Thursday Open Thread
August 18, 2011 8:03 AM - admin

518 comments
August 18, 2011 8:05 AM - BoerumHillScott
Ug, another day of waking up and going directly into work crisis mode.

At least I will be on vacation starting tomorrow.
#1
August 18, 2011 8:28 AM - dibs
BHS, how could there ever be a crisis where you work???????!!!!!!!!!
Edited at August 18, 2011 8:28 AM
#2
August 18, 2011 8:31 AM - Deleted
half day for me today - just need to get thru 10:30 meeting - oooof
#3
August 18, 2011 8:32 AM - dibs
I always put in a full day's work
#4
August 18, 2011 8:33 AM - Deleted
that's cute you name your toy "full days work"
#5
August 18, 2011 8:35 AM - BoerumHillScott
Any gathering of 2 or more people can find a way to create a crisis, and in my current little region of the corporate landscape, there are several factors that lead to the "crisis of the week" syndrome.

None of these are actual crises that impact the corporation in any meaningful way, but they do the have the potential to impact my job and the jobs of others.

We do occasionally get "real" crises which are usually driven by technology issues and have the ability to disrupt business activities or create regulatory/contract violations.
Edited at August 18, 2011 8:35 AM
#6
August 18, 2011 8:36 AM - Deleted
those smucker's sponsored old birthdays on the today show are sad

'here we have joe jones, he's 104 today and he enjoys doing his own grocery shopping and eating taco bell!!"


I'm holding out a few more decades for dibs'

"here we have dave _______. he still enjoys having sex with 25 year old asian bodybuilders and eatings $1 oysters"
#7
August 18, 2011 8:40 AM - boerumresident
Was there any obvious reason why yesterday's OT would have been blocked by corporate firewalls -- I think the listed reason was adult content, but I don't know for sure?

And good morning to everyone...
Edited at August 18, 2011 8:40 AM
#8
August 18, 2011 8:41 AM - dibs
That was actually funny, dh.


Here we have rob_____. He's 102 today and never thought he'd live that long. He enjoys setting up his own stoop sale and is still able to beanbag
#9
August 18, 2011 8:45 AM - dibs
So Obama is going to have a jobs program after Labor Day!!!!!!!

What a jackass for announcing it this way. He's getting a lot of kickback in his town visits. Got to be one of the worst advised political announcements in the history of the Presidency.

First he has to go on vacation in Nantucket. Talk about an elitist
#10
August 18, 2011 8:46 AM - petebklyn
adult content? no way. all childish gibber.
#11
August 18, 2011 8:47 AM - dibs
Pete's more worried about adult incontinence than content.
#12
August 18, 2011 8:48 AM - boerumresident
That's the usual, but something kicked in the blocking software. C'est la vie
#13
August 18, 2011 8:49 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
mornin' losers :-)
#14
August 18, 2011 8:49 AM - dibs
No comments showing up over on brownstoner for any of y'days threads!!!!!!!!
#15
August 18, 2011 8:49 AM - BoerumHillScott
boerumresident,
Some firewalls/content blocking systems dynamically scan each page and try to make a decision if it is "bad" or not.
Too much dirty language or specific phrases, and the page will get flagged "adult"

Due to the fact some some individual pages here are getting blocked the day they are created, I am guessing you are behind one of those.

In comparison, the majority of firewalls/content blocking systems have static lists of known "bad" sites, usually put into a bunch of different categories.

A small number of environments layer on top of their firewall systems additional prohibitions on technologies such as flash or javascript.
Edited at August 18, 2011 8:49 AM
#16
August 18, 2011 8:51 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Hopefully he won't attend any weeny roasts while in the vineyard!
#17
August 18, 2011 8:53 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
am i the only one loving this rain? of course i'd rather be listening to it's pitter patter from my bed, but, i'll take what i can get.
#18
August 18, 2011 8:56 AM - BoerumHillScott
I'm glad we are getting a healthy amount of rain after last summer being so dry.

I do hope it goes away for most of next week, when my mom and step dad are in town.
#19
August 18, 2011 8:57 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Good morning, all. DIBS: I thought the president is vacationing in Martha's Vineyard....meh, Nantucket...Martha's Vineyard...I guess the percentage of "elitists" is the same, though the Vineyard has two exclusive old-money Afro-Saxon communities, whereas Nantucket's summer colony is paler than a stale piece of Wonder bread.
#20
August 18, 2011 8:57 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
hmmm...yes, rain is no good when trying to entertain guests. keeps you cooped up in the house.
#21
August 18, 2011 8:59 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Maybe when Rick Perry prays for rain in Texas it rains more in New York. He should try coming to New York to pray for rain and see if it rains back in Texas.
#22
August 18, 2011 8:59 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: love the rain just not inside the house!
#23
August 18, 2011 8:59 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
rick perry prays for rain? seriously? like on your knees "dear God" kinda praying?
#24
August 18, 2011 9:00 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
What is Brownstoner? Oh, yeah...I forgot.
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:00 AM
#25
August 18, 2011 9:00 AM - bxgrl
I've been having fun the last 2 days. My first husband and his wife came to visit- they're so much fun. they live in Arkansas. We reconnected on Facebook.
#26
August 18, 2011 9:01 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Snappy: During the last drought in Texas(they have another one going on now), Governor Perry publicly prayed for God to make it rain. Within a week after that prayer, the drought had engulfed three times more of Texas.
#27
August 18, 2011 9:02 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
people from highschool are starting to find me on facebook. ugh. i think i may be the only person on facebook who doesn't want a lot of fb friends!
#28
August 18, 2011 9:03 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
rofl! i guess then he should pray for a drought!
#29
August 18, 2011 9:03 AM - wendybear1
Good morning, PLUSAs! I'm glad I took the munchkin to the beach yesterday, since it's raining again today. Now to get over the massive areas of sunburn all over. I should not have gone at 11 am.

How is everyone?
#30
August 18, 2011 9:04 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
I have never joined Facebook. The level of hostility I face over that decision is an added perk.
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:04 AM
#31
August 18, 2011 9:04 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
sunburn? ouch! what beach did you go to Wendy?
#32
August 18, 2011 9:05 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
my aunt pestered me until i joined fb. i held out for as long as i could!
#33
August 18, 2011 9:06 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Good morning, Wendybear. I like going to the beach in the rain. No crowds. Besides, I am so white that I can get a sunburn by sitting within three feet of a lit candle.
#34
August 18, 2011 9:07 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
tha'ts pretty damned white! i was blessed with a permanent tan :-)
#35
August 18, 2011 9:08 AM - wendybear1
Snaps, we just went to Coney Island... beach, ice cream, Nathan's (cheap with online coupons), then home. It was a great time.
#36
August 18, 2011 9:08 AM - dibs
I think I have figured out who the What really is.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-McpNtHet3w

Turn the volume down if you're at the office!!!!!!!!!


Edited at August 18, 2011 9:08 AM
#37
August 18, 2011 9:08 AM - bxgrl
I use it mostly for business and only a few personal connections ,as you know ;)
But reconnecting with my first ex was great and I love his wife. turns out we have the same birthdate and we're both left-handed so we are now calling each other sister-wife. They both met MM and love her. He was a rocket scientist (really!).
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:08 AM
#38
August 18, 2011 9:09 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
The other night I had dinner with some friends I haven't seen in ages. They photograph EVERYTHING and post it on Facebook as it happens. Each time the waiter brought a course, they turned on the flashlight app on their iPhones to properly light the dish, photograph it and then post it BEFORE they ate. I really don't know what the world is coming to...
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:09 AM
#39
August 18, 2011 9:11 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
oh dear...sounds like your friends have facebookitis. or maybe the proper way to say it is that they are facebookophiles? :-)

bxgirl, a rocket scientist? wowzer!

wendy...take me with you! i'd rather be at a beach than in an office!
#40
August 18, 2011 9:12 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
That's nice, Wendy. It is nice to hear that people still go to Coney Island even though Mr. B. claims no one goes there because the hipsters don't like it. According to him, urban blight and desolation come about when hipsters declare a neighborhood "over."
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:12 AM
#41
August 18, 2011 9:12 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "The Benz Burners Arrive: Protests Come To Germany As Arsonists Burn Down "Fat Cat" Cars"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/benz-burners-arrive-protests-come-germany-arsonists-burn-down-fat-cat-cars

"A special unit is investigating the fires as political crimes after the police received letters claiming responsibility that derided globalization, gentrification and rising rents, he said."

I'm done...

The What

I love the smell of napalm in the morning..
#42
August 18, 2011 9:13 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: BHI, were they Filipino????? Filipinos do that but I've seen normal people doing it too.

It's ridiculopus, embarrassing and annoying
#43
August 18, 2011 9:14 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
I don't deny anyone else their pleasure, but I don't see the need to join. I use my alumni database to connect with anyone from the past. FB just seems like a candy-coated domestic spying program and profound time waster. I have enough time wasters in my life as it is(waves to the OT).
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:14 AM
#44
August 18, 2011 9:15 AM - bxgrl
Hi, BHI-wondered what happened to you and glad o see you back.

I hate FB, but it is useful for some things. I will never get into the whole "Niiiite alll. I'm off to take a shower and beddy-bye" thing.
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:15 AM
#45
August 18, 2011 9:15 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Test

getting logged out after I cleared cache
#46
August 18, 2011 9:16 AM - BoerumHillScott
I can't comment much on facebookitis, because I think I'm married to an addict.
#47
August 18, 2011 9:16 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: BHS...getting logged out after each post

Just cleared cahe

Whats' up????
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:16 AM
#48
August 18, 2011 9:17 AM - bxgrl
Post what they eat to FB? Ugh.
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:17 AM
#49
August 18, 2011 9:17 AM - More4Less
DIBS, it looks like a nasty ride today for the mkt
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:17 AM
#50
August 18, 2011 9:18 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: test
#51
August 18, 2011 9:19 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
No, they were not Fillipinos. Just a gaggle of under-employed WASPy trust-fund babies who have decided that reaching the age of 30 gives them the right to lose their minds and assume everyone finds everything the do utterly fascinating. They are the sort of people who use the word "epic" as an adjective far too often. i.e.:"These organic micro-greens we bought in the Berkshires are epic!"
#52
August 18, 2011 9:19 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: test
#53
August 18, 2011 9:19 AM - More4Less
anon, get an ID and avatar b4 you're booted
#54
August 18, 2011 9:20 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Good morning, bxgrl.
#55
August 18, 2011 9:22 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
The Verizon strikers were all over Brooklyn Heights this morning, blowing whistles and annoying everyone. Based on what the men looked like, at first I thought it was a march for "Male Breast Cancer Awareness Day." Seriously, guys, don't wear tight poly-blend polo shirts if you have man boobs. Or, if you must wear them, invest in some Spanx undershirts.
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:22 AM
#56
August 18, 2011 9:23 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: M4L there are different anons the one who posted is having trouble logging in.
#57
August 18, 2011 9:24 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: BHS....HELP!!!!!!!


I keep getting logged out here after every post or view!!!!!
#58
August 18, 2011 9:24 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
i have to deal (and usually handle) a new crises pretty much everyday too. this week (well for the last 3 weeks it's the server room's AC) . before the server room ac crisis we had FOUR shipments of water bottles from poland spring ALL with leaky caps!!

*rob*
#59
August 18, 2011 9:26 AM - BoerumHillScott
I just tested clearing my cache, and that did not cause a log-out.
The only thing that I have been able to do to force a logout is deleting the site session cookie.

Can you try on a different browser and see if the problem is still there?
Is this on a corporate system?
#60
August 18, 2011 9:28 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: We don't have a corporate system here

I deleted cache, cookies, etc and now this is the only site that keeps logging me out

DIBS
#61
August 18, 2011 9:28 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
snappy are you one of my facebook friends? want to be? warning: my page is messy

*rob*

Edited at August 18, 2011 9:28 AM
#62
August 18, 2011 9:28 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: And it is set back on "Preserve favorite website data"
#63
August 18, 2011 9:30 AM - dibs
test
#64
August 18, 2011 9:30 AM - dibs
OK...back working
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:30 AM
#65
August 18, 2011 9:33 AM - wendybear1
BHS: poo on you! I like to keep up with friends.
#66
August 18, 2011 9:33 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
the only thing i dont like about facebook is that people seem to only brag about the good things in their life. i wanna hear the bad shit. people filter their comments too much on there. i dont wanna hear about your new baby, i wanna hear about catching your husband with a prostitute!!! that kinda thing.

*rob*

#67
August 18, 2011 9:34 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
facebook is also good with keeping tabs on your frenemies.

*rob*

#68
August 18, 2011 9:35 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
I have been on a conference call about Euribor-OIS swap levels for two hours. If the other people on the call are six hours ahead of New York, is it o.k. for me to start drinking?
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:34 AM
#69
August 18, 2011 9:35 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
i had a Raven moment a while back that a tornado is gonna whisk away that fugly janes carousel into the atlantic ocean in september.

*rob*

#70
August 18, 2011 9:36 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Don't forget about the people who had their house robbed by "friends" when they posted that they were going to a concert that night on fb
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:36 AM
#71
August 18, 2011 9:39 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
I like the carousel.
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:39 AM
#72
August 18, 2011 9:39 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: BHI sounds like a plan ;)
#73
August 18, 2011 9:39 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "I have been on a conference call about Euribor-OIS swap levels for two hours."

I thought you did something regarding charitable giving for the firm.
#74
August 18, 2011 9:39 AM - petebklyn
you read about the german politico (head of one of their parties) who resigns after meeting 16 y.o. girl on FB.
Seems public more annoyed on what it viewed as too much time on FB -- not the sex with 16 y.o.
(the guy is 40)
#75
August 18, 2011 9:40 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Just again logged out. This is getting really annoying
#76
August 18, 2011 9:40 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: and again
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:40 AM
#77
August 18, 2011 9:41 AM - DeLepp
"Euribor-OIS swap levels for two hours." yes drinking is acceptable now.

Swimming in the rain is delightful, did it Sunday and Monday, saves me money on sunscreen.
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:41 AM
#78
August 18, 2011 9:43 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
I was promoted last week. I have a "real" job now. The best part of going from giving away the company's money to bringing it in is an office with a view AND a terrace. I suppose the terrace is part of our health plan...if things really tank, exit stage right and jump.
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:43 AM
#79
August 18, 2011 9:43 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I like the carousel.

shocking! not. youre rich! rich people seem love tacky shit like that. im sorry but that carousel is a fugly eye sore and the whole thing is a metaphor for class warfare in this city.

*rob*

#80
August 18, 2011 9:44 AM - BoerumHillScott
dibs, can you try a different browser?
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:44 AM
#81
August 18, 2011 9:44 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
In my experience, Germans don't care how freaky you are as long as you are efficient and well-organized.
#82
August 18, 2011 9:45 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Planning furniture?
sounds perfect for sunset cocktails!
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:45 AM
#83
August 18, 2011 9:49 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Rob, I work on Wall Street. You have to be a billionaire to be considered "rich." In this environment, millionaires consider themselves "middle-class/small business/job creators." I like the carousel because the design is simple. I was worried that Rem Koolhaas would get the job and we would be cursed with one of his impractical LSD Lego designs that have points going in all directions and in winter shoot sheets of ice down to the street and kill pedestrians.
#84
August 18, 2011 9:50 AM - BoerumHillScott
OK dibs, I manually went into the database and logged off all your sessions form your current computer.
This should let you start with a clean slate from a logging in perspective.

#85
August 18, 2011 9:55 AM - BoerumHillScott
You would see a lot more negative posts on facebook if it easily let you be more selective about who your audience is.
Hopefully they will steal this idea from Google Plus soon.
#86
August 18, 2011 9:55 AM - dibs
test
#87
August 18, 2011 9:55 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: test
#88
August 18, 2011 9:55 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: test

logged out already
#89
August 18, 2011 9:56 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: test
#90
August 18, 2011 9:56 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: FUCK
#91
August 18, 2011 9:58 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
dave, if you are using internet explorer, look at the top of the window. next to the refresh button should be an icon that looks like a torn piece of paper. it's 'compatibility view.' click that then try logging in and posting.
#92
August 18, 2011 10:04 AM - dibs
On firefox
#93
August 18, 2011 10:05 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: but not working on IE

WTF?????
#94
August 18, 2011 10:06 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ie sucks. that's why
Edited at August 18, 2011 10:06 AM
#95
August 18, 2011 10:09 AM - dibs
It's been fine since this site opened.
Edited at August 18, 2011 10:09 AM
#96
August 18, 2011 10:09 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Breaking!!!
PHILLY FED CATASTROPHE: -30.7 On Expectations of +2.0
FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!!
Hey where's Fucked in Bed Stuy!
Treasuries are rallying asshole!

The What

I love the smell of napalm in the morning..
#97
August 18, 2011 10:10 AM - Arkady
I'm fine on IE.
GM, all.
Snappy - You had 8 inches of rain over the weekend - that should suffice. Let us have our sunshine back. It's hot & muggy so it may as well be sunny too.
#98
August 18, 2011 10:11 AM - bxgrl
You had the same problem on b'stoner too- kept logging you out.l Must be something in one of your security settings.
#99
August 18, 2011 10:17 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: The Beach worked fine, never any problems!
I know ya'll hate me but just listen one time. Drupal is horrible for forum content.
The Market is in a shit storm!

The What

I love the smell of napalm in the morning
Edited at August 18, 2011 10:17 AM
August 18, 2011 10:19 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Ten year under 2.00%
DIVE DIVE DIVE!!!!

The What

NAPALM!!!!
August 18, 2011 10:24 AM - Donatella
G'Morning losers....Wendy, super-whitey "cure" for sunburn. First, take aspirin. Second, tepid bath to cool your skin. Then
aloe gel. Then go out and buy 85 sun block "shroud in a bottle", then buy a cheapie beach umbrella. Then vow to use them and to limit your time 12-3. But you knew that. I am white. One of my sisters is pink with green freckles. You gotta be careful. And if Won Ton is around, I never went to a specialty capybara (also called carpincho in Argentina) shop in Buenos Aires, but they sell the bags and leather goods all over. It has this beautiful cognac color and they do Hermes knockoffs -- a la Kelly bags and birkins in that leather and it is amazing. Well, back to work at my new really hard job. Have a good day losers.....
August 18, 2011 10:24 AM - WonTon
GM all. Day 3 of no Internet. Hoping UPS guy arrives soon with the Clear 4G package. And that it works.
Edited at August 18, 2011 10:24 AM
August 18, 2011 10:25 AM - wendybear1
Thanks, Donatella. Yes, I know all that. I used sunscreen, but it must have washed off in the water.
August 18, 2011 10:27 AM - dibs
Well then how are you posting if you have no internet, wonton???????
August 18, 2011 10:29 AM - WonTon
Hey D GMorning. My Carpincho gloves are bright red. At this BA store they also sell the leather in many colors: purple, forest green, sapphire.

Love the way the leather is filled with little dot points from the fir. Looks like ostrich.
August 18, 2011 10:30 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
Hey Donna!!!!

*rob*

August 18, 2011 10:30 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Hiya Dave..
Can we say all this bullshit has failed..
Can we say the Mutant Asset Bubble is over?
Mmmmmmuuuuuaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!
*Kisses*

The What

I love the smell of napalm in the morning!!!
August 18, 2011 10:31 AM - WonTon
Dave, I'm at a coffee shop in PS with free wifi. But I find it impossible to do work surrounded by dogs and strollers.
August 18, 2011 10:32 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Holy Fuck do you see this???
The Market is in freefall!!!!!
WOW!!!!!


The What

Where's everyone??????

*Muah*
Edited at August 18, 2011 10:32 AM
August 18, 2011 10:33 AM - Donatella
Wendy, have you ever tried spray on stuff? It is good for kids too who are constantly in and out of the water. The water also is reflective so it makes it worse..... I hope you feel better. And just wanted to say.....I love Coney Island (and Brighton Beach). I am so relieved to hear that it has not gotten the hipster/Jon B stamp of approval. So happy. I am really back to my job now......Have a good day all...
August 18, 2011 10:33 AM - rf
Now, where is that "ignore" button?
August 18, 2011 10:34 AM - Donatella
You are right Wonton. They do die the leather other colors but the most popular is that cognac color. Yeah, I love those dots too.... Now I am really really gone. Bye good day!!!
August 18, 2011 10:36 AM - dibs
What, you're nothing more than a bad reporter after the fact, a talking head at best.
What's your retirement plan?????


August 18, 2011 10:40 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "What, you're nothing more than a bad reporter after the fact, a talking head at best.
What's your retirement plan?????"

ROTFLMMFAO!!!!

Is that all you got??!!!

Your retirement is blown to fucking bits!!

Put your house on the market now asshole, I fucking dare ya!!!!

You know the steel Dildo is coming for ya!

Funny a few years ago the retards couldn't shut up about Real Estate and now no one want to talk about it!!!

Funny how that happens..

Nighty nite asshole...

The What

I love the smell of napalm in the morning!!!
August 18, 2011 10:42 AM - dibs
My retirement funds are fine. They are all still paying the same dividends and I won't have to spend any capital to live quite nicely, thank you.
Edited at August 18, 2011 10:42 AM
August 18, 2011 10:42 AM - dibs
This is not a real estate blog, dumbass.
August 18, 2011 10:43 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Hey Fucked in bed stuy!

Have at it...

http://www.philadelphiafed.org/research-and-data/regional-economy/business-outlook-survey/2011/bos0811.cfm


According to respondents to the August Business Outlook Survey, the region’s manufacturing sector is much weaker this month. The survey’s indicators suggest a decline in demand for manufactured goods, and shipments and employment were also in decline. Price measures suggest continued moderation in price pressures, and more firms reported price declines for their manufactured goods this month. The broadest indicators for growth over the next six months, including employment, fell back notably this month but remain slightly favorable to expansion.


Mmmmmmuuuuaaaahhhhhhhhh!

The What

I love this shit!!!
August 18, 2011 10:45 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: My retirement funds are fine. They are all still paying the same dividends and I won't have to spend any capital to live quite nicely, thank you.

My retirement funds was fine. They are all still paying the same dividends for this quarter and I won't have any capital to spend and I will die quite nicely, thank you.

Here fix it for you!

The What

NEXT!!!!
August 18, 2011 10:51 AM - dibs
you haven't got a clue, what, do you???
August 18, 2011 10:52 AM - wendybear1
Yeah, Donatella, I used the spray on stuff. I didn't reapply, though, so both the boy and I are burned.
Edited at August 18, 2011 10:52 AM
August 18, 2011 10:52 AM - Arkady
The housing bubble pix is cute.
Edited at August 18, 2011 10:52 AM
August 18, 2011 10:54 AM - bxgrl
Off his meds again.
Edited at August 18, 2011 10:54 AM
August 18, 2011 10:56 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "you haven't got a clue, what, do you???"

Thanks Dave, you response is piss poor and without any merit.
The whole world is collapsing right in your face, right here right now.
Good luck walking thru Bed Stuy with your "Wealth"!!!
You better panic now Asshole before it's too late!
You're fucked Asshole and I'm happy as hell!
I've waited to this shit to happen and the day of reckoning is here and there's nothing you can do about.
PWNED!!!!!

The What
I love the smell of napalm in the morning!
Edited at August 18, 2011 10:56 AM
August 18, 2011 10:58 AM - dibs
Seems the only one panicking is YOU!!!!


ROTFLMMFAO


August 18, 2011 10:58 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "Off his meds again."
No Bxgrl the Mutant Asset Bubble is over done and fininshed!
I vary happy and I'm enjoying the crash..
How are you doing today, fine I hope!

The What

I love the smell of napalm in the morning..
August 18, 2011 10:58 AM - DeadCatBounce
You are being unfair to Mr. What. He is having a good day, today. Congrats, What.

Options expire this week, so if I see a rebound coming, I am going long the Aug calls.
August 18, 2011 11:00 AM - dibs
And yet we are nowhere near the recent low or the 2009 low!!!!!!


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August 18, 2011 11:02 AM - DeLepp
REPOTD:
http://tinyurl.com/3z6nel8

This was down the street where I was staying. Across from beach(no beachfront property in town). Town is 1/4th mile long and 2 miles wide. Mostly marshes.

Sold above ask.
August 18, 2011 11:03 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "Options expire this week, so if I see a rebound coming, I am going long the Aug calls."
I don't know DCB, I think Bernanke is not going Full Retard! The DXY is at 73.00 I think and if the announce QE 3
at Jackson Hole the whole think implodes right there! You can see 1.50% on the Ten Year and 3000.00 Oz gold price!

I think you should go flat and wait, you can get blown to bits with your profolio .

The What

I love the smell of napalm in the morning!
Edited at August 18, 2011 11:03 AM
August 18, 2011 11:04 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
that house looks like it's straight outta deliverance!
August 18, 2011 11:08 AM - dibs
CHEAP!!!!! Those are Million Dollar views!!!!!!!!
August 18, 2011 11:09 AM - DeLepp
dibs, yep they are the sun rises were specatacular tuesday and wednesday.
August 18, 2011 11:10 AM - dibs
DeLepp, is it the worst house on the street?????


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August 18, 2011 11:12 AM - Arkady
DeLepp - Did you get up to see the sun rise or were you still up from sundowners the day before?
August 18, 2011 11:14 AM - minard lafever
GM all.
so I'm through with my ugh-lee morning meetings and am now contemplating lunch and a (relatively) carefree afternoon.
Is it true that it's supposed to rain for the next four days?
August 18, 2011 11:16 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
minard, if i have any say in it, yes the rain shall continue on unabated! :-)
August 18, 2011 11:17 AM - minard lafever
snappy, are you amphibious?

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August 18, 2011 11:18 AM - Arkady
Minard - It depends on which station you listen to or which link you use for weather. Last night's rain wasn't supposed to happen according to CBS but it looks as if it did. A couple of sites say it'll clear starting Sat. afternoon. But who knows?
August 18, 2011 11:18 AM - dibs
More union largesse:

Firefighter Running for L.A. Council Is Among Nation’s Top-Paid

Aug. 18 (Bloomberg) -- The Los Angeles labor leader who represents the highest-paid firefighters in the U.S. is running for the City Council on a pledge to preserve public-safety spending even as the city faces $911 million in deficits during the next four years.
Pat McOsker, 51, president of the United Firefighters of Los Angeles City since 2003, set the fastest pace for campaign contributions among 18 candidates and is endorsed by four of the biggest public-worker unions for a special election to fill an open seat Nov. 8.
“It is vital that we protect public safety,” McOsker said in declaring his candidacy last month. “I will fight any cuts to police and fire protection and work to bring long-needed reforms to City Hall.”
Los Angeles firefighters made an average of $126,258 last year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg, more than twice the national mean. Fifty-three of the city’s 100 top-paid employees in 2010 were firefighters. Each collected more than the $195,869 earned by Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. In an interview, McOsker said his pay was $145,000.
The mean wage for the nation’s 302,000 salaried firefighters was $47,730 in 2010, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. In the Los Angeles metropolitan area, which includes other cities as well as county employees, the figure was $95,000. That compared with $57,360 in the Chicago area, $51,710 in Boston and $66,800 in metropolitan New York.

August 18, 2011 11:19 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
no, not amphibious, and the rain effs up my hair, but alas i love the sound and smell. plus, it pulls all the allergens out of the air so i don't walk around sneezing repeatedly. good for me and my fellow subway riders :-)
August 18, 2011 11:20 AM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --- Mahatma Gandhi
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --- Mahatma Gandhi
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --- Mahatma Gandhi
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --- Mahatma Gandhi
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --- Mahatma Gandhi
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --- Mahatma Gandhi
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --- Mahatma Gandhi
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --- Mahatma Gandhi

The What

I love the smell of napalm in the morning...
August 18, 2011 11:21 AM - minard lafever
BHI, I appreciate your insights re Koolhaas. I can't stand him either and I too like the carousel.
Edited at August 18, 2011 11:21 AM
August 18, 2011 11:21 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
those fire fighter salaries don't sound outlandishly high to me at all.

*rob*

August 18, 2011 11:22 AM - minard lafever
I love that bugs bunny martian, I thought of making him my avatar at first.

August 18, 2011 11:23 AM - Arkady
Snappy - Do I have to point out that rain doesn't clear cat-borne allergens in certain people's apartments?
August 18, 2011 11:25 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
and neither does heat and sunshine!
August 18, 2011 11:29 AM - dibs
Snappy, this wet weather can't be good for your hair.

If you're not complaining about all sorts of food you're usually complaining about that!!!!!!!
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August 18, 2011 11:32 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
funny lookin' cat...and sadly, the cat looks better than I do after getting caught in the rain! yes, rain effs up my hair, but it helps me breathe easier. it's a trade off i'm willing to make.
August 18, 2011 11:34 AM - dibs
What good is breathing and life if you have bad hair???????????????????????????????
August 18, 2011 11:35 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
that's why God invented hats and colorful scarves ;-)
August 18, 2011 11:36 AM - dibs
I'm waiting for my new Cuenca to arrive.
August 18, 2011 11:37 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
what's that?

August 18, 2011 11:37 AM - dibs
This
Edited at August 18, 2011 11:37 AM
August 18, 2011 11:38 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
trying to picture you in that....gimme a moment...
August 18, 2011 11:39 AM - minard lafever
I was in Cuenca once. Or was it Guayaquavil? Cute old towns.

August 18, 2011 11:39 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
i can sorta see in that . your head is really small though. not sur e im imaginging properly.
August 18, 2011 11:40 AM - minard lafever
they call panamas cuencas now?
August 18, 2011 11:41 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Thank you, Minard. I look forward to future discussions(over drinks at the St. Regis, for example) during which we can delve into topics such as Robert A.M. Stern's work or the City Beautiful Movement.
August 18, 2011 11:41 AM - minard lafever
little teeny heads look good in hats.

August 18, 2011 11:45 AM - minard lafever
BHI, If you can't afford Monteros, the Old King Cole bar at the St.Regis is the next best thing.
I would love to have drinks with you there sometime, the only thing is, I don't think you are a real person.
sorry.

August 18, 2011 11:45 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
I feel like yakiniku for lunch. Euro zone stress makes me crave red meat.
Edited at August 18, 2011 11:45 AM
August 18, 2011 11:45 AM - dibs
Real Montecristi Panama Hats are much more expensive than ones made in Cuenca, Ecuador like that one.

See here for a good description but this place is WAY overpriced.......

http://www.hatshop.com/site/strawHats.php

This is the old Worth & Worth business that was sold to the current owner
Edited at August 18, 2011 11:45 AM
August 18, 2011 11:46 AM - dibs
I work one block from the St Regis.
August 18, 2011 11:49 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Perfect, Minard. I prefer to elicit the lowest possible expectations in others before they get to know me. I don't think one can be any more successful at achieving that goal than having one's very existence denied. I am like global warming: you hear all this hype and just when you think about joining the Tea Party, like the warming waves of the Atlantic my genuine charm will wash over you.
August 18, 2011 11:49 AM - Arkady
There's a new hat store going in on 5th Av. in the Slope - called Old Hat. Very pretty gold-lettering in the window.
http://www.heresparkslope.com/home/2011/8/3/goorin-brothers-hat-shop-headed-for-fifth-avenue-in-the-nort.html
August 18, 2011 11:50 AM - minard lafever
dibs, that's too bad that area is so congested.
do you think BHI is a real person?
Have you ever met a high WASP with an ironic self view?

August 18, 2011 11:52 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Montero's is fine if one is in the mood for glass blocks and that nostalgic "On the Waterfront" post-war feel. Alas, they don't have Old Raj gin or madeleines.
August 18, 2011 11:52 AM - Arkady
dibs - Your fave local ad people won an award!
http://tinyurl.com/4ytz3jj
August 18, 2011 11:53 AM - Deleted
Junipero > Old Raj
August 18, 2011 11:54 AM - Deleted
madelines are pussy french cookies. pass
Edited at August 18, 2011 11:54 AM
August 18, 2011 11:55 AM - BoerumHillScott
No one truly exists until they attend a gathering.
Edited at August 18, 2011 11:55 AM
August 18, 2011 11:56 AM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Oh, Minard. The complexities of a difficult childhood, near-death experiences and gay identity often lead to a heightened self-awareness and detachment from the standard high-WASP mindset. My goodness, Episcopalians ARE capable of irony, darling! Rarity isn't proof of impossibility...
August 18, 2011 11:56 AM - minard lafever
BHI, don't get me wrong, I think your persona is a hoot, if a bit over-the-top.
I mean, two tours of Afghanistan and thousand dollar Belgian linens? Dunno 'bout that.
One day you have to fire your whole department and the next day you're madly in love? hmmm.


August 18, 2011 11:58 AM - