Friday Open Thread
September 9, 2011 7:01 AM - BoerumHillScott

362 comments
September 9, 2011 8:21 AM - denton
dibs' listing on that other site looking very nice today.
http://marketplace.brownstoner.com/fsbo/1314034452-311-stuyvesant-ave-bedford-stuyvesant


Edited at September 9, 2011 8:21 AM
#1
September 9, 2011 8:33 AM - dibs
He's a classy guy.
Edited at September 9, 2011 8:33 AM
#2
September 9, 2011 8:35 AM - dibs
Denton's pics turned out great!!!
#3
September 9, 2011 8:36 AM - BoerumHillScott
That is one of the better real estate ads I have ever seen.
#4
September 9, 2011 8:38 AM - Biff Champion
Does the buyer get a one year supply of Lysol?

DIBS, are you buying another place in BK?
Edited at September 9, 2011 8:38 AM
#5
September 9, 2011 8:39 AM - jessibaby
The ad looks great. Makes sense given the house and the photographer. Good luck!!
#6
September 9, 2011 8:41 AM - cobblehiller
Looks really great, DIBS and denton, good work, guys!

The bathroom is even nicer than the photo, but impossible to capture in one shot because it's HUGE!
#7
September 9, 2011 8:41 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Seller of that stuy heights house sounds like a know it all. Probably going to scare off buyers :)
#8
September 9, 2011 8:43 AM - dibs
No, Biff...most likely will retire. Might stay another year or so and rent if it sells fast.
Edited at September 9, 2011 8:43 AM
#9
September 9, 2011 8:45 AM - jessibaby
Dave, ur job seems like easy money and you're still young. Why retire?
#10
September 9, 2011 8:47 AM - cobblehiller
"Why retire?"

Isn't it obvious? He wants more free time to post here! ; )
#11
September 9, 2011 8:48 AM - dibs
LOL, I'd probably post less if I was retired.
#12
September 9, 2011 8:49 AM - jessibaby
Or maybe he wants more time to go swimming at the Y. Pete seems to like that!
#13
September 9, 2011 8:49 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: In all seriousness - love the house and yard, not into the blue walks or any of the furniture.

Can we get a widget thingy for Dave's house! !!!
#14
September 9, 2011 8:51 AM - dibs
Randi, the wall color can be changed. The furniture is most likely too classy for you. Rattan wouldn't look good there!!!!
#15
September 9, 2011 8:51 AM - jessibaby
Randi, unfortunately it is not possible to have walls repainted nor have furniture removed.
#16
September 9, 2011 8:53 AM - jessibaby
Not all rattan is bad! And certainly caned stuff rules.
Edited at September 9, 2011 8:53 AM
#17
September 9, 2011 8:54 AM - Donatella
Beautiful, Dave. Denton, great pictures. I think you will do very well.
#18
September 9, 2011 8:55 AM - dibs
jessi, have you ever been caned???? Did you enjoy it??? In Singapore???
Edited at September 9, 2011 8:55 AM
#19
September 9, 2011 8:56 AM - denton
the What dropped by the pbase site where the photos are and left a couple of pithy comments. I had to disable commenting.
#20
September 9, 2011 8:56 AM - jessibaby
Be on alert for a phony offer from The What.
#21
September 9, 2011 8:56 AM - denton
nor Ikea.... lol.
#22
September 9, 2011 8:56 AM - jessibaby
Whoa, jinx D.

Edited at September 9, 2011 8:56 AM
#23
September 9, 2011 8:58 AM - jessibaby
No Dave, never been caned nor canned.
Edited at September 9, 2011 8:57 AM
#24
September 9, 2011 9:05 AM - dibs
I'm sure he's lurking now.
#25
September 9, 2011 9:10 AM - dibs
Krugman needs to think a bit before he speaks. There seems to be a disconnect between his math and his choice of words,,,

“There is a pretty good chance of an actual stall which would lead the global economy to slide backward,” he said in an interview in Yaroslav, central Russia, yesterday, describing the risk of a recession as “quite high, maybe 50 percent.”
Krugman, who last month said the risk of a global decline may be “a bit higher” than one-in-three"

here's the full story for what it's worth:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-09/risk-of-worldwide-recession-has-increased-to-50-krugman-says.html
Edited at September 9, 2011 9:10 AM
#26
September 9, 2011 9:14 AM - dibs
I think we should ban all flights from Pakistan for the next few days.
Edited at September 9, 2011 9:14 AM
#27
September 9, 2011 9:15 AM - jessibaby
Paul krugman was awesome in Get Him to the Greek. Though not the best role for someone who wants to be taken seriously.
#28
September 9, 2011 9:15 AM - denton
You can't expect growth with government budgets in the entire western world being slashed. Bad shit is coming.
Edited at September 9, 2011 9:15 AM
#29
September 9, 2011 9:19 AM - jessibaby
Why can't all of the global economies get together and say, "let's create some money to stimulate the global economy" in a few years, we all forgive each others debt. Money aint real, let's take advantage of that. We're being beaten by a phantom.
#30
September 9, 2011 9:25 AM - Deleted
phantom
#31
September 9, 2011 9:27 AM - dibs
I hate all of Andrew Lloyd Weber's recent stuff. They all sound alike.
#32
September 9, 2011 9:28 AM - dibs
"God Bless America" being sung before the open of the NYSE.
Edited at September 9, 2011 9:28 AM
#33
September 9, 2011 9:36 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
you should have painted some of those walls before you took pics. baby blue / robin's egg blue / all shades of that blue and green are a huge turn off for like 75% of astrological signs.

*rob*

#34
September 9, 2011 9:37 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
LMFAO just read the posts, me and randi are in agreeance about the walls. hideous, awful. paint that shit! your broker is a moron for letting that slide

*rob*

Edited at September 9, 2011 9:37 AM
#35
September 9, 2011 9:38 AM - dibs
rob, I'm a scorpio. Do you think I give a shit????
Edited at September 9, 2011 9:38 AM
#36
September 9, 2011 9:40 AM - lechacal
Hello hue-mons. I live.
#37
September 9, 2011 9:40 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
somehow last night i was privy to having to hear the presidents speech. blah blah blah blah blah blah clap clap clap blah clap blah clap blah blah blah clap clap. ugh. we're so screwed. and even if he doesnt get re-elected (which i really hope he does or else there's gonna be mad civil unrest) we're still screwed. my grandmother called me last night and told me i sound angry and in a bad mood i was like yep, youre totally right life sucks. mine sucks and i told her that her life sucks even more.

*rob*

Edited at September 9, 2011 9:40 AM
#38
September 9, 2011 9:41 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
but at least she doesnt have much time left on this disgusting planet.

*rob*

#39
September 9, 2011 9:43 AM - dibs
Good morning, lech. How's things???

Edited at September 9, 2011 9:43 AM
#40
September 9, 2011 9:43 AM - jessibaby
"mine sucks and i told her that her life sucks even more."

called my mom on my birthday the other day - thought I should speak with the women who birthed me. She couldnt stop shifting the topic to something depressing/about how broke she is. I told her it was my birthday and asked her to stop it for just one day.

HIYA, JACKAL!
Edited at September 9, 2011 9:43 AM
#41
September 9, 2011 9:45 AM - dibs
but at least she doesnt have much time left on this disgusting planet.

*rob*

You need to get laid.
#42
September 9, 2011 9:46 AM - Donatella
Thank God the sun is out. The rain was getting to me. Rain tomorrow and Sunday but next week, much better weather. *rob* I am sure Dave is now tearing his hair out, worrying about the blue paint. The house is gorgeous. The backyard looks great too, Dave. I guess all the rain helped make it looks so lush. Gorgeous.
#43
September 9, 2011 9:48 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
You need to get laid.

typical blah human response to all of life's problems. sorry, but getting laid means mo problems.

*rob*

#44
September 9, 2011 9:50 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
.


*rob*



#45
September 9, 2011 9:51 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
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#46
September 9, 2011 9:51 AM - Donatella
Hey Lech. How's life?

Happy Birthday jessi (belatedly?)
#47
September 9, 2011 9:53 AM - jessibaby
Thanks, Dona. Yeah, it was earlier this week.

Is it weird that I don't want to give money to mom? I feel like I didnt ask to be put on this earth so she had a responsibility to pay for me as a child, but I don't need to support her now.
Edited at September 9, 2011 9:53 AM
#48
September 9, 2011 9:57 AM - denton
to all of y'all complaining about the color of the walls, remember you are sitting in an office with a cheapass office Dell LCD monitor, which are highly unlikely to be profiled and calibrated for accurate color. So it's gonna look 'hotter' and more saturated than it actually is.
Edited at September 9, 2011 9:57 AM
#49
September 9, 2011 9:57 AM - Slopefarm
Hi, jackal!! (quickly composing haiku on suburban beer belly) Ouch! (Mrs. slopey just kicked me for a bit of hypocrisy on my snark.)

dibs and denton, the listing and photos look great. Good luck with the open house.





Edited at September 9, 2011 9:57 AM
#50
September 9, 2011 10:00 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
to all of y'all complaining about the color of the walls, remember you are sitting in an office with a cheapass office Dell LCD monitor,

LMFAO denton hahahahahhaa. so true, SO true as i stare at my dell monitor. oh wait, it's a dell PC but an acer monitor! even more ghettoer

*rob*

#51
September 9, 2011 10:01 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
it's still an ugly ass color tho. it's the color of that disgusting shit that babies are slimed in when they are thrusted out of a vagina at birth!!!! placenta blue?

