Wednesday Open Thread
September 7, 2011 7:11 AM - BoerumHillScott

432 comments
September 7, 2011 7:21 AM - DeadCatBounce
From Bloomberg News:
"U.S. banks that took part in a boom of megamergers from 1991 through 2004 benefited by more than $15 billion from perceived government support after being labeled “too-big-to-fail,” according to a study from the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia."

Are we really going to dismantle the free market system that created the greatest`economy in the history of the world? WAKE UP AMERICA!
#1
September 7, 2011 7:27 AM - sixyearsandcounting
FGVOTD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGIFpsoOWOs
#2
September 7, 2011 8:16 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
LOL Six! I'm not sure if that was jazzercise, poor dancing, or a collective epileptic fit set to music!

Ok...off to work
#3
September 7, 2011 8:56 AM - dibs
Rainy up here with Katia riptides. Not good boating weather,
Edited at September 7, 2011 8:56 AM
#4
September 7, 2011 8:58 AM - Arkady
We had nearly 2 inches yesterday, dibs, & are still getting more.
Edited at September 7, 2011 8:58 AM
#5
September 7, 2011 9:00 AM - dibs
Most of the storm has passed north of the Cape but I think we got 3" over the past 2 days. Creek rose again in Bucks but didn't crest.
#6
September 7, 2011 9:02 AM - dibs
The rain was really needed up here plus, I planted about 40 different perennials in the front yard plus a fig tree so I want them well watered.
#7
September 7, 2011 9:11 AM - GortFromPlanetX
GM
interesting clip, new apple store to open in HK, yahoo exec ousted

http://online.wsj.com/video/apple-store-in-hong-kong-yahoo-ceo-fired/B13766AC-D042-4ADC-9AED-A2F4E3A4D83F.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_mpvidcar_1
#8
September 7, 2011 9:17 AM - dibs
Apparently the foie gras ban in CA takes place in July. Talk about government overreaching its authority
Edited at September 7, 2011 9:21 AM
#9
September 7, 2011 9:25 AM - dibs
The FHFA suing the banks is really ridiculous as well. There lawsuits will hurt bank capital and decrease lending. It's as stupid and overstepping as the NLRB's attack on Boeing and is what's wrong with government.
#10
September 7, 2011 9:25 AM - BoerumHillScott
I like a lot of sissy liberal causes, but I never got the whole animal rights movement, especially when applied to food animals.
#11
September 7, 2011 9:26 AM - dibs
"sissy liberal causes"

LOL
#12
September 7, 2011 9:33 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
ugh holy nightmare. last night i had the most vivid crazy dream where i was riding in a rainbow sparkly cloud (gotd im sure) somewhere out in the universe, it was scary but vivid and was like wow this if fun then im dropped thru a chute and im in some dingy old house getting sexually assaulted (i.e. almost raped) by a werewolf! i was able to get away tho.

*rob*

#13
September 7, 2011 9:35 AM - Arkady
dibs - I went to Kiku w/ some friends. Have you tried it? Another pal of mine thinks it's better than Oshima - but prefers Blue Ribbon to either.
#14
September 7, 2011 9:35 AM - dibs
Ralph Engelman, chair of Journalism and Communication Studies at Long Island University, Brooklyn Campus and spokesman for the faculty union, the Long Island University Faculty Federation (LIUFF), said that salary is the biggest sticking point.

"For the first three years of a five year contract, they don't want to guarantee any kind of wage increase, salary increase to base pay," Engelman said.

Professors were also asked to accept a new heathcare plan that would reduce costs for the University.

LIKE THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, ASSHOLES!!!!!!
#15
September 7, 2011 9:38 AM - dibs
I have not, Arkady. It's on Smith? Are the sushi chefs Japanese or Fukinese??? And, did they have Chu Toro???
Edited at September 7, 2011 9:38 AM
#16
September 7, 2011 9:40 AM - dibs
Switching from Oshima will be hard since they really like us and give us such HUGE pieces and all the extras!!!! My only comlaint is no real Toro, sometimes just frozen
#17
September 7, 2011 9:42 AM - Arkady
Kiku is on 5th between Lincoln & Berkeley. You can see most of the menu on MenuPages - I didn't really vet the sushi offerings.
#18
September 7, 2011 9:42 AM - dibs
Ahh, it's on 5th, near Lincoln
#19
September 7, 2011 9:43 AM - Arkady
I'm surprised at you! I thought you'd go for quality over quantity!!!
#20
September 7, 2011 9:46 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
LIKE THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, ASSHOLES!!!!!!

i agree, but it's sickening that it is becoming the norm and rich people (not the mega rich, but the phoney rich and upper middle class) are all making out like bandits and are constantly screaming, well NO ONE IS GETTING RAISES blah blah blah. BULLSHIT

*rob*

#21
September 7, 2011 9:48 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
granted i think professors are grossly overpaid and a bunch of pompous jerks... but still

8rob*

#22
September 7, 2011 9:49 AM - denton
Arkady, Kiku is a mini-chain now... they have at least 2 locations on 7th.
#23
September 7, 2011 9:50 AM - dibs
I think the Postmaster General also needs to be fired.
#24
September 7, 2011 9:52 AM - dibs
Are they japanese or Fukinese???
#25
September 7, 2011 10:01 AM - More4Less
DIBS, you asking about the owner or the sushi chef? unless the place charges high prices and doing pretty well, chances are that the chef is NOT Japanese - ie legit Japanese chef make north of 80k
#26
September 7, 2011 10:18 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
omg <3 this!!!!! Trust Funds going the way of the Dodo!! YAY! for one the selfish baby boomers are actually doing something RIGHT!


"Baby boomers don't plan to leave their children an inheritance

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Are baby boomers being selfish, they might have lived through a couple of rough patches but overall the economy they grew up in is better than then the one their kids live in today.

"My goal is when they carry me away in that box that my bank account is going to say zero," Willison said. "I'm going to spoil myself now."



Many baby boomers don't plan to leave their children an inheritance - latimes.com



Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/1374089-baby-boomers-dont-plan-leave-their.html#ixzz1XHByvSiN
Edited at September 7, 2011 10:18 AM
#27
September 7, 2011 10:21 AM - Donatella
Pretty cranky mood here today... Is it the rain? Back to school? The Market is up, the Yankees are in first place, uhm searching here.....it's just FABULOUS TO BE ALIVE.... ok, what else. I got a big NO from Travelers. I guess the rain damage qualified solidly as my responsibility. oh well.
#28
September 7, 2011 10:24 AM - rf
Cue music: It's the most wonderful time of the year...
#29
September 7, 2011 10:28 AM - More4Less
Donatella, so insurance is paying zip, nada, etc on that rain damage repairs???
#30
September 7, 2011 10:28 AM - Donatella
*rob* if you believed half of the stuff you write, I would be seriously worried.
#31
September 7, 2011 10:34 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
well i just think that this unfortunate statement is true.

"Wealth is only created through passing finances down through generations." those with no wealth passing down to them unfortunately usually wind up on the poorish side unless they are extremely lucky or extremely talented at something. most people are neither lucky nor talented tho

*rob*

#32
September 7, 2011 10:37 AM - Donatella
M4L, I told them the exact story on the phone, they seemed to think therit was a claim, I waited for the guy to come for a couple of weeks, he went through the house, took pictures, made comments, said he would try to get me the highest amount he could, then I got a cryptic call last night, citing section 415-c, blah blah or something about a water clause. I have to read through the policy. Why do they even bother coming? I think Travelers (and others) were overwhelmed. I have to call later to discuss this.

#33
September 7, 2011 10:41 AM - Arkady
dibs - Radar's showing clearing patch for you & us.
Edited at September 7, 2011 10:41 AM
#34
September 7, 2011 10:51 AM - dibs
Just got back...had to get the car inspected.
Edited at September 7, 2011 10:51 AM
#35
September 7, 2011 10:55 AM - dibs
Dona, I've ratcheted down most of my policies to bare minimums except for fire.
#36
September 7, 2011 11:12 AM - Donatella
To be honest, I was surprised that the aduster was coming over. I wanted to see if they would do something but normally a roof problem doesn't qualify. A new record for rainfall might. So I wanted to see what they would do about this. Not to dwell on this topic, but my squirrel visitor did 2,000 dollars worth of damage. That was not covered. I had a problem with the waste line two years ago and it covered that but after the deductible, I didn't get much. I wonder if I should do the same -- price the insurance for a huge disaste, i.e. big deductible r because it seems that they don't cover a hell of a lot else.
#37
September 7, 2011 11:15 AM - dibs
Yes, I agree. My deductibles are $5,000.
Edited at September 7, 2011 11:15 AM
#38
September 7, 2011 11:18 AM - BoerumHillScott
I've always had the largest deductible my mortgage company would let me have - usually $5000.
I've never made a claim.
Edited at September 7, 2011 11:18 AM
#39
September 7, 2011 11:22 AM - Donatella
My deductible is 2500 dollars.
#40
September 7, 2011 11:30 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
mine is zero. the landlord has to pay for all that shit. now im pissed i bought that toilet level myself last week :-/

*rob*

#41
September 7, 2011 11:33 AM - dibs
what happened with the toilet fix, rob?????

Edited at September 7, 2011 11:33 AM
#42
September 7, 2011 11:43 AM - Donatella
*rob* fixed it himself. Which is fine. But I think that unless you can't rely on the management, leaving that stuff for the building management is the best thing to do. Really, why should you do that? It sounds like the repair was simple but what if it turned out to be more than you thought? You were afraid of being a spoiled moonface by asking for the service
you pay for????

Notice I did NOT analyze your dream.
#43
September 7, 2011 11:47 AM - dibs
Either fix it yourself or get the management to fix it. Spare us the constant whining and complaining.
Edited at September 7, 2011 11:47 AM
#44
September 7, 2011 11:50 AM - Donatella
*rob* fixed it himself. Actually, I was impressed. But I just think that it is better to leave repairs to the building.
#45
September 7, 2011 12:10 PM - minard lafever
rob, the landlord insures his building, he does not insure your personal liability or your possessions. For that, you need renter's insurance.


#46
September 7, 2011 12:13 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
renters insurance for what? (seriously). dave, yeah it was a 2 minute fix. and the part cost like 4 bux. i figured it was easier to do it myself than wait around in the morning (which would mean losing a few hours at work im sure). plus i learned all about how toilet bowls work.


*rob*

#47
September 7, 2011 12:14 PM - dibs
and repairs aren't covered for the most part.
Edited at September 7, 2011 12:14 PM
#48
September 7, 2011 12:26 PM - minard lafever
I'm thinking of getting umbrella coverage, which is for everything. car, co-op. liability etc. Does anyone have that?

#49
September 7, 2011 12:28 PM - dibs
I do Minard.
#50
September 7, 2011 12:29 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
uh you get umbrellas for like 3 dollars from street vendors. i guess if you lose them a lot like me insurance might be worth it, but only if youre the type who buys fancy pants umbrellas from museums and stuff, not for cheapy umbrellas.


*rob*

#51
September 7, 2011 12:30 PM - dibs
I have the umbrella insurance for when I lose one in a fancy drink.
Edited at September 7, 2011 12:37 PM
#52
September 7, 2011 12:34 PM - DeadCatBounce
I have umbrella insurance, too.
#53
September 7, 2011 12:36 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
do you get reimbursed for the actual bartab and drinks themselves? i wasnt aware you own those umbrellas in drinks, i always thought i was bad ass stealing them like when people steal beer glasses and silverware from restaurants!


*rob*

Edited at September 7, 2011 12:36 PM
#54
September 7, 2011 12:41 PM - BoerumHillScott
I have liability umbrella insurance as well.

