heard it related to smells before, but frequently used to describe losing money / perception of being underpaid / being exploited or tricked etc
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#36
February 16, 2012 9:55 AM - More4Less
DIBS, thanks. will look it up. think that needs to be put up before the closet system
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#37
February 16, 2012 9:56 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I love it when Slopey rants! You tell 'em, Slopey!
#38
February 16, 2012 9:57 AM - dibs
Depends how the closet system is configured.
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#39
February 16, 2012 9:59 AM - More4Less
don't want linsanity to overshadow hockey team so:
Let's Go Rangers!!
Let's Go Rangers!!
Let's Go Rangers!!
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#40
February 16, 2012 10:00 AM - Slopefarm
back to Linsanity, for a sec. I was quite happy to see 13 assists in 26 minutes. Bodes well for the long term. Lin doesn't need to score 25 a game -- he needs to keep the ball moving and score 25 when the other options are shut down.

Dibs -- MSG was not the best investment followng start fo linsanity. The best play would have been to invest in whoever manufactures overnight the counterfeit Knick jerseys for sale on Canal Street.
#41
February 16, 2012 10:03 AM - Arkady
Assaulted senses.
Had nose & noise pollution.
View's not good enough.
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#42
February 16, 2012 10:03 AM - Arkady
dibs - Did you see my post last night? Chinese do use msg - Ve T'Sin.
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#43
February 16, 2012 10:05 AM - jessibaby
Use it in Thailand, too. Referred to as "flavor"
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#44
February 16, 2012 10:05 AM - dibs
"Dibs -- MSG was not the best investment followng start fo linsanity. The best play would have been to invest in whoever manufactures overnight the counterfeit Knick jerseys for sale on Canal Street."

And just who is that Slopey??? And where do they trade???? THe best investment would have been MSG OPTIONS!!!!!!
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#45
February 16, 2012 10:06 AM - Slopefarm
A pleasant commute
befouled by air borne toxins
damned Turkish delight
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#46
February 16, 2012 10:09 AM - Arkady
I think it's called Turkish Delight because it's a variation on Halvah.
#47
February 16, 2012 10:12 AM - Slopefarm
Not so sure, arkady. Halvah is sesame seeds ground to a paste, mixed with sugar or honey I believe, and sometimes flavored with chocolate. TD is more of a gooey gel candy.

And if the smell of this horrid sugary treat fails to wring a confession from jackal, then bring in . . . . the COMFY CHAIR!!!

[I bet you weren't expecting the Spanish Inquisition.]
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#48
February 16, 2012 10:12 AM - rf
Just to change the subject...
#49
February 16, 2012 10:17 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"bring in . . . . the COMFY CHAIR!!!"

GASP!!! Not the COMFY CHAIR!!!
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#50
February 16, 2012 10:19 AM - Arkady
I sympathize w/ Lech. I once drove to the south of France in a convertible & the appraoch to Nougat had you smelling that sugar for about 20 miles approaching town. You could get contact acne or diabetes from it.
#51
February 16, 2012 10:19 AM - rf
You're not talking about the Big Comfy Couch, are you?
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#52
February 16, 2012 10:21 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I've driven hundred's of miles though West Texas behind cattle trucks that you can't yet see, but know they are there...now THAT is a smell! : P
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#53
February 16, 2012 10:22 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
MP and the Comfy Chair...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnS49c9KZw8
Edited at February 16, 2012 10:22 AM
#54
February 16, 2012 10:30 AM - Legion
I see we have our own version of the "Disgusting English Candy Drill"
going on in the OT today.

From Gravity's Rainbow

If you want to laugh, read on, if not just skip it:

"He was my good health," she often says. "Since he passed away I've had to become all but an outright witch, in pure self-defense." From the kitchen comes the smell of limes freshly cut and squeezed. Darlene's in and out of the room, looking for different botanicals, asking where the cheesecloth's got to, "Tyrone help me just reach down that---no next to it, the tall jar, thank you love"---back into the kitchen in a creak of starch, a flash of pink. "I'm the only one with a memory around here," Mrs. Quoad sighs. "We help each other, you see." She brings out from behind its cretonne camouflage a great bowl of candies. "Now," beaming at Slothrop. "Here: wine jellies. They're prewar."

"Now I remember you---the one with the graft at the Ministry of Supply!" but he knows, from last time, that no gallantry can help him now. After that visit he wrote home to Nalline: "The English are kind of weird when it comes to the way things taste, Mom. They aren't like us. It might be the climate. They go for things we would never dream of. Sometimes it is enough to turn your stomach, boy. The other day I had had one of these things they call 'wine jellies.' That's their idea of candy, Mom! Figure out a way to feed some to that Hitler 'n' I betcha the war'd be over tomorrow!" Now once again he finds himself checking out these ruddy gelatin objects, nodding, he hopes amiably, at Mrs. Quoad. They have the names of different wines written on them in bas-relief.

"Just a touch of menthol too," Mrs. Quoad popping one into her mouth. "Delicious."

Slothrop finally chooses one that says Lafitte Rothschild and stuffs it on into his kisser. "Oh yeah. Yeah. Mmm. It's great."

"If you really want something peculiar try the Bernkastler Doktor. Oh! Aren't you the one who brought me those lovely American slimy elm things, maple-tasting with a touch of sassafras---"

"Slippery elm. Jeepers I'm sorry, I ran out yesterday."

Darlene comes in with a steaming pot and three cups on a tray. "What's that?" Slothrop a little quickly, here.

"You don't really want to know, Tyrone."

"Quite right," after the first sip, wishing she'd used more lime juice or something to kill the basic taste, which is ghastly-bitter. These people are really insane. No sugar, natch. He reaches in the candy bowl, comes up with a black, ribbed licorice drop. It looks safe. But just as he's biting in, Darlene gives him, and it, a peculiar look, great timing this girl, sez, "Oh, I thought we got rid of all those---" a blithe, Gilbert & Sullivan ingenue's thewse---"years ago," at which point Slothrop is encountering this dribbling liquid center, which tastes like mayonnaise and orange peels.

"You've taken the last of my Marmalade Surprises!" cries Mrs. Quoad, having now with conjuror's speed produced an egg-shaped confection of pastel green, studded all over with lavender nonpareils. "Just for that I shan't let you have any of these marvelous rhubarb creams." Into her mouth it goes, the whole thing.

"Serves me right," Slothrop, wondering just what he means by this, sipping herb tea to remove the taste of the mayonnaise candy---oops but that's a mistake, right, here's his mouth filling once again with horrible alkaloid desolation, all the way back to the soft palate where it digs in. Darlene, pure Nightingale compassion, is handing him a hard red candy, molded like a stylized raspberry... mm, which oddly enough even tastes like a raspberry, though it can't begin to take away that bitterness. Impatiently, he bites into it, and in the act knows, fucking idiot, he's been had once more, there comes pouring out onto his tongue the most godawful crystalline concentration of Jeez it must be pure nitric acid, "Oh mercy that's really sour," hardly able to get the words out he's so puckered up, exactly the sort of thing Hop Harrigan used to pull to get Tank Tinker to quit playing his ocarina, a shabby trick then and twice as reprehensible coming from an old lady who's supposed to be one of our Allies, shit he can't even see it's up his nose and whatever it is won't dissolve, just goes on torturing his shriveling tongue and crunches like ground glass among his molars. Mrs. Quoad is meantime busy savoring, bite by dainty bite, a cherry-quinine petit four. She beams at the young people across the candy bowl. Slothrop, forgetting, reaches again for his tea. There is no graceful way out of this now. Darlene has brought a couple-three more candy jars down off of the shelf, and now he goes plunging, like a journey to the center of some small, hostile planet, into an enormous bonbon chomp through the mantle of chocolate to a strongly eucalyptus-flavored fondant, finally into a core of some very tough grape gum arabic. He fingernails a piece of this out from between his teeth and stares at it for a while. It is purple in color.

"Now you're getting the idea!" Mrs. Quoad waving at him a marbled conglomerate of ginger root, butterscotch, and aniseed, "you see, you also have to enjoy the way it looks. Why are Americans so impulsive?"

"Well," mumbling, "usually we don't get any more complicated than Hershey bars, see...."

"Oh, try this," hollers Darlene, clutching her throat and swaying against him.

"Gosh, it must really be something," doubtfully taking this nastylooking brownish novelty, an exact quarter-scale replica of a Mills-type hand grenade, lever, pin and everything, one of a series of patriotic candies put out before sugar was quite so scarce, also including, he notices, peering into the jar, a .455 Webley cartridge of green and pink striped taffy, a six-ton earthquake bomb of some silver-flecked blue gelatin, and a licorice bazooka.

"Go on then," Darlene actually taking his hand with the candy in it and trying to shove it into his mouth.

"Was just, you know, looking at it, the way Mrs. Quoad suggested."

"And no fair squeezing it, Tyrone."

Under its tamarind glaze, the Mills bomb turns out to be luscious pepsin-flavored nougat, chock-full of tangy candied cubeb berries, and a chewy camphor-gum center. It is unspeakably awful. Slothrop's head begins to reel with camphor fumes, his eyes are running, his tongue's a hopeless holocaust. Cubeb? He used to smoke that stuff. "Poisoned..." he is able to croak.

"Show a little backbone," advises Mrs. Quoad.

"Yes," Darlene through tongue-softened sheets of caramel, "don't you know there's a war on? Here now love, open your mouth."

Through the tears he can't see it too well, but he can hear Mrs. Quoad across the table going "Yum, yum, yum," and Darlene giggling. It is enormous and soft, like a marshmallow, but somehow---unless something is now going seriously wrong with his brain---it tastes like: gin. "Wha's 'is," he inquires thickly.