*rob*

Edited at September 9, 2011 10:01 AM
#52
September 9, 2011 10:02 AM - jessibaby
if only the people at Valspar are reading this right now.
#53
September 9, 2011 10:03 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
i really shouldnt be judging peoples' wall colors

*rob*

#54
September 9, 2011 10:04 AM - denton
yeah rob, isn't that a purple wall in the photo?
#55
September 9, 2011 10:05 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
lol jessi, or Pantone

*rob*

#56
September 9, 2011 10:06 AM - MontroseMorris
Who cares about the color of the walls? That always kills me on shows like "House Hunters". People go into a house and reject it because they don't like the color of the walls. Ever hear of paint? It's the easiest repair/improvement you can make.

Dave, your listing looks great. People should use it as a template for future sales. Good luck. Saraghina is going to miss you when you leave.
Edited at September 9, 2011 10:06 AM
#57
September 9, 2011 10:07 AM - Slopefarm
I guess it would be too easy to respond to rob by commenting on the wall color in his avatar photo. But teh discussion does take me back to 2006-07 brownstoner when peopel would really comment on HOTD that a house was overpriced due to wall color. There really are people out there who expect the entire world to conform to their taste and think they shouldn't have to do anything to a house once they buy it.

Still, someone send up a flare if dibs is HOTD.
#58
September 9, 2011 10:08 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
THANK YOU BABY JEEEBUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! I WAS SUPPOSED TO COME INTO THE OFFICE TOMORROW MORNING AT 8AM (THUS MY SOUR MOOD) BECAUSE THE AC SYSTEM IS BEING REPLACED AND THEY CALLED AND ASKED AND SAID IF THEY CAN COME IN TODAY INSTEAD!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEH! NOW IM IN A BETTER MOOD!!!!

*rob*

#59
September 9, 2011 10:09 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Who cares about the color of the walls? That always kills me on shows like "House Hunters". People go into a house and reject it because they don't like the color of the walls. Ever hear of paint? It's the easiest repair/improvement you can make.

the color of walls will evoke many people who are impulse shoppers.... and if youre shopping for an uber expensive house in bed stuy the only people youre gonna FIND are impulse shoppers. so yeah, the color of the walls DOES matter.


*rob*

#60
September 9, 2011 10:09 AM - minard lafever
I see the stock market is reacting in its usual upbeat manner after a major speech by president Obama. The financial markets seem to be allergic to the guy.

#61
September 9, 2011 10:09 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
dismiss what i believe if you want, i dont give a crap.

*rob*

#62
September 9, 2011 10:10 AM - Slopefarm
Denton's pics remind me -- denton, did you ever follow the 80s indie cartoon strip "Julius Knipl, Real Estate Photographer"? It ran in some of the free weeklies back then.
#63
September 9, 2011 10:12 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
good morning folks and happy belated birthday, jessi :-)

i'm streaming classis rock music on pandora to keep me awake. the same ad keeps popping up on the right of the pandora music player, offering me a brazilian wax for $18. i wonder if pandora is trying to tell me something.
Edited at September 9, 2011 10:12 AM
#64
September 9, 2011 10:12 AM - Slopefarm
Impulse buyers? LOLx3. Yeah, I wasn't thinking of plopping down nearly a mil on a house in Bed-Stuy but I just happened by this open house the other day by complete chance and was about to write a check, except those damn blue walls made me walk away.
Edited at September 9, 2011 10:12 AM
#65
September 9, 2011 10:13 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
slopefarm, you LOL x 3, but there are idiots out there like that.

*rob*

#66
September 9, 2011 10:14 AM - jessibaby
Hmmm...but if wall color is somewhat analogous to staging (something all seem to agree is necessary to sell a property) why aren't Rob and Randi somewhat onto something....
Edited at September 9, 2011 10:14 AM
#67
September 9, 2011 10:14 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
and it's not a CONSCIOUS thing, dont be a moron, it's a subconscious thing when it comes to wall color. more people are going to be turned off by that color than turned on. it has nothing to do with what color they want to eventually paint the house.

*rob*

#68
September 9, 2011 10:16 AM - Deleted
I caught the very, very tail end of the President's speech. I thought he made a big mistake right after its conclusion (or at least, from what I saw on CSPAN). At the conclusion of the speech he turned to shake Biden's hand, and chatted with him for about 1/2 minute. He then walked off the podium without shaking Boehner's hand. Bad move, especially if you're appealing to a spirit of bipartisanship.
#69
September 9, 2011 10:16 AM - minard lafever
Dave's house looks very nice, I said so yesterday. The price seems a tad ambitious for the place and time, but what the hell right?
Is there anything new today? People don't want to discuss the president's speech last night?

#70
September 9, 2011 10:17 AM - minard lafever
Is there some kind of ban-lite for Rob this morning? he is being particularly pathetic and annoying.

#71
September 9, 2011 10:22 AM - Slopefarm
Rob, your "idiots" are not buying the house.
Personally, that color isn't my choice but it does show off the trim and provides a subliminal suggestion of Versailles, leading prospective buyers to perceive the space as palatial. Don't change a thing, dave.
#72
September 9, 2011 10:22 AM - BoerumHillScott
I find people complaining about other people's postings pathetic and annoying.
If you don't like it, don't read it.
Edited at September 9, 2011 10:22 AM
#73
September 9, 2011 10:24 AM - jessibaby
Yeah, Minard, if anything, make your post a bit more avuncular.
#74
September 9, 2011 10:24 AM - BoerumHillScott
I am totally unimpressed with Obama's plan.

The majority of it all centers around one-time putting money in people's pockets and not the long-term infrastructure and policy changes that actually create jobs.
#75
September 9, 2011 10:28 AM - GortFromPlanetX
"The price seems a tad ambitious"

Minard my reaction was just the opposite, people are looking to pay that price just for an apartment.
Here you get an ENTIRE brownstone renovated, backyard, tenant and the tax is only 1,200 WOW!!!!!!

Great house DIBs and beautiful pics Denton!!!
#76
September 9, 2011 10:30 AM - Donatella
Jessi, I've got to leave here soo but wanted to say something about your mother. That's really tough. Being a parent to a parent is not a happy thing. even when they are old and they really need your help. It is uncomfortable initially for the kid and the parents have to relax a little to accept help. But you are young and I guess your mother is not elderly -- And I thought that you were struggling with your student loans. Hey, we all have our own responsibilities. I would be supportive to her but you are getting your own life on track.
#77
September 9, 2011 10:31 AM - BoerumHillScott
I have loaned money to my mother before, but she is very supportive of me in an many ways, and we have a close relationship.

#78
September 9, 2011 10:33 AM - MontroseMorris
Please. Why should Obama shake Boehner's hand? So he can bite it? Figuratively and metaphorically?

Obama has bent himself into a pretzel and lost a lot of support by trying so hard to be bi-partisan, and all he's gotten for it are accusations that he's NOT bi-partisan, or just up and dissed by the Republicans, who spared no time tearing the speech down with little solutions in return.
#79
September 9, 2011 10:34 AM - denton
I think children do have an obligation to help their parents if they are in the position to do so AND if said parents did a good job when raising the children. Fortunately that leaves me off the hook, lol.
#80
September 9, 2011 10:34 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
provides a subliminal suggestion of Versailles, leading prospective buyers to perceive the space as palatial.

people who want versailles aint moving to bed stuy (lol that rhymes)

*rob*

Edited at September 9, 2011 10:34 AM
#81
September 9, 2011 10:34 AM - jessibaby
Thanks, Dona and Scott for your thoughts. I still do have a high student loan burden. Also, if my mom hadn’t left my dad for no good reason, he’d still be supporting her instead of my not as generous stepfather. I can’t help but be aware of that fact.
Edited at September 9, 2011 10:34 AM
#82
September 9, 2011 10:36 AM - Donatella
Re Dave's price, there have been some sales which were surprising in BedSty. Jerry Minsky sold something 1m+ not too long ago. Dave's place is in really good shape. One of the interesting things in pricing real estate is that people do not seem to price the big chuck of ones OWN LIFE, time and energy that goes into making one of these old places nice. It is a lot of work. This place a person can just walk into and it is beautiful. Nothing to do. Paint?? That is a piece of cake. The choice is between a coop or condo somewhere else which would have a nice maintenance tag.
#83
September 9, 2011 10:36 AM - minard lafever
Scott what the hell is the matter with you? You always jump on my posts and say something snide. Go to hell.

#84
September 9, 2011 10:38 AM - Deleted
Montrose;
Being the President is part theater. We can debate whether or not the Republicans have been cooperative, but that is beside the point. As President, it behooves Obama to rise above pettiness, for his benefit.
Edited at September 9, 2011 10:37 AM
#85
September 9, 2011 10:38 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Scott, can we get a widget to vote on dave's house ?!
#86
September 9, 2011 10:39 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
::looks left::
::looks right::

is a fight breaking out? i'll check back in later. smile everyone...it's friday dammit!
#87
September 9, 2011 10:39 AM - MontroseMorris
Bed Stuy has some of the best architecture in Brooklyn. It's also a great place to live. I don't think Dave will be waiting long for would be buyers to start calling.
#88
September 9, 2011 10:41 AM - MontroseMorris
One could same the same about Republicans, Benson. Shaking Beohner's hand is a non-issue.
#89
September 9, 2011 10:41 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Dave I'd like to make an offer- $805,000 CASH!
Edited at September 9, 2011 10:41 AM
#90
September 9, 2011 10:41 AM - BoerumHillScott
A pricing widget would be fun if I had the time to write one.
#91
September 9, 2011 10:42 AM - Donatella
I agree, MM. I think he can get a good price too.
#92
September 9, 2011 10:43 AM - BoerumHillScott
Dave's place seems well priced and looks to be in amazing condition.

