Wednesday Open Thread
December 21, 2011 6:29 AM - BoerumHillScott

475 comments
December 21, 2011 7:56 AM - dibs
GM
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#1
December 21, 2011 8:05 AM - BoerumHillScott
Fuck off.

Sorry, I meant Good Morning.
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:05 AM
#2
December 21, 2011 8:15 AM - dibs
I'm sorry I couldn't have been more involved with the conversation last night. it was truly stimulating

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#3
December 21, 2011 8:50 AM - petebklyn
which conversation....cast being removed, prepaid funerals, or teenage driving?
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#4
December 21, 2011 8:51 AM - dibs
Sometimes there are charts that
simply leap out of the page and proclaim themselves
important. The importance of these charts speaks
loudly… so loudly that one cannot miss the lessons that
are to be learned. This weekend in Barron’s one such
chart leaped off the page: the spread between the S&P
500’s earnings yield (as of last Friday 8.6%) and the
yield on the 10 year US Treasury (which as of Friday
was 1.9%). At 6.7%, the spread was wider than it has
been at any time since early ’75 at the start of the great
bull market following the end of a truly horrific bear and visited again
in the spring of ’09. To put things in proper perspective,
the average “spread” has been at or near zero since the
early 70’s, so 6.9% is indeed extended.

Stocks are cheap… very; US corporations have
enormous sums of money on their balance sheets.
Indeed, they’ve more cash on their balance sheets than
at any time in our memory, faulty though it might be.
According to Capital IQ, at the turn of the century,
American corporations had $400 billion in cash or cash
equivalents on the collective balance sheets. At the end
of the 3rd quarter of this year that had ballooned to just
over $1.1 trillion… a near triple! Microsoft
has $57.4 billion in cash and cash equivalents, making
the company more like a simple bank than a software
company. Cisco has $44.4 billion and Oracle has $32.5
billion. Yes, much of that is being held off-shore and will
not be repatriated… yet… but eventually it shall be, and
until then it is still part of the balance sheets of the
company’s in question.
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:57 AM
#5
December 21, 2011 8:52 AM - petebklyn
volunteer work day. will probably be slow - so I can follow all this nonsense.
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#6
December 21, 2011 8:53 AM - dibs
NONSENSE??????

Some of us are doing God's work here
#7
December 21, 2011 9:00 AM - dibs
First kitten pic of the day...just waking up!!!!
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#8
December 21, 2011 9:02 AM - Slopefarm
For Jackal, another gloss on the origins and meaning of the festival of lights (aka Chanukah):

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/faithbased/2005/12/the_maccabees_and_the_hellenists.html

or, in haiku:

Religious freedom?
No, Chanukah celebrates
Jewish civil war
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:02 AM
#9
December 21, 2011 9:04 AM - dibs
Weren't the MacCabees Scottish????
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:04 AM
#10
December 21, 2011 9:04 AM - Slopefarm
Just trying to lower my comment length average
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#11
December 21, 2011 9:06 AM - Slopefarm
Perhaps, dibs. Antiochus thought he kilt the MacCabee clan.
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#12
December 21, 2011 9:07 AM - Slopefarm
Though that's an apochryphal view.
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#13
December 21, 2011 9:08 AM - dibs
Well I heard that Mrs maccabee was a tartan a whore
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#14
December 21, 2011 9:10 AM - Slopefarm
When she was young, dibs. Later, she was an old haggis.
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#15
December 21, 2011 9:11 AM - Slopefarm
[I have time for this? Really?]
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#16
December 21, 2011 9:14 AM - dibs
Moor or less, yes.
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#17
December 21, 2011 9:15 AM - dibs
Just don't get bogged down with it all.
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#18
December 21, 2011 9:18 AM - Arkady
I thought you plaid that well!
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#19
December 21, 2011 9:20 AM - Slopefarm
LOL (loch out loud), dibs. OK, firth I'll try to get some work done, then isle post.
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#20
December 21, 2011 9:21 AM - Arkady
Are you sporran for a fight?
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#21
December 21, 2011 9:22 AM - Arkady
dibs is again trying to rob royalists.
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#22
December 21, 2011 9:23 AM - Arkady
He's got his eye on the black watch until the market opens.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:23 AM
#23
December 21, 2011 9:25 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
ive said it before and ill say it again. OT Afterdark > > > x 1000 The OT Morning Show
zzzzzzzzz

*rob*

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#24
December 21, 2011 9:26 AM - dibs
Fold, Arkady.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:26 AM
#25
December 21, 2011 9:27 AM - Arkady
Oh, *rob*, go do a xword puzzle.
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#26
December 21, 2011 9:27 AM - dibs
Lass but not least......
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#27
December 21, 2011 9:28 AM - Arkady
It's a Dun deel, dibs.
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#28
December 21, 2011 9:28 AM - lechacal
Oh for fuck's sake, not even 10 am and puniest already?
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#29
December 21, 2011 9:32 AM - lechacal
Punfest

Fuck apple products and their auto-correct
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#30
December 21, 2011 9:32 AM - dibs
Pausing for market open....
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#31
December 21, 2011 9:33 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
seriously lech. AND cat pictures. do these people know what the defnition of insanity is?
scott is there a way to be able to view this site with no graphics? is that a feature that could be added if not?

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 9:33 AM
#32
December 21, 2011 9:37 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
i was stuck on a train this morning that had a train conductor with the most annoying grating loud shouty voice ive EVER heard. i was so ready to get out and take another train. how do they let people get those kinds of jobs!? if anything train conductors really should have to go through a required speech class before being able to open their traps over the loudspeakers on the train.

*rob*

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#33
December 21, 2011 9:38 AM - dibs
Forget it rob, they are unionized. They will promote anyone to the highest position of incompetence.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:38 AM
#34
December 21, 2011 9:41 AM - lechacal
Taking the veeeeery late train to work and will probably be leaving early today. Almost everyone at work is already on vacation.
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#35
December 21, 2011 9:41 AM - Slopefarm
rob -- have you ever heard the conductor with the seemingly too thick to be real French accent? I also miss the F train conductor with the heavy Caribbean lilt to his voice who, when he said "this is the F Train to Jamaica" you really thought he was going to pilot that train all the way to Montego Bay.
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#36
December 21, 2011 9:42 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
on my way home tho, there's one train conductor lady who shouts at imaginary people about holding the doors open. she gets really REALLY ghetto about it too ahhaha
<3 her

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 9:42 AM
#37
December 21, 2011 9:44 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
rob -- have you ever heard the conductor with the seemingly too thick to be real French accent? I

hmmm yes.! i think so anyway. they dont ALL bother me, usually they can be entertaining at times. just the one those morning... ugh. an unidentifable accent WITH a total bloombergian nasal honk.

*rob*

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#38
December 21, 2011 10:04 AM - lechacal
On the New Haven Line of the Metro North, the conductors use the P.A. as a walkie talkie to chat with each other. It's unsettling at first but then you get used to it.
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#39
December 21, 2011 10:05 AM - petebklyn
not for fuck's sake -- for peats sake.
#40
December 21, 2011 10:06 AM - dibs
"On the New Haven Line of the Metro North, the conductors use the P.A. as a walkie talkie to chat with each other."

Cutting edge technology up there, huh????
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#41
December 21, 2011 10:06 AM - Slopefarm
"for peats sake."

I see we're getting bogged down in puns again.
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#42
December 21, 2011 10:08 AM - petebklyn
I will miss the real voices once all converted to these new robotic trains with very generic bland pronunciation.
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#43
December 21, 2011 10:09 AM - Deleted
Well, I'm turning a new leaf this morning. I'm joining Facebook AND I'd like to start an OT book club.

Let's begin!

Here's my first suggestion for the book club, and it has its own Facebook page!!

"101 Uses for a Dead Cat"

http://www.facebook.com/pages/101-Uses-for-a-Dead-Cat/106167822747742
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#44
December 21, 2011 10:10 AM - dibs
[Unfriending benson]
#45
December 21, 2011 10:10 AM - petebklyn
aren't they calling that site Facelessbook these days.
#46
December 21, 2011 10:11 AM - Arkady
On the 2/3 trains there are 2 recorded announcements for Grand Army Plaza: one says Plahza & one Plaa('a' as in as)a.
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#47
December 21, 2011 10:11 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I will miss the real voices once all converted to these new robotic trains with very generic bland pronunciation.

omg totally. i HATE that bland robot bitch that does the voiceovers on some of the new trains!!! she is the WORST!

*rob*

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#48
December 21, 2011 10:12 AM - Arkady
Benson's on Faeces Book.
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#49
December 21, 2011 10:12 AM - Slopefarm
Let's call the whole thing off, arkady.
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#50
December 21, 2011 10:13 AM - lechacal
"Cutting edge technology up there, huh????"

Over there? Sure, I suppose. I have no idea what those people over there are like.

[attention to detail, dibs - Hudson Line vs. New Haven Line]
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#51
December 21, 2011 10:13 AM - Arkady
No, the absolute most abysmal is the woman on Verizon.
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#52
December 21, 2011 10:14 AM - lechacal
I do not have a facebook account. I have a Linkedin account, and actually use Linkedin for business matters (finding people to hire, for example).
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#53
December 21, 2011 10:14 AM - Arkady
You say Sloppy, I say Slopey.
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#54
December 21, 2011 10:15 AM - dibs
Whatever. It runs NORTH of NYC, jackass.
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#55
December 21, 2011 10:15 AM - Deleted
In the spirit of Facebook, can we have a "Like" button, as well as a "STFU" one too? Throw in a "Moron!!!" button for good measure.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:15 AM
#56
December 21, 2011 10:16 AM - dibs
It would be nice if we had ALL the emoticons that the What had on the beach, including the buttsecks one!!!!
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#57
December 21, 2011 10:16 AM - dibs
Also a "Jackass" and "Douchebag" button
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#58
December 21, 2011 10:17 AM - Arkady
Let's have Pedals instead of buttons - they work better w/ knee jerks.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:17 AM
#59
December 21, 2011 10:18 AM - lechacal
The emoticons on the beach were great.

bothholes mouse gunz gunz gunz nuke wtf
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#60
December 21, 2011 10:18 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
benson, G*d loves cats. Repent!!
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#61
December 21, 2011 10:19 AM - petebklyn
I guess that bothholes is autocorrect again, no?
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#62
December 21, 2011 10:20 AM - Deleted
On my facebook page, I'm aiming for zero friends! I think I'm almost there.
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#63
December 21, 2011 10:21 AM - lechacal
No, not autocorrect. bothholes was a great emoticon that showed one character sticking it in both holes of another (I guess they were both male otherwise it would be allthreeholes?)
#64
December 21, 2011 10:22 AM - lechacal
And the way it worked was if you just typed "bothholes" in your message, when it posted it would have that emoticon in place of the word. same with mouse, gunz, nuke, and many many others. shitskittles was great too - a unicorn shitting skittles.
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#65
December 21, 2011 10:33 AM - rf
Pete, I thought you quit your volunteer work.
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#66
December 21, 2011 10:34 AM - DeadCatBounce
"101 Uses for a Dead Cat"

WHAT?!!!!!!!
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#67
December 21, 2011 10:36 AM - petebklyn
I am quitting - but Jan 11 is last day. Following week I go to florida.
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#68
December 21, 2011 10:37 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh FYI, Lil Kim is NOT dead. apparently the twitterverse was all crazy with people tweeting that lil kim died, but it was just retards who confused lil kim with that korean president who died lol

*rob*

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#69
December 21, 2011 10:37 AM - petebklyn
only 1 appt today - but not until 1pm. boring.
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#70
December 21, 2011 10:52 AM - Deleted
Did someone pre-pay a funeral for today's OT?
#71
December 21, 2011 10:53 AM - dibs
Sorry, benson, I've been coffin all morning.
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#72
December 21, 2011 10:53 AM - dibs
Wake me when it gets more interesting
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#73
December 21, 2011 10:57 AM - rf
Sleeping on the job, DIBS?
#74
December 21, 2011 10:57 AM - petebklyn
everyone in grave mood.
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#75
December 21, 2011 10:59 AM - Deleted
In lieau of flowers, the OT family requests that all donations be sent to your local cat recue fund.
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#76
December 21, 2011 10:59 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
benson urned this photo....
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#77
December 21, 2011 11:01 AM - dibs
GM, Cobble. Just getting up???
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#78
December 21, 2011 11:02 AM - BoerumHillScott
What a bunch of complaining losers.
#79
December 21, 2011 11:03 AM - BoerumHillScott
Myself included
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#80
December 21, 2011 11:03 AM - Arkady
Cobble was on earlier this mourning.
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#81
December 21, 2011 11:04 AM - dibs
We've already covered the Scotts earlier, so GET LOST/
Edited at December 21, 2011 11:04 AM
#82
December 21, 2011 11:10 AM - Slopefarm
Bunch of ashhats, if you ask me.

Seriously, benson, we cremated/buried ashes of a close relative earlier this year. We learned:
1. Cremation saves a lot of $$ over full body burial.
2. Funeral homes near hospitals charge more.
3. Big drop in price as you move away from affluent suburban areas to the hinterlands.
4. Memorial parks have rules about the materials used to manufacture the urn.
5. Some jurisdictions give a small tax rebate for portions of burial costs of veterans and their spouses.
6. Lots of groups with religious or cultural taboos against cremation are reconsidering (big demographic shift on this among Blacks and not-so-religious Jews, among others).
BTW Donations in lieu of flowers went to dog rescue organizations.
Edited at December 21, 2011 11:10 AM
#83
December 21, 2011 11:16 AM - BoerumHillScott
It's been over 15 years since I was involved with funeral planning. I was 22 and it was for my father.
We went to the same funeral home that my dad's family has always used.
The only choice we were given was what type of casket to use - the rest was apparently fixed.
The dollar amount was large, but I was in shock and wanted to do what would be accepted by the family, so I wrote a check for way more than I had in my my bank account.
The funeral home owner was nice enough to hold the check until we got some insurance money.
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#84
December 21, 2011 11:18 AM - BoerumHillScott
I did help pay for the funeral of my Aunt's husband earlier this year.
We were not close at all, but my Aunt had been a good influence on me growing up.
They had absolutely no money, but my aunt wanted a nice funeral with nice casket and everything.
Being the person in the family with the most money, I opened my check book.