"A gin marshmallow," sez Mrs. Quoad.

"Awww..."

"Oh that's nothing, have one of these---" his teeth, in some perverse reflex, crunching now through a hard sour gooseberry shell into a wet spurting unpleasantness of, he hopes it's tapioca, little glutinous chunks of something all saturated with powdered cloves.

"More tea?" Darlene suggests. Slothrop is coughing violently, having inhaled some of that clove filling.

"Nasty cough," Mrs. Quoad offering a tin of that least believable of English coughdrops, the Meggezone. "Darlene, the tea is lovely, I can feel my scurvy going away, really I can."

The Meggezone is like being belted in the head with a Swiss Alp. Menthol icicles immediately begin to grow from the roof of Slothrop's mouth. Polar bears seek toenail-holds up the freezing frosty-grape alveolar clusters in his lungs. It hurts his teeth too much to breathe, even through his nose, even, necktie loosened, with his nose down inside the neck of his olive-drab T-shirt. Benzoin vapors seep into his brain. His head floats in a halo of ice.

Even an hour later, the Meggezone still lingers, a mint ghost in the air. Slothrop lies with Darlene, the Disgusting English Candy Drill a thing of the past, his groin now against her warm bottom. The one candy he did not get to taste---one Mrs. Quoad withheld---was the Fire of Paradise, that famous confection of high price and protean taste---"salted plum" to one, "artificial cherry" to another... "sugared violets"... "Worcestershire sauce"... "spiced treacle"... any number of like descriptions, positive, terse---never exceeding two words in length---resembling the descriptions of poison and debilitating gases found in training manuals, "sweet-and-sour eggplant" being perhaps the lengthiest to date. [ . . . ]

;o)
#55
February 16, 2012 10:41 AM - rf
Talk about a mammoth TKOTD!
#56
February 16, 2012 10:44 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Links, legion, links! For cryin' out loud!
#57
February 16, 2012 10:48 AM - dibs
YAY!!!! Just hooked up my printer to my laptop, it works!!!!
#58
February 16, 2012 10:51 AM - CGar
rf, I am very, very confused (which isn't at all unusual for me, I realize).

I logged in at home last night and found 2 emails saying that my Valentine's Day e-cards had been sent to you. One of them allowed me to view the card I sent. No offense, but I didn't send a Valentine's Day card to you (or to anyone, not even my nieces). Did you send it to me and then it bounced back to you??? Did someone send it to you from me???

I'm so confused.
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#59
February 16, 2012 10:54 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ok, off to the accountant. If you don't hear from me late today, it's because I've fallen into a dead faint or gone off to a bar to 'revive' myself! If it's good news, I'll be very chipper this evening!
Edited at February 16, 2012 10:54 AM
#60
February 16, 2012 10:55 AM - CGar
Legion, what cobble said. It's bad enough that you plather on endlessly in your own posts!
#61
February 16, 2012 10:55 AM - Arkady
Good luck, CHiller!!
#62
February 16, 2012 10:57 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Thanks, Arkady! I need it!
Edited at February 16, 2012 10:57 AM
#63
February 16, 2012 10:59 AM - DeLepp
Got my state refund today so I'm done. Next is Aunt's then Coop's.
Edited at February 16, 2012 10:59 AM
#64
February 16, 2012 11:03 AM - jessibaby
Dave, do you have a PA accountant? I need help with something there.
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:03 AM
#65
February 16, 2012 11:03 AM - rf
Cgar, I think it was just sent from a crappy website. No worries! The card that was sent to me was the exact same card I sent to you.
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:03 AM
#66
February 16, 2012 11:05 AM - rf
Meanwhile, Cgar, I don't know if you saw the last post from Rob on yesterday's OT, after he saw half of Survivor. He's mad at us.
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:05 AM
#67
February 16, 2012 11:06 AM - CGar
Rewind, rf. I'm slow and confused. So, YOU sent ME that card as an e-Valentine??? If so, thank you very much, that was sweet (and there was nothing scary in it) . . . though there'll be hell to pay when the eWife catches up with the OT or when the eSIL reports back to her.
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:06 AM
#68
February 16, 2012 11:08 AM - CGar
dave, I agree with your post yesterday about there being no COTDs lately. I've been checking because I'm looking again. There's also very little inventory. Though I found a 2-bedroom in the Heights with a garden that has nice original detail and beautiful renovations that may be good for me and SAM and MAX . . . though it is a bit on the small side. The garden is always a trade-off. Great location too. Will send you the link when I get home later.
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:08 AM
#69
February 16, 2012 11:09 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
fucking stupid dmv, ive been on hold for the last half an hour listening to this annoying recorded voice of some woman with an awful speech impediment plather on and on. who the hell has voice recorded messages of someone who can't even speak correctly!?
all i need to find out is if they are open on monday grrrr presidents day

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 11:09 AM
#70
February 16, 2012 11:09 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
she speaks like barbara walters, but like 10 x worse. this is excruiating

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 11:09 AM
#71
February 16, 2012 11:13 AM - dibs
They won't be open on Monday.

jessi, i do not. Mine is in Albany. Hopefully he'll want to continue when I move to PA (PA state returns are much simpler than NYS)
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:13 AM
#72
February 16, 2012 11:13 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
gah, does anyone know? would dmv be closed on presidents day?

*rob*

#73
February 16, 2012 11:14 AM - Arkady
rob Go to DMV website - it'll show. Start at NYC.gov - & follow links.
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:14 AM
#74
February 16, 2012 11:14 AM - dibs
CGar, i would sacrifice some indoor space for a nice outdoor space.
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:14 AM
#75
February 16, 2012 11:14 AM - Arkady
CG - Corcoran listing in CG - web# 2219406
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:14 AM
#76
February 16, 2012 11:15 AM - rf
Here you go, Rob. You do know how to search don't you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_government_holidays
#77
February 16, 2012 11:15 AM - dibs
All gov't offices and stock market and banks closed Monday
#78
February 16, 2012 11:16 AM - jessibaby
got it, thanks anyway, Dave.
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:16 AM
#79
February 16, 2012 11:16 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
ah. miss campbell (lol) just told me they are closed

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 11:16 AM
#80
February 16, 2012 11:21 AM - MontroseMorris
CGar. You called?
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:21 AM
#81
February 16, 2012 11:22 AM - Donatella
Turkish delight, aka, lokum smells? An ex-boyfriend had biz stuff in Turkey and when he went he would bring me back Turkish delight. It is like jelly with embedded nuts, different flavors and it tastes good but smelled? Tastes awesome. But you are having olfactory halluciations, Lech. This is serious business.
#82
February 16, 2012 11:22 AM - CGar
rf, I am VERY SORRY if my 11:06 post sounded ungrateful and smarmy. I really didn't mean it to. Thank you very much for the Valentine's Day card! I greatly appreciate it. I was only confused because all I received were 2 emails saying that I sent you an ecard.
#83
February 16, 2012 11:25 AM - rf
Cgar, it's ok. Don't worry, be happy! And I already apoloogized to Bxgrl yesterday, although she's not here much.
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:25 AM
#84
February 16, 2012 12:01 PM - rf
Oy, another threadkiller! Ok, here's something:
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:01 PM
#85
February 16, 2012 12:05 PM - dibs
Maybe they should try and change things for themselves before they attempt to change the world, rf.

And where are they now?? Did they just get tired of all the drum beating, tent living, thefts, bedbugs and venereal diseases???

OWS Oakland was certainly a credit to their cause.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:11 PM
#86
February 16, 2012 12:16 PM - Legion
From Merriam-Webster's Dictionary:

Occupy Wall Street (OWS) : occ-u-py wall str-eet
n. a disorganized group of adults who gather from time to time to bang drums, order pizza and exchange fleas.
Not necessarily in that order.


Edited at February 16, 2012 12:16 PM
#87
February 16, 2012 12:16 PM - etson
checking each other's pulses?
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:16 PM
#88
February 16, 2012 12:16 PM - CGar
Puma, thanks, but that Corcoran link you posted is in contract. Also, it's the Columbia Street Waterfront, not Carroll Gardens. Don't get me wrong, as I love some of the bars and restaurants on Columbia, but due to the limited street access crossing the BQE and the hike to public transportation, stores, etc., not to mention dog runs now (!!), I don't think I'd buy over there.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:16 PM
#89
February 16, 2012 12:24 PM - dibs
I think the market's ability to rally today like it is doing is pretty incredible given that selloff yeasterday.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:24 PM
#90
February 16, 2012 12:25 PM - MontroseMorris
Just because the movement lacked organization and discipline as a whole, it does not mean that the goals and motivations of the serious activists in the movement lack merit.

If the right is going to get their panties in a twist over having the tea party referred to in any kind of negative way, then respect the OWS for the same.

If the tea party has serious people trying to affect the change they want, and are not the movement of a bunch of racist redneck ignoramuses, who seem to personify them, then the OWS movement is much more than young, disaffected lazy beardos banging on drums. Both sides have their nutballs, both sides have some serious thought behind them.

