Thursday Open Thread
September 8, 2011 6:50 AM - BoerumHillScott

217 comments
September 8, 2011 6:51 AM - BoerumHillScott
My son starts 5th grade today, and also starts walking home from school by himself for the first time.
Edited at September 8, 2011 6:51 AM
#1
September 8, 2011 7:06 AM - dibs
My house flooded again.
#2
September 8, 2011 7:17 AM - denton
Which one?
Edited at September 8, 2011 7:17 AM
#3
September 8, 2011 7:18 AM - dibs
Bucks County
Edited at September 8, 2011 7:18 AM
#4
September 8, 2011 7:25 AM - Arkady
Dibs - So sorry!
#5
September 8, 2011 7:52 AM - dibs
Much more extensive damage this time to neighbors properties. About 2' of water in first floor. Getting the laborers over to clean out. Luckily power did not go off.
Edited at September 8, 2011 7:52 AM
#6
September 8, 2011 8:04 AM - cobblehiller
DIBS! Cripes!! Very sorry to hear this. : (
#7
September 8, 2011 8:07 AM - dibs
Drunken elk in Sweden. Apparently ate too many fermenting apples and got stuck in the tree.
Edited at September 8, 2011 8:07 AM
#8
September 8, 2011 8:08 AM - dibs
Worst part is that my neighbor was in contract to sell his house. I suspect that's not going to happen. Only good part is that they'll stay as neighbors.
#9
September 8, 2011 8:16 AM - Arkady
What about your own? When do you plan to leave the Cape?
#10
September 8, 2011 8:18 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
dave, i did not give you permission to put my drunk photos up on the web. now the world knows what i look like when schnockered!
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#11
September 8, 2011 8:18 AM - dibs
Leaving Sunday. Will probably stay Monday & Tuesday down there to clean up.
#12
September 8, 2011 8:19 AM - dibs
Snappy, I don't hang out with people of your elk.
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#13
September 8, 2011 8:20 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Oh, so you don't hang out with us? Dave, you have standards now? Who gnu?
#14
September 8, 2011 8:21 AM - Arkady
Ahh! A pun! Moosic to my eyes! You're a real deer.
#15
September 8, 2011 8:30 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Arkady, have you had enough of all this reindeer? I know you hate it so.
#16
September 8, 2011 8:37 AM - Arkady
Yes, we've had absolutely staggering downpours!
#17
September 8, 2011 8:41 AM - dibs
I'm just dreading a call from the marina now that the bilge pump has stopped working in the boat! Still raining VERY hard here.
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#18
September 8, 2011 8:41 AM - Arkady
Can't you run a sump pump instead as a temporary measure?!
#19
September 8, 2011 8:43 AM - dibs
The bilge will work as long as it doesn't drain the battery down. That didn't seem to be a problem two days ago when we got 3-4" of rain then, so fingers crossed.
#20
September 8, 2011 8:45 AM - Arkady
Oh, I read your post wrong. Thought it had stopped running & you were awaiting the disaster faun call from the marina.
#21
September 8, 2011 8:45 AM - dibs
A bilge pump is a sump pump. You seem to be in over your head with your knowledge of boats. Maybe I can paddle some sense into you
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#22
September 8, 2011 8:47 AM - dibs
Rain about to stop here shortly according to the map.
#23
September 8, 2011 8:48 AM - dibs
All this weather makes for a very boaring day
#24
September 8, 2011 9:10 AM - dibs
From this weekend's shootings.....

"Several officers confronted Mr. Webster, who officials said ignored their orders and fired at them. Eight officers returned fire in two distinct volleys firing 73 bullets and striking Mr. Webster twice, in his chest and hip."

I'm definitely in favor of the shoot to kill policy but it would seem that the NYPD needs some training in marksmanship.

In addition they didn't kill this POS and he's probably going to be out in short order.
Edited at September 8, 2011 9:14 AM
#25
September 8, 2011 9:18 AM - Arkady
You have a hard roe to hoe, dibs. If the pumps don't work you'll have to carry buck-ets.
#26
September 8, 2011 9:21 AM - More4Less
wow DIBS, so this time off is like 2 weeks plus? you now working at a government unionized gig?
#27
September 8, 2011 9:26 AM - dibs
Always working, always thinking, always watching the markets, m4l. That's the difference between a Republican and a Democrat, a non-union and a union guy.
#28
September 8, 2011 9:27 AM - DeLepp
I'll admit there are some fun puns this morning.
Dibs, sorry to hear about Bucks. Hope it cleans easily. Been driving all over Jersey last couple of days and the desctruction in Passaic/Morris Cnty is terrible.
#29
September 8, 2011 9:29 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
was there a ginormous thunderstorm last night of tornado like proporptions? i woke up twice in the middle of the night sleepwalking, both times walking into the living room mumbling then screaming and waking myself up in the middle of it in a totally strange state where i wasnt really awake but i remember it so i wasnt totally asleep. my roommate must think im a complete psychopath! tho he does know i have a bit of a sleep walking / talking/screaming problem at times. ugh. i wish there was a way to cure this. when i was 13 i walked right out of the apartment and right into TRAFFIC half asleep!!!!! so ive had this problem for a long time. my grandmother told me when i would sleep walk i was very combative too. grr


*rob*



#30
September 8, 2011 9:34 AM - Deleted
fashion week sucks my ballsack
#31
September 8, 2011 9:37 AM - dibs
Jealous of all those girlish figures, dh????
#32
September 8, 2011 9:39 AM - Deleted
DIBS;

Sorry to hear about your house.

Westchester County is also getting hit hard. Yesterday and today, three main north-south roads were shut down due to flooding: the Hutch, the Bronx River and the Sprain.
#33
September 8, 2011 9:40 AM - dibs
Lots of roads throughout MA are closed.
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#34
September 8, 2011 9:42 AM - Deleted
yeah - 16 year old stick figures are awesome
Edited at September 8, 2011 9:42 AM
#35
September 8, 2011 9:43 AM - More4Less
commute into NJ has been shitty. tons of accidents. worst time as kiddies are back in school already - ie increased traffic on road
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#36
September 8, 2011 9:43 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
are they sticks? most of the models look fat this year.

*rob*

#37
September 8, 2011 9:44 AM - Deleted
not ours - maybe lane bryant is in your office?
#38
September 8, 2011 9:44 AM - More4Less
GM Mr T
#39
September 8, 2011 9:44 AM - Deleted
yo m4l
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#40
September 8, 2011 9:52 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
heh. we dont get many models wandering into our office. we did get al gore accidently wandering in once and i totally pwned him in front of everyone hahaha

*rob*



Edited at September 8, 2011 9:52 AM
#41
September 8, 2011 9:54 AM - Deleted
What does Al Gore have to do with models?
Edited at September 8, 2011 9:54 AM
#42
September 8, 2011 9:54 AM - Donatella
Next Monday and Tuesday, no rain in the forecast. But it is supposed to rain everyday till then. Sorry about Bucks Dibs. I woke up to the sound of driving rain, which is now the stuff of nightmares for me. (I always wondered how people could find those plug in waterfalls relaxing.) Luckily, the repairs seem to be ok.
#43
September 8, 2011 9:54 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
ew, looking at the previews for fashion week... why arent those fugly ass frumpty dumpy hideously patterned sundress/moomoo type dressoing going away? SO ugly. WOMEN (AND MEN i guess) YOU LOOKED LIKE SHYTE ON A CRACKER THIS PAST SUMMER!!!

(and yes i KNOW im not one to talk, but i still feel like i can give my overall opinion how shitty everyone (all the try-hards) looked this summer!

*rob*

#44
September 8, 2011 9:56 AM - Deleted
The thing I hate most about fashion shows is the look on the models' faces as they walk down the runway.
#45
September 8, 2011 9:58 AM - Deleted
yeha benson - i always expect to see a trail of turds behind them
#46
September 8, 2011 9:58 AM - rf
DIBS, it looks like a police bullet killed the innocent bystandar--a woman killed while sitting on her stoop.
#47
September 8, 2011 10:00 AM - rf
Scott, was your son scared or excited or both? My daughter was thrilled to get back to school, so she could see all her friends of course. Many wardrobe changes this morning, even though she thought she had decided last night.
#48
September 8, 2011 10:01 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
youre not supposed to be looking at their facial expressions hahahah, isnt that the point? they do look constipated tho. ooooh this season coming up of america's top model is an all star cast!! which is nuts cuz so many on that show start out already so old and now they have people from the last 10 seasons come back to try again!? huh?
some of them are already 30!

*rob*

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#49
September 8, 2011 10:04 AM - DeLepp
File in "what in the world is going on":
http://tinyurl.com/3pgocxr
Mankini on front page of WSJ digital today.
#50
September 8, 2011 10:10 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
DIBS, it looks like a police bullet killed the innocent bystandar--a woman killed while sitting on her stoop.

ugh. great. so does that mean riots are to come?

*rob*

#51
September 8, 2011 10:16 AM - Arkady
WSJ can't report on phone hacking & has to fill the infotainment space w/ something.
#52
September 8, 2011 10:16 AM - Donatella
Scary, Delepp. I know I'D walk in the other direction....
#53
September 8, 2011 10:18 AM - Donatella
Yes, Arkady, the tiny WSJ coverage of the voicemail intrusions was buried in the middle of the paper.
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#54
September 8, 2011 10:19 AM - Deleted
One of the reasons I don't like going to the beach is that for every beautiful person who wears a sexy outfit, there are five ugly, out-of-shape people who think they're the bomb wearing a skimpy outfit.
#55
September 8, 2011 10:21 AM - Deleted
The WSJ featured the phone-hacking scandal on page 1 -at least the version that I received.

.
#56
September 8, 2011 10:21 AM - DeLepp
benson, one reason I wear glasses instead of contacts, can take them off easily and the world is a blur.
#57
September 8, 2011 10:27 AM - Donatella
I read this blog without my glasses.
#58
September 8, 2011 10:28 AM - dibs
Yes...saw that about the woman on the stoop. Still inconlusive but points to the cops shooting her.

Just went out to the boat and made sure the battery was fine. Lots of smaller boats getting bailed out.

About 5 miles down cape it's sunny and the roads are dry!!!!!!
Edited at September 8, 2011 10:28 AM
#59
September 8, 2011 10:31 AM - Arkady
dona - Good piece in today's Times about roofs:
http://tinyurl.com/3eyek2l
#60
September 8, 2011 10:32 AM - Deleted
A co-worker of mine who lives in Putnam county just arrived at the office. She says that her town (Carmel) now resembles a Louisiana bayou.
#61
September 8, 2011 10:34 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Anyone watch last nights debate? Perry basically lost the election with his Ponzi scheme comments. What a moron, I mean who does he think votes in the republican primary, 23 year old conservatives or 67 year old retired grandmas on social security.....good riddance.
#62
September 8, 2011 10:39 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
no debate watching for me ZZZZZZ. but im sad, rachel did not win house of household on big brother last night :(

*rob*

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#63
September 8, 2011 10:39 AM - DeLepp
I was up in Carmel for a wedding last year, it was indeed swampy. Poor folks.
#64
September 8, 2011 10:40 AM - Deleted
yeah randi - what a putz
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#65
September 8, 2011 10:43 AM - BoerumHillScott
My son was mostly excited about school, but also nervous/worried. School does not come easy to him and he is worried about how much harder 5th grade will be than 4th.

Wendy is worried about him walking to and from there by himself, but I think he is more than ready.
#66
September 8, 2011 10:45 AM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: I wish Ron Paul got more media attention. For some reason he is just ignored.
#67
September 8, 2011 10:58 AM - Donatella
That was a great article on roofs, Arkady. Thanks. It reinforces what I have learned from this experience. Water is the enemy and there are many things that can go wrong. It requires some basic knowledge, getting up on the roof to OBSERVE (something I have avoided) and understanding basic repairs. I do need a roof but that was not my main problem. It was the tipping of the gutters (probably from all the snow and ice) and the need for masonry caulking under the gutters. I simply cannot afford to assume that things are ok because somebody told me so.
#68
September 8, 2011 11:02 AM - dibs
Update from Bucks County...people down Fleecydale Road are being taken out by boat. Any road that has a creek running under it is toast. The delaware will probably not crest until tomorrow at the earliest and is already in Lambertville. All bridges closed.
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#69
September 8, 2011 11:08 AM - Deleted
Cautionary tale from my neighbor in Carmel...

....she had her roof replaced last year, and it came with a warranty from the contractor. It is leaking in all these rains. Allstate came to look at the damage. Because the roof has a warranty, they will not pay for its repair - said that she has to pursue that with the roofer. They only reimbursed her for the damage to the sheetrock - a whooping $167. Moral of the story: make sure your roofer truly does have the wherewithal to stand behind his work.

I really feel bad for this woman. Her husband has been unemployed for 3 years. They are broke and are trying to sell their house. A tough sell, because there are already 5 homes for sale on her block, and now this new headache. Finally, she has a child with autism. She's really got it rough.
#70
September 8, 2011 11:11 AM - Donatella
I am afraid to find out the news from my friend in Patterson. SHe had the Passaic in her living room. Her son told me that it is a toxic dump in there between mold and whatever waste was in that water. She is getting money from FEMA and her insurance to rebuild the place and staying with a friend. But it is a Sisyphean task though; everytime there is some major storm, she gets flooded. She even was evaculated by boat once. No way can she sell the place. All her neighbors are in the same boat, uh, no pun intended.
#71
September 8, 2011 11:15 AM - DeLepp
DIBS, sister said they started evacuations at 3AM.
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#72
September 8, 2011 11:19 AM - dibs
My neighbor ( the one with the white house on the corner whose property runs behind mine) just went into contract to sell his house and I bet that's off now. They just wanted to downsize and actually made an offer on a place around the corner on Aquetong...a few doors away from the General Store
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#73
September 8, 2011 11:19 AM - Deleted
nature is scary shit
#74
September 8, 2011 11:24 AM - dibs
dh, I watched my property flood in 2002 where it never came into the house and that was scary. I can't begin to imagine what it was like last night there...the water was up to the windowsills and it's moving at 60 mph or so and carrying ALL sorts of debris with it including tree trunks that are 20" in diameter
#75
September 8, 2011 11:27 AM - Deleted
terrifying dibs. good luck with the clean up.

changing gears a bit

are you really putting ur stuy place on the market next week?
#76
September 8, 2011 11:29 AM - Deleted
"Nature must not win the game, but she cannot lose"
#77
September 8, 2011 11:30 AM - GortFromPlanetX
Sorry to hear about everyones flooding problems that is truly scary!

The time, energy and money needed for repair I can't even imagine...
#78
September 8, 2011 11:31 AM - dibs
Yup....the listing will be here tomorrow.
#79
September 8, 2011 11:33 AM - Deleted
damn - good luck!!
#80
September 8, 2011 11:34 AM - Deleted
i hope the new owners don't screw over your current tenants - who were lovely. :-\
Edited at September 8, 2011 11:34 AM
#81
September 8, 2011 11:35 AM - dibs
"here" meaning brownstoner
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#82
September 8, 2011 11:35 AM - Deleted
I miss Jackal. This time last year our drunken asses mistakenly went to a fashion week party at glasslands where skinny boys in pink underwear were dancing in plastic bubbles.
#83
September 8, 2011 11:36 AM - dibs
I agree. If they succumb to the belief that they'll get a higher rent and decent tenants if they force them out, they will be making a big mistake!!!
Edited at September 8, 2011 11:36 AM
#84
September 8, 2011 11:37 AM - dibs
"skinny boys in pink underwear were dancing in plastic bubbles."

Ewwwwwww on the skinny part.
#85
September 8, 2011 11:38 AM - Deleted
i'm sure you've already scouted out competitor bldgs on the market? anything comparable out there?
Edited at September 8, 2011 11:38 AM
#86
September 8, 2011 11:41 AM - dibs
No comps out there. Only 3 bldgs on brownstoner and they aren't comparable. Need to check NY Times and list there but last time I looked there were some that had been on for over a year so not sure what's up with them.
#87
September 8, 2011 11:44 AM - Donatella
Dibs, I think I missed this....but are you saying you are putting your brownstone on the market?? You were saying something about Denton taking pictures.....
#88
September 8, 2011 11:50 AM - minard lafever
Dave, will your bed stuy house be "house of the day" tomorrow?
Boy oh boy, we get to make comments on the decor and the counter top?


#89
September 8, 2011 11:52 AM - dibs
Minard, you jackass, there is never a HOTD on Friday. Even rob knows that.

Yes, Dona.
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#90
September 8, 2011 11:57 AM - dibs
Here you go Minard.....

http://www.pbase.com/dentontay/brownstone
#91
September 8, 2011 12:02 PM - Deleted
u doing FSBO dibs?
#92
September 8, 2011 12:03 PM - dibs
Yes, dh. But will co-op with brokers.
#93
September 8, 2011 12:04 PM - Deleted
DIBS;

Where will you live for your remaining time in NYC?
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#94
September 8, 2011 12:07 PM - dibs
Benson, if I do stay and don't just retire I'll get an apt in my same neighborhood.
#95
September 8, 2011 12:08 PM - dibs
There's actually a very nice one listed by owner now on brownstoner not far from me and it has yard access and W/D...both hard to find
#96
September 8, 2011 12:08 PM - MontroseMorris
Looks great, Dave. Are you doing a FSBO?
#97
September 8, 2011 12:09 PM - MontroseMorris
Whoops, didn't see that DH said that already.
#98
September 8, 2011 12:11 PM - Kensingtonian
Interview with Mr. B on apartmenttherapy was actually pretty cool. Here is the link for the video stream. Nothing to do with design, just his life story pretty much. I do give this guy a lot of props eventhough I am not crazy about his shunning of the OT decision. Apperently that's not the only bad decision he made in life lol.

