Wednesday Open Thread
October 19, 2011 6:30 AM - BoerumHillScott

624 comments
October 19, 2011 6:34 AM - BoerumHillScott
Happy rainy morning everyone.
#1
October 19, 2011 6:46 AM - wendybear1
Good morning! I love the sunny pic on such a rainy morning. I'll keep that in mind while I'm waiting for the bus in the rain later.

Happy Wednesday, everyone! We're halfway to the weekend now.
#2
October 19, 2011 7:18 AM - Bedstuymaven
Good Morning
#3
October 19, 2011 7:27 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Mornin' folks! Don't complain too much about the rain (well, except what it does to my hair!). Rain helps things grow. And on that note, pray that the rain doesn't hit my hips :-) tee hee hee!
Edited at October 19, 2011 7:27 AM
#4
October 19, 2011 7:29 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Oh, and an easy way to appreciate the rain....just think....when it starts snowing like crazy and we are freezing our collective patooties off, we'll be gladly willing to trade that for the weather of today.
#5
October 19, 2011 7:33 AM - Bedstuymaven
Snaps - My patootie is the only thing that does not freeze
Edited at October 19, 2011 7:33 AM
#6
October 19, 2011 7:40 AM - Arkady
I prefer my precipitation frozen.
#7
October 19, 2011 7:47 AM - dibs
Hump Day!!!!
Edited at October 19, 2011 7:47 AM
#8
October 19, 2011 7:53 AM - CGar
A former colleague sent this to me before it was released to the media . . .

October 19, 2011

A Letter from Goldman Sachs
Concerning Occupy Wall Street

NEW YORK – The following is a letter released today by Lloyd Blankfein, the chairman of banking giant Goldman Sachs:

Dear Investor:

Up until now, Goldman Sachs has been silent on the subject of the protest movement known as Occupy Wall Street. That does not mean, however, that it has not been very much on our minds. As thousands have gathered in Lower Manhattan, passionately expressing their deep discontent with the status quo, we have taken note of these protests. And we have asked ourselves this question:

How can we make money off them?

The answer is the newly launched Goldman Sachs Global Rage Fund, whose investment objective is to monetize the Occupy Wall Street protests as they spread around the world. At Goldman, we recognize that the capitalist system as we know it is circling the drain – but there’s plenty of money to be made on the way down.

The Rage Fund will seek out opportunities to invest in products that are poised to benefit from the spreading protests, from police batons and barricades to stun guns and forehead bandages. Furthermore, as clashes between police and protesters turn ever more violent, we are making significant bets on companies that manufacture replacements for broken windows and overturned cars, as well as the raw materials necessary for the construction and incineration of effigies.

It would be tempting, at a time like this, to say “Let them eat cake.” But at Goldman, we are actively seeking to corner the market in cake futures. We project that through our aggressive market manipulation, the price of a piece of cake will quadruple by the end of 2011.

Please contact your Goldman representative for a full prospectus. As the world descends into a Darwinian free-for-all, the Goldman Sachs Rage Fund is a great way to tell the protesters, “Occupy this.” We haven’t felt so good about something we’ve sold since our souls.

Sincerely,

Lloyd Blankfein

Chairman, Goldman Sachs

#9
October 19, 2011 7:56 AM - CGar
Great pic, Scott.
#10
October 19, 2011 7:57 AM - CGar
It wouldn't be raining if Arkady hadn't said it was going to rain.
#11
October 19, 2011 8:09 AM - dibs
There was a photo in the Provincetown banner of 5 people "occupying" provincetown in front of the Town Hall.

More importantly, last week a blue whale was sighted of the coast by one of the whale watch boats.
#12
October 19, 2011 8:10 AM - dibs
Nothing more disgusting than pasty white moonfaces trying to sun themselves.
#13
October 19, 2011 8:12 AM - BoerumHillScott
Thanks cgar.
My only regret with the pic is not zooming in more on the eye candy.
Edited at October 19, 2011 8:12 AM
#14
October 19, 2011 8:12 AM - CGar
*rob*, how did you manage to hack dave's account???
#15
October 19, 2011 8:14 AM - dibs
"eye candy????"

ROTFLMMFAO
Edited at October 19, 2011 8:14 AM
#16
October 19, 2011 8:15 AM - dibs
CGar, as suspected, even after the keys were left, a late night call came in and things may be back to "normal" on Thursday
#17
October 19, 2011 8:18 AM - CGar
dave, you called it, lol. I had intended to check in with you, but I passed out early . . . right in the middle of sexting with my Puma.
Edited at October 19, 2011 8:18 AM
#18
October 19, 2011 8:22 AM - dibs
PK..so who has a Droid?? I have a question as to how to populate my "home page " with web icons like www.lifeinbklyn.com and certain other ones that I might use frequently. or do you just have to go through the browser each time???
Edited at October 19, 2011 8:22 AM
#19
October 19, 2011 8:23 AM - dibs
Also, what's the quickest way to go from ringtone to vibrate? Do you have to use "Settings" each time??? There must be a shortcut
#20
October 19, 2011 8:27 AM - CGar
"what's the quickest way to go from ringtone to vibrate"

This takes on whole new meaning when posted by you.

Sorry, I can only help with Crackberry issues. When did you get a new phone?
Edited at October 19, 2011 8:27 AM
#21
October 19, 2011 8:27 AM - Bedstuymaven
"eye candy????"

ROTFLMMFAO. I am with you DIBS
#22
October 19, 2011 8:35 AM - dibs
OK, figured the last two questions out.

Now, how do you logout of web browser sites so you are not using data????
#23
October 19, 2011 8:35 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Dave, on mine what you do is hold your finger on the part of the screen wheel you want the button. A menu will pop up, chose "shortcuts" and then chose "bookmark" and if lifeinbkln.com is a bookmark in your browser application then you can select it and it should make a button shortcut on the homepage or wherever you want it.
#24
October 19, 2011 8:35 AM - BoerumHillScott
What can I say, I like to look at female moonfaces who are not wearing much clothing.
#25
October 19, 2011 8:38 AM - dibs
Thanks, randi. I just figured that one out too. I se that I can do a google search of my question and it pretty much brings me to the Droid Forums where it's quickly answered.

Just figured out how to turn the web pages off too

thanks


Edited at October 19, 2011 8:38 AM
#26
October 19, 2011 8:49 AM - Slopefarm
"It wouldn't be raining if Arkady hadn't said it was going to rain."

It usually works the other way. Rains if you forget your umbrella or say "looks like it might clear up" etc. Oh, and if you are driving with me, do not ever say out loud that the traffic is moving well, even if we're doing 65 on the BQE. In fact, don't even think it. It's automatic we'll hit bumper to bumper traffic in the next three minutes.

#27
October 19, 2011 8:53 AM - CGar
But, Slopey, Arkady is omnipotent.
#28
October 19, 2011 8:57 AM - dibs
"But, Slopey, Arkady is omnipotent."

Maybe because she doesn't eat her vegetables. If she did she'd be regular.
#29
October 19, 2011 9:10 AM - Donatella
Does anyone know how *rob* is doing?
Edited at October 19, 2011 9:10 AM
#30
October 19, 2011 9:11 AM - dibs
Was he sick???
#31
October 19, 2011 9:12 AM - Donatella
Well......he had that front snaggle tooth which he broke, posted a bunch of things about how he was going to the dentist and then he stopped posting.
#32
October 19, 2011 9:15 AM - dibs
Maybe this will wake him up.....
Edited at October 19, 2011 9:15 AM
#33
October 19, 2011 9:24 AM - lechacal
There were "Occupy Hartford" protesters along the half marathon route last weekend. I yelled at them, called them douche bags, told them to fuck themselves, the usual. They seemed really taken aback, like they genuinely thought 5,000 runners wanted to smell their rotten patchouli funk and read their hand painted idiocy.
Edited at October 19, 2011 9:24 AM
#34
October 19, 2011 9:28 AM - dibs
Who is your avatar, lech???
#35
October 19, 2011 9:31 AM - Slopefarm
Looks like Scalia, perhaps.
Edited at October 19, 2011 9:31 AM
#36
October 19, 2011 9:31 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM

How did Rob break his tooth?
#37
October 19, 2011 9:32 AM - dibs
I think Perry effectively knocked himself out of the race last night. The only one who, surprisingly, was coherent and stayed on topic was Bachmann.
#38
October 19, 2011 9:33 AM - Donatella
Hmmmm.......I will leave that to him to explain, Cobble. But he was worried about getting it fixed and then he disappeared.
#39
October 19, 2011 9:34 AM - CGar
Cain dug a big hole for himself. And the next debate is foreign policy.
#40
October 19, 2011 9:34 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I, shockingly, didn't watch the debate, but I saw some clips of the Romney/Perry pissing match. I thought Perry was going to clock Romney when Romney put his hand on Perry's shoulder!
#41
October 19, 2011 9:35 AM - dibs
Cain can't speak effectively on anything except the economy.

It would seem that NONE of the candidates actually understand the differences between state/local taxes and federal taxes.
#42
October 19, 2011 9:36 AM - Arkady
Another article on Jacques Pepin in today's paper - this one on the chef who has a new book coming out.
#43
October 19, 2011 9:37 AM - dibs
I don't know anything about healthcare in MA but homeowners' insurance system there is about as fucked up as you can get. I don't know who initiated that plan but my homeowners insurance there is much more expensive on the "Massachusetts Fair Plan."
Edited at October 19, 2011 9:37 AM
#44
October 19, 2011 9:38 AM - CGar
They were clearly confused about Cain's 666 plan abolishing state/local taxes.
#45
October 19, 2011 9:39 AM - dibs
Arkady, I laike Jacques; not in a biblical way but as a TV chef. I think my preferences are as follows:

1. Lydia
2. Ina
3. Jacques (especially with Julia)
4. Eric Ripert
5. Alex Guarneschelli (sp?)


I may have forgotten one

#46
October 19, 2011 9:39 AM - Donatella
Re Perry, the other day I had a long catch up conversation with a friend in Houston. He is very conservative and very Republican. We always talk about politics and I asked him about Perry. I mentioned that his "performance" as a candidate seems to contrast with his popularity in Texas and the job he is doing as governor. My friend described him as a "hot house flower", (take him out of Texas and he wilts) that "Texas rules itself". I couldn't believe some of his comments about American History ("our origins in the 16th century"??????). My friend agrees that he is history.
Edited at October 19, 2011 9:39 AM
#47
October 19, 2011 9:39 AM - Slopefarm
Yes, looking like field is shaking itself out pretty quickly. Looks like we will have 11 months of general election campaign: Obama (economy) v. Romney (policy flip flops, weird underwear and animal abuse). Of course, I think Giuliani was still in the lead at this time 4 years ago, so one never knows, does one?
#48
October 19, 2011 9:40 AM - Donatella
Lydia did something to make her hair look better, but it still looks so horrible that I have a hard time watching her show. Shallow, I know.
#49
October 19, 2011 9:41 AM - Donatella
Wierd underwear? I knew I should have watched that debate!!
#50
October 19, 2011 9:42 AM - CGar
Weird underwear, Slopey? Dangerously close to loin cloth material again...
#51
October 19, 2011 9:43 AM - More4Less
New York Mag did a survey of the OWS folks at the park and got the following funny outcomes (heard this on bloomberg this morning):
- 68% didn't know what the SEC is
- 5-6% thought the SEC was the power house conference of college football
- 10% thought Elizabeth Warren was Warren Buffet's wife
Edited at October 19, 2011 9:43 AM
#52
October 19, 2011 9:46 AM - Slopefarm
LOL, CGar. And no, dona, I do not believe Mormon undergarments were discussed in the debate. But I can't imagine Mormon beliefs and practices will get a free pass for a campaign this long.

And it scares me that I free associated to the same punchline as Bachmann's been using about 9-9-9 "devil is in the details".
#53
October 19, 2011 9:46 AM - More4Less
saw a poll results chart yesterday where Cain is leading,....down to some dude with 1% but the dude in last place with not even 1% but an "*" is huntsman - what a fast deflated balloon. Dude should've chillax at his cush Ambassador gig in China
Edited at October 19, 2011 9:46 AM
#54
October 19, 2011 9:47 AM - Arkady
I'm always sceptical about those kinds of surveys because you can slant the questions & the way you ask them to get good material. Years ago I did a survey in London for a satire show: Do you believe in post-marital sex. 87% didn't. (And, of course, you could argue that people might've really thought that but it was the swingin' 60s so I doubt it.)
#55
October 19, 2011 9:47 AM - Donatella
I saw that M4L. I think 6 years posted it yesterday. Proves my point. Almost everyone got the question on the largest US expense (health care and pensions, NOT military spending). And for a movement all about tax and income disparity, very few people knew what the highest income tax rate was.
#56
October 19, 2011 9:49 AM - More4Less
Given that all (yeah, all as in 100%) politicians only care about themselves and their re-election odds, I have concluded that I want Obama to win in '12. Given the 2 term limit, he won't be concerned with re-election (vs. all possible Repub candidates will be concerned with that if in office) and will be in gangsta mode governing as he sees fit.
#57
October 19, 2011 9:49 AM - dibs
Here's the survey....LOL....

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/10/occupy_wall_street_quiz.html
#58
October 19, 2011 9:51 AM - Donatella
To be fair, the "sample" for that survey was 50 people questioned in Zucotti square.
#59
October 19, 2011 9:52 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I think my favorites are Ina and Jacques (with Julia is spectacularly awesome!) and Lydia, with everyone else falling somewhere further back.

Watching Jacques taught me to make an omlette.

#60
October 19, 2011 9:53 AM - More4Less
Elizabeth warren = Warren Buffet's wife is comical and bad application of intro to logic 101
Edited at October 19, 2011 9:53 AM
#61
October 19, 2011 9:54 AM - dibs
I particularly enjoyed Lydia's episode where she made "Zucotti Putanesca"
Edited at October 19, 2011 9:54 AM
#62
October 19, 2011 9:56 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Given the 2 term limit, he won't be concerned with re-election (vs. all possible Repub candidates will be concerned with that if in office) and will be in gangsta mode governing as he sees fit."