I'm not a fan of the colors, but I would just reduce my offer by $1000 for repainting.
#93
September 9, 2011 10:43 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Bed Stuy has some of the best architecture in Brooklyn. It's also a great place to live.

ill give you the architecture part. but it's an awful place to live relative to HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS! it shouldnt be as expensive as it is.

*rob*

#94
September 9, 2011 10:47 AM - Deleted
"but it's an awful place to live relative to HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS! it shouldnt be as expensive as it is."

same for all of nyc. it's a relative to each other.
#95
September 9, 2011 10:47 AM - MontroseMorris
Neither should Park Slope, rob. Bed Stuy is still a bargain. How is it supposed to be cheaper?
#96
September 9, 2011 10:48 AM - Deleted
i'd rather live on dave's block than yours rob, troof
Edited at September 9, 2011 10:48 AM
#97
September 9, 2011 10:50 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
bed stuy is NOT a bargain. it's a rip-off. it's one of those neighborhoods that feed off marketing and hype. there's more bang for your buck in park slope than there is in bed-stuy, that's all im saying. and yes nyc in general is WAY overpriced for what it is... but when you compare neighborhood to neighborhood, some neighborhoods are just downright overpriced. bedstuy is one of them.



*rob*

Edited at September 9, 2011 10:50 AM
#98
September 9, 2011 10:50 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
oh, before i disappear fully, i have a fun brooklyn fact for you all. i get these as a part of a weekly email from a broker at brooklyn properties. i really liked this week's fact because i had wondered about this before:
---------
"Why is First Street in the middle of Park Slope. The answer lies in history. This is the path of the historic Old Port Road, that connected the Village of Flatbush with the Village of Brooklyn. It was the road where the advancing British soldiers marched in the Battle of Brooklyn, for their attack at the Old Stone House. It was also known as Shunpike Road, as it was used by cheapskates to avoid the toll at the Flatbush Turnpike. "
Edited at September 9, 2011 10:50 AM
#99
September 9, 2011 10:51 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
i'd rather live on dave's block than yours rob, troof

eff off, is that supposed to be some kind of insult?

*rob*

September 9, 2011 10:51 AM - Deleted
Rob's place is close to mine. Please take that into consideration when discussing price.
September 9, 2011 10:51 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
and id rather live on dave's block than my block too... IF THE PRICE DIFFERENTIAL MADE ANY F'ING SENSE, BUT IT DOESNT!

THAT'S MY POINT!

*ROB*

September 9, 2011 10:52 AM - GortFromPlanetX
IT IS ONLY $1,200 FOR THE REAL ESTATE TAX THAT IS AMAZING IN NYC!!!!!

Is that correct???
September 9, 2011 10:52 AM - Deleted
uhh - dave's block is cheaper. daves house on your block would be 2 million rob. it's less than half off and is probably a mile away.
September 9, 2011 10:52 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
QUOTE:
Why is First Street in the middle of Park Slope.

i always thought it was the Universe's way of making things easy for me to find my way home.

*rob*

Edited at September 9, 2011 10:52 AM
September 9, 2011 10:53 AM - Deleted
and the rent of dave's garden rental is cheaper than what you're paying for your share.
September 9, 2011 10:54 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
IT IS ONLY $1,200 FOR THE REAL ESTATE TAX THAT IS AMAZING IN NYC!!!!!

Is that correct???

yep. that shit needs to change stat. those low taxes were just a panderance... but now that so many "rich" people are buying brownstones and shit, those taxes need to go up, stat.

*rob*

Edited at September 9, 2011 10:54 AM
September 9, 2011 10:54 AM - Legion
Great looking home dibs
and Denton's photos are excellent.

I like the choice of a flat black for the entry door, as opposed to the gloss.
I think the bedroom wall color is just right,
it looks familiar even, is that Benjamin Moore-Carrington Beige?
September 9, 2011 10:55 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
and the rent of dave's garden rental is cheaper than what you're paying for your share.

by a hair. also my apartment is a duplex. not a musty ass basement.


*rob*

September 9, 2011 10:56 AM - BoerumHillScott
I always assumed that 1st street in Brooklyn was where it was for similar reasons why 1st Street in Manhattan is located where it is: that was the edge of the city when the decision was made to go to a numbered grid.
September 9, 2011 10:56 AM - MontroseMorris
Rob, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but you are incorrect. How many times have you even been over here, aside from the one time you came to Dave's party? Feeding off marketing and hype? That's a laugh. If anything, people have been scared off of even visiting here because of hype. I fail to see how a property that sells for 2 million in the Slope, while an identical property, by the same architect even, in BS sells for $700K, but you are getting more for your buck in the Slope. Yeah, you got more amenities, but you don't live in your favorite restaurant, you live in your home. I'd say an argument could be made for Bed Stuy.
September 9, 2011 10:57 AM - GortFromPlanetX
WOW Bedstuy is most definitely going to increase in popularity fast.
September 9, 2011 10:57 AM - BoerumHillScott
Real estate taxes in NYC are set up to give a huge advantage to people in 1-4 family buildings, as well as older apartment buildings in some areas.
September 9, 2011 11:00 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
fail to see how a property that sells for 2 million in the Slope, while an identical property, by the same architect even, in BS sells for $700K, but you are getting more for your buck in the Slope. Yeah, you got more amenities, but you don't live in your favorite restaurant, you live in your home. I'd say an argument could be made for Bed Stuy.

i do agree with you. it's not like i can afford to eat out in my neighorbood or anything, but that's not my thing anyway. rent is still relatively cheaper for what you get in park slope. park slope is 100000x more gay friendly. so to me, it's worth the price even tho im only genetically gay.

*rob*

Edited at September 9, 2011 11:00 AM
September 9, 2011 11:00 AM - Deleted
Scott;

You are correct about NYC Property Taxes, and this policy is a legacy of the bad old days. Property taxes for 1-4 family homes were set low in the hopes of retaining some of the middle class, at a time when folks were fleeing the city.
September 9, 2011 11:01 AM - BoerumHillScott
Personally, I would not live in BS because I spend a lot of time in both Manhattan and areas of Brooklyn south of Flatbush, and I would not like having the A/C as the only subway line.

If I wanted to have a car, BS seems like it would be a nice place to live.
September 9, 2011 11:01 AM - GortFromPlanetX
The city is BLEEDING my building with real estate taxes, just received a notice that they are going to up it.
I'm truly terrified about it.
September 9, 2011 11:02 AM - MontroseMorris
Low taxes a "panderance"? For once, get some facts before you speak. The taxes are low in Bed Stuy because it is a low income inner city neighborhood that up until recently was greatly undervalued on the tax rolls, mostly because the banks had red-lined it since the 1940's and 50's, artificially declaring it worthless and not eligible for mortgages. Low taxes are about the only good things the city did for the neighborhood for years.
September 9, 2011 11:02 AM - BoerumHillScott
I wonder if we will see a push for property tax reform in 10 years when all the abatement on new buildings start going away.
September 9, 2011 11:05 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Low taxes a "panderance"? For once, get some facts before you speak.

YES it is. read benson's post. it was a PANDERANCE to keep the middle class. but the middle class are still bleeding out of this city. so it's STILL a panderance. what you worried your taxes are gonna up? newflash, they will be soon (hopefully)


*rob*

September 9, 2011 11:05 AM - GortFromPlanetX
"I wonder if we will see a push for property tax reform in 10 years"

Please OHHHH Please (((down on both knees with clasped hands raised to sky)))
September 9, 2011 11:06 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: I pay more than 5k for my 1400 sqft. Condo in a 12 unit building. Seems way too high to me.
September 9, 2011 11:06 AM - MontroseMorris
Do you have any idea of the number of gay people who live in Bed Stuy? No one has beaten Dave up, have they? Please, just stop. I don't care if you like the neighborhood or not, but the constant spouting as fact things you just make up..... ARGH!!!!!!!
September 9, 2011 11:07 AM - Arkady
Gort - Have you asked for an adjustment? Is it a rental? Do you file an RPIE?
One reasons house taxes are low is that there are a lot of owners & they vote so politicians don't want to alienate them.
September 9, 2011 11:07 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I pay more than 5k for my 1400 sqft. Condo in a 12 unit building. Seems way too high to me.

that does suck. youre totally subsidizing the brownstone scrubs

*rob*

September 9, 2011 11:11 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Do you have any idea of the number of gay people who live in Bed Stuy?

doesnt matter how many gay people live there. i'd be more likely to get beaten up walking around with a hannah montana purse there at 2am in the morning than where i live now. deal with it.


*rob*

Edited at September 9, 2011 11:11 AM
September 9, 2011 11:11 AM - lechacal
Thanks for the shout outs. Miss talking to you all. Life is great, still love Irvington and the commute. Working hard. Getting ready to run the NYC marathon this fall. Work, kids, school, house, neighbors, my life isn't particularly interesting to anyone but me at the moment.
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:11 AM
September 9, 2011 11:11 AM - Deleted
In about 15-20 years, there is going to be a battle royale in the city concerning property taxes. With condos going up all over the place, they will be a sizable constituency. When the 421A abatements expire, and a guy owning a 1200 square feet condo is paying 5x what the owner of a larger home is, watch out!
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:11 AM
September 9, 2011 11:11 AM - Legion
"Yeah, you got more amenities, but you don't live in your favorite restaurant, you live in your home."

