Friday Open Thread
October 21, 2011 7:27 AM - BoerumHillScott

739 comments
October 21, 2011 8:00 AM - Bedstuymaven
What a beautiful morning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI8jGtvGmIQ
#1
October 21, 2011 8:01 AM - dibs
Don't remind me of that snow.
#2
October 21, 2011 8:06 AM - Bedstuymaven
Snappy - It's Friday. Just for you the dance of joy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfPg5LjGYz8
#3
October 21, 2011 8:07 AM - Bedstuymaven
Good Morning DIBS
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:07 AM
#4
October 21, 2011 8:11 AM - dibs
Finally this IDIOT proposes something sensible:

In passing we note that Sen.
Charles Schumer has proposed granting visas to any
foreign investor who buys a house ... or houses... in the
US for $500,000. This is an idea we have relentlessly
promoted for many, many years in speeches we’ve given
and interviews we’ve had. Canada did this in the run-up to
the Chinese take-over of Hong Kong... actually Canada
granted full citizenship to members of the British
Commonwealth living in Hong Kong, but the effect was the
same: it put a material and long standing bid into what had
to that time been a weak and weakening housing market
there.

Edited at October 21, 2011 8:11 AM
#5
October 21, 2011 8:11 AM - dibs
GM, BSM
#6
October 21, 2011 8:14 AM - Bedstuymaven
DIBs, I see you are just happy and peppy and bursting with love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcbDxWU45zw
#7
October 21, 2011 8:16 AM - Legion
Good Morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sFr5Esgv-s
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:16 AM
#8
October 21, 2011 8:20 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Mornin' folks!

IT'S FRIDAY, DAMMIT!

:-)

Thanks for the dance, BSM! I used to love that show!
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:19 AM
#9
October 21, 2011 8:20 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Scott, beautiful pic, but that made me shiver!
#10
October 21, 2011 8:21 AM - Bedstuymaven
Thanks for the dance, BSM! I used to love that show!

Thought you would like it.
#11
October 21, 2011 8:25 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM
#12
October 21, 2011 8:34 AM - dibs
nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom


Thanks, Legion
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:34 AM
#13
October 21, 2011 8:35 AM - Bedstuymaven
Hi Cobble. How are you feeling today?
#14
October 21, 2011 8:37 AM - Deleted
I went to an affair last night, that had catered Chinese food that was excellent. My friend told me that the restaurant is located at Flatbush Ave and Ave.R. I've got to check it out.

Oh, and GM.
#15
October 21, 2011 8:38 AM - BoerumHillScott
The picture was taken the morning after the big snow storm we had in late January - the day the schools were shut down.
It is of the other side of the block I live on.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:39 AM
#16
October 21, 2011 8:38 AM - dibs
I too was having some Chinese last night, benson.
#17
October 21, 2011 8:39 AM - dibs
BHS, by 7:00 AM our sidewalks were already all shoveled!!!!
#18
October 21, 2011 8:40 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM, BSM, Not too bad, thanks for asking. Still coughing, but I think the meds are helping a bit. Should see real results by the end of the weekend. I think I'm going to go over to IKEA to get out of the apt today. We need a couple rugs, and I want to look at some things in person (vs. on the web).
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:41 AM
#19
October 21, 2011 8:40 AM - Legion
NOM NOM NOM
:o)
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:40 AM
#20
October 21, 2011 8:41 AM - BoerumHillScott
The sidewalks on both sides of my building were shoveled around 6:00 that morning, but when I took the picture around 7:00 few of the businesses on Atlantic and none of the homes on State had shoveled.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:41 AM
#21
October 21, 2011 8:41 AM - Bedstuymaven
BHS, by 7:00 AM our sidewalks were already all shoveled!!!!

Life in idyllic Bed-Stuy
#22
October 21, 2011 8:43 AM - Deleted
I live in a condo. Shovelling sidewalks doesn't concern me. Ditto for taking out and bringing back the garbage pails.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:43 AM
#23
October 21, 2011 8:45 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
It's funny that were here talking about snow. Last night, as BH and I were walking back from dinner, we were imagining how beautiful Ditmas Park will look in a snow storm! And how we'll be stuck out here for sure, since the trains run outdoors!
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:45 AM
#24
October 21, 2011 8:46 AM - dibs
Yes and you probably pay 3-4 X the real estate taxes that I do!!!!! Not to mention the condo fees.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
#25
October 21, 2011 8:50 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
*Watching NY1, In the Papers*

A taxi medallion is worth 1 million dollars? How long would it take you to earn that back after you bought it?
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:50 AM
#26
October 21, 2011 8:52 AM - Bedstuymaven
A taxi medallion is worth 1 million dollars? How long would it take you to earn that back after you bought it?

Not sure. But the people who own medallions lease the cabs out.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:52 AM
#27
October 21, 2011 8:53 AM - dibs
What's the average fare in NYC??? Let's say $8.00...plus $1.00 tip...that's 111,000 trips / 20 per day = 5,550 dyas or 15 years.

Additionally, most drivers don't own the medallion, a company does.

Doesn't seem to make any economic sense at all.

What am I missing?????

Maybe it's just a money laundering scheme.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:53 AM
#28
October 21, 2011 8:55 AM - dibs
The residents down around Wall St are getting fed up with the drumming and the urinating and defecating near their buildings.

I have to agree with them.

Additionally, a lot of businesses are losing business...mostly because of the ridiculous barricades that the police have everywhere.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:55 AM
#29
October 21, 2011 8:56 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yes, I know they can lease it out and have the taxi effectively earning 24/7, but I'm curious about the math here. I wonder what an average taxi shift earns for the medallion owner. Then you have to factor in maintenance, insurance and taxes. Who pays for gas? The driver/leaser? Seems like it could take years to get your investment back, and then how much profit would you really make on a yearly basis? It must be worth it, but it's hard to fathom not knowing the numbers.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:56 AM
#30
October 21, 2011 8:56 AM - Slopefarm
Think of it like a rental property. You earn income while you hold the medallion, then you sell the medallion. You don't have to earn the million to pay for it; just a rate of return on the investment.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:56 AM
#31
October 21, 2011 8:57 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Doesn't seem to make any economic sense at all.
What am I missing?????"

Exactly, I'm not seeing it.
#32
October 21, 2011 8:58 AM - CGar
What's next? The moon landing?

"Real 'Sybil' Admits Multiple Personalities Were Fake"
http://www.npr.org/2011/10/20/141514464/real-sybil-admits-multiple-personalities-were-fake
#33
October 21, 2011 8:59 AM - dibs
I suspect that there's one bank in Queens that finances the medallion purchases through some arcane rules and regulations.
#34
October 21, 2011 8:59 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Interesting, Slopey. So you're just parking your million dollars and essentially making whatever (imagining minimal/minor) profit until you sell it hopefully at a higher rate?
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:59 AM
#35
October 21, 2011 9:00 AM - dibs
Cobbble, like a mortgage, they probably only put up 20% or so. So the rate of return is on the cash investment, after you deduct the interest for the loan, etc, etc, etc, etc
#36
October 21, 2011 9:00 AM - Bedstuymaven
What's the average fare in NYC??? Let's say $8.00...plus $1.00 tip...that's 111,000 trips / 20 per day = 5,550 dyas or 15 years.

DIBs - The owners rent the cabs, 2 12 hour shift per day. So we are looking as shift rental fees minus cost to maintain the vehicle.

I would think a driver, staying in Manhattan would average 3 trips per hour. 12 hours per day equals 36 trips.
#37
October 21, 2011 9:02 AM - dibs
I can think of a lot better ways to earn a return on $1MM, leveraged or not.

Like i said, I bet most of them are money laundering schemes. All those people can't have made enough money herding goats in the home country!!!!!
#38
October 21, 2011 9:03 AM - CGar
I'm very bummed out that the Cardinals blew Game 2 in the 9th inning. With the Yankees out. And the Phillies out. And no Red Sox to root against. I want the Cardinals to win. I vehemently dislike the Rangers. Plus, Stan Musial - still alive - was my mother's favorite player.
#39
October 21, 2011 9:03 AM - Deleted
"Yes and you probably pay 3-4 X the real estate taxes that I do!!!!! "

Doubtful. With 421A exemption, property taxes are $80/month - for another 15 years.

Thank you, City of New York!!!!!
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:03 AM
#40
October 21, 2011 9:04 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Does anyone else just tune McCain out nowadays when he starts yapping on TV?
#41
October 21, 2011 9:06 AM - dibs
here's a Bloomberg chart on medallion prices relative to homes and gold since 1980

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-31/ny-cab-medallions-worth-more-than-gold-chart-of-the-day.html
#42
October 21, 2011 9:06 AM - Bedstuymaven
All about taxis

http://www.schallerconsult.com/taxi/taxifb.pdf
#43
October 21, 2011 9:06 AM - CGar
Scott, it's a beautiful picture, but I'm not ready to concede the end of summer quite yet, particularly after a day like yesterday.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:06 AM
#44
October 21, 2011 9:06 AM - dibs
"Does anyone else just tune McCain out nowadays when he starts yapping on TV?"

No where near as condescending and full of lies as Obama.
#45
October 21, 2011 9:07 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Uh-oh! Taxi medallion bubble!! : P
#46
October 21, 2011 9:08 AM - lechacal
DIBS. Medallion finance. AMTC.
#47
October 21, 2011 9:09 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I don't know/care whether or not McCain is lying, I'm just not listening to him anymore! LA LA LA LA LA, I can't hear him! : P
#48
October 21, 2011 9:09 AM - BoerumHillScott
The medallion owner, cab owner, and cab driver can be 3 different people/companies.

The NYTimes had an article a month or two ago that mentioned the medallion owner is the one who gets the advertising money - another $100-$200 a month.
#49
October 21, 2011 9:10 AM - dibs
I take car service anyway.
#50
October 21, 2011 9:13 AM - Slopefarm
And, speaking of taxis:

Elaine [on first meeting Alex]: I'm only going to be working here part-time. I'm not really a taxi driver.
Alex: Oh yeah, I know. We're all part-time here. You see that guy over there? Now, he's an actor. The guy on the phone, he's a prize fighter. This lady over here, she's a beautician. The man behind her, he's a writer. Me? I'm a cab driver. I'm the only cab driver in this place.

#51
October 21, 2011 9:15 AM - CGar
Slopey! OMFG! I was just looking for that same quote from Taxi.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:15 AM
#52
October 21, 2011 9:16 AM - dibs
Taxi driver.....


#53
October 21, 2011 9:18 AM - dibs
Too bad NYC cabs can't be like Japan...

Courteous, knowledgeable drivers
Extremely clean cabs
Air conditioning that works


Edited at October 21, 2011 9:18 AM
#54
October 21, 2011 9:19 AM - dibs
Why is it that I can get air conditioning in Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, Beijing, Shanghai, Schenzhen and bangkok but NOT IN NYC????


Edited at October 21, 2011 9:19 AM
#55
October 21, 2011 9:20 AM - rf
Schenzhen? Is that in Schina?

Cue the tiny violin.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:20 AM
#56
October 21, 2011 9:23 AM - dibs
Shenzhen, yes, Guangdong province to be specific. Don't try and lecture me on my knowledge of Asia, dumbass. :)
#57
October 21, 2011 9:24 AM - Slopefarm
LOL, CGar. However, I can't seem to find a photo of Mambo Taxi, from Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown.
#58
October 21, 2011 9:24 AM - lechacal
There's a funny Japanese thing going on at night on my Metro North train. There are four Japanese guys who often take the 10:20 pm or 11:20 pm and get off at Irvington. They all have that middle aged kind of artsy worldly thing going on that Japanese guys sometimes do. Opposite of company man. Slightly longer hair, look like they're probably into a really avant garde arts scene. They sit in different seats and don't appear to know each other at all. Always in the same car (my car, back of the train). They get off and go their separate ways. Just me and four suspiciously similar Japanese.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:24 AM
#59
October 21, 2011 9:26 AM - lechacal
Let's say you were Japanese and took the train home every night to some Tokyo suburb, and it was always you and four middle aged white americans with carefully trimmed beards who dressed like professors, but they never seemed to acknowledge each other. A little weird, right?
#60
October 21, 2011 9:27 AM - dibs
Japs on my train car
Where the hell are they going?
Why did I move here?
#61
October 21, 2011 9:28 AM - lechacal
All I'm saying is, I'm noticing, and I have the Department of Homeland Security on speed dial. I blame those people for Yoko Ono and other atrocities.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:28 AM
#62
October 21, 2011 9:29 AM - lechacal
One of them carries a hard case for a medium sized musical instrument that I should probably be able to identify but can't. Like a bassoon or something.
#63
October 21, 2011 9:30 AM - dibs
Not at all, lech. The Americans would soon be chatting each other up. In Japan, that's not done unless they find themselves in a bar, even then it's rare.

There's an old joke/story about 4 Brits on a railcar seated together in a booth and they never utter one word to each other.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:30 AM
#64
October 21, 2011 9:31 AM - dibs
You can be sure they are not American-born Japanese otherwise they probably would all start talking.
#65
October 21, 2011 9:31 AM - Biff Champion
My nosy neighbour is out today, which is the good news. Bad news is I feel sick and achy all over, my admin on the other side just spent 15 minutes clipping her nails and there is an overpowering scent of minestrone soup on the trading floor. I want to go home.
#66
October 21, 2011 9:31 AM - CGar
"I can't seem to find a photo of Mambo Taxi"
#67
October 21, 2011 9:32 AM - dibs
It seems I was the first to be sick and now it's all the rest of you!!!! :(
#68
October 21, 2011 9:33 AM - lechacal
Just considering raw numbers and statistics, all four of them would probably simultaneously blush and look away if DIBS got on the train.
#69
October 21, 2011 9:33 AM - Slopefarm
LOL, dibs.

Jackal -- I bet they play in the Philharmonic or something.
#70
October 21, 2011 9:34 AM - dibs
For benson....Mambo Italiano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGnh0q4RuQ8
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:34 AM
#71
October 21, 2011 9:34 AM - CGar
Slopey, Pedro Almodovar is one of my favorite directors.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:34 AM
#72
October 21, 2011 9:35 AM - lechacal
"Pedro Almodovar is one of my favorite directors"

That is such a Eurotrash thing to say.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:35 AM
#73
October 21, 2011 9:36 AM - Bedstuymaven
Slopey, Pedro Almodovar is one of my favorite directors.

Mine too!!!
#74
October 21, 2011 9:37 AM - Biff Champion
Lech, guessing your favourite director is Franklin J. Schaffner?
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:37 AM
#75
October 21, 2011 9:37 AM - dibs
Japanese with long hair can be VERY hot.
#76
October 21, 2011 9:38 AM - lechacal
In cocktail party type setting I've started loudly proclaiming that my favorite author is Clive Cussler and my favorite director is James Cameron. Just to see how people react. The ones who don't really respond at all are usually the smartest, followed by people who say some sort of pleasantry, like "oh sure, he put a lot of work into Titanic", followed by people who start bragging about the obscure artsy things they want other people to think they are into.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:38 AM
#77
October 21, 2011 9:38 AM - Biff Champion
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Edited at October 21, 2011 9:38 AM
#78
October 21, 2011 9:39 AM - Bedstuymaven
DIBS He is hot.
#79
October 21, 2011 9:40 AM - dibs
Clive Cussler has an incredible collection of classic cars, including 3 Duesenbergs.
#80
October 21, 2011 9:41 AM - Legion
"My nosy neighbour is out today, which is the good news. Bad news is I feel sick and achy all over, my admin on the other side just spent 15 minutes clipping her nails and there is an overpowering scent of minestrone soup on the trading floor. I want to go home."

Sorry to hear that biff,
I've got just the pick-me-up you need:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrdwhXNt4qw
#81
October 21, 2011 9:42 AM - dibs
"DIBS He is hot."

yes, I can't figure out which part I find the most sexy: The wide nose, the dimpled chin, the full epicanthal folds, the long hair that would be dropping into my face as he is on top of me...

Need I go on????
#82
October 21, 2011 9:44 AM - Bedstuymaven
Need I go on????

Raunch hour starts at 4
#83
October 21, 2011 9:44 AM - lechacal
Actually I suppose if I had to name a favorite director it would be Whit Stillman. Runner up: the guy who did Rushmore, The Life Aquatic, etc.
#84
October 21, 2011 9:44 AM - dibs
It is 4 somewhere in eastern Europe.
#85
October 21, 2011 9:45 AM - Bedstuymaven
But, he does have a very sensual mouth
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:45 AM
#86
October 21, 2011 9:46 AM - dibs
yes, the full lips are indicative of something else!!!!
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:46 AM
#87
October 21, 2011 9:48 AM - CGar
Jackal's favorite director is Leni Riefenstahl.
#88
October 21, 2011 9:49 AM - Legion
Whit Stillman turned me into a Fourierist for a few hours.
#89
October 21, 2011 9:49 AM - dibs
It was the music that ruined Titanic.
#90
October 21, 2011 9:50 AM - Slopefarm
For you Almodovar afficcionados, there's a number of articles on his work on Slate right now. Someone watched all of his movies and plotted out a graph of the most frequent motifs, and ranked the movies as well.
#91
October 21, 2011 9:51 AM - CGar
IMO, it was the love story that ruined an otherwise great movie about a sinking ocean liner.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:51 AM
#92
October 21, 2011 9:52 AM - petebklyn
the music? I thought it was an iceberg that caused the problem
#93
October 21, 2011 9:53 AM - dibs
New high on MCD. it still yields 3.07% but on my cost it is 3.9%. Dividend has grown from $0.375 per quarter in 2008 to $0.70 in the most recent quarter + 29% in 5 years
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:53 AM
#94
October 21, 2011 9:53 AM - lechacal
Wes Anderson. That's his name. Also did The Royal Tennenbaums. But Whit Stillman is still ahead by a bit. Wikipedia tells me that Whit Stillman influenced both Wes Anderson and the guy who did The Squid And The Whale, so I suppose now I'm compelled to see that.
#95
October 21, 2011 9:53 AM - dibs
that was only the tip of the problem, Pete.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:53 AM
#96
October 21, 2011 9:55 AM - lechacal
I'm going to double down on my aggressive social blandness - I'm switching favorite authors from Clive Cussler to Louis L'Amour.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:55 AM
#97
October 21, 2011 9:55 AM - CGar
The real Royal Tennenbaums are friends of mine. (Not kidding.)
#98
October 21, 2011 9:55 AM - petebklyn
Titanic would be okay today - because of global warming.
Edited at October 21, 2011 9:55 AM
#99
October 21, 2011 9:57 AM - lechacal
And I'm switching favorite directors to whoever did all of the Chuck Norris movies.
October 21, 2011 9:57 AM - dibs
Smartphone question: Why do i experience data usage every day even if I don't log on to the internet?????
October 21, 2011 9:58 AM - Biff Champion
I loved Rushmore. One of the few movies I can watch over and over and always be entertained. Well that and anything starring Asia Carrera.
October 21, 2011 10:00 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Smartphone question: Why do i experience data usage every day even if I don't log on to the internet?????"