#55
September 7, 2011 12:41 PM - Donatella
*rob* let's say that there is a broken pipe in your building and it dumps water all over your stuff and destroys computer, TV etc. Then to fix the apartment, you really can't be there. The landlord is responsible for making the repairs, but if there is any loss to your stuff and you need to stay at a hotel, renters insurance will cover all of that. Or if somebody breaks into your apartment and steals stuff. Sorry to paint a picture of destruction, but that is what renter's insurance is for.
#56
September 7, 2011 12:41 PM - denton
minard, I have an umbrella policy. Cheap and well worth it if you have assets.
#57
September 7, 2011 12:42 PM - dibs
I never submitted a claim when a hustler stole something from me.
#58
September 7, 2011 12:45 PM - minard lafever
thanks Dave and DCB, it does seem to make sense.
#59
September 7, 2011 12:46 PM - minard lafever
rob, you don't need an umbrella policy, you need a toilet handle policy.

#60
September 7, 2011 12:46 PM - dibs
Yes, Minard, if you get sued for something. You have to specify every property and car/boat etc wherever someone could sue you from
#61
September 7, 2011 12:47 PM - BoerumHillScott
Many places require renters insurance with a minimum level of liability insurance to discourage people from going after the building in case of an injury or other liability in the unit.

The last 2 places I rented both required it.
Edited at September 7, 2011 12:47 PM
#62
September 7, 2011 12:54 PM - minard lafever
right now I have geico for the car and state farm for the co-op and contents. It would be easier to get it all in one.


#63
September 7, 2011 12:55 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Many places require renters insurance with a minimum level of liability insurance

screw those kinds of buildings. they are the same kinds of busy body management companies that wanna peak in your peak accounts, credit report, and then ask you how much change you got in your purse. that shit really has to end soon via some sorta renters legislation. just cuz someone has bad credit and no money in their bank account does not mean they can't pay their stupid rent!



*rob*

Edited at September 7, 2011 12:55 PM
#64
September 7, 2011 12:56 PM - Donatella
Re the upcoming 9-11 stuff, I decided not to watch TV. I'll go to a memorial service. That's it. Just want to be quiet and remember this in my own way. I don't think I could bear listening to TV bloviators. Or getting the old TV coverage from the day. It would be too much.
#65
September 7, 2011 12:57 PM - dibs
You can include properties & autos that are insured by someone other than your umbrella policy with no problem. You will be required to show that you have a certain level of liability coverage in all those other policies.
Edited at September 7, 2011 12:57 PM
#66
September 7, 2011 12:57 PM - DeadCatBounce
"f busy body management companies that wanna peak in your peak accounts,"

What is a peak account?
#67
September 7, 2011 12:58 PM - denton
minard, i forgot, to get the umbrella you have to up your other policies to high limits. If you have a car u need to up it to 250/500. I have all my policies with SF, makes it easier.
#68
September 7, 2011 12:58 PM - minard lafever
rob, too bad you don't live in Italy or Spain because there are some really good people's protests and general strikes going on now. You would really get into it and people even bring their dogs!

#69
September 7, 2011 12:58 PM - dibs
Dona...agree. Not looking forward to all the special 9-11 coverage.

it's time to move on people.
Edited at September 7, 2011 12:58 PM
#70
September 7, 2011 12:59 PM - minard lafever
thanks denton.

#71
September 7, 2011 1:02 PM - minard lafever
I agree with donna and dave about 9-11.
#72
September 7, 2011 1:03 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
arent all those "peoples" protests in italy and spain just a bunch of lazy people who dont wanna work and live off social welfare programs? sorry, im a tad ignorant about the politics of both of those countries. i havent logged onto either in a few years.

*rob*

#73
September 7, 2011 1:04 PM - dibs
"arent all those "peoples" protests in italy and spain just a bunch of lazy people who dont wanna work and live off social welfare programs?"

EXACTLY.
Edited at September 7, 2011 1:04 PM
#74
September 7, 2011 1:07 PM - minard lafever
-arent all those "peoples" protests in italy and spain just a bunch of lazy people-

rob, I think that's what the Germans say, but they are nuts in their own way. Jealous too I think of the Mediterranean lifestyle.
I think most of the folks are socialists or communists, a lot of red flags. But mostly they are protesting austerity measures. And a loss of national autonomy.
There is a dog in Athens that is famous for showing up at all the demonstrations.
#75
September 7, 2011 1:10 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Mediterranean lifestyle.

also known as...

#76
September 7, 2011 1:12 PM - More4Less
Minard, umbrella insurance might impact your car insurance as some require you to up the liability coverage on the car portion before they allow you to take on the umbrella policy. but we're just talking about a few hundred bucks in total so really not a biggie either way
#77
September 7, 2011 1:12 PM - minard lafever
rob, there could be a big protest organized by contrarians like yourself but the problem is that they can never agree on a place and time.

#78
September 7, 2011 1:15 PM - minard lafever
m4L my plan would be to cancel the auto policy and move everything over to State Farm. They gave me a quote on a million dollar umbrella policy, which I think is pretty standard in Brooklyn.
#79
September 7, 2011 1:16 PM - petebklyn
is this weather causing all this umbrella talk?
Edited at September 7, 2011 1:16 PM
#80
September 7, 2011 1:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im not really a big fan of protests cuz i dont usually care which way the wind blows about any particular issue. most protesters just wind up wasting their time and most dont even give a crap they're just attention whores.

*rob*

#81
September 7, 2011 1:18 PM - petebklyn
am sitting in car in front of fire station in rain that is supposed to last until friday morning. effing adirondacks.
will drive 10 miles in little while to get cell phone reception.
#82
September 7, 2011 1:18 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
tho i did want to organize a protest that one time for not letting adults into the sprinklers at the park that opened up a few years ago, but no one believed in the cause.

*rob*

#83
September 7, 2011 1:19 PM - petebklyn
i thought you liked attention whores -- and follow all those no-talent faux celebs/who dating/ who screwing/ and latest runin with cops.
#84
September 7, 2011 1:20 PM - petebklyn
I am reading a novel called Prospect Park West (Amy Sohn)to occupy my time - and remind me of the lifestyle you all lead.
#85
September 7, 2011 1:21 PM - minard lafever
pete, its all nature all the time in the adirondacks.
#86
September 7, 2011 1:23 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I am reading a novel called Prospect Park West (Amy Sohn).

wow YHFOTD award

*rob*

#87
September 7, 2011 1:23 PM - petebklyn
another car just pulled up to use wifi signal.
#88
September 7, 2011 1:25 PM - petebklyn
what does YHFOTD stand for? it was on sale table at B&N upstate and figured I needed something to remind me of what I left behind. Makes me glad I don't live in P.S.
Edited at September 7, 2011 1:25 PM
#89
September 7, 2011 1:25 PM - DeadCatBounce
I am reading a great book called "The Gift of Rain"?
Anyone else read it?
#90
September 7, 2011 1:26 PM - petebklyn
never. maybe i can download it.
Edited at September 7, 2011 1:26 PM
#91
September 7, 2011 1:30 PM - Deleted
Hi all;

Late to the party. A few comments regarding property insurance:

-as I mentioned yesterday, many of the mainline insurers - State Farm, Allstate and Nationwide in particular - are pulling out of the Brooklyn market. Last year I tried to get condo insurance for my place from State Farm, but they were no longer writing new policies for my area of Park Slope, even though folks in my complex had previously been able to buy policies from them. State Farm just notified my mother-in-law that they will not renew the policy for her one-family home in Gravesend. When I went to Allstate to buy insurance for her, they informed me that they are no longer writing new policies in Brooklyn too. If you currently have one of these insurers, I would advise that you shop around a month before your renewal comes up, lest you get caught flat-footed.

-it is not a good idea to make a claim for anything under $10K of damages,regardless of your deductible level. Making a series of small claims is reason #1 why companies do not renew.

-I'm currently working with the insurance broker recommended by Herkimermaid in the Bstone Forum section: Will Smolino. As Herkimermaid states, he is excellent. His office is in Bay Ridge, but he actually focuses on Brownstone Brooklyn.

Later!
#92
September 7, 2011 1:31 PM - minard lafever
I just finished David McCullough's latest, "The Greater Journey" or something to that effect, it is about Americans in Paris in the mid to late 19th century. Really good. The chapter on health care in Paris at the time is appallingly fascinating. Anyway, I recommend.

#93
September 7, 2011 1:34 PM - Deleted
Minard;
As I mentioned over the weekend, I find anything written by David McCullough to be great. I just finished reading his "1776", and the parts about the Battle of Brooklyn were particularly good, especialy since I live across the street from the Old Stone House.
Edited at September 7, 2011 1:34 PM
#94
September 7, 2011 1:37 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
YHFOFTD - yuppie haus fraus of the day award. you win it by reading sohn's book

omg

Edited at September 7, 2011 1:37 PM
#95
September 7, 2011 1:38 PM - petebklyn
this weather is making me a haus frau
Edited at September 7, 2011 1:38 PM
#96
September 7, 2011 1:40 PM - Legion
On property insurance,
Some say increasing your liability limits is an invitation for slip and fall lawyers to go after you in a lawsuit.
They may have a point in NYC.
Perhaps the best remedy is some sort of LLC/FLP structure instead.
Seems cheaper as well.
#97
September 7, 2011 1:40 PM - petebklyn
and I'm too old to be a yuppie anything.
#98
September 7, 2011 1:40 PM - minard lafever
1776 was good. This new book is good because it transports you via these real American figures, to Paris at the time of the Prussian siege and the communard rebellion and the burning of the Tuilleries Palace and Notre Dame and the Hotel de Ville etc.
During the siege, rats from breweries were sought after for their flavor since all they ate were oats and barley.
#99
September 7, 2011 1:43 PM - minard lafever
legion, I don't own a brownstone, just a two-bedroom co-op.

September 7, 2011 1:53 PM - dibs
"another car just pulled up to use wifi signal."


Ummm, Pete, if you are at a rest stop, they didn't pull up to use WiFi. If they are good looking, follow him into the woods!!!
September 7, 2011 1:55 PM - Legion
I see minard.
Why the need for umbrella coverage? Just curious.
Usually it's associated with;
-landlords
-professions with high risk exposure
-businesses with high risk exposure

September 7, 2011 1:56 PM - dibs
Just for kicks, a few years ago I called AARP for a quote on homeowners insurance for Brooklyn. After spending five minutes giving him info he said that they don't insure anyting in that area for over $250,000 or something like that.

You don't want to know what i told him after that....jackass.
Edited at September 7, 2011 1:56 PM
September 7, 2011 1:57 PM - dibs
Legion, it's primarily to protect you from them coming after your assets. Get $2MM to be safe.
Edited at September 7, 2011 1:57 PM
September 7, 2011 1:59 PM - Deleted
This morning I went to my doctor in North Park Slope. While I was there, I thought I would stop in at Cafe Regular di Nord. I then saw that they now charge $4.50 for a double cappucino. $4.50!!! Didn't seem to stop most people - the place was mobbed. I walked out.

I'll believe that folks are serious about putting their fiscal homes in order when this type of chi-chi nonsense goes away.
September 7, 2011 1:59 PM - minard lafever
legion, really?
that's why I'm asking.
I own a coop and a car, own stuff I like and I sometimes rent cars.
I thought an umbrella policy that protects all those things and the liability issues made sense.

September 7, 2011 2:00 PM - dibs
LOL at rob and benson together on the chi chi coffee subject!!!!
September 7, 2011 2:01 PM - Deleted
DIBS is correct: umbrella policies protect your assets.
September 7, 2011 2:01 PM - Legion
True dibs,
There's no end to nightmare stories of lawsuits in this city and
the stories of cagey insurance companies are even more numerous.
Someone should offer an insurance policy against insurance company fine print.
September 7, 2011 2:02 PM - dibs
Shortage of mechanics and engineers in the country according to something on CNBC.
Edited at September 7, 2011 2:02 PM
September 7, 2011 2:04 PM - Deleted
And another thing....

......if I'm going to pay $4.50 for a cappucino, I want it in a real cup (like Cafe Regular used to do), not a paper cup!!!
September 7, 2011 2:05 PM - minard lafever
Benson I got a "free for one order" coupon at Starbucks, so not into the starbucks thing, I order a "frapucino" figuring it would be like a large capucino or late. WRONG! it was a milkshake. No wonder kids like the stuff. It doesn't even taste like coffee.