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#85
December 21, 2011 11:21 AM - Deleted
Yes, the cost of various coffin types varies significantly. I cut down on costs by using my friend as the funeral director, rather than the funeral home (This was a bit weird. My friend is also the director for the funeral home, which is a corporate entity. He set up his own LLC to be a director, and I went through him). Number of limos is a cost driver. Finally, it seems that many folks these days are saving money by cutting down the wake period to one day. For my mother-in-law, we opted for the traditional two days, as she has a lot of relatives in Jersey and a big social network through her church.
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#86
December 21, 2011 11:23 AM - rf
My dad wants to donate his body to a medical school. They return the ashes when they are done, and then he wants me to bury them on top of my mother's grave. Ok!
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#87
December 21, 2011 11:23 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Hmm, when my parents died, I don't think we spent more than a couple thousand. They were both cremated and we had graveside services for them only—their wishes. And it doesn't hurt that we have a family plot in MA, so we didn't have to pay for cemetery, except small amount for them to dig a hole at spots for the urns. ANd buy grave markers. Probably paid out less than $4k for each parent.
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#88
December 21, 2011 11:24 AM - rf
Oh, and my instructions are to get the stone re-engraved.
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#89
December 21, 2011 11:24 AM - Deleted
Another interesting thing my friend told me is that funeral pre-payments used to be a big scam for sheltering money from taxes. Folks would stuff money into pre-payment trusts, and then the children would take the surplus after the expenses were paid. NYS stopped this practice. Any surplus money in the trust now goes to the state.
Edited at December 21, 2011 11:24 AM
#90
December 21, 2011 11:25 AM - lechacal
I'll probably be buried in Western Massachusetts next to my 11 direct male immediate ancestors. (currently buried there are grandfather, great grandfather, great great grandfather, etc etc).
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#91
December 21, 2011 11:26 AM - BoerumHillScott
One good thing about having family in a small town is that for my dad's funeral, the wake and funeral service magically happened at the Catholic Church. We did not have to do a thing, other than make a decision or two over who would speak at the service.
I don't think my dad had set foot inside the that church in 30 years other than for weddings and funerals, but when he died they really took care of us.

That is one of the many reasons that although I strong disagreements with the Catholic Church on many front and am no longer a Christian, I still have respect for the Church.
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#92
December 21, 2011 11:27 AM - petebklyn
does medicaid cover burial? can we pass a mandatory burial insurance bill?
Edited at December 21, 2011 11:27 AM
#93
December 21, 2011 11:28 AM - DeadCatBounce
In NYS a body is cremated INSIDE A CASKET. WTF! Blatant money making scheme.
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#94
December 21, 2011 11:28 AM - petebklyn
does your family maintain separate area for the females?
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#95
December 21, 2011 11:30 AM - BoerumHillScott
My first cat picture ever posted.
I found it on facebook
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#96
December 21, 2011 11:31 AM - dibs
DCB, it's not a casket like you see at a funeral,it's essentially just a wooden box.
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#97
December 21, 2011 11:32 AM - lechacal
No separate area for females, they are all there, but they aren't the source of my name now are they?
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#98
December 21, 2011 11:32 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
well it sounds like dying is completely unaffordable for some people. so seriously, how does one pay for that (even just a few thousand) if they dont have that money, or most likely will not have that money saved? ugh. why did my grandmothers stupid ass kids have to all go and drop dead before she does! i dont think it's very fair that dying costs so much money. again i seriously, what do poor people do? i guess solicit donations on facebook maybe?


*rob*

#99
December 21, 2011 11:34 AM - petebklyn
maybe you're wrong again dcb,
from nys website--
"Is a Casket Necessary?

No, there is no requirement that a casket be used, however remains must be obscured from public view while transported. New York regulation does require that remains are delivered to a crematory in a leak-proof, rigid, combustible container that completely encloses the human remains. There are many suitable containers available in the industry."


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December 21, 2011 11:34 AM - Deleted
My first use for a dead cat. Found on the web.
December 21, 2011 11:35 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
while this whole thing seems totally overwheming for me, im LOL'ing at how i will be disposed of when it's my time. ahhahahah.

*rob*

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December 21, 2011 11:37 AM - rf
Some of you met my friend Suzan at the previous poolhall get-together. She asked me if I could think of a restaurant with pink walls. It's for their Christmas card photo. Any suggestions?
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December 21, 2011 11:37 AM - DeLepp
I had no idea there were so many GD cat pictures with captions on the internets. Downfall of society and I blame steve jobs.
December 21, 2011 11:40 AM - petebklyn
I think the Pink Tea Cup in the village has some pink walls.
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December 21, 2011 11:41 AM - DeLepp
dad's funeral came to $6k and that is with two four-hour wake sessions, cremation and veterans burial(free).
Edited at December 21, 2011 11:40 AM
December 21, 2011 11:42 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
again, i am asking what happens when there IS NO MONEY FOR ANY KIND OF FUNERAL

*rob*

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December 21, 2011 11:42 AM - DeLepp
rob, porter's field I guess
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December 21, 2011 11:43 AM - dibs
rob, what does it matter??? You won;t have any idea what happens once your dead. you can be buried in Potter's Field.
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December 21, 2011 11:44 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I was with my mother when she died. But not with my father. I regret not being there. I don't think I'll ever forgive myself for not being there with him.
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December 21, 2011 11:46 AM - Slopefarm
LOL, scott. Yes, we have certain ornaments we cannot place below a certain height on the tree, for obvious reasons.
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December 21, 2011 11:47 AM - BoerumHillScott
In NYC, the city will bury you on Hart Island.

From Wikipedia:
In 2005 there were 1,419 burials in the potter's field on Hart Island, including 826 adults, 546 infants and stillborn babies, and 47 burials of dismembered body parts.[10] The dead are buried in trenches. Babies are placed in coffins of various sizes, and are stacked five coffins high and usually twenty coffins across. Adults are placed in larger pine boxes placed according to size and are stacked three coffins high and two coffins across
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December 21, 2011 11:48 AM - petebklyn
no hospital or hospice beds for either of my parents. father died heart attack on sofa at my grandmothers (had played tennis earlier in day)...mother was at her home and frail health but still went upstairs to bed, made her meals etc -- and must of died from heart failure on way back to bed from bathroom in middle of night.
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December 21, 2011 11:50 AM - dibs
DeLepp, tell them how you want to die!!!!!!
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December 21, 2011 11:50 AM - BoerumHillScott
We had arranged Hospice care for my dad, but my Aunt who he was living with freaked out as he got closer to the end, so he died in a hospital three days after being admitted.
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December 21, 2011 11:53 AM - rf
What about you, DIBS? (like I have to ask)
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December 21, 2011 11:56 AM - Deleted
NYC has some phenomenal cemeteries. In addition to Greenwood, St. John's in Queens and Woodlawn in the Bronx are also really beautiful. There's also one in Westchester, but I can't think of the name. The stonework and mausoleums are as spectacular as the grounds.
Edited at December 21, 2011 11:56 AM
December 21, 2011 11:58 AM - dibs
DeLepp, I found the word that describes that phrase. it's called a "paraprosdokian."

I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather, not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car.

Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.

The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.

We never really grow up; we only learn how to act in public.

War does not determine who is right - only who is left.



Edited at December 21, 2011 11:58 AM
December 21, 2011 11:58 AM - lechacal
I guess I would like to die in a plane crash, or in some other spectacular and instantaneous fashion.
Edited at December 21, 2011 11:58 AM
December 21, 2011 11:59 AM - rf
The cemetaries around the Jackie Robinson Parkway in Brooklyn are very interesting to see, just from the road. Recently I noticed that there are lots and lots of gravestones engraved with Chinese characters, especially near the Bushwick Ave. exit.
Edited at December 21, 2011 11:59 AM
December 21, 2011 12:00 PM - DeadCatBounce
Pete, will have to investigate this further.
Family went through this a couple of years ago, but I did not organize the cremation. I was told that it was required the deceased be cremated in a wooden enclosure, albeit a plain one.
I have heard the same from others.
In any case, this is how it was done. Perhaps it is just common practice and not law.

Edited at December 21, 2011 12:00 PM
December 21, 2011 12:05 PM - rf
From NY Better Business Bureau website:
http://www.newyork.bbb.org/SitePage.aspx?site=24&id=6d6925b8-b763-46c0-a99e-f6a39c800d58
under federal law:
Caskets For Cremation - Funeral providers which offer direct cremation without viewing or other ceremony at which the body is present must:
A. Disclose your right to buy an unfinished wood box or an alternative container the cremation. B. Not mislead you to believe that state or local laws require a casket for direct cremation.

Under NYC law:
Embalming is not required by law and may not take place without your authorization. However, a funeral home may refuse to provide certain types of services such as viewing if the embalming is not authorized.
A casket is not required by law for cremation. A funeral home must offer you an "alternative container" for this purpose.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:05 PM
December 21, 2011 12:06 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Good morning, asshats. Sorry the Scottish punfest was too early in PST.
December 21, 2011 12:09 PM - lechacal
I have a strong desire to not die in a hospital. Shark attack, sucked into a jet intake, scuba diving mishap, rock climbing accident maybe. Not hit by a train, those corpses are just awful.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:09 PM
December 21, 2011 12:10 PM - Arkady
I update a 'give my body to med school' every few years. I started when I was 26 & was told I was dying: I figured they'd want to get at the goodies & let me go faster & still feel that way. It's gotten more complicated over the years but it leaves very little for your relatives to do or pay for. I'm footing the bill for a big party, though, as we did for my mother (whose ashes are in our backyard.)
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:10 PM
December 21, 2011 12:14 PM - dibs
Arkady, maybe you could be mummified like an Egyptian cat.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:14 PM
December 21, 2011 12:15 PM - Deleted
DCB;

Just looked at the price list of my friend the funeral director, who is a straight-up guy. He indeed allows the customer to supply the cremation container (for a $200 savings). He further states that the cremation container can be an unfinished wood box, or an alternative material. Alternative materials include: heavy cardboard, pressed wood or composition material. Pouches of canvas are also permitted.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:15 PM
December 21, 2011 12:22 PM - BoerumHillScott
I may have to rethink my use of facebook now that several of my friends have started posting cat pictures there.
Is there some sort of epidemic I should know about?
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:22 PM
December 21, 2011 12:30 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
In NYC, the city will bury you on Hart Island.

oh the irony. but i was talking about my grandmother's death expenses. i am fairly certain no other relatives are gonna come out of the woodwork and pay for any of it. im just curious what happens if she passes and im broke. this is why i hate the financial world that keeps rejected me for credit cards. i need one for emergencies!!!!! i have a steady income and my only debt is my student loans which im paying back. why do i keep getting rejected for credit cards when they hand them out like candy to 18 year olds who dont even have incomes!! GRRRRRRRR

Edited at December 21, 2011 12:29 PM
December 21, 2011 12:30 PM - DeLepp
dibs, my grandfather was a terrible driver(sunday) and how I didn't want to die.
Paraprosdokian is a terrific word.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:30 PM
December 21, 2011 12:31 PM - DeLepp
Would like to go like my great aunt at 95. Got off plane from France, went to my aunt's for x-mas eve dinner and decided she didn't want dessert and died.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:31 PM
December 21, 2011 12:32 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
omg

"Declutter your Ming Tang"
-Your Ming Tang, or entrance, is where you go from outdoor to indoor energy" "If you block the entrance with clutter, you send a message that you dont have room for people and opportunities to come into your life. It blocks energy" the entrance in my apartment, while not dirty, is totally cluttery!!!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 12:32 PM
December 21, 2011 12:33 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Christmas cheer:
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:33 PM
December 21, 2011 12:36 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
when i die, id like it for me getting brutally murdered by someone (on film). ooooooh can you borrow money against the profits of a snuff film where youre the one dying!? wait, isnt there a movie about that?


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 12:35 PM
December 21, 2011 12:36 PM - dibs
One should never block one's entrance with clutter.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:36 PM
December 21, 2011 12:37 PM - DeadCatBounce
DeLepp, I like this one:

"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it." —Groucho Marx
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:36 PM
December 21, 2011 12:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
actually i take my last comment back, i dont think id want to die that way. falling down a giant endless hole would be better



*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 12:38 PM
December 21, 2011 12:39 PM - DeLepp
haha dcb! a classic.

The ^^^^about aunt wasn't a Paraprosdokian, just Irish.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:39 PM
December 21, 2011 12:39 PM - dibs
Something we've discussed here in the past:

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

Edited at December 21, 2011 12:39 PM
December 21, 2011 12:40 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Whatever happens, when I die, I just don't want it to hurt! Just a peaceful fade out...please!
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:40 PM
December 21, 2011 12:44 PM - More4Less
speaking of tomato, tomato juice/sauce stains them tupperware lids - impossible to remove stain. what kind of genius makes a lid that can be stained like that???? Not like we don't used tomato sauce in this country
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:44 PM
December 21, 2011 12:45 PM - lechacal
I don't mind being hurt. In fact most of my preferred methods of death involve possibly intense but likely brief pain.

Another great way to die would be in a totally movie-worthy act of ridiculous death-is-certain heroism of some kind, but that's just not the way real life works.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:45 PM
December 21, 2011 12:47 PM - DeLepp
Since live in brooklyn will probably die being hit by a car making an illegal u-turn.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:47 PM
December 21, 2011 12:48 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
OMFG i just googled "what to do when someone dies" and there are websites and. um. youve GOT to be kidding me with all of this...

Browse by subjectCrime and justice Education and learning Employment Environment and greener living Government, citizens and rights
Death and bereavement
What to do after a deathHealth and well-being Home and community Money, tax and benefits Motoring Pensions and retirement planning Travel and transport Browse by peopleYoung people Britons living abroad Caring for someone Disabled people Parents Government, citizens and rights What to do when someone dies checklist When someone dies there are many decisions and arrangements to make, all of which can be difficult in a time of grief. To help, we've put together this checklist to guide you through the process.
Getting started
Before you start, it would be useful to have the following information to hand about the person who has died.

•National Insurance number

•NHS number

•date and place of birth

•date of marriage or civil partnership (if appropriate)

•tax reference number
Documents and information needed when someone diesFind out about wills and probateWhat to do in the first five days
There are a few steps that need to be taken shortly after the death. In many cases the hospital or GP involved will help you with these early steps:

•notify the family GP

•register the death at a register office

•find the will - the deceased person’s solicitor may have a copy if you can't find one

•begin funeral arrangements - you will need to check the will for any special requests

•if relevant, complete form BD8 given to you when you register the death and send to the local Jobcentre Plus or Social Security

•if the person who has died was receiving any benefits or tax credits, advise the offices that were making the payments - if you can't find relevant correspondence, use the links below to the tax credit helpline and Jobcentre plus
Registering a deathArranging a funeralIf there is a will
•contact the executor if this isn’t you (usually nominated in the will to sort out the deceased's affairs) to enable them to start the process of obtaining probate
If there is no will
•decide who will apply to sort out the deceased's affairs

•contact the Probate Registry to apply for 'letters of administration'
What to do if there is no willWhat is probate?Applying for probateWho else to contact
As well as informing people who are close to the person, in many cases you'll need to close down accounts, or cancel or change insurance details, subscriptions, agreements, payments or direct debits.