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/ny-design-meetup/jonathan-butler-of-brownstoner-brooklyn-flea-9711-apartment-therapy-design-evenings-155429


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#99
September 8, 2011 12:12 PM - minard lafever
very nice Dave.
the interior was restored beautifully.
kudos.
(although you're still a jackass)
September 8, 2011 12:13 PM - dibs
:P Minard
September 8, 2011 12:14 PM - minard lafever
Dave, have you had anyone look at the staining on the front facade? Looks like a little water penetration, maybe the brownstone masonry needs repointing? It looks in otherwise good condition.


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September 8, 2011 12:16 PM - Donatella
It looks beautiful, Dave. I like the way the features are organized in the pictures. Denton did a good job. I really don't think there are many move right in places out there for sale if the other neighborhoods are any guide. I pay attention to what is on the market here in Ft. Greene and Clinton Hill and it's slim pickings. I think you will get a lot of interest.
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September 8, 2011 12:21 PM - dibs
Minard...the brownstone is fine. I had it repaired where it was necessary and that's why it looks blotchy, having left what didn't need to be repaired alone.
September 8, 2011 12:30 PM - dibs
Google bought Zagat, price not disclosed.
Edited at September 8, 2011 12:30 PM
September 8, 2011 12:31 PM - Deleted
people still read zagat?
Edited at September 8, 2011 12:31 PM
September 8, 2011 12:35 PM - dibs
>100,000 mandatory evacuation in NE Pennsylvania.

Town of Binghamton NY is "closed."
September 8, 2011 12:38 PM - Arkady
My sister in law missed being flooded in Binghamton so far by one house.
September 8, 2011 12:39 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
can't you turn it into an SRO and make a profit every month? real old school SRO's are sorely lacking in quantity these days, which is actually kind of sad cuz they usually attract truly interesting types of people, not faux artists with allowances pretending to slum it, some people have to slum it for real and SROs is good for that.

*rob*

September 8, 2011 12:40 PM - Arkady
She just bought the house last month. Lives in the country in a house she & my brother built by hand during most of the year but is getting too old to be comfie on dirt roads in winter so got a place in town.
Edited at September 8, 2011 12:40 PM
September 8, 2011 12:46 PM - More4Less
DIBS, good luck man. be weary of freaking bank appraisals trying to screw you over.
September 8, 2011 12:54 PM - dibs
Not going to accept any offers with a 90% mortgage contingency.
Edited at September 8, 2011 12:54 PM
September 8, 2011 12:56 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: 7 comments total on bstoner.
Edited at September 8, 2011 12:56 PM
September 8, 2011 1:01 PM - More4Less
DIBS, not 90%. rather to find someone willing and able to do 75% to 70% finance as remedy to low ass appraisal is for seller to put more down (ie as I dont foresee you cutting price to sync up with that stupid appraisal). been hearing more incidents of banks pulling this appraisal bs in Stuy, Crown, and other non-Primo hoods
Edited at September 8, 2011 1:01 PM
September 8, 2011 1:09 PM - Slopefarm
"skinny boys in pink underwear were dancing in plastic bubbles."

Surely, there's an acronym somewhere we can assign to dh today.

Hi, all, sorry I missed the chance to faun all over your punfest this morning. Sorry to hear about all the flooding and damage in Bucks Co. and elsewhere. A ton of rain.
Dibs, will the, um, art collection be on view for prospective buyers?


Edited at September 8, 2011 1:09 PM
September 8, 2011 1:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
been hearing more incidents of banks pulling this appraisal bs in Stuy, Crown, and other non-Primo hoods

uh, it's called coming back to reality when it comes what homes should cost in "non-primo hoods". sorry, but million dollar houses should NEVER have been in some areas!

*rob*

Edited at September 8, 2011 1:15 PM
September 8, 2011 1:16 PM - More4Less
sure sure rob whatever you say man
September 8, 2011 1:18 PM - Donatella

My appraisal was off market last year. I was checking comps but unfortunately there weren't a lot, but I don't think the comps they used were really comps. They were over by Myrtle Avenue, which is not comparable to being by lovely Fulton Street. The rates are low, but the with the banks......the pendulum has gone the othe way.

Random You Tube Video - Woman brownstone owner trying to get on her roof through the hatch. They left out the good part where she has to swing her ass over the hatch but her reaction is like mine, only I am much braver and do it by myself. (rolling eyes). My roof is better than that one BTW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGu5fNLyeMo
Edited at September 8, 2011 1:18 PM
September 8, 2011 1:18 PM - Deleted
Rob is filling in for The What today!!
September 8, 2011 1:23 PM - More4Less
too bad rob doesn't like Queens. there are a few hoods I see him liking and rents a lot lower
Edited at September 8, 2011 1:23 PM
September 8, 2011 1:24 PM - GortFromPlanetX
LOL Donna that is a random piece of video! I wonder why they were filming her.