I like it, M4L.
#63
October 19, 2011 9:57 AM - dibs
Anyone who though Elizabeth Warren is Warren Buffet's wife shouldn't be allowed to breed.
#64
October 19, 2011 9:57 AM - More4Less
Cobble, wife had a surprising reaction when I told her about my halloween costume idea. She was against it and reason was she thinks I could get jumped by the 99% - different story if I was strolling around in BK Heights or Cobble Hill.
#65
October 19, 2011 9:58 AM - dibs
"Given the 2 term limit, he won't be concerned with re-election (vs. all possible Repub candidates will be concerned with that if in office) and will be in gangsta mode governing as he sees fit."
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:00 AM
#66
October 19, 2011 10:01 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
When I was on jury duty earlier this week, it was interesting to hear during the questioning how many of the potential jurors in the room didn't watch or read ANY news. Including people with college educations or advanced degrees.

Or perhaps they just didn't want to state what channels/publications they watch/read.
#67
October 19, 2011 10:02 AM - Slopefarm
I hear you, arkady. I'm sure there are many demographics that, if polled, would be against electing heterosexuals, homo sapiens, or thespians to public office. Used to work wonders as a campaign smear ("Did you know my opponent is a HO MO sapien? Not only that, she's a thespian!!!")
#68
October 19, 2011 10:02 AM - CGar
Everyone knows that Elizabeth Warren is a host of The View.
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:02 AM
#69
October 19, 2011 10:03 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
That is a surprising reaction, but she might be right, M4L!! Even in Cobble Hill. I saw a kid get jacked, on Halloween at about 5pm/broad daylight, for his iPod right next door to my stoop two years ago, in front of ~30 people.
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:03 AM
#70
October 19, 2011 10:04 AM - CGar
"different story if I was strolling around in BK Heights or Cobble Hill"

Not if you're carrying a Chinese Food delivery bag.
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:04 AM
#71
October 19, 2011 10:05 AM - Donatella
Dozens of Wild animals on the loose in OH. Lions, tigers, bears....oh my. Zanesville OH had a wild life preserve and someone (the zookeeper?, now dead) appears to have let 60+ wild animals loose and are now running wild. People warned to stay inside and officials are shooting them (the animals).
#72
October 19, 2011 10:06 AM - Slopefarm
Why are the officials shooting people, dona? Seriously, I think you've written the USA Today headline: Lions and Tigers and Bears, OH My!
#73
October 19, 2011 10:06 AM - boerumresident
My favorite horror cooking show was that one with Jacques Pepin and his daughter, who seemed like a deer caught in headlighs the entire time. Awesome.
#74
October 19, 2011 10:07 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
That was the downside to watching Jacques. The episodes with his daughter could be painful.
#75
October 19, 2011 10:08 AM - dibs
SAD....

An Ohio town is under lockdown as dozens of wild animals including bears, wolves and tigers have escaped from a private preserve are and are on the loose after the owner of the preserve has been found dead.

Terry Thompson of Zanesville, Ohio, was found dead of unknown causes inside the preserve while the animals cages were found unsecured. Thompson, 61, was recently released from prison after serving one year on federal weapons charges. According to investigators he has been cited in the past for animal abuse and neglect.

Speaking on "Good Morning America" Wednesday Muskingum County Sheriff Matt Lutz said that they will not have a count on how many animals have been killed until daylight arrives in Ohio.

"Right now we did have [reports of] some sightings overnight," Lutz told "GMA." "None were confirmed. At daybreak we'll go back in and get a body count … we do have tranquillizers on site since this thing started."

Lutz said at a news conference that residents should stay inside until the animals, which escaped around 6 p.m. Tuesday, are rounded up. Several schools across the area have cancelled classes for Wednesday.

Police, who have been ordered to shoot to kill, describe the loose animals as "mature, very big and aggressive."

Lutz said that several aggressive animals were shot by deputies when they were discovered near Thompson's body at his preserve. Thompson's preserve was surrounded by a fence, and not all animals on the property fled through the open gates.


"These are wild animals, wild animals that you would see on TV in Africa," Lutz said at a news conference Tuesday evening.

As many as 48 wild animals, including cheetahs, grizzly bears, black bears, wolves, lions, a white Siberian tiger, camels and giraffes are on the loose across Zanesville, which has a population of about 25,000 residents. Police said that orangutans and chimps were found in Thompson's home, but they were still in their cages.

Officers said Tuesday that they have shot as many as 25 of the animals so far, including bears and wolves, but it is still unclear exactly how many animals escaped, according to the Muskingum County Sheriff's Department.


Edited at October 19, 2011 10:10 AM
#76
October 19, 2011 10:08 AM - Bedstuymaven
Anyone who though Elizabeth Warren is Warren Buffet's wife shouldn't be allowed to breed.

Other than folk in MA, that number might be 90% of the US population.
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:08 AM
#77
October 19, 2011 10:09 AM - More4Less
Yes Sir Mr CGar. when do you want your laundry back? Starch pressed I presume? I won't be around the next 2 wks - have to lay train track out to the west coast.
#78
October 19, 2011 10:09 AM - MontroseMorris
GM, all.

CGar, the Goldman piece was brilliant.

Cobble, how are you feeling?
#79
October 19, 2011 10:09 AM - CGar
"I think my favorites are Ina and Jacques"

Ina is my favorite.
#80
October 19, 2011 10:12 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Eh, still not great, but thanks for asking, MM. I'm going to see my doc tomorrow to see what options we have. The cough is really wicked. And now poor BH has it. : (
#81
October 19, 2011 10:13 AM - CGar
"The cough is really wicked"

Wicked witch. Wicked cough.
#82
October 19, 2011 10:16 AM - Donatella
Officials are shooting the animals. Not the good citizens of Zanesville. Ok, preliminary info, zookeeper let the animals loose and then shot himself. 44 animals accounted for out of 60+. What a nightmare. 300 pound Bengal tigers.

I spent some time in Zanesville Ohio. When I was driving back from KC, I took little breaks from my road trip and stopped in Zanesville. It is a charming, very old Ohio River Valley agricultural town. I was interested because it had tons of clay in the area and is/was home to many ceramic factories (these were local manufactures, making pottery for surrounding farmers.) I collect ceramics.
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:16 AM
#83
October 19, 2011 10:18 AM - dibs
Cobble, just let it run its course. Doctor isn't going to be able to give you anything unless it's a specific infection, like step. You're just a cost to the healthcare system, driving up insurance prices. I told you a few nights of NyQuil should do the trick. I have some Jamaican voodoo medicine here that works pretty well.
#84
October 19, 2011 10:19 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I need something to make this cough ease up a bit. It's just relentless. My new neighbors must think I'm tubercular.
#85
October 19, 2011 10:22 AM - Bedstuymaven
I have some Jamaican voodoo medicine here that works pretty well.

DIBS in Jamaica it is Obia not voodoo.

Cobble - get some Buckley's cough syrup and some wray and nephew over proof rum
#86
October 19, 2011 10:23 AM - dibs
Cobble, mine was the same way, to the point that my diaphragm started to hurt. trust me, nothing will get rid of it other than letting it run its course.

I really don't understand peoples' need to run to the doctor to "get something" for a cold or flu. There isn't anything. Don't drink milk, it increases mucous for some reason.
#87
October 19, 2011 10:24 AM - dibs
BSM..this is some brew with cinnamon, cloves, real pimento and a few other things.
#88
October 19, 2011 10:26 AM - Donatella

Cobble, buy Mucinex. That loosens congestion and helps to make a cough "productive". Most upper respiratory problems - colds - are viral and there isn't anything a doctor can do. If you don't feel better in a few days, get a throat culture.
Feel better.
#89
October 19, 2011 10:27 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"get some Buckley's cough syrup and some wray and nephew over proof rum"

You know what, BSM, I'm totally doing this. I have to go out later, and I'm making that my special mission!!
#90
October 19, 2011 10:28 AM - dibs
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING RIDICULOUS. THIS IS WHAT"S WRONG WITH OUR COUNTRY....

Beltway Earnings Make U.S. Capital Richer Than Silicon Valley

Oct. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Federal employees whose compensation averages more than $126,000 and the nation’s greatest concentration of lawyers helped Washington edge out San Jose as the wealthiest U.S. metropolitan area, government data show.
The U.S. capital has swapped top spots with Silicon Valley, according to recent Census Bureau figures, with the typical household in the Washington metro area earning $84,523 last year. The national median income for 2010 was $50,046.
The figures demonstrate how the nation’s political and financial classes are prospering as the economy struggles with unemployment above 9 percent and thousands of Americans protest in the streets against income disparity, said Kevin Zeese, director of Prosperity Agenda, a Baltimore-based advocacy group trying to narrow the divide between rich and poor.
“There’s a gap that’s isolating Washington from the reality of the rest of the country,” Zeese said. “They just get more and more out of touch.”

#91
October 19, 2011 10:28 AM - bxgrl
First yer I've ever had a fl;u shot- I did get a small cold a few days later but nothing like what you guys are going through. Sounds awful!

Read this yesterday: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20120052-503544.html?tag=re1.channel

Very interesting survey on OWS and the rest of the country.

#92
October 19, 2011 10:29 AM - dibs
"Most upper respiratory problems - colds - are viral and there isn't anything a doctor can do."

EXACTLY
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:29 AM
#93
October 19, 2011 10:29 AM - Bedstuymaven
BSM..this is some brew with cinnamon, cloves, real pimento and a few other things.

I am giving Cobble an alternative since she does not have the ingredients to make a proper elixir
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:29 AM
#94
October 19, 2011 10:30 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
DIBS, There are reasons for my doc to monitor my condition. I want him to listen to my chest. I know when I need to talk with a doc. Besides, he and I need to catch up on politics a bit, we didn't have much time to chat last visit. : P
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:30 AM
#95
October 19, 2011 10:36 AM - Bedstuymaven
Besides, he and I need to catch up on politics a bit, we didn't have much time to chat last visit.

This why health care cost are so high. People spending time talking about politics and just chatting with their doctors.

Health Care Reform Now!!!. No personal conversations. You get poked and prodded and you are out.
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:36 AM
#96
October 19, 2011 10:42 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"You get poked and prodded and you are out."

Snort! It's never been that way with this doc. I've been seeing him off and on since I was 15, and got diagnosed with pneumonia. We just chat. He always asks how things are, family, job, etc. He takes a real interest. And then, of course, it doesn't hurt that our politics are aligned.
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:42 AM
#97
October 19, 2011 10:44 AM - Slopefarm
"Most upper respiratory problems - colds - are viral and there isn't anything a doctor can do."

But if it is persistent and you don't stay on top of it, secondary infections can develop.

#98
October 19, 2011 10:45 AM - Donatella
Yes, that is true, Slopey. Some people get sinus infections or bronchitis. That's different.
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:45 AM
#99
October 19, 2011 10:45 AM - Bedstuymaven
Cobble - my doc used to be like that. Now when I go I usually see the Physician's assistant. I miss the old days.
October 19, 2011 10:46 AM - Donatella
I think one of my sisters is personally responsible for MSRA. She gets an antibiotic prescription for everything. Misuse of antibiotics in people (otc sales in certain countries where people do not take them properly), antibiotics in animal husbandry used as a prophylactic for disease, and misuse by doctors over the last 40 years has led to antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria.

PSA
October 19, 2011 10:47 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"But if it is persistent and you don't stay on top of it, secondary infections can develop."

Precisely, which has been the case with me in the past. So my doc watches me pretty closely.
October 19, 2011 10:50 AM - More4Less
don't self diagnose. it's good to have Doc check you out and tell you "all you got is so & so... just take so & so...." a quick office visit to see the Doc aint the reason why health cost is rising - to believe / say that is quack quack whack
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:49 AM
October 19, 2011 10:52 AM - Bedstuymaven
Cobble:

Get some lemon and honey as well. Mix the a cap full of rum with the a teaspoon of honey, a tablespoon of lime juice and some hot water.
Edited at October 19, 2011 10:52 AM
October 19, 2011 10:54 AM - More4Less
Cobble, are you having the dry hacking machine-gun coughs and worst when you go to bed?
October 19, 2011 10:55 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Thank you, M4L.

BSM, Will do! : )
October 19, 2011 11:00 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
It's loose but not really productive, and yes, worse at night and in the morning.

OK, Doctors PLUSA, I'm off to steam the crap out of my lungs in the shower. (Insanely hot water in this building, btw.)
October 19, 2011 11:03 AM - More4Less
was thinking it might be post nasal drip but that doesn't sound like post nasal.
October 19, 2011 11:07 AM - Biff Champion
Quick, where's Snappy??

http://www.biggayicecream.com/treats/

I recommend the Bea Arthur for her.
Edited at October 19, 2011 11:07 AM
October 19, 2011 11:07 AM - Biff Champion
DIBS, how about The Gobbler for you?


Edited at October 19, 2011 11:07 AM
October 19, 2011 11:07 AM - Donatella
When I was a kid, I told my mother I had post-nasal drip.

She told me that I WAS a drip. And she is a nurse. So much for TLC.
October 19, 2011 11:09 AM - Donatella
I used to love Good Humor Toasted Almond. I had one not so long ago to see if I would get some childhood memories (like Proust). The only thing I came away with was HOW MUCH SUGAR is in that crunchy coating. As a kid, LOVED it, but now....eek.
October 19, 2011 11:20 AM - More4Less
Biff, our Rangers finally got win #1 of the season.
Edited at October 19, 2011 11:20 AM
October 19, 2011 11:22 AM - Arkady
I had a Good Humor the other day & it, too, was overly sweet but I think it's more to do w/ the use of corn syrup than our taste buds.
October 19, 2011 11:25 AM - Biff Champion
M4L, YES! When I woke up this morning, I immediately went to my Blackberry to surf the NHL scores from last night. I thought I misread the score when I saw it...
Edited at October 19, 2011 11:25 AM
October 19, 2011 11:30 AM - More4Less
Biff, maybe this is better then them starting out well then fade - ie maybe they'll ramp up into & thru the playoffs (so I daydream here)
October 19, 2011 11:44 AM - Slopefarm
I used to go to lots of Ranger games as a kid, and saw some good playoff games. This was back in the Jean Ratelle, Rod Gilbert, Ed Giacomin days. Saw some great games against Bruins (Espo, Orr) and Flyers (Clarke, Schultz).
October 19, 2011 11:52 AM - Arkady
Loved Espo!!
October 19, 2011 11:54 AM - Biff Champion
I figure if the Rangers can win 2 of 4 in Canada after all of their traveling, they will be in good shape when they return to host Toronto for the home opener. They already have one big win.