September 7, 2011 2:06 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
This morning I went to my doctor in North Park Slope. While I was there, I thought I would stop in at Cafe Regular di Nord. I then saw that they now charge $4.50 for a double cappucino. $4.50!!! Didn't seem to stop most people - the place was mobbed. I walked out.

GOOD for you for NOT putting up with moonface pricing!!!! i wouldnt have just walked out, i would have "accidently" knocked their tip jar on the ground too! i just KNOW they had a big obnoxious tip jar out...

*rob*

September 7, 2011 2:08 PM - BoerumHillScott
I have personal liability coverage to protect my assets and to have a company on my side with a vested interest in defending me if in case someone goes after them for liability reasons.

The cost for $1 million is about $80 a year on top of my renters policy, although I also had to bump up my coverage a bit more than I normal would have gone with.
September 7, 2011 2:18 PM - Legion
You guys are missing my point, I'm afraid.
No doubt that assets need protecting.
I'm asking if everyone really needs to protect their assets above usual levels
if one is not engaged or associated with a profession or business with a high risk.


September 7, 2011 2:21 PM - Legion
haha,
I'm so "conditioned" to look for a tip jar now,
that I'm surprised when I go into a store and there is none there.
It happened to me this morning when I went into a bagel store.
September 7, 2011 2:22 PM - dibs
Anything, Legion, not just stuff associated with high risk professions...a slip and fall for instance or if you have a bad auto accident and get sued over that. It's not about the risk it's about protecting your assets.


Edited at September 7, 2011 2:22 PM
September 7, 2011 2:23 PM - Deleted
Legion;

We are talking about low risk folks. Umbrella liability is ideal for people with assets engaged in normal (or "lower risk") activities. The cost of this insurance is quite low, in line with the risk. For just a couple of hundred additional dollars a year, you can have peace of mind that your assets are protected.
September 7, 2011 2:23 PM - Deleted
my bldg made me get renters insurance - but the policy i got was cheap and also included coverage if my laptop got stolen in or out of my apartment.
September 7, 2011 2:25 PM - Legion
...put it this way.
You pay a certain amount each year for umbrella coverage
You pay an additional amount each year for the increased coverage limits required by the umbrella policy.
Let's say that adds up to $500 dollars per annum.
Would it not make more sense to structure your assets so that any potential litigants get the big
middle finger if they were to actually win a frivilous lawsuit against you?
You could structure your LLC so that the lawsuit "winner" would be liable for taxes but
would wait indefinitely for any distributions.
Over the course of ten years alone you'd probably end up saving a thousand dollars by protecting your assets that way
as opposed to handing over premium increase after premium increase to these increasingly shady insurers.
September 7, 2011 2:25 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Good coffee and milk are expensive, but 4.50 is a fucking joke.
September 7, 2011 2:27 PM - rf
Daughter is singing with her chorus at St. Patrick's Cathedral on Sunday evening. Donatella, it's free and open to the public. Should be lovely.
Edited at September 7, 2011 2:27 PM
September 7, 2011 2:27 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: DH I love the Rick Ross avatar, but man that guys rapping is so so bad. Have you hear the selling dope on my iPhone song where he rhymes phone with phone? It's terrible.
September 7, 2011 2:28 PM - minard lafever
I make my own coffee at the office. I have one of those little Keurig machines that makes one cup at a time. I like it.
September 7, 2011 2:29 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: If you wanna hear it for yourself....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MD7xGARkfg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

September 7, 2011 2:33 PM - Deleted
haha randolph - no, haven't heard it. will take a listen later. i like 5 of his songs and they all sound exactly the same. BOSS!!
September 7, 2011 2:35 PM - dibs
Yes, certainly LLCs make sense if you've got a number of properties. Additional time and effort for taxes though as well
Edited at September 7, 2011 2:35 PM
September 7, 2011 2:35 PM - Deleted
Legion;
This weekend I spent a couple of hours riding around the Rockaways. IMHO, that Arverne-by-the-Sea development is the best middle income development realized in NYC in the past 50 years. REALLY well done. Not convenient for folks who have to work in Manahattan, but for someone who drives to work in Brooklyn or Queens it's great.

I think that area of the Rockaways has ALOT of development potential.
Edited at September 7, 2011 2:35 PM
September 7, 2011 2:40 PM - Deleted
For those who are not familiar with Arverne by the Sea:

http://www.arvernebythesea.com/
Edited at September 7, 2011 2:40 PM
September 7, 2011 2:41 PM - rf
It's such a shame that the Rockaways sat fallow for so many years. Beachfront property! Your avatar was responsible for building projects there and in Coney Island and encouraging white flight to beaches only accessible by car.
September 7, 2011 2:42 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: I wonder what kind of music rob and Dibs are into?
September 7, 2011 2:43 PM - Donatella
I am not sure what I am going to do other than go to a memorial service and be quiet. Thanks for telling me about that rf. I learned something about this damage experience. I would handle it totally differently if I could rewind the clock. I would have had my handyman in there the next day ripping away. I made a mistake by discussing it with the insurance company first and waiting for an adjuster (waiting, waiting, waiting) before starting work. Tenant was away and irritation would have been much less for everyone. I also am going to make renters insurance part of the discussion with the yearly lease renewal. It is relatively cheap and tenants really need to know the boundaries of responsibility.
September 7, 2011 2:43 PM - Deleted
pretty snazzy benson - how far away are those from the trendy brooklynized area of the rockaways?
September 7, 2011 2:44 PM - Deleted
rob only likes music from the 80s/early 90s sung by females and techno
September 7, 2011 2:45 PM - denton
benson, I think that a long term RE investment in Coney Island or the Rockaways will be a big winner, especially with a protected view of the water. Unfortunately I have all the money I want in RE right now.
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September 7, 2011 2:46 PM - Deleted
RF;

I guess it must do a liberal's heart good to blame NYC's past problems on that all-purpose bogeyman, Robert Moses. But tell me, was Robert Moses involved in Atlantic City or Asbury Park, New Jersey? And how have those former beach resort areas held up over the years?
September 7, 2011 2:48 PM - Deleted
DH;

Arverne is about 1/2 mile from that hip taco place. I passed the taco place - also lines out the door.
September 7, 2011 2:49 PM - dibs
Atlantic City is STILL a pit. Even Christie thinks so.
September 7, 2011 2:49 PM - DeadCatBounce
on, I looked at Averne. Seemed good but you are required to live in one of the apts. (They are all 2 family).
Great way for someone with not a huge amount of money to get a home of their own and live for a reasonable amount each month.
September 7, 2011 2:54 PM - Legion
dibs,
True, the cost in taxes and maintaining the LLC might outweigh the benefits for most.
As in most financial matters, I guess it's really a question of what works best for the individual circumstance.

benson,
Yes, I'm very familiar with Arverne by the sea.
The main negatives there are the distance from Midtown (by current transport options)
and the lack of amenities. 5 towns and long island are only 10 minutes East however.

The community feels very nice in the summer, particularly along the water where there is an ocean drive.
Really doesn't feel like NYC.
Nice housing options with multifamily dwellings for income.
They are building a new transportation plaza there with a YMCA as well.

Crime is still somewhat of a concern there. Many, many years of blight and neglect to overcome.
September 7, 2011 2:55 PM - denton
legion, LLCs great for wealthy people like docs, lol, who can buy everything in cash. I don't think you can have an LLC with a mortgage tho. Certainly won't be buying in a coop as an llc.

So an umbrella an easy and cheap way to cover assets that you own with values over and above limits of other policies. LLCs aren't free either, you have to file a tax return every year. Probably an accountant will charge more for the returns than you get charged for an umbrella.

Also, even with an LLC, you can still get sued. Sleazy lawyers file suit every day. Sure you'll probably win but it's the cost to defend that hurts. I'd rather have my insurance company foot the bill.
September 7, 2011 2:56 PM - BoerumHillScott
I'm not a huge Moses fan, but "urban renewal" and freeways cutting through core urban neighborhoods happened in all cities across the country.

What did not happen in most other cities was huge park expansions during the same time.
September 7, 2011 2:56 PM - dibs
"Really doesn't feel like NYC."

That will certainly appeal to many, but if I'm in NYC I want to feel like it. Must be hard to get quality hustlers out that far but I'm sure there's local talent, given that this is afterall, NYC!!!!
September 7, 2011 2:57 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
rob only likes music from the 80s/early 90s sung by females and techno

yes pretty much, and female rap of every decade.

and LOL how it seems that only moonface apartment buildings (u KNOW it's true) are the ones that mandate renter's insurace... it's like they KNOW everyone is the type to get their shit jacked and they wanna have to deal with the incessant whining and passive aggressive notes hahaha.

and re: Atlantic City. it's not my thing, but atlantic city supposedly has the hottest hookers in the nation. (female and tranny) not sure about gay.

*rob*

September 7, 2011 2:58 PM - rf
Benson, the same kind of policy decisions that hurt the Rockaways and Coney Island also hurt Asbury Park and Atlantic City. Blockbusting and white flight encouraged by government policies.
September 7, 2011 2:59 PM - dibs
Just made a ton of chicken salad to take out on the boat tomorrow. Hopefully we'll have some good weather tomorrow.

Next year I'm coming out here in July. These Fall tropical storm issues are a PITA
September 7, 2011 3:00 PM - Legion
denton,
Agreed,
I didn't really take into account the yearly tax prep annoyance.
Looks like the umbrella policy is the way to go if there aren't several properties involved.
Edited at September 7, 2011 3:00 PM
September 7, 2011 3:00 PM - Deleted
"What did not happen in most other cities was huge park expansions during the same time."

Exactly, and to that I would add: a series of bridges that are iconic.

.
September 7, 2011 3:01 PM - Donatella
I went to a family cookout/BBQ at an old friend's over Labor Day weekend. We have been friends since the late '60s and this guy is a kind of musicologist of soul, jazz. R&B, blues. some Latin stuff and has an encyclopedic knowledge of everything Motown. He put together a fabulous collection of stuff on a couple of CDs. He is not stuck in time though (now I know something about the Pussycat Dolls. :-( )He had us guessing on different cuts ("who's this? Don't know???? Madonna!!!) and a couple of other new groups. As the day wore on (and he drank more Coronas), he insisted on singing along (can't sing to save his life) It was fun. We have been trading You Tubes.

D-Cat shared a charming duet from Magic Flute the other day (Pappageno and Pappagena singing Pa Pa Pa) Bryn Tryfl and Cecilia Bartoli.

Check this out -- Rolando Villazon and Placido Domingo singing a duet from the Pearl Fishers. (LOVE Villazon)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI3iKuaKwyg

September 7, 2011 3:05 PM - Legion
donatella,
I've been following your posts about the storm damage.
I didn't realize there was significant damage to the tenant's private property as well.
That's a tough situation. No wonder you felt relieved after having coffee and a sit down with the tenant.
September 7, 2011 3:05 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i much prefer the term suburban moon landings to white flight. ironic how america was SO obsessed with the moon at the same time america's great cities began to crumble!


*rob*

September 7, 2011 3:05 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Dibs- favorite band/musician.....
September 7, 2011 3:06 PM - Deleted
Rf;

This is a complex subject. WHO decided to make the Rockaways and Coney Island a dumping ground for welfare cases? Why it was the liberal establishment at the time. Remember the city's "model cities" program?

Rather than owning up to policy mistakes of the past -which are bound to happen even with the best of intentions - they have built up this myth of Robert Moses as the all-purpose bogeyman. HE is responsible for what happened in Coney Island, the Rockaways and in NYC in general. Hence, the sub-title of Caro's hit piece of a book: "The Fall of New York". It's ridiculous. As Scott just pointed out, these policies were enacted nationwide, and often with the best of intentions by the liberal establishment.
September 7, 2011 3:08 PM - dibs
Couldn't pick a single favorite but if had to it'd be the Stones.
Edited at September 7, 2011 3:08 PM
September 7, 2011 3:12 PM - dibs
Nice move in the market today. I believe it's oversold...and gold is overbought. Tremendous values out there in high quality stocks with really juicy yields and, a portfolio of those stocks (my IRA) has dramatically outperformed the makret from the July peak to the lows!!!
September 7, 2011 3:13 PM - Donatella
Legion, there really WASNT any damage to the tenant's private property. We dodged the bullet on that one. It was just that there COULD have been damage. Also, the repairs were really quite disruptive to her. Ideally she would have been out of the apartment. For example if I decided to redo her floors (though the floors are ok now that they are dried out) she would have to be out of there. My insurance does not cover a hotel or alternative living arrangements. However renter's policies do. What we had was literally a perfect storm of the storm, my building maintenance issues, her exhausting travel schedule and the impending visit of her mother's one week visit. We had to move very quickly and the job was much bigger than it appeared initially.
September 7, 2011 3:15 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Dave, read the Keith Richards book if you haven't. It's awesome.
September 7, 2011 3:16 PM - Donatella
I found some old CDs to burn a CD for him. Anybody remember Joan Armatrading?
September 7, 2011 3:21 PM - Legion
I see donatella,
sounds like it turned out well after a herculean effort.
If you have the roof redone like you mentioned, it should put an end to that problem.
It seems like the homeowner is in a constant battle against water in particular.
I spent a large portion of my off hours last week caulking every single crack and crevice on the Eastern exposed side of my home. I think I found the main source of a small but persistent leak that has been annoying me for years: a small attic window with a crumbling seal at the base of the frame. It just fell apart in my hands.
September 7, 2011 3:21 PM - Deleted
i could never get into the stones.
September 7, 2011 3:23 PM - dibs
I don't doubt that, dh. I'm sure Devo is more your style.
September 7, 2011 3:23 PM - Legion
benson,
In your travels,
which New York neighborhood has surprised you the most in its change over the years?
September 7, 2011 3:25 PM - Deleted
oh please dibs - if your musical preferences are anything like your beer preferences i'm sure they're dated and mainstream
September 7, 2011 3:26 PM - Legion
lol,
admit it DH,
you have a secret stash of Spandau Ballet albums. ;o)
September 7, 2011 3:26 PM - dibs
Have a craft wheat beer, dh. Something that won't be around next year so you can savor it in the moment.
September 7, 2011 3:26 PM - Deleted
busted
September 7, 2011 3:27 PM - dibs
Probably some Nilly Vanilly too, Legion. And the Cranberries
Edited at September 7, 2011 3:27 PM
September 7, 2011 3:28 PM - Deleted
i'll buy you a harp (next time i actually encounter one)
September 7, 2011 3:28 PM - Legion
...wait, I have a Cranberries album. :o(
September 7, 2011 3:29 PM - Deleted
beer is just fizzy water you drink inbetween whiskeys anyways
September 7, 2011 3:30 PM - dibs
Go to a real bar and you'll find Harp, not in those douchebaggery places you're now trying to escape from in Williamsburg!!!
Edited at September 7, 2011 3:30 PM
September 7, 2011 3:31 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
haha

*rob*

Edited at September 7, 2011 3:31 PM
September 7, 2011 3:36 PM - Deleted
good point - i need to be hanging where the 50 yr old hedge fund managers are.
Edited at September 7, 2011 3:36 PM
September 7, 2011 3:36 PM - Deleted
"which New York neighborhood has surprised you the most in its change over the years?"

Legion;

I'd have to answer that in two ways:

#1) Brownstone Brooklyn. My family was originally from the Red Hook/Cobble Hill/Sunset Park area (we called all of it "South Brooklyn"). When I was a kid, we would go to visit relatives there and I would think to myself "Who would want to live here?" It just seemed so old, run-down and obsolete. My father had a friend who was an upholsterer and with that modest living, was able to buy about 5 brownstones around Smith and 3rd Street. When I was about 10, he decided to pack it in and move to Florida, and he had to practically give those homes away!! He actually made up flyers and attached them to the street lamps.

#2 ) Mill Basin. When I was a kid, Mill Basin was the "dream" neighborhood for every white ethnic person living in Brooklyn. At that time it was not so over-the-top as it is today. It just represented a nice suburban-style neighborhood, right in the city. It is still hard for me to accept that it is now scorned by some people, given how it used to be so admired.
.
September 7, 2011 3:36 PM - Legion
...one thing you'll still find in the Rockaways; the old style neighborhood pub.
There are no less than 4 within a one block radius of the Rockaway Beach 116th St. Station (last stop in Rockaway Park).
These are places with dim lighting, vinyl booths and the sports channel on. The hippest thing you'll see is a bottle of Canadian Club.
September 7, 2011 3:38 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: You need harp or bass to make a proper black and tan.
Edited at September 7, 2011 3:38 PM
September 7, 2011 3:39 PM - dibs
"good point - i need to be hanging where the 50 yr old hedge fund managers are."

Silverdaddies????
September 7, 2011 3:40 PM - Legion
ha benson,
Imagine that! giving away homes in PS!
Sheepshead Bay and Flushing top my list.
September 7, 2011 3:42 PM - Legion
...and TriBeCa.
Edited at September 7, 2011 3:42 PM
September 7, 2011 3:42 PM - Deleted
i'm actually a beer pussy - i'm allergic to something in it (i think hops) and if i drink one of those really bold craft IPAs it makes me all stuffed up and clammy.
September 7, 2011 3:44 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
"which New York neighborhood has surprised you the most in its change over the years?"

i would say park slope. definitely a LOT more crime over the last few years.
lol

*rob*

September 7, 2011 3:44 PM - dibs
Just gave our cat Howard a new Phillies collar.
Edited at September 7, 2011 3:44 PM
September 7, 2011 3:48 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
LOL your cat totally has gayface

*rob*

September 7, 2011 3:49 PM - dibs
And you don't???????
September 7, 2011 3:51 PM - Donatella
Legion, yes, it ended well. I learned a lot from this, because I thought the fix I did last year would last and I really closed my eyes to the possibility that it wouldn't. I am ok for now, but I need to start getting up there myself in the future and I think a new hatch door would help. And of course, the new roof. So I know what I will be doing next May. Re water being the enemy, on previous ocassions I have shared in the chaos from my neighbors -- broken outdoor hose pipes, their unbelievable roof problems (take my situation and mulitply by 100) which caved in every ceiling in the house and destroyed electrical a few years ago and which affected part of my downstairs and flooded by basement. This is a humbling enterprise - owning one of these places, but I learned a lot this time.

Also, it forced me to tackle a few organization issues and my place (if I do say so myself) looks quite beautiful today!
September 7, 2011 4:04 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: I just had a thought- maybe rob is actually straight but thinks he's gay and that is what has led to his autosexualality or whatever you call it....

DISCUSS....
September 7, 2011 4:06 PM - Donatella
Re neighborhood, changes........I remember Smith Street in the 80s. You didn't want to walk there; it was scary. Also 5th Avenue. Same deal. That was the wrong side of the tracks. And just the name Bed Sty was enough to strike fear into your heart. My friend went to Pratt in the early 70s. His mother used to worry about him. The middle class fled from many of these neighborhoods and NY was a real basketcase in general in the 70s. The renaissance is associated with the drop in crime, low interest rates and well all the shit we already know.
September 7, 2011 4:07 PM - Deleted
randi, we've met rob. he definitely comes across gay.
September 7, 2011 4:07 PM - Donatella
DISCUSS....

Hmm....interesting that you use the imperative. In capital letters no less. Re your command.....No.
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:07 PM
September 7, 2011 4:08 PM - dibs
Dona, it's randi's way of acting butch!
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:08 PM
September 7, 2011 4:10 PM - Deleted
It seems that *Rob* generates so many comments every day that he should have his own thread!
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:10 PM
September 7, 2011 4:13 PM - Donatella
It must be embarrassing to order people around and have no one obey.
September 7, 2011 4:15 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
hey folks...quick question...other than the strand and b&n, where can i find a hard-to-locate book and not pay through the nose? have any go-to sites that you use?
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:15 PM
September 7, 2011 4:15 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: It must be embarrassing to be named Donatella.
September 7, 2011 4:16 PM - Donatella
Snappy, I bet Arkady knows, but I have found lots of stuff on Amazon! They have used books and I have found out of print stuff there.
September 7, 2011 4:17 PM - Donatella
I am not named Donatella. But I am Donatella to you, Randi.
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:17 PM
September 7, 2011 4:17 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
of course i come ACROSS as gay, im genetically gay. (i guess if you believe in that kinda stuff).

*rob*

September 7, 2011 4:17 PM - dibs
That's not her real name. Is yours really Randolph???? Do you still hate your parents??? :)
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:17 PM
September 7, 2011 4:17 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
DonaT, Amazon has what I'm looking for, but I don't wanna pay $95 for it! I'm trying to be cheap here :-)
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:17 PM
September 7, 2011 4:18 PM - Arkady
Umbrellas are definitely the way to go. Any LLC-type thing entails accountants & filings, etc. & is not worth the tsuris.
Does anyone have a note about or remember from the 'Stoner Forum what "desk" landlords are advised to go to when there were tenant problems? Someone like Vinca always made a recommendation.
September 7, 2011 4:19 PM - Donatella
Hmmm.....I seem to remember Arkady talking about another on line service.....can't remember though. She is probably the best to ask.
September 7, 2011 4:19 PM - Deleted
Just in case anyone was wondering...

......I am not Robert Moses (though I which I could match his level of achievement).
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:19 PM
September 7, 2011 4:20 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Arkady, 4th floor in the civil ct on livingston street. office is right outside the elevators
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:20 PM
September 7, 2011 4:20 PM - Deleted
hey donatella - i command you to say more snarky stuff to randi
September 7, 2011 4:21 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Is there a gay gene rob?
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:21 PM
September 7, 2011 4:21 PM - Donatella
Arkady he always recommended a free advice forum at Housing court.... I think he said they had one on Thursday afternoons.
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:21 PM
September 7, 2011 4:21 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
arkady, any idea for my ? at 4:15?
September 7, 2011 4:24 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
what'd i miss? what did i command? am i going crazy? (don't answer that!)
September 7, 2011 4:24 PM - Deleted
snappy - she blamed u cuz my avatar is meechie ho!
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:24 PM
September 7, 2011 4:25 PM - Donatella
Well, DH, since you commanded me in lower case......let me think of something...

Notice how well, I caught my mistake and edited it. I am doing this without my glasses and unfortunately I am now officially blind. My reading glasses are 3.0 which means anything 3 feet or less is a blur.
September 7, 2011 4:25 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Fuck you Rick Ross, why are you encouraging her?!
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:25 PM
September 7, 2011 4:26 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
LOL!
September 7, 2011 4:26 PM - Donatella
No snappy dh was ordering me around but I thought it was you.....it wasn't the avatar, I just blurred messages together.
September 7, 2011 4:27 PM - Deleted
i commanded her thinking she'd stop !! hahaha
September 7, 2011 4:27 PM - Deleted
Another resource is the Small Property Owners Association of NY's website:

http://www.spony.org/
September 7, 2011 4:29 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Us open is so fucked with this rain. I can't believe they don't have one court with a roof.
September 7, 2011 4:30 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I know, Randi. That drives me nuts too. You would think they'd invest in a retractable roof at least for Arthur Ashe Stadium.
September 7, 2011 4:34 PM - Legion
donatella,
Just be very careful on that roof.
Never go near the edge, these structures are old and not reliable.

snappy,
I've always found any book I was looking for on ebay.
...and cheap!
September 7, 2011 4:35 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Is there a gay gene rob?

i dont know. supposedly, isnt there? i believe im gay based on the fetal stress / chemical theory of turning out gay. makes sense as both myself and the other male that biological mother varted out are both gay!

*rob*

September 7, 2011 4:36 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
both turned out gay, same mother, raised in completely different households and families!!! i wonder if we can get paid for gay research studies!!!