I remember feeling that way too going to the roof it was the edge of the world.
September 8, 2011 1:31 PM - Deleted
One summer my brother and I helped my father replace the tar paper on our flat roof. I am amazed to think about how closely we stood on the edge of the roof as we worked. My father trusted us to take caution.
September 8, 2011 1:33 PM - Donatella
Gort, I have made new resolutions about going up on the roof regularly. I am getting a new hatch so I can open it more easily. I am convinced I could have avoided this mess I just went through if I were checking the roof periodically.
Edited at September 8, 2011 1:33 PM
September 8, 2011 1:34 PM - rf
Rob just wants to protect his primo neighborhood from the wannabe promo nabes.
September 8, 2011 1:35 PM - Donatella
As Legion was saying yesterday, it is best to keep a low center of gravity working near the edges of the roof. He lies on his stomach. I was looking at the gutters with the roofers. Not standing...kneeling. Don't want to fall but also need to get over this hesitation to go up there too.
Edited at September 8, 2011 1:35 PM
September 8, 2011 1:38 PM - Arkady
It's odd but I feel less nervous looking over the back of my house from the roof than I do looking over the street side. Back tilts down so actually more precarious.
September 8, 2011 1:38 PM - dibs
House PORN in the HOTD

http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2011/09/house-of-the-day-181-washington-park/#disqus_thread
September 8, 2011 1:39 PM - GortFromPlanetX
Gaaaak!!! Roof work Benson I just hate it, have had to help my family a few time with it dirty messy work.

Dona I think you are right checking it often is smart, I certainly can understand why people try to just put it out of their minds though.
Edited at September 8, 2011 1:39 PM
September 8, 2011 1:41 PM - dibs
Arkady, do you ever feel like jumping off???
September 8, 2011 1:42 PM - dibs
Sun is out in Provincetown!!!!
Edited at September 8, 2011 1:42 PM
September 8, 2011 1:46 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
ugh ever pull a ghetto move then completely regret (well moreso just feel stupid about it?)

*rob*

Edited at September 8, 2011 1:46 PM
September 8, 2011 1:47 PM - Arkady
No, dibs. If I had a slide, I'd do it. About the same height as the water slides at Dorney.
We've had sun for a couple of hours but radio keeps saying it'll be short-lived.
September 8, 2011 1:49 PM - Deleted
Gort;

What made roof work worse is that my father always picked a hot blazing day to do it. It made sense since it was easier to work the tar, but nonetheless it made for a brutal day. The tar clean-up took half-an-hour.
September 8, 2011 1:50 PM - dibs
Depends, rob, what was the move??? Steal something from the bodega again???
September 8, 2011 1:51 PM - BoerumHillScott
One of the worst aspects of home ownership while not having money is roof work.
In our first house I had to do some shingle replacement on the two story roof, and I hated it.
September 8, 2011 1:54 PM - dibs
Roof work is best left to professionals and their crew of illegal immigrants. The latter keep the prices down.
Edited at September 8, 2011 1:54 PM
September 8, 2011 1:57 PM - GortFromPlanetX
Benson me too! It is hot as blazes on the roof when the sun is out midday. Tar certainly works better when hot though.
I always try to work with it neatly but family members always end up getting all over themselves and the tools making it worse!
September 8, 2011 1:58 PM - More4Less
so many lawns have that rice paddie look as they have a nice pool of water over them
September 8, 2011 1:58 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
when i first got my dog there was a party going on on the roof of my building and i decided oh wouldnt it be fun to bring my dog up here? so i went down and got him. UGH! i was terrified but everyone else was laughing their asses off cuz my dog kept running away from everyone (well moreso making them chase him, and he'd go right to the very very edge of the roof!!!!! this was overlooking the concrete 5 stories high!) i was so scared, finally was able to lure him back off the roof after like an hour of him being a dick!!

*rob*

September 8, 2011 2:02 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
too bad rob doesn't like Queens. there are a few hoods I see him liking and rents a lot lower

who said i dont like queens? there's nothing wrong with it. also, i dont do the 7 train, sorry, especially for a commute.

*rob*

September 8, 2011 2:07 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Depends, rob, what was the move??? Steal something from the bodega again???

no lol i have never stolen anything from the bodega (well except for like 5 packs of cigarettes i had on credit that i never paid back when i lived on the LES, but that's not really stealing, it's more like not paying your mortgage or something). i feel ghetto cuz im working this saturday and i asked if i could be paid ahead of time instead of on monday. (cuz we dont get paid til monday). i had to put on my rent is due face for it tho, and i hate when i have to use my rent is due face.

*rob*

September 8, 2011 2:07 PM - dibs
Dogs know better than to jump off of a roof, rob.
Edited at September 8, 2011 2:07 PM
September 8, 2011 2:19 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
yeah i kinda thought so, but why was he taunting people by running toward the edge like that? cats are pretty stupid tho, they are always jumping out of windows and off roofs!

*rob*

September 8, 2011 2:22 PM - Deleted
if dogs were so smart they'd be able to poop in a box
Edited at September 8, 2011 2:22 PM
September 8, 2011 2:23 PM - More4Less
Queue the cat defenders. 10, 9, 8,.....
September 8, 2011 2:30 PM - MontroseMorris
I think DH summed it up quite well, M4L.
Edited at September 8, 2011 2:30 PM
September 8, 2011 2:42 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
if dogs were so smart they'd be able to poop in a box

that's f'ing GROSS. i wouldnt want my dogs feces lingering in my apartment in a sandbox. ICK :-/ humans at least have toilets, they flush and poop is gone. with cats they poop in a sandbox IN YOUR HOUSE and it just lingers there until someone scoops it out. and i KNOW 99.% perfect of cat owners do NOT scoop out their poop and pee balls everytime their cat goes. they let it linger, for days, sometimes weeks! that's like not wiping your ass