Slopey, I grew up loving the Philly Flyers. As a diehard hockey fan growing up in Toronto, I needed a backup team to support since the Leafs were always pretty pathetic. The Broad Street Bullies impressed me. I even had Bobby Clarke and Bill Barber jerseys (to compliment my Mike Palmateer and Darryl Sittler jerseys).
Edited at October 19, 2011 11:54 AM
October 19, 2011 11:59 AM - Slopefarm
Yes, biff, always a puzzle why the Leafs could never put it together, being in the heart of hockey country. Of course, the Knicks play in a hoops mecca, so there's an apt comparison.

Your Flyers comment reminds me of the great cold war moment when the Red Army team on its U.S. tour left the ice mid-game due to the usual Broad Street Bullies' tactics.
Edited at October 19, 2011 11:59 AM
October 19, 2011 12:03 PM - Biff Champion
"Your Flyers comment reminds me of the great cold war moment when the Red Army team on its U.S. tour left the ice mid-game due to the usual Broad Street Bullies' tactics."

I was going to mention that! I remember watching it live at home and calling my friend/next door neighbour in disbelief to ask if he was watching it. Not that long ago, I managed to download the game. The Soviets skated off after Ed Van Impe took down one of their forwards, but there were many hits prior to that, resulting in the Red Army squad leaving. In particular, Bill Barber was skating all over the place demolishing the other team with hits.
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:03 PM
October 19, 2011 12:06 PM - More4Less
other than this current eagles team, I have lots of respect for the recent Philly teams - Phillies, Eagles, and Flyers. they have grit and consistency that's lacking in recent NYC teams
October 19, 2011 12:06 PM - Biff Champion
Even the names of the Broad Street Bullies were enough to intimidate:

Kindrachuk, Dornhoefer, McIlhargey, Schultz, Mad Dog Kelly, Moose Dupont...
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:06 PM
October 19, 2011 12:08 PM - Biff Champion
Admittedly, Goodenough, Bladon and Crisp weren't that intimidating, name-wise.
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:08 PM
October 19, 2011 12:08 PM - Biff Champion
Where the puck is everybody??
October 19, 2011 12:08 PM - Slopefarm
Ah, yes, Ed Van Impe. Flyers played good hockey, but they did play rough. I have the distinct honor of having seen a Rangers-Bruins playoff game at MSG when I was about 5 or 6 that set a record for penalty minutes in a playoff game. Game went until about midnight. All I remember is that I couldn't see anything because everyone kept standing up to see the fights. Then, a few years later I saw a Rangers-Flyers playoff game that broke the same record. I had better seats and was taller, so I saw the fights.
October 19, 2011 12:11 PM - Slopefarm
"Where the puck is everybody?"

Yeah, get on the stick, PLUSAs.


October 19, 2011 12:12 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Just on the bench waiting for you guys to table hockey...and score a new topic of conversation.
October 19, 2011 12:12 PM - Biff Champion
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
~Rodney Dangerfield

classic line
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:12 PM
October 19, 2011 12:12 PM - dibs
I'm playing hockey from class today.
October 19, 2011 12:12 PM - Biff Champion
Hockey captures the essence of Canadian experience in the New World. In a land so inescapably and inhospitably cold, hockey is the chance of life, and an affirmation that despite the deathly chill of winter we are alive.

~Stephen Leacock
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:12 PM
October 19, 2011 12:14 PM - Biff Champion
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo? ~Jacques Plante

Street hockey is great for kids. It's energetic, competitive, and skilful. And best of all it keeps them off the street. ~Author Unknown

My other car is a Zamboni. ~Hockey Saying

Some people skate to the puck. I skate to where the puck is going to be. ~Wayne Gretzky
October 19, 2011 12:14 PM - Donatella
The rain makes the day a little calm....in a miserable sort of way. Just did a little meditating to get my self in a calm mood before finding out what this certified letter is that I have to pick up at the post office.

I think it is something related to the car accident. Apparantly, the out of control driver has a kind of out of control life. He totalled a parked car, his own car, hurt somebody in another car and smacked up my car. He was NOT the insured person and took the car without permission. He lives in East Stroudsberg PA and is 28 years old. So it looks like if he had any money, he will be sued personally. And most likely I am out my 500 bucks on the deductible for the collision repair which my insurance company covered.
October 19, 2011 12:15 PM - Biff Champion
There shall be no more hockey puns. Period.
October 19, 2011 12:16 PM - Biff Champion
Hockey puns are just icing on the cake.
October 19, 2011 12:17 PM - dibs
"There shall be no more hockey puns. Period."

Who made you Hull monitor???
October 19, 2011 12:17 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
You're right, Biffy, our goal should be more slapstick.
October 19, 2011 12:18 PM - Deleted
Biff;

Extra caffeine in that coffee this morning, eh?
October 19, 2011 12:18 PM - dibs
I suggest we strive for a goal of a pun-free day
October 19, 2011 12:20 PM - Biff Champion
Benson is never onside with our punfests.
October 19, 2011 12:21 PM - Deleted
My colleague who is visiting our offices in Japan reported some terrible news - further damage from the earthquake/tsunami. Our private bottle of bourbon at the Sound and Fury bar in Mito City was destroyed.
October 19, 2011 12:22 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I suggest we strive for a goal of a pun-free day"

We'll need an enforcer to guarantee that.
October 19, 2011 12:22 PM - MontroseMorris
Is there a penalty if you don't?
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:22 PM
October 19, 2011 12:22 PM - CGar
Go puck yourself, Biff, and the Zamboni you rode in on.
October 19, 2011 12:23 PM - Biff Champion
I can assist in finding an enforcer.

CGar, was that a backhanded insult?
October 19, 2011 12:24 PM - Deleted
Can we designate pun-free hours on the OT? Where's my buddy Scott? Scott, as the admin of this site, do you think you could arrange such?
October 19, 2011 12:24 PM - Biff Champion
I was bored last night so I decided to pull the goalie.
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:24 PM
October 19, 2011 12:24 PM - Biff Champion
DIBS, did you get butt-ended last night?
October 19, 2011 12:25 PM - Arkady
Your jokes about hockey aren't exactly creasing me up.
October 19, 2011 12:26 PM - More4Less
Oh No!! NOW is football season and baseball playoffs. Hockey needs to stay in the background a little longer.
October 19, 2011 12:27 PM - petebklyn
not last night, the mexican hat trick wasn't available.
October 19, 2011 12:27 PM - Biff Champion
I think I may have sciatica. Going for a backcheck later this week.
October 19, 2011 12:27 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I call roughing!
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:27 PM
October 19, 2011 12:28 PM - Biff Champion
DIBS, it isn't Raunch Hour yet.

No blue lines allowed until later.
October 19, 2011 12:28 PM - BoerumHillScott
I'm afraid I lost control of this site a long time ago. Probably less than 10 minutes after I announced its existence.
October 19, 2011 12:29 PM - Deleted
"I'm afraid I lost control of this site a long time ago. Probably less than 10 minutes after I announced its existence."

Wait a minute!!!! Is Scott actually Mr. B.?!?!?!!?!?

.
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:29 PM
October 19, 2011 12:29 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I say we rush the non-punsters!
October 19, 2011 12:30 PM - Biff Champion
DIBS, so you didn't do anything on the fly last night?
October 19, 2011 12:31 PM - Deleted
These punfests suck the oxygen out of the thread!!!
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:31 PM
October 19, 2011 12:31 PM - dibs
I was looking for a spanking in the penalty box
October 19, 2011 12:32 PM - dibs
benson, maybe you could regale us with a Bocce punfest
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:32 PM
October 19, 2011 12:32 PM - More4Less
Benson, I normally post about sports stuff to halt a punfest but that won't work on this hockey theme one
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:32 PM
October 19, 2011 12:32 PM - petebklyn
I drank my coffee this morning using my brother stanley's cup.
October 19, 2011 12:33 PM - More4Less
Goalies don't like a 2 on 1 coming at them but DIBS does.
October 19, 2011 12:34 PM - Biff Champion
DIBS, you ever been the third man in?
October 19, 2011 12:35 PM - Biff Champion
I think benson is board.
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:36 PM
October 19, 2011 12:35 PM - More4Less
I call offsides on Biff for crossing the line in raiding Top Chinese talent
October 19, 2011 12:35 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"These punfests suck the oxygen out of the thread!!!"

benson, Lighten up, that last shot was foul.
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:35 PM
October 19, 2011 12:35 PM - Bedstuymaven
I was looking for a spanking in the penalty box

And, a body check to go with it
October 19, 2011 12:35 PM - petebklyn
he always is on lookout for the high stick
October 19, 2011 12:36 PM - Biff Champion
Are these punfests going to cause people to breakaway from this blog?
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:36 PM
October 19, 2011 12:37 PM - Deleted
Wow;

I've been screwed by the weather this year. First the earthquake/tsunami killed production at our factories in Japan for a couple of months. Now our "contract manufacturer" in Thailand is getting clobbered by the floods there. FOUR meters of water at some point. Impact on production still not known, but it will be major .

No production = no sales!

This is all Wall Street's fault.
October 19, 2011 12:39 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
No production = no sales!

Cain would say "Blame yourself", benson.
October 19, 2011 12:40 PM - Donatella
Japanese citizens groups who do not believe reassurances from the government have banded with scientists to test soil samples in Tokyo. They show samples for radioactive cesium. Not good.
October 19, 2011 12:41 PM - Deleted
"Cain would say "Blame yourself""

What would his brother Able say?
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:40 PM
October 19, 2011 12:45 PM - Biff Champion
Does anyone know how/when to download the new free apps for Blackberry? I went on Blackberry App World, but the ones that are supposed to be free starting today are not showing as free.
October 19, 2011 12:46 PM - dibs
Biff, they are only free for the 99%
October 19, 2011 12:46 PM - Biff Champion
"Cain would say "Blame yourself""

That's some attitude. Who's responsible for raising Cain?
October 19, 2011 12:48 PM - Donatella
A big deal in the energy "renaissance" in North America, i.e. shale gas and shale oil and oil sands is getting a pipeline to transport it from Cushing, OK (where it is bottlenecked) to refining areas in the Gulf Coast. Environmentalists are staging a diehard resistance to building a major pipeline (proposed Keystone pipeline) to do so, citing dangerous environmental damage from the building of the pipeline. There was an article in Rolling Stone which one energy analyst cited to me which laid out the perceived issues. But they vow to fight furiously on this. On one hand, we are sourcing more and more indigenous energy supplies, but we need infrastructure to move it efficiently to use it.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-keystone-pipeline-revolt-why-mass-arrests-are-just-the-beginning-20110928
October 19, 2011 12:49 PM - Biff Champion
Got it:

"You can also access the premium apps by opening BlackBerry App World on your smartphone and browsing the "Thank You Gift from BlackBerry" carousel item"
October 19, 2011 12:49 PM - dibs
Finally, a focused grievance.....


Edited at October 19, 2011 12:49 PM
October 19, 2011 12:50 PM - More4Less
DIBS, if that ROTD on stoner can get that ask, maybe you can try to rent your house out for 8k
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:50 PM
October 19, 2011 12:51 PM - dibs
dona...I think one of the major reasons we need a Republican in the White House is to get these energy proposals pushed through.
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:51 PM
October 19, 2011 12:53 PM - dibs
m4l, I CAN"T SEE THE ROTD YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:53 PM
October 19, 2011 12:55 PM - Biff Champion
The first free app Blackberry just made available:

“DriveSafe.ly 2.0 reads your text messages and emails out loud so you can concentrate on the road. Eliminate the temptation to reach for your phone by letting DriveSafe.ly read to you and automatically respond for you."

Between this and iPod's PocketFinder, the divorce rate is going to skyrocket.
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:55 PM
October 19, 2011 12:56 PM - Deleted
Re: development of shale oil and gas

Here is an opportunity to score a trifecta:

a) more jobs at home to develop these resources;
b)reduce trade deficit and dependency on unstable regions.
c) burn more cleaner-burning natural gas (i.e. less carbon emissions).


October 19, 2011 12:57 PM - More4Less
DIBS, the ROTD is on waverly ave in Clinton hill - a nice tricked 3 story carriage house asking 10.5k
October 19, 2011 12:58 PM - DeLepp
“DriveSafe.ly 2.0 reads your text messages and emails out loud so you can concentrate on the road."

What a nightmare, having to listen to some boss's rant while on cross bronx.
Edited at October 19, 2011 12:58 PM
October 19, 2011 12:58 PM - dibs
benson, forget it. Obama has other more important objectives now, primarily getting re-elected.
October 19, 2011 12:59 PM - Donatella
I say this sadly since I really want to see Obama succeed, but watching what has happened with Dodd Frank and its implementation has really soured me on this Administration and the Democratic agenda on financial markets. The CFTC (commodity futures trading commissions) set limits on certain kinds of investor trading in commodity markets yesterday after debating for some time and I think they are a mistake.......It turns out that the Republican commissioners voted the way that I think was correct. Imagine having several high profile plane crashes. People are correctly concerned. So what you do is get a committee of politicians who do not understand aerodynamics telling people how to fly planes.
October 19, 2011 1:01 PM - Deleted
RMLC;

Someone get Donatella a drink and a welcome kit. She's just been mugged by reality.
October 19, 2011 1:01 PM - dibs
dona...the House has already introduced a bill to repeal parts of Dodd Frank.

I think you're being too harsh on Barney frank. i suspect he knows a lot about straddles and spreads.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:01 PM
October 19, 2011 1:03 PM - Biff Champion
"Eliminate the temptation to reach for your phone by letting DriveSafe.ly read to you and automatically respond for you."

I think they should set up a call center in India where people make up and type in random responses on your behalf.
October 19, 2011 1:09 PM - dibs
Harold & Kumar

Harold is HOTTTTTTTT...



Edited at October 19, 2011 1:09 PM
October 19, 2011 1:09 PM - Donatella
Well, in this case, the politicans and some political appointees I believe have made serious mistakes, messing with things that weren't broken. Why must it be this way? No question, the lack of transparency in some aspects of derivatives markets as well as completely and utterly clueless (or complicit) regulators led to the mortgage crisis. And the egregious and disgusting behavior of some institutions led to the indiscriminate rage in the general public. But I am mourning now what I see as overkill, fixing (and destroying) parts of the financial serivces world which were never broken. And now will be harmed. I hope not irreparably.
October 19, 2011 1:10 PM - Arkady
dibs - Is he a gay blade?
October 19, 2011 1:11 PM - Donatella
Yeah, dibs, naked straddles.
October 19, 2011 1:12 PM - More4Less
DIBS, how about Kumar if it's to be a package deal?
October 19, 2011 1:14 PM - Biff Champion
This is interesting:

11 Astounding Sci-Fi Predictions That Came True

http://mashable.com/2010/09/25/11-astounding-predictions/

1. The iPad: 1968

We all giggled earlier this year when Apple announced the iPad. Some of us made jokes about certain feminine products. But it looks like Arthur C. Clarke went down the the same naming route with the “newspad.”