I'm not even talking about my own opinion on the subject matter, either.
#91
February 16, 2012 12:26 PM - rf
We are still talking about the 1 percent/99 percent, aren't we?
#92
February 16, 2012 12:28 PM - Kensingtonian
Did everyone see Brooklynista's late post on the Bstoner's Chris Arnade pics? Oy vey.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:28 PM
#93
February 16, 2012 12:29 PM - rf
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Edited at February 16, 2012 12:29 PM
#94
February 16, 2012 12:31 PM - MontroseMorris
I thought Brooklynista's post was well said and quite correct. We all interpret things from our own backgrounds and experiences. My truth may not be your truth, even though we are looking at the same thing. And Jon does have a very successful business which often does benefit from controversial social issues.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:31 PM
#95
February 16, 2012 12:38 PM - Kensingtonian
Oh come on MM. I saw her trying to pull a race issue and calling out Jon for posting it to get hit counts which was totally not his intention. Arnade does really awesome work and just coming across his working and posting it doesn't scream race bait.

Your "no duh' was totally legit but she was a bit too much.
#96
February 16, 2012 12:41 PM - dibs
I'll be playing the AARP card from now on.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:41 PM
#97
February 16, 2012 12:42 PM - MontroseMorris
I disagree, Kens. I'm not going to debate what Jon's intentions were, as neither of us are telepathic, but her reactions are certainly valid, and she and I were not the only ones to think that way. Dylanfan did as well, for the same reasons.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:42 PM
#98
February 16, 2012 12:42 PM - Arkady
CG - That listing was in a little Corco booklet that came w/ today's paper & verbiage was lifted verbatim.
#99
February 16, 2012 12:44 PM - Legion
Occupy Wall Street failed on all levels:
They failed to garner popular support, the only numbers they actually tallied where on days when the cynical unions attempted to jump their train.
They failed to articulate a coherent message, mainly because there was no logical reasoning to their protest. They themselves elected the change they were protesting against.
They failed to overthrow the government as many wanted.
They failed to get sympathy from the majority of Americans who are busy trying to make this nation actually work within the system, not from without, with assistance from foreign agitators (adbusters).

Really, MM you should be able to discern an actual movement rooted in legitimate gripes
from one rooted in a sense of entitlement.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:44 PM
February 16, 2012 12:45 PM - dibs
Very well put, Legion.

In fact, I had completely forgot about all of OWS had it not been for rf's asinine post :)
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:45 PM
February 16, 2012 12:45 PM - rf
from the pontificator of course.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:45 PM
February 16, 2012 12:46 PM - rf
.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:46 PM
February 16, 2012 12:50 PM - Arkady
OWS has entered the language as an enduring word & is also responsible for the ensuing, continuing dialogue about 99 vs 1% so it was not all in vain. Since they had no stated goals (as you all constantly remind us), they can't be said not to've achieved them.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:51 PM
February 16, 2012 12:51 PM - Kensingtonian
So if you disagree, you are admitting that you essentially write for a blog that purposely throws rate baiting to get post counts up. Not very pompous of you :o)
February 16, 2012 12:51 PM - Legion
correction rf:
CO- CHIEF Pontificator!
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:51 PM
February 16, 2012 12:54 PM - Legion
I disagree arkady,
the OWS movement simply occupies a position as a place marker in recent politics.
They have no meaning beyond their own spectacle. We aren't talking Robespierre et al. here.
What amazes me is that even with all the sycophants in the major media rooting for them, they still defaulted to true form and degenerated into an all out riot in several cities.

Stop propping them up folks on the Left.
You know if the Right was propping up a bunch of skin heads you would be screaming bloody murder.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:54 PM
February 16, 2012 12:55 PM - dibs
I don't actually pontificate. I sometimes make pronouncements, or so I've been told.
February 16, 2012 12:56 PM - Legion
haha dibs,

Pronouncements are sometimes needed to avoid all the annoying work of having to educate the masses. ;o)
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:55 PM
February 16, 2012 12:56 PM - Arkady
"You know if the Right was propping up a bunch of skin heads you would be screaming bloody murder."
Are you implying that they don't!?!?
Oy! The discussions I get dragged into just to avoid doing some work.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:56 PM
February 16, 2012 12:56 PM - rf
bla blah BLAH blah blah blah BLAH blah blah...99 percent/1 percent.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:56 PM
February 16, 2012 12:58 PM - dibs
You started it, rf.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:58 PM
February 16, 2012 12:58 PM - Legion
Arkady,
I have yet to even meet a skinhead in all my work on the Right.
Can you say the same about anti-Americans on the Left?
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:58 PM
February 16, 2012 12:59 PM - Slopefarm
A belated LOL rf, for take your cat to work day! Yes, that is exactly what would happen.

Given our small, insular OT community, is there really anything needs to say to anyone here about OWS that hasn't been said here about 20-30 times? I think we could all switch sides and ghost write each other's material and no one would notice the difference.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:59 PM
February 16, 2012 12:59 PM - Legion
It's always interesting to touch the bubble that surrounds the majority of New Yorkers when it comes to politics.
Edited at February 16, 2012 12:59 PM
February 16, 2012 1:00 PM - dibs
I see a lot of Latinos with mohawks I'd like to meat.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:00 PM
February 16, 2012 1:00 PM - Kensingtonian
OWS is kinda like my co-op. People screaming that we're not doing a good job but yet no one can say what can be done better and a few with loud voices have their own agenda to push the issue (allow dogs, allow lenient rent rules, etc. etc.).
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:00 PM
February 16, 2012 1:01 PM - etson
Think you're right, Kens.
Saying anything at all about some (usually minority-majority) neighborhoods on brownstoner is a minefield. People see any comment through the lens of other debates / narratives. Bit of an open question for me as to whether Jon sets this off deliberately. Sometimes he undoubtedly does, but I don't think that piece was one of them.

Don't think it's about neighborhood sensitivity in general - everyone knows it's OK to laugh at Williamsburg for example.

February 16, 2012 1:01 PM - Slopefarm
"meat"?

Freudian slip or intentional pun?
February 16, 2012 1:03 PM - dibs
I knew you'd catch that. Slopey
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:03 PM
February 16, 2012 1:04 PM - Arkady
I've met & even know some skinheads - both of left & right. Certainly the teabags aren't the most pacific people in the world & their affiliations to gun-toting, race-baiting whack jobs is a given.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:04 PM
February 16, 2012 1:05 PM - Donatella
MM, I understand your point about Chris Artrade. Once upon a time, for fun I was studying photography at SVA and discovered I did not like taking street shots of people. Maybe I felt it was intrusive. Or worse exploitative. I am not saying that the photographer was exploitative in any purposeful way, but there is something in those photography that feels like his going out on a safari. It is not conscious, I am sure. But I didn't like those faces of addiction somehow. "Look what I found in the ghetto!" Real humans. How soulful. Call me a crank. I know I am a crank but they left a creepy taste in my mouth.
February 16, 2012 1:05 PM - lechacal
What's so wrong with saying someone's perfume raped my nose? My nose didn't want it. Just because a nose isn't saying no doesn't mean it's ok to force your odor on it.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:05 PM
February 16, 2012 1:07 PM - dibs
"If it's inevitable, might as well lay back and enjoy it," lech
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:07 PM
February 16, 2012 1:08 PM - Legion
I'll say it again Arkady,
I have yet to even meet a single skinhead in all my work on the Right.
This is going back at least two decades since I've never been on the Left.

Please cite where and when there was sustained violence from the Tea Party? I'm ready to cite and post several videos of the OWS crowd's antics.

As far as gun-toting. I'll take that as a compliment as I am a proud member of the NRA and even have their sticker posted on my Mini. ;o)
Nothing wrong with the Second amendment folks. Unless of course the Constitution is a problem!
February 16, 2012 1:08 PM - lechacal
And most Turkish delight is horrid. It's fake rose flavor in a gelatinous sugary thing dusted with powdered sugar. Real Turkish del it made with real rose water or whatever is good though.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:08 PM
February 16, 2012 1:09 PM - MontroseMorris
No Kens, I'm not admitting that at all. A great deal of B'stoner is pure real estate blather. No one, not even me, ever said the What was completely wrong about some of the stories that got posted, when he talked about the race/class wars.

Both before and after I started to work for him, I'd call foul on stories that I felt had that bias, but even now, working for him, I don't read Brownstoner every day, so I miss one every once in a while. I try to post my articles days before they show up, and when I have other things to do, I don't read it until late at night when the controversy is over.

That said, calling him on it or not, I think those stories often have great merit, as they can often bring out really good discussions about race and class, and expose attitudes on both sides of the fence that need to get out there, because people are usually too polite or politically correct to air things that smell of controversy. Race and class in this country is never really talked about honestly, and when it is, it usually devolves quickly into stereotypes and name calling, and a vast lumping of people into categories made up by others. And that 's on both sides of the issue.

We like to think, especially when we are friends with people, that we all share a common pool of feelings about social issues, but we really don't. We are all influenced, both positively, and negatively, by our life experiences and backgrounds. Jon's Upper East Side WASP background is very different from mine, and we see many things from a totally different frame of reference, as do you, as does everyone here. I think a healthy discussion is fine, and good for all concerned.

