Wednesday Open Thread
November 9, 2011 6:28 AM - BoerumHillScott

428 comments
November 9, 2011 7:37 AM - Deleted
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#1
November 9, 2011 7:43 AM - Donatella
Hi DH, good morning.
#2
November 9, 2011 8:09 AM - Deleted
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#3
November 9, 2011 8:09 AM - dibs
Not going to be a good morning. Something really has to be done about the CDS market and the ability of the large hedge funds to whip these thin markets around (Italian bonds).
#4
November 9, 2011 8:10 AM - dibs
But yes, part of it is Italy's fault as well. Berlusconi at least brought stability to a country that is perennially unstable. benson???????????????????????????????????
Edited at November 9, 2011 8:18 AM
#5
November 9, 2011 8:20 AM - DeadCatBounce
Yes, Benson, please answer for the economic impact of Italy on the world stage.
(I'm kidding - sheesh!)
#6
November 9, 2011 8:20 AM - BoerumHillScott
Good news for liberals from Ohio and Mississippi.
#7
November 9, 2011 8:26 AM - DeLepp
dibs, how was dinner?
Edited at November 9, 2011 8:26 AM
#8
November 9, 2011 8:27 AM - dibs
Mississippi Liberals???????
Edited at November 9, 2011 8:27 AM
#9
November 9, 2011 8:28 AM - dibs
Excellent, DeLepp...Malpeque oysters, calf's kidneys in a mustard sauce and Grand Marnier souffle.
#10
November 9, 2011 8:31 AM - DeLepp
sounds like an extra lipitor or two this morning.
Edited at November 9, 2011 8:31 AM
#11
November 9, 2011 8:33 AM - dibs
Thankfully I'm not on lipitor (yet).
#12
November 9, 2011 8:33 AM - DeLepp
"It is not difficult to rule Italy," Benito Mussolini once said, "it is useless."
#13
November 9, 2011 8:34 AM - BoerumHillScott
The "Personhood begins at fertilization" amendment in Mississippi was defeated.

It was more a win for moderates than liberals, but I'm sure that liberals across the country see it as good news that such an amendment was defeated in a conservative state.
#14
November 9, 2011 8:36 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM

Very happy to see the voting results in Mississippi and Ohio. Not that this is a surprise to anyone! : P
#15
November 9, 2011 9:04 AM - dibs

Occupy Brooklyn is challenging Brooklynites to "join them during this weekend of action to help evict corporate greed from the borough."


http://mcbrooklyn.blogspot.com/2011/11/occupy-brooklyn-this-weekend-if-you.html

Where is this corporate greed that I'm missing in Brooklyn??? Union Market????
#16
November 9, 2011 9:11 AM - Slopefarm
"Mississippi Liberals???????"

No one said there were actual liberals there, though I bet there are at least two or three. The good news is that even Mississippi has its limits. That was one scary amendment they were proposing.

In honor of the voters' unexpected rejection of that amendment (it was polling ahead for a while), I will refrain from posting or linking to the lyrics to Phil Ochs' "Here's to the State of Mississippi." The state deserves a respite.




#17
November 9, 2011 9:12 AM - dibs
Well, there's also Mountain's "Mississippi Queen."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFUUtGVsEOE
#18
November 9, 2011 9:17 AM - Slopefarm
Well that's proof you did not drink to excess last night, dibs. Great tune but impossible to take this early with a hangover.

For those with a hangover, "The Mississippi delta was shining like a National guitar . . . . " Much easier.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:17 AM
#19
November 9, 2011 9:18 AM - dibs
What about "Delta Dawn?"

If one had a hangover, that might evoke a puking response.
#20
November 9, 2011 9:21 AM - Slopefarm
Indeed.

"Dawn, go away, I'm no good for you . . . "

Musical free association. Love it!
#21
November 9, 2011 9:22 AM - dibs
"Good girls don't cry.

They don't cry eye eye

They don't cry"
#22
November 9, 2011 9:22 AM - dibs
"Eye of the tiger"
#23
November 9, 2011 9:25 AM - Slopefarm
Incidentally, Mississippi Queen reminds me that I find a real disconect between what are considered the iconic moments of Woodstock and what -- at leat from the film anyway -- seem to me to be the best performances. I'll take Sly Stone's "Higher," the entire Santana set, and (I believe) Mississippi Queen over Hendrix's Star Spangled Banner. But, of course, I wasn't there, so what do I know.
#24
November 9, 2011 9:27 AM - Slopefarm
Tyger, tyger, burning bright

(Sorry, is drug-induced romantic poetry off limits for this game?)
#25
November 9, 2011 9:29 AM - Deleted
it's nice waking up semi-early. i feel wide awake now
#26
November 9, 2011 9:29 AM - Slopefarm
Oh, and it's "Big girls don't cry" by the Four Seasons, but "Good Girls Don't" by The Knack. "Cry" is not the implicit word after "don't" in The Knack's song.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:29 AM
#27
November 9, 2011 9:31 AM - dibs
Where you even born then, Slopey? I have two friends who went to Woodstock.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:31 AM
#28
November 9, 2011 9:32 AM - dibs
Yes, sorry, "Big girls"
#29
November 9, 2011 9:32 AM - Donatella

Big Girls don't cry was my first 45.

I having a cup of coffee in Tillies now. I wouldn't describe the clientele of this place as hipsters, exactly. They look like the self-employed/unemployed job seekers. But this place is FILTHY. I am not a clean freak, but they seem to be proud of this grubby ambiance. The windows are dirty, the trash cans covered with coffee, crumbs on every table, curled notices hanging from a massive store long bulletin board.
#30
November 9, 2011 9:34 AM - dibs
Tilly was an old drag queen in Chicago years ago.

Tillies sounds just as unapetizing!!!!
#31
November 9, 2011 9:35 AM - More4Less
DIBS, haven't you got used to expecting then seeing this yo-yo action in the mkt?? this crap has been happening a while already. Just hold on tight to the espresso during the ride
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:35 AM
#32
November 9, 2011 9:36 AM - DeLepp
dona, better go for a tetanus shot. There is a much better place next store that recently opened with great pastries on vanderbilt.
Tillies is an "institution", god knows why.
#33
November 9, 2011 9:36 AM - Donatella


It's gross. It reminds me of some kind of college hangout, which wears its filthiness like a badge of moral superiority. They do poetry readings and such here at night.
#34
November 9, 2011 9:36 AM - More4Less
Donatella, you should hang out in Baggetteaboutit which is around the corner on Vanderbilt - unless it aint open yet
#35
November 9, 2011 9:37 AM - dibs
dona, if I lived near you I'd be at the McDonalds for a sausage biscuit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#36
November 9, 2011 9:37 AM - More4Less
twice, Tillies served me coffee with had that burnt taste. no more. NFW.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:37 AM
#37
November 9, 2011 9:38 AM - dibs
"They do poetry readings and such here at night."


Uggghhhhhh, enough to keep me from ever walking in
#38
November 9, 2011 9:38 AM - Slopefarm
I was six, then, so that's why I'm limited to the movie. I grew up in Rockland County and my parents were into folk music. They naively took some of the Woodstock posters at face value ("Folk Festival" "Joan Baez" "Arlo Guthrie") and contemplated loading me and my sister, who was three at the time, into the family (faux-wood paneled Oldsmobile) wagon and driving up there for the day. Decided against it when they heard about all the traffic. Don't think they knew about the acid, Hendrix, etc. I've always wondered what if we actually went.
#39
November 9, 2011 9:38 AM - More4Less
DIBS, am annoyed that McD's often only does that 2 for $3 special on the english muffin sandwiches but not the biscuit ones
#40
November 9, 2011 9:40 AM - Donatella

I saw that on the way over, DeLepp. I am going to check that out. There is a beautiful coffee shoppey kind of place (with good food) right off Grand on Clifton. I is called Urban Vintage. They sell antiquey things and have tables mixed in with antiques and it is really pretty. They advertise free Wifi which doesn't seem to work consistently though. It seems like if you advertise wifi you would want it to work.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:40 AM
#41
November 9, 2011 9:40 AM - dibs
m4l, if you are eating 2 of those, you're going to have serious health problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One is MORE than enough.

Their english muffins are CRAP, the biscuits not. And anything with that FAKE EGG PRODUCT is just awful
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:40 AM
#42
November 9, 2011 9:42 AM - Donatella

My mother said to me recently, "Are you mad at me that I wouldn't 'let' you go to Woodstock"? ha. I thought it was because I couldn't get a ride.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:42 AM
#43
November 9, 2011 9:44 AM - More4Less
T-Bill yields are mad ass low again so re-fi folks
#44
November 9, 2011 9:46 AM - DeLepp
dona, there are a couple of little gems over there with food/groceries.
#45
November 9, 2011 9:46 AM - Donatella

Yes, I saw that M4L. It is open. And the coffee here at Tillies sucks too.

Sausage sandwich at McD's. GAKK. I have never considered Burger King or McDonalds real food. (so what's with you and the sausage, dibs?)
#46
November 9, 2011 9:48 AM - DeLepp
the sausage biscuit is good for hangovers, especially the biscuit, dry so that you consume more water/pepsi to alleviate brain.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:48 AM
#47
November 9, 2011 9:49 AM - dibs
If you like sausage and you like biscuits, you will like the McD sausage biscuit.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:49 AM
#48
November 9, 2011 9:49 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
i read my a read a poem at a poetry reading once and i was the only one who read who got zero applause :(

*rob*

#49
November 9, 2011 9:49 AM - Donatella


I have actually started WALKING around the hood a little lately. Since there is absolutely NO street parking anymore with AY construction, I just leave it parked during the week unless I really need it. I actually took the bus to BH's on Sunday.
Look at what I am doing to save the planet!! WALKING!!!!
#50
November 9, 2011 9:49 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"And the coffee here at Tillies sucks too."

Ooh, that's too bad, used to be really good when BH lived over there. : (
#51
November 9, 2011 9:50 AM - Slopefarm
LOL, dona. Sounds like your mom is getting older and is forgetting what she lied to you about when you were younger. Kind of like when my grandmother started forgetting that she lied about her age.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:50 AM
#52
November 9, 2011 9:51 AM - dibs
dona, where would you park if you drove to BH???? I can park in front of my house almost anytime I want to but if I go anywhere like PS or BH or BoCoCa, NO PARKING.

Besides, wherever I go drinking is usually involved
#53
November 9, 2011 9:51 AM - Donatella


Re bad Tillie's coffee, I think it goes with not cleaning things..... unless you clean out those coffee makers periodically, you have acidic crud buildup which gets into the coffee. That plus they are probably cheap and buying the floor sweepings brand of beans.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:51 AM
#54
November 9, 2011 9:52 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I've decided that next year I'm going to start lying about my age. I'm going to say I'm 10 years older than I really am, so I can listen to people tell me how good I look for "my age". : P
#55
November 9, 2011 9:53 AM - BoerumHillScott
Sausage biscuits are about the only thing I will eat from McDonald's
#56
November 9, 2011 9:53 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
It seems like if you advertise wifi you would want it to work.

no, you dont. otherwise your coffeeshop is going to be filled with laptop hobos who hardly spend any money keeping paying customers away since there's no seats. i think the ambience of the coffee shop is so tarnished these days, if i wanted to walk into a computer lab i'd take a class at MIT or something.