2001: A Space Odyssey by Arthur C. Clarke:

“When he tired of official reports and memoranda and minutes, he would plug in his foolscap-size newspad into the ship’s information circuit and scan the latest reports from Earth. One by one he would conjure up the world’s major electronic papers…Switching to the display unit’s short-term memory, he would hold the front page while he quickly searched the headlines and noted the items that interested him. Each had its own two-digit reference; when he punched that, the postage-stamp-size rectangle would expand until it neatly filled the screen and he could read it with comfort. When he had finished, he would flash back to the complete page and select a new subject for detailed examination…”
October 19, 2011 1:15 PM - dibs
I don't think so. His name is John Cho, born in Korea
October 19, 2011 1:16 PM - dibs
Kumar is probably too hairy but i can overlook that if it comes as a side dish to the hunky Kimchie
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:16 PM
October 19, 2011 1:16 PM - Donatella
Plus, I traipsed around North Philly for Obama because I believed that the direction of the country's foreign policy and stumbling into the stupid and evil Iraqi War was reason enough to vote out the Republicans. But where are we now? We are out of Iraq pretty much, but Obama drank the Koolaid on foreign policy. I can't listen to him, droppin' his gs and being inspiring. So disappointed.
October 19, 2011 1:17 PM - dibs
dona, did you really believe that north Philly was going to vote for someone other than Obama???????????????

ROTFLMMFAO
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:17 PM
October 19, 2011 1:19 PM - petebklyn
perhaps if there was cooperation rather than total resistance from financial sector - best regulations would be put in place.
Rather the republicans to not want and are refusing to fund/pay for regulation/regulators.
October 19, 2011 1:21 PM - Donatella
PA was still a swing state, dibs. And the issue in North Philly was not whether they were for Obama, but whether they were registered to vote and were committed to getting out to vote. So I worked on registration, voter information, and on election day, I actually rang doorbells till 7:45 to get the last of the people out to the polls before they closed at 8. It was interesting. We had voting statistics for different polling stations....voting vs registered democrates at different polling stations and knew where to go in the last hour. It was a stunning turnout in the end.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:21 PM
October 19, 2011 1:22 PM - bxgrl
another day, another Obama rant........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
October 19, 2011 1:23 PM - dibs
I suppose it's still Bush's fault, bxgrl?????
October 19, 2011 1:24 PM - petebklyn
this was interesting article out earlier in month mentioning that different companies are pushing for different rules to favor them and against their competitors.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/wall-st-united-in-disdain-for-dodd-frank-but-split-on-the-details/
October 19, 2011 1:24 PM - Donatella
no rants.. no rants from me. Just my observations. There is NOBODY more than me who wants/wanted to see Obama succeed.
October 19, 2011 1:25 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Well, of course, bxgrl! The republicans have been simply bleeding cooperation and have proposed so many fantastic plans that would help so many people, create millions of jobs and cure cancer, all at the same time. If only Obama would listen to them.
October 19, 2011 1:25 PM - Biff Champion
"There is NOBODY more than me who wants/wanted to see Obama succeed."

I bet his mom did/does.
October 19, 2011 1:26 PM - dibs
Just remember, you can thank Dodd Frank for your new debit card fees
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:26 PM
October 19, 2011 1:26 PM - Biff Champion
10 Amazing Pictures of Lucky Escapes

http://www.oddee.com/item_97941.aspx

Edited at October 19, 2011 1:26 PM
October 19, 2011 1:29 PM - BoerumHillScott
Interesting sci-fi list, Biff.

On the other hand, science fiction writers up until the mid 1990s assumed that tape would be the dominant media for storing video and music well into the future.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:29 PM
October 19, 2011 1:30 PM - dibs
BHS, are you worried about your floppy disk?
October 19, 2011 1:30 PM - Biff Champion
Scott, true. And let's not forget The Jeane Dixon effect:

John Allen Paulos, a mathematician at Temple University, coined the term "the Jeane Dixon effect," which refers to a tendency to promote a few correct predictions while ignoring a larger number of incorrect predictions. Many of Dixon's predictions proved false, such as her claims that a dispute over the offshore Chinese islands of Quemoy and Matsu would trigger the start of World War III in 1958, that Walter Reuther, an American labor union leader, would run for President of the United States in the 1964 presidential election and that the Russians would be the first to put men on the moon.
October 19, 2011 1:31 PM - Biff Champion
If one man says, "it was an uphill battle," and another says, "it went downhill from there," how could they both be having troubles?
October 19, 2011 1:32 PM - petebklyn
Where is Dodd-Frank does it say, require, suggest than banks charge debit card fees? typical republican spin....ignore the truth. Are republicans suggesting that law forbid banks from charging the fees?
October 19, 2011 1:33 PM - dibs
Biff, nowadays that would be referred to as the "Nouriel Roubini Effect" since he has been correct on one out of the last three recessions he predicted.
October 19, 2011 1:33 PM - Donatella
Interesting article, Pete. The NYTimes (and anybody) would love that kind of internecine battle. And the regulators did pit those two against one another. That is a long and interesting story and the guy on the right is the white hat in my humble opinion.
October 19, 2011 1:34 PM - dibs
Pete, D-F required the changes at the retailer on the debit fees. The law of unintended consequences would have correctly predicted that, without those fees, the banks would raise other ones.
October 19, 2011 1:36 PM - Biff Champion
Are those bedbug bites on Jeffrey Sprecher's face?
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:36 PM
October 19, 2011 1:37 PM - boerumresident
DIBS -- that's not true. As some predicted, some banks will charge fees because they believe that it will increase profitability at the expense of a few customers, and others will not in order to keep/attract depositors. What the CPFB needs to do is make it simple for depositors to compare banking packages in order to figure out what they would like.
October 19, 2011 1:38 PM - dibs
Probably herpes.
October 19, 2011 1:38 PM - More4Less
am not happy with Obama but that disappointment doesn't lead me into the arms of Romney. Different story if it was my boy Christie
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:38 PM
October 19, 2011 1:40 PM - dibs
BR...yes it IS true. The fees to the banking customer were a direct result of the change in structure of fees to the retailer. The banks have clearly said so.

Your follow on point, though correct, is irrelevant to the initial reason that they raised fees.

And yes, they are to raise profitability. Apparently only in Obama's eyes and a few Dem Senators this is wrong.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:41 PM
October 19, 2011 1:40 PM - petebklyn
Who signed this law of unintended consequences? or that in the constitution.

October 19, 2011 1:41 PM - Donatella
He breaks out from stress, I guess.
October 19, 2011 1:41 PM - petebklyn
same thing with the ATM's .. Remember how all free free free until bank got everyone using and used to them. Then the fees started.
Are you saying banks should not be allowed to charge the fees?

October 19, 2011 1:41 PM - dibs
It's part of the Bill of Rights, actually.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:41 PM
October 19, 2011 1:43 PM - dibs
"Are you saying banks should not be allowed to charge the fees?"

that is essentially what Obama was saying after B of A raised them.
October 19, 2011 1:44 PM - More4Less
shame on bush and obama - should've let the those banks be spanked and fail. saving a bank and expect them to be grateful and nice afterwards- that too is a quack quack whack assumptions. no genius regulation works as well as "scared the shit out extinction" fears the triggers good self regulations.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:44 PM
October 19, 2011 1:44 PM - Legion
hahaha,
This story is one for the annals of creative parenting,
father forces teenage daughter into "renaissance" style duel as punishment for running away:

http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2011/10/18/washington-father-arrested-for-forcing-daughter-into-renaissance-battle/
October 19, 2011 1:47 PM - Legion
"...am not happy with Obama but that disappointment doesn't lead me into the arms of Romney"

M4L,
As Einstein once said:
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:47 PM
October 19, 2011 1:48 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"should've let the those banks be spanked and fail."

I wonder how that would have shaken out. And what things would look like right about now.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:48 PM
October 19, 2011 1:48 PM - dibs
Here's a great example of where the industry does try to police itself...

"Blackrock Calls For Ban of ETF Label for Riskier Funds Using Derivatives."
October 19, 2011 1:50 PM - Legion
Things would look fine.

Nature abhors a vacuum.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:50 PM
October 19, 2011 1:53 PM - Arkady
I just got a new vacuum - a Dyson. I abhor vacuums too - only my housekeeper uses them.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:53 PM
October 19, 2011 1:53 PM - dibs
According to The Countess deLave, nature abhors a frozen asset.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:53 PM
October 19, 2011 1:54 PM - dibs
Never abhor a good hoover.
October 19, 2011 1:54 PM - More4Less
Legion, ALL (yes, ALL as in 100%) politicians do compromised shit for the sake of re-election positioning. The odds of Obama, in his 2nd and last term in office, being different vs. Romney (or any other new president) NOT making compromised decisions for re-election positioning - I'll put my money on Obama. To assume a 1st term president to NOT be concerned about re-election position, that would be INSANITY.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:54 PM
October 19, 2011 1:55 PM - Biff Champion
Wow, the PLUSAs have hockey loving evil twins:

www.blueshirtbanter.com/2011/10/18/2498471/new-york-rangers-open-game-thread-rangers-still-seeking-first-win-of#comments

An open thread during last night's hockey game, posters exchanging emails, over 1,000 comments, avatars, pictures being posted...
October 19, 2011 1:55 PM - Arkady
My cats hate them too.
October 19, 2011 1:56 PM - dibs
Arkady, that's what sets humans apart from animals...fear of the vacuum cleaner; not much else.
Edited at October 19, 2011 1:56 PM
October 19, 2011 1:57 PM - Legion
lol biff,
substitute
Cats for Canucks
and
Republicans for Rangers
and it's the OT on a good day!
October 19, 2011 1:59 PM - More4Less
Cobble, letting the banks fail would've hurt big time but that would've passed by now vs us still sitting in this dragged out no end in sight BS.
October 19, 2011 2:02 PM - MontroseMorris
"Just remember, you can thank Dodd Frank for your new debit card fees"

Yes, because the new laws FORCED banks to make more profit than they already are.
Edited at October 19, 2011 2:02 PM
October 19, 2011 2:04 PM - bxgrl
"M4L,
As Einstein once said:
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."

Well legion- if that doesn't perfectly describe the Republicans with their rehashes of trickle down economics over the year, I don't know what does.
October 19, 2011 2:04 PM - Legion
M4L,
ha ha
I see why you wanted Christie.
That dude would have come to the White House the first day and
said:
"ok, here's how we do things now: My Way or GTFO!"
"re-election campaign?
Come over here. You see what I'm signing here?
It's an Executive Order, Ordering you to punch yourself in the face. now GTFO!"

"Bring me that tele-prompter.
Here's what I think of teleprompters. I bend them in half with my teeth.
you see.
Now get me a sammich and make it snappy."
October 19, 2011 2:06 PM - Legion
bxgrl,
I've got Governor Christie on the phone here,
he wants to talk to you.

October 19, 2011 2:07 PM - dibs
"Now get me a sammich and make it snappy."

OH GOD...what would be acceptable to put in it???????
October 19, 2011 2:08 PM - Biff Champion
Just when I thought I might defect to that New York Rangers blog, I read this:

Why is a horse singing the national anthems?
- by The Shiv on Oct 18, 2011 10:14 PM EDT reply

Its Canada
- by tommydrum33 on Oct 18, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply

October 19, 2011 2:09 PM - MontroseMorris
"Pete, D-F required the changes at the retailer on the debit fees. The law of unintended consequences would have correctly predicted that, without those fees, the banks would raise other ones."

So what you are saying is that in order to not have unintended consequences, there should be no rules or regulations on the banks at all, because left to their own devices, they will altruistically GIVE the small account holders all kinds of services and perks. Like the ability to use and spend their own money. After all, the banks are making so much money that it's the least they can do, and it shows their gratitude to all of us little people who filter our hard earned money through their coffers year after year after year.
October 19, 2011 2:11 PM - bxgrl
Legion- oh good! I have a few things to say to him too.
October 19, 2011 2:11 PM - dibs
Don't put words in my mouth, MM. There's no ulterior motive or conspiracy theory here.....It's very simple.....regulate one source of income away and the bank will go after it in another form. even you and bxgrl should be able to figure that out.
October 19, 2011 2:11 PM - More4Less
Legion, imagine Obama was in 2nd term when this crisis hit and his advisors (Summers and Geitner) trying to bullying him into backing off in letting the banks to fail? he would've said "Hey hold up; Who's the president here?? Yeah, that's right. It's MEEEEEEE. Back the F up. You give opinions. I give orders and the order here is let them fail and one of you go get me some eats from the 5 guys joint"
October 19, 2011 2:14 PM - Legion
ha M4L,
I love those 5 Guys burgers and fries!
October 19, 2011 2:16 PM - Deleted
I would support Dodd-Frank if they had stopped the banks from sending credit card applications to me. Now THAT would have been useful. How many applications is Chase going to send me before they get the idea that I will not be applying for their Sapphire card?
October 19, 2011 2:17 PM - Legion
We need a "loser pays" law for credit card offers.
If you send me a credit card offer and I decline,
you pay me for the use of my mailbox space.

October 19, 2011 2:17 PM - More4Less
banks are what they are. they were that way before and they'll be that way going forward. Am sure when doctors save a hyena, they don't expect it be nicer animal post recovery. they expect it to be what it has always been - a fearless eating/hunting machine. So on that note, it IS a mistake for politicians to expect banks to act otherwise - ie should've let it die if it's practices are so unacceptable
October 19, 2011 2:19 PM - Deleted
Legion;

Excellent.

See that: Legion comes up with a useful reform, and it only took one paragraph, rather than the 1000's of pages in Dodd-Frank
October 19, 2011 2:20 PM - BoerumHillScott
Without some sort of fees, there is no way for banks to make money on small checking accounts.

This has always been the case.

For the last 15 years or so, most of the bank's income on small checking accounts came from overdraft and related charges. In effect, people with poor money management skills were subsidizing those good skills.
Take away that income stream, and banks will find another source of income.