I think Brooklynista's decisions to stay on B'stoner and complain when she feels the need, is a valuable thing for the site. People are certainly free to disagree, and the discussion goes on. As it should.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:09 PM
February 16, 2012 1:09 PM - Donatella
No way no how would I express that on Brownstoner. Jon B's view of the world, the little I have been able to ascertain from the site and his behavior, generally pisses me off. (no commentary on your work, MM).
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:09 PM
February 16, 2012 1:10 PM - Kensingtonian
So I realized why I would absolutely hate living in a place like Buffalo. Lots and lots of white trash all around (Not in our office there though). I came to that realization yesterday when a co-worker of mine with whom I am friends on facebook (and outside facebook) posted that she is heading to Arizona for vacation with her family (she is 29) and is going to stop by Vegas and I commented to go see either La Reve or 'O' as they are both great shows. To that response some hick from Buffalo (who is like 60! and has pictures of him drinking beer with his buddies at some field) called me a "homo". I was going to respond by I decided against it as I work with this girl.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:10 PM
February 16, 2012 1:11 PM - lechacal
The brownstoner guy is a cunt. Why do we keep talking about him??.?. Next person who refers to "over there" gets kicked in the junk.
February 16, 2012 1:12 PM - rf
Good for you, Kens.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:12 PM
February 16, 2012 1:13 PM - dibs
What's the link to this brownstoner thread?????
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:13 PM
February 16, 2012 1:13 PM - rf
Lechacal, are you the arbiter of what we talk about here? I don't think so. You don't even live in Brooklyn! Look at the name of the blog.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:13 PM
February 16, 2012 1:15 PM - Legion
"The brownstoner guy is a cunt. Why do we keep talking about him??.?. Next person who refers to "over there" gets kicked in the junk."

LOL lechacal.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:15 PM
February 16, 2012 1:16 PM - rf
?'I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.'
--Oscar Wilde
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:15 PM
February 16, 2012 1:18 PM - Legion
Can I propose something, since I'm not in the mood to pontificate at this moment?

How about a "Brownstoner Bank" on the upper left there. When we want to trash brownstoner or have the need to swing a sock full of manure, we can just click on the Brownstoner Bank and it posts a photo of someone's gonads getting socked.
February 16, 2012 1:20 PM - Arkady
I own guns too but don't belong to NRA. I'm old but don't belong to AARP. I don't join things because inevitably there're people whose values I don't espouse & policies to which I don't subscribe.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:20 PM
February 16, 2012 1:22 PM - Kensingtonian
I don't talk about Jon really on here....It was more of Chris's pics (if you haven't see them, you really should).

Dona, I loved the series with the addicts. It was really interesting to see what they had to say. Puts a lot of things in perspective as I never spoken to a serious drug addict who ended up homeless from it. Looks like most of them have been abused and spiraled that way towards drugs. Makes a lot of sense.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:22 PM
February 16, 2012 1:22 PM - dibs
Actually, the only clubs of which I am actually a member are:
The Classic Car Club of America
The Chris Craft Society
The Antique & Classic Boat Club
The Pewter Club of America


and, of course,

The National Woodie Club
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:22 PM
February 16, 2012 1:23 PM - dibs
OK...gotta run.


Edited at February 16, 2012 1:23 PM
February 16, 2012 1:23 PM - MontroseMorris
Legion, technically speaking, the Second Amendment is just that, an amendment. It's not the Constitution itself. People tend to forget that when waving their guns around.

And that was not an endorsement or condemnation of your right to own a gun, just a little fact.


Edited at February 16, 2012 1:23 PM
February 16, 2012 1:23 PM - Kensingtonian
If NYC allowed licensed gun ownership, I would totally get one. Maybe even belong to NRA.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:23 PM
February 16, 2012 1:23 PM - Legion
I understand Arkady
but that's gonna be true about any given group of people.
I'd rather join something I believe in then bend it from within to fit my needs.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:23 PM
February 16, 2012 1:24 PM - etson
Wow, remind me never to mess with legion or arkady.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:24 PM
February 16, 2012 1:24 PM - Legion
MM,
You know the first 10 Amendments are also known as the BILL OF RIGHTS!
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:24 PM
February 16, 2012 1:25 PM - etson
I'm a very bad shot.
Might be tempted to have a gun if I lived deep in the countryside.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:25 PM
February 16, 2012 1:26 PM - Legion
kens,
NYC allows it,
just makes it VERY difficult to get the license.
Fingerprints,
Multiple ID's
Background Check,
Lengthy forms,
Money,
Etc.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:26 PM
February 16, 2012 1:31 PM - Kensingtonian
BTW Lech, I totally love when you start insulting people with sophisticated insults like knuckle dragging troglodyte instead of fuck, shit, dick, etc. I totally take notes and will use it as my ammunition when insulting some moron from upstate whose idea of a good time is smashing beer cans against his forehead to prove how mucho he is.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:31 PM
February 16, 2012 1:33 PM - Kensingtonian
Legion, I think you also need a legit reason like you running a business that involves cash transporting and such. I would mind going through all the background checks as my record is crystal clear.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:33 PM
February 16, 2012 1:34 PM - MontroseMorris
Yes I do, Legion, but they are not known as "The Constitution".
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:34 PM
February 16, 2012 1:35 PM - Kensingtonian
Also Legion, I think you can get it to store in your house but it's illegal to carry or to transport basically so kind of defeats the purpose of taking it to shooting ranges and stuff. If I get stopped on the way, I would be arrested. Maybe I am wrong but that's what I understood from doing research years ago. Maybe things have changed. Haven't looked into it in a few years.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:35 PM
February 16, 2012 1:37 PM - Legion
kens,
True, that's for a carry permit.
For home they are slightly less stringent.

Edited at February 16, 2012 1:37 PM
February 16, 2012 1:37 PM - MontroseMorris
Lech, if it wasn't for the existence of Brownstoner, you wouldn't know a soul here, and you wouldn't be here. Give the aggrieved ex-boyfriend thing a rest. You don't have to genuflect at his altar, but you don't have to piss on it, either.
February 16, 2012 1:43 PM - Legion
If you have a firearm for home protection, you are allowed to transport it to and from a range.
It has to be in the trunk and in a transport container separate from the ammo.

I recall Denton saying he was big on firearms so I think the OT is pretty well represented on the 2nd amendment front.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:43 PM
February 16, 2012 1:46 PM - lechacal
The constitution has been amended. The constitution is the document, as amended, including all amendments. Saying an amendment is not part of the constitution is both wrong and silly.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:45 PM
February 16, 2012 1:49 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
as a homo (sorta) i take offense that you take offense of someone calling you a homo. you are just as guilty as the person calling you a homo!

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 1:49 PM
February 16, 2012 1:57 PM - Donatella
Kens, I think you can probably look at/understand the pictures on a number of different levels. I am glad you liked them. Like I said, I am a bit of a crank and some of my own attitudes are overlaid on them. But that is why art is interesting. It elicits different reactions and gets people to think and feel.
Edited at February 16, 2012 1:57 PM
February 16, 2012 2:02 PM - MontroseMorris
Rob, I rather think that Kens is more offended that the guy is a homophobic idiot who feels the need to call a total stranger a name, especially over his choice of theatrical entertainment, rather than Kens himself personally taking offense at being called a homo.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:02 PM
February 16, 2012 2:03 PM - Kensingtonian
Funny that you say that Rob lol, cause part of my comment back was going to be that I don't consider homo as an insult.

I was just going to respond him being an ignorant homophobic redneck, that's all.

Good baiting though, Rob. I know you're still pissed at me calling you an ungrateful twat. Shouldn't you be researching tickets to SC or something right about now?
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:03 PM
February 16, 2012 2:05 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
ugh so my money is deposited and i stupidly went and paid my student loans online :-/ now im down like 400 dollars from my refund after i pay the dentist tomorrow. do you think 400 dollars will be enough for this whole trip?

*rob*

February 16, 2012 2:05 PM - Kensingtonian
lol, jinx MM. you're absolutely correct.

Same as him calling me black if I told her to go see a hip hop concert or something like that. I wouldn't be offended at being called black as oppose to just thinking he is a racist jerk and calling him out on it.
February 16, 2012 2:07 PM - jessibaby
M4L, please add $10 to my wager.
February 16, 2012 2:08 PM - Arkady
dibs - What about that Republican club in Phila? Don't you belong? (In the sense of being a member.)
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:08 PM
February 16, 2012 2:08 PM - Kensingtonian
I also don't see what so "homo" about Cirque de Soleil. I could sorta kinda understand if I recommended a broadway musical (which I love - theatre minor in college over here) or Chip and Dales show or something but Cirque de Soleil?

Dona, I actually don't see those photos as art really. Not something I would hang on my walls. But they were just amazing pictures and overall story series.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:08 PM
February 16, 2012 2:09 PM - jessibaby
Union League
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:09 PM
February 16, 2012 2:09 PM - Arkady
Giggle. What was your bet, JB?
February 16, 2012 2:09 PM - dibs
It's The Union League of Philadelphia and, it's not specifically a republican club, although it was based upon the support for Lincoln
February 16, 2012 2:10 PM - dibs
We belong because they give you a "full pour."
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:10 PM
February 16, 2012 2:11 PM - Kensingtonian
I don't know why you guys waste your future carpel tunnel on Rob. Everyone knows he wonít go to SC anyway, no matter how much time he blathers on here. I am also not looking forward to a year worth of blogging guilt trips of how he didn't go.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:11 PM
February 16, 2012 2:11 PM - jessibaby
I had $10 on him not going, now itís $20.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:11 PM
February 16, 2012 2:12 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
The UniverSOUL Circus > all other circuses. kens are you going to the circus? can you pick me up some circus peanuts? they are not actual peanuts, they are like orange marshmellow candies. thanks! people always promise me circus peanuts and then never deliver :(

*rob*

February 16, 2012 2:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im gonna go. i may show up broke, but ill get there

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 2:15 PM
February 16, 2012 2:16 PM - Kensingtonian
Sorry Rob, not going to a circus. I vaguely remember seeing those circus peanuts for sale like in duane reade or rite-aid or something.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:16 PM
February 16, 2012 2:17 PM - Donatella
I made chicken in a great way last night -- roasted with some rosemary in the cavity and then a mustard, vinegar, oil mixture between skin and flesh and over top. I roasted it for 20 minutes high heat and then the rest, 375. It was really good. Tomorrow night my friend is coming over and I am making shrimp scampi with rice and a Latino touch -- tostones.