*rob*

September 8, 2011 2:43 PM - Donatella
I have had fun in my life on roofs, but most of it was in my early 20s. Near where I was living in Staten Island before I grew up and moved to Manhattan, there is a place called Moravian Cemetery, beautiful sort of like Greenwood. There was a way to get in at night and we climbed to the top of a mausoleum with a nice roof and drank wine. Yes, I had no fear whatsoever of falling even when drunk (ish) nor did I have any trouble getting down. I also used to drink with friends on the roof of the house I rented. Of course, I only had to climb out my bedroom window for that. I used to rollerblade in traffic too.
Edited at September 8, 2011 2:43 PM
September 8, 2011 2:48 PM - Donatella
I decided if I ever got a cat again, I would empty and wash out and refill the cat litter box daily. I think if you do that, you don't have any smell. The only bad thing is that cats do wierd things. Sometimes they like to scratch stuff, they always shed, and they have a distressing habit of eating strange things and throwing up in inconvenient places. One of my cats used to jump on my bookcases and do little tap tap tap on my china stuff until he knocked it off its shelf and broke it. I have some Chinese antique ceramics. He did this to a Sung dynasty bowl I had.
Edited at September 8, 2011 2:48 PM
September 8, 2011 2:57 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
dogs are no better sometimes. when i first got my dog he tore apart my ENTIRE f'ing bag collection. tore the straps off them, ripped anything that was appliqued on them, etc, giant mess, almost NONE of my bags were salvageable, and some of them were VERY expensive. He also chewed up my glasses once.


*rob*

September 8, 2011 3:00 PM - More4Less
bag collection and some were very expensive???? were you a moonface then?
September 8, 2011 3:02 PM - Donatella
When I was a teenager, we got an Irish Setter. Sean. He was beautiful, but a complete psycho. He got into my closet once and chewed up every pair of shoes I had. There were a lot of Sean stories. He was a total maniac. I think he was inbred.
September 8, 2011 3:02 PM - MontroseMorris
Rob, those are your anal issues, not everyone else's.

Most people clean out the cat box once a day, most definitely, but usually more, and we've all survived quite well, cat and human.

I think walking down the street with a fresh bag of poop is a lot worse than cleaning a sand filled litterbox.
Edited at September 8, 2011 3:02 PM
September 8, 2011 3:03 PM - More4Less
Donatella, I thought you were talking about an Irish hottie back then.
September 8, 2011 3:04 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Rob, dogs eat their own shit. Cats are obsessively clean. End of story.
September 8, 2011 3:05 PM - Donatella
MM, when I had my cats, I would attempt to clean "UP" the box everyday, but I didn't completely empty the contents and refill it with new litter. That is what I would do now. IF I got a cat. I was so heartbroken when I lost my cats. My beloved Aldo in Kansas City and psycho Pippie shortly after I returned. I was devastated. When CGar was so sad about his dog I understood completely. With Aldo, I couldn't eat for 2 days. That's saying something.
Edited at September 8, 2011 3:05 PM
September 8, 2011 3:06 PM - minard lafever
my dog has issues.
we had a dog whisperer in to try to help.
Now we are trying something called "rescue remedy"
anyone heard of it?

September 8, 2011 3:08 PM - Donatella
HAHA, M4L, you thought I went out with a psycho Irishman named Sean who chewed up my shoes??????!!!???? haha...
September 8, 2011 3:08 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Rob, those are your anal issues, not everyone else's.

LOL look at MM, now she's Dr. Sigmund Freud!

quote:
bag collection and some were very expensive???? were you a moonface then?

lol, no, I just liked having lots of bags to match outfits at the time. now i could care less. and "expensive" is relative.. my most expensive bag was no more than like 60 bux as opposed to only free bags i find on the street these days or at stoop sales.

quote:
I think walking down the street with a fresh bag of poop is a lot worse than cleaning a sand filled litterbox.

that doesnt even make sense. it's not like the poop is LINGERING IN ONE'S HOME!!!!! it goes into a PLASTIC bag that takes one second, then immediately tossed into people like Mr.B's trash cans!

*rob*

September 8, 2011 3:10 PM - minard lafever
I have to agree with Rob that keeping the poop entirely out of the house is a better approach.

Edited at September 8, 2011 3:10 PM
September 8, 2011 3:10 PM - Donatella
No, but I love Cesar from Dog Whisperer. What does your dog do, Minard?
My sister has two minature Yorkies. One 2 1/2 lbs, his brother is 5 pounds. The
little one is the Alpha dog if you can believe it. He thinks he is a brute.
Edited at September 8, 2011 3:10 PM
September 8, 2011 3:10 PM - MontroseMorris
Donatella, from a purely financial standpoint, putting in completely new litter every day is going to get really expensive. If you get the good stuff, and scoop it as warranted, there really is no need to completely change it out every day. 80% is perfectly good for reuse.

But I'm sure your kitty will think he/she scored a superior human.
September 8, 2011 3:12 PM - Deleted
When we adopted our latest dog from a shelter, she had some adaptation issues. My wife hired a trainer who was recommended by our vet. At one point, the trainer asked that I be present for a session, so that he could teach me how to handle her. As we were walking ther dog in the park, he was giving me tips on understanding the psychology of the dog. We then started to chat about ourselves, and I learned that Mr. Dog Psychology had just been thrown out by his wife, and she had the court issue an Order of Protection which barred him from being within a certain distance of her!!!
September 8, 2011 3:13 PM - MontroseMorris
Rob, you gave your opinion, I gave mine. Why make a battle of it? Not doing that today with you.

Edited at September 8, 2011 3:13 PM
September 8, 2011 3:14 PM - minard lafever
My dog is very good in many ways. Very house broken would never do anything inside, does not chew or destroy things, does not shed, but he is nervous and will snap at people. roller skaters especially. Hates the idea of people on wheels, they should not be on wheels!!
He is also not crazy about luggage on wheels.

September 8, 2011 3:15 PM - Deleted
Minard;
Are we talking Westie here? If so, you have just about described every Westie that ever lived. They hate the sound of wheels turning.
September 8, 2011 3:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
If you get the good stuff, and scoop it as warranted, there really is no need to completely change it out every day.

*faints*
so youre telling me it gets rid of residual poo mist, just like that? color me chary. if such a product existed on the market there's be an inch thick layer of cat litter in my own bathroom, scattered wall to wall and changed daily.