MM,
There's a great scene in the Peter Sellers film : Being There.
The first half hour of the movie is spent inside this wonderful old townhouse in Washington, D.C. where we learn about the lead character's way of life for 50 years.
It has the period detail and is spacious. He is a gardener and we see a small but well kept and elegant space behind the house. Every indication is that we are in a high priced home in a high priced neighborhood.
When he finally goes out into the world we see that the surrounding neighborhood has fallen into blight and decay with garbage strewn streets and abandoned lots surrounding.
Really a startling jolt to the viewer.

.A great commentary on how a home can transform our perspective.
September 9, 2011 11:13 AM - Legion
re: property tax

At least Albany is starting to work again.
They passed a property tax cap this past year.
September 9, 2011 11:14 AM - dibs
Dave I'd like to make an offer- $805,000 CASH!

SOLD!!!


MM, if it sells too fast I'll likely stay in the neighborhood another year or two, renting.
September 9, 2011 11:14 AM - GortFromPlanetX
Part owner Arkady, haven't filed for a possible adjustment yet quite frankly have been afraid to not wanting them to focus on us
even more. But I think where they are going we will have to now, I really doubt whether they would even remove just a few thousand off though which is not enough.
September 9, 2011 11:14 AM - MontroseMorris
Benson's post does not contradict mine.

You act like you pay 95% of your salary in taxes. You think someone's going to give something back to you if property taxes go up? If they do, your landlord is going to raise the rent. And rents everywhere are going up. Count on it.
September 9, 2011 11:15 AM - denton
"When the 421A abatements expire, and a guy owning a 1200 square feet condo is paying 5x what the owner of a larger home is, watch out!"

However benson we've already been thru this without class warfare. J51 tax abatements were big in coop conversions in the 1980s and have expired with the same result.
September 9, 2011 11:16 AM - MontroseMorris
I'm out of here. Tired of arguing with you rob, it's like banging your head against the wall. What a waste of my time.
September 9, 2011 11:16 AM - Deleted
jackal in da house!
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:16 AM
September 9, 2011 11:18 AM - Arkady
Gort - Look into filing an RPIE. It's an Expense/Income statement & goes a long way towards getting a change in tax rate. The Fin Dept follows a formula: so many sq. feet in such&such neighborhood probably generates X income & Y expenses. If you don't reflect the median of your hood, you are paying more than you should. RPIE filing gives them real figures to work w/.
September 9, 2011 11:18 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
And rents everywhere are going up. Count on it.

but in the last 10 years they went up significantly higher in percentages in shitty neighborhoods tho. duh

*rob*

Edited at September 9, 2011 11:18 AM
September 9, 2011 11:19 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I'm out of here. Tired of arguing with you rob

i wasnt arguing. you just dont like people who's opinions are not 100 percent PC, Sanitized, and pander to both sides of the spectrum. get a backbone. you seem to have zero beliefs in anything! youre what they call on reality tv shows, the classic floater



*rob*

September 9, 2011 11:20 AM - BoerumHillScott
I think the mentality is different with co-ops than condos, since with a co-op the tax just gets lumped in your maintenance payment. Few people not on the board take the time to calculate the tax part of the bill.
In a condo, you are the one getting the bill, so there is more of a emotional stake.

In addition, I have read that converted co-ops tend to have lower tax assessments than new condos with the same actual sell price, since the assessed "Market Value" is determined by rents in similar buildings. For many older co-ops the rents being used for comparison are controlled, thereby lowering the co-op's assessed value.
September 9, 2011 11:22 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Rob is right. MM is more brownstoner than lifeinbkln if you know what i mean.
September 9, 2011 11:22 AM - MontroseMorris
Rob, that does it. I have no backbone? A floater? Fuck off.
September 9, 2011 11:23 AM - MontroseMorris
You too, Randy. I really could care less what either of you think.
September 9, 2011 11:24 AM - Deleted
jeez hombres - it's friday. lets be joyous.
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:24 AM
September 9, 2011 11:26 AM - Arkady
MM is an integral part of this site. That she also has a strong following 'over there>>>' simply means that she transcends the pettiness of both Mr. B & some of us (me included.)
September 9, 2011 11:26 AM - dibs
Just pulled the boat out of the water. :(

Fogging the carburetors and the cylinders now!
September 9, 2011 11:27 AM - Deleted
"'over there>>>' "

The web-site that dare not speak its name!
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:27 AM
September 9, 2011 11:28 AM - Legion
Don't worry,
as soon as you win a property tax adjustment
you get tagged with a sanitation fine or increase in water & sewer charges. :o(

.
September 9, 2011 11:28 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Sorry but MM is such a brownie
September 9, 2011 11:30 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
what's a brownie? is that like a taint licker?

*rob*

September 9, 2011 11:30 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
sorry im being an awful person today...
*rob*

September 9, 2011 11:31 AM - GortFromPlanetX
Yeah Legion I believe it!

Water / sewer keeps going up but at least that is affordable...
September 9, 2011 11:31 AM - denton
gort, in addition to what arkady sez, I think you need a (spelling alert) certiory atty. THey'll try and reduce the taxes and take a percentage.
September 9, 2011 11:31 AM - rf
Scott, it's so much easier owning a car here than in more upscale neighborhoods. Parking is just not a problem! But schools are a big problem. My part of Bed-Stuy is in District 13, same as Clinton Hill, Ft. Greene, Prospect Heights, Brooklyn Heights, and the North Slope, so there's some wiggle room. But out where Dave lives, it's much harder.
September 9, 2011 11:31 AM - Legion
When was it that we were getting checks back from the government?
It was like 3 or 4 years ago. Sort of a mini-stimulus.
Anyway, it went right to paying the increase in city water charges which went up by something like 30-40% over three years.
September 9, 2011 11:31 AM - Kensingtonian
We hire RE tax lawyers every year for our coop to fight tax increases and they have been successful in most years (they don't get paid unless they win and take a cut of the reduction so more of an insentive for them to win as much as possible). Unfortunately I recommended the same folks to DeLepp's coop and they weren't successful there.

I do believe we'll see a war in a few years when the condo abatements start running out. There was already a huge battle in Queens where a bunch of coops got together and NYC Finance readjusted their assessments because they were grossly overvalued. Something is obviously wrong when I pay in real estate taxes almost as much as Dave does for the whole house, except that I have a studio apartment :o/.
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:31 AM
September 9, 2011 11:33 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Not sure what I meant but I like robs interpretation!
September 9, 2011 11:34 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
But schools are a big problem.

the schools arent the problem, shitty parents are.

*rob*

September 9, 2011 11:34 AM - BoerumHillScott
Water increases have been skyrocketing nationwide over the last 10-15 years, largely going to sewer improvements.
Some liberals in Washington decided that dumping raw sewerage into the nearest river/lake/ocean was not a good thing.
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:34 AM
September 9, 2011 11:35 AM - BoerumHillScott
Man, lots of hate here this morning.
I agree with DH, let's be joyous it's Friday.
September 9, 2011 11:35 AM - Legion
True gort,
we can't complain too much about property taxes in Brooklyn or Queens.
It must really suck to be handing over $1,000 per month in property taxes like Nassau or Westchester.
September 9, 2011 11:36 AM - GortFromPlanetX
Thanks Denton would definitely get a real estate lawyer to file unfortunately I don't have the gray matter in these things. :(
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:36 AM
September 9, 2011 11:36 AM - Kensingtonian
Jinx Denton. didn't see you wrote that.

BTW, I spoke to someone you know (Condoguy) yesterday. Had a pleasant convo. He created and account on here too so hopefully will be dropping by from time to time. Oh and if I ever decide to sell my place, I am defintiely hiring you as the photographer.
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:36 AM
September 9, 2011 11:36 AM - BoerumHillScott
Don't Westchester and Nassau have much lower state/local income tax rates?
September 9, 2011 11:37 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
the thought of paying for water and paying for sewage that takes away your poo mist is mind boggling

*rob*

September 9, 2011 11:38 AM - Kensingtonian
Gort, The guys we used is Goldberg and Weprin. Not sure if they handle smaller properties though (unless I am mistaken and you live in a multi family condo/coop).
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:38 AM
September 9, 2011 11:38 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
thank god i dont own a home. i'd have no running water and i'd be shitting in plastic bags.

*rob*

September 9, 2011 11:38 AM - rf
You're paying it, Rob! Your landlord pays it and it becomes part of your rent.
September 9, 2011 11:39 AM - Legion
No problem mitigating environmental damage with good policy.
Big problem making the middle class pay for it all through sneaky city tax hikes.
September 9, 2011 11:40 AM - bxgrl
Dibs- the house looks awesome. The color opens the space up and works beautifully with the wood. But other than that and a Hi! to jackal, the OT doesn't seem like a pleasant place to be today.
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:40 AM
September 9, 2011 11:41 AM - Arkady
I just filled out the form that came w/ the estimate of value & projection of next year's taxes - didn't use a professional (&, believe me, I'm not an accountant-type & usually go into brain freeze w/ bureaucracy.)
September 9, 2011 11:41 AM - Legion
"Don't Westchester and Nassau have much lower state/local income tax rates"
State tax rates are the same.
local taxes vary depending on location.
Property taxes however are enormous in both those counties. Westchester has the highest in the nation.
Guess who is second?
September 9, 2011 11:43 AM - GortFromPlanetX
Legion I don't know... But anything cheaper would be GREAT!