I lost 3.5 lbs my first week dieting. I alway gain weight when I DON'T cook. And when I cook all this good stuff, the opposite.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:17 PM
February 16, 2012 2:17 PM - Arkady
I haven't seen O but would love to. I saw them setting it up years ago & it was amazing.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:17 PM
February 16, 2012 2:18 PM - Slopefarm
Talking about brownstoner here is like immigrants talking about the old country. Never going to stop completely.
February 16, 2012 2:19 PM - Arkady
Kens - Are you getting in on M4L's pool? I've got $4 saying he'll go.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:19 PM
February 16, 2012 2:22 PM - jessibaby
I resisted but ended up really enjoying O.

Rob, if youíre gonna go, whip out your debit card and log onto Amtrak.com and set it up right now. You will be debited today. This is the only way youíll have enough money to buy the ticket. The weekend is coming and itís a long one.

Edited at February 16, 2012 2:22 PM
February 16, 2012 2:23 PM - Donatella
Kens, repeat after me....knuckle dragging trogolyte; prehensile beast with barely functioning brain stem. Mouthbreathing, dos dedos, low functioning, xenophobic Phillistine.

BTW, in case you missed the convo with dibs, "dos dedos" in Spanish literally means two fingers. And it means that a person's forehead is so small it would take up the space of the thickness of two fingers. A creative way of saying DUMB.

So that is my opinion of said Cirque de Soilel hater in Buffalo.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:23 PM
February 16, 2012 2:24 PM - Donatella

I raised my bid to 10 dollars that he'll go.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:24 PM
February 16, 2012 2:26 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i plan to purchase the tickets this weekend. i have to decided on the days.. and get in touch with people down there to make sure the days i will arrive are definitely okay. i wish bank accounts had an option to not let you touch your money until a specific date no matter how much you beg and whine.

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 2:26 PM
February 16, 2012 2:28 PM - jessibaby
Rob, book now so the money is out of your account. You can always modify a reservation.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:28 PM
February 16, 2012 2:32 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
no, im going to trust myself that i do not touch that money! it's not like it's just cash sitting at home in my ms pacman lunchbox!!!!


*rob*

February 16, 2012 2:33 PM - jessibaby
Rob, does the debit card not function as an atm card?
February 16, 2012 2:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
ive never used it as an ATM card. is that going to be a problem getting tickets? like picking them up?


*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 2:38 PM
February 16, 2012 2:39 PM - Arkady
Oh, and, rob. You may even save money on your trip. I bet cigs are less than half what they are here.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:39 PM
February 16, 2012 2:42 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh yeah. how many are you allowed to buy? i know you cant take a certain amount passed state lines. is it two packs or two cartons?

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 2:42 PM
February 16, 2012 2:43 PM - Arkady
As many as you like for personal use.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:43 PM
February 16, 2012 2:44 PM - jessibaby
you should call your bank and make sure it's activated.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:44 PM
February 16, 2012 2:50 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
it's not activated. i never activated it as a debit card. does it have to an ATM card? ugh. does it have to be activated for when i pick the tickets up? would it be better for me to go to penn station this weekend or something and just purchase a ticket in person?

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 2:49 PM
February 16, 2012 2:50 PM - Kensingtonian
Thanks Dona!

Both 'O' and La Reve were very good. La Reve is a smaller venue but 'O' is just much more extravagant.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:50 PM
February 16, 2012 2:52 PM - Slopefarm
I'm not sure that's still true, arkady. There may be NYS and fed laws that place a limit on the # of cartons above which the presumption is that the cigs are not for personal use.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:52 PM
February 16, 2012 2:53 PM - jessibaby
You canít purchase on-line unless it has been activated. You canít swipe at the kiosk at the station unless it has been activated.

You could go to the window with cash but then itís likely youíll need a valid ID. Also, if you decide not to go, Iím not sure youíll get a cash refund. You might. I donít know as Iím a normal NYC human and use plastic for this sort of thing.

Edited at February 16, 2012 2:53 PM
February 16, 2012 2:53 PM - MontroseMorris
How could anyone with an iota of imagination and childlike wonder not like Cirque Du Soleil? I haven't seen them since the 90's, but still consider those 4 shows I did see to be among the highlights of my theatrical experiences.

Actually, I answered my own question. Obviously that person didn't have an iota of imagination or wonder.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:53 PM
February 16, 2012 2:58 PM - MontroseMorris
MY LAST COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE: Rob, go to the bank and activate the damn card. It costs NOTHING. If you don't ever use it again, it still costs nothing. Debit cards are very handy to have in an emergency, anyone with a bank account should have one, you are not required to use it if you don't want to.

IF you do this, all the rest of your questions and problems will take care of themselves. You simply swipe your card like millions of people before you, and complete the simple transaction.

Please, for God's sake, either do it, or stop talking about it. I'm done.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:58 PM
February 16, 2012 2:59 PM - Kensingtonian
MM, you are wrong. Apperently you HAVE to be homo to truly enjoy Cirque de Soliel :o).

I saw probably 8 Cirque shows but the water ones in Vegas were by far the best ones. You cannot reproduce it with the traveling Cirque shows. They have special built tanks that can flush out the water in record speeds that also have moving floors in order to accomodate acrobatic acts with scuba divers and all. Pretty awesome.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:59 PM
February 16, 2012 2:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
wait, i think i HAVE used it as a debit card (once) i mean i never used it as an ATM card
(you have to punch in a 4 digit code for that right? i never set that up..). ATM machines gross me out


*rob*

February 16, 2012 3:00 PM - Slopefarm
Clearly, one should always take the "over" on any bet as to how long a discussion will go on involving collective efforts to help rob navigate the most basic matters in life.
Edited at February 16, 2012 2:59 PM
February 16, 2012 3:03 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
ugh. is there a disorder where everything feels extremely complicated and spazzy?

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 3:03 PM
February 16, 2012 3:03 PM - jessibaby
Ha, news from the ďold countryĒ - in the ENY thread, Vinca just made fun of Mr. B for driving 14 hours for a cat. lolz.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:03 PM
February 16, 2012 3:05 PM - Deleted
This thread is not one of the best...

A couple of comments:

Montrose, we're all entitled to a post we wish we hadn't written. I'll put your Constitution comments in that category. To say that amendments to the Constitution are not part of the Constitution is...um....really out there.

Kens;

It seems to me that judging an entire locale by the comments of one guy on Facebook is pretty judgmental in and of itself.

That's it for me today.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:05 PM
February 16, 2012 3:12 PM - etson
I judge Buffalo based on its local news (housefires, gang murders, snow, strikes, Bills, Sabres usually in that order).
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:12 PM
February 16, 2012 3:13 PM - Kensingtonian
Benson, you are correct but unfortunately that's not the first time I experienced something like that there. Went to a couple of places and the minute you leave the high end suburbs with nice restaurants, unfortunately most of that area consists of pretty trashy folks. My co-workers are all pretty professional and super nice but the minute I met some of these friends, they were basically like this one guy on facebook. I just barely see anyone like that in NYC so even 5 of the same type of trashy judgemental people make me want to generalize.

What do you expect from a place with demographics such as this (straight from census):

The racial makeup was 97.90% White, 2.00% African American, 0.03% Native American, 0.40% Asian, 0.04% from other races, and 0.52% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.69% of the population.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:13 PM
February 16, 2012 3:14 PM - Arkady
I've seen most of the Cirques - only thing I didn't like was Wintuk (& really didn't like that - thought it was a huge mistake for them to put it on in NYC as a lure to people to see the bigger shows.)
I thought Slopey's 3:00 was the LOTD - Laugh of the Day. Biggest chuckle I've had.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:14 PM
February 16, 2012 3:16 PM - etson
Oof, so living in an area that is 90%+ white makes one 'trashy'?! That is BS, I'm afraid.

Also, the city itself has more minority people than that.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:16 PM
February 16, 2012 3:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
you don't see trashy people all over NYC?! whaaaaa? are you blind!?

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 3:16 PM
February 16, 2012 3:17 PM - Kensingtonian
lol Etson, that pretty much is Buffalo but I think I rather live in Buffalo then the outskirts where the racial make up is like the one I posted above. I kinda sorta like diversity. Last thing I want is to be the only Jew in town.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:17 PM
February 16, 2012 3:18 PM - etson
Not sure but I think there is actually somewhat of a Jewish community there.
February 16, 2012 3:18 PM - Deleted
"What do you expect from a place with demographics such as this (straight from census):

The racial makeup was 97.90% White, 2.00% African American, 0.03% Native American, 0.40% Asian, 0.04% from other races, and 0.52% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.69% of the population."

Straight from ther RF school of thought.

Let's do a thought experiment. Suppose I made a comment about some locale - let's say East Flatbush - and ended it with the statement "What do you expect from a place that is 97.90 % black and 2.0% white"?"

I'll leave it at that.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:18 PM
February 16, 2012 3:19 PM - Donatella
I saw Cirques only once -- downtown in a tent in Battery Park with a friend of mine. I was transfixed. These human beings were amazing. Without bones. You forgot they were human and they could have been lizards or snakes or ......I don't know. It was another dimension.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:19 PM
February 16, 2012 3:20 PM - Kensingtonian
Ok ok Etson, I should retract that statement. I apologize, that was too much of generalization.