*rob*

#57
November 9, 2011 9:54 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Tillie's beans used to be really good, too. Sigh. Maybe she's taken to buying lower quality.
#58
November 9, 2011 9:54 AM - dibs
Cobble, I've lied about my age. I met a japanese guy who was clearly into much older guys than what I was at the time.
#59
November 9, 2011 9:55 AM - dibs
no, you dont. otherwise your coffeeshop is going to be filled with laptop hobos who hardly spend any money keeping paying customers away since there's no seats. i think the ambience of the coffee shop is so tarnished these days, if i wanted to walk into a computer lab i'd take a class at MIT or something.

*rob*

ONCE AGAIN, I totally agree with rob
#60
November 9, 2011 9:55 AM - Donatella
Slopey, I thought it was funny because it may be her oldster thinking but I think she always had an exaggerated sense of her ability to control my teenage and young adult behavior. I was pretty much doing whatever I wanted then but I guess I maintained a good front of listening to her. "Yeah, Ma, ok...yeah, right..right."
#61
November 9, 2011 9:56 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
DIBS, Did he tell you how good you looked for "your age"? Did he buy it?
#62
November 9, 2011 9:56 AM - DeLepp
I've got friends who must assume the world has cateracts.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:56 AM
#63
November 9, 2011 9:57 AM - Donatella
Dibs: ONCE AGAIN.....I totally agree with *rob*.

lol
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:57 AM
#64
November 9, 2011 9:57 AM - Slopefarm
Luring customers with the promise of faulty wifi is kind of like lying about your age. Actually, kind of genius. They've already bought the coffee before they leave in a fit of anger. Not good for repeat business, however.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:57 AM
#65
November 9, 2011 9:59 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
HELP! Due to a bad gray kitty who shall remain nameless, my leather jacket has a small tear. The tear doesn't go through the whole coat, but just the surface leather near a seam. Know any good, reasonably priced leather repair places in Brooklyn, preferably in the Slope area? HELP!
#66
November 9, 2011 10:00 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Have I mentioned that I have little cataracts? It's a little freaky when I think about it. The eye doctor told me that I'll know when I need the surgery before he will. And he told me that by the time I need the surgery to remove the cataracts it may be possible to have little lenses inserted that will actually correct my vision to 20/20 — which is not possible now with my vision issues. But the whole idea of eye surgery of any kind freaks me out.
#67
November 9, 2011 10:00 AM - Slopefarm
Funny, dona. Well i was six so I couldn't bum a ride with any of my friends even if I knew what Woodstock was. Although at a certain point, a Schwinn is probably the only way anyone could have made it to woodstock. Lord knows you weren't going to get there in a car. "The New York State Thruway's closed, man!"
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:00 AM
#68
November 9, 2011 10:01 AM - Donatella

If I were driving to BHs, dibs, I would park very north on Henry Street. Or anywhere on Henry actually. They have meters and I would only drive there at night anyway. They also have a parking lot in the Cadman Plaza houses where Xing is buying. It's not expensive. I go to church there on Sunday night and I park illegally. ok, so tow me.
#69
November 9, 2011 10:01 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oh dear, sorry Snaps. Betting Arkady will know.
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:01 AM
#70
November 9, 2011 10:02 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
dont you work in manhattan? tailors are much better and more professional in manhattan, especially in lower manhattan, than anything youre gonna find in brooklyn, especially THAT part of brooklyn. same thing with dentists, doctors, and hookers.


*rob*

#71
November 9, 2011 10:02 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
DonaT, it's ok to park illegally when going to church...just pray it off while you are in there :-)
#72
November 9, 2011 10:03 AM - dibs
Is parking illegally a sin??
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:03 AM
#73
November 9, 2011 10:03 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Cobble, I almost wrung her neck this morning. But I suppose it's partially my fault. When I got home yesterday I just slung the jacket over the back of the living room chair instead of hanging it up like I usually do/should have. She likes to nap up there. Sigh.
#74
November 9, 2011 10:05 AM - Donatella

Re age, I was in a library (another spot for laptop hobos) and some decrepit, indigent looking lady ordered me to put a folded piece of paper under the wobbly table leg. Ostensibly because she was old and obese and I was a young'un, spry and easily ordered around. I told her my age as I sprung up and she said you are 2 years older than me! Then I felt I had the authority to "shhh" her when she started reading aloud to herself.

I need an office.
#75
November 9, 2011 10:05 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
so this morning i woke up and noticed there's scoffolding gonna be covering my living room and bedroom windows :-/

*rob*



#76
November 9, 2011 10:07 AM - dibs
rob, cover your windows with aluminum foil
#77
November 9, 2011 10:08 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Dave, you, ya pompous asshat, don't have a leather repair place for me? Nothing???
#78
November 9, 2011 10:08 AM - Donatella


Parking illegally in front of a church during services is another one of the unenforced parking crimes. The others are double parking on cleaning day only for the cleaning hours and only on one way streets. There are a whole bunch of unenforced commerical parking crimes, i.e. double parking anywhere at any time. These are the unwritten laws unaccounted for in bike lane policy.
#79
November 9, 2011 10:10 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I was in a library (another spot for laptop hobos)

not to mention regular old hobos as well. this why i never go to any of the public libraries in nyc. if the bedbugs dont get you the headlice will!

*rob*

#80
November 9, 2011 10:10 AM - dibs
No, Snappy, I don't I don't leave my leather chaps around to get clawed by some pussy.

You might want to ask at some of the better shoe repair places..mostly in Manhattan though.
#81
November 9, 2011 10:11 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
LOL!
#82
November 9, 2011 10:11 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Sigh. Fine. I'll ask over there --->
#83
November 9, 2011 10:12 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I almost wrung her neck this morning."

Tempting as it may be...shame on that little rotter!
#84
November 9, 2011 10:12 AM - lechacal
Arizona is the Florida of California.
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:12 AM
#85
November 9, 2011 10:15 AM - lechacal
The room where Cain had hiss press conference yesterday is now full of old people being swindled somehow by someone, and / or something religious.
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:15 AM
#86
November 9, 2011 10:15 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
just get some black electrical tape. no one will be the wiser. i repaired a pair of grey jeans with grey duct tape and it looks fine. i fixed a pair of shoes with acrylic paints. im refuse to pay to people to do things that can do myself.



*rob*

Edited at November 9, 2011 10:15 AM
#87
November 9, 2011 10:16 AM - Slopefarm
Is our favorite penguin around? I've been noticing that there's someone with a penguin avatar who comments regularly in Slate comments threads. Wondering if that's a relative of CGar's.
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:16 AM
#88
November 9, 2011 10:17 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
The forum has a ton of new categories over there. Most notably, perhaps, is "Family and Parenting." Color me surprised!
#89
November 9, 2011 10:19 AM - dibs
Maybe you should post there, Snappy. Perhaps if you were a better parent and taught those cats how to behave properly, you wouldn't be in this predicament.
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:19 AM
#90
November 9, 2011 10:19 AM - Slopefarm
LOL, snaps, but if Mr. B thought the OT was too much to handle, I doubt he's going to go after the Park Slope Parents market share. May as well turn Smorgasburg into a food coop.
#91
November 9, 2011 10:19 AM - DeLepp
well if the WSJ can have parenting column...
#92
November 9, 2011 10:20 AM - lechacal
Looks like the market got some surprise Italian buttsecks this morning.
#93
November 9, 2011 10:21 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Ha!

I did post there jackass! And my kitties are.....oh wait...they aren't well trained. Nevermind!
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:20 AM
#94
November 9, 2011 10:23 AM - Slopefarm
"well if the WSJ can have parenting column..."

Dear WSJ parent columnist: The driver of the Lincoln Town Car that drops me home at 11 each night slams the door too hard and wakes my 2-yeasr-old kid up. Should I tell the driver or have him fired? And should I play with my kid or help him get back to sleep?

Edited at November 9, 2011 10:23 AM
#95
November 9, 2011 10:23 AM - dibs
Someone mentioned buttsecks????
#96
November 9, 2011 10:25 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Dear Sleepless in the TownCar:

Grow a pair and tell the driving to stop slamming the effin' door. If he persists in doing so, drag him upstairs by his cauliflower ear and make him read little Johnny back to sleep and take the trash from the kitchen with him on his way out. Damn Park Slope pansies...

:-)
#97
November 9, 2011 10:26 AM - Slopefarm
Dear brownstoner parent advice columnist: My kid keeps putting recessed lighting and metal window frames in his Lincoln Log cabins. How do I keep LPC from finding out?
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:26 AM
#98
November 9, 2011 10:27 AM - dibs
Dear Sleepless in the Town Car:

Shut the fucking car door yourself you lazy entitled jackass. Who the hell waits for the driver to get out and open the car door?

There was no mention of a husband. I assume he left you.


#99
November 9, 2011 10:28 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ROFL
November 9, 2011 10:28 AM - Deleted
"Shut the fucking car door yourself you lazy entitled jackass. Who the hell waits for the driver to get out and open the car door? "

the last two times i've taken a car home the driver has hopped out to open the door. its really awkward.
November 9, 2011 10:30 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Dear Lincoln Logged:

Head over to Bensonhurst and ask around for Johnny No-Thumbs. Tell him you've got a job for him. The LPC won't be a problem anymore. And by the way, what the hell is wrong with you, forcing your kid to play with lincoln logs in this day and age? Buy the little bastard some legos so his friends will stop making fun of him.
November 9, 2011 10:32 AM - dibs
Dear Poorly Behaved Cat Owner:

Lincoln logs were good enough for me.


November 9, 2011 10:32 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Dear Elitist Oyster Eatin' Jackass:

Blow it out yer ditty bag.
November 9, 2011 10:33 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Oh, sorry, I forgot the :-)
November 9, 2011 10:34 AM - lechacal
Hahaha the old people are some kind of meditation group. They are literally going to spend all day meditating. Yesterday Herman Cain, today all day meditation.
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:34 AM
November 9, 2011 10:34 AM - dibs
Dear Scratched Leather Jacket Biatch:

There's a spot being saved for you in Zucotti park, right next to the hobos.
November 9, 2011 10:35 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Dear Ancient Dildo Collecting Fucktard:

Your mama wears combat boots!

:-)
November 9, 2011 10:35 AM - lechacal
The poster out front says something about alchemy and how they are all going to master their ascension.
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:35 AM
November 9, 2011 10:38 AM - dibs
Dear Picky Eating Lesbo:

One more crack about my mother and I'm gonna get bxgrl to knock your teeth out
November 9, 2011 10:38 AM - Arkady
Dear Lincoln Logged: Are the logs vintage, antique? If you just bought a brand new set it's no wonder he's building parvenu Fedders.
November 9, 2011 10:38 AM - dibs
Alchemy is the work of the devil. they won't be ascending anywhere.
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:38 AM
November 9, 2011 10:39 AM - Arkady
Lech - Is your office in Mississippi?
November 9, 2011 10:40 AM - dibs
Paterno To Retire After Season Ends
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:40 AM
November 9, 2011 10:41 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ROFLMMFAO!

Ok, Dave, you win! I'm seriously howling with laughter over here and better cut it out before they start to wonder what's going on and catch on to the fact that I'm not working in here (trust me, my cases aren't at all funny). tee hee hee!
November 9, 2011 10:45 AM - Donatella


Snappy, there is a shoe/leather place on 39th St. near where I used to work. 39th between 3rd and Lex. The people there are great and fixed shoes for me (spike heels which kept getting stuck in cracks in sidewalk and got all chewed up). They did a great job. They also fixed the handles on a handbag. They seem to be experts in leather, stitching etc and I don't know where you are. If you are near the brooklyn courts, there is a great place on Montague (actually this may be the best for you). They guy is Russian and has done all kinds of custom shoe making (made shoes for opera productions), knows every kind of leather. He is a character but I bet he could fix your rip.
November 9, 2011 10:46 AM - DeadCatBounce
Snappy, you impressed the hell out of me!
November 9, 2011 10:47 AM - Donatella


Snappy it is between Henry and Clinton on the North side of Montegue. I forget the name but it is a ground floor store with a large store window.
November 9, 2011 10:48 AM - dibs
I dedicate this song to Snappy...

"Torn between Two Lovers"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1F5BLLFAeM
November 9, 2011 10:48 AM - Slopefarm
OK, arkady, next time I get my Lincoln Logs at Eddie's, not Home Depot.

In all seriousness, my daughter, who is well past the Lincoln Logs phase, has been talking architecture and design with me of late (i.e., which friends have cool houses or apartments and which do not). Her taste is distinctly modernist -- likes lofts, big windows, sleep lines, hates old stuff. She still remembers the conference room at my last law firm, with the big glass table and big windows 30 floors up. I need to take her to see some Louis Kahn buildings.
November 9, 2011 10:50 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
DCB, why thanks! But what did I do???

DonaT, thanks, I'll likely use the guy in Brooklyn...I'm allergic to midtown :-)

Hey jackass, I love that song!
November 9, 2011 10:51 AM - Slopefarm
"I dedicate this song to Snappy..."

Not Boots of Spanish Leather? Or Papa's Got a Brand New Bag?


Edited at November 9, 2011 10:51 AM
November 9, 2011 10:52 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ROFL!!!
November 9, 2011 10:53 AM - dibs
Slopey, a friend of mine in Chicago owns this home designed by Tadao Ando.....
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:53 AM
November 9, 2011 10:58 AM - Slopefarm
Nice, dibs, though tough call on whether the farmhand would like that. Big risk she'd want to use that plain front wall as a canvas for op art patterns in neon.
November 9, 2011 11:11 AM - rf
From a facebook friend.
November 9, 2011 11:17 AM - More4Less
Can't wait till Sunday rolls around and see the NYC teams dish out some serious spanking
Edited at November 9, 2011 11:32 AM
November 9, 2011 11:33 AM - Slopefarm
Wow, some powerful threadkillers: the threat of neon paint on minimalist architecture and football talk.
November 9, 2011 11:34 AM - dibs
I think that most of today's malaise can be blamed on Italy.
November 9, 2011 11:36 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Wow, this looks interesting...

Tour the Japanese House
http://ditmasparkblog.com/neighborhood-history/tour-the-japanese-house
November 9, 2011 11:45 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
(Geez, another threadkiller! I thought an interesting HOUSE might appeal to ex-Brownstoners!)
November 9, 2011 11:47 AM - Slopefarm
DP, dibs is going to keep blaming Italy until benson shows up to liven things up around here.
Edited at November 9, 2011 11:47 AM
November 9, 2011 11:48 AM - dibs
It gave me The Vapors. I think I'm turning japanese.
Edited at November 9, 2011 11:48 AM
November 9, 2011 11:55 AM - Slopefarm
You really think so, dibs?
November 9, 2011 11:56 AM - dibs
Yes, but my friend actually has a Japanese boyfriend!!!!!!!!

Have you bento that house, DCB???
Edited at November 9, 2011 11:57 AM
November 9, 2011 11:56 AM - DeadCatBounce
cobble, that house is a lot more interesting than the mausoleum in which dibs' friend in interred.
November 9, 2011 11:59 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
This is a poor choice for punning, please change it for my sake, DIBS.
November 9, 2011 12:01 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Btw, here is MM's write-up on the house.

http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2011/01/building-of-the-216/
Edited at November 9, 2011 12:01 PM
November 9, 2011 12:01 PM - dibs
Hirame out on this one, Cobble.
November 9, 2011 12:04 PM - Slopefarm
"Have you bento that house"

Needs a new interior paint job. Last owners used tempura paints on the walls, for goodness sake.
November 9, 2011 12:04 PM - dibs
I'm trying to have a soba discussion with you so lay off the sake.
Edited at November 9, 2011 12:04 PM
November 9, 2011 12:05 PM - dibs
Nori a day goes buy without a good punfest.
November 9, 2011 12:07 PM - Donatella


Re the Japanese House, Benson took MM and I on a tour of greater South and South Central Brooklyn. We stopped by this house and MM snapped a lot of pictures. Apparantly this is part of a little enclave built by the same builder of various different style houses I think in the 1920s. Think that's the time period. MM wrote up the story on this house on that other site. For me.....the colors are wierd and not Japanese at all and the house is a curiosity, but not particularly pretty. It might be nice to see the inside.

By the way, I am giving up on the idea of finding an "external office" since nothing quite works, the coffee is awful everywhere (I make great coffee at home), and other public places, gross. I looked for office space and there are various drop in places which I might look into (15-20 dollars a day) or down in Dumbo there are places for 350-400 a month which are real offices. But for now, I am making an office area here and hoping I can establish some discipline and not start doing other things here.
November 9, 2011 12:09 PM - Deleted
There is a firestorm brewing at Cooper Union. People are becoming livid to learn how dire the financial situation is there, and how the institution's previous president and the Board of Trustees were a) not transparent about the situation and b) made an incredibly poor decision regarding the upgrade of its building stock. Cooper Union has a new president, and it is only with his arrival have the facts come out, as such:

-the school has had a significant structural deficit for over twenty years, and has been drawing upon its endowment during that time to make up the difference. Given its need for income, its endowment is heavily titled towards income-producing real estate. Not much allocation for growth.

-despite this situation, the Board of Trustees authorized the construction of a new building for the engineering school in 2006. It was intended to replace the 1950-ish, plain-vanilla engineering building with one designed by a starchitect. You can see the new building at Cooper Square - it makes a "statement", and that statement cost a very pretty penny.

-the Board of Trustees launched a capital campaign to finance the new building. The capital campaign fell short - a fact that has just come out. More incredibly, they decided to take out a $175 Million dollar loan to go forth with the building. The Board of Trustees does not explain why they didn't make the decision to scale down its plan. i.e. just upgrade the existing engineering building. The net result is that debt service now represents 17% of their expenses, and the school has a structural deficit of 27%.

I fear for the future of Cooper Union as an independent institution. It has dug a very deep hole for itself. As reported, it is now considering to institute a tuition. If it charges tuition, however, it will be losing its key competitive weapon in attracting bright students.
November 9, 2011 12:11 PM - Donatella


oh didn't see Cobbles post of MM's article. So it was built earlier than I thought -- turn of century -- last century that is.
The original looks more Japanese. The paint is horrible now. Just wierd.
Edited at November 9, 2011 12:11 PM
November 9, 2011 12:13 PM - Donatella


That's too bad, Benson. Sorry to hear that.
November 9, 2011 12:17 PM - Slopefarm
That's all bad news, benson. Do you see the new president as someone who is trying to unearth all this to try and right the ship, to the extenmt possible, or continuation of the problem? Sounds like they need a sober long term plan. Maybe tuition could be temporary -- do it a few years to save the institution, with a longer-term plan to get back to free. Is the board actively idiotic or rubber stamp for bad advice and decisions? Any chance of the engineering contingent of alumni rallying around a combination of major change coupled with a fundraising rescue effort?
November 9, 2011 12:22 PM - BoerumHillScott
Large endowments can be a curse at times, since they allow major structural problems to grow while projecting a message of "Don't worry, we have plenty of money"
November 9, 2011 12:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
benson, There is a meeting going on today with the President of Cooper. A friend of mine is going, and hopes to give some advice on the financial situation. I'm looking forward to hearing about it: the general tone, and what the new president has to say.

The new building is also NOT just for the engineering school, other departments share it. The engineering and computer folks were shocked by some of the omissions by the architects. And they had to fight pretty hard to have those deficiencies corrected before and during the build.
Edited at November 9, 2011 12:25 PM
November 9, 2011 12:25 PM - Deleted
Slopey;

As I mentioned before, Cooper has done a pretty poor job of maintaining relations with its engineering alumni in particular (who, frankly speaking, likely have more wealth than the artists or perhaps even the architects). The school's administration was totally in love with the NYC arts scene. The joke among the engineering alumni is how we wouldn't get caught dead at one of Cooper's fundraising affairs. Even the newsletter is totally tone-deaf to the sensibilities of most engineers. It's full of stories about so-and-so's exhibition. Nothing wrong with that per se, but it just is not going to interest the engineering alumni by and large.

The new president has my sympathy. He just walked into this mess, and he took the first necessary step in any correction: transparency. He's got a huge task ahead of him, and hopefully he can come up with something to right the ship.

As for the Board, they have my contempt. They wrote a letter yesterday in which they came clean about the loan and reminded that they do have the school's interests at heart. Wow - what a revelation.
Edited at November 9, 2011 12:25 PM
November 9, 2011 12:32 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Cooper Union has a new president, and it is only with his arrival have the facts come out, as such:"

Not entirely true, much of this was known as it happened within the school community. Not sure how much was known outside/to the public.
November 9, 2011 12:34 PM - Slopefarm
Benson, I was thinking of your earlier comments about the engineering alums. In light of your comments I would not expect them to just open up their checkbooks. It seems the school needs both $$ infusion and a change of course. [I know, this is starting to sound like Greece and the Euro zone, but still.] I went to NYU law, so I've seen close up how a school's dean/president can tap heavily into previously untapped alum resources. It seems to me the smart move is to try to find a way to use both a plan and pivot the tone of the outreach to appeal to the constituency with the $$. Just wondering if that constituency can be won back with "we are developing a serious plan to save the school. We'd like your input and major involvement in shaping it and then, when we've worked it out, we'd like you to help fund." Also a way to identify future board members from that constituency.
Edited at November 9, 2011 12:34 PM
November 9, 2011 12:34 PM - Deleted
Cobble;

OK, I'll take your word for it that it was known within the school community itself. It was not broadcast to the alumni, that I can tell you. I've received more e-mails from Cooper in the past 3 days trying to respond to the firestorm and coming clean than I normally receive in 1/2 year.
November 9, 2011 12:38 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"It was not broadcast to the alumni"

Well, I'm sure the past president and alumni dept didn't want to "advertise" these facts.

Re: firestorm — Oh yeah, that's for sure. Well, all I can say about that is, I'm hearing more about it than ever, myself, right now from my two sources.
November 9, 2011 12:40 PM - Deleted
2nd round interview next week!
November 9, 2011 12:40 PM - DeadCatBounce
Snappy, when I was growing up, the kids used to say " Your Mama wears hob-nail boots".
That was a sure way to start a fight.
To this day I have no idea what a hob-nail boot is.
November 9, 2011 12:41 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Fantastic news, DH! Congrats!
November 9, 2011 12:41 PM - Deleted
Congrats, and good luck, DH. Go get 'em!
November 9, 2011 12:42 PM - rf
DCB, when I was a kid it was "your mother wears combat boots!"
November 9, 2011 12:42 PM - rf
Yay, DH! Congratulations!
November 9, 2011 12:42 PM - ij
There aren't really a lot of homeless people in most public libraries, except the ones near big transit hubs. There are a lot of down on their luck people who dress shabby, but are perfectly pleasant. Rob, you would be mistaken for such a person were you to visit.
Edited at November 9, 2011 12:42 PM
November 9, 2011 12:42 PM - Deleted
thanks! hopefully after this i can put away the suit for another 3 years
Edited at November 9, 2011 12:42 PM
November 9, 2011 12:43 PM - ij
DH, sweet!
November 9, 2011 12:43 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"we are developing a serious plan to save the school. We'd like your input and major involvement"

Something like that is going on, as we write here, internally there. I spoke with someone going to that meeting just this morning. It suggests to me that the new president is reaching out.
November 9, 2011 12:46 PM - rf
From College Major to Career
Choosing the right college major can make a big difference in students' career prospects, in terms of employment and pay. Here’s a look at how various college majors fare in the job market, based on 2010 Census data. Some popular majors, such as nursing and finance, do particularly well, with unemployment under 5% and high salaries during the course of their careers.
http://graphicsweb.wsj.com/documents/NILF1111/#term=
November 9, 2011 12:50 PM - Slopefarm
Good luck, dh!! And I'm with you. The sooner I shed the monkey suit, the happier I am.
November 9, 2011 12:51 PM - BoerumHillScott
Interesting study.

I think charts like that should be mandatory reading for anyone who goes into college, but much academic establishment would have a heart attack at the thought that people should base their academic decisions on what will get them a decent job.


November 9, 2011 1:01 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I'm baaaaaaack!

Slopey, perhaps you can feel my pain on this one. Just went down to the subpoenad records room, only to find that for the second time in a row, the party who received the subpoena misread it and provided the wrong documents AGAIN. Illiterate jackasses. Argh!
November 9, 2011 1:07 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Hello? Anybody home?
November 9, 2011 1:08 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Disappearing jackasses! Argh!
November 9, 2011 1:09 PM - Donatella


That is an interesting chart, rf. I noticed that there is 0% unemployment for actuarial science and that profession is up there on the pay scale. I can attest to the fact that these people are golden.....in so many environments. Energy trading companies have these people pricing complex derivatives and reinsurance products and they are always worth their weight in gold. And if they actually have a personality? Wow. They are carried through the streets in a liter.

Congratulations, DH!!! Go get 'em!!
November 9, 2011 1:28 PM - Deleted
Notice how much petroleum engineers make. Same was true when I was coming out of engineering school. If you want to make a lot of money, get a degree in petroleum engineering and then go work for a company like Exxon. You will spend the next 10-15 years of your life in various parts of the world, but you will come back a rich person.
Edited at November 9, 2011 1:28 PM
November 9, 2011 1:31 PM - dibs
Yes, selling your soul to a greedy oil company can be quite rewarding. Otherwise, get a sociology degree and whine in Zucotti park.
November 9, 2011 1:37 PM - Legion
"Yes, selling your soul to a greedy oil company can be quite rewarding. Otherwise, get a sociology degree and whine in Zucotti park."

DIBS,

You bring up an interesting moral/ethical question.
Is it any less moral to pursue a career with the certitude of monetary gain,
than to pursue a career with very little projected monetary gain, then
to turn around and blame society for your predicament and lack of funding?

To the point where the individual decides that he/she should seek to undermine the
established society to remedy their situation.
November 9, 2011 1:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
giant whiney ass article in this weeks voice about students at NYU and their loans.

. <--- there's my violin for them.

*rob*

Edited at November 9, 2011 1:38 PM
November 9, 2011 1:39 PM - Donatella

Benson, one of the reason for the high wages for petroleum engineers is that in the 1980s and 1990s, the US Oil industry went through a period of retrenchment and downsizing and consequently not many were going into that discipline. I don't know what the age average is for that engineering specialty but it is solidly middle-aged. The industry needs more now, particularly with the "Renaissance" of North American energy (though many environmentalists aren't happy about it.)
Edited at November 9, 2011 1:39 PM
November 9, 2011 1:41 PM - Legion
"I noticed that there is 0% unemployment for actuarial science and that profession is up there on the pay scale. "

...the key word there is SCIENCE.
When the word science meets the world of political posturing,
any notion of scientific method seems to become a pose for political expediency.

Case in point:
The Obamacare overhaul and it's total disregard for the idea of actuarial science as a predictor for
healthcare needs in the general population.
Why consider making the science work for us to maximize utility, when we can simply give everyone everything
they want and print up a bunch of money?
November 9, 2011 1:41 PM - Deleted
Something dawned on me last night about this OWS situation (given what I've had to do to obtain insurance for my mother-in-law's house after only one incident): HOW is Brookfield Property's insurance company standing still for this situation? That park is private property, and surely they must have insurance. Already there have been crimes there, raising Brookfield's exposure. There must be some interesting meetings going on between their management and their insurance company!!
November 9, 2011 1:41 PM - BoerumHillScott
I think there is a message in society that says art is a higher calling than science, therefore if you want to be a more superior being you should pursue artistic endeavors at the expense of practical ones.

This goes totally against the other message in society that says the more material goods yo have, the better you are.
Edited at November 9, 2011 1:41 PM
November 9, 2011 1:42 PM - Donatella


P.S. The last oil refinery in the US was built in 1976.
November 9, 2011 1:42 PM - dibs
Legion, the government has made some pretty clear decisions as to who is too big to fail and who is not. These people looking for a bailout is rather ridiculous.

I've lost some money on various stocks. Should I be down there protesting as well??

It's calle RESPONSIBILITY and most young people today don't understand the word [wagging cane ferociously]


November 9, 2011 1:44 PM - Deleted
sigh, dibs

November 9, 2011 1:44 PM - Deleted
Donatella;

Petroleum engineers have always been well-paid for as long as I can remember. I think part of the reason is that they must live in the field: Saudi Arabia, Libya, etc.
November 9, 2011 1:45 PM - Donatella
Benson, re Zuccotti Park. It is basically a cement slab with benches and trees. It is also pretty tiny. It has a sculpture (the bronze figure reading a newspaper on a bench with a briefcase on the bench). That's about it.
November 9, 2011 1:47 PM - Deleted
Nn matter how tiny, it is private property. How is Brookfield not liable for the attacks on women there, for instance?
November 9, 2011 1:48 PM - Donatella

A friend of mine worked in Colorado as a Petroleum Engineer. I have no idea why but he switched to being a financial engineer and he is now a risk manager working for a bank, running around slapping the wrists of traders, trying to keep them on the straight and narrow. I think I'd rather be a Petroleum Engineer.

November 9, 2011 1:48 PM - Legion
Art may be more refined way of subsisting in society,
considering it flourishes in advanced societies, but let's keep in mind such examples of DiVinci who made a good living designing military weapons as a side line or William Faulkner who shoveled coal for a living while writing As I Lay Dying.
Edited at November 9, 2011 1:48 PM
November 9, 2011 1:50 PM - Legion
don't worry,
it won't be long before some of the OWS protesters "lawyer-up" and sue the city for everything
from getting maced to having to endure horrific odors for extended periods of time.
Edited at November 9, 2011 1:50 PM
November 9, 2011 1:51 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
It's a public space on private property. There are lots of these in NYC. The owners get breaks for creating public spaces. Though some are more or less accessible or known than others.

WNYC just had a program on this today. With a guest who is the author of this book: Privately Owned Public Space : The New York City Experience — http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471362573/wnycorg-20/

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/blogs/scrapbook/2011/oct/19/pops-report-tell-us-about-new-york-citys-privately-owned-public-spaces/
Edited at November 9, 2011 1:52 PM
November 9, 2011 1:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Brookfield should be responsible for my shit getting stolen down there too!! is there a way to sue them? there's definitely lawsuits already in the works tho for the rape(s) im sure. well maybe not. im sure at some point a fire or something will break out and a few deaths will occur, then lawyer daddy and executive bitch mommy from back im bumblefee falls will be suing the city.

*rob*

Edited at November 9, 2011 1:51 PM
November 9, 2011 1:52 PM - BoerumHillScott
I wonder what the legal liability issues are for a space like Zuccotti Park that is offered as a free amenity to the public with no commercial purpose.
Any lawyers care to chime in?
November 9, 2011 1:53 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
What a cynical bunch.
November 9, 2011 1:56 PM - Deleted
Where's Slopey when you need him?
November 9, 2011 1:57 PM - dibs
I hear that there's a massive protest brewing by the 2-4% at Gramercy Park. Apparently when the 1% weren't looking they somehow got a key. it's causing a massive disruption of the Fall bulb planting schedule
Edited at November 9, 2011 1:57 PM
November 9, 2011 1:58 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
11.11.11 is Occupy Central Park. i hope this one gets violent

*rob*

November 9, 2011 2:02 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Years ago, when CH Park was being renovated, there was a faction in Cobble Hill that wanted CH Park to be 'gated', a la Gramercy Park. Fortunately, their efforts were thwarted!
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:02 PM
November 9, 2011 2:03 PM - Legion
haha dibs,
I'm picturing that scene in Caddy Shack when it's "Caddy Day" at the Country Club and the caddy's and their families descend on the unsuspecting country club pool like the Mongolian hordes on a small village.
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:03 PM
November 9, 2011 2:03 PM - BoerumHillScott
What a craptastic day for the stock market.
Are there any Italians around we can blame?
November 9, 2011 2:06 PM - Deleted
Don't look at me - I'm losing my shirt too!
November 9, 2011 2:08 PM - Legion
Occupy Central Park?

Great! Just when the Sheep Meadow was looking good again after all that re-seeding.
Let's hope they don't pee on the lawn, that kills the grass faster than beetle grubs.
November 9, 2011 2:08 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Why does that photo from Caddy Shack make me think of lech? : P
November 9, 2011 2:10 PM - Legion
yikes! down 400 pts.
Any chance of a late day rally?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/45222594
November 9, 2011 2:13 PM - dibs
isn't a special permit required to assemble in the meadow and other parts of Central park??? I think the whole OWS movement has morphed into a very selfish, loud, smelly, disorganized small group of people who are infringing on the rights of hard working, tax-paying citizens and it needs to end. If they want to get permits and march in the street then let them but too many lives are being disrupted.
November 9, 2011 2:13 PM - Donatella

Jester, you made a comment earlier about the libraries in Brooklyn. Recently I have gone to the one with expanded hours on Washington Ave. I am really impressed by that branch. It is like a community center. There are so many things going on there; young kids with parents, kids gathered in groups doing homework together after school, a large contingent of independant workers doing projects in the laptop computer center.
November 9, 2011 2:14 PM - Deleted
Damn "Club Med" countries!!
November 9, 2011 2:14 PM - rf
quote:
What a cynical bunch.

you just noticed, Cobble?
November 9, 2011 2:14 PM - ij
I have this Friday off and was going to go to the Veteran's Day Parade and then to the Mall in Central Park to read. I hope they don't occupy that part of the park.
November 9, 2011 2:14 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
DIBS, A lot more peoples' lives were disrupted when the markets crashed and they lost their jobs, homes, savings.
November 9, 2011 2:16 PM - Slopefarm
"Where's Slopey when you need him?"