Edited at October 19, 2011 2:21 PM
October 19, 2011 2:20 PM - More4Less
Benson, those card offers is the banks way of giving back to gov - ie subsidizing USPS via them mailing fees
October 19, 2011 2:21 PM - Arkady
There are more people doing more kinds of transactions w/ banks & yet the pro-rated costs are higher that when the work had to be done by human beings. Other countries don't allow banks to be such profit centers - but they still make a load of money.
October 19, 2011 2:21 PM - Legion
The banks are being treated like those poor animals in Ohio that they're shooting.
They are told to make money lending money, so they act all wild doing it.
Then they are sent out to the masses to be torn apart by people saying they're mean.
October 19, 2011 2:26 PM - Biff Champion
Maybe I will defect to the NY Rangers blog after all...
October 19, 2011 2:27 PM - dibs
Maybe I will defect to the NY Rangers blog after all...

Biff, please, if you're going to defect, use the toilet.
October 19, 2011 2:28 PM - Slopefarm
Biff, I tried opening the Rangers blog and it kind of froze (so to speak). Would not fully open and I could not close the window, either. Not sure I would take chances given your firewall sisues at work. But I agree, can we just smooth this banking/political discussion over with a zamboni and start fresh?
October 19, 2011 2:30 PM - dibs
Cute looking Indian broker coming to see my house tomorrow.........

http://www.elliman.com/real-estate-agent/neal-patel/2401
October 19, 2011 2:30 PM - Legion
There's a movement afoot towards Credit Unions I hear.
October 19, 2011 2:30 PM - Slopefarm
"They are told to make money lending money, so they act all wild doing it."

Must have been the First Feral Savings Bank.

October 19, 2011 2:32 PM - dibs
Legion, I'm no longer well informed about credit unions. I think my parents borrowed from one to buy their first house. But yes, i've seen a lot more ads on TV for them recently.
October 19, 2011 2:32 PM - Legion
lol slopefarm,
Yes, they have a branch at the Zoo, or so I'm told.
October 19, 2011 2:33 PM - Slopefarm
"They are told to make money lending money, so they act all wild doing it."

One might even say "predatory."

October 19, 2011 2:34 PM - More4Less
DIBS, that broker has fallen from grace. He was a banker and now a real estate agent. Make sure to show him the basement and your tools then explain how he can earn some extra money there
October 19, 2011 2:34 PM - Legion
what do you expect in such a "hawkish" credit environment?
October 19, 2011 2:35 PM - dibs
yes, I saw that he was a banker for a whole bunch of firms. I'm sure daddy got him the job. Why he bounced from one to another though is unclear. I bet he became a broker right at the top of the bubble.
Edited at October 19, 2011 2:36 PM
October 19, 2011 2:35 PM - Legion
dibs,
I'm not sure what credit unions are all about either.
I think they basically function as non-profit institutions.
October 19, 2011 2:35 PM - petebklyn
I now know why benson keeps calling the NYTimes irrelevant. Again another special section in todays paper --- called Wealth ---
if that ever had a special section call - Poverty they would become more relevant.
October 19, 2011 2:36 PM - Deleted
Must all conversations end in a punfest?? Must they?!?!?!?
October 19, 2011 2:37 PM - Legion
benson,
I didn't expect such a biting rebuke from you!
October 19, 2011 2:38 PM - Biff Champion
Must all punfests end in a political debate?? Must they?!?!?!?
October 19, 2011 2:38 PM - Slopefarm
Well, legion, I was surprised at the number of cheetahs. Lots of lion, too. But, I tigress.
October 19, 2011 2:38 PM - dibs
benson, you're getting a little musty yourself!!!
October 19, 2011 2:38 PM - petebklyn
we use a 'credit union' upstate - but I admit not knowing what that means. Maybe limited to certain aspects of banking,
and they do have this residency or place of work requirement of some sort. What I do know is they have change counting machine for free.
October 19, 2011 2:39 PM - Biff Champion
You guys are more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
October 19, 2011 2:39 PM - dibs
I'd be lion if I said they didn't.
Edited at October 19, 2011 2:39 PM
October 19, 2011 2:40 PM - dibs
benson, I think giraffe ter something that's unobtainable
October 19, 2011 2:40 PM - Slopefarm
It's the OT version of Godwin's law. It's the way to end all arguments.
Edited at October 19, 2011 2:40 PM
October 19, 2011 2:40 PM - Legion
I was doing a *rob* recently and hanging out at another blog.
This one caters to health care providers.
Wow, I was like a savage that came to dinner there!

Other blogs are not as randy as we are here. :o(
October 19, 2011 2:42 PM - Biff Champion
Legion, you should try the hockey blog. We're a punch of pussy cats compared to those animals.
October 19, 2011 2:43 PM - Deleted
Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 19, 2011 2:44 PM - Biff Champion
How does benson get his Argh to run off the page like that?
October 19, 2011 2:44 PM - dibs
Bear in mind, benson, you started it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 19, 2011 2:45 PM - Biff Champion
I can Sealaska from my porch.
October 19, 2011 2:45 PM - dibs
Biff, don't panda to him.
October 19, 2011 2:47 PM - Biff Champion
DIBS, you otter be arrested for that one.
October 19, 2011 2:47 PM - More4Less
DIBS, that there is a patent / trademark violation - I own the exclusive use of panda and related references
Edited at October 19, 2011 2:47 PM
October 19, 2011 2:48 PM - dibs
I'm just yaking away.
Edited at October 19, 2011 2:48 PM
October 19, 2011 2:50 PM - dibs
Cat or panda??????


Edited at October 19, 2011 2:51 PM
October 19, 2011 2:51 PM - BoerumHillScott
Credit unions are member-owned banking institutions.
For the most part, the profits they generate go into their savings account rates.

Most of my banking is done through a credit union in Birmingham.
They offer better interest rates on my check and savings account than I could get with any local bank.

I keep an account at Chase with the minimum balance needed to avoid fees for when I need something done in person or when I want to use an ATM to get cash.




Edited at October 19, 2011 2:51 PM
October 19, 2011 2:51 PM - Slopefarm
Fair use doctrine might cover puns. Owl look into it.
October 19, 2011 2:54 PM - dibs
In case you missed it on the first page...cat or panda????
Edited at October 19, 2011 2:54 PM
October 19, 2011 2:54 PM - Donatella


Must have been the First Feral Savings Bank.


HAHAHAHA.......lol slopie.


October 19, 2011 2:55 PM - More4Less
this should improve Benson's mood a little
Edited at October 19, 2011 2:55 PM
October 19, 2011 2:55 PM - bxgrl
Can we stop horsing around and leave poor benson in peace? Man works like a beaver and all he gets is harassed by the dam puns.
October 19, 2011 2:57 PM - bxgrl
"It's very simple.....regulate one source of income away and the bank will go after it in another form. even you and bxgrl should be able to figure that out."

Indeed we can do far more since we see the greed and abuse that you don't.
Edited at October 19, 2011 2:57 PM
October 19, 2011 3:00 PM - dibs
Is there really greed and abuse in extending a fee to debit card holders????? Really???? greed??? they are in business for the shareholders.

Where's the abuse??????
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:01 PM
October 19, 2011 3:03 PM - More4Less
BTW, Gong Li is currently among my top repatriotion targets. Dating John Cusack is just not acceptable / tolerated by my bosses back home.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:03 PM
October 19, 2011 3:03 PM - BoerumHillScott
There has been been plenty of greed, abuse, and really stupid business decisions in the banking industry, but for the most part it was not in the consumer banking areas that are taking so much heat.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:03 PM
October 19, 2011 3:05 PM - dibs
Certainly true, Scott
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:05 PM
October 19, 2011 3:06 PM - bxgrl

"I hope the people on Wall Street will pay attention to the people on Main Street. If they do, they will see there is a rising tide of confidence in the future of America."

-Ronald Reagan, 1981
October 19, 2011 3:07 PM - Deleted
"this should improve Benson's mood a little"

Mission Accomplished!


October 19, 2011 3:10 PM - dibs
I'm wearing my red that from Thailand with the elephants on it. We should have had a RMLC
October 19, 2011 3:11 PM - Deleted
Yes, what happened to the RMLC luncheons? Let's try to revive. Shall we rename ourselves "The one percenters"?


October 19, 2011 3:20 PM - Legion
haha dibs,
I like how you keep those photos on file for future use
as a comedic backdrop.

I laugh every time I see the Elizabeth Warren photo now.

...and that Cat-Panda has such a funny expression.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:20 PM
October 19, 2011 3:24 PM - More4Less
iphone 4s comes out - media coverage everywhere.

google Nexus comes out - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
October 19, 2011 3:25 PM - Arkady
My beef is that the banks don't give a rat's ass for the runts & try to cow us into overblown fees.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:25 PM
October 19, 2011 3:27 PM - dibs
The drop in Apple today because they reported $7.05 instead of the expected $7.31 is a BUYING OPPORTUNITY
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:28 PM
October 19, 2011 3:28 PM - Legion
Arkady,
That's true,
just because they act like the 800 lb Gorilla
doesn't mean thet we're lambs for the slaughter!
October 19, 2011 3:29 PM - Arkady
Apple's dropping is an issue of some gravity.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:29 PM
October 19, 2011 3:29 PM - dibs
EAT YOU PEAS AND PAY YOUR FEES
October 19, 2011 3:29 PM - More4Less
DIBS, my issue with apple at this level is that the mkt is just not giving them sufficient respect from a P/E perspective - ie odds of it facing P/E compression far outweighs expansion.
October 19, 2011 3:30 PM - dibs
Tell us why, Arkady.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:32 PM
October 19, 2011 3:30 PM - Arkady
Indeed, Legion. They keep monkeying around & trying to fleece us.
October 19, 2011 3:30 PM - dibs
"DIBS, my issue with apple at this level is that the mkt is just not giving them sufficient respect from a P/E perspective - ie odds of it facing P/E compression far outweighs expansion."

That sentence doesn't make sense.
October 19, 2011 3:31 PM - Legion
...as if we're the goose that laid the golden egg.
October 19, 2011 3:31 PM - Arkady
Surely it's not gnu to you, dibs.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:31 PM
October 19, 2011 3:33 PM - Arkady
It makes you roo the whole dog gone thing.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:33 PM
October 19, 2011 3:33 PM - Slopefarm
Mrs. Slopey and I are looking for a bank that will give ocelot of interest on our deposits.
October 19, 2011 3:34 PM - Biff Champion
M4L, seems like the Gong Li/John Cusack thing was a year or two ago. I didn't think they were official or even linked at all anymore. Are they?
October 19, 2011 3:34 PM - Arkady
That's hard, Slopes, because they hog most of the kine of money you fish for.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:34 PM
October 19, 2011 3:34 PM - Legion
To be fair,
the protesters are using the banks as some sort of bugbear.
October 19, 2011 3:35 PM - Slopefarm
RE: dibs @ 3:30: You saying m4l's analysis does not appeal to you and does not reflect your core principles?
October 19, 2011 3:35 PM - Arkady
Put a tompion in it.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:35 PM
October 19, 2011 3:36 PM - CGar
Mission(ary) Accomplished, Puma.
October 19, 2011 3:36 PM - Legion
ha ha Arkady
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:36 PM
October 19, 2011 3:36 PM - More4Less
DIBS, look at the other PIG Tech Mega caps - microsoft, intel, oracle, ibm,.... their P/E's were once a lot higher then it gradually drifted to their current levels. God forbid apple's stellar earnings slows down a little, their P/E would face compression. on the flip side, I see no P/E expansion even if they keep up their current stellar earnings. ie ~12 P/E for their '12 EPS is just value stock levels for this high growth mega cap tech company. this is the whacky piece that irks me with Apple - ie Mkt not giving it enough respect from a P/E perspective
October 19, 2011 3:37 PM - MontroseMorris
"They are told to make money lending money, so they act all wild doing it."

One might even say "predatory."

Slopey, that was brilliant! Inspired, even.


October 19, 2011 3:40 PM - dibs
Slopey, the sentence itself does not make sense. He says that they aren't being given sufficient respect from a P/E perspective and then he says he expects it to go down.

It's illogical.
October 19, 2011 3:41 PM - BoerumHillScott
I don't think you should judge AAPL as a tech company.
They are almost completely a consumer products company.

The big tech companies could shut down all new development today and coast for a couple of years or more on maintenance contracts.
With only minor improvements, they can keep selling new versions to existing corporate customers for a decade.

Even with an army of devoted fans, the consumer space is much more fickle than that.
October 19, 2011 3:42 PM - MontroseMorris
"Is there really greed and abuse in extending a fee to debit card holders????? Really???? greed??? they are in business for the shareholders."

Yes. Yes. Yes. And it's not like the shareholders are not making money, otherwise.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:42 PM
October 19, 2011 3:42 PM - More4Less
DIBS, as you say often, that's reading comprehension FAIL.
October 19, 2011 3:42 PM - dibs
Blomberg P/E estimates:

INTC 9.8
IBM 13.3
MSFT 9.5
TSM 16.7
GOOG 15.7

AAPL 11.6

Right in the middle and with a higher growth rate than most





October 19, 2011 3:43 PM - dibs
"Is there really greed and abuse in extending a fee to debit card holders????? Really???? greed??? they are in business for the shareholders."

Yes. Yes. Yes. And it's not like the shareholders are not making money, otherwise.

CONVENIENTLY you left out the Abuse charge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 19, 2011 3:44 PM - dibs
Sorry, m4l...your statement was illogical. if you want to rephrase it I might listen.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:44 PM
October 19, 2011 3:46 PM - dibs
"Yes. Yes. Yes. And it's not like the shareholders are not making money, otherwise."

I guess you really have no idea what the stock has done. BAC that is.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:46 PM
October 19, 2011 3:46 PM - Legion
"Right in the middle and with a higher growth rate than most"

Curiously enough,
these are the same characteristics looked for in the adult film industry.

.
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:46 PM
October 19, 2011 3:47 PM - More4Less
DIBS, nowhere in there did I say it'll go down. show me where I said it's PE will go down
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:47 PM
October 19, 2011 3:48 PM - Slopefarm
Dibs, I was riffing off of your comment to m4l to do apple puns, since the topic was Apple stock (and arakdy started it with her gravity comment).

Just to be clear, wev'e got two punfests, though both seem to have run their respective courses: 1. a banking & finance/wild animal combo; 2. apples.
October 19, 2011 3:48 PM - dibs
"odds of it facing P/E compression far outweighs expansion."