I think the fact that there are very small minorities in some of these towns breeds ignorance. I don't know for a fact but I know that a lot of the people that I work with from that office have fairly professional jobs and good income but a vast amount of them have never traveled outside of 60 mile radius from where they grew up.
February 16, 2012 3:22 PM - Kensingtonian
Not true Benson. If you told me that make up of a certain town was 98% black and 2% white I would also say that it breeds ignorance and racism just as much. Maybe I am wrong but the ball swings both ways in that court.
February 16, 2012 3:25 PM - Kensingtonian
etson, you are once again correct on Buffalo. A small size jewish community there. Not in the outskirts though. That's why if I moved, I would probably settle in Buffalo at first and then if/when I made good income I would settle in one of the richy rich towns on the outskirts to raise a family or just come back to NYC. Who knows.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:25 PM
February 16, 2012 3:25 PM - MontroseMorris
Thanks so much for your input, Benson. I notice there was no comment from you regarding the legitimacy of Legion's remark that there are no right wing skinheads, based solely on the criteria that he hasn't met any. Or his intimation that there are a great deal of Anti-American people on the left, another comment based solely on conjecture. But please, feel free to pop in and cherry pick on people's comments that you don't like.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:25 PM
February 16, 2012 3:27 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I know that a lot of the people that I work with from that office have fairly professional jobs and good income but a vast amount of them have never traveled outside of 60 mile radius from where they grew up.

um, maybe they do it on the internet? travel doesn't make one worldly btw, and especially doesnt make one any more intelligent.


*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 3:27 PM
February 16, 2012 3:31 PM - Kensingtonian
Skinheads are liberals? Makes sense why so many voted for Obama. :o)

I actually have seen a true skinhead once in my life in Port Authority with the whole white pride patches on his jean jacket and all. Everyone was looking at him like he was an exhibit at the MET or like a caged 800 pound gorilla at the bronx zoo. No one would say a word but people eyes were totally popping out of their heads just watching him standing there smoking a cigarette.

Have never seen one when traveling to midwest or south or west coast. Was kind of thrown back to see one in NYC.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:31 PM
February 16, 2012 3:32 PM - jessibaby
ď travel doesn't make one worldly btw, and especially doesnt make one any more intelligent.Ē

Dave, whatís the opposite of QED?

Edited at February 16, 2012 3:32 PM
February 16, 2012 3:34 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
what does QED mean

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 3:34 PM
February 16, 2012 3:34 PM - Kensingtonian
"um, maybe they do it on the internet? travel doesn't make one worldly btw, and especially doesnt make one any more intelligent."

But it does get them to ask a million questions when they are about to take a real train. I think part of intelligence is buying a round trip ticket using a debit card.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:34 PM
February 16, 2012 3:36 PM - jessibaby
QED is like - youíve proved the point.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:36 PM
February 16, 2012 3:38 PM - etson
More worldly, by definition. More intelligent, no, but certainly not less either.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:38 PM
February 16, 2012 3:39 PM - Slopefarm
"Skinheads are liberals? Makes sense why so many voted for Obama. :o)"

Yeah, about as much sense as all those Jews who voted for Buchanan in West Palm Beach.


Edited at February 16, 2012 3:39 PM
February 16, 2012 3:40 PM - Arkady
QED - Quod Erat Demonstrandum - That which was to've been proven (in other words, as JB said.)
February 16, 2012 3:40 PM - etson
Plenty of skinheads in London when I lived there 12-15 years ago. Sure there still are.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:40 PM
February 16, 2012 3:41 PM - Slopefarm
For you, rob:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q.E.D.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:41 PM
February 16, 2012 3:41 PM - Arkady
Yeah, etson, tons of them. I was surprised to see so many in Edinburgh's Princess St. Gdns too.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:41 PM
February 16, 2012 3:42 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i find that a lot of moonfaces are just like skinheads, but with hair and they're just closeted about their beliefs. awful awful people.


*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 3:42 PM
February 16, 2012 3:45 PM - Slopefarm
Didn't see skins in Edinburgh this summer, though the skins may have fled all the theatre folks in town for the Fringe. I bet there's more of a skinhead scene in Glasgow.

Anyway, all this talk of Edinburgh reminds me that, while I've managed to find local sources of Belhaven (bottle and draft) I haven't found any good local sources for sticky toffee pudding.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:45 PM
February 16, 2012 3:49 PM - Legion
....uggg,
after all the plathering on here about that brownstoner thread, I actually took valuable time out of my day to go over there and have a look.

Put it this way: I actually grew up in East New York, and I don't feel like commenting on that thread, that's how much of a snore fest it is.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
February 16, 2012 3:49 PM - Kensingtonian
Etson, are there skinheads all over europe? The only shows I saw on them were within U.S.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:49 PM
February 16, 2012 3:50 PM - etson
They are all over but more common in London than anywhere else.
Belhaven not hard to find. They have it at Park Slope Ale House.
February 16, 2012 3:50 PM - Arkady
Slopey - Have you looked at Key on 5th? Or Meyer's of Keswick in the west Village? Greenwich St. I think.
February 16, 2012 3:51 PM - Arkady
Meyer's has really good bangers (although some people think that's an oxymoron.)
February 16, 2012 3:51 PM - Slopefarm
"Belhaven not hard to find."

True -- but a good toffee pudding or bowl of cullen skink is harder to come by here.
February 16, 2012 3:51 PM - etson
Yes lots. In addition to London lots in Germany, Neths, Belgium, parts of Eastern Europe.
Not much of a thing in Southern Europe afaik.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:51 PM
February 16, 2012 3:53 PM - Kensingtonian
Hmmm, didn't see any in Belgium or netherlands when I went but I was in pretty touristy areas. I really really want to go to London but so damn expensive :-/
February 16, 2012 3:53 PM - Arkady
I bet there're recipes for Cullen Skink on Google. I don't care for it.
Edited at February 16, 2012 3:53 PM
February 16, 2012 3:54 PM - Donatella
I never met anybody who would fit into the category of a skin head. I did however sit next to some of my brother's in laws at family functions who straddle that category.
February 16, 2012 4:02 PM - Legion
"Thanks so much for your input, Benson. I notice there was no comment from you regarding the legitimacy of Legion's remark that there are no right wing skinheads, based solely on the criteria that he hasn't met any."

Reading comprehension FAIL there MM.
I said that I wouldn't be providing cover for radical Right wingers (such as skinheads)
and
that I had not met a single one in my 20 plus years of involvement on the Right here in New York.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:02 PM
February 16, 2012 4:02 PM - Legion
*see comment below
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:02 PM
February 16, 2012 4:12 PM - Slopefarm
Wow, you can use the edit function to create footnotes retroactively!
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:12 PM
February 16, 2012 4:13 PM - Kensingtonian
So quiet around here after all this skinhead and my generalizations talk....


Soooooo, what is everyone doing for the long weekend? We're open Monday so I'm working...then going to the Knicks/Nets game to see Lin conduct some spanking on Deron Williams.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:12 PM
February 16, 2012 4:15 PM - Kensingtonian
Watching Knicks live is pretty awesome. You gotta love the whole MSG screaming "MVP MVP" every time Lin gets the ball.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:15 PM
February 16, 2012 4:17 PM - Legion
LOL slopefarm.

kens,
the kids are out of school,
so I guess that means more work for me. :o(
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:17 PM
February 16, 2012 4:18 PM - Kensingtonian
Sorry to hear that Legion. Heard that littlelegions are very adorable.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:18 PM
February 16, 2012 4:23 PM - Legion
Thanks kens,
I'm really only kidding about that,
I love spending more time with them, as much as I can.

I bet you can't wait till the Barclay's Arena is finished to see some games in Brooklyn.
It'll be something to see some professional games in Brooklyn.
I do recommend Brooklyn Aviators hockey and Brooklyn Cyclones baseball though.
February 16, 2012 4:24 PM - rf
Rob, write this down: tomorrow I will go to the bank and make sure I can use my bank card as a debit card.

Think of a 4-number password. You will need it.

There, another step out of the way.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:24 PM
February 16, 2012 4:25 PM - MontroseMorris
Splitting hairs, Legion.

These are your exact quotes: "I have yet to even meet a skinhead in all my work on the Right.
Can you say the same about anti-Americans on the Left?"

"I'll say it again Arkady,
I have yet to even meet a single skinhead in all my work on the Right.
This is going back at least two decades since I've never been on the Left."

I fail to see where I "failed" in interpreting your comments.

Edited at February 16, 2012 4:25 PM
February 16, 2012 4:28 PM - dibs
I AM NO LONGER A BROOKLYN HOMEOWNER!!!!!!
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:28 PM
February 16, 2012 4:31 PM - Legion
MM,
The first statement is correct, it says nothing about the existence of "skinheads" elsewhere.
The second statement is saying the same thing again.
The context however is important, I was also pointing out that if I did meet some kind of organized anti-American bigotry, I would not be covering for them, I would be exposing them.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:31 PM
February 16, 2012 4:32 PM - Legion
Congratulations on the sale of your brownstone dibs!
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:32 PM
February 16, 2012 4:35 PM - DeLepp
Congrats Dave!
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:35 PM
February 16, 2012 4:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
okay nice was at bank and was asking if my card was activated and she asked if i forgot my pin number and i was like i dont remember ever picking one out. she said she'd send me a pin reminder, then id have to call for a new pin and they will send it but it takes three weeks i was like FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK you cant tell me what mine is or give me one right now!? :( then i passed the ATMS and had an epiphony, stuck my card in and totally remembered my pin #!!!! so that card is working, tht is a GOOD start

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 4:38 PM
February 16, 2012 4:40 PM - DeLepp
What is pin # so that I can play win 4 tonight?
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:40 PM
February 16, 2012 4:41 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
RF see my last post.. was just at the bank and it came to me in a psychic flash.