Out suing insurers, where else? j/k

My guess, and I have no knowledge on this whatsoever, is Brookfield insurer is in constant discussion, but the question of what to do also raises liability risks. Their presence on the property may create an insurance risk but so might doing something about it. Sometimes inaction and careful observation is the safer bet from a liability risk perspective. I'd be shocked if the insurer is asleep on this one.


November 9, 2011 2:18 PM - Legion
"I think the whole OWS movement has morphed into a very selfish, loud, smelly, disorganized small group of people who are infringing on the rights of hard working, tax-paying citizens and it needs to end"


...yeah, this moveable feast of pure reason needs to take a long walk off a short pier.
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:18 PM
November 9, 2011 2:21 PM - dibs
"DIBS, A lot more peoples' lives were disrupted when the markets crashed and they lost their jobs, homes, savings."

A very broad sweeping comment not very focused on the cause, just like OWS.
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:21 PM
November 9, 2011 2:21 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
A lot more peoples' lives were disrupted when the markets crashed and they lost their jobs, homes, savings.

it was mostly the upper middle class it affected. personally, they are my least favorite class and in many ways the shadiest of the bunch.


*rob*

November 9, 2011 2:22 PM - Deleted
I'm not cynical. I'm actually optimistic in the long-term, for all the reasons laid out by John Poderhetz in this article:

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/the-case-for-optimism/
November 9, 2011 2:23 PM - Legion
"Why does that photo from Caddy Shack make me think of lech? : P"

...because even as we speak,
there is a determined den of intrepid beavers building a damn along the access road to his wooded property.

.
November 9, 2011 2:23 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Fuck, I hate wading into this, but my dearest jackass, whose life is being disrupted by OWS? I thought you 1%ers were happily tra-la-la-ing through the forest with nary a care about the smelly bunch in the park? I work over here 5 days a week and they aren't inconveniencing my life one bit. Who are they disrupting? Serious answer please, dear jackass :-)
November 9, 2011 2:25 PM - Legion
"it was mostly the upper middle class it affected. personally, they are my least favorite class and in many ways the shadiest of the bunch."

*rob*


haha,
yes, I think that class includes most politicians and their call girls.

.
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:25 PM
November 9, 2011 2:28 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
call girls are working class regardless of how much they make.

*rob*

Edited at November 9, 2011 2:28 PM
November 9, 2011 2:29 PM - DeLepp
well at least the OWS are not on TV as much as the damn kardashians
November 9, 2011 2:30 PM - dibs
All the people that live down there, Snappy. Have you not been paying attention to the news and all the Community Board 1 meetings????????? And all the small businesses who have had to lay off people.
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:33 PM
November 9, 2011 2:31 PM - Slopefarm
cue biff to joke about occupying Kardashians. Speaking of which, where's biff?
November 9, 2011 2:31 PM - Slopefarm
And CGar?
November 9, 2011 2:33 PM - Deleted
I would have to agree that the Kardashians are more annoying than OWS, and that's saying alot. Was there ever a face that more blatantly broadcast the message "I'm a money-loving bimbo and proud of it" than Kim's?
November 9, 2011 2:33 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
And how are they disrupting their lives??? Please elaborate.
November 9, 2011 2:34 PM - Deleted
What happened to Denton?
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:34 PM
November 9, 2011 2:34 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Not buying the business end of it. At all. And now I jump out of this ridonculous discussion!
November 9, 2011 2:34 PM - dibs
Was there ever a face that more blatantly broadcast the message "I'm a money-loving bimbo and proud of it" than Kim's?

Let us not forget Ivana Trump and Leona Helmsley although nit sure the latter could be classified as "bimbo."
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:34 PM
November 9, 2011 2:36 PM - dibs
And how are they disrupting their lives??? Please elaborate.

Are you really that out of it??? Those people haven't slept well for a month down there. When the drumming stops they get on the bullhorns. Apparently the DEP won't release the noise level work they have done.
November 9, 2011 2:36 PM - Biff Champion
I'm occupied.
November 9, 2011 2:36 PM - dibs
"Not buying the business end of it. "

Then you are clueless as to what has happened down there.
November 9, 2011 2:37 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Oh come off it, dear jackass. Go occupy a buff Asian guy and clam up ;-)
November 9, 2011 2:39 PM - Legion
Judging from some of these "reality shows"
the line between upper middle class lady and working class call girl is decidedly blurred.
...and that goes for guys as well.
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:39 PM
November 9, 2011 2:40 PM - Legion
yeah,
where's Denton?
He seems to have disappeared at about the same time as Minard had a fit of the vapors.
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:40 PM
November 9, 2011 2:41 PM - dibs
I don't want any of my hustlers masquerading as upper middle class. The rougher the trade, the better.
November 9, 2011 2:42 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
there was a big article about a woman who owns a panini shop down there... they come in and threaten her, demanding her fill up water jugs, use their bathroom. they even busted up the toilet and caused 3000 dollars in damage. this is all documented by her, and there's articles about it all over the internet. i'd imagine it's rare, but when i was there a few weeks ago, i was with some group that was harassing patrons at a mcdonalds around there. i wasnt harrassing, but they were. personally i dont think they are making THAT big of a ruckus down there in general tho. but you asked for examples, so there are a few.





*rob*

November 9, 2011 2:45 PM - Legion
How is one expected to thoroughly enjoy a sausage biscuit sandwich at mcdonald's downtown
with the incessant drumming going on?
It's enough to scramble your eggs!
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:45 PM
November 9, 2011 2:46 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Legion you nutball!
November 9, 2011 2:47 PM - dibs
I've seen the stories about her, rob.

November 9, 2011 2:48 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
but im sure snappy is sitting there with her thumbs in her ears.

*rob*

Edited at November 9, 2011 2:48 PM
November 9, 2011 2:50 PM - Deleted
hey dibs - are you going to join the banker boycott of mario batali restaurants after his hitler comments? i know you love babbo!
November 9, 2011 2:52 PM - dibs
Snappy.....
November 9, 2011 2:52 PM - dibs
What did Mario say about Hitler???


November 9, 2011 2:52 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Cute kitty!

DH, congrats on the second interview!
November 9, 2011 2:54 PM - dibs
"
I would have to say that who has had the largest effect on the whole planet without us really paying attention across the board and everywhere is the entire banking industry and their disregard for the people that are supposed to be working for them [sic]….So the ways the bankers have kind of toppled the way money is distributed and taken most of it into their hands is as good as Stalin or Hitler and the evil guys…[T]heir evil has had a huge effect on the world."

Sounds like he was drunk.




November 9, 2011 2:55 PM - dibs
"
Now we hear from sources that bankers at a bunch of major banks are telling each other to cancel all reservations at Batali's eateries, including Babbo and Del Posto, which are expense account staples for the big firms.

One bank even reportedly told staffers they wouldn't reimburse receipts from Batali's restaurants, according to Eater."

being the selfish greedy out-only-for-himself person that I am, I'm going to call to get a reservation right now!!!!!!!!!!



November 9, 2011 2:55 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Dave, I saw the most gorgeous markings on a cat ever. Go to youtube and look up 'sparta giving birth to 6 kittens.' No need to watch the birthing if you don't want, but have a look at her markings. Stunning.
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:55 PM
November 9, 2011 2:56 PM - More4Less
power outage at work and surrounding office area allowed me to drive home to work. but damn, there was a ton of road construction that I don't see during my peak commute.
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:56 PM
November 9, 2011 2:57 PM - dibs
Hitler had only one big Babbo...
Edited at November 9, 2011 2:57 PM
November 9, 2011 3:01 PM - dibs
Oh, they are, Snappy.

I always knew you had good taste in pussies even though I've never seen you with any!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:00 PM
November 9, 2011 3:01 PM - More4Less
DH, hope you seal the deal and get the gig so I can hit you up for free drinks next time.
November 9, 2011 3:02 PM - Deleted
Sounds to me like Mario is auditioning for the catering gig at OWS.
November 9, 2011 3:03 PM - dibs
dh, are you looking for a new job for more money for yourself or for the betterment of society as a whole????
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:03 PM
November 9, 2011 3:03 PM - More4Less
Benson
Scott,

this stupid mkt still looks / feels like it's in the trading range we've been in forever - ie there'll be some big up days then down ,.......
November 9, 2011 3:04 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i just ran into DH online in the meanie lady korean deli just now

*rob*

November 9, 2011 3:06 PM - Legion
M4L,
what major thoroughfares do you need to drive on routinely?

Re: Mario Batali

1. Since when do Iron Chefs opine on politics outside of not serving Chilean Sea Bass?

2. If he's gonna get on a soap box, he better take off those ridiculous orange Crocs!
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:06 PM
November 9, 2011 3:06 PM - More4Less
Rob, Korean lady told me to tell you to STFU with this on-line bitching and to say it to her face if you have any cajones btwn them legs.
November 9, 2011 3:07 PM - More4Less
Legion, all NJ routes - ie 78, 1&9, 24
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:07 PM
November 9, 2011 3:07 PM - dibs
rob, usually those meanie lady korean deli owners have a HOT son, oftentimes in medical school
November 9, 2011 3:08 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
LOL Dave! If you go towards the end of the vid, you'll see that two of her babies have similar markings. Absolutely gorgeous.
November 9, 2011 3:09 PM - dibs
Between Mario and Michael Moore, the two of them eat enough to keep 20 OWS protesters alive for a week.
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:09 PM
November 9, 2011 3:09 PM - dibs
I went through the whole video...actually 3 with the same markings
November 9, 2011 3:12 PM - BoerumHillScott
M4L, it looks to me like the market is still stuck in the same range it has been in since the early summer.

I've been doing some playing with options (mainly SPY) trying to time the ups and downs, and have made a little bit of money doing so.


Edited at November 9, 2011 3:12 PM
November 9, 2011 3:12 PM - Deleted
lol rob!

you'd all be surprised how mellow and borderline preppy rob is while at work
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:12 PM
November 9, 2011 3:13 PM - Deleted
"dh, are you looking for a new job for more money for yourself or for the betterment of society as a whole????"

i'm hoping for an unpaid internship at OWS.
November 9, 2011 3:14 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Must've missedd the third one. Just can't get over how gorgeous she is. I want one!
November 9, 2011 3:14 PM - Donatella


What HAPPENED to Mario Batali? He used to be this absolutely lovely looking, red-headed charmer with a pony tail to looking like he was run over by a fleet of trucks? Is he a substance abuser? An alcoholic? I never saw someone physically deteriorate so quickly. It's sad.
November 9, 2011 3:16 PM - Deleted
i've heard batali has a big coke problem (although aren't coke heads typically skinny?)
November 9, 2011 3:17 PM - Donatella

THAT would make sense, DH. I think skinniness would go with being a coke-head, but when you are a coke-head chef, maybe it just means that you go haywire with food too.
November 9, 2011 3:21 PM - dibs
If I'm not mistaken he's no longer an Iron Chef.
November 9, 2011 3:22 PM - Legion
Good luck with the second interview DH.
Suits aren't so bad, just wear a Public Image Limited t-shirt underneath.
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:22 PM
November 9, 2011 3:24 PM - Legion
snappy!
Can you please post a photo of this fantastic feline?
I'm curious to see it.
November 9, 2011 3:24 PM - Donatella
^^^^^^^

Hey I think I saw him earlier today at Tillies.
November 9, 2011 3:24 PM - dibs
The South Beach Wine & Food Festival's $1,000-a-plate dinner for the king and queen of Spain was gliding along elegantly, with dignitaries and guests feasting on vanguard cooking by some of Spain's most important chefs and quaffing some of its best wines.

And then the master of ceremonies, superstar chef Mario Batali, royally messed with what he himself had called a historic occasion.

''All you weasel f---wads in the back corners, can I have 10 seconds of your time?'' Batali said into the microphone, impatient that the crowd wasn't quieting quickly enough for his introduction of chef José Andrés, culinary chair of the Thursday night Biltmore Hotel gala.

Jaws dropped in a glittering crowd of 400 that included Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, U.S. Sen. Mel Martinez, the mayor of Coral Gables, the U.S. ambassador to Spain and Julio Iglesias. Gloria Estefan, enjoying the evening with husband Emilio, chortled.

Batali, wearing pants rather than shorts for once but still in his signature orange Crocs, went on with his introduction of Andrés, whom he called his ``favorite chef in the world.''

He noted that Andrés' Los Angeles restaurant, The Bazaar, had just received four stars from the Los Angeles Times.

''The most motherf------ stars of any Spanish restaurant in the U.S.,'' Batali said. Those who were seated near the royal couple said the queen blanched.



I'd say he's gone off the rails!!!!!
November 9, 2011 3:25 PM - Deleted
haha legion - thanks!!
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:25 PM
November 9, 2011 3:34 PM - dibs
The current situation with both the Greek and Italian governments points to why the US form of democrcy with a president and a senate and house is FAR superior. Unstable in the best of times, these governments collapse when they are most necessary to get these countries through these problems. Votes of confidence and snap elections are really third world.
November 9, 2011 3:35 PM - Donatella


From this........
November 9, 2011 3:36 PM - Donatella


to this.......
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:36 PM
November 9, 2011 3:37 PM - dibs
SCARRRRYYY, dona.
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:37 PM
November 9, 2011 3:37 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Legion, I don't know how to capture the pic from youtube video, but here's the video link...watch for a minute or so so that you can see both sides of her. Amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaSpFPrWyxU
November 9, 2011 3:37 PM - Donatella


Right? In the space of only a couple of years.
November 9, 2011 3:38 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
How does one lose iron chef status? is IC an honor title?
November 9, 2011 3:40 PM - dibs
What I don't understand about Iron Chef is why they need that idiot Kevin Brach (sp?). he has maybe 6 superfluous lines the how show. how much does he get paid?????????????????
November 9, 2011 3:42 PM - ij
I prefer Bobby Flay over Mario Batali anyway.
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:42 PM
November 9, 2011 3:44 PM - ij
MF Global workers likely getting laid off today, apparently.
November 9, 2011 3:45 PM - Deleted
i don't mind kevin brach - padma on top chef is horrendous though
November 9, 2011 3:45 PM - Biff Champion
I prefer Rene Arend over both Bobby Flay and Mario Batali.
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:45 PM
November 9, 2011 3:46 PM - Legion
Very interesting snappy, you can see the cat undergoing contractions.
Great circular stripes on the cat, I've never seen that pattern.
November 9, 2011 3:47 PM - dibs
There's a chef on TV in malaysia and who has a number of cookbooks out whom i did in the showers of the Singapore Airlines lounge many years ago.
November 9, 2011 3:50 PM - Donatella

Re: Sparta giving birth to kittens......we had a cat who had several litters of kittens when I was a kid. Ebony was her name. I watched her giving birth. The kittens come out in little sacks filled with fluid, which break and the mother licks all of that off. She cleans them up and they start to suckle and also (a big surprise for us) the mother starts licking their butts. There is no kitty poop for a while, since mother cat licks it. That's to get their butt muscles working.

After several litters of kittens, Ebony became extremely protective and got aggressive toward us kids. The rest is a bit of a blur but I think my father found Ebony a new home. I don't think it ever occurred to them to get her fixed. We're Catholic.
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:50 PM
November 9, 2011 3:50 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Gorgeous right? I've never seen circular either, and never markings that appeared so symmetrical.
November 9, 2011 3:50 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
hate hate hate celebrity chefs. tho i do love hells kitchen. gordon ramsey is funny on the show but i know nothing about his food im sure it sucks since he's british. i dont like the primpy faggy chefs who are always posing in magazines versus actually cooking tho. zzzz. i also find people who fetishize food totally disturbing... it's like they never got over the oral stage of child development! sickos


*rob*

November 9, 2011 3:51 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
LOL Donna! Makes sense that fixing a Catholic cat is a no-no :-)
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:51 PM
November 9, 2011 3:52 PM - Donatella


Yes, Mr. Corzine, Mr. Home Run HItter, managed to screw up the lives of 2800 people working there, not to mention all of the customers.
November 9, 2011 3:53 PM - ij
As Julia Child said, when you get a plate of food with artful presentation, it's because all kinds of hands have been all over it.
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:53 PM
November 9, 2011 3:54 PM - Donatella

I don't know Snappy. That cat had a lot of kittens. My parents never got her fixed. The kittens were fun. We used to play with them and feed them with bottles. No wonder Ebony went after us.
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:54 PM
November 9, 2011 3:55 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Yeah, touching the babies before momma is ready to let you is always a bad idea!
November 9, 2011 3:56 PM - dibs
I'm surprised Biff hasn't posted a picture to do with suckling.
November 9, 2011 3:58 PM - Biff Champion
Since my post was probably lost on the 1%ers:

"The McRib made its debut in the US in 1981 as a limited-time item; then, as now, it returns to the menu for promotional periods. It was developed by McDonald's first Executive Chef Rene Arend, who had fathered Chicken McNuggets in 1979."
Edited at November 9, 2011 3:58 PM
November 9, 2011 3:58 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I'd do it for you, Dave, but frankly, I'm afraid of what Google Images will make pop up on my computer screen here at work~!
November 9, 2011 4:02 PM - dibs
Well Snappy if not forr the actual nutrition, then just for the effort to get at it......
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:02 PM
November 9, 2011 4:04 PM - Legion
biff,
I've never figured out exactly what part of the chicken
the "nugget" fits into?
November 9, 2011 4:05 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Definitely no nutrition there, Dave. Not for me anyway. Ha!
November 9, 2011 4:05 PM - dibs
I have never had chicken McNuggets or the McRib.
November 9, 2011 4:07 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Never had a McRib and never will. Especially after reading what DH posted about them a short time ago. When I go to McD's I get the salad. Quite tasty.
November 9, 2011 4:07 PM - Legion
dibs,
I posted an official OT review of the McRib on Flatlands Avenue in Canarsie a couple of weeks ago.
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:07 PM
November 9, 2011 4:09 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I saw one being prepped at the McD's where I get my lunch. Dry, brittle looking piece of (near) meat getting nuked and then dipped into a tray of red sauce. Ick!
November 9, 2011 4:10 PM - Biff Champion
I bet more people have suffered foodborne illnesses from eating raw shelfish or fruit than from eating McRibs.
November 9, 2011 4:11 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I'd bet you are right.
November 9, 2011 4:12 PM - dibs
And organic lettuce and other produce!!!!!!
November 9, 2011 4:12 PM - Donatella

McAnything......not real food.
November 9, 2011 4:13 PM - dibs
You'd never find me putting anything that started with Mc in my mouth, especially if it had red hair.
November 9, 2011 4:13 PM - Biff Champion
"What foods are most associated with foodborne illness?

Raw foods of animal origin are the most likely to be contaminated; that is, raw meat and poultry, raw eggs, unpasteurized milk, and raw shellfish. Because filter-feeding shellfish strain microbes from the sea over many months, they are particularly likely to be contaminated if there are any pathogens in the seawater. Foods that mingle the products of many individual animals, such as bulk raw milk, pooled raw eggs, or ground beef, are particularly hazardous because a pathogen present in any one of the animals may contaminate the whole batch. A single hamburger may contain meat from hundreds of animals. A single restaurant omelet may contain eggs from hundreds of chickens. A glass of raw milk may contain milk from hundreds of cows. A broiler chicken carcass can be exposed to the drippings and juices of many thousands of other birds that went through the same cold water tank after slaughter.

Fruits and vegetables consumed raw are a particular concern. Washing can decrease but not eliminate contamination, so the consumers can do little to protect themselves. Recently, a number of outbreak have been traced to fresh fruits and vegetables that were processed under less than sanitary conditions. These outbreaks show that the quality of the water used for washing and chilling the produce after it is harvested is critical. Using water that is not clean can contaminate many boxes of produce. Fresh manure used to fertilize vegetables can also contaminate them. Alfalfa sprouts and other raw sprouts pose a particular challenge, as the conditions under which they are sprouted are ideal for growing microbes as well as sprouts, and because they are eaten without further cooking. That means that a few bacteria present on the seeds can grow to high numbers of pathogens on the sprouts. Unpasteurized fruit juice can also be contaminated if there are pathogens in or on the fruit that is used to make it."

Enough to make you want to go on a hunger strike...
November 9, 2011 4:14 PM - Biff Champion
"You'd never find me putting anything that started with Mc in my mouth, especially if it had red hair."

Not even Donovan McNabb?
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:14 PM
November 9, 2011 4:14 PM - dibs
I'm not reading that, Biff. I had raw oysters last night and I've been craving steak tartare.
November 9, 2011 4:15 PM - Legion
donatella,
I saw you posted that you tripped and fell earlier this week.
Hope you didn't hurt yourself.
I fell on some ice last winter and scratched up my hands good.
November 9, 2011 4:15 PM - Biff Champion
"A single hamburger may contain meat from hundreds of animals."

I've seen and read that a ton of times and it still freaks me out...
November 9, 2011 4:15 PM - dibs
Actually I never found McNabb all that attractive.
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:15 PM
November 9, 2011 4:15 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
But the salads are tasty, I swear! (they don't start with "mc" though)
November 9, 2011 4:16 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Jesus Biff! Cut it out!!!!
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:16 PM
November 9, 2011 4:16 PM - dibs
"A single hamburger may contain meat from hundreds of animals."