That means go down.
October 19, 2011 3:49 PM - dibs
Slopey, don't try and pit yourself against Arkady in a punfest.
October 19, 2011 3:49 PM - Deleted
Scott is spot on in his analysis of Apple.

My company is still selling components for systems deployed by some of the big tech companies more than 10 years ago. These systems have a much longer development cycle and product life. I've been working with a tech company for more than three years on a component they have yet to deploy in the field.
October 19, 2011 3:50 PM - Legion
[sitting in drive-thru]

"yeah, I'll take the wild animal combo
with a side of apples"

"yes, the Wall Street Special"
October 19, 2011 3:51 PM - MontroseMorris
Yeah, it's abusive. It's also not necessary, and at a time like this, in our economy, it's a slap in the face to people struggling to get by. So what if it's "ONLY" five dollars a month? If you are unemployed, that $5 can be better spent on something someone chooses to spend it on.


October 19, 2011 3:53 PM - Slopefarm
lol. legion.
October 19, 2011 3:56 PM - More4Less
DIBS, that comment meant if there's going to be a P/E change, it's more probable that it would be compression vs expansion. that's not me saying the P/E will change and go down. My point is apple keeping up current stellar earnings growth only entitles it to the current low P/E but if it slows down, they face p/e compression risk - ie this assymetric profile that I don't like. btwn, those other mega caps (ibm, intc, msft,...) don't have the stellar growth profiles as apple so for apple to hav similar P/E's is just ridiculous (ie lack of respect from mkt)
Edited at October 19, 2011 3:57 PM
October 19, 2011 3:58 PM - dibs
I'm buying AAPL because I think they will beat the next quarter, not because I think they will continue to grow at 40%+ for the next 5 years...BIG difference.
October 19, 2011 3:59 PM - More4Less
that google nexus phone looks pretty big - unless those asian girls modelling them have really small hands
October 19, 2011 4:00 PM - Deleted
It is not a lack of respect from the market. It is an acknowledgement that their fate could change in an instant. Just ask Motorola, Nokia and other former "consumer tech" darlings. IBM and Microsoft, on the other hand, have a much more solid business base that almost acts like an annuity. Hence, while Apple may have a greater growth rate right now, the sustainability of their earnings stream is not as assured as these other companies.
October 19, 2011 4:00 PM - dibs
4:00 Raunch Hour
October 19, 2011 4:01 PM - More4Less
at these levels, I'm more comfortable buying their products vs the stock. to each his own
October 19, 2011 4:01 PM - dibs
Yes benson but look what happened to MSFT share price given its level of recurring and sustainable earnings!!!!!
October 19, 2011 4:02 PM - Donatella
I walked to the Post Office, my own personal penance station, to pick up some EXTREMELY important something or other, to be picked up AFTER 12pm with a number containing about 17 numbers and about 4or 5 random letters. As usual, there was utter pandemonium in the post office. people fighting on line. People cursing out the clerks. Multiple F bombs. Bulging jugulars, etc. etc. And the guy couldn't find my EXTREMELY important letter. He asked me "Would you kindly go away?" Nah, not really. He photocopied my notice and put his name and number on my original for me to call him, which is the same as saying "Would you kindly go away?" I didn't even want to broach the issue of my lock box and the soggy mail. The USPS is a third world postal service. No, that would be disrespectful to the 3rd world.

October 19, 2011 4:03 PM - Donatella
Oh, but I was calm. The meditation worked. I still didn't get my document though. Wonder what it was....
October 19, 2011 4:05 PM - dibs
dona, when are you going to learn. Demand that the sender use FedEx.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:05 PM
October 19, 2011 4:06 PM - dibs
The morons at the post office can't even provide an effective tracking service.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:06 PM
October 19, 2011 4:07 PM - BoerumHillScott
Think of what would have happened to MSFT during their various stumbles over the last 10 years if they were not making most of their money off of corporate customers.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:07 PM
October 19, 2011 4:07 PM - Legion
Meanwhile, somewhere in Suriname:

"Honey, there's a package here for you."

"Really?I wasn't expecting that for weeks!"

October 19, 2011 4:08 PM - Slopefarm
Serenity now, dona, serenity NOW!
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:08 PM
October 19, 2011 4:08 PM - Donatella
I don't even know who the sender was, dibs. They didn't write it on the slip. And I wasn't expecting anything. It was probably something from one of the insurance companies involved in the parked car accident in which I participated. My exciting life. Another fun fact - the idiot who caused the accident borrowed the car without permission. He wasn't even covered. Good thing I have collision. But it looks like I would have to sue him for my deductible. Big waste of time.
October 19, 2011 4:11 PM - Deleted
I saw the Chairman of the Board of Governors of the USPS on CSPAN a few days ago. He is actually requesting that the USPS be cut free and deregulated. He thinks that that is the only way for true reform to happen. Congress is resisting him, probably because they fear the lay-offs that would inevitably happen.
October 19, 2011 4:12 PM - petebklyn
FedEx is the worst.
Why should the USPS have a tracking system to keep track of your conquests?
October 19, 2011 4:13 PM - Donatella


OOOOOOOOOOoommmmmmmm.................
October 19, 2011 4:17 PM - petebklyn
Do you honestly think senators and congressman of rural areas would allow that sort of thing? democrat or republican.
and they are mostly republican.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:17 PM
October 19, 2011 4:19 PM - Donatella

Once upon a time, a long long time ago, I actually thought USPS next day service actually meant Next Day. HHAHAHAHAAAA.......what I silly, silly goose I was. Something I sent to my parents. Where there is ALWAYS somebody home. But when USPS gets jammed, they just write "rung...no answer". I really like UPS. Supposedly, ebay is keeping USPS alive. They give all kinds of service/breaks to ebay sellers.
October 19, 2011 4:19 PM - DeLepp
It's a photo finish between USPS and Time Warner.
October 19, 2011 4:20 PM - Donatella
USPS is already eliminating hundreds of rural post offices.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:20 PM
October 19, 2011 4:21 PM - More4Less
any chance of apple giving a massive 1-time div like msft does once in a while? ~80B of cash in b/s and ~10B cashflow per qtr = big ass div if they choose to do so
October 19, 2011 4:21 PM - Donatella
Really. Time Warner presents many opportunities for developing anger management skills.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:21 PM
October 19, 2011 4:22 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
DonaT, I need to know what meditation you did that worked for you. My morning consisted of confirming something I already knew: That going to court in Queens is akin to entering the 7th layer of hell.

Ct. Clerk: Where are your papers, counselor???
Me: Right here. (hand her the papers)
Defendant: Here. (hands her his papers)

10 minutes later...

Ct. Clerk: I don't know what youse expect me to do with this case! Ya didn't gimme any papahs!
Me: Um, ma'am. My papers are in your left hand.
Ct. Clerk: I'm confused
Me (sotto voce): Ya don't say...

20 minutes later:

Ct. Clerk: But where the hell are the papers???
Me and Defense Atty in unison: Jesus.
October 19, 2011 4:22 PM - Slopefarm
UPS ok for overnight, but terrible for shipping goods. In the past year they've managed to get a bunch of grease and tar all over a rug and smash up a coffee table. And they always disclaim responsibility saying it was packed wrong.
October 19, 2011 4:23 PM - Slopefarm
Yes, snappy, Dante would have written about Queens court, but ran out of circles.
October 19, 2011 4:24 PM - petebklyn
dona, usps has proposed doing that. Not already happening...and there is 'bipartisan' resistance to it in congress.
October 19, 2011 4:25 PM - Arkady
The problems w/ all carriers stem from the fact that they ignore the core of their businesses: customer a-peel.
October 19, 2011 4:25 PM - More4Less
how much does such a clerk role pays? I think I can do that after I'm fired from my gig.
October 19, 2011 4:26 PM - petebklyn
I don't order goods from internet so I rarely get packages. Only pain-in-the-butt has been Fedex.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:26 PM
October 19, 2011 4:26 PM - Bedstuymaven
Snaps - I am so sorry but, I am laughing my patootie off.
October 19, 2011 4:26 PM - dibs
Would someone please prune Arkady.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:26 PM
October 19, 2011 4:26 PM - Arkady
You are barking up the wrong tree if you think they care about delivering your see-dees on time.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:26 PM
October 19, 2011 4:27 PM - Arkady
You're a pit, dibs.
October 19, 2011 4:27 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I think I may have to quit if I get sent back to court in Queens. I just don't have that level of tolerance. I'd rather get a job waiting for the phone company to show up for people's appointments. A lot less frustrating.
October 19, 2011 4:28 PM - Donatella
I will tell you about my meditation technique the next time I see you Snappy. It works, but sounds a little wierd and this is a rough crowd. oh, but in the meantime, you can just sit in a chair for a few minutes and breathe deeply and slowly.
October 19, 2011 4:28 PM - More4Less
"Trump is still not ruling out a run at the White House" - who the fuck would believe that bogus claim??? Can one of the banks structure a CDS or something whereby I can bet money on him not running??
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:28 PM
October 19, 2011 4:28 PM - Arkady
Court should be a like a grove of academe.
October 19, 2011 4:28 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
BSM, next time I'll may you go to court for me! One round of dealing with that airhead I had today and you'll feel my pain :-) It does read like a 3 Stooges skit though, doesn't it!
October 19, 2011 4:29 PM - Bedstuymaven
how much does such a clerk role pays? I think I can do that after I'm fired from my gig.

M4L - I am guessing my 30's to 40's to start. I know some one who just started as a clerk to a judge. She started at 45k. I am guessing the people at the window make a little less
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:29 PM
October 19, 2011 4:29 PM - Donatella
M4L, you are NEVER getting fired from your job. You are the most popular guy over there. They love you. You need to negotiate a retention bonus.
October 19, 2011 4:29 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
DonaT, had there been a chair anywhere near me, I would not have sat in it. I likely would have swung it upside her cabesa. HARD.

:-)
October 19, 2011 4:30 PM - dibs
They are civil servants. Despite the name, their sense of entitlement means that they only serve themselves. they cannot be fired.

Your taxes are paying their salaries and all of you should be more outraged at all of it.
October 19, 2011 4:31 PM - Arkady
The judiciary is an important branch of gov't. Lawyers snap like twigs if they can't carry the fruits of their labors.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:31 PM
October 19, 2011 4:31 PM - More4Less
See, no delivery man is as good, reliable, and pleasant as this chinese food delivery Chinaman. But wait, the difference is I'm that good cause I'm tipped for the excellent svc. Genius proposal - put the USPS folks on predominantly "Tips" compensation plan.
October 19, 2011 4:32 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
M4L, BSM, this type of clerk is an atty. She's likely making at least 70K, most probably more, and sweet ass benefits too.
October 19, 2011 4:33 PM - Bedstuymaven
and pleasant as this chinese food delivery Chinaman.

Pleasant is not a word usually associated with chinese food delivery men.
October 19, 2011 4:33 PM - Arkady
But it's not surprising you feel drupey, Snaps, & are scion to leaf the office.
October 19, 2011 4:34 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I need alcohol. This day just blows.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:34 PM
October 19, 2011 4:34 PM - Donatella
I spent some serious time in Brooklyn tenant/landlord court with my nutjob inherited tenant. [waving sentimentally.....bye bye Monica]. I won the court case and I was also awarded my claim for damages. This is why I try to take really good care of my tenants. AND why I am not wringing the last dollar out of them (even though the rent is now seriously below market). Court is not fun.
October 19, 2011 4:34 PM - dibs
"Pleasant is not a word usually associated with chinese food delivery men."

Especially the Cantonese!!!!
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:34 PM
October 19, 2011 4:36 PM - Biff Champion
I just answered my own question. Thanks for nothing M4L

http://www.bigwowo.com/2011/08/say-it-aint-so-gong-li/
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:36 PM
October 19, 2011 4:36 PM - Legion
"Trump is still not ruling out a run at the White House" - who the fuck would believe that bogus claim??? Can one of the banks structure a CDS or something whereby I can bet money on him not running??"

What's the Over/Under that his hair doesn't make a run for office?
I'll take a piece of that action: Trump's Hair as the bottom of the ticket.

.
October 19, 2011 4:36 PM - Bedstuymaven
Snaps, maybe they will axe the clerks in favor of electronic log ins.
October 19, 2011 4:36 PM - More4Less
Donatella, 2 more people got told their gig is up at the end of Nov. I told my boss this morning "why should I continue doing / covering 4.5 jobs here when we're all going to be fired by or before Xmas? Just wanted to let you know where my head is at right now." I then walked away before his response. Not sure if that gets me a retention or a boot.
October 19, 2011 4:36 PM - Donatella
When is Trump going to have that "thing" removed?
October 19, 2011 4:37 PM - More4Less
BSM, if that's the case, you're probably tipping like Randi - ie CHEAPskate
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:37 PM
October 19, 2011 4:38 PM - Biff Champion
Why do Legion and Benson put a "." at the bottom of some of their posts?
October 19, 2011 4:39 PM - Legion
Newsflash:

Trump's Hair just issued a press release:

"It's on brother, this hair is large and in charge. Takin' it to the top!
Perry and Romney's stylists haven't seen anything yet."
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:39 PM
October 19, 2011 4:39 PM - Bedstuymaven
Snaps - check your gmail
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:39 PM
October 19, 2011 4:41 PM - Donatella
M4L, it seems like you are a heavy lifter over there and I would imagine that they really don't want to lose you. You have other offices, right? Could you be "relocated"? What would be perfect is if you could look for a job now, get a few possibilities lined up and then get a package from them just as you start a new job.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:41 PM
October 19, 2011 4:41 PM - Legion
biff,
I told you,
I have not connection to "."
It does what it wants to and I can't seem to shake it.
I honestly think it's a representative from the Grain Of Salt Union.
Somehow I might have offended them in one of my rants.
October 19, 2011 4:42 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
How much is the Powerball tonight? I really really really really need the winning ticket.

sigh
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:42 PM
October 19, 2011 4:42 PM - More4Less
Biff, it's your fault. don't blame me. I'm on the official Talent Repatriot squad and have top success rate so it's your fault for not taking my word for it. btw, you're free & clear till I close this case. The bosses back home has made this priority 1 for all the squads stationed in the US
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:42 PM
October 19, 2011 4:43 PM - Biff Champion
Whatever it is, I find it highly annoying and frankly, a major distraction. It's completely throwing off my concentration and negatively impacting my enjoyment of this blog.




.