*rob*

Edited at September 7, 2011 4:36 PM
September 7, 2011 4:37 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
if youre getting used books off the internet make SURE you put those books in the microwave first.

*rob*

September 7, 2011 4:38 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Snappy did u read the times article about how the umpires only make $250 a day!? I make like 3x that and I don't do shit!
September 7, 2011 4:38 PM - Arkady
The question I asked is for someone in Queens so need the name of the 'facility' or desk or whatever.
Snaps - Alibris usually has stuff - it goes from 99¢ to hundreds of dollars depending on the state the book is in - not so much rarity. S/H is usually $3.50 or so.
I know a couple other sites I have to look at faves for - I'll email them to you.
September 7, 2011 4:39 PM - More4Less
that's Rick Ross???? Thought DH was sporting a fat Mr T avatar - MINUS them gold chains he had to cash in for living expenses
September 7, 2011 4:39 PM - Donatella
Legion, I accept the fact that I was not fully aware of my roof situation because I am AFRAID of eveyrthing about the roof, the hatch, hanging from the ladder, climging out of the hatch and balancing myself as I hoist myself up on the roof. As far as walking around up there, I pretty much stayed away from the edges. The roofers did a lot of caulking under the gutters which requires reaching and slight hanging. NO THANKS. But I should be up there checking on the gutters.
September 7, 2011 4:39 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Varted

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahhahaha
September 7, 2011 4:39 PM - Legion
...I put a copy of The One Minute Chef in the microwave, to disinfect, and it disappeared. :o(
September 7, 2011 4:41 PM - More4Less
Randi, ball boy/girl make nada but they have front front front row seats ANDDDDDD they (Umps) have oppty to be chewed out by Serena if they chose to make a certain call at a key point
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:42 PM
September 7, 2011 4:42 PM - Legion
donatella,
If I have to do work near the edge,
I never stand, I always lie down and lower my center of gravity.
September 7, 2011 4:43 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: The winner of the open gets like a million bucks, you'd think they could invest a little more to make sure the calls are right.
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:42 PM
September 7, 2011 4:43 PM - Arkady
abe books. half.com. booksamillion. bibliocity. powells.com
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:43 PM
September 7, 2011 4:43 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Arkady, Queens has same program. I don't know what floor it's on, but they can find out by calling the civil court in Queens.

Randi, that pay rate is crazy!

Legion, Thanks...will check EBay!
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:43 PM
September 7, 2011 4:44 PM - More4Less
Randi, that's all you make??? only $750 a day??? I make that in a week but then I'm doing chinese takeout delivery banking on generosity of customers like you
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:44 PM
September 7, 2011 4:45 PM - dibs
"But I should be up there checking on the gutters."

I've found some of my best hustlers when I'm in the gutters
September 7, 2011 4:45 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Yeah I'm pretty flush these days!
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:45 PM
September 7, 2011 4:46 PM - Donatella
Legion, I am guessing there is a special caulking material for masonry. The roofers put flashing everywhere, which is that tar stuff but for patching holes in masonry (which was THE problem) what kind of material do they use for caulking??
September 7, 2011 4:47 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
damn...ebay wants 276 for it!!!
September 7, 2011 4:47 PM - dibs
Yes, there is masonry caulk
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:47 PM
September 7, 2011 4:48 PM - dibs
What are you buying, the El Bulli cookbook?????
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:48 PM
September 7, 2011 4:50 PM - Legion
There is a masonry caulk,
it's grey and comes in one of those cylindrical tubes.
They have it at home depot.
Usually they are a mixture of acrylic with some silicone along with the usual bonding agents.
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:50 PM
September 7, 2011 4:50 PM - Donatella
dibs, is it plastic? Do you have to mix it?

All I ever found in the gutters were decomposing leaves.... and you guys. hahahahaa.a........
September 7, 2011 4:51 PM - Donatella
Tks, Dibs and Legion.
September 7, 2011 4:51 PM - dibs
Legion, do you know what's grey and comes in quarts?
September 7, 2011 4:52 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
crap on a cracker. prices go all the way up to over 700. i guess the 95 is the best it will get :-(
September 7, 2011 4:52 PM - Legion
... I'm almost afraid to ask.
What?
September 7, 2011 4:52 PM - dibs
An elephant.
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:52 PM
September 7, 2011 4:53 PM - dibs
Snapy, what book are you looking for??

Check Amazon
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September 7, 2011 4:53 PM - Legion
:o(
September 7, 2011 4:53 PM - Arkady
Public Svc Announcement: Disposing of Bedbug Infested Household Items
Did you know that you could receive a $100 summons for placing a mattress or box spring out for bulk curbside collection if it is not properly enclosed in a sealed plastic bag?
Apparently, some of our residents are still unaware that this rule was adopted by the City in order to help control the spread of bedbugs. We assured our local Department of Sanitation representatives that we would help spread the word, not the bedbugs.
The City's Department of Health and Mental Hygiene has created a central resource for bedbug information on their website which contains lots of helpful hints in how to prevent them and get rid of them if you've got them. They've even got a downloadable guide to how to dispose of infested household items so you won't risk spreading them further.
But all mattresses or box springs, whether infested or not, must be enclosed in a sealed plastic bag. If you do not receive one when you purchase a new mattress or box spring, then check with any retailer who sells bedding furniture or your local hardware store.

September 7, 2011 4:54 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Dave, it's a practical law book. amazon wants $95. i was hoping to get it for less, but it's the lowest price out there :-(
September 7, 2011 4:54 PM - Legion
What about a Sperm Whale?
That's gotta be a tough name to live up to.
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September 7, 2011 4:55 PM - Arkady
Snaps - Google "cheap law books" there are special sites for those.
Edited at September 7, 2011 4:55 PM
September 7, 2011 4:56 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
tried that, arkady. price jumped to 500 and up!
September 7, 2011 4:58 PM - More4Less
Randi, if you order takeout when it rains like this, share some of that new found "flush"
September 7, 2011 4:59 PM - Arkady
Did you try text books? There was a piece in the Times recently about cheap text books. I'll see if I can find it.
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September 7, 2011 5:01 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
it's not a textbook.
Edited at September 7, 2011 5:01 PM
September 7, 2011 5:01 PM - More4Less
Snaps, craigslist, sex4books exchange,....
September 7, 2011 5:01 PM - Arkady
Sent it to 3434 - looks as if there are some places I didn't know about.
September 7, 2011 5:02 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
m4l, i don't want the book that badly!!!
September 7, 2011 5:02 PM - Arkady
A book can be called 'text' if a professor has ever required it.
September 7, 2011 5:03 PM - Deleted
practical law? sounds oxymoronic!!
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September 7, 2011 5:04 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
lol dh!
September 7, 2011 5:04 PM - More4Less
Snaps, focus girl. you should be focusing on the sex portion instead of the book
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September 7, 2011 5:04 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
a law student would have no use for this. it's not anything taught in law school.
Edited at September 7, 2011 5:04 PM
September 7, 2011 5:04 PM - dibs
I've had sex in a library. And of course an adult book store (they used to be only books, before videos!!!!!!
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September 7, 2011 5:06 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
:-( those other sites link back to other sellers with the extravagant prices.
September 7, 2011 5:08 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
::sigh::

$95 it is.

booooooo!
September 7, 2011 5:09 PM - Donatella
If my world traveler tenants come back wth bedbugs, I most definately will not flip out. No I will not freak out. I will not run arms flailing out of my building. I will calmly call up a bedbug freezer guy and deal with it with a measured logic, the way I do everything with this building.
September 7, 2011 5:10 PM - dibs
Dona, Ortho makes a spray now. I suppose it will have a residual smell that the freezing won't but not sure
September 7, 2011 5:12 PM - Deleted
Trivia quiz: what famous porn movie was shot on location in Brooklyn College and Pratt Institute (both colleges were duped by the producers, who told them that they were making a documentary)?
September 7, 2011 5:12 PM - Donatella
Snappy, you could buy it from Amazon for 95 and sell it for 495 on the law book site. Jeez, don't these people talk to one another.
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September 7, 2011 5:14 PM - minard lafever
I was walking down Broad Street and when I got to Wall, I saw an impressive military band, all spit and polish, standing at attention in front of the old Pierpont Morgan Building. They started to play, it was so moving. They looked like toy soldiers but the music was so crisp and clear. The tourists were eating it up but so was I. It was beautiful even in the drizzle.

September 7, 2011 5:15 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
LOL DonaT...not a bad idea!
September 7, 2011 5:15 PM - Donatella
That's interesting about the spray. I just assumed everything you could buy over the counter was ineffective. When *rob* would go on and on about bedbugs, I decided to learn a few things about bedbugs, I would go to different websites and read about them. Then I would itch. Really a lot. So I had to stop acquiring expertise in this area. So I have not been keeping up with the latest developments.
September 7, 2011 5:16 PM - More4Less
amazon kindle tablet out in Oct. $250. 7". just in case someone pondering tablet purchase soon
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September 7, 2011 5:16 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Minard, I may have to check that out tomorrow. I'd assume it's for 9/11 and may go all week?
September 7, 2011 5:17 PM - rf
Bedbug advice:
http://parkslopeparents.com/index.php?option=com_wordpress&p=2872&Itemid=711

There's the link to the website below which also has fact sheets and other info besides the dog stuff:
http://www.bedbugsuperdogs.com/
September 7, 2011 5:17 PM - Deleted
Answer: Debbie Does Dallas
September 7, 2011 5:18 PM - Legion
"Trivia quiz: what famous porn movie was shot on location in Brooklyn College and Pratt Institute "

Hello Dolly. ;o)
September 7, 2011 5:19 PM - Donatella
I heard that Droid's new phone is really good. Does anyone know anything about it? I decided I need a smart phone. Not the "not so dumb" phone I have now. I am now receiving messages from people who expect to be answered re my "quest" and without one, I miss messages if I am out. It takes me 5 minutes to get logged into a very user unfriendly browser on my phone now. So it is an iphone or a Droid.
September 7, 2011 5:20 PM - minard lafever
snappy, I assume it was for 9-11. It was so unlike me to actually stop and listen. They were a top notch band. All so young, they were probably barely teens in 2001. It choked me up a little.
September 7, 2011 5:23 PM - DeLepp
dona, the only question you should be answering is "Yes I would love for you to take me to Eleven Madison for lunch".
September 7, 2011 5:25 PM - More4Less
Donatella, iphone 5 rumored to be out this month so you'll probably get hands on one in late Oct / early Nov
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September 7, 2011 5:26 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
DonaT, I've heard the iphone os is better than the droid os, but apple likes to come out with updates too often for my tastes, and with a phone as opposed to a computer, you may not be able to update the software without buying a new phone. ex....you buy iphone 5 today and iphone 6 may come out with better functionality in a year or less. apple is a bit loony like that. i think they feel such a rush (for whatever reason) to hurry up and put a product out and then just keep updating sh!t instead of waiting to put out something that will be the standard for a few years.
September 7, 2011 5:27 PM - dibs
I don't want to hear the bagpipes. After 9-11 happened, I was living on east 54th St and walking to work and EVERY SINGLE MORNING there'd be a fireman's or policeman's funeral at St Pat's as I walked by with the bagpipes going and everyone would stop out of respect and ALWAYS, no casket, just someone carrying a small box.