Here’s a list to help you keep track; just cross through the ones that don’t apply:


•relatives and friends

•employer

•school

•solicitor/accountant
Government organisations
•the relevant tax office

•National Insurance contributions office if they were self-employed (to cancel payments)

•Child Benefit office (at latest within eight weeks)
•Tax Credit office

•local authority if they paid council tax, had a parking permit, were issued with a blue badge for disabled parking, or received social services help, attended day care or similar

•UK Identity and Passport Service, to return and cancel a passport

•DVLA, to return any driving licence, cancel car tax or return

•car registration documents/change ownership
What to do about tax and benefits after a death Opens new windowReturning a deceased person's passportFind a local authorityFinancial organisations

•general insurance companies - contents, car, travel, medical etc

•any other company with which the deceased may have had rental, hire purchase or loan agreements

•if the deceased was the first named on an insurance policy, make contact as early as possible to check that you are still insured

•pension providers/life insurance companies

•banks and building societies

•mortgage provider

•hire purchase or loan companies

•credit card providers/store cards
Utilities and household contacts
•landlord or local authority if they rented a property

•any private organisation/agency providing home help

•utility companies if accounts were in the deceased's name

•Royal Mail, if mail needs re-directing

•TV/internet companies with which the deceased had subscriptions
Find a local authorityRoyal Mail redirection service Opens new windowOther useful contacts

•Bereavement Register and Deceased Preference Service to remove the deceased's name from mailing lists and databases

•clubs, trade unions, associations with seasonal membership for cancellation and refunds

•church/regular place of worship

•social groups to which the deceased belonged

•dentist

•creditors - anyone to whom the deceased owed money

•debtors - anyone who owed the deceased money
Register with the Bereavement Register Opens new windowDeceased Preference Service Opens new windowBenefits and financial help
You may be able to claim certain benefits and one-off payments if you lived with or were dependent on the deceased. Time limits apply, so contact your nearest Jobcentre Plus office as soon as possible to find out.

•contact Jobcentre Plus

•make a claim for Bereavement Allowance

•make a claim for Widowed Parent’s Allowance

•make a claim for a Bereavement Payment

•make a claim for a Funeral Payment

•check your current benefits and tax credits
Find your local Jobcentre Plus office Opens new windowBereavement AllowanceWidowed Parent's AllowanceBereavement PaymentFuneral PaymentsMaking a new will
Surviving relatives and friends of the deceased may need to make a new will. It's important to ask a solicitor about this.

Making a willBereavement – counselling and support
Everyone deals with bereavement in their own way. If you or someone you know needs counselling or support, ask your family doctor or contact an organisation such as Cruse Bereavement Care. Their aim is to promote the well-being of bereaved people and provides counselling and support. The organisation also offers information, advice, education and training services.

Your local authority may provide support and advice about the arrangements that need to be made after a bereavement, such as registering the death and obtaining a death certificate. If you follow the link to the bereavement service you can enter details of where you live and you will be directed to your local authority website where you can find out more.

Cruse Bereavement Care Opens new window
December 21, 2011 12:49 PM - dibs
Asshole.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:49 PM
December 21, 2011 12:50 PM - BoerumHillScott
Rob, that sounds like a British site.
December 21, 2011 12:51 PM - dibs
I just don't want to die by burning or drowning. i almost drowned once and it was not fun. Probably being eaten alive is not fun either.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:51 PM
December 21, 2011 12:53 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Well then! This has been a cheerful morning! I think I'll go out and get my last two Christmas gifts, and hum holiday songs to cheer myself up. I'm going to the Union Square market, among other places. Later...
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:53 PM
December 21, 2011 12:55 PM - Slopefarm
"aunt wasn't a Paraprosdokian, just Irish."

Where the heck is Paraprosdokia? Balkans? Steppes?


December 21, 2011 12:56 PM - More4Less
DIBS, I aint going to bite/nibble on the "being eaten alive is not fun either" portion of your post.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:56 PM
December 21, 2011 12:57 PM - dibs
m4l, we have a huge gift box here from harry & david. Alas, no brownies.
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:57 PM
December 21, 2011 12:57 PM - DeadCatBounce
Another Paraprosdokian:
"She looks as though she's been poured into her clothes, and forgot to say 'when'." —P. G. Wodehouse
Edited at December 21, 2011 12:57 PM
December 21, 2011 1:01 PM - More4Less
DCB, if you removed ", and forgot to say 'when'", I would've been interested in meeting the gal
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:01 PM
December 21, 2011 1:02 PM - dibs
I don't think you know the word "when" as it pertains to brownie servings.
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:02 PM
December 21, 2011 1:03 PM - DeLepp
haha slope, s/b aunt's story not a paraprosdokian.
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:03 PM
December 21, 2011 1:07 PM - petebklyn
did my good volunteer work christmas deed.....called pharmacy and told them client had no money for his copay - and please give him his meds (for some eye problem and blood pressure). they said - this time only.
December 21, 2011 1:08 PM - petebklyn
Is there a paraprosdokian community in brooklyn?
December 21, 2011 1:09 PM - More4Less
DIBS, 12 pieces in a session is my max
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:08 PM
December 21, 2011 1:15 PM - DeadCatBounce
The stock market is suffering from bi-polar disorder
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:15 PM
December 21, 2011 1:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
did my good volunteer work christmas deed.....called pharmacy and told them client had no money for his copay - and please give him his meds (for some eye problem and blood pressure). they said - this time only.

LOL @ "this time only". doesn't that pharmacist know, once a scrub always a scrub?

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 1:16 PM
December 21, 2011 1:22 PM - dibs
WOW....really nice out. i think I'll grill tonight.
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:22 PM
December 21, 2011 1:30 PM - Arkady
M4L - I've heard that leaving a paste of baking soda on the lid overnight helps & I've also been told you can leave the lids in the sunlight & it breaks down the stain.
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:30 PM
December 21, 2011 1:39 PM - lechacal
The people at the Apple store "genius bar" are not geniuses. I'm sort of disappointed.
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:39 PM
December 21, 2011 1:41 PM - BoerumHillScott
From my very limited experience, they are stuck up assholes.
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:41 PM
December 21, 2011 1:44 PM - dibs
If they were geniuses do you really think they'd be working retail?????
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:44 PM
December 21, 2011 1:48 PM - Deleted
Being a genius and a stuck-up a-hole who is only employable at retail is not outside the realm of possibility.
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:48 PM
December 21, 2011 1:51 PM - dibs
Probably true, benson.
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:51 PM
December 21, 2011 1:52 PM - dibs
lech, which store?
Edited at December 21, 2011 1:52 PM
December 21, 2011 1:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
what were you doing at the Moonface Bar?

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 1:59 PM
December 21, 2011 2:07 PM - lechacal
Grand Central - the new one
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:07 PM
December 21, 2011 2:10 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh that one. honestly, i think an apple store in there is so blashphemous

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 2:10 PM
December 21, 2011 2:13 PM - lechacal
"The stock market is suffering from bi-polar disorder"

Yeah pretty soon it's going to ask for a three-way with another stock market and a commodities exchange.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:13 PM
December 21, 2011 2:14 PM - lechacal
^^^^^^^^^^^^
that was kind of retarded
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:14 PM
December 21, 2011 2:15 PM - Donatella
Well, paraprosdokians trump funerals and death (Benson, you started that!!). Got my cast off. I thought this would be a good thing. My whole freaking arm and hand is a pain ball. I obviously had decided when this happened that it wasn't serious, just an annoyance but it looks like I misunderstood the nature of the injury. *rob* what you said about casts last night was off the wall, BTW.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:15 PM
December 21, 2011 2:21 PM - dibs
^^^^^^^^^^^^
that was kind of retarded


Not much here that isn't except what i usually post.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:21 PM
December 21, 2011 2:27 PM - lechacal
My legs are so fucking tired. Aargh. Running 35-40 miles a week, which is actually not that much for marathon training, but it feels like the legs are just not quite catching up. Once I actually let them rest I bet they will feel awesome though. Anyways, going home early today to pop out another 5 miles. Did 8 yesterday, will probably do another 5 - 8 tomorrow and then 17 Saturday.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:27 PM
December 21, 2011 2:28 PM - lechacal
If I injure myself again I won't run, but I'll still go down to Charleston to party, which would actually probably be a lot more fun.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:28 PM
December 21, 2011 2:29 PM - sixyearsandcounting
DonaT, glad you got the cast off - time for physical therapy now?
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:29 PM
December 21, 2011 2:35 PM - dibs
It gets tiring keeping your legs in the air too. (h).
December 21, 2011 2:37 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i assumed you'd be the type who probably has a sling or stirrups setup to avoid the tiredness

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 2:37 PM
December 21, 2011 2:39 PM - dibs
No, rob, I'm very old fashioned and plain vanilla. Nothing kinky for me. Well, maybe a few things.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:39 PM
December 21, 2011 2:39 PM - DeadCatBounce
Dona, great news about your cast. Sorry it hurts but you have a great spirit and will be as good as new in no time (no paraprosdokian)
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:39 PM
December 21, 2011 2:40 PM - dibs
Hungary was cut to Junk by S&P. Another country where the horse was already out of the barn and interest rates went through the roof before these MORONS were on top of it.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:40 PM
December 21, 2011 2:43 PM - dibs
If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:43 PM
December 21, 2011 2:44 PM - DeadCatBounce
Maybe in the case of Hungary, the M stands for Magyar.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:44 PM
December 21, 2011 2:45 PM - dibs
We've got all this food here from brokers yet I'm still Hungary.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:45 PM
December 21, 2011 2:45 PM - dibs
Maybe if the Gabors had sent more money home....
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:45 PM
December 21, 2011 2:47 PM - Donatella
Tks, D-Cat. Yes, 6 I do PT now.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:47 PM
December 21, 2011 2:48 PM - sixyearsandcounting
It's probably Soros' fault.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:48 PM
December 21, 2011 2:49 PM - Slopefarm
Well, they magyar bed and now they must lay in it.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:49 PM
December 21, 2011 2:50 PM - BoerumHillScott
Isn't everything Soros's fault?
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:50 PM
December 21, 2011 2:53 PM - Slopefarm
I see you're all balkan at another punfest.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:53 PM
December 21, 2011 2:54 PM - dibs
I just thought I'd Czech back in.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:54 PM
December 21, 2011 2:56 PM - Slopefarm
Well, you found yourself in a punfest. Serbs you right.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:56 PM
December 21, 2011 2:56 PM - dibs
At least they like cats.....
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:56 PM
December 21, 2011 2:59 PM - Slopefarm
At least mail cats.
Edited at December 21, 2011 2:59 PM
December 21, 2011 2:59 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Bosnia Hurts a Vagina.
December 21, 2011 3:01 PM - Deleted
An eye for an eye.....

Another use of a dead cat.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:01 PM
December 21, 2011 3:06 PM - Slopefarm
You keep up with the dead cat jokes and you'll be the Kosovo lot of trouble, benson.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:06 PM
December 21, 2011 3:09 PM - DeadCatBounce
Benson, I am usually on your side but you are pushing your luck with this DeadCat idea...
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:09 PM
December 21, 2011 3:11 PM - Legion
More cats?!

ok,
here's another Conservative Hottie, Jedediah Bila:
December 21, 2011 3:14 PM - rf
No one seemed to like Mrs. Gingrich the third yesterday.
December 21, 2011 3:24 PM - Legion
Recommendation for really good cheesecake:

Circo's on the corner of Knickerbocker and Hart St. in Bushwick.
Been there since the 1930's and still looks it.
Good price too, $12.50 for a plain one, just ask for the confectionary sugar on top.

Also note: they got an "A" from the dept. of health.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:24 PM
December 21, 2011 3:26 PM - dibs
I make my own cheesecake. I pay for beefcake though.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:26 PM
December 21, 2011 3:27 PM - Legion
dibs,
isn't it difficult to make cheesecake? to make it light and fluffy.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:27 PM
December 21, 2011 3:30 PM - dibs
Not at all, Legion. Light and fluffy is baked, not refrigerated.

I've made white chocolate, pumpkin and plain cheesecakes.

There's a great quick cheesecake recipe that i refer to as "white trash" cheesecake...one small tub of Philadelphia cream cheese at room temp, mixed with one tub of cool whip (preferably the extra rich), pour into a graham cracker crust and refrigerate. it's actually pretty good.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:31 PM
December 21, 2011 3:38 PM - dibs
Key to cheesecake is that the cream cheese has to be room temp or it's gets lumpy. I have not made the other style cheesecake that is baked a bit harder on the outside. i think it uses more eggs and less cheese.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:38 PM
December 21, 2011 3:41 PM - DeLepp
Or if you in the mood to double your dosage of lipitor use mascarpone cheese instead.

dona, glad the cast is off.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:41 PM
December 21, 2011 3:42 PM - Legion
sounds good,
this Circo's cheesecake is definitely baked because it's light and fluffy.
I tend to like the ones with the graham crust. This one doesn't have it though.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:42 PM
December 21, 2011 3:44 PM - lechacal
I have contempt for cheesecake. It's cream cheese and sugar. What's so special about that? I don't touch the stuff.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:44 PM
December 21, 2011 3:44 PM - Deleted
My mom makes a good cheesecake. I wouldn't call it "light", however.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:44 PM
December 21, 2011 3:44 PM - Legion
funny you should mention mascarpone DeLepp,
I went to brunch this weekend with family and they offered a french toast with mascarpone cheese which I thought sounded odd, but it was the hit of the brunch.
Really good.
December 21, 2011 3:44 PM - dibs
Pumpkin cheesecake with gingersnap crust is great. White chocolate with chocolate cookie crust too.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:44 PM
December 21, 2011 3:45 PM - lechacal
On eRly train home. Opening Xmas presents with the kids in a few minutes. I have no idea what "I" got them. I hope it's good.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:45 PM
December 21, 2011 3:46 PM - dibs
"I have contempt for cheesecake. It's cream cheese and sugar. What's so special about that? I don't touch the stuff."
-lechecal

This is why sometimes i have more fun dining with Democrats...even at the Union League
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:46 PM
December 21, 2011 3:46 PM - Deleted
IN NYC, there are two variations of cheesecake: American and Italian. The latter is made with ricotta cheese. It's hard to explain the texture, but it's kind of soggy. I know that doesn't sound appetizing, but it's very good. I would imagine that's what Circo's sells.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:46 PM
December 21, 2011 3:47 PM - Legion
I don't think my kids read this blog so I can say that "santa" got legiongirl a Leapster pad which was very hard to find this year. Had to use a "connection" at Toys-r-Us.
December 21, 2011 3:48 PM - lechacal
You know what I love eating? Pretty much any kind of canned or preserved or smoked fish. I can eat pickled sardines literally all day long (or until I'm full I guess).
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:48 PM
December 21, 2011 3:49 PM - Legion
"I would imagine that's what Circo's sells."