I'm not going to comment any more on this subject.
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:16 PM
November 9, 2011 4:19 PM - Legion
Be extra careful about sauces and mayo in the summer.
If you're at a barbacue and the potato salad has been sitting in the sun for 6 hours unchilled,
probably best to take a pass on that one.
November 9, 2011 4:20 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I'm far too picky about potato salad to eat anyone's other than my mommy's. And she doesn't believe in letting it sit out for even a few minutes, even in the shade!
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:20 PM
November 9, 2011 4:22 PM - Biff Champion
I assume eating food from food truck vendors in the summer is not a good idea either.
November 9, 2011 4:23 PM - dibs
Most food truck vendors here in NYC with anything other than a hot dog are WAY OVERPRICED. I eat off the street vendors in Bangkok in 99 degree heat all the time.
November 9, 2011 4:23 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Not a great idea in the winter either...have they got a sink in there for hand washing???
November 9, 2011 4:25 PM - Biff Champion
"I eat off the street vendors in Bangkok in 99 degree heat all the time."

What do you eat off of them?
November 9, 2011 4:25 PM - Legion
...if they're heating the stuff properly,
most of it is good.
When I go to a pizzeria and order a slice, I make sure to check that the pie is fresh,
not pulled out from a drawer behind the paper cups.
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:25 PM
November 9, 2011 4:27 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
nevermind the sink the fucking disgusting moonfaces never wear beard nets! blech.
also white skin gets more germy than darker skin which is why my rule of food truck and street vendors is the paler they are the more chary one should be.


*rob*

Edited at November 9, 2011 4:27 PM
November 9, 2011 4:27 PM - Arkady
I wore hobnail shoes when I was in school in Scotland. Leather was still on ration from the war so shoes had giant tacks (hobnails) hammered into the soles so they didn't wear out. We kids called them tacky shoes - & they were. It was a uniform so we all had to wear Oxfords. An entire class of kids had to walk through the halls w/ marble floors & not make a sound or you'd get the strap - a leather belt w/ a slit that was lashed over your palm. Really mean teachers would bring it back up to get the back of your hand too.
November 9, 2011 4:28 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Legion!!! Behind paper cups??? I've never seen that done...that would take balls to try and pass that off!
November 9, 2011 4:28 PM - dibs
"also white skin gets more germy than darker skin"

Dr. Legion, care to comment on that????
November 9, 2011 4:28 PM - Legion
haha,
One order of curly fries please.
...and hold the beard!
November 9, 2011 4:29 PM - dibs
I can just envision Arkady standing there asking "Please sir, More porridge, sir?"


Edited at November 9, 2011 4:29 PM
November 9, 2011 4:30 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
dave it's true where do you think that phrase, "dont shake hands with the devil" comes from?

*rob*

November 9, 2011 4:31 PM - Arkady
Snappy!!! You never had my potato salad!?!?!
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:31 PM
November 9, 2011 4:33 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
You gave me some once, but I kept forgetting to have it and by the time I remembered it, it had turned :-(
November 9, 2011 4:33 PM - Arkady
Getting caught up. Congrats, dh! Good luck!
November 9, 2011 4:34 PM - Arkady
"forgetting", my ass!
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:34 PM
November 9, 2011 4:35 PM - Legion
Humans have normal skin flora including certain species of bacteria.
Fungal organisms are not uncommon either.

While I don't know of a definitive study detailing one skin type having more of a particular organism,
there is definitely a variation in amounts and types of contaminating organisms from person to person.


Cleanliness is next to Godliness
November 9, 2011 4:35 PM - More4Less
have I mentioned I've eaten snakes, field mice, dragon flies,.....?

I'll take that McRib if you don't want it. Sure, I'll that chicken nugget, hamburger, etc. too
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:35 PM
November 9, 2011 4:35 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Well dammit. I just dropped my piece of candy :-(

WAAAAAAAAAAH!
November 9, 2011 4:36 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Arkady, I haven't forgotten your ass! I still recall the slugs that came out! ROFL!
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:36 PM
November 9, 2011 4:38 PM - dibs
5 second rule applies to dropped candy.
November 9, 2011 4:38 PM - Slopefarm
"Cleanliness is next to Godliness"

And apparently both are more matters of faith than knowledge.

November 9, 2011 4:39 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Not on this nasty ass office floor. I'd sooner eat a piece that fell on the street outside.
November 9, 2011 4:39 PM - Slopefarm
Slugs?
November 9, 2011 4:40 PM - Donatella

Legion, thanks for asking. I was really rushing so I fell with a lot of momentum. I scratched up the palm of both hands near my wrists. I was sort of stunned but falling on my butt easily cushioned the shock. :-)
November 9, 2011 4:43 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Yup, Slopey. Slugs. One night Arkady and I found ourselves seated outside Atlantic Center near the foilage facing Atlantic Ave. I happened to look down and saw a giant slug right next to her bum. Looked like it was coming from there. Oh, how I howled (after I first suppressed the urge to scream and run...slugs are gross).
November 9, 2011 4:44 PM - DeLepp
dona, good to know that hansen bar is open that early, reminds me of the old bars on wall street back in the day tht catered to the over-nighters.
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:44 PM
November 9, 2011 4:46 PM - Donatella

Definitely an Oliver Twist image you conjure up there, Arkady. I used to wear Oxfords, brown oxfords with forest green anklets. Agent of torture used to be a yardstick.
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:46 PM
November 9, 2011 4:48 PM - Donatella
That place is dark as a cave, DeLepp. I can't go in there without my miner's helmet and attached headlight.
November 9, 2011 4:52 PM - More4Less
Given the yo yo mkt, tomorrow and Fri will be decent up days etc............ - if I was good looking, I would be a talking head on CNBC making such stupid comments
November 9, 2011 4:53 PM - BoerumHillScott
I hate slugs.
Growing up we had a cat who lived outside, and sometimes in the mornings there would be a slug or two in her food bowl.
I had the pleasure of having to clean it out.
November 9, 2011 4:54 PM - Arkady
We also sat at desks on steps & used chalk boards/slates. Not chalk, though; little skinny stylus of some kind that you mustn't break or you'd get the strap.
November 9, 2011 4:55 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Used to work at Long John Silver's way, way back when. We'd get in cabbage and whatnot to make the coleslaw. Always at least one slug stuck to it. DISGUSTING. Cook used to peel it off, place it on the counter, and then sprinkle salt on it and watch it shrivel up and die. I'd be hiding in the walk-in freezer until it was over with.
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:55 PM
November 9, 2011 4:58 PM - Legion
How about those yellow shelled snails in everyone's Brooklyn backyard?
You guys must have seen those.
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:58 PM
November 9, 2011 4:58 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Never seen them in any yards legion. In fact, that night was the first slug I'd seen in a very long time in Brooklyn.
November 9, 2011 4:59 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Ok...that's gross.

AAAAAUUUUGHHHHHH!
Edited at November 9, 2011 4:59 PM
November 9, 2011 4:59 PM - Arkady
I get slugs here but very few snails.
November 9, 2011 5:01 PM - DeLepp
"you'd get the strap"
kinda like this phrase, says it all in minimum exchange
Edited at November 9, 2011 5:01 PM
November 9, 2011 5:04 PM - Legion
Yeah, these are very common snails.
They're kind of neat.
Not as gross as those tiger striped giant slugs since they have the nice shell.
November 9, 2011 5:06 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Shell or no shell, gross! Those things truly freak me out.
November 9, 2011 5:06 PM - More4Less
is a slug a big snail without the shell???
November 9, 2011 5:07 PM - More4Less
Snaps, how about the furry catepillars???
November 9, 2011 5:08 PM - Legion
M4L,
As far as I know, they're both the same type of invertebrate creature,
but different species, one with, one without shell.
I do admit, those giant tiger striped slugs are a bit freaky. They usually only come out on rainy nights though.
November 9, 2011 5:08 PM - DeLepp
so snaps, no escargot for you?
November 9, 2011 5:08 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Caterpillars are ok...as long as it's in a picture and not close up :-)

::I am so not a nature girl!::
November 9, 2011 5:09 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
DeLepp, I'd sooner eat chocolate!
November 9, 2011 5:12 PM - Donatella

I have a lot of slugs in the backyard. A lot. One friend told me that you can kill them with beer. Why should I even care?, I asked him. I have nothing against them. Sighing at such a moronic question, he informed me that slugs eat up your plants.

oh.
November 9, 2011 5:12 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Don't waste good beer on that, DonaT!!! Stick with the salt.
Edited at November 9, 2011 5:12 PM
November 9, 2011 5:13 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I didn't know they ate the plants.
November 9, 2011 5:13 PM - BoerumHillScott
Growing up, there would times of year when the trees were covered with thousands of the big black caterpillars.
In elementary school, the boys would all prove how tough we were by seeing how long we could hold one, or how many we could put on our hands/arms at once.
Sometimes they would sting.
November 9, 2011 5:14 PM - More4Less
Snaps, so on top of nuggets, mcrib, burgers, etc, I'll take that chocolate and snails that you don't want.
Edited at November 9, 2011 5:14 PM
November 9, 2011 5:15 PM - Donatella

I always thought they were creepy, especially the way they always mysteriously show up sticking to something. Something you WANT. I will admit to S C R E A M I N G more than once when I found a slug hanging on the inside of
a cup I left outside. But I still don't know why it is important to kill them.
Edited at November 9, 2011 5:15 PM
November 9, 2011 5:15 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
You got it, M4L!
November 9, 2011 5:16 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Inflight porn, anyone?
"Adult videos at 30,000 feet raise many questions. Here are six that come immediately to mind for me:
How might this affect fellow passengers, among them children, sitting just a few inches away?
Will these porno-viewing patrons be required to wear headphones to keep the audio to themselves?
Will there be X-rated sections on the plane? (And will you have to pay extra to sit there? Or to not sit there?)
If Ryanair goes ahead with its plan to remove bathrooms, will the one remaining private area on the plane end up being even more occupied than expected?
Would you try this service—or voluntarily sit next to someone partaking of it?
Are people really so desperate for porn that they can't wait a few hours until they're back on solid ground?"

http://www.smartertravel.com/travel-advice/porno-on-planes-ryanair-says-yes.html?id=9584404&source=91&value=2011-11-09+00%3A00%3A00&u=D8B0111A03&nl_cs=9566223%3A%3A7629030%3A%3A9584404%3A%3A
November 9, 2011 5:16 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I gotta run. Later folks!
November 9, 2011 5:20 PM - Biff Champion
"Inflight porn, anyone?"

Gives new meaning to snakes on a plane.
November 9, 2011 5:30 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
benson: If you haven't seen it...From today's NYT op-ed, George Campbell, re: Cooper Union. I hadn't seen it but Bh pointed it out to me just now. Some statements seem to be misleading, from BH's POV.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/opinion/cooper-unions-finances.html
November 9, 2011 5:53 PM - Deleted
Cobble;

Thanks for the link.

Did your folks receive the latest e-mail from Cooper? After I wrote the posts above, I received another e-mail from Cooper stating that the graph they had previously supplied showing the deficits of years past was incorrect, and they supplied a new graph.

How can you not know your income and expenses from previous years?