I can't help getting choked up everytime I relate this story and HATE the bagpipes now. My brother plays them too.
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September 7, 2011 5:27 PM - Donatella
Wow, rf, you read Park Slope parents??? oh, right.... You were telling me about the advice they gave on taking toddlers to restaurants. Last night was a JOKE. The kid was WAILING for fun. Just letting out blood-curdling screams. My friend and I were unable to talk. No forget about talking. We couldn't even think. I couldn't eat my salad. It was like having a nail gun shot through my head. Actually the kid (3yrs?) was with her mother and another woman who looked like it was their chance to catch up and they were taking turns amusing the kid who would let out these screams. So we went to the bar area and then we had to contend with the drunks. Scopellos S@#Ks.
September 7, 2011 5:28 PM - Bedstuymaven
Snappy try http://www.biblio.com/ for the book
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September 7, 2011 5:29 PM - dibs
I would have asked them to remove the child if it was that bad. If it was as loud as you are saying I would have asked the manager to intervene. There's no excuse for that shit

Scopello's has the best short rib of anyone
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September 7, 2011 5:30 PM - Deleted
I recently attended a bagpipe concert by the Canadian Royal Mounted Police band. It was quite good.
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September 7, 2011 5:30 PM - Legion
Is Two Boots still open in Park Slope?
Used to be you could sit there for dinner and have your meal punctuated by a well rounded wad of pizza dough
hitting you upside the head.
It was cool though, everyone knew it was a place for neighborhood parents to let the kids run wild.
September 7, 2011 5:31 PM - wendybear1
Dona, I'd go for the Droid. I have one of the original Motorola Droid phones, and I love it. Apple products hate me so I don't have an iPhone. I refuse to purchase any iProducts, because of the hatred Apple products have proven to have of me.

Not that I'm bitter... Ok, maybe I am. (grumbling)
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September 7, 2011 5:31 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
thanks, bsm...they don't have it :-(
September 7, 2011 5:32 PM - minard lafever
Donna, I have a droid. it's too cool for school.
Love it.

September 7, 2011 5:32 PM - Donatella
Delepp, bless you. You have such a crystal clear sense of priorities. Ahhhh......how right you are.

Snappy and M4L, it sounds like getting the latest iphone is what I will do. I sent an email to a guy asking
for a phone meeting in the am. I didn't hear back from him for a few hours and went out. Then I came back
to find he asked me to call him when I was out. THis can't happen now. For work I had a blackberry, now I
need something/have to stop fooling around.
September 7, 2011 5:32 PM - rf
About to leave the house with the cart for laundromat and there's another cloudburst. Shit.
September 7, 2011 5:32 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ok...time for me to dash. nite everybody :-)
September 7, 2011 5:35 PM - rf
I have an android phone and I really like checking my email or facebook while waiting on line at the supermarket. Learning to type on the virtual keyboard is a work in progress but it's a lot more than a phone.

AT&T sells older refurbished iphones really cheap:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/packages/iphone-packages.jsp

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September 7, 2011 5:38 PM - Legion
OT homework for tonight:
Watch the Republican Debates live.
;o)
September 7, 2011 5:39 PM - rf
One of the very pleasant surprises with my Android phone is the GPS--completely free! It has come in very, very handy this summer!
Edited at September 7, 2011 5:39 PM
September 7, 2011 5:39 PM - rf
Donatella check yr email.
Edited at September 7, 2011 5:39 PM
September 7, 2011 5:40 PM - minard lafever
The droid is a little smaller and lighter than the iphone, which I like because I carry it in my pocket.
The hardest thing to get used to is how sensitive the screen is to any little accidental touch.
But the virtual keyboard is much more convenient than the itty-bitty one on a crackberry.

September 7, 2011 5:41 PM - Donatella
Maybe I need to go to Verizon and just do a comparison. I remember having all these communication issues with my ex-boyfriend re the iphone -- dropped calls, late texts --- but that was ATT. So many calls dropped and so many issues with his phone. I used to say "Gimme that" and I would wack it or take it apart, stick my earring post into it....to fix things. He used to wreck it regularly too, like the time he dropped it on a boat and it got salt water on it and it died. But that would happen to any phone.

Dibs, I was actually on a date and looking over at the women who were with the kid, they looked like ruffians, like they would be the "hands on hip, make a scene" types and I just figured that it would be better to just move. The waiters couldn't believe it themselves and they should have dealt with it.
Edited at September 7, 2011 5:41 PM
September 7, 2011 5:42 PM - wendybear1
Minard, my Droid has a physical keyboard. There are a lot of models of android based phones. I have the Droid, made by Motorola.
Edited at September 7, 2011 5:43 PM
September 7, 2011 5:43 PM - Donatella
Minard, why did you choose it over an iphone? Was it before Verizon got the iphone?
September 7, 2011 5:43 PM - cobblehiller
I just got this phone about 2 months ago: http://samsung.t-mobile.com/gravity-smart

It's great, the keyboard makes it much easier to do email/text. Making calls was a little bit of a challenge at first, but otherwise it's all pretty easy to figure out.

FYI, I had my old (first cell) phone for SIX years!! It was a Sony Ericsson and that phone "took a licking and kept on ticking"!
September 7, 2011 5:43 PM - DeLepp
Oscar De La Hoya admits drag photos are real
Remember those scandalous photos of boxing legend Oscar De La Hoya wearing fishnets and lingerie from 2007? And how he insisted they were fake? Well, the boxer is finally admitting it’s him in those pictures, reports the New York Post.

In an interview with “Aqui y Ahora” (Here and Now), a news show on Univision, the “Golden Boy” owns up to the cross-dressing images after all these years, and places the blame on a combination of alcohol and cocaine
hahahaha
September 7, 2011 5:50 PM - Legion
A cross-dressing boxing champ?
...next you'll tell me the director of the FBI wears a tutu!
September 7, 2011 5:52 PM - Donatella
Thank you, rf.
September 7, 2011 5:52 PM - dibs
Oscar was muy caliente in his younger years.

Dona, those are the best types to engage!!!!!!!
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September 7, 2011 5:53 PM - minard lafever
Dona my IT person recommended it.
She said it was superior to the iphone in terms of call quality.
I like it because it is so thin and elegant and fits in any pocket.
It is an htc model.
September 7, 2011 5:56 PM - dibs
He's not as hot as my Mex bf in drag, that's for sure
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September 7, 2011 5:56 PM - minard lafever
Oscar is very nice looking. He was lucky that all those years of boxing did not leave a mark on him.
September 7, 2011 5:56 PM - cobblehiller
DIBS, Which perennials did you plant, aside from the fig?
September 7, 2011 5:56 PM - minard lafever
OK, that is NOT Oscar.
September 7, 2011 5:57 PM - dibs
Cobble...let me find the list
September 7, 2011 5:57 PM - minard lafever
The fig? is that what they're calling it now?

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September 7, 2011 5:59 PM - dibs
black eyed susans
shasta daisies
Gaura "sistiyou pink"
stella d'oro
plumbago
monkshood
blue anise
veronica
purple snakeroot
color spires
Edited at September 7, 2011 5:59 PM
September 7, 2011 6:02 PM - cobblehiller
Fantastic list! I love Plumbago!
Edited at September 7, 2011 6:02 PM
September 7, 2011 6:02 PM - Donatella
Thanks, Minard. I am going to do a little research. My sister has a Droid. I'll ask her too.

Dibs, it definitely would have been a colorful interchange. If I knew my dinner companion a little better, I might have gone for it.

Delepp, I googled those pictures of De la Hoya. haha. What was he thinking. He looks pretty cute though. I wonder what size pumps he wears..
September 7, 2011 6:02 PM - cobblehiller
Oooh, blue anise is nice, too!
September 7, 2011 6:04 PM - dibs
Better drag....
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September 7, 2011 6:05 PM - Arkady
I have an HTC Android Inspire & think it's very good. Quite intuitive to use (& I'm not usually good at those things.)
September 7, 2011 6:05 PM - BoerumHillScott
Everyone I know with an iPhone loves it.
Everyone I know with an Android phone loves it.

Philosophical/Religious/Brand loyalty issues aside, I think you would be happy with either, assuming you can learn to use the virtual keyboard well.
Otherwise, go with an Android with a physical keyboard, but be prepared to have a thicker/heavier phone.
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September 7, 2011 6:07 PM - minard lafever
dave, that is such a prim and proper list of plantings. My goodness. Very botanically correct.

September 7, 2011 6:08 PM - dibs
I need a new phone when I get back but I don't want a touch screen. Most are too big
September 7, 2011 6:08 PM - cobblehiller
Having the physical keyboard makes up for any additional weight/thickness, for me.
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September 7, 2011 6:10 PM - dibs
Also have coneflowers and bee balm. Tried to plant them with the highest up against the house. Lots of evergreens there already and of course, the blue hydrangeas.
Edited at September 7, 2011 6:10 PM
September 7, 2011 6:10 PM - cobblehiller
Geez, They're saying they still intend to finish the Open on time! How the heck are they going to do this?
September 7, 2011 6:11 PM - cobblehiller
Bee Balm is really nice, I had one of those in my old garden. Blue hydrangeas are classic.
September 7, 2011 6:11 PM - Arkady
I struggled w/ the virtual keyboard but adapted quickly - it's apparently unwieldy but not truly. (Mind you, I don't type as quickly as, say CatGar w/ his magic fingers on the BB.)
September 7, 2011 6:12 PM - dibs
I know someone with "magic fingers"
September 7, 2011 6:13 PM - BoerumHillScott
I don't think I would ever have a phone that was touch screen only. My fingers have a very hard time, and I have no precision when using them.
I love my blackberry, but at whatever point in the future I decide on a different brand, it will have a physical keyboard.
September 7, 2011 6:14 PM - minard lafever
Everyone I know with an iPhone loves it.
Everyone I know with an Android phone loves it.

I think all of these gadgets are annoying at first. But then you start to figure out their logic and bond. Its like picking up a stray puppy.

September 7, 2011 6:14 PM - Arkady
Duke Univ. has a contest for best definition of an annually selected term. Here's this year's winner:
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."

September 7, 2011 6:16 PM - Legion
the new blackberry 9930 gets 5 ***** from the reviews on verizon
the iphone gets 4.5*****


September 7, 2011 6:17 PM - minard lafever
I like the virtual keyboard. when you turn the thing horizontally, it is nice and convenient. The instant correct feature is another matter.

September 7, 2011 6:19 PM - DeadCatBounce
DonaT: Do NOT get an iphone on Verizon. I loved my iphone on AT&T but the service occasionally was spotty.
The phone I got from Verizon is horrible. It does things on it's own, such as call people. It tries to turn every call into "face time" , even though I have facetime disabled. Many other recurring problems which I never had with AT&T.
Maybe I just got a lemon, though.
September 7, 2011 6:24 PM - Arkady
Minard - You can disable the instant correct feature.
September 7, 2011 6:25 PM - minard lafever
Arkady, that's one to remember, "pick up a piece of shit by the clean end"

September 7, 2011 6:27 PM - minard lafever
You can disable the instant correct feature
Arkady, I have actually gotten used to it and am dealing with it on its on terms, it can be a time saver.

September 7, 2011 6:33 PM - rf
The new blackberry got a very lukewarm review from david
pogue in the times. Very nice but very 2009.
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September 7, 2011 6:38 PM - Legion
lol rf,
Does every aspect of your life revolve around the word of the NY Times?
the Verizon site has over 140 reviews with every one of them giving it 5 *****,
that's impressive.
Sometimes you have to trust the wisdom of the masses.
September 7, 2011 6:40 PM - dibs
Legion, the NY Times is a very well respected liberal mouthpiece. One should get their whole life from them
Edited at September 7, 2011 6:40 PM
September 7, 2011 6:41 PM - Legion
The basic gist of all the reviews I read is that there are no glitches or "issues"
with the blackberry operating system.

September 7, 2011 6:41 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Does anyone know anything about it? I decided I need a smart phone. Not the "not so dumb" phone I have now. I am now receiving messages from people who expect to be answered re my "quest" and without one, I miss messages if I am out. It takes me 5 minutes to get logged into a very user unfriendly browser on my phone now. So it is an iphone or a Droid.

i HATE how now everyone is expected to be available 24/7. sorry but there are times when people shouldnt have to be on beckon call. if i wanted to be id be a fucking ER doctor or an outcall prostitute. and jobs that expect people to be available 24/7 via their phone? oh hells to the no.


*rob*

September 7, 2011 6:42 PM - Legion
tehehe dibs,
I'll believe the Times when they pay for my cell phone. ;o)
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September 7, 2011 6:45 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i am truly convinced people buy smartphones cuz they think they are WAY more important than they really are. im pro technology,but some people just irk me the wrong way with how they use it and their reasons.


*rob*

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September 7, 2011 6:45 PM - minard lafever
rob, i actually agree with you. Except the term is "beck and call" -as in "beckon"
but anyway, you know, just because a phone rings, doesn't mean you have to answer.

Edited at September 7, 2011 6:45 PM
September 7, 2011 6:47 PM - Donatella
D-Cat, I blamed ATT for everything. I blamed the iphone on ATT for everything wrong with my trying to talk to erstwhile boyfriend who lost calls,who sent texts which arrived 2 days later, who would get to the important part of the sentence and then be gone, who would give me the time, but not the place or the place but not the time. I blamed it all on ATT. But maybe it was him all along...
September 7, 2011 6:47 PM - Legion
"if i wanted to be id be a fucking ER doctor or an outcall prostitute. and jobs that expect people to be available 24/7 via their phone? oh hells to the no."

I still get the cold sweats at night thinking of when I used to have to get called in at 3AM to drain a giant infected abscess or something. :o(



September 7, 2011 6:49 PM - Legion
...kid you not,
I once fell asleep at the light on the corner of Atlantic and Troy.
September 7, 2011 6:50 PM - minard lafever
legion, did you ever find out what kind of monster spider you had?
Did it have furry legs????
Could it have been......no......the dreaded wolf spider?
Common in Brooklyn evidently.

September 7, 2011 6:50 PM - Donatella
*rob* I feel the same way. I really do. I think we need to shut off. This is really for business because increasingly, people expect you to answer an email the way you would a telephone call. I think it is completely tragic when people become compulsively attached to checking the phone and ignore the people they are with to attend to every buzz, ring and vibration from this thing.
September 7, 2011 6:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im in a pissy mood. my commute was gross. so many people back on the train and i think even more cuz the reopened the courtlandt street station today? grrrr. i was able to get a seat, but this pisses me off, there was an inside seat and a chick sitting on the outside one, with her shopping bags on the inside seat and i said can i sit there and she flat out IGNORED me (she had her eyes clothes) but she wasnt alseep nor was she listening to music!!! f'ing bitch so i wormed my way in and she made an "ugh" noise and wound up just standing up lol. what a bitch, it's not like im one of those people who take up two seats!!! i usually take up half a seat cuz ill sit at the very edge or scrunch up against the window or sit at the edge if it's a side seat. i hate people like her.

*rob*

Edited at September 7, 2011 6:51 PM
September 7, 2011 6:51 PM - Legion
haha,
no. I never found out.
I know the wolf spider though, their legs are short and fuzzy.
This thing had long legs. I think it was some sort of orb weaver that got in through the side door.
The kids are still recovering from that fright.
September 7, 2011 6:52 PM - Donatella
oh also, D-Cat, my phone pocket calls people all the time, but mostly CGar for some reason.
September 7, 2011 6:53 PM - Legion
*rob*
I wish you would video your commute one day with personal commentary.

September 7, 2011 6:54 PM - Donatella
What turned out to be a harmless little safari turned into Jurassic Park, Legion.
Edited at September 7, 2011 6:54 PM
September 7, 2011 6:54 PM - Legion
...have a good night everyone.
:o)
September 7, 2011 6:56 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
LOL dave, is that a pic of your tranny boyfriend!?!? in the last picture he looks like just Rachel from Big Brother (that red head who used to be my avatar) but a brunette. she's gonna win this season i know it!!!! you might wanna pass off a little secret to him (her). facial oil wipe makeup pads are a GOOD thing. you can see the photographer's reflection on her ginormous manly cheekbone!



*rob*

September 7, 2011 6:57 PM - BoerumHillScott
The R is scheduled to run its normal route this weekend.

http://travel.mtanyct.info/serviceadvisory/routeStatusResult.aspx?tag=ALL&date=09/10/2011&time=&method=getstatus4
September 7, 2011 6:59 PM - dibs
He's not a tranny, rob. It was Halloween. He could probably break you in two in very short order!!!
Edited at September 7, 2011 6:59 PM
September 7, 2011 6:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
thanks scott!

*rob*

September 7, 2011 7:02 PM - rf
Ok legion, I will definitely trust the recommendations on the verizon website to buy a verizon phone. Bet they loved that iphone they sold dcb!
September 7, 2011 7:09 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
He could probably break you in two in very short order!!!

no doubt

*rob*

September 7, 2011 7:16 PM - dibs
OK...headed to Ciro & Sal's for dinner. getting the carbonara and the vitello picatto

http://www.ciroandsals.com/menu.html
September 7, 2011 7:24 PM - cobblehiller
"i HATE how now everyone is expected to be available 24/7. sorry but there are times when people shouldnt have to be on beckon call. "

As much as it irks me to agree with rob, I agree with rob.

I had a boss, an evil boss, who used to do things like email me at 11pm on a Friday night, when I was home in my jammies or out drinking, asking if I could go into the office and do various things that no sane person would ever think were important to do over the weekend. I HATED having a work BB. I hope I never need one again. She also made a point of telling people to call or email me while I was on vacation. She was truly incensed that I took a trip to a place that had no coverage!! (Too bad! That's why they call it a VACATION!)

(/end rant)
September 7, 2011 7:29 PM - minard lafever
cobble, that does sound like a truly evil person.
horrible actually.
I once had a boss who would look at me shocked and say: You're asking for Two weeks off?
I would say, yes, the house is rented that's it.
These guys and gals, they're just a little psychotic, they're just testing the limits of how far they can torture you.

September 7, 2011 7:31 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im making the week before payday giant white trash pasta salad and texas toast on the side that was on sale last week at associated. for the salad, rotilli? *the squiggly pastas*, chick peas, red kidney beans, a can of pink beans and there's 4-5 leftover salad dressings with not much left in them so i can squirt them all in the salad then chill it in the freezer.

1/2 dozen eggs, 2 packs of ramen, a freezer burnt bag of collared greens, a box of elbow pasta, a tiny bit of low fat sour cream, muffin mix, a jar of francesco rinaldi mushroom and veggie sauce, 1/2 a head of semi wilted iceberg lettuce, no wait,,, looking.. 2 cans of chick peas (goya!) and one can of pink, no red, packet of cornbread mix, and oddly THREE cannisters of bread crumbes? why did i keep buying new things of breadcrumbs when i was on that stupid turkey meatloaf kick a few weeks back!? anyway that's my weekend meal recipes... can anyone suggest any good meals to make out of those? oh wait, i also have 4 frozen english muffins!!! i need to plan just 4 decent square meals if possible out of that stuff.

*rob*

*rob*
September 7, 2011 7:33 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh and there's a bag of cheese ravioli. i think im okay...


*rob*
September 7, 2011 7:37 PM - minard lafever
rob, you know what's an excellent nutritious dinner? Goya black beans and rice. Throw in a banana and you have a perfectly balanced fantastico dinner.

September 7, 2011 7:37 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
exactly, i cant think of anyone else other than three professions that need work blackberries or to be on call 24/7 like that. doctors, prostitutes, and baby sitters. tho baby sitters dont have to be on call if they arent on the job so that makes no sense. but i guess prostitutes (high end ones) and doctors make enough that makes it worth it? i guess id be on call 24/7 if i made that much. wait a second, what about the president? !!! even HE turns off his phone sometimes!!! (well not really) but metaphorically he does.


*rob*



September 7, 2011 7:38 PM - cobblehiller
"These guys and gals, they're just a little psychotic, they're just testing the limits of how far they can torture you."

Sheesh, You're not kidding, Minard. Two weeks! LOL! I had to wait until I was unemployed to take a two week vacation!

I'd never had one before because all my bosses in the corporate world went ape sh*t when I even dared to suggest that I *might* be thinking about the idea of taking two whole weeks! (It was practically verboten! I had a friend who had to quit her job at one place to take 3 weeks to go to Thailand! That *criminal* that she was!) BAH! It's uncivilized, I tell you!
Edited at September 7, 2011 7:38 PM
September 7, 2011 7:39 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i think the problem really is a lot of people's ENTIRE identity is composed of what they do for a living and they expect everyone else is the same. hello! people need to compartmentalize their lives! and then you get some people who say, youll NEVER be successful in life if you check out out physically AND mentally when the bell rings. screw that.

*rob*

Edited at September 7, 2011 7:39 PM
September 7, 2011 7:39 PM - cobblehiller
"doctors, prostitutes, and baby sitters"

Well, I've been a baby sitter, but never a doctor or a prostitute! And they didn't have cell phones or BBs when I was a babysitter, back in the Stone Age.
Edited at September 7, 2011 7:39 PM
September 7, 2011 7:39 PM - minard lafever
Cobble, hon, you worked in shitty places.
Really there are better gigs.

September 7, 2011 7:41 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
black beans and rice IS good. my problem is that when i buy a big bag of rice, i look at it when im not broke and think omg that is SO gross. and then when im broke im like eh i can still do better. something about rice makes me feel gross after eating it, i think i dont cook it right, it comes out too fluffy and starchy i hate that kind of rice. but i love black beans and rice. i threw out my last giant bag of emergency rice cuz i thought after 2 years it would be contaminated. ugh id NEVER make it on survivor!

*rob*

September 7, 2011 7:43 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
there's a store near me hiring for part time position (not sure what) the sign says "Do you want the chance to be a Brandy Girl?" it's for lame girls clothing designer brandy melville. this is the kind of night or weekend part time job im looking for (retail) but is it legal for them to only allow girls to apply or can i be a brandy girl too? also lacoste is opening up in soho next month lol. should i apply there too? hahahaha. honestly ive done every kind job of that calibur in my life except retail (and waiting)... i feel like id be a total spazz at both.


*rob*

September 7, 2011 7:45 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Cobble, hon, you worked in shitty places.
Really there are better gigs.

you really can't say that anymore these days. really, there are NOT many better gigs out there and those "better gigs" are adopting more and more to the standards of the sucky ones!

*rob*

September 7, 2011 7:45 PM - minard lafever
rob, just buy a small box of Uncle Ben's minute rice and use a little at a time.

September 7, 2011 7:48 PM - minard lafever
rob, but you know what's really good? The Goya frozen fried plantains. You put them in the microwave and they are so so good with the black beans and rice. So gooey and sweet to balance out the salty and bland of the rice and beans.
I used to love that stuff when I lived by myself.

Edited at September 7, 2011 7:48 PM
September 7, 2011 7:50 PM - cobblehiller
"Cobble, hon, you worked in shitty places."

Tell me about it! And I've spent two years trying to get back into that EF'd up rat race! (Now doing something completely different, and trying to build up clients.)

I have a boss/client now, who is the best boss EVER on the face of god's green earth. I wish/pray/prostrate myself before the g*ds that she could afford to employ me full-time. This woman, is a real honest to goodness human being. I work for her hourly/freelance at a decent rate of pay. I handed her my first invoice with time knocked off for my lunch break - I thought it was fair. She handed it back to me and said "What's this?", I explained, and she said "Go fix this, I'd be embarrassed not to pay you for your lunch break." Btw, she ALSO buys or MAKES ME lunch!! And that's just for starters...she's awesome.


Edited at September 7, 2011 7:50 PM
September 7, 2011 7:54 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
minard, plantains make me barf. i grew up in a heavily hispanic neighborhood and used to get fed by lots of friends families and while i loved most of the food (except for the meats) the plantains made me wanna barf. im not a fan of regular bananas either. also i try to stay away from fried foods. when im really broke i just buy a few potatos and bake them. ive always noticed that eating fried foods when you dont have a lot of money just makes you hungrier for more food) if that makes any sense. it's ONE of the reasons why poor people turn obese.

*rob*


*rob*

September 7, 2011 7:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
She handed it back to me and said "What's this?", I explained, and she said "Go fix this, I'd be embarrassed not to pay you for your lunch break."

:-/ honestly, i thought lunch break if you work 8 hours a day IS paid? is it not? i know things are fucked up at some places, but still. i know some people only get a half an hour (we have clients who are actually are like um really more than a half hour lunch break?). we get an hour. is that not normal? me and many people i work with have worked on our lunch hours and ate at our desk, but it's nice to know you have an hour lunch break that's paid at least for doctor's appointments and window shopping in soho!

*rob*

September 7, 2011 7:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
(and for lots of chicks in my office, jaunting out to last minute sample sales) haahha

*rob*

September 7, 2011 8:00 PM - minard lafever
rob. fair enough. I have always loved fried or poached plantains. No, you can't eat them un-cooked. they are not like bananas.
do you like yucca? I think it is so delicious.

September 7, 2011 8:00 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
she ALSO buys or MAKES ME lunch!!''

ooooh well that is just awesome!!! id love that one!!! oddly, our janitor who is an ex army guy throws the entire office pizza parties in his dime every few months! he rocks! i wouldnt be shocked if he writes it off as some expense and it comes out of our taxes tho, but still amazing!

*rob*

September 7, 2011 8:02 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
is yucca that big long ear of corn looking thing that's like raw sugar cane? no. i do see yucca in frozen bags on sale at the supermarket all the time..
September 7, 2011 8:04 PM - minard lafever
Rob, no. Yucca is like a potato. it is a white tuberous vegetable. It grows underground. I love it.
It is whiter and more fibrous than potato.
September 7, 2011 8:06 PM - minard lafever
cobble, that sounds better!
It is so nice to work for someone who is not a psychopath!!!

September 7, 2011 8:07 PM - BoerumHillScott
One of my friends visiting me this week is from Ecuador, and we went to a nice little Ecuadorian restaurant in Sunset Park a few nights ago. They used a lot of plantain and yucca, and I thought it was great.
I'm not sure if I would go there by myself, since the waitress spoke almost no English, and my friends had to translate our orders for her.
September 7, 2011 8:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
It is whiter and more fibrous than potato.

that's like the opposite of what i thought that kind of potato would be like. my WT salad pasta salad came out amazing tho!


*rob*

September 7, 2011 8:17 PM - minard lafever
bhc. Peru and Ecuador have the best regional cuisines in South America.

September 7, 2011 8:20 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I'm not sure if I would go there by myself, since the waitress spoke almost no English, and my friends had to translate our orders for her.

.oh come on those are the best kinds of restaurants, it's not THAT hard pointing to the menu and most veggies food in spanish is pretty easy to translate even if you dont know it. would you rather have that or some moonface "authentic ecquadorian fusion" cuisine with a bunch of canklesaurus rex white chicks rolling their eyes at you, texting, and tacking on a 20 % automatic tip to your bill without your knowledge, while you are ordering!??!

*rob*

Edited at September 7, 2011 8:19 PM
September 7, 2011 8:23 PM - wendybear1
"I'm not sure if I would go there by myself, since the waitress spoke almost no English, and my friends had to translate our orders for her."

Just take me with you. I don't speak Spanish, but I can point and smile just fine! ;-)
September 7, 2011 8:25 PM - cobblehiller
"cobble, that sounds better!
It is so nice to work for someone who is not a psychopath!!!"

It's a shock is what it is! I had an inkling there were people like this out there, but thought it was the stuff of fairy tales...

rob, As a freelancer, you generally charge for the time you spend actually working. I'm not on "payroll", per se. My hours/days worked change week to week but are steady. I never go out (in Soho? Ack! Too expensive!) on my break, I usually eat lunch with boss/client or check my emailmake a phone call or two. But it's very relaxed and wonderful/enjoyable.
Edited at September 7, 2011 8:25 PM
September 7, 2011 8:32 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
howdy people. i'm waiting on a fresh direct delivery. soooo tired though. wish they'd get here so i can snooze.
September 7, 2011 8:36 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
everybody gone?
September 7, 2011 8:46 PM - minard lafever
cobble, happy to hear it.
I have had good bosses and psycopathic ones. The thing is to always keep in mind your contribution and worth.
Don't take any shit from bullies. They fold like a fan when you push back.


Edited at September 7, 2011 8:46 PM
September 7, 2011 8:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
ah okay, that makes sense. ha. no, i dont actually SHOP in soho... at least for clothes anyway. it IS a good area to work in tho if you have a lunch break just cuz of the ease of getting to other places and there's lots of places to shop when you have to shop for gifts for people, find something you really dont wanna go out on the weekend for, etc. i guess. for the most part it's an overpriced outdoor mall, but there are good perks. actually i SHOULD do some of my grocery shopping in the heart of chinatown, probably save some money.

*rob*

September 7, 2011 8:48 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh yeah and Pearl River mart. um hello, three stories of chinese shopping store greatness!!!

*rob*

Edited at September 7, 2011 8:48 PM
September 7, 2011 9:06 PM - cobblehiller
Hi Snaps! Hope you get some ZZZZZZs soon! I'm headed for sleep shortly!

Pearl River is great! I got some beautiful paper there last Christmas.

Minard, Sage advice!!
September 7, 2011 9:12 PM - Legion
"Ok legion, I will definitely trust the recommendations on the verizon website to buy a verizon phone. Bet they loved that iphone they sold dcb!"

rf,
Try reading my posts.
I clearly posted that the verizon site reviews stated better reviews for the new blackberry than the iphone.
The reason for the high marks on the blackberry was the smoothness of its operating system!
Do you think verizon is making up these reviews, positive and negative?

Go watch the debate now.

September 7, 2011 9:13 PM - rf
Legion, I have no cable and the debate is not on network TV.
Edited at September 7, 2011 9:13 PM
September 7, 2011 9:16 PM - rf
And David Pogue said the phone was excellent, just that the features of an Android phone or an iphone are far superior to what Blackberry offers. But I wouldn't want you to form an opinion without reading the review!
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/25/technology/personaltech/research-in-motions-best-blackberry-yet-the-bold-9900-is-not-enough.html?ref=cellphones
September 7, 2011 9:17 PM - Legion
Minard,
I love yucca too.
My mom used to make it with ox tail.
What a treat that used to be!

September 7, 2011 9:21 PM - minard lafever
ox tail?
cola de vaca?
you don't say?

September 7, 2011 9:25 PM - Legion
rf,
And from what over 140 actual user reviews stated on the verizon site,
the blackberry was superior in terms of its functionality, integration with real time e-mail and untouchable in terms of keeping data secure.
I only use my blackberry to make calls and check e-mails. Neither of these functions are negotiable in terms of quality and reliability since they are related to my job. That's why I stick to the blackberry.
It really depends on what you use the phone for in the end.
I'll read the review though. ;o)

NBC got the debate concession this time.
wonder why they won't show it on channel 4?
..oh yeah, it's NBC. pfffffttttt.
Edited at September 7, 2011 9:25 PM
September 7, 2011 9:29 PM - Legion
...ummmm,
or with osso bucco.
She would prepare it
in a pressure cooker
man that meat was tender!
September 7, 2011 9:30 PM - rf
Legion, I don't think Fox showed the debates they carried it on Channel 5, just on their cable news channel.
Edited at September 7, 2011 9:30 PM
September 7, 2011 9:38 PM - Legion
I think you are right on that rf,
I might have been too hasty in dismissing NBC.

Huntsman is being asked to name which Republicans he believes are not following scientific principles.
It's getting good.
September 7, 2011 9:38 PM - minard lafever
legion, I remember my grandmother hovering over the pressure cooker. Everything that came out of that whistling pot was so tender and delicious. It was the magic cooker of its day.

September 7, 2011 9:42 PM - Legion
..what I would do for a plate of that food right now.
The yucca would come out yellow and soft through and through and
after 8 hours or so of pressure cooking, infused with the flavor of the meat and vegetables cooked with it.
September 7, 2011 9:46 PM - rf
8 hours in a pressure cooker? I don't think so!
http://fastcooking.ca/pressure_cookers/cooking_times_pressure_cooker.php#meat_and_poultry
Edited at September 7, 2011 9:46 PM
September 7, 2011 9:52 PM - DeLepp
I love my 6 year old flip top dumb phone!
September 7, 2011 9:53 PM - Legion
rf,
I have a VERY good memory.
My mom would keep that thing on from the morning into dinner time, I tell you and she was a very good cook.
September 7, 2011 9:56 PM - Legion
The pot was huge,
at least 5 gallons and the pressure dial on top kept a tight rhythm
as the escaping steam was let out.
Something like tse..tse..tse..tse..tse.
Hours at a time.
September 7, 2011 10:02 PM - minard lafever
Pressure cooker for eight hours? What were you cooking re-inforced concrete?
Three hours would turn the toughest flank steak into butter.
I don't think it was a pressure cooker, honestly in eight hours anything inside would be mush.

September 7, 2011 10:10 PM - Arkady
Yeah, I use pressure cooker a lot & it's usually an hour (takes 20 to 30 minutes to work up head of steam & same to decompress at the end.) Ox tail done for much more than than would end up as pulp - it's a fave of ex-bf & we did a lot of it.
September 7, 2011 10:15 PM - Legion
haha minard,
no, but I do believe that she was cooking stuff in stages with the different ingredients going in at different times.
I know that some pressure cookers are adjustable too, so that you don't necessarily have to blast the food at high pressure.
It was definitely a pressure cooker though.
Edited at September 7, 2011 10:15 PM
September 7, 2011 10:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
hmm these people are questioning someone's hispanic mother's cooking... that's not gonna go down good...
(honestly i thought those lasted like 8 - 12 hours too). is a pressure cooker the same thing as a crock pot?

*rob*

September 7, 2011 10:23 PM - Legion
lol,
Don't mess with momma's cooking now!
*rob* the crock pot is a slow cooker, she used that on occasion too.
But I clearly recall her using the pressure cooker for hours at a time.
These were no small portions mind you. A 5 gallon pot holds a lot of food.

Edited at September 7, 2011 10:23 PM
September 7, 2011 10:25 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
5 gallons!?!? how big is the normal crock pot? like a gallon? damn. that's a lot of food!

*rob*

September 7, 2011 10:26 PM - Legion
I also remember her using the pressure cooker to cook tripe.
That's an acquired taste there.
I liked it though.
September 7, 2011 10:29 PM - Arkady
Tripe would take quite a while I imagine. I've never done it.
September 7, 2011 10:32 PM - minard lafever
rob, no, you are the same as a crock pot.

September 7, 2011 10:44 PM - minard lafever
I don't recall us having tripe. that was kind of French. We had brains and sweetbeads though. But they were sauteed, no pressure cooker needed.
Tongue was a biggie too, but again, no pressure cooker there. Tongue was tender and wonderful all by itself. It just needed gentle simmering.

Edited at September 7, 2011 10:44 PM
September 7, 2011 10:49 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
once my family got their first microwave, unfortunately, cooking was all down hill from there. everything was "nuked". and i mean EVERYTHING.

*rob*

September 7, 2011 10:52 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
(cooking was never UP THERE tho), as far as i can recall. i wasnt a fan of my grandmothers cooking. i liked my grandfather's cooking, but he only cooked on the weekends and on thanksgiving. im gonna say my grandmother was a HORRIBLE awful cook (but she kept our stomachs full so ill give her that) and other than the blocks of government cheese she somehow got (i think she bought them from neighbors) we didnt rely on foodstamps. there was a strange few years, where they didnt even USE the microwave and all they bought was actual junkfood and kept it in the cupboards and that's all they ate. chips and ice cream and stuff. they gave me a food allowance and i shopped for myself. the things i bought werent THAT much better, but still better than chips and ice cream.

*rob*



Edited at September 7, 2011 10:52 PM
September 7, 2011 11:07 PM - Arkady
Sweetbreads barely take 4 minutes. Don't know about tongue - we bought it cooked.
Edited at September 7, 2011 11:07 PM
September 8, 2011 9:23 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
hmm


*rob*
September 8, 2011 9:24 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
also with ANY job you have to weight the good and the bad. all jobs have the good and the bad.
*rob*

Edited at September 8, 2011 9:24 AM