Because it constantly automatically checks for email, updates, etc., on a regular basis. This is what I was talking about the other day. You need to go look in the settings or elsewhere and figure out how to make it so that it doesn't do that and you can just check for email or updates manually.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:00 AM
October 21, 2011 10:01 AM - lechacal
Menahem Golan. That's my new favorite director. And it sounds kind of artsy (come on, admit it, you don't think a guy who sounds that Jewish would direct Delta Force, right?) so people will totally just nod their head knowingly when I say it. Ahahahaha this is great.
October 21, 2011 10:01 AM - Bedstuymaven
Asia Carrera - Just looked her up. She is a member of MENSA
October 21, 2011 10:02 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
On my phone it's called "auto-sync": applications sync data automatically. I turned it off. Now when/if I want to check my email, I just hit refresh, and it brings down whatever's new. Otherwise, it would be doing this all damn day on it's own, and eating up all my data GBs.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:02 AM
October 21, 2011 10:03 AM - Donatella
I have to look at that Slopey. I really like Almodovar. I just saw Volver on Netflix. He is eccentric and very Spanish, but so human. Funny. And he loves women. I haven't seen all of his movies, but most. The one I saw before that was Live Flesh. Some of his themes are a bit creepy.
October 21, 2011 10:03 AM - dibs
Ok, Cobble. I think I found it. Thanks.
October 21, 2011 10:04 AM - Arkady
CHiller's right. There's a setting you have to change. On my Android it's found on 'settings', mobile networks.
October 21, 2011 10:04 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Also, in "manage accounts", for my 3 email addresses, I turned off the "sync".
October 21, 2011 10:05 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
On my Samsung Droid it's called 'Accounts & Sync'. (So simple, right? It took me a week to find it! : P)
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:06 AM
October 21, 2011 10:06 AM - petebklyn
they are probably just laughing inside with your waspy pronunciation of his name
October 21, 2011 10:08 AM - Arkady
dibs- You really should go to a Verizon shop & get the guy to show you some of that stuff. Makes life a lot easier.
I think Louis L'Amour is a hell of a lot better than Cussler. I was w/o a book on a transcontinental flight once & my seatmate offered me a Cussler - couldn't get past 4 pages of that dreck.
October 21, 2011 10:11 AM - boerumresident
Louis L'Amour is much more respectable than Clive Cussler -- who seems to have stopped writing his own stuff 15 or 20 years ago and just supervises the franchise (NTTIAWWT).
October 21, 2011 10:12 AM - boerumresident
And Delta Force is only watchable when Norris is on-screen; the few momemnts when he is not there it is pretty piss-poor.
October 21, 2011 10:13 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
There's also a way to save on phone minutes with a smart phone by using whatever wi-fi is available, but I haven't "mastered" that yet. And with our family plan, BH and I haven't used up our monthly allotment since we went on it 3 months ago anyway.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:14 AM
October 21, 2011 10:13 AM - Biff Champion
"Asia Carrera - Just looked her up. She is a member of MENSA"

I like my porn stars hot AND smart.
October 21, 2011 10:14 AM - dibs
I also don't like the fact that the "home page" doesn't show that there are new messages or texts, even after I have dragged both those icons there.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:16 AM
October 21, 2011 10:15 AM - dibs
yes, family plan is great. I only pay for 700 minutes and between my phone and the one I pay for for Fulgencio, we never get anywhere near it.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:15 AM
October 21, 2011 10:16 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
There may be a "notifications" setting you need to adjust, DIBS.

Mine shows little numbers on my text/mail icons on home page AND little icons on the top bar which is a drop down so you can see missed calls, messages, texts.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:16 AM
October 21, 2011 10:16 AM - Deleted
"Actually I suppose if I had to name a favorite director it would be Whit Stillman. Runner up: the guy who did Rushmore, The Life Aquatic, etc."

hell yeha - and the darjeerling express too right?
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:16 AM
October 21, 2011 10:17 AM - Slopefarm
Biff, you just look at her and marble.
October 21, 2011 10:17 AM - Deleted
new iphone IOS 5 is pretty sweet. iMessage > BBM. Sayonara blackberry!!
October 21, 2011 10:17 AM - boerumresident
Stillman supposedly has a new movie coming out this year.
October 21, 2011 10:18 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
On mine it's in the settings and called "notification slider".
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:18 AM
October 21, 2011 10:19 AM - Arkady
dibs - Mine's the same as CHiller's - little numbers on the icons showing messages, etc. I'm sure yours does it too.
October 21, 2011 10:19 AM - dibs
Well, Martin will be able to answer a lot of these questions and show me this weekend since he's been on Droid for quite a while
October 21, 2011 10:20 AM - dibs
Arkady, it doesn't. not sure how to enable that. I've checked a lot of the Settings, etc.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:20 AM
October 21, 2011 10:21 AM - Legion
Chuck Norris called,
He said that he directs, stars in and films all of his movies by himself.

...and he does all of these tasks at the same time.
It's a Chuck Norris world and you are all just extras.
October 21, 2011 10:21 AM - Biff Champion
"Biff, you just look at her and marble."

It took me a minute, but I finally got that!

After making 370 porn films, apparently Asia moved to a conservative neighbourhood for the sake of her family. I guess Carrera wanted to wipe the slate clean.
October 21, 2011 10:23 AM - MontroseMorris
Regarding Louis L'Amour. We got a whole box of his books at a yard sale when I was a kid, and I liked them too, although I now know they were formulaic genre writing, and I probably couldn't get through one now without rolling my eyes. I remember my favorite title was "Riders of the Purple Sage". Very evocative title that certainly sets up the mood and location of the book. He was a talented writer in many ways. Alas, like many genre writers of his day, which include Robert O. Howard and Edgar Rice Burroughs, his work is full of racist stereotypes. He really didn't like Mormons in his books. Unless they were attractive and helpless women waiting to be rescued.
October 21, 2011 10:23 AM - More4Less
mkt up big. I sticking out my big koolaid cup - someone please give me a generous pour or a super concentrated shot of it
October 21, 2011 10:24 AM - lechacal
Mensa is 2%. I don't associate myself with 2% types.
October 21, 2011 10:25 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ah, glad Martin has one too, he'll help you. BH had no clue! My "tech guru"! LOL!
October 21, 2011 10:25 AM - boerumresident
"like many genre writers of his day, which include Robert O. Howard and Edgar Rice Burroughs, his work is full of racist stereotypes"

V. true.

"He really didn't like Mormons in his books. Unless they were attractive and helpless women waiting to be rescued."

I didn't recall the LDS thing (although I only read a couple of his books in my youth). Fascinating.
October 21, 2011 10:26 AM - BoerumHillScott
I had a good friend who was totally obsessed with Asia Carrera during the late 90s.
She was one the people he most admired in the world.

Clive Cussler books are some of my favorite to read while traveling or camping.
They are so over the top and/or outright stupid that I get a lot of mindless entertainment value out of them.
October 21, 2011 10:27 AM - Arkady
When I worked as a waitress years ago the Mensa group who came for brunch on Sundays were the cheapest tippers & even though the menu said we gave free refills of coffee they always asked - every Sunday! - if refills were free. Only poorer tipper was Ed Koch who came after the V.I.D. meetings.
October 21, 2011 10:27 AM - More4Less
DH, besides the iMessenger, what other goodies have you noticed with the new OS. Given I have to stay with verizon (ie too may friends & family on Verizon that if I switch carriers, all those freebie minutes will no longer be free), am thinking the cheap ass move is get the iphone 4 (save $100 vs 4s) and hope the new OS makes the difference btwn the 2 phones very small
October 21, 2011 10:29 AM - More4Less
have to say, I think the European pornstars are better talent than the US ones.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:29 AM
October 21, 2011 10:30 AM - Slopefarm
The people in Mensa are not geniuses. The person who invented a club that got people to pay membership fees in exchange for being able to say they are members of an exclusive genius club is a genius.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:30 AM
October 21, 2011 10:30 AM - petebklyn
europeans are definitely kinkier. but not good tippers either.
October 21, 2011 10:32 AM - dibs
Sorry but Asian and latino porn stars are the best.
October 21, 2011 10:34 AM - Arkady
Anyone else doing The Times x-word puzzle contest this week?
October 21, 2011 10:35 AM - MontroseMorris
Boerumresident, I was one of those nerdy solitary kids who spent a lot of time reading, and L'Amour's books were a great read. A lot of his arch-baddies were powerful Mormon ranchers with huge spreads who were terrorizing either a town, or smaller ranchers, especially the widow or daughter of some poor schlub who got in his way, that he had killed. I don't think I even knew what a Mormon was at that point in life, but they were consistent villains in his books, so I really remember that. If they were sympathetic in any way, they usually didn't last long. He had much more respect for the Indians, although the usual villainous "half-breeds" didn't catch a break either.
October 21, 2011 10:37 AM - More4Less
Oh, this is something both Cat Lovers and Haters will get some giggle out of it:
http://www.27bslash6.com/missy.html
October 21, 2011 10:37 AM - Arkady
Owen Wister (The Virginian) was a better writer of westerns. Also Zane Grey.
October 21, 2011 10:41 AM - More4Less
oh boy, the other threads/stories on that above cat site is hilarious too.

Rob, you could have a similar or better site as this dude
October 21, 2011 10:42 AM - Biff Champion
What do people in China call their good plates?
October 21, 2011 10:44 AM - Deleted
"DH, besides the iMessenger, what other goodies have you noticed with the new OS"

there's an android style notification center accessible by swiping down the top of the screen. there's also a newsstand where you can subscribe to online newspapers and you can now access the camera by double clicking the home button when the phone is locked.
October 21, 2011 10:44 AM - Legion
M4L,
Last I heard,
they caught the missing cat on video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4&feature=related
October 21, 2011 10:44 AM - More4Less
Biff, I don't know how to post / type the Chinese words to answer your question ^^^^^
October 21, 2011 10:44 AM - Deleted
they also revamped push notificiations so they are less intrusive if you are in another program.
October 21, 2011 10:45 AM - Arkady
Wedgewood.
October 21, 2011 10:45 AM - boerumresident
MM -- I definitely recall treacherous half-breeds in the novels I read. I also recall one L'Amour novel that was a modern day novel involving a native american fighter pilot of a spy place who was shot down over the USSR and escapes all the way across Siberia -- it was awesome in a very obvious way retracing the original migration into North America.
October 21, 2011 10:45 AM - DeadCatBounce
Stock`Averages are right at resistance on a daily chart. If they can close above resistance, I will reposition myself at 100% long.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:45 AM
October 21, 2011 10:47 AM - dibs
"What do people in China call their good plates?"

Rimoges?
Nolitaki?
October 21, 2011 10:49 AM - dibs
DCB, already above 100 day MA...next stop 1,275 at 50 day. Market timing is for dummies.
October 21, 2011 10:51 AM - MontroseMorris
I'm really embarrassed. Riders of the Purple Sage, and everything else I was talking about is Zane Grey's work, not Louis L'Amour. How could I make such a mistake?? I got my western writers mixed up.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:51 AM
October 21, 2011 10:53 AM - dibs
MM, I figured you more for a jackie collins reader.
October 21, 2011 10:54 AM - Biff Champion
I prefer Tom Collins to Jackie Collins.
October 21, 2011 10:54 AM - Biff Champion
Benson's favourite author = Mario Puzo?
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:54 AM
October 21, 2011 10:54 AM - Arkady
Lash LaRue for you, MM.
October 21, 2011 10:55 AM - boerumresident
That might explain why I don't recall any Mormons.

Also, I was bored reading Wister's The Viriginians -- it was a little too soap opera-y for my taste.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:55 AM
October 21, 2011 10:57 AM - petebklyn
Portnoy's Complaint was more up my alley.
October 21, 2011 10:58 AM - Arkady
br - Nowadays Wister comes across that way but he was leading edge at the time of publication.
Edited at October 21, 2011 10:58 AM
October 21, 2011 10:59 AM - MontroseMorris
Dave, I've never read a Jackie Collins book in my life. Don't plan on doing so, either.
October 21, 2011 11:00 AM - dibs
"Dave, I've never read a Jackie Collins book in my life. Don't plan on doing so, either."

Elitist
October 21, 2011 11:02 AM - More4Less
DH, thx. that sounds good enough for me. I'll pop into the apple or verizon store after the 4s frenzy slows and play with both phones but I'm leaning to being a cheap ass and get the 4 and save the $100
October 21, 2011 11:02 AM - rf
Arkady, I hope that's not one of your cats!
October 21, 2011 11:02 AM - Legion
boerumresident,
I'm adjusting my OT regular visuals here,
are you male or female?
Age range?
October 21, 2011 11:03 AM - sixyearsandcounting
"I like my porn stars hot AND smart."

Biff, are you a sapiosexual?
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:03 AM
October 21, 2011 11:03 AM - Arkady
What time is the end of the world supposed to happen?
October 21, 2011 11:03 AM - dibs
m4l, I was in 2 verizon stores on Monday. no frenzy. Just don't go at lunch
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:03 AM
October 21, 2011 11:06 AM - Legion
Am I the only one feeling ambivilent about Ghadafi's death?

It's like, ok he's finally gone,
now what?
October 21, 2011 11:06 AM - MontroseMorris
Damn right, Dave. I've never read Danielle Steele, either.

I like popular fiction for a good light read, but not that stuff. I like mysteries, some political thrillers, science fiction and some fantasy. I enjoy books by John Grisham, among others, and one of my favorite mystery authors is James Lee Burke.
October 21, 2011 11:06 AM - Biff Champion
"Biff, are you a sapiosexual?""

WHAT?? I've never done anything untoward to a maple tree!!
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:06 AM
October 21, 2011 11:06 AM - dibs
Plus, you get better deals if you order online.
October 21, 2011 11:07 AM - Donatella
I was reading Portnoy's Complaint as a teenager. I left it somewhere in my parents house with a bookmark and then couldn't find it. Looked everywhere. EVERYWHERE. Asked EVERYONE. nope. nobody saw it. I know now that my mother got rid of it. I never talked to her about it. Come to think of it, I am going to ask her about it.
October 21, 2011 11:07 AM - Arkady
Times change. When I was a teen Marjorie Morningstar, Peyton Place, Last Exit to Brooklyn were considered porn.
October 21, 2011 11:08 AM - dibs
I read all of the Robert Parker "Spenser" crime novels. You can read one in about 2 hours or so.
October 21, 2011 11:08 AM - Deleted
yeah m4l - i don't think the 4s is worth the extra cash (unless you want the bigger capacity one)
October 21, 2011 11:08 AM - Slopefarm
Speaking of adjusting visuals, I'm still getting used to arkady's new whiskers, I mean beard.
October 21, 2011 11:08 AM - MontroseMorris
"Am I the only one feeling ambivilent about Ghadafi's death?"

One of the great issues of our time will be deciding the official spelling of his name. There must be at least 5 different versions going around.
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:08 AM
October 21, 2011 11:09 AM - Arkady
Slopey - It's her suit.
October 21, 2011 11:10 AM - Slopefarm
Yes, times change. My grandmother read all the major Yiddish writers except I.B. Singer, who she called a pornographer.
October 21, 2011 11:12 AM - Biff Champion
Per Time, the 10 Greatest Books of All-Time. How many have you read?

Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert
War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy
Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
Hamlet by William Shakespeare
The Great Gatsby F. Scott Fitzgerald
In Search of Lost Time by Marcel Proust
The Stories of Anton Chekhov by Anton Chekhov
Middlemarch by George Eliot

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1578073,00.html
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:14 AM
October 21, 2011 11:12 AM - Arkady
Although Anais Nin is still pretty raw even by today's standards.
October 21, 2011 11:13 AM - Slopefarm
Nice pun, arkady. I bet you've got more 'stached away.
October 21, 2011 11:14 AM - Donatella

It is the same story that it is going to be playing out in the wake of Arab spring, Legion. What is happening now in Egypt is concerning. Military leadership, suspension of elections, state of emergency for another year. We have very romantic ideas about these uprisings. But these countries don't have democratic traditions. Where's 6 years? What do you think will happen in Libya?
October 21, 2011 11:14 AM - Arkady
All but #s 1 & 10 & only part of Proust. Madame Bovary was an annual read in high school - even once in French. Now I have a cartoon version done by Posy Simmonds - really wonderful.
October 21, 2011 11:14 AM - Bedstuymaven
Biff - read 5
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:14 AM
October 21, 2011 11:15 AM - Biff Champion
"All but #s 1 & 10 & only part of Proust."

You're likely in the top 0.01%
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:15 AM
October 21, 2011 11:16 AM - Slopefarm
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy -- Yes
Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert -- No
War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy -- Got halfway through, saw the movie, heard the overture (saw Love and Death, too)
Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov -- No
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain -- Yes
Hamlet by William Shakespeare -- Yes
The Great Gatsby F. Scott Fitzgerald -- No
In Search of Lost Time by Marcel Proust -- No
The Stories of Anton Chekhov by Anton Chekhov -- No (Time thinks the stories are better than the plays?)
Middlemarch by George Eliot -- Yes


October 21, 2011 11:17 AM - Arkady
Yes, Slopey - but they're under lock & key.
October 21, 2011 11:17 AM - boerumresident
If pressed for time, I'd skip War and Peace and just stick with Anna Karenina.... Also, Lolita should be read only in a structured environment -- IMO it's too dense for solitary appreciation. Same with Morrison's Beloved. (and probably Joyce's Ulysses or Finnegan's Wake, but I never read either).
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:17 AM
October 21, 2011 11:18 AM - Donatella
I never read Lolita. (Saw the movie....CREEPY) I read War and Peace for the first time in Kansas City. Every night I read it before I went to bed. When I finished that book, I decided I would reread it regularly. Which I haven't. But it was wonderful. Also, Anna Karenina is a tighter, less rambling novel and an amazing, psychologically realist tragedy of a fallen woman. Whoa.
October 21, 2011 11:18 AM - bxgrl
Anything with Chuck Norris is unwatchable- I found Walker, Texas Ranger hysterically funny and stupid.

I never read Louis L'Amour (heck- Jewish, the Bronx?) but my parents had loads of classic literature books so I was reading De Maupassant, Dumas, Shakespeare and encyclopedias. and The Decameron- which greatly upset my mother when she found out.
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:18 AM
October 21, 2011 11:18 AM - Slopefarm
So that's 4.5 for me, though I should get half a point for The Cherry Orchard and The Three Sisters in lieu of the Chekhov stories.
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:18 AM
October 21, 2011 11:20 AM - boerumresident
Never read Proust
October 21, 2011 11:20 AM - bxgrl
Has anyone actually gotten through Moby Dick? I swear I will before I die but everytime I try I feel like I am being sucked down into verbal quicksand.
October 21, 2011 11:22 AM - bxgrl
I read extensive quotes from Proust. Always wanted to read more.
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:22 AM
October 21, 2011 11:23 AM - Biff Champion
"I swear I will before I die but everytime I try I feel like I am being sucked down into verbal quicksand."

That's one whale of a feeling.
October 21, 2011 11:24 AM - Slopefarm
I read it about 2 years ago. Had the same reaction. I also thought that Ahab was only half as obsessed as Melville was. Also, I've visited the Melville House in Lenox , MA. Top floor writer's room has a hexagonal window through which you can see Mt. Greylock and an adjacent peak. Looks uncannily like a whale from that view.
October 21, 2011 11:24 AM - Legion
boerumresident,
It's ok not to respond,
I'll just keep picturing you as a friendly wombat of indeterminate gender. ;o)
October 21, 2011 11:25 AM - Legion
I only read En Recherche Du Temps Perdu
in the original French.

The madelines taste better that way.
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:25 AM
October 21, 2011 11:25 AM - Donatella
I read 7.
October 21, 2011 11:26 AM - Arkady
I've read Moby Dick - didn't get into it but it's my ex-bf's fave book & I had to be able to get his references. I think it's easier to read those iconic things when you're younger. Rereading them when you're older is interesting to see how your point of view has changed & what different message you take from them.
(I'd never be able to catch up on movie-going enough to get filmic references on here.) (Nor music.)
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:26 AM
October 21, 2011 11:26 AM - Donatella
Huckleberry Finn is amazing too. What a kid. What heart. He would go to hell for Jim.
October 21, 2011 11:26 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Montrose - it's ?????? in Arabic, so the proper transliteration is Qadhdhafi. However...

First letter - ? - has no English equivalent but is usually something like Q, but many Arabs pronounce it as G (differences in dialects, but dialects are never written).
Second letter - ? - is like the th in other (not the th in three), but many Arabs pronounce it as Z. But it's also doubled in his name, like the t in "cattails" (sorry, can't think of a better example) so a proper spelling has dhdh in the middle, but that just looks stupid in English.
The rest is straightforward - ??? is -afi or -afy
October 21, 2011 11:28 AM - Legion
donatella,
You were up late yesterday!
I don't know what's going on in the Middle East these days.
There's a lot of hope for some sort of democratic change but I guess it's too early to tell.
These nations will be a test of the conventional wisdom that the instant-computer-web media
has the effect of making societies more open.
October 21, 2011 11:29 AM - boerumresident
Are wombats indeterminate? That's freaky for a mammal. But I can roll with it. As for age, I am a few years past that point when Dante found himself in dark forest.
October 21, 2011 11:31 AM - Arkady
Wombats know - females are wombs & males are bats.
October 21, 2011 11:32 AM - dibs
"As for age, I am a few years past that point when Dante found himself in dark forest."

[Rolling Eyes]
October 21, 2011 11:32 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Dona - I'm pretty worried about Libya, but unless there's a civil war, it can't be much worse than Qadhafi (or however you want to spell it). I think Saudi Arabia and Qatar - who oppose all the revolutions and democracy but supported the rebels because they hated Qadhafi - will make sure things don't get too crazy. They will provide money and expertise to ensure that al-Qaeda doesn't gain a foothold there and that Islamist forces will have the upper hand in an election (it will be hard to avoid having one now after the Western intervention - Egyptians for example are really keeping up the pressure on the military junta). But a Libya like that will be economically integrated with the West and opposed to Iran (another Saudi priority) and thus not really a threat to us. The real challenge for Libyans will be to build a proper state, which they've never had. Qadhafi's government wasn't organized along any traditional lines at all.
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:32 AM
October 21, 2011 11:33 AM - Donatella
You too, Legion. I came in from a presentation and went to dinner with someone with whom I am going to be working. We went to Cipriani's in Grand Central afterward. Wonderful food. Wonderful conversation. I watched your 6 minute NOM NOM NOM video.

Oh and in case others did not see my comment, I am getting remedial karaoke lessons. I know you would have no idea but I can actually sing in other environments. Why oh why does all ability to sync up key, rythym, etc. go out the window with that machine? I am determined to get at least one song I can sing without clearing out a room.
October 21, 2011 11:35 AM - bxgrl
I agree, Legion. And I think we will see a further polarization as the more fundamentalist groups try to get more power. If there is not strong government in place, they see it as an opening. And the internet will be a double edged sword- for all of us.
October 21, 2011 11:35 AM - MontroseMorris
Could never slog through Moby Dick, either, got about a third of the way through it.

I grew up upstate near Cooperstown, but don't know anyone who could wade through James Fenimore Cooper's works, either. They were required reading, and could make anyone swear off reading. Gives new meaning to the words "dense writing".
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:35 AM
October 21, 2011 11:35 AM - Arkady
Dona - Just have a few more drinks next time. I give myself an earache when I sing but that doesn't stop me.
October 21, 2011 11:37 AM - Arkady
MM - Wouldn't you know it, ex-bf also loved Cooper so I read those as an adult too. Talk about tedious! But some of the teens I mentor now were fascinated by several of them.
October 21, 2011 11:37 AM - Donatella
Thanks, 6 years. It is great to have your perspective. Do you ever read Stratfor? They have some pretty amazing geopolitical information. Ex-spooks writing analysis. I subscribed to them before the second Gulf war when our press was embedded in the military and there was NO REAL INFORMED public discussion about all of the factors leading up to that war. What a freaking nightmare. But I read Stratfor and got a lot of good info. I needed it for work too - to follow energy prices.
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:37 AM
October 21, 2011 11:37 AM - MontroseMorris
"I can actually sing in other environments. Why oh why does all ability to sync up key, rythym, etc. go out the window with that machine?"

I feel the same way, Dona. I've sung solo with orchestras, but can't sing worth beans with karaoke machines. Absolutely humiliating.
October 21, 2011 11:38 AM - DeadCatBounce
DIBS - think you mixed up 50 Day and 200 day.
The S&P 500 is above the 50 day. (1178)
Sitting at approx the 100 day Avg. (1232)
And below the 200 day moving average (2175)

If I had meant moving average, I would have said so, although the 100 day avg and resistance are practically the same level right now.

-The Dummy




October 21, 2011 11:39 AM - Donatella


Arkady, thanks for the suggestion! That would probably be 1) more fun 2) less time consuming. Is that Walt Whitman?
I was partial to that beautiful Siamese avatar. Nothing like changing it up. HA!!
October 21, 2011 11:39 AM - boerumresident
DIBS -- I couldn't think of any age appropriate references from the top 10 list earlier, but I recent re-read Inferno and was hit in the gut in that first line with the fact that I am closer to death than birth. Bummer.
October 21, 2011 11:40 AM - Deleted
Trivia fact about Mensa: for 40 years, the headquarters of its American branch was located in Brooklyn. In fact, it was located about 100 feet from my folks' house in Gravesend: 1701 West 3rd Street, which was just a run-of-the-mill apartment building.

More info:

http://www.am.us.mensa.org/Content/AML/NavigationMenu/AboutMensa/HistoryofMensa/MensaHistory.htm
October 21, 2011 11:40 AM - Deleted
"so a proper spelling has dhdh in the middle"

word
October 21, 2011 11:40 AM - Donatella
Thanks for saying that MM. I feel better now. :-)
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:40 AM
October 21, 2011 11:41 AM - MontroseMorris
Thanks, Six! Do you have a special Arabic keyboard? That 's really cool.

Arkady, Cooper's stories are great. But.....Tedious is a great term for the writing. It's like eating too much rich dessert. The brain just feels overweight.
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:41 AM
October 21, 2011 11:41 AM - Slopefarm
benson -- if you are around, you might venture over to brownstoner. You may have grown up with the guy they interview in the "hotseat' thread. Oh, and dibs, I just saw your response in the "costume window" forum thread. ROFL!
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:41 AM
October 21, 2011 11:41 AM - Donatella
Somebody took me to a Mensa gathering once. LASTING MEMORY: These were the stinkiest, worst groomed geeky creeps I ever met.
October 21, 2011 11:41 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
CobbleSnaps is gonna have a glitter sale. We are raising money for an autotune machine for when we do karaoke. Dave, I'm lookin' at you!

:-)
October 21, 2011 11:42 AM - Arkady
Dona - It's Darwin. I took the shot at Down House this summer. (I figured it was a better choice than the 3 finches that got everyone upset.)
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:42 AM
October 21, 2011 11:42 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Hey, where has Denton been?
October 21, 2011 11:43 AM - etson
I score zero on the greatest books list.
October 21, 2011 11:44 AM - Donatella
Wow, he looks so grim, Arkady. He was thinking about the bottom of the phylogenetic scale.
October 21, 2011 11:46 AM - Legion
ha ha donatella,
There is a 10 hour version of the NOM NOM NOM video that I posted this morning.

I too am practicing karaoke so I can give it a shot.
I think the trick is finding a song you know well and where your voice roughly matches the range of the original vocalist.

...or maybe it's just having a couple of more drinks like Arkady said.
October 21, 2011 11:46 AM - Arkady
No, Dona. He was gritting his teeth because I asked him to come away w/ me & he was tempted but didn't want to leave his wife & hearth.
October 21, 2011 11:46 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Actually, that pic of him looks like the creepy old molester grandpa from those ABC After School Specials. Anyone remember those?
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:46 AM
October 21, 2011 11:48 AM - Arkady
So should I do the dead finches instead?
October 21, 2011 11:48 AM - Deleted
why does arkady have santa clause as her avatar?
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:48 AM
October 21, 2011 11:49 AM - Slopefarm
The trick is:
1. Alcohol
2. Pick a song you know well . . .
3. . . . that isn't particularly melodic and doesn't require you to hold a note very long . . .
4. Alcohol
5. . . . Maybe a song you can just kind of shout, talk or rap your way through . . .
6. Or one that everyone else will sing along with and not hear you so well.
7. More alcohol.
October 21, 2011 11:50 AM - dibs
hey, dh...what is the name of that restaurant (bushwick?) that we were talking about weeks ago?? Theu had a lot of offal and maybe foie gras, pork belly etc
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:52 AM
October 21, 2011 11:50 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
no, go back to cats. a lot less frightening.
October 21, 2011 11:50 AM - Legion
bxgrl,
It's hard keeping track of all the upheaval going on.
I think the web has also made the world a lot more anxious.


Edited at October 21, 2011 11:50 AM
October 21, 2011 11:51 AM - Arkady
Too early for Santa!!
October 21, 2011 11:51 AM - Donatella
Yes, Arkady, I can see it now. I WANT to....but I CAN'T. The sadness and pathos of taking the high road. Of being a moral man. "But I'll always love you".
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:51 AM
October 21, 2011 11:52 AM - bxgrl
I agree with that too, Legion. Plus there's no filter and it's hard to know how much is factual or how much is fantasy and hearsay.
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:52 AM
October 21, 2011 11:54 AM - sixyearsandcounting
MM (or ??????? ????? in Arabic), yes, I got this laptop when I lived in Dubai so it has both Arabic and English. It's getting old and slow but I don't want to throw it away for that reason - I know I can get a keyboard like that here but I've heard it's pretty expensive.

Dona - I agree, Stratfor's geopolitics stuff is really good. I have a book by the CEO, published in 2003 or so, that more or less correctly predicted the course of the war on terror in AfPak.
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:54 AM
October 21, 2011 11:57 AM - Deleted
dibs - roberta's? i think we were discussing after their 2 star NYT review.

RIP Sifton. haha
October 21, 2011 11:59 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
WHY DO I GET ALL THE FUCKED UP CASES? WHY?

WHY WHY WHY? ARGGHHH!

just had to let that out. carry on...
October 21, 2011 11:59 AM - Deleted
this song/video rules

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ1LI-NTa2s


October 21, 2011 12:00 PM - More4Less
Speaking of pork belly, am hooked on this spicy sliced pork belly (Szechuan style) appetizer. I blame it as for my resurgent belt line
October 21, 2011 12:01 PM - Deleted
Slopey;

I know of Paul Basile, but I don't know him personally.

Speaking of people I know, and coupling in my comments yesterday about the old Copacabana: does anyone remember the scene in Goodfellas wherein the Maitre d' of the Copa leads the mobsters into the place via the kitchen? One of the guys I play poker with is the actor who played the Maitre d' in that scene. How about that!
October 21, 2011 12:02 PM - Donatella
6 years, I read information by Stratfor that helped to explain the crazy, complicated political/religious government organization in Iran around the time of Ahmadinejad's contested election win. It was also important for energy but you are not going to get that kind of info in the popular press.
October 21, 2011 12:03 PM - Bedstuymaven
I have a friend who was on the the Joey's in Good Fellas. He is still tending bar
Edited at October 21, 2011 12:03 PM
October 21, 2011 12:08 PM - Donatella
Ok, Snappy, I see you need that meditation course. Takes 5 minutes. Sit in a chair. Feet squarely on the ground. Breathe deeply and pay attention to the tension in your body and where it is. Keep breathing. There are visualizations about light which sound wierd and I can tell you how to do, but just sitting for a few minutes and paying attention to your breath for 5 minutes or so can really transform how you feel.

Also, I would like to testify to my own continuing quest for greater self control and calmness. I made a solemn vow never to flip anyone the bird ever again. (Met up with a psycho on the road and it wasn't a smart move). I was wearing a ribbon on my middle finger for a while to remind me NOT to do it. I have not flipped anyone the bird on the road for a month.
Edited at October 21, 2011 12:08 PM
October 21, 2011 12:10 PM - Slopefarm
They're all f%^ked cases, snaps.
Edited at October 21, 2011 12:10 PM
October 21, 2011 12:13 PM - Bedstuymaven
WHY DO I GET ALL THE FUCKED UP CASES? WHY?

Because you are brilliant and you can handle them
October 21, 2011 12:14 PM - bxgrl
snappy- chocolate is calming an soothing- I'll eat a chocolate bar for you. No,no- please, my small sacrifice to get you peace of mind is in the interest of friendship. :)
October 21, 2011 12:15 PM - Bedstuymaven
snappy- chocolate is calming an soothing- I'll eat a chocolate bar for you. No,no- please, my small sacrifice to get you peace of mind is in the interest of friendship. :)

Bxgrl - you are a great friend. I am inspired by you. I am going to make a similar sacrifice and have some ice cream
October 21, 2011 12:21 PM - More4Less
Snaps, somewhere someone is eating spam, margarine, powder milk,.... - ie much worst off
October 21, 2011 12:21 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Will one of you go smoke a ciggy for me please??? :-)

Slopey, I'm dealing with a case where the same discovery items have been outstanding FOR OVER A YEAR. RIDICULOUS.

GAH!
October 21, 2011 12:22 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
m4l, if I get to go home right now, I'll eat all that. powdered eggs too.
October 21, 2011 12:26 PM - Legion
benson and bsm,
small world,
I know the guy in Goodfellas who comes to the door announcing himself as a detective to search the house.
He's a retired NYPD Detective in real life.


snappy,
watch the NOM NOM video for relaxation purposes.
October 21, 2011 12:31 PM - bxgrl
BSM- why thank you!Isn't it wonderful what good friends snappy has?

Right, snappy?
October 21, 2011 12:31 PM - More4Less
Snaps, I've watched enough lawyer movies and sitcoms to know 1 yr is way-past due for discovery items. isn't that when a judge tells a lawyer, you in contempt or something?
October 21, 2011 12:33 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
M4L, it's when the atty throws her hands in the air, proclaims everyone around her to be a jackass, storms out to get a burrito for lunch, and then dares anyone to come into her office and deal with the gastrointestinal aftermath of said lunch :-)

BSM and Bxgirl, oh the sacrifices you two have made! SNORT!!!
October 21, 2011 12:35 PM - Donatella


Snappy, it is FRIDAY. Meditate on that for a little while. You will feel better.
Edited at October 21, 2011 12:35 PM
October 21, 2011 12:39 PM - More4Less
GQ Mag proclaims BK the "Coolest city on the planet" in upcoming Nov issue:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/hip_hipster_hooray_for_klyn_ikH1gJbo7RsIt0VhRe18lJ
Edited at October 21, 2011 12:39 PM
October 21, 2011 12:44 PM - Arkady
We forgot Cornelia St for intimate jazz, etc.
I'll sacrifice for Snappy's well being too. No choc in the house so I have to run get it.
October 21, 2011 12:48 PM - bxgrl
It is true, snappy. BSM and I are awesome in our sacrifices for you (and don't you forget it!).
October 21, 2011 12:55 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I, too, will make a sacrifice for my dear friend, Snaps. After I finish the laundry, I will treat myself to cookies.

(Btw, Is it wrong to want to drink wine while you do laundry?)
October 21, 2011 12:56 PM - sixyearsandcounting
From one of my grad school readings, on biological pest control in Japan:

"Imagine a monstrous, heavily armored, flying creature of about one hundred pounds - about the size of a very large dog - catching you by surprise in the midst of sexual intercourse (after having stalked you for days) and then violently wrestling you to the ground. Before you can squirm free, the monstrous creature has positioned its abdomen near your head and, with a pumping and gyrating motion, laid its moist, sticky eggs on your throat and flown away with a loud buzz. You try but you cannot dislodge them. Sure, as a human you are clever;: after this traumatic event, you can go about your business for a week in denial, maybe visit an ear, nose, and throat specialist, or even a grief counselor of some kind; but for all intents and purposes you are done. You will die a hideous death as the monster's young burrow inside you and eat your innards until only your flabby, lifeless skin remains."
October 21, 2011 12:56 PM - Biff Champion
"Somebody took me to a Mensa gathering once. LASTING MEMORY: These were the stinkiest, worst groomed geeky creeps I ever met."

Did you mean to say "Mensa" or "PLUSA"?
October 21, 2011 12:57 PM - Biff Champion
"small world"

But I'd hate to have to paint it.
Edited at October 21, 2011 12:57 PM
October 21, 2011 12:58 PM - bxgrl
Heck no! It's a great idea and the alcohol sanitizes your system the same way soap cleans your laundry so there is a certain metaphoric serendipity about the whole thing. Better still- put the wine in a clean laundry soap jug. A wine glass might appear too elitist when washing clothes.
Edited at October 21, 2011 12:58 PM
October 21, 2011 12:58 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Six, It just happened. A woman I met in the elevator asked me how much rent we are paying. Is this normal? It was very uncomfortable! I tried to dodge it, but she pressed!
October 21, 2011 12:59 PM - Slopefarm
"Imagine a monstrous, heavily armored, flying creature of about one hundred pounds" . . .

Wow, the effects of radioactivity are worse than I thought. Those monster movies were telling the truth!!!
October 21, 2011 12:59 PM - bxgrl
Six years- OMG!!!!! Ugh! Phew! EEEEEEKKKK!!! Ack!
lovely story- did Melville write that?
October 21, 2011 1:00 PM - sixyearsandcounting
That's crazy, cobble! I mean, I can see why she'd want to know, but it's pretty rude! Was she an old-timer or one of these ill-mannered new arrivals?
October 21, 2011 1:00 PM - bxgrl
cobble- when someone does that I just tell them that I prefer to keep that kind of information private.
October 21, 2011 1:02 PM - sixyearsandcounting
the book is Toxic Archipelago, by Brett Walker...pretty gruesome reading! Although now that you mention it, Slopey, those monster movies make far more sense than they used to!
October 21, 2011 1:02 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"A wine glass might appear too elitist when washing clothes."

Snort!

Ok, this is an ****embarrassing but true confession****. I have not done my own laundry in over 17 years. I had to sit down and read detergent jug. And it took me 5 minutes to read the washing machine instructions and figure out how to use it.

I'll go hang my head in shame now.
October 21, 2011 1:04 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Six, I'm gonna guess she's been living here for awhile. She probably chuckled all the way back to her apt! When I told her (g*d, I can't believe I told her!) she asked if it was one of the BIG apts. Oh, fer f*cks sake.
October 21, 2011 1:04 PM - bxgrl
I'm with you, cobble. It takes years before you really learn what direction to scrub the clothes on the rocks to get them really clean.
October 21, 2011 1:06 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"It takes years before you really learn what direction to scrub the clothes on the rocks to get them really clean."

Snort!
October 21, 2011 1:07 PM - More4Less
Cobble, what???? your boyfriends have been doing the laundry or you've been going the drop-off route? 17 yrs????
October 21, 2011 1:10 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
M4L, It gets worse!!! The service I used picked it up and dropped it off.
October 21, 2011 1:11 PM - More4Less
Cobble, did you tell that lady "But I have real GRANITE counters"?
October 21, 2011 1:12 PM - petebklyn
I asked you this the other day whether someone in bldg had asked yet. In R/S bldgs they all wanna know.
October 21, 2011 1:12 PM - Biff Champion
I do all of the laundry for the family now (although I still bring in my shirts and suits for cleaning). It's one of the few household chores I don't mind. Don't tell that to Mrs. C though...
October 21, 2011 1:14 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"did you tell that lady "But I have real GRANITE counters"?"

LOL! NO! I absolutely did not say that! But one of my other neighbors, right next door, confessed that he had toured the apt after it was done and before we moved in and said "it's a REALLY nice apt., the kitchen is great". We must be the talk of the building. ACK!!!!
Edited at October 21, 2011 1:14 PM
October 21, 2011 1:14 PM - DeLepp
I didn't expect Kate to know how to do wash.

Tell the bitty you're paying $500/month and watch her drool.
October 21, 2011 1:15 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I asked you this the other day whether someone in bldg had asked yet. In R/S bldgs they all wanna know."

Ah! I thought it was Six who asked that, Pete. Crazy! Next time, I'm zipping my lips!
Edited at October 21, 2011 1:15 PM
October 21, 2011 1:15 PM - More4Less
Cobble, my wife's svc even includes putting the clothing into the closet, draws, etc - it's called the husband (aka me)
October 21, 2011 1:15 PM - rf
Cobble,
1. you can usually use less detergent than the bottle says.
2. use fabric softener and make sure you put it into the machine properly. It rinses out the extra detergent.
3. take the stuff out of the dryer as soon as it's dry.
October 21, 2011 1:17 PM - BoerumHillScott
I do the laundry most of the time in my family.
I almost never have anything professionally cleaned, and I have never paid anyone for general laundry.
October 21, 2011 1:17 PM - Donatella


Cobble, for questions like that, best to act like a flake.

"I forgot".
"My boyfriend handles all those annoying details"
"It keeps changing"
"I'm not sure"
"How much were those shoes?"
"Do you have a glass eye"?
October 21, 2011 1:18 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I didn't expect Kate to know how to do wash."

I DID know how to do wash...uhm...years ago! It's amazing how quickly all this goes right out of your head! I'm dying to see how these first two loads come out. I did separate the darks, whites/lights, and I added Oxyclean laundry booster to them. Do I need to use Bounce in the dryer? I forget, or will it be all static-y. This is some learning curve! LOL!
October 21, 2011 1:19 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
""Do you have a glass eye"?"

ROFLMMFAO!
October 21, 2011 1:19 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
" use fabric softener "

Uh-oh, I've f*cked it up already!
October 21, 2011 1:20 PM - sixyearsandcounting
So Cobble, how much do you pay for rent? ;)))
October 21, 2011 1:20 PM - rf
It's ok. Next time!
October 21, 2011 1:20 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
""My boyfriend handles all those annoying details"
"It keeps changing""

SNORT! Yes, I think I'll take the dumb wife approach. After they get a load of me in the laundry room, it won't be a huge leap for them!
: P
October 21, 2011 1:21 PM - DeLepp
righto dona!
October 21, 2011 1:22 PM - Biff Champion
Top 10 Books You Were Forced to Read in School

How many of these have you read?

• To Kill a Mockingbird
• Of Mice and Men
• A Separate Peace
• The Catcher in the Rye
• Animal Farm
• Lord of the Flies
• The Great Gatsby
• A Farewell to Arms
• The Scarlet Letter
• Macbeth

http://entertainment.time.com/2010/07/09/top-10-books-you-were-forced-to-read-in-school/#ixzz1bQgzVdUJ

October 21, 2011 1:22 PM - Donatella
oh, oh, oh.......I forgot. THIS IS THE BEST.

I have this lovely friend. She is highly educated. 70 years old. A psychologist. Broad interests. Brought up very Waspy in Boston, all private schools, etc. etc.

I asked her directly about 9 months after Obama was elected......."So how do you think Obama is doing?"

She smiled at me sweetly, looked up at me over brunch, and simply did not answer. She just waited. I guess for me to change the subject. Which I did.

Just don't answer. It's perfect. It's like you are in a hermetically sealed container, where you can't hear the person, you just smile.

Life learning experience: Some people think that political discussions over a nice meal are.......well.....impolite. ha!
Edited at October 21, 2011 1:22 PM
October 21, 2011 1:22 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
So, uhm, uh, what kind of fabric softener should I get? Downy? I got Arm & Hammer detergent, and the Oxyclean booster, is that ok? And now I need fabric softener, and don't I need dryer sheets, too?

Cripes! Someone find me a laundry service! No wonder I paid for this!! ; )
October 21, 2011 1:22 PM - petebklyn
I don't use fabric softener. nor those dryer sheets.
Edited at October 21, 2011 1:22 PM
October 21, 2011 1:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
7 again, Biff.

• To Kill a Mockingbird
• The Catcher in the Rye
• Animal Farm
• Lord of the Flies
• The Great Gatsby
• The Scarlet Letter
• Macbeth
October 21, 2011 1:24 PM - petebklyn
do your clothes really get that dirty? are you a mechanic in auto shop or landscaper or do something that warrants a segment on Dirtiest Jobs?
October 21, 2011 1:25 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Uh-oh! 40 minutes is up! Next adventure...THE DRYER!!

Stay tuned...for more of Cobble's Adventures with Laundry!! ; )
October 21, 2011 1:26 PM - More4Less
Pete, me too. when my wife told me to do all that (softener, dryer sheets, iron, etc.), I told her "it's my way or you do it yourself". I'm still doing the laundry but that angle got me out of cooking (ie not as soft, pressed, folded,... as I like is a lot easier to tolerate than shitty cooking)
October 21, 2011 1:28 PM - Donatella
I read all of them, except a separate peace. These are things I read for school.

Non-sequitor......

I think that the Real Estate Board or whoever gives out the NY State Realtor licenses should have prominently as QUESTION #1. Which is correct? The apartment has a:
1) a seperate dining room
OR
2) a separate dining room

Any aspiring realtor who can't spell SEPARATE can't get a license. How many freaking people write adds about "seperate"
rooms????
October 21, 2011 1:30 PM - sixyearsandcounting
cobble, i see you're avoiding my question at 1:20 :)
October 21, 2011 1:31 PM - rf
Fabric softener: get something that doesn't stink. I like Downy in the white bottle, no smell. I use Oxyclean, but not a whole lot.

I don't bother with dryer sheets. They help with the static but I like softener because it rinses out the detergent.

I just looked at some websites but they were hopelessly complicated. I go to the laundromat where they have front loaders, big ones, that finish in half an hour. I do all underwear, towels, sheets in hot water with Tide. I do just about everything else in cold water. I wash bras with the coldwater stuff in a net bag and line dry them at home. Everything else in the dryer, set for hot. I separate the dryer stuff by what takes more or less time. The less-time stuff tends to take longer to fold so it all works out. But if you use the hot setting, be sure to check every 15 mins to make sure it's not blowing around in there already dry.


October 21, 2011 1:31 PM - rf
Re the rent question: you can say, "Why do you ask?" I've used that when I get questions about my kid that I didn't want to answer.
Edited at October 21, 2011 1:31 PM
October 21, 2011 1:32 PM - More4Less
only ready 3 of those biff books - guess that's why I bombed the english portion of SAT
Edited at October 21, 2011 1:32 PM
October 21, 2011 1:34 PM - Biff Champion
I bet Arkady's read all 10 of them.
October 21, 2011 1:36 PM - Slopefarm
• To Kill a Mockingbird -- no (assigned in 9th grade English but I managed not to read it without flunking)
• Of Mice and Men -- yes
• A Separate Peace -- yes (why, why is this darn thing considered worth the trouble)
• The Catcher in the Rye -- yes (also overrated)
• Animal Farm -- yes (ditto)
• Lord of the Flies -- yes (double ditto)
• The Great Gatsby -- no
• A Farewell to Arms -- no
• The Scarlet Letter -- no
• Macbeth -- yes (and saw Throne of Blood, twice)

P.S. The real MacBeth was an excellent king, ruled for 17 years. Every king of Scotland in the 900-s-1100s ascended to the throne in more or less the same bloody way. There were multiple lines descended from Kenneth MacAlpin, ald Scotland had a tradition of rotating the kingship between the two main lines, and of assasination once the king aged and lost effectiveness as a warrior. Shakespeare maligns MacBeth by suggesting he had no bloodline claim to the throne but his claim was at least as strong as anyone's at the time. The whole rationale of the play falls apart once you realize MacBeth was not a usurper. But Kirosawa's version is excellent.


October 21, 2011 1:39 PM - More4Less
6yrs, I can confidently tell you that "it's cheaper to rent than to buy" - if that's what you comtemplating
October 21, 2011 1:39 PM - Donatella

Obsessive/compulsive admission.

I have NEVER had another person (except my mother) do my laundry. Even my mother wrecks stuff. Well, now she often wrecks stuff actually. I have "ways" to do wash. I separate (notice the correct spelling) clothes according to fabric and color. I have only white towels which I wash with real bleach on hot. I have white/light synthetic light clothing which I wash on cold with only detergent. I have darks most of which are synthetic fibers. All separate. Then I dry these things in all different ways, times, heat settings. The thing that inspired me mostly was looking at my good friend who lived next door to me in Manhattan for 9 years. All her clothes were screwed up. All her white stuff (underwear etc) was a light GREY. I also never go to nail salons. But that is another story.
October 21, 2011 1:39 PM - BoerumHillScott
I read all of the assigned books in school.
October 21, 2011 1:41 PM - CGar
No sign of COBBLEHILLER at Ikea.
Edited at October 21, 2011 1:41 PM
October 21, 2011 1:43 PM - CGar
Biff, I read all 10 of those books in school, some several times. That list includes some of my faves. And, you, Phineas, should read or re-read A Separate Peace.
October 21, 2011 1:43 PM - sixyearsandcounting
M4L, I already own. That puts me in the 67.4%.
October 21, 2011 1:43 PM - More4Less
CGar, if you offer to do her laundry, I think Cobble will let you put up a tent in the aptmt
October 21, 2011 1:44 PM - Donatella


DOES SCATHING CONSUMER CRITICISM WORK??????

I gave Travelers' insurance a grade of F on the customer satisfaction survey. It was colorfully written - funny I thought - about the tremendously bad experience I had with the rainstorm which screwed up my roof, tenant's apartment, floor, walls, ceilings etc. They had me wait for 3 weeks before they got an adjuster there and then turned me down. Why? They had all the facts up front. They said I wasn't covered for water backup????

Anyway, they reopened the case. And they are giving me $6,096.12 (minus deductible) equaling 3596.12.

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited at October 21, 2011 1:44 PM
October 21, 2011 1:46 PM - More4Less
6yrs, I know you own. was just conveying that you could sell then rent and pocket the cap gains and be ahead on all counts
October 21, 2011 1:47 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"cobble, i see you're avoiding my question at 1:20 :)"

I'm learning!!

"No sign of COBBLEHILLER at Ikea."

I know, I was supposed to go buy rugs today. But I'm regaling you all with my laundry and new neighbor adventures instead! : P


Edited at October 21, 2011 1:50 PM
October 21, 2011 1:47 PM - etson
I score one on that book list (Animal Farm).
Had to do Lord of the Rings (hated it at the time) but not Lord of the Flies.

I gave up English Lit as soon as I could. Never regretted it. My sister OTOH loves reading fiction & majored in English.
October 21, 2011 1:47 PM - Donatella
wow, rf, that's pretty much what I do.

....is somebody at the laundramat going to do that?
October 21, 2011 1:48 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
AND...very importantly...separating all the quarters out of BH's change jar!
October 21, 2011 1:48 PM - More4Less
Donatella, you lucky. I've been giving recently "rip you a new asshole" type feedback to a few recurring vendors of mine but haven't seen a juicy outcome like yours. go buy lotto tix - you on a hot roll here
Edited at October 21, 2011 1:48 PM
October 21, 2011 1:48 PM - sixyearsandcounting
M4L, I never thought of that. But then, lack of financial acumen explains why I'm in grad school.
October 21, 2011 1:55 PM - More4Less
6yrs, that's only true if you score a nice rent stabilized pad like cobble did - as I presume rents in your hood is also spiking recently. Rents have spiked enough in Clinton that I'm mentally entertaining the option of renting out my pad vs selling it
Edited at October 21, 2011 1:54 PM
October 21, 2011 1:55 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Cobbly, if you go to Ikea on a weekend, lemme know! I go with ya.
October 21, 2011 1:55 PM - Deleted
Donatella;

Third warning......

I'm not sure you saw my response yesterday so I'll repeat it: the adjuster's interests are not totally in sync with yours. His sole mission in life is to extract money from the insurance companies, so he can get his cut. He does not care about the after-effect on your loss record.

Also: don't be fooled by assurances from brokers. They are salesmen, not underwriters. I had one broker tell me that my MIL's loss record was not a problem, wrote up a policy for me and was happy to have my check. Two weeks later, the insurance company cancelled when the underwriter reviewed her claims record.
October 21, 2011 1:56 PM - More4Less
6yrs, btw, I think you're in grad school to chase tails. We all can recall and agree that college was the best "hunting grounds"
October 21, 2011 1:57 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
The laundry service I used did a wonderful job. They separated the colors. They would even bleach whites. My clothes looked fantastic. The elastics didn't get melted in the dryer. They folded things nicely. They delivered when they said they would. They were WORTH EVERY G*DDAMN F*CKING PENNY!
October 21, 2011 1:58 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Cobbly, if you go to Ikea on a weekend, lemme know! I go with ya."

That would be great, Snaps! Maybe manana?
October 21, 2011 1:59 PM - rf
Donatella, the laundromat I use provides wash-dry-fold service. They do a really excellent job. They even deliver but not to Clinton Hill! It's on the same block (same side) as Peaches Hothouse.

I sort the stuff at home into hot and cold and schlep it in a shopping cart. From the time I walk in to the time I walk out is usually about 90 mins. I fold my shirts and put them on top of the clean stuff, then hang them on hangers as soon as I get home and they look good. But we don't have any fussy or dressy clothes. I have an iron and ironing board but very rarely use them. They have a range of washer sizes and usually I use 2 machines. I go once a week and do my kid's stuff too, including heavy tees and shorts and sweats for gym. If she has any complaints, I tell her what m4l tells his wife.
Edited at October 21, 2011 1:59 PM
October 21, 2011 2:00 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"I think you're in grad school to chase tails."

M4L, don't let my secrets out!
October 21, 2011 2:00 PM - MontroseMorris
Booklist, read all except Of Mice and Men and A Farewell to Arms.

The original movie of "Lord of the Flies" scared the hell out of me in junior high school. I could just picture some of the kids in my school trapped on an island. They would have come out just the same.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:00 PM
October 21, 2011 2:00 PM - rf
Snappy and cobble, we could go together on Sunday. I can't go Saturday.
October 21, 2011 2:02 PM - sixyearsandcounting
WTF I was just vacuuming and my downstairs neighbor starts banging on my floor/her ceiling. It's 2 pm, lady, WHEN DO YOU WANT ME TO VACUUM? This is the same woman who banged on her ceiling during the earthquake and yelled at me to "stop making all that noise"
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:02 PM
October 21, 2011 2:02 PM - rf
U.S. Troops to Leave Iraq by Year’s End, Obama Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/22/world/middleeast/president-obama-announces-end-of-war-in-iraq.html?hp
October 21, 2011 2:04 PM - Deleted
One of the great pleasures of modern construction is how sound-proof it is, both to exterior noise and that emanating from upstairs/downstairs neighbors.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:04 PM
October 21, 2011 2:08 PM - Slopefarm
"One of the great pleasures of modern construction is how sound-proof it is, both to exterior noise and that emanating from upstairs/downstairs neighbors."

Unless the builder goes cheap. We briefly sublet in new construction on 4th near President a few years back. Not so quiet. The materials and techniques are there to be used, but sometimes corners are cut to save $$$. You have to check each building out.

Edited at October 21, 2011 2:08 PM
October 21, 2011 2:12 PM - BoerumHillScott
The only noises from other units I ever hear are from the hall through the main door.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:12 PM
October 21, 2011 2:12 PM - Biff Champion
My personal experience is that brownstones and pre-war buildings are much more sound proof than modern buildings.
October 21, 2011 2:14 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Stay tuned...for more of Cobble's Adventures with Laundry!! ; )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHyp-dVv8LQ

im in a bad mood, so leave me alone... i just got booted from another website during an art competition. grrrrrrrrrr

*rob*
October 21, 2011 2:15 PM - Biff Champion
That's from the perspective of interior sounds (through the walls, downstairs, upstairs, next door). However, many newer buildings seem to have more soundproof windows, thus minimizing the sound bleeding in from outside.
October 21, 2011 2:16 PM - boerumresident
If the question is what did I have to read in school:
• To Kill a Mockingbird -- no
• Of Mice and Men -- no
• A Separate Peace -- no
• The Catcher in the Rye -- no
• Animal Farm -- no
• Lord of the Flies -- yes
• The Great Gatsby -- yes
• A Farewell to Arms -- yes
• The Scarlet Letter -- yes
• Macbeth -- yes

I read Animal Farm on my own, but never made it around to the others. I have a hard time believing that Farewell to Arms is that often assigned. I would think Old Man and the Sea would be the usual Hemmingway assignment. I also though that Romeo & Juliet would top for Shakespeare, maybe followed by MacBeth or Julius Caesar.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:16 PM
October 21, 2011 2:17 PM - sixyearsandcounting
My building was built in 1960. The previous downstairs neighbor claimed my footsteps got a lot louder after I had the floors done.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:17 PM
October 21, 2011 2:19 PM - Donatella
I hear you Benson, so what does one do?

Get insurance for the mortgage but not process a legitimate claim?

Also maybe I have a lot more self education, but I wasn't aware that the adjuster got a "cut" of his disbursements. In fact, I do believe that my very detailed explanation of the incoherent claims process prompted a spanking of this adjuster. He was tripping over himself with apologies and obliquely referenced my "displeasure" with the claim process on this issue.
October 21, 2011 2:21 PM - Donatella
Re soundproof-ness, this building absorbs everything. I hear nothing.
October 21, 2011 2:21 PM - Arkady
Didn't read Of Mice & Men nor A Separate Peace.
I prefer dryer sheets to softener. Sheets go in w/ clothes when they dry, softener has to be added which means you can't walk away to do something else. I use 1/3 of a dryer sheet at a time & half the amount of Liquid Tide recommended. A niece of mine at P&G told me that was ample (after telling me that P&G laundry products had 98% household penetration & I told her not to talk dirty to her aunt.)
October 21, 2011 2:24 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
" It's 2 pm, lady, WHEN DO YOU WANT ME TO VACUUM?"

I'd be tempted to actually go down and ask her that with a straight face. Or make suggestions, such as would Next Thursday at 3pm be alright with you? Or would it be better if I waited until 10pm on Saturday? Or perhaps you prefer 3am on Tuesdays?
October 21, 2011 2:25 PM - dibs
"Some people think that political discussions over a nice meal are.......well.....impolite."

Certainly not at civilized places like La Grenouille.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:25 PM
October 21, 2011 2:26 PM - dibs
"One of the great pleasures of modern construction is how sound-proof it is, both to exterior noise and that emanating from upstairs/downstairs neighbors."

I guess you've never been in A Fedders building.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:26 PM
October 21, 2011 2:26 PM - Deleted
Donatella;

Is it the insurance company's adjuster or one you hired? If it is the latter, he gets about 6% of the take.

The damage is done (meaning, you made the claim already - no pun intended) so there is nothing that you can do. Just be aware that it might be a pyrrhic victory come renewal time. Also, if futher damage should come to your building in the near term, I would strongly advise to think twice before submitting a claim, especially if it is small amount. As I said yesterday, two claims in three years seems to be the metric.
October 21, 2011 2:26 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oh lord, the moral rectitude and virtuousness of some people is just too much for this mere mortal to take some days.

I'm going to fold my laundry and start the last wash, if the kooky looking but very nice old guy didn't steal my washer! : P
October 21, 2011 2:28 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
laundry *twins*

October 21, 2011 2:28 PM - Biff Champion
"The damage is done (meaning, you made the claim already - no pun intended)"

Did Benson just try to start a punfest?
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:28 PM
October 21, 2011 2:28 PM - Donatella
rf, I went to the block where Peaches is and went into the little antiques place. The guy was gone but the lady next door opened up the shop. Cute stuff. It is a nice block.

I love Eddie though. Eddie Hibbert is the man. He is the salvage guy on Grand and Greene. He clears out houses and everything is a total jumble. But I have gotten amazing finds. All dirt cheap.
October 21, 2011 2:29 PM - dibs
Arggghhhhhhhhhh...just tried to make a reservation at babbo for week of Nov 7 and they are booked through to the 23rd unless you want 5:30/6:00



October 21, 2011 2:29 PM - Donatella


HI *ROB* XXOO.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:29 PM
October 21, 2011 2:30 PM - dibs
rob, if they were both gay they'd be the stereotypical "laundry buds"
October 21, 2011 2:31 PM - rf
Arkady, at my laundromat, I can add the fabric softener in the beginning--there's a compartment for it and it doesn't go in until the final rinse. It gets swept in with a surge of water so it doesn't spot. I've learned how much softener to use by how the clothes feel when they are dry.

I agree about the detergent--I use a double machine, easily twice the size of a home washer, and less than the amount of detergent prescribed for a normal-size machine. Of course the manufacturers want you to use more--the more you use, the more you buy! But I cringe when I see machines in the laundromat with the front-loader window filled up with soap bubbles.

October 21, 2011 2:31 PM - Donatella

Now, now, Cobble. I prefaced my remarks under the heading of obsessive/compulsive admission. No moral superiority attached. :-) I like to iron too. But right now I am trying to clean up my kitchen since a friend is coming over and I wish somebody would come do it for me.


October 21, 2011 2:31 PM - Deleted
My previous house was built in 1928 of solid brick, double-hung windows and wood-lathed plaster walls. My current condo is steel-frame construction that has the fairly standard steel sheeting/cement floor of condos. It also has Anderson casement windows.

I can only speak for myself: there is a world of difference between the noise levels in the two units, even though my house was located on a quiet residential street and my condo is not too far off 4th Ave.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:31 PM
October 21, 2011 2:32 PM - Donatella


oh you are cracking me up.....rf, we are LAUNDRY BUDS. how scary.
October 21, 2011 2:33 PM - rf
Donatella, it's not the block with Peaches, but the block with Peaches Hothouse--Tompkins between Jefferson and Hancock. Tompkins is 2 blocks past Nostrand. Two used furniture stores--one with more traditional stuff, one with more modernist stuff. There's a great little dress shop on that block too. And a mani-pedi place across the street.
October 21, 2011 2:36 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
so, i shit you not, there ELEVEN strollers, 2 scooters, a granny cart, and some other plastic scoot in my lobby all locked up and tied down. i feel like calling the fucking fire department. this doesnt normally bother me, but it outta control. can i start storing my own shit in the lobby too?!?
lazy white people. im serious. LAZY WHITE PEOPLE who cant be asked to bring theid damn kids toys up one flight of stairs?

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 2:36 PM
October 21, 2011 2:37 PM - dibs
rob, that does sound egregious. I certainly wouldn't want to live in a building like that.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:37 PM
October 21, 2011 2:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
ELEVEN FUCKING STROLLERS WITH LOCKS ON THEM!

*rob*

October 21, 2011 2:38 PM - Arkady
If it needs ironing or special care it goes to the Chinese laundry. (Not ex-bf, although he is good at ironing. I do only irony.)
October 21, 2011 2:40 PM - dibs
"I do only irony."

If you ate more vegetables you'd have enough iron
October 21, 2011 2:40 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im talking like big ass bike locks with the chains :-/ are these people insane? u cant hall ass up a few flights of stairs to store the stroller IN YOUR OWN DAMN APARTMENT? but you can lock it in the lobby?!?!? i live on the lobby level so it's annoying. i would SO do something fucked up to the strollers but cuz it's innocent babies at hand i will not. im not that bad. grrrrrr. can i strip that shit for precious metal maybe? they are for the most part all those expensive SVU strollers btw.



*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 2:40 PM
October 21, 2011 2:40 PM - Arkady
I haven't been to Babbo in a couple of years but I didn't think it was all that good. Nor did the people I was w/ who were from out of town & had made the res way before. Very disappointed.
October 21, 2011 2:40 PM - dibs
Obama Says all 41,000 Troops to be withdrawn from iraq by end of this year
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:40 PM
October 21, 2011 2:41 PM - Donatella

right, rf, that's what I meant. That is the block I am talking about. Cute.
October 21, 2011 2:42 PM - Bedstuymaven
I just spent two hours with 30 teenagers.
October 21, 2011 2:43 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
okay im going to go walk my dog and we will both growl at the disgustingness that is park slope in the middle of a work-day. my dog growls at the fugly children and i growl at the non tax paying nannies. it's quite a pony show...

*rob*

October 21, 2011 2:43 PM - rf
Slide show of sukkahs:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/21/with-bamboo-roofs-and-plywood-walls-williamsburg-is-transformed-for-sukkot/
October 21, 2011 2:44 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I just spent two hours with 30 teenagers.

i bet they made you feel old and irrelevant.

*rob*
im so right

October 21, 2011 2:44 PM - Arkady
It'll all come out in the wash, rob.
October 21, 2011 2:44 PM - dibs
"I just spent two hours with 30 teenagers."

Bukkake???? As long as they were all of age.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:44 PM
October 21, 2011 2:45 PM - rf
How did it go, BSM? A project?
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:45 PM
October 21, 2011 2:45 PM - Bedstuymaven
i bet they made you feel old and irrelevant.

NO they did not.
October 21, 2011 2:45 PM - More4Less
Rob, if you don't pipe up about this, you'll be losing a ton of pipe-up credibility as this is certainly worthly of a rant to mgt, fire dept, etc
October 21, 2011 2:45 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
LMFAO i have a sukkah!!! it';s called the metal grate thing that my AC sits in. i can squash myself in there if i choose or not to choose. who was it that said all religions are fucking retarded except for satanism?

*rob*

October 21, 2011 2:46 PM - dibs
"i bet they made you feel old and irrelevant."

ROTFLMMFAO


Welcome back, rob
October 21, 2011 2:46 PM - Arkady
He's really foaming, isn't he?
October 21, 2011 2:46 PM - rf
I already posted that, dumbass. :)
October 21, 2011 2:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im not going to "pipe up" cuz there's a bunch of lazy suburban canklesaurus rexes living my building who HAVE TO leave their strollers in the lobby. i dont care enough. besides, the joke's on them anyway

*rob*

October 21, 2011 2:47 PM - Deleted
I am great at laundary and ironing. Plus, I'm one of the one-percenters. Ladies, what more could you ask for in a man?
October 21, 2011 2:48 PM - Arkady
Every day is a soap opera on the OT.
October 21, 2011 2:49 PM - Biff Champion
It's starching to look a lot like a punfest.
October 21, 2011 2:49 PM - More4Less
pipe up credibility tanks/craters - to PUSSY level
October 21, 2011 2:49 PM - dibs
Arkady, you've only got One Life To Live
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:49 PM
October 21, 2011 2:49 PM - Bedstuymaven
How did it go, BSM? A project?

Actually, It went pretty well. We were planting daffodils at the park. We planted about 300. Can't wait till Spring when the bloom. The hard part is getting them focus but, once they are work really well. Saw some good team work and initiative. The world is not lost.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:49 PM
October 21, 2011 2:50 PM - dibs
The Tide has changed back to puns
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:50 PM
October 21, 2011 2:50 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
It's starching to look a lot like a punfest.

i will literally punch you in the face if you start one. im not joking

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 2:50 PM
October 21, 2011 2:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
The world is not lost.

yeah, cuz you planted some daffofils :-/

*rob*

October 21, 2011 2:52 PM - Bedstuymaven
You only have One Life to Live, make the best of it.
October 21, 2011 2:52 PM - Biff Champion
Rob, Cheer up
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:52 PM
October 21, 2011 2:52 PM - sixyearsandcounting
it's high Tide for a punfest...
October 21, 2011 2:53 PM - Bedstuymaven
After two hours with the Young an the Restless, I could use some time with the Bold and the Beautiful. OOps, wrong blog.
October 21, 2011 2:53 PM - dibs
Arkady, the pastas there remain excellent. i don't order the Secondi fish or meat.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:53 PM
October 21, 2011 2:53 PM - Biff Champion
A friend just emailed to ask me this. Any thoughts:

"I’m going to refi my mortgage. What should I do? We are amortizing over 24 years now @4.75%. We can refi and amortize over 20yrs @3.75% and our payments stay the same. Or be more aggressive and amortize over 15yrs@3.5% but make higher payments - $2600/mo vs the $2100/mo. I now overpay and pay 2600$ anyhow."
October 21, 2011 2:54 PM - rf
Rob, sorry you're so downy on your neighbors. Hope you can bounce back.
October 21, 2011 2:54 PM - dibs
I see this whole thing Cascading into a few blogicides

October 21, 2011 2:55 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I'd like to send a few people to the General Hospital. I wont tell you All I wanna do to them, but let's just say a few heads would be Bounce d off the concrete for starters.
October 21, 2011 2:55 PM - sixyearsandcounting
whatever happens, it's All for a reason
October 21, 2011 2:55 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
After two hours with the Young an the Restless, I could use some time with the Bold and the Beautiful. OOps, wrong blog.

lol. the fact that you sit home all day watching soap operas kinda fascinates me.

*rob*

October 21, 2011 2:55 PM - dibs
Biff, in the long run you wind up paying less out of pocket the shorter the duration of the mortgage. Have them look at the total numbers over the life and that will convince them
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:55 PM
October 21, 2011 2:56 PM - CGar
I'm All Tied of punning, especially in this tempaCheer.
October 21, 2011 2:56 PM - More4Less
biff, that's a question best answered by you - as you have better idea of how much they make, have in savings, job security, etc. - all important factors in the recommendation
October 21, 2011 2:56 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Will the weekend be dryer than the middle of this week was?
October 21, 2011 2:57 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I guess these are just the days or our lives...

Two loads of laundry done and folded. One in the dryer. One in the washer.

And I don't think I've done the laundry any irreparable harm! SUCCESS!
October 21, 2011 2:57 PM - Deleted
Biff;

The way to decide is to look at the difference in pay-out and principal build-up between the two scenarios. Then, use present-value analysis to decide the rate of return. If the rate of return is acceptable to them, then go for it.
Edited at October 21, 2011 2:57 PM
October 21, 2011 2:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Rob, sorry you're so downy on your neighbors. Hope you can bounce back.

im not really. i have great neighbors, but the ones who leave their shit in the lobby. grrrr. i dont know them, i never SEE them. currently dealing with a cockroach problem, GROSS. never had them before in the 3 years living here, and things are just as clean, but someone in the building must have moved out and they were skanks and the roaches scattered? ugh. we've used boric aid, etc. still... i cant believe i have cockroaches, that's worse than bedbugs and aids!!!

*rob*

October 21, 2011 2:59 PM - Bedstuymaven
ol. the fact that you sit home all day watching soap operas kinda fascinates me.

Don't draw conclusions about me.
October 21, 2011 3:00 PM - rf
Biff, it depends on whether they are positive they can do the $2600 payment every month, no matter what. If there's any doubt, maybe they shouldn't sign up for it.
October 21, 2011 3:00 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
(sorry im not making fun of anyone with aids) but seriously cockroaches are annoying and gross

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 3:00 PM
October 21, 2011 3:01 PM - Biff Champion
Thanks DIBS and Benson!

M4L
biff, that's a question best answered by you - as you have better idea of how much they make
= they're 1%s, with good savings and job security
October 21, 2011 3:01 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Don't draw conclusions about me.

Scotch Tape, my dear...

*rob*
October 21, 2011 3:02 PM - Bedstuymaven
Snappy Only two hours left
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:02 PM
October 21, 2011 3:02 PM - Biff Champion
"Biff, it depends on whether they are positive they can do the $2600 payment every month, no matter what. If there's any doubt, maybe they shouldn't sign up for it."

Thanks rf. Yes, that payment isn't an issue for them at all.
October 21, 2011 3:03 PM - More4Less
Biff, easy answer then. 15 yrs and pay more as they're leaning toward.

btw, to true banker form, you got others to do work that you're more than capable of doing.
October 21, 2011 3:03 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Get Combat traps, rob.
October 21, 2011 3:04 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Snappy Only two hours left"

Like sand through an hour glass....
October 21, 2011 3:08 PM - Biff Champion
M4L, lol.

If they’re already paying $2600 and can handle it, I agree they should go with the lower rate and keep paying that much – they'll be done quicker and save on the interest. The one other variable is they are also considering buying an investment property in the city, but I can only recommend so much and assume all will be equal (i.e., I can't advise whether or not they should buy an investment property!)
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:08 PM
October 21, 2011 3:08 PM - Donatella


*rob* that stroller bike thing is crazy. I used to have that at our old coop. Kids bikes. I really think it is very inconsiderate but it seems like you have a building with a lot of kids so nobody will complain if they all do it. The fire hazard thing is real though and the building can get a serious fine. In my building, I get to make the rules. Out of all the negatives of owning a building, getting to make the rules is a major POSITIVE.
October 21, 2011 3:11 PM - dibs
The investment property decision is purely based on cash flow and rate of return after all expenses. Any price appreciation will be a bonus BUT likely taxed at capital gains rate down the road. Just pray the democrats don't stay in office
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:11 PM
October 21, 2011 3:13 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
donna, i accept that i live in a building that is stocked with smelly renter parents. most of them are just slumming it for a year(in park slope :-/) until their parents buy them a condo. it's kinda gross actually when you think about it, but whatever. the super hates them all.

*rob*

October 21, 2011 3:16 PM - Deleted
Good to see Rob back!
October 21, 2011 3:17 PM - dibs
yes, benson. he's a breath of fresh air balancing all of your crazy talk. :)
October 21, 2011 3:17 PM - Legion
Your Friendly OT Guide To The Great Works


• To Kill a Mockingbird : A dude getting all crazy in court.

• Of Mice and Men: Two dudes hanging out, one of them is a 99%er

• A Separate Peace: Two young dudes away at school and stuff

• The Catcher in the Rye: A young dude gets philosophical and all that

• Animal Farm: A bunch of animals getting busy and political

• Lord of the Flies : A bunch of kids stranded on an island getting nuts

• The Great Gatsby : A dude becomes a baller

• A Farewell to Arms : A guy goes off to war

• The Scarlet Letter : A sex scandal, Puritan style

• Macbeth: A guy feeling guilty in England

October 21, 2011 3:18 PM - Bedstuymaven
Call the fire department. They will put a stop to the strollers and bikes in the hallway
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:18 PM
October 21, 2011 3:18 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
whenever someone says something, and then ends with this " :) " i wanna get all Latin King on their ass. seriously, stop that shit, it's so lame. own your fucking words

*rob*

October 21, 2011 3:19 PM - DeLepp
rob, make a call to fire dept, they will levy a hefty fine and LL will tell smelly renters to park strollers in apt.
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:19 PM
October 21, 2011 3:19 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Call the fire department. They will put a stop to the strollers and bikes in the hallway

im not going to call the fucking fire department on my own damn neighbors. ill complain about them, sure, but im not gonna snitch on them.

*rob*

October 21, 2011 3:19 PM - dibs
"i wanna get all Latin King on their ass."

Really, you all "Latin King???"


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
October 21, 2011 3:19 PM - Deleted
Rob is back with a vengeance!
October 21, 2011 3:20 PM - More4Less
why would anyone be paying that much for the groupon IPO???? Hope it pops, so it too becomes a juicy short - just like Pandora
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:20 PM
October 21, 2011 3:22 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Really, you all "Latin King???"

dont test me. not today.

*rob*

October 21, 2011 3:22 PM - Bedstuymaven
im not going to call the fucking fire department on my own damn neighbors. ill complain about them, sure, but im not gonna snitch on them.

*rob*
If you are not going to do anything to change the situation, then you need to stop complaining about it.
October 21, 2011 3:22 PM - More4Less
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

what you going to do????

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
October 21, 2011 3:25 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
If you are not going to do anything to change the situation, then you need to stop complaining about it.

uh, i this was *THE* place to come and bitch and moan and do nothing about it. (i just made a funny in my head).

*rob*

October 21, 2011 3:25 PM - Legion
Latin Kings in subway fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrdwhXNt4qw
October 21, 2011 3:28 PM - boerumresident
"The investment property decision is purely based on cash flow and rate of return after all expenses. Any price appreciation will be a bonus BUT likely taxed at capital gains rate down the road. Just pray the democrats don't stay in office"

What do you mean "likely"? Any appreciation on an investment is capital gains.

October 21, 2011 3:28 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"If you are not going to do anything to change the situation, then you need to stop complaining about it."

That's just waaay too rational, BSM. It's rob we're dealing with here. : P
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:28 PM
October 21, 2011 3:29 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im actually currently reading My Bloody Life: the making of a latin king, Legion.

my fav. subway fight:

look at this dumb white woman!?!? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsPuHBRIfmQ

*rob*

.
October 21, 2011 3:29 PM - Bedstuymaven
That's just waaay too rational, BSM. It's rob we're dealing with here. : P

Might as well go and bang my head on the sidewalk
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:29 PM
October 21, 2011 3:31 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
That's just waaay too rational, BSM. It's rob we're dealing with here. : P

that little pugnose you add to the end of all your little jabs does nothing to hide anything. either own your words, or don't. seriously, one of my biggest issues on this site is how people think it's okay to trash talk people and then add a stupid emote at the end.
wtf?


*rob*

October 21, 2011 3:31 PM - More4Less
Rob, btw, what's the current status with the digital antenna and best buy? are you still doing the buying then returning angle?
October 21, 2011 3:31 PM - DeadCatBounce
Legion, that guy isn't even playing his saxophone!
October 21, 2011 3:33 PM - More4Less
I do agree with Rob's 3:31. step up or step the fuck back
October 21, 2011 3:35 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
what's the current status with the digital antenna and best buy? are you still doing the buying then returning angle?

ive had the same one for a while now, threw out the receipt and box so i cant return it. maybe a month? im happy i keep it cuz i watch channel 11.4 and fall asleep to Three's Company. <3 chrissy

*rob*
October 21, 2011 3:35 PM - boerumresident
Biff, your friends should go with the 20 year at 3.75%, and then make extra payments like they do now. The end result might be $7 or 8K more of interest over the life of the loan, but I think that's a good option to take (in case the investment property route or just lfie in general ties up the extra cash down the road).
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:35 PM
October 21, 2011 3:35 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
If a home that was valued at $250k when you got it, sells for 2 million — what kind and how much tax do you end up paying on that?
October 21, 2011 3:35 PM - More4Less
for the next gathering, I'll play host/house for the hand-hand combat.

Cobble opens as huge favorite - $200 gets you $100
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:35 PM
October 21, 2011 3:36 PM - Legion
wow,
I just clicked on that link *rob*,
there's like a whold underground industry of subway fight videos!

Didn't someone video some guy riding the J Train?
...from the outside, clinging to the door?
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:36 PM
October 21, 2011 3:36 PM - CGar
The End of the World...brought to you by Juan Valdez...
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:36 PM
October 21, 2011 3:37 PM - Bedstuymaven
for the next gathering, I'll play host/house for the hand-hand combat.

Cobble opens as huge favorite - $200 gets you $100

I suggest you put your money on me.
October 21, 2011 3:37 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Sorry, my snarkiness runneth over today.
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:37 PM
October 21, 2011 3:38 PM - Legion
"Legion, that guy isn't even playing his saxophone!"

haha DCB,
you just got sax roll'd.

That's the Epic Sax Guy there,
I'm thinking of getting that as my ring tone.
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:38 PM
October 21, 2011 3:38 PM - More4Less
cobble, believe it's long term cap gains (is it 20% now???) applied to $1.5M (or 1.25M if own by a couple; ie each person is allow 250k tax free gains if owned it a while - ie 3 yrs out of recent 5 there as primary residence)
October 21, 2011 3:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I just clicked on that link *rob*,
there's like a whold underground industry of subway fight videos!

my absolute FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqtCCDWIiN4

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 3:38 PM
October 21, 2011 3:39 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
C'mon, all you RE junkies! One of you answer my question!!
October 21, 2011 3:39 PM - More4Less
"I suggest you put your money on me."

am more interested on putting my hands on you.
October 21, 2011 3:40 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"cobble, believe it's long term cap gains (is it 20% now???) applied to $1.5M (or 1.25M if own by a couple; ie each person is allow 250k tax free gains if owned it a while - ie 3 yrs out of recent 5 there as primary residence)"

Thanks, M4L. Ok, say it's a couple. So 20% of 1.25M is $250k?
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:42 PM
October 21, 2011 3:40 PM - DeadCatBounce
Making extra payments on a mortgage makes much less sense than putting the money in a savings/investment account of your own. You can always decide to pay off the mortgage early at a later point, or use the money for any other investment purpose.
October 21, 2011 3:43 PM - Bedstuymaven
If a home that was valued at $250k when you got it, sells for 2 million — what kind and how much tax do you end up paying on that?

Cobble - are single or married, how much depreciation you taken over the years, are you over 65, are you purchasing a new property, have you made capital improvements to the property>
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:43 PM
October 21, 2011 3:43 PM - More4Less
DCB, I can't help myself. It's in my DNA. Debt adverse. I always payoff mortgage early
October 21, 2011 3:43 PM - sixyearsandcounting
*rob* that last one is a classic!!!
October 21, 2011 3:45 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ah, good questions, BSM. Ok... for arguments sake...

Married - yes, depreciation - dunno, over 65 - no, purchasing new property - yes, capital improvements - yes.
October 21, 2011 3:46 PM - Biff Champion
I don't know about marriage and depreciation.

Although I know a lot about marriage and depression.
October 21, 2011 3:47 PM - Legion
ha, that guy screaming at the woman on the train sounded like eminem.
The subways make people mad, watch out in there.
October 21, 2011 3:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
*rob* that last one is a classic!!!

.when he calls her Willy at the end i wanted to marry him <3

*rob*

October 21, 2011 3:48 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
The subways make people mad, watch out in there.

and what? the commute railroad, dont? admit it, you miss the subway!!!

*rob*
October 21, 2011 3:49 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
BH is almost as shocked as I am that I did the laundry! : P
October 21, 2011 3:50 PM - Bedstuymaven
A married couple reduce the gain by $500,000 if they lived in the house for 2 years. The house must be the primary residence. The rest you need an accountant to figure out.
October 21, 2011 3:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
:p
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:51 PM
October 21, 2011 3:51 PM - Biff Champion
I really miss out not being able to view the YouTube posts at work. And my YouTube player on the Blackberry sucks, which also seriously impedes my ability to discreetly view porn.
October 21, 2011 3:51 PM - More4Less
that hipster girl wasn't ugly. I would've taken her home.
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:51 PM
October 21, 2011 3:51 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Perfect day for a laundry punfest!
http://ditmasparkblog.com/crime/bleach-bandits-arrested-after-62-heists
"Earlier this year, the Kathmandu Deli on Cortelyou Road near East 17th was broken into, and the thieves made off with cash from the ATM, electronics, and cigarettes. Those thieves have finally been caught–after leaving a trail of bleach modeled after the plot of a movie at 62 locations in Brooklyn and Queens.

Police say a group of five men began their string of “splash and dash” thefts in August 2010, in which the suspects in some instances poured bleach over ATM machines and cash drawers in the hopes of erasing any DNA evidence. The suspects admitted to having been inspired by the Ben Affleck movie “The Town,” in which the protagonists used bleach to cover their tracks.

The real-life suspects cut power at burglary sites and used miners’ headlamps to see their way in the dark. They stole a total of $217,000 in cash from ATMs and cash drawers, in addition to laptops, lotto tickets, and in two cases–including at Xpress Pizzeria on Church near E 7th, which I’ve heard is pretty good–they made off with a jukebox!"

October 21, 2011 3:52 PM - Legion
I usually had fun on the subway,
when I first started riding them as a teenager I'd get in trouble staring at people.
I remember a woman yelling at me somewhere between Utica and Kingston Throop.
What did I know, I just found people's faces and expressions interesting.
Good thing there were no cell phones back then.
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:52 PM
October 21, 2011 3:52 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Cobble, quickly find a local place that does pick up and drop off service! It helps stimulate the economy. Or at least that's my excuse for refusing to do my own laundry :-)
October 21, 2011 3:53 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
The rest you need an accountant to figure out.

his name is Dave (he's awful tho) but beggers cants be choosey

*rob*

October 21, 2011 3:53 PM - Deleted
Depreciation does not apply for calculations of capital gains of a primary residence (one-family home, owner-occupied condo etc.). Depreciation only applies for investment property. If you own a two-family home and live in one of the units, then half the building's cost is depreciated (land is never depreciated).
October 21, 2011 3:54 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I recall hearing about that, Six. I wondered what the bleach was about. Never saw that movie.
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:54 PM
October 21, 2011 3:55 PM - boerumresident
I don't think you can take depreciation on your primary residence. Capital improvements are added to your original purchase price. No sure if you can defer the capital gains tax by buying a new primary residence -- but if you are about to be making over $1 million that year, you should be talking to a tax accountant.
October 21, 2011 3:55 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
that hipster girl wasn't ugly. I would've taken her home.

:-/ she looked like willy wonka, literally.

*rob*

October 21, 2011 3:56 PM - Deleted
On the other hand, you can add to the cost-basis of the house when making capital gains calculations. If you bought a house for "x" and spent "y" on improvements (not repairs) on the home, your cost basis for calculating your capital gains is "x plus y".
Edited at October 21, 2011 3:55 PM
October 21, 2011 3:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Depreciation only applies for investment property.

and student loans. here's the thing, im a smart cookie at the end of this... in 2001 i owed like 18K in studen loans and now in 2011 i owe like 24K. but that 24K is a lot less now than in 2001, no? im not trying to get out of my loans (i did forbear and stuff for the last 10 years), but i want to pay back as little as possible. these people bitching and moaning about their loans, HELLO you can forbear for a gazillin years and it doesnt compound that much if it's a public government loan. it's the private ones you gotta worry about.

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 3:59 PM
October 21, 2011 4:01 PM - dibs
"What do you mean "likely"? Any appreciation on an investment is capital gains."

LOL You never know if the Democrats stay in power.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:01 PM
October 21, 2011 4:01 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
what i basically mean is that i owe 24K but id rather pay that back 20 years from now when 20K is like pocket change, than pay it now...

*rob*

October 21, 2011 4:04 PM - Legion
*rob*
here's something sure to get you pissed about student loans and homeowners.
If you pay off your student loan with an equity loan on the home you own,
you get to deduct that interest on that student loan off your taxes.

Edited at October 21, 2011 4:04 PM
October 21, 2011 4:04 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
snappy, are you REALLY a lawyer? im asking seriously. you come across as dumb as hell. or maybe you just play dumb on this board?


*rob*
October 21, 2011 4:04 PM - Bedstuymaven
You can use the depreciation, if you used part of the primary residence of business (you work from home and use a room exclusively as a home office).
October 21, 2011 4:05 PM - dibs
"in 2001 i owed like 18K in studen loans and now in 2011 i owe like 24K. but that 24K is a lot less now than in 2001"


And you wonder why this country is so fucked up???????????
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:05 PM
October 21, 2011 4:05 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
*rob*
here's something sure to get you pissed about student loans and homeowners.
If you pay off your student loan with an equity loan on the home you own,
you get to deduct that interest on that student loan off your taxes.

whenever i walk down nice blocks and see a plant that i like i take it. so it evens out. sorta.

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 4:05 PM
October 21, 2011 4:06 PM - Legion
"what i basically mean is that i owe 24K but id rather pay that back 20 years from now when 20K is like pocket change, than pay it now..."

That's what this administration is attempting to do by "monetizing the debt".
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:06 PM
October 21, 2011 4:06 PM - Bedstuymaven
"in 2001 i owed like 18K in studen loans and now in 2011 i owe like 24K. but that 24K is a lot less now than in 2001"

And you wonder why this country is so fucked up???????????

Hey DIBS - It's in `1972 dollars. I am joking.
October 21, 2011 4:07 PM - Deleted
BSM;

From what I hear, the IRS has really cracked down on that type of situation. It was being widely abused, and so they tightened up what can be considered a business use of a room or part of the home.
October 21, 2011 4:08 PM - Biff Champion
Someone stole the pumpkin from my stoop the other day. Rob, was that you?
October 21, 2011 4:08 PM - dibs
Yes, business use of home invites an audit. for one room it isn't worth the hassle.
October 21, 2011 4:09 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Biff, you seriously had a pumpkin stolen? I hear that's already starting to happen again this year in Brooklyn.
October 21, 2011 4:09 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
dont argue with BSM, she's a moonface.
she's already admitted her parents bought her her apartment... ugh.
*rob*

October 21, 2011 4:10 PM - More4Less
Change to Main Event Card:

Snappy replaces Cobble and she opens with even bigger fav odds - $300 get you $100
October 21, 2011 4:10 PM - Bedstuymaven
BSM;

From what I hear, the IRS has really cracked down on that type of situation. It was being widely abused, and so they tightened up what can be considered a business use of a room or part of the home.

I guess it depends. I worked for a company where we worked from home 3 day per week.
October 21, 2011 4:11 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
re: pumpkins, they are SO expensive, i wanted to buy one to carve and they are like 15-25 bux (for a medium sized carvable one!!!) fuck that shit. let them rot. which they will cuz the moonface bodegas around here will be doing...

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 4:11 PM
October 21, 2011 4:11 PM - Legion
next time slather the pumpkin in a layer of vaseline,
that way the culprit gets some slimy pumpkin goo all over him
and doesn't know what the hell it is.

maybe they'll think twice next time.
October 21, 2011 4:11 PM - Bedstuymaven
dont argue with BSM, she's a moonface.
she's already admitted her parents bought her her apartment... ugh.
*rob*

BACK OFF
October 21, 2011 4:13 PM - Biff Champion
"Biff, you seriously had a pumpkin stolen?"

Yes. Amazing there was someone in Brooklyn Heights young and strong enough to take it.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:13 PM
October 21, 2011 4:13 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
make me

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 4:13 PM
October 21, 2011 4:14 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Rob, who the EF are YOU to be telling someone, hell, pretty much ANYONE that they are dumb or sound dumb or play dumb. You jackass!! You really need a good ass-kicking.
October 21, 2011 4:15 PM - Biff Champion
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From How to Win Friends and Influence People, Part Two
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:16 PM
October 21, 2011 4:15 PM - Biff Champion
For Rob:

Six ways to make people like you:

Become genuinely interested in other people.

Smile.

Remember that a person's name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language.

Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves.

Talk in terms of the other person's interests.

Make the other person feel important - and do it sincerely.
October 21, 2011 4:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
why is it shocking that if you put a pumpkin out that it will get stolen? especially when pumpkins are expensive as hell right now?

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 4:15 PM
October 21, 2011 4:15 PM - Legion
lol,
cobble's going subway!
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:15 PM
October 21, 2011 4:16 PM - Deleted
In other news.......

.....Justice Scalia weighs in on Chicago vs. New York pizza:

http://www.delish.com/food/recalls-reviews/justice-scalia-rules-deep-dish-pizza-not-a-pizza-but-a-pie

That's my Antonin! Spoken like a New Yorker and Xavier graduate.
October 21, 2011 4:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Rob, who the EF are YOU to be telling someone, hell, pretty much ANYONE that they are dumb or sound dumb or play dumb. You jackass!! You really need a good ass-kicking.

im brutally honest with people and not fake? eh, i dont know, that's very Jersey of me i guess

*rob*
October 21, 2011 4:17 PM - Biff Champion
"why is it shocking that if you put a pumpkin out that it will get stolen? especially when pumpkins are expensive as hell right now?
*rob*"

I never said it was shocking. I just asked if it was you who took it.

Edited at October 21, 2011 4:17 PM
October 21, 2011 4:17 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Rob, I've resisted saying something to you, resisted giving you what you obviously want - to be universally disliked. Well, you win this time. Count me among those that no longer want anything to do with you. You choose to be the nastiest, rudest most ungrateful person many of us have ever met. And I for one am tired of it. I have done nothing but try to be a friend to you for the last few years. And I officially quit here and now. Don't you EVER text, call, email or otherwise speak to me again. I'm done taking your shit and making excuses for your behavior. FUCK OFF.
October 21, 2011 4:17 PM - lechacal
I mostly get other people to like me by calling them dumbasses all the time. I'm as shocked as you are that it works. You people are evidence.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:17 PM
October 21, 2011 4:17 PM - Legion
I don't think I do any of those things on the list much.
I am very bad about names. It's embarassing.

Heeyyyyyyy....youuu, er uhhhhhh,
yeah, how you doin'?
October 21, 2011 4:17 PM - DeLepp
Haha about 25 years ago my friends and stole about 25 pumkins, loaded my friend's chrsyler wagon. As chrysler proved time and time again the car died and a cop pulled up. Made us return all the pumkins. Imagine those kids who woke up with a giant pumkin the next morning, and those that woke up with a teeny tiny pumkin.
October 21, 2011 4:18 PM - CGar
"Yes. Amazing there was someone in Brooklyn Heights young and strong enough to take it."

I thought you left it on your stoop for me to take, so I took it.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:17 PM
October 21, 2011 4:18 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
rob, There is a Pacific Ocean-size gulf between brutally honest and just being a mother-f*cking D*CK! You're being a D*CK.
October 21, 2011 4:18 PM - Biff Champion
I was actually pretty certain the pumpkin would get stolen. I've come to believe one can put a used condom on one's stoop in Brooklyn and there's a good chance someone would grab it within an hour.
October 21, 2011 4:19 PM - dibs
Chicago deep dish pizza vs. thin crust pizza is apples and oranges. it's like trying to compare lasagne with pizza. Only morons get involved in this
October 21, 2011 4:20 PM - dibs
First time I met lech I called him an asshole and now look!!!!
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:20 PM
October 21, 2011 4:20 PM - Bedstuymaven
Rob - I have never said anything unkind to you. I am desperately trying not to start at this moment. Just leave me alone
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:20 PM
October 21, 2011 4:21 PM - More4Less
Wow, lots of wagers for Snappy. Need to jack up the odds - it's now $400 get you $100
October 21, 2011 4:21 PM - Biff Champion
"I mostly get other people to like me by calling them dumbasses all the time. I'm as shocked as you are that it works. You people are evidence."

Who said we like you?
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:21 PM
October 21, 2011 4:21 PM - dibs
I like to be called "papi," either soft whispered in my ear or out loud screaming "TAKE IT PAPI, TAKE IT"
October 21, 2011 4:22 PM - Legion
errrr,
this seems like a good time for the NOM NOM NOM video again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sFr5Esgv-s
October 21, 2011 4:22 PM - Biff Champion
(I do like you, Lech...just trying to get in on the Friday Night Fights action)
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:22 PM
October 21, 2011 4:23 PM - CGar
"I like to be called "papi""

Me too.
October 21, 2011 4:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
""I mostly get other people to like me by calling them dumbasses all the time. I'm as shocked as you are that it works. You people are evidence."

Like is a strong word.
October 21, 2011 4:24 PM - Legion
As a hispanic father
I get to be called Papi without any irony.
October 21, 2011 4:24 PM - CGar
"this seems like a good time for the NOM NOM NOM video again"

Legion, STFU.

[ :-) ]
October 21, 2011 4:24 PM - More4Less
CGar, think they call you papito
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:24 PM
October 21, 2011 4:25 PM - dibs
Cobble, again, I've noticed that since you moved to the ghetto your civility has dropped dramatically.
October 21, 2011 4:25 PM - Bedstuymaven
this seems like a good time for the NOM NOM NOM video again:

Let's try Happy and Peppy and Bursting with Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcbDxWU45zw
October 21, 2011 4:25 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I think I need to go bake some brownies.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:25 PM
October 21, 2011 4:26 PM - CGar
Put hash in them, COBBLE.
October 21, 2011 4:26 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Cobble, again, I've noticed that since you moved to the ghetto your civility has dropped dramatically."

From my 'ghetto' to your 'ghetto' — bullsh*t! : P
October 21, 2011 4:26 PM - More4Less
Rob, I'll do your taxes this year and get you some long term privileges to free food and board.
October 21, 2011 4:26 PM - Deleted
Puns anyone?
October 21, 2011 4:26 PM - Legion
I find that giving someone a box of 1000 condoms from the health clinic usually gets you in their good graces.
October 21, 2011 4:27 PM - Biff Champion
Legion, you're way too modest. You always adhere to 6 out of 6 of those Dale Carnegie suggestions. You even consistently use my name when we speak. But maybe that's just because you don't get much opportunity to call someone "Biff" very often.


October 21, 2011 4:27 PM - More4Less
I love brownies but am not sure I want to go that south to Ditmars for it.
October 21, 2011 4:29 PM - dibs
benson, haven't you learned ANYTHING??? Punfests can't be started, they have to originate spuntaneously
October 21, 2011 4:29 PM - CGar
"I find that giving someone a box of 1000 condoms from the health clinic usually gets you in their good graces."

Legion, I retract my 4:24 post. I couldn't be mad at you if I tried. Not even when I mistake you for Dr. Goebbels.

Since you mention it, I'm out of condoms. And I don't want to steal a used one off someone's stoop.

.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:29 PM
October 21, 2011 4:30 PM - Biff Champion
"."

World's Smallest Condom?
October 21, 2011 4:31 PM - dibs
CGar, I think you'd use a used condom if you were under Durex.
October 21, 2011 4:31 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Put hash in them, COBBLE."

LOL, CGar! I would but I don't have any hash - this isn't 1981!
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:31 PM
October 21, 2011 4:31 PM - Deleted
"spuntaneously"

I think DIBS just invented a new word!

.
October 21, 2011 4:32 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Ditmars"

It feels like DitMARS sometimes...but I'm getting used to it.
October 21, 2011 4:32 PM - Legion
"You even consistently use my name when we speak. But maybe that's just because you don't get much opportunity to call someone "Biff" very often."

Thanks Buff. ;o)
October 21, 2011 4:33 PM - Biff Champion
No problem, Lesion.
October 21, 2011 4:33 PM - dibs
Ditzy Ditmas Parker
October 21, 2011 4:34 PM - dibs
Barf
October 21, 2011 4:35 PM - Deleted
Spuntaneous Slopey.
October 21, 2011 4:35 PM - Legion
"Since you mention it, I'm out of condoms. And I don't want to steal a used one off someone's stoop"

No problemo, I'll steal some more condoms from the clinic for you guys.
October 21, 2011 4:35 PM - CGar
DICKS
October 21, 2011 4:36 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Ditzy Ditmas Parker"

I'm sure that's what the peeps in the laundry room were thinking while they were watching me spaz out at the machines, reading the instructions like I had just landed from Mars! LOL!
October 21, 2011 4:36 PM - More4Less
Cobble, that was pure BS on my part. I would go to Canarsie for good brownies - as does DIBS
October 21, 2011 4:36 PM - dibs
Legion, can I place my 2012 condom order now??
October 21, 2011 4:37 PM - CGar
No one believed you anyway, Brownie Whore.
October 21, 2011 4:38 PM - Deleted
DIBS;

I'll sell you my 2010 supply. I still have 999 in the box.
October 21, 2011 4:38 PM - Legion
dibs,
as it stands I'm liable for petit larceny,
with your order
it would be bumped to grand larceny!
October 21, 2011 4:40 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
just took my dog out for a walk and pondered about what snappy said, and then i was like... eh. if i spent any time hating on myself that would be a total waste. okay so you dont like me. join the club!

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 4:40 PM
October 21, 2011 4:40 PM - Bedstuymaven
I'm sure that's what the peeps in the laundry room were thinking while they were watching me spaz out at the machines, reading the instructions like I had just landed from Mars! LOL!

Cobble - My washing machine died and I had to go the the laundry mat. I was spazing too. Everyone looked at me like I had two heads.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:40 PM
October 21, 2011 4:40 PM - dibs
I'll award you an honorary Magnum Cum Laude condom supplier award.
October 21, 2011 4:40 PM - More4Less
CGar, you over-estimate the intelligence of others - there are suckers (big ones) born every day and we get to run into a few a day in this big city
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:40 PM
October 21, 2011 4:40 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Rob you should buy a pumpkin and fuck it.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:40 PM
October 21, 2011 4:41 PM - dibs
randi, what do you use, an apricot????
October 21, 2011 4:42 PM - Biff Champion
"it would be bumped to grand larceny!"

Larcenus Magnumus
October 21, 2011 4:43 PM - More4Less
Rob, own up to it. You fucked up in posting that to Snappy. Offer your apologies then the rest is up to Snaps whether she accepts or not but don't pin this on her as if she SNAPPED at you for no reason.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:43 PM
October 21, 2011 4:43 PM - Legion
...try a piece of liver first,
Portnoy didn't complain about it.
October 21, 2011 4:43 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
lol @ apricot

*rob*

October 21, 2011 4:44 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Exactly Dave.
October 21, 2011 4:44 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Apricot doesn't even make sense, it has a pit.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:44 PM
October 21, 2011 4:46 PM - dibs
Well, I'm assuming you remove the pit so you can fit your dick in it. :)
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:46 PM
October 21, 2011 4:46 PM - DeadCatBounce
Is there a full moon tonight?
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:46 PM
October 21, 2011 4:47 PM - dibs
randi, when you are in japan how often do you buy girls panties from a vending machine? Do you prefer the school girls panties or the waitress panties?
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:49 PM
October 21, 2011 4:47 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: On a different note, Obama is turning out to be quite the badass, droning motherfuckers and making good on campaign promises. Even McCain gave him props. If only the stupid republicans would let the senate debate the jobs bill we might see some progress there.

Obama 2012
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:47 PM
October 21, 2011 4:48 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
as if she SNAPPED at you for no reason.

i'd be mad if she was wrong. if she was i might be upset. i think the format of this website is way off, it's all blah blah blah blah blah blah. no one shares anything remotely bad, it's all fake goodness. total poppycock.

*rob*

October 21, 2011 4:50 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: My wifes has friends who sold panties for those machines.

In my experience in Japan all the red light district stuff seems strictly off limits to foreigners, at least on the surface. I am sure Dave has a different experience.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:50 PM
October 21, 2011 4:51 PM - dibs
What's the female equivalent of "poppycock?"
October 21, 2011 4:52 PM - Legion
poppywiskerbisquit
October 21, 2011 4:53 PM - More4Less
Rob, no sense trying to herd cats. it's fruitless. it is what it is. not to your liking, hang out elsewhere or sulk here - either way it is what it is. as you say, chillax man
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:53 PM
October 21, 2011 4:53 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
What's the female equivalent of "poppycock?"

brooklyn

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 4:53 PM
October 21, 2011 4:55 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"My washing machine died and I had to go the the laundry mat. I was spazing too. Everyone looked at me like I had two heads."

There were two matronly/proper looking women down there earlier, attending most efficiently and properly to their laundry. I really just wanted to throw myself at their feet and beg for guidance. But my pride wouldn't let me! : P
October 21, 2011 4:56 PM - DeadCatBounce
Here's one for Rob--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFJWrDCeOa0
October 21, 2011 4:56 PM - Arkady
People who post on here like it. Anyone who doesn't should go somewhere else.
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:56 PM
October 21, 2011 4:56 PM - dibs
Poppy Montgomery
Edited at October 21, 2011 4:56 PM
October 21, 2011 4:57 PM - Legion

"either way it is what it is. as you say, chillax man"

did someone say Epic Sax Man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrdwhXNt4qw

October 21, 2011 4:59 PM - Bedstuymaven
Cobble - someone took pity on me and guided me through the process. I had just moved to Bed-Stuy and still had the stink of an outsider.
October 21, 2011 5:01 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"stink of an outsider."

LOL! Yes, I think BH and I fairly "reek" ourselves. Fortunately, most have taken pity on us and have been very kind!
October 21, 2011 5:02 PM - dibs
How can you morons not know how to operate a washing machine?????
October 21, 2011 5:02 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Why is DIBS posting photos of half naked women??????
October 21, 2011 5:03 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Legion, do you keep a special condom supply for your South Asian customers?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6161691.stm
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:03 PM
October 21, 2011 5:04 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"How can you morons not know how to operate a washing machine?"

Listen, jackass, it's a lot more complicated than it seems! There are two machines, each with it's own settings and temps and coins and detergents and softeners and sheets! It's crazy I tell you!!!!! And don't get me started on the etiquette of taking a washer or a dryer when someone else is mid-laundry down there! There are NUANCES! NUANCES, I tell you!!
October 21, 2011 5:05 PM - Legion
ha sixyears,
If the condom makers know what's good for them,
they'll name the condoms like Starbuck's names coffee sizes:

venti
grande
tall
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:05 PM
October 21, 2011 5:05 PM - dibs
six, I've had some Indian subcontinent men who are quite large actually. Thais too.
October 21, 2011 5:06 PM - DeadCatBounce
Ha ha Six.
October 21, 2011 5:06 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Not surprised, Dibs. A 1% guy like you doesn't deserve anyone from the Indian 99%.
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:06 PM
October 21, 2011 5:07 PM - Bedstuymaven
How can you morons not know how to operate a washing machine?????

I know you say moron with love. The washing machine at the laundry mat have operate differently. You have to read the instructions. You have one place to put detergent for pre-wash and then you have to put the detergent in for the regular was when the green light comes one. Same thing with the bleach. It's not rocket science but, you have to read the instructions.
October 21, 2011 5:09 PM - dibs
well, the ones in my old building in manhattan were pretty simple. Put the detergent in, put the coins in, shove that thing in and then come back when it's rinse time to add the softener if you wanted to
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:09 PM
October 21, 2011 5:09 PM - dibs
Have any of you turned your heat on yet????
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:09 PM
October 21, 2011 5:10 PM - Legion
Have a nice weekend everyone!
...hang in there.
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:10 PM
October 21, 2011 5:12 PM - Arkady
I've switched the ducts over from air to heat but haven't run the heat yet.
October 21, 2011 5:14 PM - dibs
Guinea pigs are supposed to taste excellent in Peru and a few other S. American countries..maybe Ecuador.
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:14 PM
October 21, 2011 5:15 PM - Arkady
I think they eat the capybara - giant guinea pig.
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:15 PM
October 21, 2011 5:16 PM - dibs
No, Arkady. I've seen it on Bizarre Foods a few times....the little ones.
October 21, 2011 5:16 PM - Bedstuymaven
And don't get me started on the etiquette of taking a washer or a dryer when someone else is mid-laundry down there!

Don't follow them and you risk getting b*tch slapped by the laundry twins
October 21, 2011 5:17 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Have any of you turned your heat on yet?"

No, heat not yet, but we have the windows wide open to vent the heretofore mentioned polyurethane fumes anyway.
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:17 PM
October 21, 2011 5:18 PM - dibs
if the drier isn't being used, it's fair game.
October 21, 2011 5:18 PM - Bedstuymaven
Have any of you turned your heat on yet???? Since October 15th. I have tenants. This morning was the first time it came up
October 21, 2011 5:20 PM - dibs
I thought it was Oct 15. I meant to run it last night to make sure everything was OK but forgot. Anyway, if they want it they can call me and they know where to go upstairs to turn it on.
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:20 PM
October 21, 2011 5:20 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Don't follow them and you risk getting b*tch slapped"

There was no way I was going to piss off these two matronly types in there doing laundry. I had a chance to use 3 washers, but when Mrs. Matronly #2 came in, I gave up one. Then again with the dryers!! Can't get off on the wrong foot with the ladies!!!
October 21, 2011 5:20 PM - MontroseMorris
Laundromat washers and dryers used to be so simple. Turn the dial to whatever, and go. Now they look like the bridge of the latest incarnation of the Starship Enterprise. You have to stand there and figure them out, with a degree in computer engineering.
October 21, 2011 5:22 PM - dibs
I think using three at once is selfish. you're right

OK..getting in to Philly now


Edited at October 21, 2011 5:22 PM
October 21, 2011 5:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Turn the dial to whatever, and go. Now they look like the bridge of the latest incarnation of the Starship Enterprise. You have to stand there and figure them out, with a degree in computer engineering."

Well, and it doesn't help that I haven't actually OPERATED ONE since the Pleistocene era! LOL!!
October 21, 2011 5:23 PM - MontroseMorris
Dryers mess up the ease of doing laundry, as they take twice as long as the washer. Before I got my washer/dryer, I would always use the lowest setting on the dryers in the laundromat, as their dryers got so hot, they would fry your clothes. That actually took 3 times as long. I got a lot of reading done in there.
October 21, 2011 5:25 PM - MontroseMorris
Cobble, you need to find a new laundry service.
October 21, 2011 5:25 PM - lechacal
I hope you all have a really 1% weekend.
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:25 PM
October 21, 2011 5:27 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I scoped out the local laundromat. I may use it at some point, but it was a MADHOUSE when I went in there today, so I bit the bullet and used our laundry room. We had two weeks worth of laundry that needed to be done!! (I'd never win the Good Housekeeper Seal of Approval!!!)
October 21, 2011 5:28 PM - Bedstuymaven
Laundromat - that's how you spell it.
October 21, 2011 5:29 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Cobble, you need to find a new laundry service."

I tried, no such animal in these parts...that I've found...yet. It's ok, I don't mind, really. I told my old laundry service that they are missed and need to open a Ditmas Park branch!
October 21, 2011 5:29 PM - rf
Did you ask at the laundromat if they have wash and fold service?
October 21, 2011 5:30 PM - Arkady
Thanks, BSM!
October 21, 2011 5:30 PM - rf
Is Legion gone? I was going to ask him about Marco Rubio
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/marco-rubios-compelling-family-story-embellishes-facts-documents-show/2011/10/20/gIQAaVHD1L_story.html
October 21, 2011 5:32 PM - sixyearsandcounting
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/10/occupy_animal_farm_the_organiz.html?mid=twitter_DailyIntel

October 21, 2011 5:34 PM - bxgrl
What's the human equivalent of "rob"? ....there is none.
October 21, 2011 5:36 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Did you ask at the laundromat if they have wash and fold service?"

I did, they do. I may use them from time to time. I really don't mind doing myself here, it's in the building! And it's way less expensive, and it's not like I have tons of other crap I need to do at the moment. It was different when I worked 70 hours a week, made good money, and had very little free time, the cost was not a consideration. Now, I think I might just try this and see how it goes. BH doesn't care either way.
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:37 PM
October 21, 2011 5:37 PM - boerumresident
"I was going to ask him about Marco Rubio"

Actually, I sympathize with Rubio a little bit, as he heard all of this family lore years and even decades afterward. It could well be that his parents lied to enhance their own family cred. But he should start showing some more humility about the whole thing...

Also, some Cubans fled Batista, and then realized it would be even worse under Castro and so stayed here.
October 21, 2011 5:38 PM - Bedstuymaven
Arkady, saw you e-mail late that night. With the new mail I totally forgot. check your email. You are welcome.
Edited at October 21, 2011 5:38 PM
October 21, 2011 5:45 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
for those of u with old OLD school coin operated washers and drying machines, you can use pantyhose to fake the machine out into thinking you actually put quaters in the machines. grrr does NOT work where i live, but works at a lot of landrymats with old machines

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 6:01 PM
October 21, 2011 5:47 PM - BoerumHillScott
Some people in Ecuador eat guinea pig, but many people, including a friend of mine from there, do not.
October 21, 2011 5:49 PM - Arkady
Got it! Ta.
October 21, 2011 5:58 PM - rf
Most laundromats in Brooklyn have attendants who watch pretty carefully to make sure the customers don't use the machines without paying.
October 21, 2011 6:00 PM - rf
BSM do you have a new email address? Do you check the old one?
Edited at October 21, 2011 6:00 PM
October 21, 2011 6:01 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
just went over to check to see if theres anything written on brownstoner.com. wow, hehe sure is keeping it toolish, talking in tweets and l33t-speak? isnt he like 50?

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 6:20 PM
October 21, 2011 6:02 PM - Bedstuymaven
Hi rf, same address. Did not see an email from you. Just sent an e-mail. I will check the spam folder
October 21, 2011 6:04 PM - Bedstuymaven
rf - nothing from you in spam.
October 21, 2011 6:06 PM - Bedstuymaven
rf got it. My post to Arkady. New emails pushing her email to the bottom of the page. Not new e-mail address.
Edited at October 21, 2011 6:06 PM
October 21, 2011 6:13 PM - Deleted
Thank god it's Friday. What a week. Think I'm going to check out that Midwestern themed bar that just opened recently. (Rob bait, feel free)
October 21, 2011 6:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Most laundromats in Brooklyn have attendants who watch pretty carefully to make sure the customers don't use the machines without paying.

ive never been to a laundromat here, but i cant imagine that to be the case. is it?

*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 6:15 PM
October 21, 2011 6:18 PM - Deleted
There's always employees wandering about in laundromats. Especially if they do a booming fluff and fold business.

It sorta sux not having a w/d anymore but drop off ain't bad. Dropped off 30 pounds the other night and it was only abt 20 bux
October 21, 2011 6:18 PM - rf
Rob, I have used laundromats in Park Slope, Clinton Hill, and Bed-Stuy. And all of them have attendants that watch over the machines. Why would I say so if it weren't true?
October 21, 2011 6:19 PM - Bedstuymaven
DH - what is Midwestern themed?
October 21, 2011 6:20 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i have no idea. i just never really thought that there are undercover laundresses lurking in the laundrymat really. im not doubting you at all, i just never thought about it much

*rob*

October 21, 2011 6:21 PM - Deleted
Good question bsm. Not entirely sure. Definitely curious tho. Will report back.

Seems like a pretty good gimmick if the blogosphere is correct and everyone in wb is a 21 yr old from Ohio
October 21, 2011 6:25 PM - Bedstuymaven
DH - great. Other than Chicago, the only thing I can think of that these states have in common is high unemployment and low population density.
October 21, 2011 6:26 PM - dibs
Making the Sullivan St bakery no knead bread
October 21, 2011 6:27 PM - dibs
just walked by #Occupy Philadelphia. rather lame.
Edited at October 21, 2011 6:27 PM
October 21, 2011 6:27 PM - Bedstuymaven
Making the Sullivan St bakery no knead bread

DIBS - if you ever decide you like girls, can I come live with you. You sound like a fabulous cook. Can I live with you anyway?
Edited at October 21, 2011 6:27 PM
October 21, 2011 6:28 PM - dibs
Ewwwwwwwww. Live with a girl????
October 21, 2011 6:29 PM - Deleted
Haha awesome. So hopefully it will be empty and cheap.

I recall reading they serve some junk food staples that are common in certain states out there and carry certain beers that are Midwestern.

If its lame I can go try the whiskey / grilled cheese bar or the canadian bar down the block. Oh grand street. You slay me.
October 21, 2011 6:30 PM - Bedstuymaven
DIBS - I did not say sleep with you.
October 21, 2011 6:31 PM - dibs
OK...headed out to eat. Want to get a seat at the bar at Amis for the crispy pork shank for 2.
October 21, 2011 6:32 PM - Deleted
Bsm and dibs as roommates. It could work!
Edited at October 21, 2011 6:32 PM
October 21, 2011 6:33 PM - rf
She better have earplugs.
Edited at October 21, 2011 6:33 PM
October 21, 2011 6:34 PM - Deleted
Haha rf
October 21, 2011 6:35 PM - Bedstuymaven
She better have earplugs. LOL rf, you are bad
Edited at October 21, 2011 6:35 PM
October 21, 2011 6:42 PM - Deleted
Is there any other city in America where it socially acceptable to have roommates well into adulthood?
October 21, 2011 6:50 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
DH - what is Midwestern themed?

half of fucking new york city, sadly.

*rob*

October 21, 2011 6:52 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Is there any other city in America where it socially acceptable to have roommates well into adulthood?

what is the difference between having a roommate versus sharing a space where youre sleeping with the bitch. im serious. how is it ANY difference? seriously, sex makes the co-dependent relationship okay? that's lame.
i do hate how every fucking studio apartment in this city is priced for couples. screw that.

*rob*

October 21, 2011 6:53 PM - Deleted
Maybe half of NYC you've been to. I think staten island, 75 percent of Brooklyn, the Bronx most of queens and upper manhattan would take exception with that statement
Edited at October 21, 2011 6:53 PM
October 21, 2011 6:54 PM - Deleted
The difference would be one bed and one bedroom
October 21, 2011 6:55 PM - Bedstuymaven
Is there any other city in America where it socially acceptable to have roommates well into adulthood?

San Francisco and other cities where the cost of housing is high
October 21, 2011 6:57 PM - Bedstuymaven
DH - The cost housing is lower in the Bronx but income levels are lower. I guess we need to look at the income to housing cost ratio.
Edited at October 21, 2011 6:57 PM
October 21, 2011 6:57 PM - BoerumHillScott
I knew several people with roommates in Los Angeles and San Francisco, although not as many as here.
October 21, 2011 7:06 PM - DeadCatBounce
"I guess we need to look at the income to housing cost ratio."
I don't feel the need to do any such thing.
October 21, 2011 7:07 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
the bronx is SEVERELY overpriced for what it is cuz of section 8. no one with a lick of sense would pay market rate rents in thd bronx, but landlords get OVER market rate rent by having section 8 tenants. awful.

*rob*

October 21, 2011 7:09 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
but i also think people who live alone are fucking creepy as hell... so who knows

*rob*

October 21, 2011 7:13 PM - Bedstuymaven
"I guess we need to look at the income to housing cost ratio."
I don't feel the need to do any such thing.

I am just using as a predictor of the likely hood that one would need a roommate in order to afford a roommate. The current population shift in NYC is closely related to housing cost.
October 21, 2011 7:19 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
people wouldnt NEED roommates if every moonfaces from flyover country stopped moving here and having their parents pay most of their rent. call it a stereotype, but it's a true one.


*rob*
October 21, 2011 7:22 PM - rf
Rob, do you really think so many people around the country can afford to pay NYC rents for their adult children?
October 21, 2011 7:23 PM - Donatella
I have noticed that posts on Friday often have an edge; there is a lot of fighting, hostility on Friday. Thursday a lot of activity but it gets nasty on Friday. I wonder why that is.

I met up with an old friend, who has been very successful as a trader, author, TV person, analyst on Wall St. He has made good money and now is figuring out a new career direction. But we talked a lot about his daughter, who has been subsidized, going to the best of schools and finishing up a Phd program where he is paying for everything. He grew up like me. Irish big family, no money, worked his ass off his whole life. Where is his daughter now??????

Occupy Wall Street! She lectures him on the evils of capitalism. He pays her rent. He reminded her that Wall Street paid for her whole life. He is cutting her off after the tuition is over next year. At 29.
Edited at October 21, 2011 7:23 PM
October 21, 2011 7:26 PM - petebklyn
I couldn't pay for nyc rents for myself.
October 21, 2011 7:29 PM - petebklyn
I don't think the moonfaces have parents paying the rent. those are the trust funders - who mainly are local or california.
not the same group. surely you can tell the difference. moonfaces come from families that can't even imagine what rents are... they live in places where whole house cost $100k
Edited at October 21, 2011 7:29 PM
October 21, 2011 7:31 PM - Bedstuymaven
He is cutting her off after the tuition is over next year. At 29. Good for him.

She is in for a rude awakening
October 21, 2011 7:32 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Donatella, nobody should ever pay for a PhD! If you're accepted into a program without a scholarship and a stipend it means they don't really want you.
Edited at October 21, 2011 7:32 PM
October 21, 2011 7:41 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Money can be/ is confusing. I blame her father/mother. This young woman you speak of is going to be in for a very rude shock, but it's not entirely her fault. It's her dad's for letting it get THAT BAD. People aren't "born with" an appreciation for money. It's taught/learned. He didn't teach her. Was someone supposed to do that for him?
Edited at October 21, 2011 7:43 PM
October 21, 2011 7:45 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I can tell you any number of stories about people who grew up with pots of money and blew it, or 'got' piles of money and blew it, or never had money but saved carefully and built things with it. It's no surprise to me that this guy gave his kid everything he never had but failed to teach her the VALUE of it. Lots of parents relive their childhoods through their children lavishing them, and then come to find the kids expect it, and are shocked! LOL! Go figure! Dumb parenting. Sorry, he may be a lovely person, but he screwed up a bit there.
October 21, 2011 7:59 PM - etson
I think it's her fault, regardless of the nuances of parenting. At some point, early 20's probably, people are responsible for themselves, whether or not others choose to be kind to them and fund them.
If she's not responsible for herself at 29 when is she? 35? 40? 50?

Even if she doesn't understand money well she should understand respect and gratitude.
October 21, 2011 7:59 PM - petebklyn
I never knew any close who grew up with money or got piles of it. Some friends now are about to get (once the parents die) or have gotten some significant money ( at least to me) from estates - kinda working class growing up but parents never spent so leaving to them. But of course they are getting close to retirement age themselves.
Others have to help support elderly poor parents.
Edited at October 21, 2011 7:59 PM
October 21, 2011 8:04 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I've had several friends who inherited piles. It's been interesting to watch what they do. I've seen every result you can imagine.

"Even if she doesn't understand money well she should understand respect and gratitude."

Baloney. If her parents kept handing her piles of money, why would she ever expect they would stop? etson, I think that's an ideal not reality. Those values - respect and gratitude are learned. Somewhere in her family they were not taught. 29 and still being supported by your parents? Puh-lease.
October 21, 2011 8:10 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Real people I know well....
I've seen one friend who inherited quite a bit from his parents kill himself on drugs/alcohol, over several years.
I've seen another barely ever hold down a job and get cheated out of a ton of his money by a real hateful witch of a wife.
I've seen kids that were pretty confused by the money but eventually got on an even footing with it and have semi-productive lives, even if they don't work.
I've seen parents that handed out money like water and were shocked (shocked, I tell you!) that their kids couldn't seem to get it together to fly on their own. I think this is what we're seeing with this young woman. I'm not worried about her though, she'll finish her degree and marry well, and stay home and make babies and write a book or something.

Edited at October 21, 2011 8:12 PM
October 21, 2011 8:11 PM - etson
My point is that once one is an adult it's time to stop blaming things on aspects of one's upbringing. Otherwise we end up with a world of children.
Your argument seems to excuse bad behavior in adults on account of some view of their parents, and could be extended to any bad behavior, even crime.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:11 PM
October 21, 2011 8:14 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
So etson, this young woman was supposed to magically at what age suddenly awaken to the idea that she's been a princess and suddenly start to appreciate all that she's been given? It doesn't happen that way, sorry to burst your bubble. That's not reality.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:14 PM
October 21, 2011 8:14 PM - Bedstuymaven
My point is that once one is an adult it's time to stop blaming things on aspects of one's upbringing.

She might be chronologically an adult but, her parents have not treated her like one. She is still a spoiled child
October 21, 2011 8:16 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"She might be chronologically an adult but, her parents have not treated her like one. She is still a spoiled child"

Thank you, BSM. My point exactly.
October 21, 2011 8:17 PM - petebklyn
I don't buy the criticism of this woman. If she drank the kool-aid and said capitalism is her true religion -- so then fine - -she could still keep getting money for rest of her life? Certainly there are plenty of multi-generation families of wealth/trust funders/ etc that do this. If they go to society fundraiser function, belong to right clubs , live in right neighborhoods- then is it okay.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:17 PM
October 21, 2011 8:17 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Your argument seems to excuse bad behavior in adults on account of some view of their parents, and could be extended to any bad behavior, even crime."

I don't think you can generalize this to quite that extreme. You're sounding like legion, now, stop it! : )
October 21, 2011 8:18 PM - etson
When she reaches adulthood. That's what adulthood is. Society says 18 or 21 but it may be a few years different for some.
Just because you knew several people that screwed up doesn't make your view of 'reality' any more real than mine. I believe that anyone has the potential to live a productive life. I agree that parenting can make it tougher for some, but that doesn't excuse people from being responsible for their own behavior and attitudes.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:18 PM
October 21, 2011 8:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I don't buy the criticism of this woman."

Me neither.
October 21, 2011 8:26 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ok, so tell me 'how' you see it that this young person was supposed to 'grow up' and learn the values we all seem to agree she probably should have by the age of 29. Mommy probably still takes her clothes shopping. Dad probably still pays for her vacations and dental work, etc. ad nauseum. Was she supposed to tell them to stop giving her things? Who does that? When your boss gives you a raise, do you say, oh no, so many other people need jobs and things, I have enough, please stop now?!
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:26 PM
October 21, 2011 8:30 PM - Bedstuymaven
In this country adulthood is 18 or 21. In this country we also prepare our children for adulthood. At some point, you have to take the training wheels off he bike.
October 21, 2011 8:30 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Certainly there are plenty of multi-generation families of wealth/trust funders/ etc that do this. If they go to society fundraiser function, belong to right clubs , live in right neighborhoods- then is it okay."

Oh yes! Believe me, yes! Then mummy and daddy keep writing the checks! I know a few people like this right now!! Some in my own family!
October 21, 2011 8:30 PM - sixyearsandcounting
I think it's very strange that this father cut off funds to his daughter because of what seems like political differences!
October 21, 2011 8:33 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"At some point, you have to take the training wheels off he bike."

Si, or you lose your right to complain when they get weird on you and tell you they are going to hang out at Occupy Wall Street!!!

Trust me, this will be short-lived. Soon enough this young woman will be embracing Mr./Ms. Right and moving to CT or LI or NJ to make babies and write a book. I see it all very clearly. Unless she takes the other tried and well traveled path and joins Catholic Charities and goes to live in Sri Lanka or some such thing for a bit. Then she'll settle down in the house just like Mummy and Daddy's.
October 21, 2011 8:34 PM - Bedstuymaven
I think it's very strange that this father cut off funds to his daughter because of what seems like political differences!

Six, I don't think it purely because of political difference. I think he realized that she does not understand the value of money. She does not realize that you need to work for some blood sucking capitalist in order to eat.
October 21, 2011 8:35 PM - petebklyn
Perhaps she believes that capitalism is great but the finance/wall street sector has become too powerful and a danger to whole economy/well being of our country and system and life and values. When one segment of economy controls and effects economy and influences gov't to detriment of others - shouldn't you say enuf is enuf? When the group of people at top of these financial companies run them for their own benefit and enrichment rather long-term outlook and for shareholders - shouldn't we say enuf is enuf?
October 21, 2011 8:36 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Did I tell you guys about the rich kid I knew who used to one of those dumpster divers? Rich-guilt. It's a funny thing. I've seen that more than once. He's married w/ kids and a good job and living in CT now. With his trust fund.
October 21, 2011 8:36 PM - bxgrl
You realize the minute dibs, legion, or benson reads these comments all hell will break lose? :) (the "rob" commemorative emotive).
October 21, 2011 8:37 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"She does not realize that you need to work for some blood sucking capitalist in order to eat."

BAH HA HA HA HA HA HA! Ain't that the truth!
October 21, 2011 8:37 PM - Bedstuymaven
Soon enough this young woman will be embracing Mr./Ms. Right and moving to CT or LI or NJ to make babies and write a book.

Mr/Ms. Right who makes his/her money on wall street. She will need an Au pair and a housekeeper.
October 21, 2011 8:38 PM - petebklyn
more importantly I just made some hummos and baba ganoush. 1st time for the babaganoush. Seems a little thin..maybe I should have tryed draining the water outa the eggplant. but will see after it is chilled.
October 21, 2011 8:38 PM - Bedstuymaven
Ok, I am going to be nice. She will get her Phd, go into research and cure a major disease.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:38 PM
October 21, 2011 8:39 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I think it's very strange that this father cut off funds to his daughter because of what seems like political differences!"

I'm telling you, this will not last. I've seen it before. Once she realizes who butters her bread...she'll be back in the arms of capitalism in no time! I could be wrong, but that's my experience. Only one old hippie woman I know really rejected her family's money. Otherwise, who could do it? Access to money changes people.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:44 PM
October 21, 2011 8:40 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Mr/Ms. Right who makes his/her money on wall street. She will need an Au pair and a housekeeper."

Even my richest most guilt ridden about her inherited money Berkeley stay at home mom friend has a housekeeper.
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:41 PM
October 21, 2011 8:42 PM - Bedstuymaven
I just made some hummos and baba ganoush.

No pita bread?
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:42 PM
October 21, 2011 8:43 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Perhaps she believes that capitalism is great but the finance/wall street sector has become too powerful and a danger to whole economy/well being of our country and system and life and values"

Maybe Pete. Maybe she will actually try to do something about it.
October 21, 2011 8:43 PM - petebklyn
I never made bread. but other half is making some no-knead bread. besides pita is so cheap on atlantic avenue - why bother even trying to make yourself.
October 21, 2011 8:44 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Now I want to go to Damascus Bakery and p/u a few things. YUM!
October 21, 2011 8:45 PM - Bedstuymaven
no-knead bread

It's no-knead bread night. DIBS is making no-knead bread
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:45 PM
October 21, 2011 8:49 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Nitey-nite peeps!
October 21, 2011 8:54 PM - DeadCatBounce
Somebody said Etson is starting to sound like Legion. High praise indeed. (Except for that Saxophone thing)
October 21, 2011 8:58 PM - Bedstuymaven
Good Night All. Have a great week-end
Edited at October 21, 2011 8:58 PM
October 21, 2011 9:56 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
At some point, early 20's probably, people are responsible for themselves,

not im america. now youre coddled til like least 38. pathetic. half of my building i think lives off their parents lol


*rob*

Edited at October 21, 2011 9:56 PM
October 21, 2011 10:01 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote;
Access to money changes people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6uCyrnhG90
yep


Edited at October 21, 2011 10:01 PM
October 21, 2011 11:08 PM - Donatella
Well, I had two glasses of wine with him early in the evening and felt sleepy and went to sleep. So peeps had a good discussion about the two of them. I think he wanted to pay for her education and her expenses, but he was frustrated because she kept doing things like dropping classes, changing slightly the specialty, making moves which extended the course work, essentially going to school part time while she was being supported. I don't think he minded taking care of her through the education. But she was not so truthful, no so responsible, not so respectful. He is well aware of his responsibility in not drawing better boundaries. And he is upset that the criticism of Wall Street is so disconnected from the reality of her subsidized and privledged life. And upset that it seems to be so disrespectful to him. His withdrawing of money for living expenses is pushing her out of the nest, which is what she needs. I never met her, but he is a very nice and very crusty kind of guy. He is exasperated but wants the best for his daughter. I guess I a little jealous of this princess. My situation was the polar opposite of that in terms of support.
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October 21, 2011 11:21 PM - CGar
Dona, they're playing your song at Montero's. DeLepp wants you to come over.
October 21, 2011 11:29 PM - Donatella
ok....for a little while...see you.
October 21, 2011 11:35 PM - CGar
Are you really coming over? I've been doing shots all night, so I'm on the verge of singing.
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October 21, 2011 11:45 PM - Arkady
Yes, you should've drained the eggplant (ick!)
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:45 PM
October 21, 2011 11:58 PM - CGar
If you're well enough to post, Puma, you can get over to Montero's too!!
Edited at October 21, 2011 11:58 PM
October 22, 2011 2:11 AM - sixyearsandcounting
"she kept doing things like dropping classes, changing slightly the specialty, making moves which extended the course work"

disaster, disaster, disaster on every level. you should know (more or less) what you want to do when you enter a phd program, and do it.