Thanks Kens for that info!
September 9, 2011 11:44 AM - dibs
Well my Brooklyn taxes are about half what thy are for each of the other three houses!!!
September 9, 2011 11:45 AM - Deleted
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

honey badger don't give a shit about taxes
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:45 AM
September 9, 2011 11:46 AM - Deleted
nassau taxes are insanely high, but at least they have several of the top public school districts in the country.


September 9, 2011 11:47 AM - GortFromPlanetX
Arkady even so you have more gray matter than I, I'm still working on my spelling!
September 9, 2011 11:47 AM - Arkady
Friends of mine in upstate know of derelict farms where the taxes are higher than what I pay - drives them nuts.
September 9, 2011 11:48 AM - Arkady
Yeah, Gort, but words aren't numbers.
September 9, 2011 11:49 AM - Donatella
I was really steamed when that whole OT thing happened at Brownstoner and I don't apologize for that. But I think what is clear is that Jon Butler wanted to pursue a different business model. I think that this website that Scott launched here is wonderful as a substitute for the OT over there but to stay mad.....waste of energy. He does what he does over there. I hope it helps Dave to sell his place. I found out some good information over there the other day. And busting on MM as a brownstoner rather than being part of this group is really......what can I say..... nasty and silly. Move on.

*rob* what the h is up with you today? Chill out.
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:49 AM
September 9, 2011 11:50 AM - Slopefarm
"But other than that and a Hi! to jackal, the OT doesn't seem like a pleasant place to be today."
Agreed, and perhaps I contributed to the animosity by defending dibs on the paint color.
In fact, I know a joyous little ditty to celebrate the fact that "it's Friday". Anyone care to hum along?
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:50 AM
September 9, 2011 11:50 AM - Legion
DH,
Agree,
many people just look at the taxes as a big savings on the price of sending their kids to private school if they lived in nyc.
For people with kids its a valid tradoff. Great schools.
September 9, 2011 11:52 AM - Legion
"Yeah, Gort, but words aren't numbers."

What about Pi ?

...just poking at you arkady ;o)

.
September 9, 2011 11:57 AM - bxgrl
Yes Slopey- I blame you for all of it. :)

Totally agree, Dona!
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:57 AM
September 9, 2011 11:57 AM - Donatella
Kansas City Missouri is separated by Kansas City, Kansas by a skinny little road. The public schools in Missouri are among the worst in the country (not so in Kansas). The real estate tax differential between MO and KS is great with MO being lower. So a lot of Catholics live in KCMO, sending their kids to Catholic school.


September 9, 2011 11:57 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
You're paying it, Rob! Your landlord pays it and it becomes part of your rent.

i KNOW it's built into my rent, dimwit! my point is that if i HAD to pay a water bill and a sewage bill, it just wouldnt get done much! that is why renting is so much easier.

*rob*

September 9, 2011 11:59 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Agree,
many people just look at the taxes as a big savings on the price of sending their kids to private school if they lived in nyc.
For people with kids its a valid tradoff. Great schools.

except that the suburbs are slowly becoming slums due to section 8 vouchers! and the inner cities are becoming annoying moonface enclaves, yet they STILL are a bunch of racists who wont send their kids to local public schools. this country is so lame



*rob*

Edited at September 9, 2011 11:59 AM
September 9, 2011 12:01 PM - Deleted
i find it highly unlikely anyone is renting in manhasset, syosset or jericho long island with section 8 vouchers.
September 9, 2011 12:01 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
And busting on MM as a brownstoner rather than being part of this group is really......what can I say..... nasty and silly. Move on.

this is the internet, a random little area on the internet... it's not a girls scouts troop. or am i mistaken on that!?

*rob*

September 9, 2011 12:01 PM - Deleted
Rob;

I think you should have some lunch and get some fresh air. You seem to be in a foul mood today.
September 9, 2011 12:03 PM - Legion
I would blame crash test dummy parents for about 60% of the problems with a bad school.
5% on bad school food.
September 9, 2011 12:03 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
i find it highly unlikely anyone is renting in manhasset, syosset or jericho long island with section 8 vouchers.

lol

*rob*

September 9, 2011 12:03 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Dona what's truly silly is actually caring if someone says you are more brownstoner than this site. Get. a. Life.
Edited at September 9, 2011 12:03 PM
September 9, 2011 12:04 PM - bxgrl
MM is part of this group. She is also a professional writer. When LifeinBkln hires her to write for us, then you can complain. Uh..wait- not even then.
September 9, 2011 12:05 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i did already have lunch, and yes i am in an extremely foul mood today. i should probably step away from the keyboard or something. i think im just pissed cuz my grandmother wont leave me the fuck alone. i told her to back off last night on the phone and she called me three times at work today crying. i really cant deal with that kinda shit.
i HATE family




*rob*

September 9, 2011 12:06 PM - Legion
I think good food contributes to a good attitude overall.
At least in the early formative years.
In high school they're all subsisting on cheese puffs and attitude.
September 9, 2011 12:07 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
there's an awful lot of bile being poured out in here today. a fun spot has turned into a hell hole. :-(

have a nice weekend everyone.
September 9, 2011 12:08 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
MM is part of this group.

random internet posters is NOT a group. is it some sorta weirdo club? no, it's random internet posters. sheesh! were you ignored from playing with people as a kid or something!?


*rob*

September 9, 2011 12:08 PM - bxgrl
Kiss the cats for me, snaps!

(I bet that makes benson run screaming from the room) ;)
September 9, 2011 12:09 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
okay, i shall leave as i think im the only one spewing bile anyway. snappy, youre another phoney floater. there, i said it! have a good weekend everyone

*rob*

September 9, 2011 12:10 PM - Legion
This is all bxgrl's fault.
September 9, 2011 12:12 PM - jessibaby
Rob, as a fellow negative nellie, I want to say that as much as I also think I see things with more clarity, it’s probably very, very possible that those you insult are actually true in their convictions and beliefs.
September 9, 2011 12:13 PM - Donatella
Yes, see you guys. Have a nice weekend everybody.
Edited at September 9, 2011 12:13 PM
September 9, 2011 12:16 PM - GortFromPlanetX
Arkady I'm not sure which are worse for me LOL
September 9, 2011 12:18 PM - Legion
;o) joking bxgrl.

Here's good news:
The elusive African Golden Cat filmed:
http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/player/news/animals-news/african-golden-cat-vin.html
Edited at September 9, 2011 12:18 PM
September 9, 2011 12:21 PM - cobblehiller
Gort, A very similar circumstance re: taxes is happening to a friend of mine, right now. (And now I'm wondering if you are he?!) I'm very sorry to hear it, in either case.
September 9, 2011 12:23 PM - dibs
Is it too early to start drinking now on our second to last day here???
Edited at September 9, 2011 12:22 PM
September 9, 2011 12:26 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Not at all Dave. Have one for me!
Edited at September 9, 2011 12:26 PM
September 9, 2011 12:26 PM - bxgrl
Finally I get my long overdue recognition :)
September 9, 2011 12:28 PM - cobblehiller
"Is it too early to start drinking now on our second to last day here?"

No, and please have one for me! Actually, make it a double! : P
September 9, 2011 12:28 PM - GortFromPlanetX
Gorgeous Kitteh Legion!!!

Thanks Cobble, I am sure the city is sending out these notices to many folk now sad really.
September 9, 2011 12:29 PM - cobblehiller
Gort, You should double check it, then. My friend called about his, and they said they had made a mistake and instead of 2012, it should have said 2016, or something like that.
September 9, 2011 12:34 PM - BoerumHillScott
I'm ready to start drinking
September 9, 2011 12:36 PM - lechacal
Can someone give me a brief recap of lifeinbk vs brownstoner since the split? I have been absent.
September 9, 2011 12:38 PM - GortFromPlanetX
Cobble I will check it Thanks that would be great if so, still not great but better later than now
September 9, 2011 12:39 PM - BoerumHillScott
Jon is still doing his brownstoner thing like before, but with no OT.
The biggest difference is a lot fewer comments there and more participation from Jon.

Not much has changed here other than The What making such as ass of himself that we had to turn off posting from anon people.
September 9, 2011 12:41 PM - Deleted
Actually I think this site is becoming more interesting. People are starting to contribute articles that are more varied in scope.
September 9, 2011 12:42 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: What do you mean legion? There is no us v them, mr b gave us the boot and with a few exceptions we all stopped posting over there or had been banned so it didn't matter anyway. What showed up for a moment here but then he started posting gross shit so scott banned him.
Edited at September 9, 2011 12:42 PM
September 9, 2011 12:47 PM - Legion
Hey lechacal,
Welcome back!

Like BHS stated,
Mr. B decided to pull the plug on the OT, inviting posters to continue posting on the usual threads but without
any biting commentary.
The merry crew decamped to various other locales, finally settling on the BHS administered (with assistance from other regulars) lifeinbkln.com

Various attempts by regulars to post there have resulted in banning depending on what they said.

Like Yogi Berra said:
"That place is so popular, nobody goes there anymore!"


September 9, 2011 12:48 PM - BoerumHillScott
It has been nice this week to have more articles posted here other than the OT every day.
One of these days I will get off my ass and do some.
September 9, 2011 12:48 PM - Deleted
Randi;
Was that comment meant for me (rather than Legion)? If so, I wasn't trying to make a comparison between Lifein Bklyn and that other site. When I said that this site is becoming more interesting, the comparison was to its beginnings.
September 9, 2011 12:50 PM - Legion
...either we entered an OT time wormhole with randi commenting before I posted,
or he is commenting on BHS's post.
September 9, 2011 12:51 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: I was commenting on legions post.
September 9, 2011 12:53 PM - BoerumHillScott
I think Randolph is psychic and knew what Legion would post.
Edited at September 9, 2011 12:53 PM
September 9, 2011 12:57 PM - Legion
lol,
randi has actual psychic abilities!
September 9, 2011 1:10 PM - Deleted
was just in my chill spot on kenmare btw elizabeth and bowery smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee and some old chinese guy tried to give me money. wtf?
September 9, 2011 1:15 PM - lechacal
He probably was trying to buy a loose cig. Either that or a bj.
Edited at September 9, 2011 1:15 PM
September 9, 2011 1:17 PM - lechacal
I just looked at brownstoner. Wow that site blows now. And no one is there any more. That dude was fucking retarded to close down the ot. Anyways, gonna disappear indefinitely back into my hole again. Bye.
September 9, 2011 1:19 PM - bxgrl
Bye Lech- don't be such a stranger! :)
Edited at September 9, 2011 1:19 PM
September 9, 2011 1:19 PM - Deleted
i offered him a cig - no dice. maybe he was trying to buy my iphone. m4l always said the chinese haggle hard but this guy was really hardcore.
Edited at September 9, 2011 1:19 PM
September 9, 2011 1:20 PM - Deleted
later jackal
September 9, 2011 1:36 PM - GortFromPlanetX
Bless you Arkady you are truly GOLD Thanks!!!

During hard economic times and the city is trying to squeeze us even more just makes me sick!!!!
Edited at September 9, 2011 1:36 PM
September 9, 2011 1:40 PM - Deleted
zzzzzzzzzz

did rob scare everyone off with his sandy mangina?
Edited at September 9, 2011 1:40 PM
September 9, 2011 1:43 PM - BoerumHillScott
Friday afternoon lunch/siesta time
September 9, 2011 1:47 PM - Deleted
was gonna post a picture i took of this this morning - but it looked pretty shitty so didn't bother

but pretty cool 9/11 memorial mural got put up near my crib last night

http://gothamist.com/2011/09/09/photos_street_artist_wks_911_memori.php#photo-5


September 9, 2011 1:48 PM - ij
Dave, I love how you have a window over the kitchen sink. That is truly a plesant thing.

Jessi, happy belated b-day.

Lech, hope all is well.
September 9, 2011 1:55 PM - Kensingtonian
Dh, just for you....don't jizz in your pants though (office safe for everyone except DH)

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/books-guides-resources/martha-stewart-like-youve-never-seen-her-before-155617

Edited at September 9, 2011 1:55 PM
September 9, 2011 1:58 PM - Deleted
haha - yay martha!
Edited at September 9, 2011 1:58 PM
September 9, 2011 1:58 PM - Kensingtonian
Did anyone watch the video I posted of Mr. B's interview at an apartmenttherapy.com event? Actually pretty neat to hear about his life story sort of speak and what goes through his head at times. He also mentions the death of the OT and mentions The What briefly (fast forward to about 38 minutes in).

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/ny-design-meetup/jonathan-butler-of-brownstoner-brooklyn-flea-9711-apartment-therapy-design-evenings-155429
Edited at September 9, 2011 1:58 PM
September 9, 2011 1:58 PM - Deleted
I like Martha. I think she is attractive.
September 9, 2011 2:00 PM - BoerumHillScott
I started to watch it, but that's just way too long for me to watch an interview on my computer.
Edited at September 9, 2011 2:00 PM
September 9, 2011 2:35 PM - cobblehiller
From the Apt. Therapy video: A lot of posters that were "sucking the oxygen out of the room".

Nice! Thanks, Mr. B! : (
Edited at September 9, 2011 2:41 PM
September 9, 2011 2:43 PM - Deleted
Fret not, Cobble. There's LOTS of Oxygen over there now. He got his wish.


Edited at September 9, 2011 2:43 PM
September 9, 2011 2:44 PM - Deleted
well, mission accomplished then. there's certainly a lot of oxygen over there now, and not much else.
September 9, 2011 2:44 PM - Deleted
jinx benson
September 9, 2011 2:44 PM - Deleted
Jinx, dh!!
Edited at September 9, 2011 2:44 PM
September 9, 2011 2:46 PM - Deleted
ok - lets stop posting the same thing simultaneously benson, it's freaking me out!!
September 9, 2011 2:47 PM - cobblehiller
LOL! I'm not fretting, it's just like hearing someone talk about you behind your back. That f*cker!
September 9, 2011 2:47 PM - Deleted
I can't watch videos like that, computer or TV. Is there anything more nauseating than a person with a vested interest interviewing an associate? It's barely above an informercial interview.
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September 9, 2011 2:48 PM - Deleted
robert moses rules
September 9, 2011 2:48 PM - DeadCatBounce
Stock Market tanking today. The Obama "job's" speech did not go over well.
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September 9, 2011 2:49 PM - cobblehiller
What do you guys think of the area on the Clinton Hill/Bed Stuy Border...like Kosciusko Street, etc. Or Lafayette and Bedford?
September 9, 2011 2:50 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
"sucking the oxygen out of the room" lol. what a turd nugget. i havent watched the interview yet tho

*rob*

September 9, 2011 2:50 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im in a better mood right now. i was a tad off the rails this morning sorry

*rob*

September 9, 2011 2:51 PM - Deleted
It's OK, Rob. We all have our "moments".
September 9, 2011 2:53 PM - Slopefarm
My belated addition to the recap we've all been giving jackal: I do think something is missing by having the regulars here and the OT-free BS blog over there. At least for me, there was a certain groove to hanging out on the OT and then popping in to interesting threads or threads that turned interesting. Now, it's insular here with little new content or blood and soulless over there with no one interesting to chat with and not much new to chat about. Much as I like all you guys, it isn't quite the same over here and it certainly isn't the same over there (and, of course, I was never interested in that other over there.) Like dona and others put it, I'm not mad at Mr. B and I am not boycotting, but i do think he erred and I do think what he's doing now is much more pure business and much less in the spirit of why he started the thing in the first place. Another lesson in impermanence, for you buddhists.
September 9, 2011 2:54 PM - ij
Dona or somebody, please delete that post.
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September 9, 2011 2:55 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
true everyone has their moments, but sometimes i have completely puta moments where im mentally spazzing all over the place. im probably bipolar


*rob*

September 9, 2011 2:57 PM - bxgrl
Doesn't excuse the stuff you said to MM, rob.
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September 9, 2011 2:57 PM - rf
Cobble, what I like is that it's close to me! But it's kinda so-so, much better with a car. Varies a lot from block to block. Some of the blocks are really, really nice but others...not so much and there's plenty of ugly around there. Much nicer I think to be further south, closer to Fulton St., but I am sure the listings are pretty random and it's not like you can pick a block and say, ok, I want to rent an apartment HERE!
September 9, 2011 2:59 PM - bxgrl
Stocks sink as Europe nears 'tipping point' - CNNMoney

Not over the Obama speech.
September 9, 2011 2:59 PM - Deleted
Bxgrl;

He said he was sorry. Can't we move one?
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September 9, 2011 3:02 PM - cobblehiller
I took it down, infinite.
September 9, 2011 3:03 PM - Donatella
oh, I am sorry, jester.
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September 9, 2011 3:04 PM - cobblehiller
Thanks, rf. If only I could just point. But there are some neat looking apts. over there. I'm just concerned about having to schlep...seems like it might mean a lot of schlepping...

BH is going to walk around over there right now.
September 9, 2011 3:04 PM - DeadCatBounce
Bxgrl, that is CNN's opinion. Not a fact.
If you agree with CNN's opinion, that's fine though.


September 9, 2011 3:05 PM - ij
Thanks, cobble. It's okay, dona.
September 9, 2011 3:05 PM - bxgrl
benson, he made a general apology- not one to her. And he grossly insulted her. randi wasn't far behind. It was over the top and completely uncalled for.
September 9, 2011 3:06 PM - Slopefarm
Have a good weekend, all, and a safe and contemplative 9/11 anniversary.
September 9, 2011 3:07 PM - Deleted
chiller - i was looking around there for a bit as the rents are cheaper and as you said there's some cool looking apts (bedford nostrand g area) - retail seemed pretty good too - only concern i had was the area is sandwiched btw a lot of public housing (lafayette gardens to west, low rise bldgs around greene btw marcy and nostrand).
September 9, 2011 3:08 PM - bxgrl
DCB- several news sources have been saying the stock market is dropping because of worries over Europe. And this was before his speech.
September 9, 2011 3:09 PM - DeadCatBounce
Benson, I am doing my best to distract Bxgrl with a discussion about the economy. You are not helping.
September 9, 2011 3:10 PM - BoerumHillScott
The market has been going up and down in this range for the last 6 weeks.
September 9, 2011 3:11 PM - cobblehiller
Hmm, I see that now. Thanks, DH. Some of these apts are almost too good to be true. One has a garden AND a W/D!
September 9, 2011 3:12 PM - bxgrl
The Bloomberg headline in my google news is: "Stocks tumble worldwide after Obama speech." But when you click the link, it says not a word about Obama or the speech. It's all about Europe and Greece.
September 9, 2011 3:13 PM - bxgrl
And much appreciated for the distraction, DCB :)
September 9, 2011 3:15 PM - Donatella
I drove past the Tillary St. firehouse. They were hanging purple draping.
September 9, 2011 3:16 PM - DeadCatBounce
You are right that several news sources are reporting the same opinion as if it was fact.
I believe in independent thinking.
I have long thought that the eurozone would eventually collapse. Up until very recently those very same sources recorded their opinion in lockstep that the ECB was invincible.
Now, as a group, they all change direction.
I find that weird.