I think so benson,
whenever I'm going some place and can't think of what to bring, I just stop there and pick one up.
always a hit.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:49 PM
December 21, 2011 3:50 PM - lechacal
I loathe Christmas and resent having to put my kids through it. I get very grumpy this time of year.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:50 PM
December 21, 2011 3:51 PM - Legion
lechacal,
This is the second day of Chanukah,
and 4 days 'till Christmas, are you opening presents early or late?
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:51 PM
December 21, 2011 3:51 PM - Slopefarm
jackal, today isn't Christmas. It is the second night of Chanukah, though. Why are you opening presents tonight? (And am I going to regret asking?)

The farmhand got a hot glue gun for art projects and The Hunger Games (paperback) for Chanukah from her parents, and some other good stuff from her grandparents and aunt. We save the bigger gifts for Christmas.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:51 PM
December 21, 2011 3:51 PM - dibs
Maybe you'd be less grumpy if you ate fewer canned fish
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:51 PM
December 21, 2011 3:52 PM - BoerumHillScott
I love cheesecake, and I have very mixed feelings about Christmas.

Edited at December 21, 2011 3:52 PM
December 21, 2011 3:54 PM - BoerumHillScott
I hate the gift buying/giving aspect of Christmas, except for my son.
I think there should a universal law of no presents for anyone over 18, and that is only from your parents and grandparents.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:54 PM
December 21, 2011 3:54 PM - Legion
...eating fish makes you smart though,
all those omega fatty acids are good for developing neurons.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:54 PM
December 21, 2011 3:55 PM - Slopefarm
I've managed to make the Juniors' version of cheesecake at home. Came out fairly well. Very light spongecake base instead of a crust.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:55 PM
December 21, 2011 3:56 PM - lechacal
I feel like I owe my kids something better than just going throu the Christmas motions every year like a bunch of zombies. But my wife insists and one must be strategic about where one uses his relationship capital.
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December 21, 2011 3:56 PM - Legion
BHS,
I kind of agree,
it's sort of odd sending gifts to siblings with their own kids and what not.
Everyone should just send a spiral ham around beginning in October so there's time to re-gift the same one.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:56 PM
December 21, 2011 3:57 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Lech, you should get your kids this book. Great stuff about making slingshots, building treehouses, getting in apple fights, etc. Wasn't much use to me growing up in an urban setting but my friends and I did the best we could. We started digging up part of the backyard to build an underground hut before my mom told us to stop. You can still see the depression in the soil today.

http://www.amazon.com/Private-Parents-Keep-Austin-Stevens/dp/0899090141
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:57 PM
December 21, 2011 3:57 PM - dibs
Yes, but I'd rather have a piece of salmon with crispy skin or countless other fish, NOT canned fish. I've had some incredible sardine sashimi...big sardinees, about 9-10" long
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:57 PM
December 21, 2011 3:57 PM - lechacal
Doing irv Xmas before getting in car and driving west.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:57 PM
December 21, 2011 3:58 PM - Slopefarm
"just going throu the Christmas motions every year like a bunch of zombies"

Your a foul one, lechacal . . .
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:58 PM
December 21, 2011 3:58 PM - dibs
Spiral hams are awful.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:58 PM
December 21, 2011 3:59 PM - rf
My daughter got a package of apple-flavored tea candles from Ikea for the first night of Chanukah. Tonight I think she'll get a 9-volt battery for the bathroom scale that both of us keep saying we are meaning to replace. I think I have all 8 gifts, including mortar and pestle from Ikea.
Edited at December 21, 2011 3:59 PM
December 21, 2011 4:00 PM - Legion
haha dibs,
I kind of like them, trick is not to let them overheat and dry out.
wrap them in foil like a mummy-cat.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:00 PM
December 21, 2011 4:01 PM - dibs
Yes, they are usually too dry. I'd rather just have a smoked ham from the grocery store...throw some maple glaze on it and it'll be juicy, tender and cut anyway you like
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:02 PM
December 21, 2011 4:03 PM - Legion
rf,
what's the mortar and pestle for?

"the pellet with the poison is in the vessel with the pestle..."
Danny Kaye:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/mv-F8HW2/the_pellet_with_the_poisons_in_the_vessel_with_the_pestle/
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:03 PM
December 21, 2011 4:06 PM - petebklyn
all the irv's I've known don't do christmas
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:06 PM
December 21, 2011 4:10 PM - rf
Legion, I'm not sure. She asked for it. Maybe to grind down cinnamon sticks and sugar so it dissolves instantly in her tea?

Edited at December 21, 2011 4:10 PM
December 21, 2011 4:15 PM - DeadCatBounce
Legion, I didn't think that was at all funny when I saw it when it first came out.
Now it seems very funny.
Danny Kaye was ahead of his time.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:15 PM
December 21, 2011 4:16 PM - Legion
I should drink more tea instead of coffee.
Civilized doctor's offices close for an hour or two in the afternoon to eat lunch or have tea or something.
I'm lucky if I can scarf down a 16 oz coke and whatever the drug reps bring around.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:16 PM
December 21, 2011 4:17 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I loathe Christmas and resent having to put my kids through it. I get very grumpy this time of year.

i get grumpy this time of year as well cuz every year i seem to get less and less and less and fewer and fewer and fewer gifts.

what i got for xmas this year (this is the final list, there won't be anymore gifts coming this year for me)

-25 dollars from my grandmother (she wound up sending a second card with cash after sending a card with nothing the first time.) i think she's psychic and saw me open up the first card. lol

-a 15 dollar itunes gift card. which i was a little distraught over at first because i dont have an ipod, but the Universe stepped in (well a coworker who overheard me grumbling about being the only person in the world without an ipod) and she said she had an extra one and gave me her old pink one. yay!

- a jar of salt (for real! a jar of salt)

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 4:17 PM
December 21, 2011 4:18 PM - Deleted
Danny Kaye started out life as an electrician in a NYC local. Every year he would come back to NYC to do a performance for the benefit of his old local.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:18 PM
December 21, 2011 4:19 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
My daughter got a package of apple-flavored tea candles from Ikea for the first night of Chanukah. Tonight I think she'll get a 9-volt battery for the bathroom scale that both of us keep saying we are meaning to replace. I think I have all 8 gifts, including mortar and pestle from Ikea.


omg what? lol. jewish people always would tell me that hannukah gifts are usually awful, but i kinda never believed them... i guess they were telling the truth!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 4:19 PM
December 21, 2011 4:20 PM - dibs
rob, my himalayan sea salt and salt blocks just arrived.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:20 PM
December 21, 2011 4:21 PM - Legion
DCB,
I used to watch that movie every time it was on as a kid.
Kaye was great as Hans Christian Anderson as well. As an adult I appreciate it more.
Also true with Jerry Lewis, there's a documentary about him making the rounds on Showtime or HBO,
I taped it this weekend. They've got everyone from Eddie Murphy to Steven Speilberg on there commenting.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:21 PM
December 21, 2011 4:22 PM - Legion
...don't let any pet slugs near the salt blocks!!!
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:22 PM
December 21, 2011 4:22 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
when i first opened it, i really thought it was a big bottle of cocaine lol

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 4:22 PM
December 21, 2011 4:26 PM - dibs
yeah, and you were Snow White.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:26 PM
December 21, 2011 4:30 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Snow Black, bitch

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 4:30 PM
December 21, 2011 4:36 PM - dibs
Don't you be callin me bitch and dissin me, child.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:36 PM
December 21, 2011 4:37 PM - DeadCatBounce
This standoff over the payroll tax cut extension is starting to look like a big black eye for the Democrats.
The Democrats in the Senate passed their version of the bill, which only covered the next two months and then went on vacation.The Republicans in the House passed a year long extension and are still working, and are sticking around hoping the Democrats come back to work out a compromise.
When I get my first employment check with a bigger payroll deduction taken out, I know who I am going to blame. The guys who ran away!!!!
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:37 PM
December 21, 2011 4:44 PM - Legion
I haven't followed that too much DCB,
what's the deal there? The Senate passed a 2 month extension on the "tax cut" and ran off
then the House voted that one down and made their own 1 Year one with no Senate to pass it in full?

Edited at December 21, 2011 4:44 PM
December 21, 2011 4:45 PM - BoerumHillScott
I hope the extension fails, although I suspect there will be a compromise.
We don't need the deficit to keep getting bigger.

What ever happened to conservatives believing in a balanced budget?
Oh yeah, that platform of the party died when Bush II got elected.

Edited at December 21, 2011 4:45 PM
December 21, 2011 4:45 PM - Arkady
I love Christmas. I adore amassing presents throughout the year as well as the on-line ordering orgy as the date nears. It's wonderful to see people's surprise & pleasure when they open their treats.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:45 PM
December 21, 2011 4:47 PM - DeadCatBounce
They simply passed their own version of the bill -- standard operating procedure.
Normally the two sides would work together on a compromise measure that would pass both houses.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:47 PM
December 21, 2011 4:48 PM - rf
Rob, she asked for the tea candles. She got a big present too--very cool new glasses, which she only wears in the house before and after contacts. They look really nice on her. Not cheap though!
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:47 PM
December 21, 2011 4:53 PM - Legion
Half the Senate is probably already in St. Barts catching crabs from dirty celebrities.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:53 PM
December 21, 2011 4:58 PM - Deleted
"What ever happened to conservatives believing in a balanced budget?"

Still there. Solution: reform runaway entitlement spending. As I've said before: you don't cure an addiction by feeding the addict more money.
Edited at December 21, 2011 4:58 PM
December 21, 2011 5:03 PM - Legion
State Senator Karl Kruger stepped down today.
He represents a large part of Brooklyn. Plead guilty to taking 500k in bribes.
Too much corruption is the problem as well with politicians on both sides.
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:03 PM
December 21, 2011 5:08 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i was just kidding (sorta) rf.

so im just in line in the bank and this total nutjob started babbling to everyone about all his life he has found everything he wanted. specifically MONEY. he brought quantum physics into the conversation and i was like hmm i dont think think any of the things you are saying has anything to do with quantum physics, but i dont really know anything about quantum physics. he said one time years ago he was late with his rent and on his way home he found a bag full of german franks that was just like 20 dollars shy of the rent he owed. he traded them in, and then it turned out they were no longer any good because germany stopped using that brand or something in the 70s? but he slowly paid off the bank (or maybe someone else?) throughout the year, blah blah blah. then he said he found 10 fifty dollar metrocards once (do they even make 50 dollar metrocards!?!?). then he was talking about being the light when entering a room and when youre the dark one who enters the room all this bad stuff will happen to you, blah blah blah. then he turns to some girl in line and he says "touch me. go ahead touch me" fuh-REAK

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 5:08 PM
December 21, 2011 5:14 PM - Legion
Sounds like that guy was eating his Poinsettia plant earlier in the day.
December 21, 2011 5:14 PM - BoerumHillScott
The fact is that the last time Republicans had power, they increased spending while cutting revenue.

I agree that there are major issues on the spending side, and they should be addressed before creating or extending any tax cuts.

From my perspective, the majority of both sides have the same attitude that we should ignore the debt issues for now and address it at some vague future time when things are better.
The differ in approaches in priority, but from an income < expense perspective, they are the same.
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:14 PM
December 21, 2011 5:14 PM - Donatella
*rob* you are really ratcheting up your word count today. Re the above ^^^^^ some people are just mentally ill.


Edited at December 21, 2011 5:14 PM
December 21, 2011 5:14 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
what was funny tho was that i was cursing him out under my breath for something right before he started going off on his lunatic rant!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 5:14 PM
December 21, 2011 5:21 PM - rf
WSJ editorial says House should pass the Senate bill:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204791104577110573867064702.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:21 PM
December 21, 2011 5:21 PM - Deleted
Scott;

Yes, the Republican Congress under DeLay was fiscally imprudent. It's been acknowledged a number of times. Now that we've gotten that piece of history out of the way, can we look at what is in front of us? I believe Paul Ryan proposed a serious plan for Medicare reform. Was there a serious counter-proposal from the Dems, or mere demagoguery on throwing grandma under the bus?

Likewise, President Obama's own deficit reduction comittee proposed a plan. What was done with that?
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:21 PM
December 21, 2011 5:21 PM - Slopefarm
Well, that's that.
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:21 PM
December 21, 2011 5:22 PM - Donatella
The discussion of social spending and the "blue social model" is so often framed in moral terms, when in fact the Social Security and Medicare were designed for a world with a totally different demographic and simply cannot work in perpetuity in its current design.
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:22 PM
December 21, 2011 5:25 PM - Arkady
For you, rob, some quantum physics:
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:25 PM
December 21, 2011 5:28 PM - Legion
Here's the difference from today's predicament BHS, from my perspective.
For decades both parties took turns bashing each other for alternately spending too much or taxing too much/too little.
Either way they knew they were safe because the Debt/GDP ratios were well behind the red line.
So it was like taking turns diving into a pool full of water and critiquing each other's style.

Then somebody started draining the pool very rapidly, due to a combination of globalization, world wide recession, housing bubble bust, changeover to a service economy, etc.

Now the Debt/GDP ratio is approaching its theoretical limit of 100-120% where it becomes a sovereign debt crisis.
One big global event and things could tip over easily.

The question becomes, not who was busy spending or taxing too much or too little,
it becomes; who has the right long term solution based on history.

I don't believe that spending more is the solution here because I think the economists advocating that have an ulterior motive which is to let the economy fail and have it re-structured in a more "redistributive" mold.


Edited at December 21, 2011 5:28 PM
December 21, 2011 5:30 PM - BoerumHillScott
Benson, I agree we should look ahead.
There is a lot of debate over what the best approach is to get income and expenses to line up with each other.
Until that happens, I think it is irresponsible to dig the hole deeper by creating and extending tax cuts.

The whole theory that you can "starve" federal expenses by reducing taxes has shown to be a total failure, at least until you reach Greek levels of debt.

If you notice, I did not mention either party.
I feel that both are being irresponsible right now.

Edited at December 21, 2011 5:30 PM
December 21, 2011 5:32 PM - BoerumHillScott
Anyway, my son wants to play video games with me now, so my OT political discussions will have to be put on hold.
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:32 PM
December 21, 2011 5:34 PM - Legion
Totally agree donatella,
How can we have a serious national discussion about the necessary changes that need to be implemented in our social welfare programs, when each side is ready to take the situation to ridiculous extremes?


Edited at December 21, 2011 5:34 PM
December 21, 2011 5:37 PM - Deleted
I notice that no one answered my question: has there been a serious proposal from the Democrats on reforming Medicare which, according to its own trustees, will go bankrupt in about 7 years.
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:37 PM
December 21, 2011 5:45 PM - Legion
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December 21, 2011 5:46 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
You know what happens when you don't post enough cat pics???