Edited at October 19, 2011 4:43 PM
October 19, 2011 4:44 PM - dibs
Biff, you're starting to sound like Gene Shalit now.
October 19, 2011 4:44 PM - Legion
Why do they always say winning the lottery is one in a billion or something.
Last time I checked someone almost always wins in the tri-state area and
there is no way there are 1 billion mofos playing lotto.
They should just say, your odds of winning are the same as the deli section night crew at Waldbaum's.
October 19, 2011 4:45 PM - More4Less
Donatella, the office is going to be wiped out except for probably just the sales and sales support folks. aint moving to colorado. but if they ask me, I would lie and say "yes, I would be willing to move" to buy more time
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:45 PM
October 19, 2011 4:45 PM - Biff Champion
Now I get it. Legion and Benson are trying to distance themselves from whoever posts subsequent to them. Or perhaps it's a natural defensive survival instinct whereby they make their posts appear larger than they actually are when they feel an imminent threat is near.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:45 PM
October 19, 2011 4:45 PM - Bedstuymaven
BSM, if that's the case, you're probably tipping like Randi - ie CHEAPskate

Actually, I tend to over tip. They are just generally rude.
October 19, 2011 4:45 PM - Biff Champion
I'm also starting to look like Gene Shalit.
October 19, 2011 4:45 PM - Legion
.......
......
.......biff
.....whatever.....
you're doing.....stop.
.....you're making them angry!.....
.....
.


....

Edited at October 19, 2011 4:45 PM
October 19, 2011 4:46 PM - Bedstuymaven
BSM, if that's the case, you're probably tipping like Randi - ie CHEAPskate

they need to learn to say "Thank you"
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:46 PM
October 19, 2011 4:46 PM - More4Less
snaps, your don't have humungous spending plans so every week's drawings are big enough pots for you to win then retire
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:46 PM
October 19, 2011 4:46 PM - Biff Champion
Can women get away with tipping less if they flash their tatas to the bartender?
October 19, 2011 4:47 PM - Donatella
oh no Snappy......don't do that. Just do what I do. Take the chair and fling it vigorously against the wall. Actually I think you should go to a gym and work out on a punching bag.

Dibs, re your comment about civil servants.......I think that was part of the uprising on the postal line. Really it was a spontaneous borderline riot and I think it was because everybody was getting the same treatment as I (i.e. really shitty) and they realized that these idiots had jobs when I imagine most of the line was umemployed and that the postal clerks also did not take their jobs seriously.
October 19, 2011 4:47 PM - Biff Champion
Or maybe "." is the world's smallest violin that *Rob* uses as an indication of his lack of sympathy.
October 19, 2011 4:49 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Legion, not when it comes to Pball or Mega. Always some toothless yokel form either a flyover state or half underwater trailer park somewhere in the south. If need be, I'll yank out my teefuses and move!
October 19, 2011 4:49 PM - More4Less
BSM, is there any decent (I know there's NO good ones) Chinese takeaway places for Stuy? DIBS always bitches about that.
October 19, 2011 4:49 PM - Slopefarm
"I'll take a piece of that action: Trump's Hair as the bottom of the ticket."

Can't win. Flip flops too much. Can't comb over all the gaffes.

October 19, 2011 4:49 PM - Biff Champion
I wonder if DIBS and this guy would get along.
October 19, 2011 4:49 PM - Donatella
Legion: They should just say, your odds of winning are the same as the deli section night crew at Waldbaum's.

The same odds as getting your waiting package from the Adelphi Station on Fulton St.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:49 PM
October 19, 2011 4:50 PM - Deleted
snappy, if you win. take me with you
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:50 PM
October 19, 2011 4:50 PM - dibs
m4l, at this stage (and as long as he's around) I'd prefer to eat what Xing brings home.
October 19, 2011 4:51 PM - Biff Champion
M4L, I have a feeling DIBS picks his Chinese takeout restaurant based on quality of the deliverymen, not quality of the food.
October 19, 2011 4:51 PM - Bedstuymaven
Can women get away with tipping less if they flash their tatas to the bartender?

Only if you have implants
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:51 PM
October 19, 2011 4:51 PM - Arkady
That rug is a permanent fixture.
October 19, 2011 4:52 PM - Biff Champion
"m4l, at this stage (and as long as he's around) I'd prefer to eat what Xing brings home."

We know...
October 19, 2011 4:53 PM - More4Less
Snaps, the funny thing is everytime I visit in-laws in Richmond, I ask them to drive me to a rough hood there to buy the big game tix - ie so that it conforms to the profile you just described above.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:53 PM
October 19, 2011 4:55 PM - Arkady
The teabags would just give the Don a brush-off.
October 19, 2011 4:55 PM - Legion
snappy,
that gets me every time,
whenever it reaches 200 million or something and I pick up a few tickets at the gas station,
you always end up hearing that someone in Ohio or Arkansas won.
arrhhhhhhhh!
October 19, 2011 4:56 PM - Deleted
Artkady has become the OT's punster laureate!
October 19, 2011 4:56 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
DH, you got it!

I bought two Pball tix in Queens today. Queens owes me for the hell I went through up there. Can't we kick them out of City membership or something? Do we really need Queens?
October 19, 2011 4:56 PM - Biff Champion
I lasted the entire day without punching the woman next to me in the face. I consider that a major success and demonstration of tolerance on my part.
Edited at October 19, 2011 4:56 PM
October 19, 2011 4:57 PM - Bedstuymaven
Snaps, the funny thing is everytime I visit in-laws in Richmond, I ask them to drive me to a rough hood there to buy the big game tix

You need to buy your ticket in an area where there is a high concentration of meth labs, trailers or some god forsaken town where the only employer is a cheese factory.
October 19, 2011 4:57 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Legion, problem solved...next time we just take a road trip to Tuscolusa!
October 19, 2011 4:57 PM - Legion
donatella,

ha,
the least they could do is make the wait at the post office entertaining.
Who's idea was it to take away all those Most Wanted photographs.
I used to pass the time staring at the facial features of the patrons behind me.
October 19, 2011 4:58 PM - dibs
"Do we really need Queens?"

No, but Pete isn't going away anytime soon.
October 19, 2011 4:58 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
"where the only employer is a cheese factory."

Spray cheese in dented cans, to be exact.
October 19, 2011 4:59 PM - Biff Champion
I think one has to score below a certain number on a sociological exam to gain employment at the USPS.
October 19, 2011 5:00 PM - Biff Champion
Someone sprayed cheese in Denton's can?
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:01 PM
October 19, 2011 5:00 PM - dibs
That's nacho cheese , snappy.
October 19, 2011 5:00 PM - Bedstuymaven
Do we really need Queens?

The one in drag are really snappy dressers.
October 19, 2011 5:01 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
It is my cheese...I'm no thief :-)
October 19, 2011 5:01 PM - Slopefarm
"I lasted the entire day without punching the woman next to me in the face. I consider that a major success and demonstration of tolerance on my part."

So if this death star gig ever ends, you could always get people to pay you to wait on line for them at the post office. A postal expediter! You've got the temperment.

October 19, 2011 5:01 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Ok...we'll keep the drag queens, but the drama queens have to go :-)
October 19, 2011 5:02 PM - Biff Champion
"The one in drag are really snappy dressers."

Drag queens are dressing Snappy? That explains the glitter all over her clothes.
October 19, 2011 5:03 PM - Slopefarm
I think Groucho has a joke about Alabama being a great place to hunt elephants, because the Tuscaloosa.
October 19, 2011 5:03 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Nevermind punching people in the face. Removing your shoe and beating the ever-lovin' fuck out of them about the neck, head and shoulders is far more gratifying. Not that I have an anger/agression problem or anything...
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:03 PM
October 19, 2011 5:03 PM - Biff Champion
I might just go postal one of these days. This woman NEVER leaves her seat for more than 30 seconds!!
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:03 PM
October 19, 2011 5:03 PM - dibs
"Ok...we'll keep the drag queens"
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:03 PM
October 19, 2011 5:04 PM - Arkady
So she's the Queen Goddess?
October 19, 2011 5:05 PM - Biff Champion
Queens is a drag.
October 19, 2011 5:06 PM - Biff Champion
oops, forgot the





















.
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:06 PM
October 19, 2011 5:06 PM - dibs
That's george. Same guy as in this pic
October 19, 2011 5:07 PM - Deleted
Man, talk about "Extreme Makeovers"!!!!!
October 19, 2011 5:07 PM - Biff Champion
Brokeback Cowqueen
October 19, 2011 5:07 PM - Bedstuymaven
The Lady Chablis. Now, that's a drag queen
October 19, 2011 5:11 PM - Biff Champion
Funny Drag Queen names I just found online

Amanda Reckenwhith
Patty O'Furniture
Anna Conda
Wilma Fingerdu
October 19, 2011 5:12 PM - Biff Champion
What happens when Anita Baker and Andy Dick get married

Anita Dick
October 19, 2011 5:12 PM - dibs
My favorite has always been:

Lois Carmen Denominator
October 19, 2011 5:13 PM - Biff Champion
Anita Cocktail.
Angie O'Plasty
Tam Pon

Edited at October 19, 2011 5:13 PM
October 19, 2011 5:13 PM - Biff Champion
Honey Dijon
Anita Fajina
October 19, 2011 5:14 PM - Biff Champion
Tara Newashole
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:14 PM
October 19, 2011 5:15 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Betty Swallows
October 19, 2011 5:16 PM - Biff Champion
Rachel Tension
Tess Tickles
Sue Nahmi
Rhonda Vu
Carlotta Tendant
October 19, 2011 5:18 PM - Arkady
Hal Innes.
October 19, 2011 5:24 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Helen A. Handbasket

October 19, 2011 5:25 PM - rf
M4L, do you ever order Chinese takeout in Clinton Hill? We occasionally order from Eagle City, the place on the south side of Fulton St. between Washington and St. James--the one that also sells Mexican food. They deliver to my house. And they are not surly! When we lived in Clinton Hill we made friends with the people at Happy Chinese (the other side of Fulton on the corner of Washington) but they don't deliver by car. Restaurants in Park Slope delivered to Clinton Hill.
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:25 PM
October 19, 2011 5:26 PM - Bedstuymaven
Bonnie Ann Clyde
October 19, 2011 5:26 PM - Bedstuymaven
Ben Dover
October 19, 2011 5:27 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Carrie Oakie
October 19, 2011 5:27 PM - Arkady
Curtis E. Carr.
October 19, 2011 5:28 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Oliver Closeoff
October 19, 2011 5:28 PM - Bedstuymaven
Rick Shaw
October 19, 2011 5:28 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Dinah Meecha
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:28 PM
October 19, 2011 5:29 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Gene Poole
October 19, 2011 5:29 PM - Arkady
Off topic for basketball fans.
http://tinyurl.com/5s5pn8h
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:29 PM
October 19, 2011 5:30 PM - Bedstuymaven
Sonny Dey
October 19, 2011 5:30 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Hugh Jass
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:30 PM
October 19, 2011 5:31 PM - Biff Champion
Amber Alert
October 19, 2011 5:31 PM - Arkady
Shirley Knott.
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:31 PM
October 19, 2011 5:31 PM - Biff Champion
Aunt Arctic
Usta Bea Starr
Dusti House
Cookie Platter
Tajma Hall
A. Carolyn Wewillgo
October 19, 2011 5:31 PM - More4Less
rf, the few times that I do order chinese in the hood is via the one on dekalb & adelphi and the one on greene & waverly.
October 19, 2011 5:32 PM - Biff Champion
Anna Rexia
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:32 PM
October 19, 2011 5:33 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Kendall Litedinner
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:33 PM
October 19, 2011 5:33 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Ed Zachary
October 19, 2011 5:33 PM - Arkady
Wanda Watt.
October 19, 2011 5:34 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Matt Sterbat
October 19, 2011 5:34 PM - Arkady
Dave N. Ing.
October 19, 2011 5:34 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Minnie vanDriver
October 19, 2011 5:34 PM - More4Less
rf, come to think of it, I might've ordered from that chinese / mex place - ie there's a place around that area that wife likes to order the Mex stuff
October 19, 2011 5:35 PM - Biff Champion
Jenny Talia
Ima Mann
October 19, 2011 5:35 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Nick Nack

Edited at October 19, 2011 5:35 PM
October 19, 2011 5:35 PM - More4Less
what is this name thingie now? it's not a pun or a palindrome or whateve
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:35 PM
October 19, 2011 5:35 PM - Arkady
Noam Mann.
October 19, 2011 5:36 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ha!
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:36 PM
October 19, 2011 5:36 PM - Biff Champion
Ivana Humpalot
October 19, 2011 5:36 PM - Bedstuymaven
Jim Shorts
October 19, 2011 5:36 PM - Biff Champion
Eileen Dover
October 19, 2011 5:37 PM - Biff Champion
Heidi Specker
October 19, 2011 5:37 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
even worse...
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:37 PM
October 19, 2011 5:37 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Jim Shoe!
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:37 PM
October 19, 2011 5:38 PM - Biff Champion
Ginger Snaps
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:38 PM
October 19, 2011 5:38 PM - Arkady
Hal Long.
October 19, 2011 5:38 PM - Biff Champion
DeManda Refund
October 19, 2011 5:38 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
And the worst!
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:38 PM
October 19, 2011 5:39 PM - Bedstuymaven
Bess Mann
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:39 PM
October 19, 2011 5:40 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Harden Long
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:40 PM
October 19, 2011 5:40 PM - Arkady
Newt Reno.
October 19, 2011 5:40 PM - Biff Champion
Miss Understood

(and the other 500 Miss names we could come up with)
October 19, 2011 5:41 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Harry Beavers
October 19, 2011 5:41 PM - Bedstuymaven
Brandi Wein
October 19, 2011 5:41 PM - Arkady
Owen Moore
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:41 PM
October 19, 2011 5:41 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Al Beback
October 19, 2011 5:42 PM - Bedstuymaven
Cardinal Redd
October 19, 2011 5:42 PM - Bedstuymaven
Cardinal Byrd
October 19, 2011 5:42 PM - Biff Champion
Aurora Whorealis
October 19, 2011 5:42 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Anita Colbier
October 19, 2011 5:43 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Dennis L. Bow
October 19, 2011 5:43 PM - Biff Champion
Condoleeza Ricequeen
October 19, 2011 5:44 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Holden D'mayo
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:44 PM
October 19, 2011 5:44 PM - Arkady
Skip Purdey
October 19, 2011 5:44 PM - Biff Champion
Snappy, you're just throwing out any funny names, including those for men!

They need to be female names with a sexual connotation please!!
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:44 PM
October 19, 2011 5:44 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Izzie Yupyet
October 19, 2011 5:45 PM - Arkady
Holden Bach.
October 19, 2011 5:45 PM - Bedstuymaven
Art Seller
October 19, 2011 5:45 PM - Biff Champion
Snappy is disqualified.

It's a Drag Queen DQ!!
October 19, 2011 5:45 PM - Biff Champion
Jennifer Maniston
October 19, 2011 5:46 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Awww, dang Biffy! Fine...I've got one female name left that I didn't wanna post, but you asked for it....

Pah C. Hole

::running for cover::
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:46 PM
October 19, 2011 5:46 PM - Biff Champion
Lucille Balls
October 19, 2011 5:46 PM - Biff Champion
Norma-Lee Drunk
October 19, 2011 5:47 PM - Bedstuymaven
They need to be female names with a sexual connotation please!!

Who Said
October 19, 2011 5:48 PM - Biff Champion
Mama Snappy: How was your day, dear?

Snappy: Not that great. I got pissed off in a courthouse in Queens and disqualified from a Drag Queen namefest.
October 19, 2011 5:49 PM - Biff Champion
"They need to be female names with a sexual connotation please!!

Who Said"

Do you think a drag queen named Art Seller would be successful?

October 19, 2011 5:49 PM - Biff Champion
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:-)
October 19, 2011 5:50 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ROFL! She'd redouble her prayer efforts on my behalf!
October 19, 2011 5:51 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Ok...I gotta finish some stuff up. Nite folks!
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:51 PM
October 19, 2011 5:51 PM - Arkady
Fela Cho.
October 19, 2011 5:53 PM - Bedstuymaven
good night snappy
October 19, 2011 5:56 PM - Legion
Mike Hunt
October 19, 2011 5:58 PM - Deleted
miss carriage
October 19, 2011 5:59 PM - Legion
Suk Itt
Edited at October 19, 2011 5:59 PM
October 19, 2011 5:59 PM - Legion
Bo Breaker
October 19, 2011 6:00 PM - Legion
Ni Zrak
October 19, 2011 6:06 PM - Bedstuymaven
Jay Walker
October 19, 2011 6:10 PM - Bedstuymaven
June Dey
April Dey
Autumn Dey
Edited at October 19, 2011 6:10 PM
October 19, 2011 6:11 PM - Bedstuymaven
Sheila Blige
October 19, 2011 6:12 PM - Bedstuymaven
Sandy Shore
October 19, 2011 6:46 PM - petebklyn
seymour herr
October 19, 2011 6:58 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"June Dey
April Dey
Autumn Dey"

I went to elementary school with a girl whose full name was April May August.
October 19, 2011 7:01 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"You need to buy your ticket in an area where there is a high concentration of meth labs, trailers or some god forsaken town where the only employer is a cheese factory."

My retired half-sister lives mere miles from a town like that in TN. "meth labs, trailers or some god forsaken town where the only employer is a cheese factory." I can email her to buy us some tix! I'm serious. She took us to the cheese factory, you can tour it. It was kind of interesting. But the town around it is depressed/ing as hell. People living in in actual tin roof shacks. Not pretty.
October 19, 2011 7:02 PM - lechacal
I am deeply disappointed that DIBS was unable to recognize me. Mine is the greatest mind in the history of the Supreme Court. DIBS, you must be a 99% type.
October 19, 2011 7:05 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Scalia. I rue the day that man was appointed.
Edited at October 19, 2011 7:05 PM
October 19, 2011 7:07 PM - Bedstuymaven
Cobble - When you win, please remember me.
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October 19, 2011 7:12 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
If I win BIG, we cat ladies will be having a BIG party, and checks will be tossed in the air like confetti, and we'll have a month long vacation in Jamaica. NO LIE.
October 19, 2011 7:18 PM - bxgrl
So sad they shot all those animals that were on the loose in Ohio. You's think they would have called in wild animal experts.
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October 19, 2011 7:22 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
We could take over Jake's in Treasure Beach. They have a spa, restaurant and cafe next door. We could rent a large home or two in Whitehouse, and/or go up to the Blue Mountains. MM likes it there. Fish dinners in Little Ochi. Touring the gardens of Mandeville.

Ah, the mind wanders...then there are the healing waters...quarries with slightly radioactive springs...I loved seeing the grannies being wheeled in to 'take the waters'.
October 19, 2011 7:23 PM - lechacal
Hey Benson - Italian high five!
October 19, 2011 7:25 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Shopping trip, anyone?
October 19, 2011 7:26 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"You's think they would have called in wild animal experts."

Jack Hanna weighed in. I was surprised they killed them vs. sedating them. He seemed to say that would be difficult. Weird.
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October 19, 2011 7:26 PM - Bedstuymaven
Cobble - Works for me. Blue Mountains are great.
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October 19, 2011 7:27 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Shopping trip, anyone?"

Snort! Call DIBS, I bet he's up for that anytime! : P
October 19, 2011 7:28 PM - lechacal
I met Scalia last year at the Harvard Club. The whole thing was very 1 percent, if you know what I mean.
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October 19, 2011 7:32 PM - lechacal
If cobble keeps ignoring me I'll keep turning up the volume. It goes all the way to 11.
October 19, 2011 7:32 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Blue Mountains are great."

I've never been up there. I've read about it and heard about it from MM. It's on my list of places to visit there, along with a few other spots. Friends of mine growing up went often. The father was from there. They used to literally disappear to Jamaica for one or two months every winter.
October 19, 2011 7:33 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
lech, baby, How that hell are you? I've missed you so. My days are incomplete without you. : P
October 19, 2011 7:36 PM - lechacal
Yes dear, I know they are. I'd miss me too. How's the new place?
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October 19, 2011 7:37 PM - lechacal
The difference between me and benson is you picture me smirking when I write.
October 19, 2011 7:41 PM - lechacal
Gotta go.... But being serious for a split second I hope the move has treated you and bh well. Warm wishes, fair winds and following seas. L.
October 19, 2011 7:42 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
The new place is great. It's literally 1/3 bigger than the old place for 1/3 less rent. Room to breathe. No deck, but such is life. We've unpacked but we're still sorting where things go and making minor moves with furniture. Neighbors are so great, friendly, welcoming. It feels a bit like we moved to a suburb, but the travel time, oddly, isn't all that different from traveling on the F from Cobble Hill. It was a good decision.

And yes, I picture you smirking. I picture him with an evil Simon Legree squint, while he twirls his moustche.
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October 19, 2011 7:51 PM - dibs
Cobble, initially they killed a few that were putting people's lives at risk and then, I believe as quickly as they could, they got people in with tranquilizer guns. I think they killed a lot of the animals though.
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October 19, 2011 7:56 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
DIBS, I'm glad if they finally got to tranquilizing them. I understand that they had to do what they had to do if people were involved. Sad, but that's life.
October 19, 2011 8:00 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
The thing I'm curious about is that I read that this guy had a private preserve and he has been accused of mismanaging the care of the animals many many times over the past year — all info from a quick read — not sure what's true or not at this point. How does this happen? Are regulations such that it's so difficult to just shut a guy like this down?
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October 19, 2011 8:04 PM - DeadCatBounce
"I understand that they had to do what they had to do"
No Republican?
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October 19, 2011 8:05 PM - Bedstuymaven
Cobble. I am thinking shutting him down is not that easy. The municipality/state would have to take over. It is not like some one with two many cats or dog which are easily placed in shelters or adopted. The would either have to take over the running of the reserve or find a zoo to take them.
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October 19, 2011 8:08 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
17 lions killed. Horrible. I'm not sure the planet has 17 lions to lose.

" Estimates of the African lion population range between 16,500 and 47,000 living in the wild in 2002–2004,[133][134] down from early 1990s estimates that ranged as high as 100,000 and perhaps 400,000 in 1950." — From Wikipedia

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/20/us/police-kill-dozens-of-animals-freed-from-ohio-preserve.html
October 19, 2011 8:10 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"The would either have to take over the running of the reserve or find a zoo to take them."

Yes, I'm guessing you're correct. I'm sure it's a morass of paperwork. Looks like Jack Hanna/Columbus Zoo is taking at least some of the animals.
October 19, 2011 8:10 PM - petebklyn
for all the talk of over-regulation and over-stepping of gov't I've yet to see real life evidence. Just whining from those who haven't succeeded. They should blame themselves instead of gov't. I am changing my avatar to 9-9-9-Cain
October 19, 2011 8:12 PM - DeadCatBounce
How would one go about buying a lion?
I am imagining a Craigslist classified ad.
October 19, 2011 8:12 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Is Pete drinking again? Do I have to page lesbiman...again? : )
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October 19, 2011 8:15 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
This building is so great. Two of the cutest little girls, maybe 10 and 6 just came to the door last night selling candies to raise money for their public school nearby. They just came back to tell us when they would be delivered. Adorable. How can you resist?
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October 19, 2011 8:18 PM - Bedstuymaven
Cobble - If Girl Scouts come by. Please order 2 boxes of lemon cookies for me.
October 19, 2011 8:20 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
BSM, I was kind of hoping they were doing the GS thing! Loves me some of those chocolate mint cookies and the coconut caramel thingys. I have no idea what BH ordered from them, he shooed me away! But apparently, they'll be delivered around Halloween.
October 19, 2011 8:23 PM - Bedstuymaven
Please let BH know there will be no shooing when the Girl Scouts stop by.
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October 19, 2011 8:23 PM - Deleted
"I picture him with an evil Simon Legree squint, while he twirls his moustche."

Admit it. You love me.
October 19, 2011 8:25 PM - Deleted
Hi five, Lech.

Please give Antonin my best regards, and tell him I'll see him at the next meeting of the "Jesuit-taught scholars plotting to take over the world" meeting.
October 19, 2011 8:26 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
He just walked in, I've properly informed him - there will be no shooing! : P

benson, I love having a root canal more than I love you.
October 19, 2011 8:27 PM - Deleted
Cobble;

Aha! So you do admit you love me. Now we're just down to arguing about degree.
October 19, 2011 8:33 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Dream on, benson.
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October 19, 2011 8:36 PM - bxgrl
The news said 48 out of the 50 that were let loose were killed. They also killed tigers too- and those we really can't afford to lose.
October 19, 2011 8:42 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oh g*d, I can't even tell BH about the tigers. He'll be heartbroken. He loves tigers.
October 19, 2011 9:12 PM - Arkady
A woman to whom I donated cat stuff had been jailed for cat abuse but still runs a shelter - she is carefully monitored, evidently, to be sure her reach does not exceed her grasp this time.
October 19, 2011 9:22 PM - Donatella
Wow, what a tragedy with those animals. Crazy. This wasn't a zoo; this was a private citizen who was allowed to own these animals. So the guy has a meltdown and then gets to terrorize a small town, which results in the death of all these exotic animals. What is wrong with this picture? A tragedy.
October 19, 2011 9:29 PM - Deleted
I'm wondering if I should change my avatar. I was thinking of this graphic. What do you think?
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October 19, 2011 9:37 PM - Legion
That's bullshit that they couldn't just tranquilize those tigers and lions.
They closed down the whole area anyway.
Are they telling us they couldn't tell everyone to stay inside while they tranquilized the poor animals and collect them one by one?

That's a real sore point with me,
man's poor stewardship of Earth's creatures.

That was a wrong call no matter what they say.
October 19, 2011 9:44 PM - Legion
There were no other options than to blow away all these creatures?
Really?
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October 19, 2011 9:46 PM - sixyearsandcounting
benson, looks too much like 7%. btw I'm reading a book I think you'd like - Killing for Coal, by Thomas Andrews. Engineering, migration, conquest of nature, unions, corporations, lots of Italians too. Very little academic mumbo-jumbo.
October 19, 2011 9:56 PM - Donatella
Legion, I think that the responsibility was letting this private citizen have these dangerous animals in the first place. What happened is that they were let out at dusk, just as it was getting dark. Their concern was the people in the town, that they needed to make sure that they got the animals before it got dark when they could get lost, travel, maul people. It would have shut down the entire environs and could have caused a lot of human carnage. This town is right outside of Columbus. It WAS a tragedy but public safety was their priority as it should have been and as it should have been from the start. They should never have given a private citizen that much power/responsibility. The guy was unstable and had the power to do all that destruction.
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October 19, 2011 10:02 PM - Deleted
Six Years;

Thanks! Will put it on the list. I'm planning to do some reading on the energy industry in the coming months. Next on my list is "The Prize" by Daniel Yergin which goes through the history of the oil industry.
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October 19, 2011 10:05 PM - Legion
donatella,
For sure, the authorities should have shut this guy down as soon as he got a certain number of violations or past a reasonable number of animals.
Perhaps it will set a precedent for municipalities.
That being said, I think that we tend to take "public safety" to an absurd extreme sometimes.
This was a very unique situation and extraordinary measure should have been implemented.

Look, they made half of New York evacuate for wind storm just a month ago. They inconvenience a million people in NYC when the President comes to town.
The police in this town could have set up a perimeter with the state police and every expert in Ohio on hand to coral these creatures over night.
It's that important.

Our grandchildren my not know what a real Tiger is.
October 19, 2011 10:14 PM - sixyearsandcounting
benson, yergin's book is a great read with a truly global perspective. i have an older edition - not sure if he's brought it up to date to account for new sources of oil like those in west africa, etc.
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October 19, 2011 10:21 PM - Legion
You know what it is donatella,
I could just see the local police dept. sitting around late that evening talking with the
elected officials and the lawyers telling them that the most efficient way of cleaning this mess up
was to dispose of them.

I can't believe they actually consulted zoologists or trained veterinarians who signed off on this.

It's just a sad outcome and we can only hope it leads to better planning in the future.


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October 19, 2011 10:33 PM - Arkady
I couldn't agree w/ you more, Legion.
October 19, 2011 11:01 PM - Donatella
It was a bad situation Legion. I agree that we can only hope that it leads to better planning.

Legion, the Prize is a kind of classic, but may be dated. It was written after the 1st Gulf war. Yergin is the head of CERA, Cambridge Energy Research Associates. He tries to predict prices at which he is not very good, but he is the consummate expert on the structure, policy and politics of the energy industry
October 19, 2011 11:01 PM - Donatella
I meant to say, Benson....re Prize.
October 19, 2011 11:31 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Lechecal, DIBS, Donatella, Benson, Legion: http://www.occupyoccupywallstreet.org/