*rob*

Edited at September 8, 2011 3:16 PM
September 8, 2011 3:20 PM - MontroseMorris
Just leave it alone, rob. OK?

Cat owners are satisfied with the arrangement, we don't have to walk our dogs in the blizzard, in the dark, while running a temperature of 103, no matter what. It's a decent trade off.
Edited at September 8, 2011 3:20 PM
September 8, 2011 3:24 PM - minard lafever
The "rescue remedy" is an organic scent made from flowers that is supposed to relax animals, especially dogs.

Edited at September 8, 2011 3:24 PM
September 8, 2011 3:26 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
we don't have to walk our dogs in the blizzard, in the dark, while running a temperature of 103

neither do we!!! that's what dog walkers are for. do they even have a service where people come and scoop up your cat poo?

*rob*

September 8, 2011 3:29 PM - minard lafever
rob, you are sounding very bourgeois. A dog walker? well well.
September 8, 2011 3:30 PM - BoerumHillScott
I have no pets, and am therefore superior to all of you who have animal owners.


September 8, 2011 3:31 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i admit i can be pretty bousgie once in a while.

*rob*

Edited at September 8, 2011 3:31 PM
September 8, 2011 3:32 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I have no pets, and am therefore superior to all of you who have animal owners.

uh, you have a kid. those are worse than pets. they NEVER go away!

*rob*

September 8, 2011 3:37 PM - MontroseMorris
Oh, spare me, please, rob. There are worst tasks in the world than scooping up cat litter.
September 8, 2011 3:39 PM - minard lafever
scott, as the kids get older they will extort and connive their way to a pet. rest assured.

September 8, 2011 3:39 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Rob and MM, you need to stop. You sound like children.

To each his or her own. OK?
September 8, 2011 3:41 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
lol we're fighting over poop

*rob*

September 8, 2011 3:42 PM - MontroseMorris
Fine with me, Randolph.
Edited at September 8, 2011 3:42 PM
September 8, 2011 3:42 PM - Donatella
Montrose, my cats definitely scored with me. And I scored with them. One of them was awesome. Aldo. Such a handsome athlete. He was white and very long, had yellow/green eyes. The other one was white and blue-eyed, female and deaf. Very crazy and neurotic but after Aldo died, I fell in love with her just as much, or more. Aldo lived till 20, Pippie till 18.
September 8, 2011 3:43 PM - Deleted
was just out for a smoke break - witnessed a dog owner picking up a loose runny cainine bowel movement

maybe dogs are smarter - they have managed to get an animal higher up the food chain to follow them around and pick up their shit.
September 8, 2011 3:48 PM - BoerumHillScott
Ha, our son asks off and on for a pet, but they are not allowed under our current lease.
We had a cat in the distant past and Rabbit for a while.

I'm just not a pet person.

Edited at September 8, 2011 3:48 PM
September 8, 2011 3:48 PM - Deleted
I want to know who coined the terms "Working like a dog" and "It's a dog's life". As far as I can see, most dogs don't work that hard, and they have a very good life.
Edited at September 8, 2011 3:48 PM
September 8, 2011 3:48 PM - minard lafever
I think most dogs believe people are nice to them and feed them because they treasure their poop.

September 8, 2011 3:48 PM - GortFromPlanetX
Minard Yes I have! Homeopathic remedies.
I had a friend who had a bird the bird was pulling out all of its feathers very neurotic. She started putting a few drops of rescue remedy in the birds water and within a week or so the bird stopped. So hopefully it will work for your dog too.
September 8, 2011 3:50 PM - Donatella
That is funny how some animals have phobias. My deaf cat was super sensitive to visual stimuli since she was deaf, I guess. I actually had hand signals that she would respond to. I would wiggle my hand a certain way, then pick her up and pet her and then feed her. So it got to be that even into her old age, she would see my wiggle my hand even a little and she would tear like a bat out of hell over to me. She was afraid of everyone but me, unfortunately. She was terrified of overhead fans. If I turned it on, she would shake and go crazy. I couldn't do it with her around. She would also go berserk with the lights of cars casting their shadows on the walls as they went by in the street. She was small but ate like a pig and ate the other guys food until she became like a basketball. No shit. I didn't know what to do. I put out enough for two and she ate most of it. Aldo was an aristocrat. He put up with her, completely patient, elegant, regal.
Edited at September 8, 2011 3:50 PM
September 8, 2011 3:50 PM - More4Less
DH, according to that perspective, kids are definitely the real smart ones. not only do I have to clean them after they poop, pee, etc. I have to clothe them, feed them, entertain them, schlep them around, protect them, and that routine can last for yearssssssssssssssssss
Edited at September 8, 2011 3:50 PM
September 8, 2011 3:50 PM - minard lafever
gort, thanks.
It has helped two sets of friends with their neurotic pet issues, so we are hoping.

Edited at September 8, 2011 3:50 PM
September 8, 2011 3:51 PM - GortFromPlanetX
I want to know who coined the terms "Working like a dog" and "It's a dog's life"

Benson maybe they were talking about snow sled dogs out in the tundra that seems like a hard life.
September 8, 2011 3:52 PM - Donatella
I always believed my cats loved me, but in my moments of doubt, I thought it might be my opposing thumb.
September 8, 2011 3:52 PM - GortFromPlanetX
Minard, that is excellent it is supposed to do wonders for people as well I should get some LOL!
Edited at September 8, 2011 3:52 PM
September 8, 2011 3:54 PM - minard lafever
they used to say cats love the house more than the person. Dogs are the opposite.

September 8, 2011 3:56 PM - Donatella
Minard, are you able to calm your dog down by the way you talk to him? Or is it beyond that? When the wheels bother him? I could change my cats' mood by my tone of voice. I could make them do things too just by tone, like make them roll over or drool. I guess I could make them think of food. Oh well, I am leaving for a seminar.