.....
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:46 PM
December 21, 2011 5:50 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
We just got our Charlie Brown Christmas tree. It just needs some *love*, and it will be beautiful! : )
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:50 PM
December 21, 2011 5:53 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Sure, Charlie Brown, I can tell you what Christmas is all about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKk9rv2hUfA
Edited at December 21, 2011 5:53 PM
December 21, 2011 5:55 PM - Legion
I know a lot here like to skip over my rants,
but be assured they are always based on fact:

"Debt-to-GDP Threshold
In a paper by Carmen Reinhart and Ken Rogoff, the authors of This Time Its Different found that when government debt-to-GDP ratio rises above 90%, it lowers the future potential GDP of that country by more than 1%. It also locks in a slow-growth, high-unemployment economy. The authors point to history that shows that public debt tends to soar after a financial crisis, rising by an average of 86% in real terms. Defaults by sovereign entities often follow. "


Bush II took the debt/gdp ratio to 70-75% from Clinton's 65%

Obama ran with it, past 90% to 100% and rising.

Hear me now and listen to me later.


Edited at December 21, 2011 5:55 PM
December 21, 2011 6:01 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Apparently, one can buy a Charlie Brown Christmas tree at KMart, for $7.49.

http://www.kmart.com/peanuts-24-34-charlie-brown-christmas-tree/p-009W682269110003P
Edited at December 21, 2011 6:01 PM
December 21, 2011 6:07 PM - Donatella
I am not aware of one Benson. I wonder to what extent one can separate out generalized increases in health care from the spiraling costs in Medicare. For instance, since I did not have my insurance card with me when I had the injury to my wrist, I was sent the bill directly from the ER with the plan to inform the insurance company about the accident and then have them take care of the charges. For a splint, an X Ray, a consultation with an ER doctor, and a tetnus shot, I was billed 3,400 dollars. Of course, the insurance company paid less than that, but that is mind boggling. The follow up costs: consultation with a hand specialist, a real cast construction was another 1,500. Then PT is probably another 2,000. $$$$

Edited at December 21, 2011 6:06 PM
December 21, 2011 6:31 PM - Donatella
Damn don't want that to be a thread killer. I am going to be buying some serious amount of Italian Christmas cookies. I am going to Marzullo's on Union, which makes a great Christmas basket. I am really looking forward to Christmas with my family. We all have a lot to be grateful for.

Edited at December 21, 2011 6:31 PM
December 21, 2011 6:38 PM - petebklyn
is Benson referring to republican proposal for medicare that newt called rightwing social engineering?
Cost of delivering (or is it receiving?) medical care is the issue that needs to be addressed. Medical costs (or insurance)
are major drag on governments, businesses, individuals. Medical bills are biggest reason for personal bankruptcies.

Edited at December 21, 2011 6:38 PM
December 21, 2011 6:39 PM - Legion
I'm still at work here donatella
and I agree about the unreal cost of healthcare.
Why should it cost $5,000 to treat a non-displaced fracture?
Cost is the main problem in medicine and healthcare policy.

Glad to hear you have the cast off though. Hope you are feeling better.
Edited at December 21, 2011 6:39 PM
December 21, 2011 6:42 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
dod your wrist wind up being smelly when they took the cats off donna?

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 6:42 PM
December 21, 2011 6:43 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh i dont know WHY i stopped in to housing works in park slope after work this evening, but NEVER again and im serious this time. ive mentioned how in the last month or so theyve essentially doubled their prices on the same basic shit right? well went in today and things were even MORE expensive. get the fuck out of here, it's not longer a thrift store, it's a damn flea pop up shop!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 6:43 PM
December 21, 2011 6:43 PM - petebklyn
I'm such a good landlord. Giving tenants cranberry/orange loaf I made, along with some chocolate and tiny bottle of frangelica. (I don't want them to get too drunk and make noise).

December 21, 2011 6:46 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i did notice like 10 giant heavy trash bags on the curb. so it's garbage night for their donations that they dont think they can sell or arent moonfacey enough. if youre looking for cheap ass xmas gifts, im sure you can find stuff there. a lot of times they have brand new stuff in those bags. ive been to the bags many times while people were scavenging and ive found some great things, but i wont literally open the bags and be the only one picking thru it all, that's just embarrassing. but if i stop by around midnight tonight im sure the scavengers will be there in full force!!!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 6:46 PM
December 21, 2011 6:46 PM - petebklyn
I feel wiped out today and not in mood to cook dinner. Got to get up real early tomorrow ---driving to northport.

Edited at December 21, 2011 6:46 PM
December 21, 2011 6:47 PM - petebklyn
Just grab the whole bag and take somewhere else. What in the world would you need at housing works that you don't already have anyway?
Edited at December 21, 2011 6:47 PM
December 21, 2011 6:49 PM - Legion
haha,
pete that is very good of you as a landlord!
Do your tenants give you gifts too?

lol @ pop-up flea shop.
btw if anyone needs a pair of Apple speakers, those clear sphere shaped ones,
I've got a pair to give away. I don't know if you can use them with the ipad or any of those other products,
Apple seems to have made the plug in jack on this thing smaller than a circumcised gnat.
Edited at December 21, 2011 6:49 PM
December 21, 2011 6:49 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Kick them out and let us move in, Pete! I'll bake for YOU! ; )

I put the lights on our Charlie Brown tree. It looks so sweet. It's all lopsided and kind of funky, but it's amazing what a string of lights and some pretty ornaments can do for a little tree.

Tomorrow, BH and I are baking all day. He wants to make Chocolate Chip cookies, and I want to bake more Rugelach. Then Friday, Saturday and Christmas Day we will deliver them to some peeps. I pulled out our Christmas CDs, so that we can play them while we bake.
Edited at December 21, 2011 6:49 PM
December 21, 2011 6:51 PM - Legion
...don't forget to play the Charlie Brown music too cobble!
Edited at December 21, 2011 6:51 PM
December 21, 2011 6:56 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
What in the world would you need at housing works that you don't already have anyway?

ive been on the hunt for some decent used shoes for work. oh god, im so embarrassed to say that. is that gross? and i like picking up the occassional knick-knack here and there.

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 6:55 PM
December 21, 2011 6:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
He wants to make Chocolate Chip cookies, and I want to bake more Rugelach. Then Friday, Saturday and Christmas Day we will deliver them to some peeps.

im case you forgot... 321 1st street, apt A6!!! plus please give me an accurate window of your arrival, dont be all cableguy-ish with your estimated time of arrival. thanks!!! if im not home, you can leave them with Hamad at the bodega on the corner of Union and 4th avenue (the bodega right outside the train stop...) NOT the renovated bodega next door!!!


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 6:59 PM
December 21, 2011 6:59 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Christmas time is here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPG3zSgm_Qo
Edited at December 21, 2011 6:59 PM
December 21, 2011 7:00 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh, it's also on the gowanus side of 4th avenue, not the bodega on the corner of where Park Slope Comptom starts!!!


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:00 PM
December 21, 2011 7:01 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Charlie Brown Christmas Dance!! Play it, Schroeder!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQybajU2GNk&feature=related
Edited at December 21, 2011 7:02 PM
December 21, 2011 7:01 PM - Legion
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Edited at December 21, 2011 7:01 PM
December 21, 2011 7:02 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
OH and i learned something cobble about baking recently i thought i should pass it on to you before you start your baking this weekend!!! when you put your baked goods in a tupperware type container, also put in a wet scrunched up paper towel!!! it keeps them moist.

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:02 PM
December 21, 2011 7:03 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
ugh i HATE when important posts get lost on the last page when a new page starts!!! cobble, please see the end of the last page, i put my info in there for the cookie drop off!!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:03 PM
December 21, 2011 7:03 PM - Donatella
Pete, wow, you ARE a good landlord!! You can always drop off some here too.

*rob* no it wasn't funky at all taking off the cast. You created a very creepy image; I just need cream for my skin. Legion, what I didn't really understand is that I have a comminted injury. So the bone was crunched a little but the guy says it is healing and I should be ok. He said that I was in denial about the seriousness of the injury. So maybe the extra money was for the psychological analysis.

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:03 PM
December 21, 2011 7:05 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
So maybe the extra money was for the psychological analysis.

no it wasn't. it was for his crotchfruits' chinese language immersian classes.

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:05 PM
December 21, 2011 7:07 PM - Donatella
*rob* you are so bitter.

:-)


Edited at December 21, 2011 7:07 PM
December 21, 2011 7:08 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
there are just ten chinese survival words that everyone should learn. just in case...

hungry
horny
happy
sad
beer
broke
bathroom
911
poomist
moonface

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:08 PM
December 21, 2011 7:09 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
The Grinch Song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzXKWKaxt3c&feature=related
Edited at December 21, 2011 7:09 PM
December 21, 2011 7:10 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Cobbly...
Edited at December 21, 2011 7:10 PM
December 21, 2011 7:10 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
the grinch was a republican turned democrat, right? or at least how that parable was supposed to be shoved down everyones throats!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:10 PM
December 21, 2011 7:10 PM - petebklyn
just went out to move car...very balmy.
Happy Solstice one and all. Is there a solstice dance?
Tenants will probably give me bottle of wine. Just to keep on my good side.
December 21, 2011 7:11 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
OMG that piled of cookies looks like a vagina from behind in upper butt doggie style view on it's side!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:11 PM
December 21, 2011 7:12 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
papilloma warts and all!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:12 PM
December 21, 2011 7:13 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
seriously, tilt your head to the right 90 degrees and look at the cookies. gack


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:13 PM
December 21, 2011 7:13 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
LOL, Snaps!

The key tomorrow, will be not letting BH eat all the stuff we bake!!
Edited at December 21, 2011 7:13 PM
December 21, 2011 7:13 PM - Donatella
*rob* ^^^^^^get Help.
December 21, 2011 7:14 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Pete, I'm serious. Toss those losers, and take me and BH. I'll bake for you every week!!
Edited at December 21, 2011 7:14 PM
December 21, 2011 7:14 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
help for what?

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:14 PM
December 21, 2011 7:17 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
That's right, Cobbly...focus on BH. Nevermind the chubby black ninja scaling your building's exterior and reaching into the kitchen window to pilfer noms :-)
Edited at December 21, 2011 7:17 PM
December 21, 2011 7:19 PM - Donatella
oh never mind *rob*. I'm going to have some dinner....
Edited at December 21, 2011 7:19 PM
December 21, 2011 7:42 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Black ninja scaling my building!! ROFL!! You could just take the elevator and come in and I'd serve you some...but have it your way!! ; )
Edited at December 21, 2011 7:42 PM
December 21, 2011 7:48 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I figure I need to spice things up in my life, so I'm gonna take up building scaling :-)
Edited at December 21, 2011 7:48 PM
December 21, 2011 7:52 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
LOL! You nutball! Just come over, you can be our *quality control* specialist. BH just likes it all, he's not a good judge! ; )
Edited at December 21, 2011 7:52 PM
December 21, 2011 7:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
sometimes i think you two should just *do it* already and get it over with. jeez, you can cut the lesbionics with a butter knife in here.

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 7:59 PM
December 21, 2011 8:02 PM - Deleted
New job rules. Shit, I'm tired. Feel like I'm fighting a bug off.
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:02 PM
December 21, 2011 8:10 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
rob, One day, you'll have an actual good friend, and you'll see that it's a nice thing, not a sexual thing.

Glad to hear it, DH! Hope the bug doesn't win!
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:10 PM
December 21, 2011 8:13 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
my job all week was like working as a nurse in the turbuculosis wing, so many people are sick, and i guess with that many people are sick it's pointless to really stay home? i was sick weeks ago and havent caught this round of whatever it is... but i can't stand hypochondria and im not accusing anyone of that, and ive be a hypochondriac at times myself, you have to wonder how much is fake versus how much is real. dh, i didnt realize you started your new job already. liking it? first few weeks are the worst (or the best). this friday is my last friday off. had fridays off for the last 2 1/2 months cuz i didnt want my vacation days go to waste, and honestly it worked out better doing it that way cuz it's easier to make up one day of work and catch up than coming back a week or two later and being completely overwhelmed. that's my rationalization for not being able to take caribbean vacations and shit.

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:13 PM
December 21, 2011 8:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
rob, One day, you'll have an actual good friend, and you'll see that it's a nice thing, not a sexual thing.

1.) that is totally uncalled for.
2.) i have actual real friends (im not sure what you consider an actual real friend tho, so maybe i dont...)
3.) you two flirt like two ladies sharing a cell in a womens prison! sorry if you don't see that.


Edited at December 21, 2011 8:16 PM
December 21, 2011 8:19 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
and im sorry but i just caught up on brownstoner a little while ago. Dave and Minard's little flirtations are SERIOUSLY getting outta control, im SHOCKED Mr. Flea(bag) hasnt dropped the axe on them yet and banned them! my favorite was minard calling this board "Live From Brooklyn" lol. serious scott, you should totally change the name of this board to that, too funny on so many levels

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:19 PM
December 21, 2011 8:23 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
cuz SERIOUSLY i consider you some of the most bizarre characters EVER (even tho none of you are particularly being fake online in any way) but then at the get togethers everyone gets fucked up and it's like no one really is who they seem to be. which again i find strange cuz i dont think any of you have an internet persona (i HATE that term), but maybe it's true. maybe it's because it's impossible to talk as fast as it is typing or something? and if you talk as much as you type, there wouldnt be enough time to get your actual thoughts out? do people just hold it all in when they are in person? is IJ perhaps the most REAL one of all of us? is it because no one sports pigtails in real life?


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:23 PM
December 21, 2011 8:25 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
perhaps it's psycho-physiological? i know for a fact my fingers can say everything i want to say in a way that my mouth can never seem to get out. not because i dont WANT my mouth to convey the same things, but that it's literally impossible.

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:25 PM
December 21, 2011 8:26 PM - minard lafever
Seasons Greetings everyone!!
I just want to wish a very merry Christmas to all my favorite PLUSA saints including (but not limited to) MM, BX, Snaps, and the patron saint of patience and forebearance....busyparker.....or cobbleparker....or alternatesideparker.....you know who.
Tomorrow I'm off to Napa. To Calistoga of all places. Mud baths, wine, olive canapes, I can get into it.
Don't let your local Napoleon Bonaparte bully you around.
Happy New Year!
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:26 PM
December 21, 2011 8:26 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
am i cyber-autistic and don't know it? would that qualify for SSDI?

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:26 PM
December 21, 2011 8:27 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
well look who the cats dragged in! holy bat signal...

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:27 PM
December 21, 2011 8:27 PM - rf
No wonder you love the OT After Dark. It's a festival of *rob*!
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:27 PM
December 21, 2011 8:28 PM - BoerumHillScott
Merry Christmas, Minard. May your travels be relaxing and stress free.
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:28 PM
December 21, 2011 8:28 PM - Deleted
I guess none of us guys rate with Minard!
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:28 PM
December 21, 2011 8:30 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Minard, happy new years to you as well. Have fun on you homoerotic vacation ("Mud baths, wine, olive canapes, I can get into it." i bet you can!).

quote:
MM, BX, Snaps, and the patron saint of patience and forebearance....busyparker.....or cobbleparker

i smell a fetish there...