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 4:41 PM
February 16, 2012 4:45 PM - jessibaby
Haha, DeLepp.

Rob, how much did you take out?
February 16, 2012 4:45 PM - Kensingtonian
Congrats DIBS!!!
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:45 PM
February 16, 2012 4:46 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i would have been SCREWED tho waiting for a pin to arrive in the mail, she said it takes THREE weeks

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 4:46 PM
February 16, 2012 4:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
jessi i didnt take anything out, just looked at my balance, tho i dont feel comfortable having this on me now :( i think when i go home ill put it in a lockbox


*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 4:47 PM
February 16, 2012 4:49 PM - jessibaby
Wow. I'm impressed. Why don't you give it to your roommate to hold through the end of the weekend. You can write down the numbers on the front along with expiration and code on back so you can book ticket still.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:49 PM
February 16, 2012 4:49 PM - Kensingtonian
Rob, why don't you hand the card over to your roommate and ask him not to give it to you no matter what until it's time for you to go to SC. Just buy the ticket before you do that.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:49 PM
February 16, 2012 4:49 PM - lechacal
What's the talk about cirque du soleil? That it's homo or something? Two of my sisters used to be one of the headline trapeze acts in a traveling cirque du soleil show (saltimbanco). I hung out with pretty much the whole cast at some point or another. I don't think any of them were actual,y homo come to think of it. Some of the guys were serious players, some of the girls too.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:49 PM
February 16, 2012 4:50 PM - jessibaby
Double jointed people like to get freaky.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:50 PM
February 16, 2012 4:50 PM - rf
Rob, I think Jessi (was it Jessi?) has a good idea about making your reservation ASAP. Of course you do have to clear it with the people giving you rides, but you should do it soon.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:50 PM
February 16, 2012 4:51 PM - dibs
i think when i go home ill put it in a lockbox

*rob*

Like your social security is!!!!!
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:51 PM
February 16, 2012 4:52 PM - jessibaby
Dave, if you didnt have three other houses, you could claim you were homeless like StevieB.

Congrats!
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:52 PM
February 16, 2012 4:53 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
yeah im going to clear it with everyone this weekend and then book the tickets on monday. i am not hanging over my debit card and asking them to hold it. i mean, it's a GOOD idea, but doing so id come across as some sort of invalid with no impulse control!

*rob*

February 16, 2012 4:54 PM - jessibaby
QED
February 16, 2012 4:55 PM - Kensingtonian
JB, I second that.
Edited at February 16, 2012 4:55 PM
February 16, 2012 4:55 PM - Deleted
Congrats, DIBS!
February 16, 2012 4:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
so who bought your house? are you gonna throw a big party and trash the place before you leave?


*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 4:59 PM
February 16, 2012 5:00 PM - lechacal
Wait, DIBS you sold your place in bed stuy?. I'll be back in a few hours.
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:00 PM
February 16, 2012 5:00 PM - Donatella
Good for you, Dave. Good luck and congratulations.
February 16, 2012 5:00 PM - Deleted
My mom had a heart valve replacement operation today. All went well. She has been waiting for this operation for over six months - the wait is at long last over.

The original plan was to replace it via open-heart surgery. After numerous fase starts, the doctors determined that she was not a candidate, because her blood count was too low.

Fortunately a new procedure has just been introduced in this country in which the valve is replaced via a probe! It has been in use in Europe for about 6-7 years, but it was just approved here by the FDA.

I find it unbelievable that they can replace the valve via a probe. Medical technology is amazing these days.
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:00 PM
February 16, 2012 5:00 PM - rf
DIBS, are you going to vote in Carversville?
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:00 PM
February 16, 2012 5:04 PM - Donatella

That's wonderful, Benson. It really IS incredible. Her recovery will be light years faster; my best for a speedy recovery.
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:04 PM
February 16, 2012 5:06 PM - Deleted
Another amzing fact: after the surgeon finished with my mom - a 4 hour operation - he was going to perform another one! Two valve-replacement surgeries in one day. Talk about putting in a day's work!
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:06 PM
February 16, 2012 5:07 PM - rf
Great news about your mom, Benson. Hope her recovery is uneventful--the best kind.
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:07 PM
February 16, 2012 5:08 PM - rf
You know what, Benson? I'm really glad your mom's surgery was first! I don't know that I'd want to be patient number 2 for a 4-hour surgery.
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:08 PM
February 16, 2012 5:08 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Wheee! No debtors prison for me! ; ) I got a get out of jail free card at my accountants! Turns out taxes were just about $500 LESS than I anticipated! WHHOOOOOO HOOOOO!
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:08 PM
February 16, 2012 5:08 PM - Deleted
Thanks all! Good night.
February 16, 2012 5:09 PM - rf
Great, Cobble! Congratulations!
February 16, 2012 5:11 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
benson, Very glad your mother did well and to hear about new technology!

My dad had a mitral valve replacement. Full open chest. Really rough. I loved my Dad's heart surgeon, gave us a lot of confidence during a very difficult time. Those guys are amazing.


Edited at February 16, 2012 5:11 PM
February 16, 2012 5:11 PM - dibs
yes, carversville
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:11 PM
February 16, 2012 5:13 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I AM NO LONGER A BROOKLYN HOMEOWNER!!"

Congratulations, DIBS!
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:13 PM
February 16, 2012 5:13 PM - dibs
Thanks all.
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:13 PM
February 16, 2012 5:25 PM - etson
Congratulations DIBS and cobble!

Edited at February 16, 2012 5:25 PM
February 16, 2012 5:32 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Thanks, etson. It's a huge relief. I've been really sweating this for weeks.
February 16, 2012 5:37 PM - etson
I haven't even worked out who is doing my taxes yet this year - the guy in the US or the guy up here.... the US guy is working it out right now after having spent a lot of unpaid time on them last year.
Either way I don't feel good about it (even though I have a carried over refund for a couple of thousand in the US).

I get an automatic extension if I need it for US though b/c I am living here. Canada is April 30th.
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:37 PM
February 16, 2012 5:38 PM - etson
Oh and glad to hear the good news about your mom benson.
February 16, 2012 5:47 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Eesh, I imagine your taxes are pretty complex, etson. What with your property, income and country status.

I knew mine were going to be a little extra complicated this year, had set aside money, and did some rough figuring myself, but you never know what I might not have thought of/known about ó I'm no accountant.

I love my accountant. We always have good chats. I've been using him for 15 +/- years. Had an interesting conversation with him re: cataract surgery. I have little baby cataracts and will need surgery at some point in the next 5 or so years. Accountant's vision was as bad as mine, similar. So it was a lovely thing to see him sitting at his desk not needing glasses for part of the time. He had the cataracts removed and lenses put INSIDE the eye. And now he just needs reading glasses part of the time. Fascinating. Made me less anxious about when I have to go through it.
Edited at February 16, 2012 5:47 PM
February 16, 2012 6:00 PM - jessibaby
both of my parents had the cataract surgery and as much as they were anxious about it, both had great success.
Edited at February 16, 2012 6:00 PM
February 16, 2012 6:01 PM - Donatella
My taxes will be more complicated this year due to my job loss. I have been putting off the work in accumulating all the info from that and my building and a few other things. But my goal is to get all of that together next week and see the accountant the week after. I will feel so much better to have this out of the way.
Edited at February 16, 2012 6:01 PM
February 16, 2012 6:03 PM - etson
Yeah it's never fun. Just one of life's necessary evils. Wish I was one of those smart folks that get lots of deductions but I've never been very good at that stuff.
Edited at February 16, 2012 6:03 PM
February 16, 2012 6:04 PM - Slopefarm
Congrats, dibs! (Wait, I thought Brooklyn homeoewnership is a good thing.) No seriously, congrats. Easy closing?

Edited at February 16, 2012 6:04 PM
February 16, 2012 6:07 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
re: Cataracts ó I'm very queasy about my eyes and anything, even the tests at the eye doc. (Or maybe I'm just queasy about docs/medical stuff, in general.) But it seems like since I found out that I will need this surgery down the line, I'm hearing more about others having it done and to very good effect. Or maybe I'm just paying more attention to the subject. Glad to hear your folks had a very good experience, jessi.
Edited at February 16, 2012 6:07 PM
February 16, 2012 6:15 PM - rf
Cobble, my dad wore glasses like coke bottle bottoms since he was a kid, and even with them, he didn't see well. After his cateract surgery he hardly needs glasses at all. It was truly amazing.
Edited at February 16, 2012 6:14 PM
February 16, 2012 6:19 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
That's really impressive, rf! So amazing.

The accountant had totally thick lenses as well. I'd never seen him without them, it was a little surprising. I have pretty thick lenses even with the hyper-hyper-indexing. The idea of not needing glasses as much is pretty exciting. I've been wearing glasses or contacts since I was 7 years old.
Edited at February 16, 2012 6:19 PM
February 16, 2012 6:24 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
And even more exciting is that he told me that he was DRIVING the very next day! I had no idea that the recovery could be so quick! I assumed things like eye patches and dark rooms and being wobbly/blurry for awhile. I guess that's old news.
Edited at February 16, 2012 6:24 PM
February 16, 2012 6:43 PM - etson
Just for Rob:
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/02/babyccino-is-sweeping-brooklyn.html

This seems like a terrible idea in lots of ways. Only saving grace is that it comes from Australia and not Continental Europe..
February 16, 2012 6:59 PM - rf
Ah, Santorum!

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/02/rick-santorum-contraception-birth-control-sex.html?imw=Y
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February 16, 2012 7:06 PM - Donatella
My old accountant taught me to deduct so many things relating to business. Unfortunately, he started delegating my stuff and making mistakes for a few years in a row. I had to change.
February 16, 2012 7:26 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
My old tax accountant (he's retired now so i'm forced to be finding a new one next year) couldn't be bothered looking for any deductions that might have gotten me more monies (i.e. like student loan interest). but he was quick and cheap so it kinda balances out. next year i think im just going to post an ad on craigslist in the personals section and ask if anyone wants to do my taxes. chances are someone will!


*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 7:26 PM
February 16, 2012 7:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i do not like bringing up the other place, but im sorry. ew barf x 5000. someone asked a legit question only to be given this as an answer in the house of the day thread
"Your faithful blogger is on vacation and could only muster HOTDs from his perch in the Bahamas...COTD back next week."

that's like a jejune, tacky, and puerile hoagie with lots of snob sauce.

actually im not even sure WHY i read that board, but i like looking at houses and stuff, but i think nyc real estate is fucking absurd. but apparently not for silver spoon babies who want prices to quadruple every two years. nyc = not reality.

i know it's awful, but i really wish biochemists would invent a new hardcore drug to correct real estate values in this city. we NEED a new crack epidemic, tho not like people buying all these over inflated properties arent sucking on the glass dick themselves.



*rob*


Edited at February 16, 2012 7:38 PM
February 16, 2012 7:41 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i think we also need a poor(er, MUCH poorer) mayor. having a mayor who is a gazillionaire doesn't help matters much. mayors of cities and towns are like retail ice cream and coffee. slowly introduce insanity pricing and get enough idiots to buy your product and you wind up in a situation like we are now in NYC. there is nothing special in nyc that demands such a mark-up!!!! NOTHING!

Edited at February 16, 2012 7:41 PM
February 16, 2012 7:42 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
and the worst part about the insanity is that it seeps across the hudson river and contaminates (more like retardates) my favorite area of the country! north jersey!

*Rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 7:42 PM
February 16, 2012 7:45 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
if i was mayor of NYC i'd erect a ginormous Berlin-like wall (with NO access to NYC) and pave over the Hudson River and then quit being mayor of NYC and move to NJ. fill the tunnels with cement, get rid of the bridges (or just let NYC turn the damned bridges into even swankier versions of the Gayline, eh, i mean Highline.)

enough is enough. we need another president with the balls to tell NYC to DROP DEAD.

*rob*


*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 7:45 PM
February 16, 2012 7:50 PM - etson
You seem to start this NYC hate rant about 7.30 every night.


February 16, 2012 7:55 PM - etson
Think the headline on that article is misleading, rf. The quote from Santorum says he would 'talk about the dangers of contraception' (as he sees them). The headline implies he would ban or restrict it, which he doesn't say and couldn't do.

Don't agree with his views on contraception but not a big deal to me. I'd rather read that than 'pro-choice' rhetoric.
Edited at February 16, 2012 7:55 PM
February 16, 2012 8:01 PM - Slopefarm
Etson,

I don't read the headline the way you do. Headline talks about Santorum "shaming" women for using contraception, which seems consistent with the quotes in the article. There is a more sinister, in my view, edge to where all this abortion and contraception stuff is going. See below:

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/02/virginia_ultrasound_law_women_who_want_an_abortion_will_be_forcibly_penetrated_for_no_medical_reason.html

Edited at February 16, 2012 8:01 PM
February 16, 2012 8:14 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
the thing i dont get about the whole contraception ban is that there are a million ways to get rid of a baby living inside of you. a MILLION. without having to rely on abortions and meds. of course OBVIOUSLY a legit "medical" abortion is the way to go. but really, it's NOT that hard. and im not talking about coat hangers here (that's AWEFUL and only a total idiot would even think to do such a thing). just google how to get rid of your fetus for free or something. tho i am very pro pills just being available for free everywhere, in bars, restaurants, clinics, etc where you just pop one and the baby is gone. what is so bad about that? i guess i just dont see the moral dilemma. how is it any different than getting rid of an infection with antibiotics? too many stupid and poor people have babies in this country and those of us who don't partake in that nastiness are forced to pay for it out of our paychecks. get the fuck out of here government and just give out free abortion pills already, in fact promote them, starting in middle school. hells give extra credit in coursework if you promise to take a bottle of the pills home with you! im sick and tired of "hungry mouths to feed" in this country. i didnt stick my dick in a hole and squirt to make them! why should i have to pay taxes to support their dead end futures?




*rob*

February 16, 2012 8:21 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
of course the other side of the argument is that if we lived in a world where ONLY wanted pregnancies existed we'd be a world filled with nothing but mega annoying, pampered, and obnoxious humans... now that i think about it pretty much the only people i can stand in life were not planned. (sorry but i find planned babies AWFUL when they become adults). i guess you cant have it both ways. and deep down i do like poor people better than the middle and upper middle class, but i love super rich people the most (except for the ones in power).

paris hilton > michael bloomberg. her power is benign. she just wants to shop and she's really nice. i dont know what bloomberg's deal is, he's a freak. what kinda nutcase would have that much money AND work!? at least when paris hilton "works" she makes it entertaining and farcical and shit. what does bloomburg do? make people feel bad about the shit they do that he will never ever understand.

*rob*

Edited at February 16, 2012 8:21 PM
February 16, 2012 8:28 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i really dont know WHY i come here to plather on in my time between jacking off to porn and making dinner, but i do :-/ sorry. i need to find a new outlet. no one ever wants to intellectually spar with me because everything thinks i'm a retard. a pat on the head here, a pat on the head there. maternal scolding, and too many i told you so's. anyway, im actually (seriously) this time. taking a break and won't be posting again until im in south carolina. im hoping i will get a better perspective from people down there. most likely not, but it's worth a shot.

ill talk to you all in April!



*rob*

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February 16, 2012 8:31 PM - etson
See you tomorrow, Rob!
Edited at February 16, 2012 8:31 PM
February 16, 2012 8:32 PM - Slopefarm
LOL, etson.
Edited at February 16, 2012 8:32 PM
February 16, 2012 9:00 PM - Legion
hey *rob*

Check out this asexual guy who rubs it out for a living.
He's a self-professed virgin but sends his stash out to impregnate women from all over.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/17/trent-arsenault-donorsexual-virgin_n_1211017.html
Edited at February 16, 2012 9:00 PM
February 16, 2012 9:11 PM - rf
THere was a long article about this guy in NY Magazine:
http://nymag.com/news/features/trent-arsenault-2012-2/
Edited at February 16, 2012 9:11 PM
February 16, 2012 9:27 PM - Legion
"i really dont know WHY i come here to plather on in my time between jacking off to porn and making dinner, but i do :-/ sorry. i need to find a new outlet. no one ever wants to intellectually spar with me because everything thinks i'm a retard. a pat on the head here, a pat on the head there. maternal scolding, and too many i told you so's"

I understand *rob*, you have strong views on certain subjects and a unique perspective which is just as valid as a lot of the crap that passes as "informed" policy out there.
There's a lot of scamming and gaming of the system out there for the perceived benefit of advancing society. As if the entire raison d'etre of mankind is to make more of ourselves.
Humans need to evolve.
That's the problem here. Exactly how many times are we supposed to go through the motions of building up a society, providing for everyone, even the freeloaders then watching it all collapse because there are still too many troglodytes on the planet or there are too many lazy freeloaders inside the society looking only to take all the time.

A great start would be for mankind to finally determine which is the most basic of our instincts;
fear or laziness.
Edited at February 16, 2012 9:27 PM
February 16, 2012 9:38 PM - lechacal
Sso wait stop the presses - DIBS sold his place in bed stuy? I was really busy for a few weeks and the OT was blocked as porn, maybe that's when you all discussed it? Anyways, congratulations DIBS, that's fantastic, good choice.
Edited at February 16, 2012 9:38 PM
February 16, 2012 9:38 PM - Donatella
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heLLOOOOOOO? Six, I have to ask you something. If you happen to see this, would you mind emailing me at
donatellaoffortgreene at hotmail dot com.

Thanks!!!!!
Edited at February 16, 2012 9:38 PM
February 16, 2012 9:39 PM - lechacal
Your place in bed stuy was super nice... But I think you'll look back in a few years and be really glad you got out when you did.
Edited at February 16, 2012 9:39 PM
February 16, 2012 9:42 PM - lechacal
I was doing my taxes on turbotax but their program was fucked. It was calculating something wrong. I called and told them. Now I'm just doing it on my own. Two jobs, bought house, investment property, and wife had a loss making small business. The point of doing it myself is to really understand the rules. If you don't know the tax rules you're kind of fucked. And if you palm it off to your accountant e ery year you probably don't know the rules.
Edited at February 16, 2012 9:42 PM
February 16, 2012 9:55 PM - Donatella
Lech, I got turbotax for that purpose. Before I give it to the accountant, I am going to use Turbotax to run it through and see what I get. And to educate myself. I have depreciation schedules for my house and all of the other deductions and have a basic idea but have been giving it to someone for a long time. I had a problem with the guy so I fired him and have a new guy now but want to do it myself to first on Turbo tax to educate myself. Then I will have him formally file it and hopefully I will learn something.
February 16, 2012 11:38 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
LOL, lech, are you going to do your own root canal when you need one, too? Leave it to the experts! : P
Edited at February 16, 2012 11:38 PM