Something is fishy about this whole affair. I think we may be dealing with an "Olympus" situation here.
Edited at November 9, 2011 5:53 PM
November 9, 2011 6:04 PM - Legion
ha ha donatella,
yeah, the slugs seem to move pretty quickly for creatures relying solely on slime power.
November 9, 2011 6:04 PM - Legion
sixyears,
It's bad enough, I have to contend with the guy next to me sleeping with his head dangerously close to my shoulder,
now I'll have to be wary of a chubby under his tray table?
November 9, 2011 6:06 PM - Arkady
When I did annual meetings for corporations they'd often have to redo their p/l, etc. from the year before & I always wondered how those kinds of figures could change.
Snails & slugs eat plants & can do a lot of damage. If you try to grow, for instance, dahlias, slugs will kill them before they get very big. I put copper collars around mine until they can fend for themselves. You can use diatomaceous earth but have to renew it after rain. I did the beer thing once - never again!!! The container was filled w/ the most disgusting looking mass of protoplasm you've every seen. Really vile!!!
November 9, 2011 6:16 PM - dibs
I think it's a sin that these people give up their trees to Rockefeller Center for their 5 seconds of fame.
November 9, 2011 6:24 PM - Deleted
DIBS;

That was a very 1% type of statement.
November 9, 2011 6:57 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
benson, Dunno if they got the email, but am waiting with bated-breath to hear content of today's meeting. A panel with the new prez.... BH will hear some tomorrow. I'll have to wait a few days to get the skinny directly. New head of business at the school (~one year) seems to be uncovering all sorts of things. Apparently, she has actual academic and biz experience.
November 9, 2011 6:59 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
And, not BH's opinion, per se, I think the Op-ed is damage control by author. Just my 2 cents. One assumes he's under some intense scrutiny for the failures/deficits being uncovered.
November 9, 2011 7:17 PM - BoerumHillScott
How big and involved is the board of directors for Cooper?


The college I went to had similar financial issues, and in hindsight one of the issues was the size of the board.
Board memberships was handed out like honorariums to big contributers and community leaders, reaching 50 or more members.
The net result was that no one on the board had any real power, and the president had 100% free reign to make decisions with little oversight.
November 9, 2011 7:24 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
How can you not know your income and expenses from previous years?

you'd be shocked...

*rob*

November 9, 2011 7:28 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh get the FUCK out of here. someone is singing opera in my building and it's making my ears bleed. ugh. i dont mind when people play instruments but this shit is TERRIBLE. dont they have special places people can practice that? it's rude to subject your neighbors to it. im 2 seconds away from BLASTING lil kim out my bedroom window.

*rob*

Edited at November 9, 2011 7:28 PM
November 9, 2011 7:33 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
ugh there's a man singing now. please tell me this is just someone listening to this awful music somewhere nearby and not new neighbors. ill move right the fuck out if they start practising this shit everyday.

*rob*

Edited at November 9, 2011 7:33 PM
November 9, 2011 7:34 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
http://cooper.edu/about/trustees
November 9, 2011 7:37 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
LMFAO a dog in the building just started barking! awesome! (it wasnt mine tho)

*rob*

November 9, 2011 7:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
sounds like it's over.

*rob*

Edited at November 9, 2011 7:38 PM
November 9, 2011 7:49 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Rob, I lived upstairs from an opera singer back in the 'pleistocene era'.
Edited at November 9, 2011 7:49 PM
November 9, 2011 7:50 PM - BoerumHillScott
So 28 trustees - That is still seems like quite a lot to me.
Edited at November 9, 2011 7:50 PM
November 9, 2011 7:51 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Side note: I think Mr. B is virtually stalking me. : P He posted the DP Japanese house tour as the closing bell! Someone tell him to stop talking up DP!
Edited at November 9, 2011 7:52 PM
November 9, 2011 7:52 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I don't really know the ins & outs of the President's office and Trustees. I just hear what's talked about within the school. I also don't know what's 'normal/usual' at other schools.
Edited at November 9, 2011 7:52 PM
November 9, 2011 7:54 PM - BoerumHillScott
Without researching, I would guess a large number of trustees is typical, since it is a cheap way to reward people.
I just don't think it is necessarily a good thing.
Edited at November 9, 2011 7:54 PM
November 9, 2011 7:57 PM - Deleted
Scott;

I can't say for sure, but I think the president has a pretty free hand. In the alumni newletter, there is a message from him, but not from the Board. I think 28 is too large for an effective Board.

Cobble;

I agree with your take on the past president's letter.

I hope things will be alright for BH. Heaven knows you guys have been through a lot already.
Edited at November 9, 2011 7:57 PM
November 9, 2011 8:02 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Our guess is that BH will be fine due to particular project he's working on, but yes, there will most likely be cuts in "overhead" - meaning personnel.
Edited at November 9, 2011 8:07 PM
November 9, 2011 8:13 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
More CU news/opinion, just scanning, haven't fully read yet.

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/09/cooper-unions-murky-finances/
Edited at November 9, 2011 8:13 PM
November 9, 2011 8:17 PM - Deleted
The old engineering building was only 50 years old. It could have been upgraded for significantly less money than that "statement" that replaced it.
November 9, 2011 8:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
The new building. Sigh. We could tell you hair-raising stories about that. But not now. BH just walked in and dinner is ready!
November 9, 2011 8:46 PM - Deleted
For those who have not seen it, here's what Cooper's new building looks like.
November 9, 2011 8:50 PM - Deleted
Here is a picture of the former engineering building, which Cooper sold. Clearly this 50 year-old building did not make a "statement", and hence was not worthy of an upgrade.
November 9, 2011 8:54 PM - Legion
First time I'm seeing that new building benson.
It certainly has character. I'd love to see the inside and other views of the outside.

Just following the news between you and cobble on this,
I hope Cooper Union can find it's way out of its tangled finances.
Sounds like the Board Of Directors was not acting as a fiscal watchdog.
November 9, 2011 8:58 PM - Legion
Any conspiracy theorists here tonight?
Check out this photo I took with my cell phone today,
exactly one hour before the nationwide "Emergency Broadcast".

...if you look closely, there are US Navy markings visible.
Edited at November 9, 2011 8:58 PM
November 9, 2011 9:08 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
benson, Just talking w/BH over dinner. He says...get this...new building is 20k +/- sq. ft. smaller - usable sq. footage wise! And it's being shared with the art school. Sheesh. Engineers, as you know, get no respect! : P
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:08 PM
November 9, 2011 9:13 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
legion, i just read over on gothamist about that blimp that was out today ahhhaha. i saw it actually out my window at work (i believe it was flying around somewhere near that tall new trump building...) and didnt think much of it other than it was just a random blimp. it didnt look that different really.

*rob*

November 9, 2011 9:15 PM - BoerumHillScott
I like the way the new building looks, but it does seem overly extravagant.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:15 PM
November 9, 2011 9:28 PM - Legion
I don't know what to make of it *rob*.
Just weird how there's a US Navy blimp suddenly floating around the city on the same day as the first ever nationwide Emergency Alert System check.

...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:28 PM
November 9, 2011 9:32 PM - Legion
...oh and the day after an asteroid half a kilometer wide does a fly by between the Earth and the Moon.
Edited at November 9, 2011 9:32 PM
November 9, 2011 9:53 PM - BoerumHillScott
Damn, Wendy has had a cold for a bit more than a week but I though I had avoided it.
For the last 2 days I have had a scratchy throat, and now it is getting worse and the coughing has started.
I really did not need this now.
November 9, 2011 10:25 PM - Donatella


Hi BHS, water, aspirin, zinc lozenges, lots of sleep, no worry. I hope you feel better soon.
Edited at November 9, 2011 10:25 PM
November 9, 2011 10:54 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i think it might be official. i think i need to get laid.

all this just because i *HAD* to stop into housing works after work this evening and spotted a video game from the 80s for some obscure system that i just happen to have.

spent 2 hours frantically searching, pulling everything apart, looking in every box including boxes i havent opened in years, for a very specific AC adapter only to realize that i never owned it to begin with... eventually found a universal comparable adapter and after all of that sat down 2 minutes using it only to get bored and put it all away. also the whole time seriously bugging out that various wires were tangled while i was searching. is this like OCD, ADHD, and Hoarding all rolled up into one!?!
and maybe compulsive shopping!?

i got zero pleasure out of that purchase other than a completely frazzled evening tonight. i havent even started cooking dinner yet, and now im too frazzled to even get into the damn shower that im sitting here chain smoking instead.


*rob*

November 9, 2011 11:02 PM - Deleted
Arkady. Very easy to mess with p&l by changing depreciation methods and expense amortizations and accruals. Sadly, that's basically all my job entails.
November 9, 2011 11:03 PM - Deleted
(referring to your comment from mich earlier)
November 9, 2011 11:05 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i find people with the most boring jobs usually wind up being the most interesting people. seriously. it's people that yammer on and on about their "careers" that often the ones that put me to sleep the fastest.

*rob*

November 9, 2011 11:06 PM - BoerumHillScott
One of the basic problems with corporate income tax is that "income" and "expense" are both really hard to define for businesses. There is a lot of grey area.

When you try to assign the incomes and expenses of a multinational company to a specific country or jurisdiction, the situation gets even more complicated.
November 9, 2011 11:06 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
unless they are scientists, hookers, strippers, drug dealers, or reality tv show veterans. if youre none of those, i really dont wanna hear about your day.

*rob*

November 9, 2011 11:15 PM - Deleted
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November 9, 2011 11:16 PM - Donatella

*rob* I think that anyone with any job can be interesting. Conversely, anyone with any job can be boring. But I think what you are saying is that when someone is really invested in the "status" component of their job, they are boring. Because they focus on externals. Appearances. And not the creative aspect of it. Or the fun part. Find somebody who has their eyes open, and really loves what they do and they are interesting. No matter what they do. I really believe this.
Edited at November 9, 2011 11:16 PM
November 9, 2011 11:17 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i get such hate on this site. i dont know WHY i bother. you all make me feel like kimmy gibler's training bra sometimes.


*rob*

November 9, 2011 11:18 PM - Donatella

kimmy gibler's training bra? That sounds bad, *rob*. (what size?)

:-) !!!!

November 9, 2011 11:20 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Find somebody who has their eyes open, and really loves what they do and they are interesting. No matter what they do. I really believe this.

i actually love what i do. it's a job. it doesnt define me. it pays the bills, nothing more, nothing less. like if youre a doctor or something, you're a doctor 24/7 whether you want to or not. you could be screwing a whore in some dark corner of an alleyway at 3am in the morning in the ghetto but if the whore knows what you do, well then you're the doctor whether you want to be the doctor in that moment or not. same with politians... which is why they have such fucked up sex lives and identity issues.

*rob*

November 9, 2011 11:25 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
kimmy gibler's training bra? That sounds bad, *rob*. (what size?)

probably the same size as danny tanner's jock strap

*rob*

November 9, 2011 11:28 PM - Donatella

So, some some jobs carry along an identity, a more "defining" social identity than others. ok. I can buy that.
November 9, 2011 11:29 PM - Donatella


I have to drive someone to Westchester early tomorrow am.......gotta go to sleep. Good night *rob*.
Edited at November 9, 2011 11:29 PM