Good evening, losers.
September 8, 2011 3:58 PM - Donatella
Oh, before I go.......after I came back from Japan, poor Aldo got so sick. I took him to an emergency vet at night (in Staten Island). Man, what a bunch of characters in there. There was an owner with a parrot who had tendonitis. It kept falling off its perch. Ok, now I am really going....
Edited at September 8, 2011 3:58 PM
September 8, 2011 4:00 PM - GortFromPlanetX
That would be TRAGIC for a parrot Donna!!!

Have a great seminar!
September 8, 2011 4:01 PM - Deleted
yeah benson - the expression should be "working like a republican"
September 8, 2011 4:02 PM - Deleted
Touche', DH!
September 8, 2011 4:07 PM - minard lafever
I could never work as hard as Dave! :o/
September 8, 2011 4:13 PM - wendybear1
Hi everyone. I'm just getting in from my first day with a bunch of 12 and 13 year olds. My feet are killing me and I'm tired, but it was a good day overall.

At least the munchkin made it home from school without getting flattened. :-)
September 8, 2011 4:15 PM - More4Less
Wendy, thought you said you were going to be teaching a bunch of wee ones?? 12-13 yr olds is not the wee ones I was assuming
Edited at September 8, 2011 4:15 PM
September 8, 2011 4:20 PM - wendybear1
"Wendy, thought you said you were going to be teaching a bunch of wee ones?? 12-13 yr olds is not the wee ones I was assuming"
I got changed back to the older kids. 8th grade. Help me!!!!! ;-)
Edited at September 8, 2011 4:20 PM
September 8, 2011 4:35 PM - Arkady
I have a friend who uses Dr. Bach's Rescue Remedy & swears it's wonderful. I am sceptical about homeopathy.
dibs was astonished at how totally odor-free my 2-cat house is even when he stood next to the litter box.
September 8, 2011 4:45 PM - Deleted
" I am sceptical about homeopathy."

what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms is nothing to be skeptical of!! (is sceptical a different word, or just a eurotrash spelling?)
Edited at September 8, 2011 4:45 PM
September 8, 2011 5:02 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
"Wendy, thought you said you were going to be teaching a bunch of wee ones?? 12-13 yr olds is not the wee ones I was assuming"

lol. 12-13 seems about the average age for NYC public school 4th and 5th graders

*rob*

September 8, 2011 5:46 PM - Kensingtonian
So just spoke to a bstoner lurker who is making a move to join us here. If someone by the name of Condoguy pops up and says hello, please don't think it's a sockpuppet. It's very much a real person :o).
Edited at September 8, 2011 5:46 PM
September 8, 2011 5:58 PM - Arkady
dh - SC is preferred spelling in US as well as elsewhere.
Edited at September 8, 2011 5:58 PM
September 8, 2011 6:19 PM - Condoguy
I spoke to Kensingtonian today. He told me this forum was the place to be.
September 8, 2011 6:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
well it was until YOU showed up. hahahah just kidding. where did everyone go?! gross question: where can you buy nosehair clippers?! gross i know, i always rip mine out and it hurts like HELL, and trying to cut with a small scissors i wind up cutting the inside of my nose. i went to duane reade and they had none. do they make them that arent electronic? i remember using one once that had a battery in it.

*rob*

September 8, 2011 6:48 PM - GortFromPlanetX
Rob DON"T YANK THEM OUT!!!

Your nose and hairs within lay in what Dr Oz calls the triangle of death, any infection can travel quickly to the brain!!!

Best to use the electric kind, I use the battery kind but sometimes it gets a little weak tho.
Edited at September 8, 2011 6:48 PM
September 8, 2011 6:54 PM - Kensingtonian
Welcome to the jungle condo guy. Create an avatar and jump right in. Denton is around and posts on and off as well.
September 8, 2011 6:55 PM - Arkady
Gort's right, rob. Really bad idea to rip them out. There are scissors made for it but most men use the electric ones. You have to pay a fair amount for the manual scissors because they have to be well machined to be easy to use.
September 8, 2011 7:02 PM - GortFromPlanetX
Thanks Arkady for confirming I know I heard a conversation on just how dangerous that practice can be.

Ohh and welcome Condoguy!
But I am not one of the regulars here so I feel kinda like a guest inviting a stranger into somebody elses home lol
September 8, 2011 7:23 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
UGH now im terrified ( i just doused the inside of my nostrils with hydrogen peroxide) ive been yanking my nose hairs out for YEARS :(
fuuuuuuck. is there a way to test if you have brain damage? ugh. i sorta always heard not to pop pimples on your nose cuz of that but not pull out nosehairs, never connected the two.

*rob*

September 8, 2011 7:26 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Your nose and hairs within lay in what Dr Oz calls the triangle of death, any infection can travel quickly to the brain!!!

wait a second. Dr. Oz? isnt he that tv show doctor hack that started out on Orpah? he's a TOTAL drama queen when it comes to medical science. at least the few segments ive seen of him...

"triangle of death" :-/ when i think of the triangle of death i imagine flatbush avenue, not a stray nose hair

September 8, 2011 7:28 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
tho this does give me PERFECT ammunition for prank calling my health plan's "nurses on call" 24 hour 800 number :)

"i think im dying!!!"
"why?"
"im too embarrassed to say"
"please tell me why"
"i just cant!"
"why do you think you might be dying?"
"youre going to judge me"
"we dont judge"
"you did last week"
"why do you think youre dying?"
"i pull out my nosehairs!"

*rob*

September 8, 2011 10:55 PM - Arkady
Oz may be a drama queen but if he says a car that runs over you will hurt he's right. Nose hair pulling can lead to wicked infections.
So neat to have sparse high clouds w/ moon peeking through!
September 8, 2011 11:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
well i woke be plucking them anymore.

*rob*