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September 9, 2011 3:19 PM - cobblehiller
What are the neighborhoods/areas you liked best, DH?
September 9, 2011 3:27 PM - bxgrl
They lost a couple of men including the son of friends of mine.
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September 9, 2011 3:29 PM - rf
It's very close to the G train and there are plenty of buses to downtown Brooklyn. The B38 on Lafayette runs very frequently--it even has express/local service.
September 9, 2011 3:33 PM - cobblehiller
That's why I liked it from looking at the map, rf. G train would be good so I could get over here easily.
September 9, 2011 3:33 PM - rf
Lafayette coming in, Dekalb going out I mean. Those buses and the ones on Gates and Putnam/Halsey all converge on Fulton St. by the time they hit Clinton Hill or Ft. Greene.
September 9, 2011 3:36 PM - rf
The G is often diverted or delayed or otherwise fucked up on the weekend, but during the week during the day and evening it's extremely reliable, every 10 minutes like a clock. And it's usually better between Bedford-Nostrand and Park Slope than the section from Bedford-Nostrand to Queens.
September 9, 2011 3:38 PM - Deleted
Stock market aside, the impending implosion of the Eurozone will be a further impediment to restarting growth here in the US. To turn around a phrase used during boom times: the world's economy is sputtering on all cylinders
September 9, 2011 3:38 PM - MontroseMorris
Cobble, there aren't a lot of places to food shop around there, unless some things opened since the last time I was over there. I think the area is rapidly gentrifying, and if you get in now, your rent will be far less than someone who comes a year from now. There's a ton of new construction in that area. If you go for one of those, look at it with a fine tooth comb. W/D not worth bad construction.
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September 9, 2011 3:39 PM - rf
There are more cafes and restaurants and such on Bedford and Classon and Nostrand now than just a year ago but it's got a long way to go until it's like Cobble Hill! Or even Clinton Hill. I haven't checked out the new (small) supermarket across Bedford from the Y, but aside from that the pickings are pretty slim.
September 9, 2011 3:41 PM - MontroseMorris
But if you do move there, we'll be able to come over really easily!
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September 9, 2011 3:41 PM - rf
Fresh Direct delivers, at least I think so! There are a ton of young yuppieish families living in the converted loft buildings just north of Dekalb around Classon and for sure gentrification is on the march.
September 9, 2011 3:43 PM - Deleted
Yes, can we have all our liberal ladies move into one area? I'll make it a no-drive-through zone!
September 9, 2011 3:43 PM - cobblehiller
Thanks, MM and rf, really helpful.
September 9, 2011 3:44 PM - bxgrl
Now that benson, would make us really happy. More so if you erect a concrete bunker around your place.
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September 9, 2011 3:45 PM - rf
MM, I sort of agree about the construction issue but maybe doesn't matter so much since Cobble and BH are renting. If it's really bad, you can always move. When things finally pick up, they will likely be sold as condos. There are a bunch of new buildings, now rentals, north of Home Depot, just south of Satmar-land that look pretty nice. And the revitalization of Myrtle is definitely moving into Bed-Stuy--an interesting mix with the new Kosher markets.
September 9, 2011 3:45 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
it's friggin nutzo on broadway in lower manhattan today nothing but fire trucks blaring their horns ALL day so far. what is going on downtown?

*rob*

September 9, 2011 3:45 PM - MontroseMorris
Works for us, Benson. : )
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September 9, 2011 3:46 PM - rf
You can join my community garden! Free figs!
September 9, 2011 3:47 PM - cobblehiller
Are you offering to pay for the movers, benson? : P
September 9, 2011 3:50 PM - Deleted
If all the liberal ladies move into one area, we would have to give it one of those chi-chi names. I've got it! LiCaLa! Short for Li(beral)Ca(t)La(dies). LiCaLa! You heard it here first folks.
September 9, 2011 3:50 PM - rf
Be sure to check out any block you might be interested in at different times of the day/night, like on the weekend in the evening. There are blocks that look very different late at night than during the day.
September 9, 2011 3:50 PM - sixyearsandcounting
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/new-york/woman-bit-rat-rare-attack-while-waiting-train-174106173.html

"A hungry rat chomped on a straphanger's foot as she waited for a train in a downtown subway station, transit sources said.
The woman was sitting on a bench on a J train platform inside the Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall station about 9:30 a.m. Monday when the rodent skittered up to her and bit down on her flesh, the sources said.
Bleeding from the wound, the woman ran to a nearby service booth and asked for help - completely freaking out.
"She was pretty frantic and upset," a transit worker said. "You could actually see the bite."
The woman, who is in her 20s, was taken to New York Downtown Hospital, where she was treated and released, authorities said."
September 9, 2011 3:50 PM - MontroseMorris
I hear ya, rf, but what a pain to spend somewhere in the realm of $24K a year, and have the light sockets falling out of the wall, and the windows leaking. That shouldn't be as per usual.

I do think it will be interesting over there, also to see if it becomes a real neighborhood, not just a transitional point for most of its residents. People will have to put down real roots and become involved in what is going on around them. That way it will become a real destination and home, not a rest stop.
September 9, 2011 3:53 PM - rf
The City Hall J station is one disgusting place! Looks like an archeological dig, unless it's been cleaned in the last 6 months since I was there. If so, it's probably the first time in decades.
September 9, 2011 3:53 PM - Arkady
Jesus! I'd be afraid of rabies or bubonic plague!! A rat exhibiting such aberrant behavior might well be rabid.
September 9, 2011 3:54 PM - rf
It could be that it ate poison and is in the process of dying.
September 9, 2011 3:57 PM - cobblehiller
Ton of new construction, some looks really nice, and for a bunch less than what we're paying for HALF the space, no DW or W/D. We're stuffed into 650 sq. ft here. 800 or 900 would be HUGE for us!
September 9, 2011 3:58 PM - bxgrl
If all the liberal ladies move into one area, we would have to give it one of those chi-chi names. I've got it! LiCaLa! Short for Li(beral)Ca(t)La(dies). LiCaLa! You heard it here first folks.

Well it's a better sounding name than Bococa and Procro, that's for sure :)
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September 9, 2011 3:59 PM - cobblehiller
I don't think I've ever been to City Hall J stop, hmmm.

I'd freak out big time if a RAT bit me!
September 9, 2011 4:02 PM - sixyearsandcounting
I've been on the J once, like ten years ago. I guess that was enough!

I think I've never been on the M train - other than that, I'm pretty sure I've been on every subway line at some point (yes, even the Franklin Avenue Shuttle).
September 9, 2011 4:06 PM - MontroseMorris
Yeah, benson, LiCaLa sounds like heaven on earth. It will be landmarked, of course.
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September 9, 2011 4:08 PM - DeadCatBounce
Cobble, sounds like you are doing a great job on your search. And enjoying it as well.
I will definitely come visit on my way home from work.
September 9, 2011 4:09 PM - MontroseMorris
Isn't that the station that looks like the Baths of Caracalla? I remember getting re-routed there once, and going "wow" who knew?

Or am I thinking of the one closer to Wall street? Is there one closer to Wall St.?
September 9, 2011 4:09 PM - cobblehiller
We're trying, DCB. The upside is that we'll likely end up with lower rent and more space! Location won't be as stellar, but for personal reasons nothing would be anyway.
September 9, 2011 4:10 PM - cobblehiller
I just can't believe how many loser brokers/ads there are without good photos!!
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September 9, 2011 4:11 PM - cobblehiller
In the day of the digital camera and websites, there's NO excuse for not having plenty of decent photos.
September 9, 2011 4:12 PM - Deleted
THere is a City Hall station that is highly ornate. However, it is currently not being used. You can only see it as the train passes through (I forgot which line).
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September 9, 2011 4:12 PM - cobblehiller
Hey Six, What are the good streets to look at/for in Kensington or Ditmas Park?
September 9, 2011 4:12 PM - DeadCatBounce
Taking action is always the right thing to do Cobble. And always involves compromise.
I drive through that area everyday, and see some really nice blocks.
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September 9, 2011 4:18 PM - Deleted
"What are the neighborhoods/areas you liked best, DH?"