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:30 PM
December 21, 2011 8:31 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I guess none of us guys rate with Minard!

yeah that was the first thing i noticed as well. i mean, ugh, why not join an actual knitting circle, minard!?

now im sounding like a MISOGYNIST (i can spell that word with accuracy now)

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:31 PM
December 21, 2011 8:31 PM - Legion
Make sure you stay on the "Liberal" side of Napa.
Then again, who can tell when they're used to putting their heads in the sand.

Arggh, can't stand poseurs.
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:31 PM
December 21, 2011 8:33 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
No wonder you love the OT After Dark. It's a festival of *rob*!

that's not true. the others are probably putting their kids to sleep and then getting laid (lol) and then they come out later in the night. like vampires and stuff. the cat ladies usually fall asleep in an hour or so.

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:33 PM
December 21, 2011 8:34 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
(dave included)

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:34 PM
December 21, 2011 8:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
PLUSA saints

they all graduated from this place

(dont hate me people)


Edited at December 21, 2011 8:38 PM
December 21, 2011 8:39 PM - Deleted
Isn't Minard a gracious person? He stops by to offer his Season's Greetings, and uses the opportunity to settle some scores. Now there's a man who is in the spirit of the season.
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:39 PM
December 21, 2011 8:40 PM - Legion
Who even posts on brownnoser.com anymore?
It's about as interesting as a hemorrhoid ad over there.

Seriously, how many times can someone post that they like the layout of a co-op,
they don't like the decor and they would love to have it for 200k less?

GTFO.
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:40 PM
December 21, 2011 8:42 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
trying to google gay cats i stumbled upon this. things that make you go hmmmmm

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:42 PM
December 21, 2011 8:46 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Who even posts on brownnoser.com anymore?

from what i can tell, the kinds of people who have orgasms over something as fucking retarded as an upper crust fast food joint like shake shack finally MAKING it to their "fair borough" we've made it Dorothy, we've finally MADE IT! ::barf::

*rob*

December 21, 2011 8:51 PM - Legion
...and the above rant ^^^^ doesn't just apply to NOP and Minard and 11217 better known as Crownmolding.
there's a whole host of people I like to call one-dimensionals.




Edited at December 21, 2011 8:51 PM
December 21, 2011 8:52 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
That's why I go off on NOP,
I never said much about him because it just seemed like a kindly old dude tuning in to brownstoner to hear about his old neighborhood,
then you read his recent postings and you realize it's just a snooty liberal with a no depth beyond the back page of The New Yorker magazine and a subscription to the Met.
Then you realize why they had no interest in jumping into a conversation once in a while.

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:52 PM
December 21, 2011 8:53 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Merry Xmas Minard! I miss you :-)

and ROFL at "alternatesideparker"!!!!! I kinda like that one!
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:53 PM
December 21, 2011 8:56 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
snappy's being an enable du jour cuz she got a shout out from minard :-/
don't be a piece of scotch tape, girl!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 8:56 PM
December 21, 2011 8:58 PM - Donatella
I am not commenting on Minard. I can't sustain any more injuries. Merry Christmas, Minard, even though I wasn't on your list either.
December 21, 2011 8:58 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Oh, and Cobbly, I'll gladly be the quality control for the non-nut, non-chocolate cookies. I'll bring my own bib and glass of milk. Just be ready to roll me down to the street so the next car service I try can get me home :-)
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:58 PM
December 21, 2011 8:58 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Merry Christmas, Minard! Thanks for dropping by! Hope you have a lovely time up in Napa — lovely part of the world! SMOOCH!
Edited at December 21, 2011 8:58 PM
December 21, 2011 9:01 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
and what i mean by being a piece of scotch tape is meaning that if all of us were on that Survivor show, who would make it to the end and who would go home first? the scotch tape peeps always make it to the end for some reason! grrrrrrr. honestly, i'd rather be voted first off than have to kiss up to people and not speak my mind amongst a group of people no matter how disaparate (i dont even know if that's a word and i dont care).

sadly, i think lech would win just based on his annoyingly blabberations about struggling in the country life. okay, i know i SHOULD know, but who was it that joined the circus as a kid or something? that person would probably win as well and probably be in the final two with cobble sitting there in the final three telling the entire jury how they spent the last month surviving on her baked goods. grrrr


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 9:01 PM
December 21, 2011 9:02 PM - Donatella
oh NEVER mind, I see the Christmas Greetings are NOT LIMITED to the list. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!


Edited at December 21, 2011 9:02 PM
December 21, 2011 9:02 PM - Legion
I have to hand it to our intrepid posters here,
they can dish it out and take it as good as anyone.

I have no respect for people just looking for an internet
echo chamber.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:02 PM
December 21, 2011 9:04 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I see the Bitter-Bunch are here this evening.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:04 PM
December 21, 2011 9:06 PM - rf
Really! No holiday cheer here! Happy Chanukah everyone!
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:06 PM
December 21, 2011 9:07 PM - Donatella
Happy Chanukah rf!!!
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:07 PM
December 21, 2011 9:08 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Happy Hannukah, rf!!
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:08 PM
December 21, 2011 9:08 PM - Legion
Yeah,
ba humbug.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:08 PM
December 21, 2011 9:09 PM - Legion
"from what i can tell, the kinds of people who have orgasms over something as fucking retarded as an upper crust fast food joint like shake shack finally MAKING it to their "fair borough" we've made it Dorothy, we've finally MADE IT! ::barf::"

lol,
I've wandered over there on occasion and it is just like that,
ohhh, ahhhhh
I hear a new Apple store is considering Brooklyn,
ooohhhhh, ahhhhh
It's so like Manhattan
oohhhhh, ahhhhhh
I only hand wash my diapers with
soap made from liposuction fat.
ooohhhh, ahhhhh
look at the price per square foot of that duplex!
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:09 PM
December 21, 2011 9:09 PM - petebklyn
bitter-bunch or butter-bitch?

Merry Christmas to Minard. Never mind the scores.....he just came in to make us jealous of his trip plans.
Off to bed......getting up at 6am.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:09 PM
December 21, 2011 9:10 PM - Legion
benson,
why do you think I'm letting loose with the venom?

It just amazes me how many people there are out there with no dimension.
That's why I go off on NOP,
I never said much about him because it just seemed like a kindly old dude tuning in to brownstoner to hear about his old neighborhood,
then you read his recent postings and you realize it's just a snooty liberal with a no depth beyond the back page of The New Yorker magazine and a subscription to the Met.
Then you realize why they had no interest in jumping into a conversation once in a while.

And don't tell me, people have a right to stick to their own "ideas",
if that's so, then go live in a liberal monastary and devote your life to engraving the life works of Noam Chomsky.
Otherwise, engage and don't be a douche about hearing alternative ideas.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:10 PM
December 21, 2011 9:10 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh shut up you nicie-nicies.. Bitterness is Beautiful. It's the new Black is Beautiful movement! and no one is being bitter. i think it's more bitter to throw your nose in the air and ignore stuff. You all just licked Minnie's taint when he essentially dissed this entire board. youre a bunch of traitors. If someone went on on say, eh, RF on another board i'd be throwing down. but you all licked his butthole and wished him a happy new years back (well i guess i did too... but still). you'd all never make to the final 3 of ANY reality tv show! i know none of you wish that most likely, but welcome to the new world. for some of us that might just be our ONLY future prospects. im practicing. feel free to fall behind...


*rob*

December 21, 2011 9:11 PM - Legion
".....he just came in to make us jealous of his trip plans."

what's that?
getting dipped in oil and rolled in pubic hair?

Edited at December 21, 2011 9:11 PM
December 21, 2011 9:14 PM - Legion
*rob* is right,
show some loyalty, why don't you.

Edited at December 21, 2011 9:14 PM
December 21, 2011 9:14 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Really! No holiday cheer here! Happy Chanukah everyone!

hmmm. okay. im gonna go wrap up a candy wrapper with some newspaper and gift it to you now. there IS cheer here. FYI, if my post sounds offensive, you didnt read the earlier post where RF wrapped up a 9 volt battery as a hannuka gift lol. it's like when i get free shit from work and recycle those as gifts, but oddly, worse! yes yes, i know there are BIG gifts too, but still, if someone wrapped a 9 volt battery and gave it to me as a gift there would be a hole in the window or someone's head in the shape of a rectangle. i'd rather someone give me a real shitty gift like a drawing. that's real. a battery from giant companies is dumb if it costs a dollar at the bodega.



*rob*

December 21, 2011 9:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
the fucking funny party? i refuse to buy 6 AA batteries gotta buy the expensive ones to test out a Sega gamegear that i bought (my third one) and hoping the capacitors are not shot.... but i refuse to pay for batteries and if i buy 6 dollar store AA batteries it wont exactly work for what i need to test it out to do. GAAAAAAAAAAAAH. RF, you got 6 AA batteries for me!?!? IM SERIOUS


Edited at December 21, 2011 9:15 PM
December 21, 2011 9:17 PM - Donatella
This is getting a little demented, but it's funny. Legion, are you close to the beach? It must be nice to walk there when the weather is unseasonably sultry. I miss my parents beach bungalow. I love the littoral coast of NYC.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:17 PM
December 21, 2011 9:18 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
getting dipped in oil and rolled in pubic hair?

:-/ Shake Shake: Dave oh wait, he likes them smooth. the joke still works tho. replace pubes with feathers or something

*rob*

December 21, 2011 9:18 PM - BoerumHillScott
I'm from the South, where we are always nice in public, then talk shit about people and backstab when they are not there.
December 21, 2011 9:19 PM - Deleted
Legion;

Look at the bright side: any movement that refuses to engage and walls itself is on the road to intellectual inbreeding. Look at who is willing to engage, and who looks for the comfort of an amen corner. It's an indicator.


Edited at December 21, 2011 9:19 PM
December 21, 2011 9:20 PM - Legion
I'm very close donatella, it's just down the block.
I like to hear the ocean when I walk legiondog.
Now that it's winter, I can also go on the sand with him.
October through April is ok to have the dogs on the beach.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:20 PM
December 21, 2011 9:20 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I'm from the South, where we are always nice in public, then talk shit about people and backstab when they are not there.

that is usually why people from the South on reality TV shows either get the end and win or get kicked off first off. thinking Amy from Big Brother 3 and all stars...

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 9:20 PM
December 21, 2011 9:22 PM - Donatella
I learned that about the south from living in Japan, Scott. The Japanese have a horror of open conflict of any kind and show all kinds of elaborate courtesy to people they know. But they can be as cruel as they come.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:22 PM
December 21, 2011 9:24 PM - Donatella
I used to go to the beach for walks during the winter, Legion. I used to live on the water -- my temporary residence after Kansas City. It was magical. Cold, but on a day like today stunning.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:24 PM
December 21, 2011 9:27 PM - Legion
I love living near the water,
on one side is the Atlantic on the other is Jamaica Bay.
We used to go to the beach every New Year's with a bottle of champagne
and sit on the life guard chairs in the cold.
Maybe I'll do it again this year. It is amazing in cold weather, especially when you look up at the
sky on a clear night.
I've been watching Venus for the past week up there, amazingly bright!
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:27 PM
December 21, 2011 9:30 PM - minard lafever
oh come on u guys, I haven't even read everything. I'm not bragging about my travel plans, I'm visiting family, but Napa is a pretty nice place, after Brooklyn of course.
I admit, humbly, that the lady posters here are my favorites. so? is that so bad?
Ditmas, Arkady, Montrose, Bx, Snappy, Donatella, RF. are sorta my favorities....
but wait, so is cgar (so witty) and of course Bhill (so competent) and legion...the other latino on the site...with whom I disagree politically but I think I understand the wellspring of those feelings.

December 21, 2011 9:30 PM - Legion
Is that true about the Japanese donatella?
Would they really talk behind somebody's back like that?
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:30 PM
December 21, 2011 9:31 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
intellectual inbreeding

that is an AWESOME term, and it's one of the reasons why a lot of people keep themselves out of academia to begin with. i remember in college, the way to an A was always just write a paper that included all the current buzzwords that the professors would repeat in lectures ad nauseum. im not political, but honestly, i find liberals these days are completely the most pig-headed and closed off ones that even exist. what is it exactly that you are protecting or trying to get done? also dont dare throw out anything that ends in -ism cuz im sorry but that is SO lasy century. if anything, it's pretty obvious who really is keeping people down and in their place these days. astonishing how many privileged people dont see that (well that's not true, they do...). i find the whole system really gross. it's a giant slap in the face of people who came from very humble beginnings. maybe some people dont even want your bird feed for survival, ever thing of that?

ever feel sorry for one pigeon? feed it? then see how many more pigeons saw that someone was throwing down free feed and then there was 10 pigeons? newsflash: 9 of those pigeons would have found their food to filly their tummies soon enough, but instead the government feed is just a TAD easier to get, so why not? now those 9 pigeons have zero reason to engage with other pigeons and figure out ways to feed themselves and make something good out of it, perhaps inventing and stuff new ways of feeding, new ways of distribution.

sorry, i just dont subscribe to the model of bloated government giving and giving and giving on the backs of people who sometimes can barely afford to buy their own foods. i mean fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. i should start protesting that i cant afford to buy all my groceries at Whole Foods like the rest of Neubrookleuns moonface community. again, ::barf:: learn responsibility, learn that the general populace is NOT your mommy (ever played Simcity!?!?), and especially learn that at the end of the day people who have to keep paying taxes to pay for people to do nothing WILL just be sticking tomatoes and packets of Knorr's pasta alfredo up their pants and in their asses.

*rob*


Edited at December 21, 2011 9:31 PM
December 21, 2011 9:33 PM - rf
Rob I have plenty of double-A's. All that holiday cheer, you expect me to deliver them? I DON'T THINK SO! And I guarantee you that my kid will like her 9-volt! I gave her a chocolate bar today.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:33 PM
December 21, 2011 9:34 PM - MontroseMorris
Happy Holidays to Minard!

After reading all of that vitriol against the man, it's no wonder he left. Who needs that crap day after day after day, from people who resemble every negative remark made about him? He must have hit some raw nerves.

It's not really about being able to stand here and "take it". It's about taking one's valuable time to carry on a civil conversation with people who aren't going to say things like "licking your taint" when they don't agree with you. Who needs to feel like they need a bath after reading some of this crap? If I didn't know you guys pretty well in person, I wouldn't bother, either.

Carry on, I'm sure you can find some vitriol to direct my way, as well. Good night.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:34 PM
December 21, 2011 9:34 PM - DeadCatBounce
Happy Holidays Minard
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:34 PM
December 21, 2011 9:35 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"i remember in college, the way to an A was always just write a paper that included all the current buzzwords that the professors would repeat in lectures ad nauseum."

You mean like this?
"If, for a while, the ruse of desire is calculable for the uses of discipline soon the repetition of guilt, justification, pseudo-scientific theories, superstition, spurious authorities, and classifications can be seen as the desperate effort to “normalize” formally the disturbance of a discourse of splitting that violates the rational, enlightened claims of its enunciatory modality." - Homi Bhaba, The Location of Culture, 1994 (and he's a prof at harvard!)
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:35 PM
December 21, 2011 9:36 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I admit, humbly, that the lady posters here are my favorites. so? is that so bad?
Ditmas, Arkady, Montrose, Bx, Snappy, Donatella, RF. are sorta my favorities....
but wait, so is cgar (so witty) and of course Bhill (so competent) and legion...the other latino on the site...with whom I disagree politically but I think I understand the wellspring of those feelings.

well now EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY! welcome to Education in American 2012. Minard, keep your balls, you didnt have to add a bunch of second tierers, jeez!!!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 9:36 PM
December 21, 2011 9:36 PM - Legion
rf is very funny.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:36 PM
December 21, 2011 9:39 PM - Donatella
Ok, Minard, have a good trip to CA and thank you. Merry Christmas.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:39 PM
December 21, 2011 9:39 PM - Legion
You mean like this?
"If, for a while, the ruse of desire is calculable for the uses of discipline soon the repetition of guilt, justification, pseudo-scientific theories, superstition, spurious authorities, and classifications can be seen as the desperate effort to “normalize” formally the disturbance of a discourse of splitting that violates the rational, enlightened claims of its enunciatory modality." - Homi Bhaba, The Location of Culture, 1994 (and he's a prof at harvard!)"

If there's such a thing as tongue masturbation, that must be what it sounds like. ^^^^^^^
December 21, 2011 9:39 PM - DeadCatBounce
LOL Six. That guy should get a Nobel Prize in the "Pompous" category.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:39 PM
December 21, 2011 9:41 PM - Donatella
*rob* you are truly one of a kind.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:41 PM
December 21, 2011 9:41 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
It's about taking one's valuable time to carry on a civil conversation with people who aren't going to say things like "licking your taint" when they don't agree with you.

i disagree with that. we are a splinter of brownstoner who were not able to talk as we wish and thus massively banned (think a cyber holocaust) i like open dialogue, if you want to filter it, im going to say that is bad to say, but i dont subscribe to that. i like hearing differing opinions. even the nasty ones. so yeah, what i like about this site is that it ISNT a bunch of people in a giant taint licking circle. why is that a bad thing?

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 9:41 PM
December 21, 2011 9:43 PM - Legion
donatella,
back in Kansas, were you living near a lake?
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:43 PM
December 21, 2011 9:46 PM - Deleted
"I admit, humbly, that the lady posters here are my favorites. so? is that so bad?"

Minard;

I'll give you this much: when you blink your eye, you're clever.

That is not what you were trying to say above, was it Minard? Man up.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:46 PM
December 21, 2011 9:46 PM - DeadCatBounce
I remember when I was in college I took a Cinema Studies class. We had to read a book called "What is Cinema" by Andre Bazin. Best cure for Insomnia ever. One sentence and I was fast asleep. Bazin made a major contribution to medical science.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:46 PM
December 21, 2011 9:47 PM - Legion
...sorry, Missouri.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:47 PM
December 21, 2011 9:51 PM - Donatella
Legion, Japanese people have a kind of horror of open conflict, of arguing and getting things out in the open orvof fighting to clear the air. They do use alcohol for this though. There is a kind of rule that anything said under the influence is both listened to and forgiven. So if your boss is torturing you and you go out and get drunk with him and call him a jerk and cry in your beer and how oppressed you feel, the boss hears you and doesn't get mad and lays off. That is for insiders. Most of the cruelty is expressed toward people who are too independant and not on the team or different or scapegoats. The cruelty comes in when people are ignored to the point of pretending they don't exist. I saw one guy who was in charge of a project that went bad be ostrasized for months. The business decision was made collectively but he was in charge, so people did not talk to him, did not eat with him, did not write him memos, did not invite him out with everyone for drinks. That could kill a person. I used to be a Japanaphile but certain things changed me. I think I see things as they are now though, not as negative as my reactive phase.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:51 PM
December 21, 2011 9:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
"i remember in college, the way to an A was always just write a paper that included all the current buzzwords that the professors would repeat in lectures ad nauseum."

You mean like this?
"If, for a while, the ruse of desire is calculable for the uses of discipline soon the repetition of guilt, justification, pseudo-scientific theories, superstition, spurious authorities, and classifications can be seen as the desperate effort to “normalize” formally the disturbance of a discourse of splitting that violates the rational, enlightened claims of its enunciatory modality." - Homi Bhaba, The Location of Culture, 1994 (and he's a prof at harvard!)

what was that in? hmm. sorta, but not really. those mostly sound like real words (of course it's from 1994 so who knows they could be real words now) im talking about shit that professors make up and then the only way to get an A in the class is to repeat their made-up words and terms. it was so epidemic. there is a psychological word for it... imagine i taught a class and i used the word Poomist like 5000 times in one lecture and then i got two papers. one they didnt use the word and another where they used it. who will get the A and who will get the B+ (they'd get a C or D normally, but we all know how rampant grade inflation is in University these days) and they want to make it MORE rampant in high school. ooooof.

sometimes people dont realize what happens to kids who get D's and F's because they DESERVED D's and F's... they wind up carving an alternative way of life that leads them to success... or they COULD just get inflated B's and C's and wind up in colleges taking out thousands of dollars in student loans only to graduate and being enemployable because they are competing with too many other people and maybe they should have failed out at grade 9 when they got a 10 out of 100 on their algebra exam and been guided into something that could do us and them well. but that's okay, EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO A COLLEGE EDUCATION EVEN IF IT MEANS A YEARS TUITION IS 5X THE AMOUNT THAT YOUR PARENTS MAKE IN A YEAR THAT IS OKAY YOU CAN TAKE OUT LOANS AND PAY IT BACK LATER WE LOVE YOU AT THE BANKS WE WOULD NEVER GUIDE YOU WRONG WAIT WHAT? DONT WORRY YOU CAN TAKE OUT AN EMERGENCY LOAN AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY SEMESTER FOR UP TO 2500 DOLLARS (THAT'S 5000 DOLLARS A YEAR AND MORE IF YOU TAKE SUMMER CLASSES) AND DONT WORRY WE WONT DIRECTLY APPLY IT TO YOUR TUITION WE WILL ISSUE YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEMESTER JUST STAND IN LINE FOR A GIANT CHECK MORE MONEY THAN YOU OR YOUR PARENTS HAVE EVER SEEN IN YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING LIVES SHIT YOU NOT THIS MONEY IS FOR YOU YOU DESERVE IT YOU SMARTIE YOU JUST SIGN HERE ON THE DOTTED LINE DONT WORRY YOU WILL MAKE LOTS OF MONEY WHEN YOU GRADUATE AFTER ALL OF THIS LOOK AT MISS BEHIVE OVER THERE SHE IS 65 AND ABOUT TO RETIRE WITH A FULL PENSION AND LIFE IS SOOOOO SWELL SO DOT ON THE DAMN LINES ALREADY AND OH DONT WORRY THAT MY SWEAT JUST TURNED INTO STRIPED RED AND GREEN AND MY FINGERNAILS LOOK LIKE BLADES IM NOT FREDDY KREUGER IM YOURE FINANCIAL AID ADVISOR YOU PAY FOR MY PERMS AND MANICURES COME ON HONEY JUST SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE

*ROB*


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 9:51 PM
December 21, 2011 9:53 PM - Donatella
Oh, I guess I didn't make it clear Legion. I lived in my parents beach bungalow in Staten Island when I returned from Kansas City. No water in Kansas City unfortunately, just the muddy Missouri.
December 21, 2011 9:53 PM - bxgrl
Happy Holidays to you too Minard. We miss you.

And jeez some of you people need to stop being so goddam childish. Some of you act like minard personally beat the crap out of you. Maybe he just doesn't like dealing with children. As for NOP, legion. You're so wrong- you sounded like a jackass. You don't know the man and all he's ever done is talk about his love of Brooklyn. You must be so freaking jealous. And why? Your life isn't good enough?

And by the way- let's all get over brownstoner already. Fer crissakes. It's done- In all these months you can't figure out something else to whine about? I'm finished-have another vitriol fest on me.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:53 PM
December 21, 2011 9:55 PM - MontroseMorris
Rob, I'm not going to go into a battle (for the 9999th time) over why "we" were banned, as very few of the people who post on this OT are actually banned from posting on Brownstoner. In fact, I believe only two of you are. There's "open dialogue" and there's being a hateful, bitter jerk. One has nothing to do with the other.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:54 PM
December 21, 2011 9:58 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i wrote that last part intentionally with nothing with dots and lines and all CAPS for a reason that IS what the things most people sign off with borrowing in money see. im not saying they arent idiots to sign on the dotted line (DUH i was) but at the same time.... think about the war between those who want your money and those who are using other peoples money to give you money that they KNOW they might never get back. fuck them. i am paying back my student loans these days cuz it's nice seeing the amount go down, but part of me is like jesus this shit is out of control, just like housing costs. and i dont think my student loan amount is THAT bad cuz i loved taking summer classes for fun and loved the big refund checks every semester. i wouldnt be so happy trying to get thru 4 years these days where the cost is double what it cost just 10 years ago only to find jobs that really ARE not paying much more than minimum wage. i hate the term race to the bottom, but it is SO true.


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 9:58 PM
December 21, 2011 9:59 PM - Legion
Spare me bxgrl,
I call it like I read it.
NOP never once engaged or even attempted to engage in conversation save for his beloved liberal bretheren.
So you're the only one sounding like a jackass attempting to defend someone so insular.
Woopie dooo he's your friend.
So what!
At least I actually show up to events and have no qualms about talking to others and putting myself out there.

To tell you the truth, I didn't even think once about NOP until his post came up last week,
you know, the one that revealed him to be an anti-Christian bigot.
Edited at December 21, 2011 9:59 PM
December 21, 2011 10:00 PM - Donatella
ok, everyone, I am going to say goodnight on a positive note. I would like to share with you a personal success. I just opened a jar of peanut butter, so I am adapting. Off to have a pre-bedtime PBJ.

Have a good night!!!!
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:00 PM
December 21, 2011 10:00 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i wrote that last part intentionally with nothing with dots and lines and all CAPS for a reason that IS what the things most people sign off with borrowing in money see. im not saying they arent idiots to sign on the dotted line (DUH i was) but at the same time.... think about the war between those who want your money and those who are using other peoples money to give you money that they KNOW they might never get back. fuck them. i am paying back my student loans these days cuz it's nice seeing the amount go down, but part of me is like jesus this shit is out of control, just like housing costs. and i dont think my student loan amount is THAT bad cuz i loved taking summer classes for fun and loved the big refund checks every semester. i wouldnt be so happy trying to get thru 4 years these days where the cost is double what it cost just 10 years ago only to find jobs that really ARE not paying much more than minimum wage. i hate the term race to the bottom, but it is SO true.


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:00 PM
December 21, 2011 10:00 PM - Legion
Goodnight donatella. ;o)
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:00 PM
December 21, 2011 10:02 PM - rf
Rob, take a scroll up page 2 of the OT and count your posts!

Good night, losers!
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:02 PM
December 21, 2011 10:03 PM - bxgrl
ABoy legion- when you get delusional, you really get delusional. so now you're upset because you think NOP never engaged you in conversation? Now you're making the least political poster on brownstoner a political pundit? Oh please. Grow up. And no- I didn't see his post but I know him enough to know if you think he is an anti-Christian bigot, it's because you have seriously poor reading comprehension.
So ridiculous- you need to get on your meds again.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:02 PM
December 21, 2011 10:03 PM - Legion
goodnight rf. ;o)
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:03 PM
December 21, 2011 10:05 PM - MontroseMorris
Legion, NOP NEVER said anything that "revealed" he was an anti-Christian bigot. Never.

Since you know next to nothing about the man why don't you put a sock in it? So what he doesn't come to gatherings? I can reel off a list of about 20 people off the top of my head who have never met any of us at a gathering, and never will. And why would he, if he is talked about like a dog by you and several others, for only expressing his political opinion?



Edited at December 21, 2011 10:05 PM
December 21, 2011 10:05 PM - Legion
"ABoy legion- when you get delusional, you really get delusional. so now you're upset because you think NOP never engaged you in conversation? "

I couldn't care less personally.
When someone's aversion to opposing ideas is aparent however, as it was
recently brought up, then all past behavior is fair game.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:05 PM
December 21, 2011 10:07 PM - Legion
...and before you go on and on defending such behavior,
consider that there were quite a few people happily wringing their hands over there to learn that censorship of ideas was alive and well.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:07 PM
December 21, 2011 10:08 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Some of you act like minard personally beat the crap out of you. Maybe he just doesn't like dealing with children.

but we ARE NOT children, we are all adults. if anyone acted like a child, it was minard. that's not outlandish to say, duh. i find this one of the most adult websites i actually visit!


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:08 PM
December 21, 2011 10:09 PM - Legion
MM,
do we really have to bring up the famous post again where NOP is clearly stating his discomfort and disapproval of a proposal to have Christian churches involved in some charitable effort?
He even managed to say it was being put forth by a journal which was well known to be the (awful) redoubt of the right wing.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:09 PM
December 21, 2011 10:10 PM - MontroseMorris
Oh please. "Censorship of ideas?" HA!
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:10 PM
December 21, 2011 10:10 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
As for NOP, legion. You're so wrong- you sounded like a jackass. You don't know the man and all he's ever done is talk about his love of Brooklyn. You must be so freaking jealous. And why? Your life isn't good enough?

a 1-2-3 KNOCKOUT, Legion. :-/
you're a jackass
you're jealous
and youre life isn't good enough!

talk about childish sparring

*rob*

December 21, 2011 10:12 PM - Legion
MM and bxgrl,
I appreciate your defense of your friends with more delicate sensibilities over on brownnoser.com.
The truth is however, if you were to ask them personally, you know that they would have no interest in engaging in the types of intense and contrarian discussions to be found here and which were once found on brownstoner.com.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:12 PM
December 21, 2011 10:12 PM - MontroseMorris
"Famous post????" I remember it well. And he said no such thing.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:12 PM
December 21, 2011 10:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i TOLD you people OT After Dark is SO much better than the OT Morning Show!!! here's a scene from Big Brother After Dark where Danielle is just sitting in the hottub taking all the fighting in...

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:15 PM
December 21, 2011 10:16 PM - Legion
haha,
yes, I know bxgrl's sparring style well.
She goes right for the jugular,
I'm a jackass,
I'm jealous
and I'm on medications.

In five minutes, she's managed to attack me personally, assess my psychological motives and prescribe a cure.
All while telling me to stop talking ill of someone else!

bxgrl,
we have a job for you in the Obama campaign for 2012. ;o)
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:16 PM
December 21, 2011 10:16 PM - MontroseMorris
We do not have "intense and contrarian discussions", Legion. Real discussions bandy ideas around with give and take, point and counterpoint, and a degree of respect for the opposite side. We don't have that here, and I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to wallow around in the mud during these so-called "discussions".
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:16 PM
December 21, 2011 10:17 PM - Legion
lol
yes, OT after dark kicks ass!
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:17 PM
December 21, 2011 10:18 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
if only someone could somehow Facebook Julie Chen, aka, the Chenbot, AKA Host to CBS's Big Brother show, to come here and sort it all out for us...

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:18 PM
December 21, 2011 10:19 PM - Legion
MM,
I beg to differ,
we have plenty of discussions on all manner of topics.
You've been part of many of them.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:19 PM
December 21, 2011 10:21 PM - Deleted
"Real discussions bandy ideas around with give and take, point and counterpoint, and a degree of respect for the opposite side. We don't have that here, and I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to wallow around in the mud during these so-called "discussions".

Montrose;

Why are you disparaging the OT?
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:20 PM
December 21, 2011 10:22 PM - MontroseMorris
Legion, you need to work on reading comprehension. She said "you sounded like a jackass" she didn't call you a jackass. She said "you must be freaking jealous". If you took that to mean you ARE jealous, then that's on you, not her.

"bxgrl, we have a job for you in the Obama campaign for 2012. ;o)"

I'd say, why thank you. It's good to work for the winning side.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:22 PM
December 21, 2011 10:23 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
We do not have "intense and contrarian discussions"

i think we do. personally i try not to get involved with them tho, but i like to fly under the radar and shit.



*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:23 PM
December 21, 2011 10:23 PM - Legion
yeah Montrose,
why disparage our discussion and style of banter here on the OT just to assuage your feelings of displaced loyalty to certain posters on brownnoser.com?
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:23 PM
December 21, 2011 10:25 PM - lechacal
Opening Christmas presents is like being forced at gunpoint to eat a diarrhea sandwich with a big smile on your face.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:25 PM
December 21, 2011 10:26 PM - Legion
.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:26 PM
December 21, 2011 10:26 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
bandy

that sounds like the word myriad. :-/

that word isn't programmed into the Chenbot's vocabulary. :(


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:26 PM
December 21, 2011 10:27 PM - MontroseMorris
I'm not disparaging the OT ,benson, I'm disparaging the idea that legion is espousing that "delicate flowers" like Minard and NOP don't want to engage in the manly art of a political argument on the OT. Sounds like they are the sensible ones, because, as I said we don't have nuanced "discussions" about politics here. If you think we do, then your idea of what a true "discussion" is, and my idea of the same are very different.

Yeah, we can generally speak of other things in a relatively civilized manner. Most of us anyway.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:26 PM
December 21, 2011 10:28 PM - lechacal
So much cheap, meaningless, unnecessary shit is pumped into people's lives every Christmas. Christmas causes people to go broke and get depressed and jump on front of trains and stuff like that. Maybe 1 in 10 people actually gets a net benefit out of Christmas.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:28 PM
December 21, 2011 10:29 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
it's night like this i SERIOUSLY miss the Survivor SUCKS OT people!!!! no one would put up with this crap.



*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:29 PM
December 21, 2011 10:29 PM - Donatella
Ummm.......just had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on whole grain bread. delicious.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:29 PM
December 21, 2011 10:30 PM - lechacal
The difference between legion and minard is that legion is really smart.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:30 PM
December 21, 2011 10:31 PM - MontroseMorris
Legion, now you're starting to piss me off. I don't have "displaced feelings of loyalty" to people on "brownnoser". I have friends on Brownstoner, some of whom do not socialize with this bunch, but they are my friends, nonetheless. I also work for Brownstoner, and I enjoy it, and have a loyalty to the site for a number of reasons that are my own, and that I don't have to justify to anyone. I suggest you leave it alone now.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:31 PM
December 21, 2011 10:33 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
She said "you sounded like a jackass" she didn't call you a jackass

:-/ seriously, think about how idiotic that sounds for a second. now imagine how many times that lame excuse has been used many times over and over again. sorry, that does NOT work.


*rob*

December 21, 2011 10:33 PM - Legion
Montrose,
Remind me not to pick you to "have my back" in a life and death situation,
sounds like you'd have to check my ACLU status first!
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:33 PM
December 21, 2011 10:36 PM - MontroseMorris
Lech, I know you are like a can of gasoline at the side of the raging bonfire, but since you probably have never even met Minard in person, and don't know a thing about who he is, or even what he does for a living, kindly, and most respectfully STFU.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:36 PM
December 21, 2011 10:36 PM - Deleted
Legion is smart AND witty.
December 21, 2011 10:37 PM - Legion
Montrose,
You saw fit to take up the "cause" for posters running back and forth from brownstoner.com making statements to the effect that they wanted nothing to do with discordant views.
Minard said it himself a few months ago and NOP did by his behavior and stated views against conservative ideas.
Don't try to frame this argument as an attack I initiated out of nowhere.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:37 PM
December 21, 2011 10:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
as I said we don't have nuanced "discussions" about politics here. If you think we do, then your idea of what a true "discussion" is, and my idea of the same are very different.

but that is 100% flat out NOT TRUE!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:38 PM
December 21, 2011 10:38 PM - Legion
awww,
group hug everyone!
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:38 PM
December 21, 2011 10:41 PM - Deleted
You know what's pissed me off?!?!? Minard the fuddy-duddy interupted the regularly scheduled programming of "OT after dark"!!!!!!!!
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:41 PM
December 21, 2011 10:42 PM - MontroseMorris
"Montrose, Remind me not to pick you to "have my back" in a life and death situation,
sounds like you'd have to check my ACLU status first!"

Legion, just goes to show how little you know me, and how badly you misjudge people. Your loss.


Edited at December 21, 2011 10:42 PM
December 21, 2011 10:42 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
and wtf does "nuanced" mean? :-/

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:42 PM
December 21, 2011 10:44 PM - Donatella
Lech: Christmas causes people to go broke and get depressed and jump on front of trains and stuff like that.

I would never jump in front of a train because I am sure I would live but just have to wear more casts.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:43 PM
December 21, 2011 10:45 PM - Legion
awww just give me an e-hug MM.

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:45 PM
December 21, 2011 10:45 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
You know what's pissed me off?!?!? Minard the fuddy-duddy interupted the regularly scheduled programming of "OT after dark"!!!!!!!!

lol.. not really. do you know what a psychic batsignal cyberslap is?

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:45 PM
December 21, 2011 10:46 PM - MontroseMorris
Legion, the fact that you insist on making this some kind of "attack" on you shows more about you, and your issues, than me, or Minard and NOP.

This is a friggin chat room, not NATO, or the United Federation of Planets. If someone doesn't want to play, so what?
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:46 PM
December 21, 2011 10:49 PM - Legion
"and wtf does "nuanced" mean? :-/"

nuanced is when somebody farts in an elevator and points to the person still there
as they step off into the awaiting crowd.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:49 PM
December 21, 2011 10:50 PM - MontroseMorris
What is that? A wombat?
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:50 PM
December 21, 2011 10:50 PM - Legion
what are you talking about MM,
I'm trying to give you a holiday hug and you're all about arguing with me.

well aren't you the meanie! :o(
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:50 PM
December 21, 2011 10:52 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
This is a friggin chat room

er, as someone who has been on the internet since 1991, this is NOT a "chat room" im not throwing my WWW status out there, but really, i do wonder why some people thing this is a knitting circle more than what it is. and what it IS i feel is way better than a knitting circle. there's real life stuff for that you know? i like seeing people arguing their opinions in real life, not a big giant kum ba yah circle, cuz well, in real life, it's hard to get your opinions out there to a diverse group of people. why not embrace what this is for what it is instead of turning it into a place where people are vilified for having differing opinions? which is what i see a lot of , which is why blogs like brownstoner are mad boring.


*rob*
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:52 PM
December 21, 2011 10:53 PM - MontroseMorris
Does this make you feel better?

(((Legion)))

G'nite. Will resume kicking your butt at another time.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:53 PM
December 21, 2011 10:55 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i give scott kudos, he hasnt banned anyone or censors anyone, (that i know of). that is kinda cool. deny it if you want, but do you REALLY want an internet where you can only go to sites with people with your same opinions on life? basic down, i mean really down, we all DO have the same opinions on life, but whatever, let the dust fly people, it's the fucking internet, not lindsay lohan's walk in closet. cheeze-itz!


*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:55 PM
December 21, 2011 10:55 PM - Deleted
Rob's 10.52 hits the bullseye. We have a diverse group of people here from all walks of life who speak their mind. Hard to find that in real life.

The OT is great.
Edited at December 21, 2011 10:55 PM
December 21, 2011 10:59 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
G'nite. Will resume kicking your butt at another time.

LMFAO. AKA, im tired (um it's not even 11pm yet) and i can't come back with something witty and disparaging to say about the things you believe in.

*hugs*, MM, hope you have an awesome christmas and happy new year even tho we fight on this board. you do realise fighting on the internet keeps people living and adds, i'd say, 4-5 years to their lives?!

dont fight it, embrace

think about how you wound up here.. and why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 10:59 PM
December 21, 2011 11:00 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
and that was NOT a moonface video, that was totally authentic!!!!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 11:00 PM
December 21, 2011 11:11 PM - lechacal
Actually benson I don't really speak my mind. I probably only say about 10% of the mean things I think. If I really spoke my mind I would probably be banned like the what.
Edited at December 21, 2011 11:11 PM
December 21, 2011 11:13 PM - lechacal
Civilization is basically just people not acting on their impulses, voluntarily or involuntarily.
Edited at December 21, 2011 11:13 PM
December 21, 2011 11:16 PM - lechacal
I estimate that if I acted on all of my impulses I would get kicked off of the OT almost instantly and end up in jail within a day.
Edited at December 21, 2011 11:16 PM
December 21, 2011 11:23 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Rob's 10.52 hits the bullseye. We have a diverse group of people here from all walks of life who speak their mind. Hard to find that in real life.

The OT is great.

thanks! seriously, if i wanted to deal with ridiculous rules about how im SUPPOSED to behave in a controlled environment i'd joint the park slope food co-op. but i dont. i buy my food at Associated Supermarket. i bet the co-op doenst ring balloons and then hand you 50 bux for being part of an experiment, i bet the co-op doesnt have hot cashiers that will make u wait a few seconds while they text (whoever they are texting, and honestly, i dont care cuz they are SOOOOOOOOOOO nice), and i bet the prices dont beat associated even tho people wanna lie and say they do. like people lie and say >ssHoleFoods somehow "adds' something to the neighborhood when it totally does nothing but bring a bunch of annoying moonfaces in who drive up the prives of EVERYTHING! you cant deny it's true on a macro level and then deny it on a mirco level, dont be hypocrites. good for owners, bad for renters, but guess what NYC? you are driving the best renters out these days doing this paradigm. good luck bitches, where everyone lives in a slave-like atmosphere where people are like OMG im NOT racist, it's about money and not skin color. whatever, racists. you can smell the manure and dung a mile away. people love their cheap labor and will do whatever it means to keep it in place. BARF!



*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 11:23 PM
December 21, 2011 11:27 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I don't really speak my mind. I probably only say about 10%

oh shut the fuck up with that. 10 percent? bitch please, you sound like a fruit juice company from the 80s.

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 11:27 PM
December 21, 2011 11:29 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I estimate that if I acted on all of my impulses I would get kicked off of the OT

DO IT DO IT DO IT!!!! id SO be behind you as long as you were not doing it JUST to do it. i've been getting kicked off the internet since 1991!

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 11:29 PM
December 21, 2011 11:35 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
how did i get kicked off the internet in 1991? oh that was on prodigy when i 14 and my grandparents had to have the account under their name... some crazy woman (who was like 50) in the poetry forum said i was sending her sexually expicit poems against her will. i. was. NOT. she was in fact sending them to me and i was totally grossed out so i started sending them to people who were in that forum and was like omg what is up with her? i got no response, then a week later my account was taken off line my password didnt work and my grandmother got a letter saying i was taken off Prodigy for reasons... blah blah blah

i was a 14 year old victim of some dumb woman using legal ways to get me kicked off prodigy. wtf? that's how i look at the internet these days... too many people butting in. it's supposed to be a free for all. if you dont like it, dont go on. i mean do you all complain about the gazillion free and open porno vid sites? (damn i WISH i had those back in the day!!!!). grrrrrrrrrrrrr tho maybe a good thing i would never have gotten any studying done, but seriously people here, dont knock and try to squelch peoples opinions, i like it here, as do i think many others, that they can say what they want and i dont think anyone REALLY crosses the line.

*rob*

Edited at December 21, 2011 11:35 PM
December 22, 2011 12:08 AM - Legion
When I go south, and I sort of consider Florida part of the south even though its history is more Hispanic/tropical, I don't like dealing with all the smiling and gladhanding.
Edited at December 22, 2011 12:08 AM
December 22, 2011 12:11 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
What a bunch of schmucks you ***guys*** can be. Seriously, I can't believe I actually spend time with you. Shame on me.
Edited at December 22, 2011 12:11 AM
December 22, 2011 12:24 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
What a bunch of schmucks you ***guys*** can be. Seriously, I can't believe I actually spend time with you. Shame on me.

that is a lame response and you KNOW it. fight back with something substanbtive. i KNOW you have it in you. i dont even know what a smuck IS. does it just mean someone who likes to bring up sour subjects cuz it's important? or not important at all? if nothing is important in life than why not just sit in a giant circle, all silent, and pray to the gods above and hope that someone fills our cups of tea, brings us christmas presents from people that dont like us, and wish on a shining star that true love will come into our lives? welcome to the the real world! it SUCKS! some of us didnt grow up pampered so now that when we see we dont HAVE any pampers that are free we done really whine about it.

*rob*

December 22, 2011 12:28 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
besides i know for a FACT i can make better Pampers than the "government" could ever make and im not one of those people who expect it to wipe my ass when i shit.

if i shit, i shit. ill wipe it up on my own. i dont want other people who arent sitting around shitting themselves to care for me to sit around shitting myself, you know what i mean?


*rob*

Edited at December 22, 2011 12:28 AM
December 22, 2011 12:31 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
foodstamps, section 8, welfare for as many babies as you can put out IS waiting around expecting people to clean up YOUR shit. i dont work that way. if it gets to point where im sitting around shitting myself (which is the same thing as having babies you cant afford) then i WILL just off myself and not put my burden on other people. weird how so many people dont work that way.

*rob*

Edited at December 22, 2011 12:31 AM
December 22, 2011 1:32 AM - sixyearsandcounting
Just catching up here...
"10 percent? bitch please, you sound like a fruit juice company from the 80s"

that's one of the more creative insults i've heard in awhile
Edited at December 22, 2011 1:32 AM
December 22, 2011 7:32 AM - Arkady
Schmuck is Yiddish for prick.
And, rob, did you see that smoking's being banned in Section 8 housing?
Edited at December 22, 2011 7:32 AM