As far as neigborhoods with "inexpensive" one bedrooms I liked Bed Stuy btw Marcy and Stuyvesant, south of Gates. Crown Heights (btw franklin and ny ave, closer to eastern parkway, although if you were in the north you'd be close to stuy heights amenities), residential areas of bushwick near maria hernandez park and ditmas park.

for me what ditmas park and bushwick had that trumped bed stuy/crown heights was better grocery stores and bars/restaurants. ditmas park may be too suburbany for you though. if i were you i'd just walk around everywhere all this weekend - it's supposed to be nice.
September 9, 2011 4:20 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Hey Cobble! pretty much anything between Coney Island Ave, Ocean Ave., Beverley and Newkirk, which puts you within walking distance of Cortelyou Road. The apartment stock in this area is pretty limited though, but I don't know the area on the other (east) side of the Q/B train that well. I think you can extend that to Ocean Parkway if you're between 18th Ave. and Avenue C (I'm on East 7th between Ditmas and Cortelyou). But it depends how far you're willing to walk to the F or B/Q and other amenities. Just don't get anything on Cortelyou itself, there's way too much noise from buses, trucks, and fire engines. You could also get something up by Church Ave or Fort Hamilton - not as "gentrified" but you'll definitely get more bang for your buck and you'll be within spitting distance of Prospect Park. That said...would love to have you and bh in my 'hood!
September 9, 2011 4:21 PM - DeadCatBounce
My plan to engage Bxgrl in a debate on the economy has apparently failed.
Foiled Again!
September 9, 2011 4:22 PM - Deleted
sixyears - who is your avatar?
September 9, 2011 4:23 PM - sixyearsandcounting
First person to figure out my avatar gets a beer at the next gathering, dh...only hint: think about my area of scholarly interest...
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September 9, 2011 4:25 PM - rf
The City Hall J station is beautiful! But covered in grime, really disgusting.
September 9, 2011 4:26 PM - bxgrl
It sucks to be you, DCB ;-)

(seriously joking!)
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September 9, 2011 4:27 PM - BoerumHillScott
To see the closed City Hall Station, stay on the downtown 6 train at Brooklyn Bridge, even though the announcements say to get off.
The train will go through the City Hall loop station, possibly wait in the tunnel, then stop at the uptown 6 platform at Brooklyn Bridge.
September 9, 2011 4:29 PM - rf
Hmm, DH, Bed-Stuy between Franklin and Marcy south of Gates is mostly lovely--mostly gorgeous brownstone blocks, and some decent new construction. Some crapola to be sure, and a few of the blocks between Putnam and Gates, not so hot. I am curious about why you cut off your recommendation east of Marcy.
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September 9, 2011 4:37 PM - Deleted
Have a good weekend all.
September 9, 2011 4:41 PM - Deleted
Rf I started on Nostrand and cut across Greene. So I can't speak to nostrand closer to Fulton. Did sort of a meandering route. Seems closer to Fulton overall is more desirable. But from what i saw west of nostrand on craigslist they try to get Clinton hill proximity rents
September 9, 2011 4:49 PM - cobblehiller
Thanks, DH & 6 Yrs. Great information! We'll definitely be hiking around this weekend.

I know the Cortelyou stop area a bit from when I was in HS and a bunch of friends lived in the area — in those giant victorians. Rugby/Stratford, etc.

BH just texted that Kosciusko is..."an area in transistion" and he's hunting for a cup of coffee before he sees the nice looking 1 bedroom with a little garden.
Edited at September 9, 2011 4:49 PM
September 9, 2011 4:50 PM - rf
I think most of the west-of-Marcy blocks are owner-occupied brownstoners and I know you didn't want a landlord in the building to cramp your style!
September 9, 2011 4:52 PM - Deleted
haha rf - yeah, fo sho!!

chiller - tell him to go to tiny cup cafe on nostrand and lafayette - but don't eat any of the pastries - i think they're all vegan!! yuck!!
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September 9, 2011 4:52 PM - rf
Yeah, an area of transition to be sure! I used to take the G train and I walked all of those blocks between Jefferson and Lafayette, between Marcy and Nostrand, changing every day to make it less boring. Huge variation!
September 9, 2011 4:56 PM - cobblehiller
DCB, We're taking action...slowly forming ideas about where we want to be and what we want/need and can spend. There's just a huge emotional component for me about possibly leaving this area. I'm having a hard time overcoming it.

Edited at September 9, 2011 4:56 PM
September 9, 2011 4:57 PM - sixyearsandcounting
cobble if you're in ditmas or kensington, let me know - mtm 74 at georgetown dot edu
September 9, 2011 4:59 PM - cobblehiller
Thanks, 6 yrs, would be great to see you and to chat about the neighborhood!
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September 9, 2011 5:14 PM - cobblehiller
BH ended up at, what he termed the "painfully hip", Bedford Hill Coffee Bar!
September 9, 2011 5:22 PM - rf
Cobble, that's right across the street from the Community Garden!
September 9, 2011 5:30 PM - rf
It is very new, like less than 6 months. Before that, probably not enough painfully hip patrons east of Classon.
September 9, 2011 5:31 PM - petebklyn
hi cobble. hello all. popping in for 2 minutes.
I think if I moved and looking for cheaper 'hood, I'd go to astoria. Don't kill me for saying it. but walking distance to midtown....neighborhood food shopping, some newer type eateries besides the ethnic stuff. very safe.
September 9, 2011 5:44 PM - Donatella
I like Astoria as well. That's a big cultural shift though, Pete.

I saw a rat staggering around on a train platform a few days ago. I couldn't tell if it had an injury to a leg, was rabid or if it was poisoned. I didn't want to know. If a rat bit me, I would freak out. City Hall is gorgeous compared to Fulton Street, which I think is a preview of hell.
September 9, 2011 5:44 PM - bxgrl
*Shriek!* Astoria?? Don't even think about it, cobble. We want you near us.
September 9, 2011 5:50 PM - denton
"In the day of the digital camera and websites, there's NO excuse for not having plenty of decent photos."

cobble, good interior photography not easy to do at all. Digital or no. You'd be surprised at how many thousands of dollars worth of equipment I took over to dibs. Also, used a fairly new technology called HDR to blend multiple images. All this technology costs more money besides the equipment and the field of photography is not all that lucrative.

Having said that, if you're selling a house in this area which will be in the six or seven figures, hire someone who can do it. On that level, I agree with you.
September 9, 2011 5:51 PM - cobblehiller
Astoria....Phhhht! Fuggeddaboutit! I'm a Brooklyn girl, Pete!
September 9, 2011 5:53 PM - cobblehiller
I'm not saying "selling a house worthy photos", denton. I'm saying any / more photos! Some of the photos are of 'a closet' or 3 angles of one room! LOL!
September 9, 2011 5:53 PM - denton
The markets were not down cuz of Obama's speech. Everyone already knew what was in it. The markets were down cuz a key ECB official suddenly stepped down, one who was a proponent of buying Eurozone bonds. It is becoming more clear that Germany is only willing to go so far and another official (also German) has stated today that cutting government spending is the only solution.
Edited at September 9, 2011 5:53 PM
September 9, 2011 5:54 PM - cobblehiller
"It is very new, like less than 6 months. Before that, probably not enough painfully hip patrons east of Classon."

He saw a woman with a double wide fancy make stroller and a Prius! Me thinks this neighb is no longer ... "in transition"!
Edited at September 9, 2011 5:54 PM
September 9, 2011 5:57 PM - rf
Kosciusko St. is not so close to the cafe! It starts at Bedford, between Lafayette and Dekalb. The cafe is at Greene and Franklin.
Edited at September 9, 2011 5:57 PM
September 9, 2011 6:00 PM - Deleted
"cobble, good interior photography not easy to do at all."

yeah - back in the day when i was trying to rent my room on craigslist i tried taking pictures with my pathetic digital camera. they looked like shit. it's hard to take a picture of a room surprisingly! dibs' look great, of course.
September 9, 2011 6:03 PM - cobblehiller
I'm not saying the photos in the ads I'm seeing are bad, believe me I don't think it's easy to get a 'good photo'. It's just that people aren't posting ENOUGH of them or in some cases — ANY! How do you pique interest with no photos? Or no photo of bath or kitchen or bedroom?
Edited at September 9, 2011 6:03 PM
September 9, 2011 6:03 PM - rf
Cobble, I know the G train meets your needs, but if you find a place near the Nostrand or Utica stops on the A, you can change for the G right across the platform at Hoyt-Schermerhorn, or for the F at Jay St. (but up and down to the other side). There are a gazillion A trains, like every 3 minutes. When we lived near the C in Clinton Hill, it was 2 stops closer to Jay St. but the trips go so much faster not having to wait for the C train.
September 9, 2011 6:05 PM - rf
Donatella, the part of the City Hall station where the J train stops is NOT the same as the 4-5-6 part. You have to walk through a tunnel and then down a gazillon steps into the cavern of gloom. Trust me, much, much worse than the Clinton Washington C station.
September 9, 2011 6:07 PM - cobblehiller
We are looking in Prospect Heights, and seems like A/C are closest in some spots. I'm not sold on it, even though a friend told me yesterday that she loves PH.
Edited at September 9, 2011 6:07 PM
September 9, 2011 6:08 PM - bxgrl
Denton- your photos were great. Dib's place looks beautiful - like a magazine spread.
Edited at September 9, 2011 6:08 PM
September 9, 2011 6:09 PM - cobblehiller
denton, Did you think I was criticizing your photos? NOT AT ALL!!
September 9, 2011 6:17 PM - Legion
Denton,
Don't listen to cobble,
those photos look great. ;o)
You practically got the entire room in a single shot.
September 9, 2011 6:21 PM - cobblehiller
legion!!! I WAS NOT criticizing denton's photos!! UGGHH!!

I'm talking about all these bad pix in the apt ads I'm looking at!
Edited at September 9, 2011 6:22 PM
September 9, 2011 6:28 PM - Legion
I know cobble!

That reminds me, I have to read through denton's series on digital photography this weekend.

Have a good weekend everyone.
Edited at September 9, 2011 6:28 PM
September 9, 2011 8:49 PM - Donatella
rf, I know where you mean now.......yes, the is very very groody.
September 9, 2011 10:41 PM - lechacal
How's tricks, humans? on the metro north home, enjoying an oil can of foster's.
September 9, 2011 11:05 PM - lechacal
I hate sloppy thinking. It's cancer. You know what I miss? SmShing pumpkins. Ooh do bs ferry, gotta go pretty soon. It's not hard to question everything and everyone and all assumptions. Why don't more people do it? Uh oh ardsley on Hudson better pack up bye.
Edited at September 9, 2011 11:04 PM
September 9, 2011 11:27 PM - Deleted
Smashing pumpkins? The band?
September 9, 2011 11:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
did you just get drunk off a can of fosters?!

*rob*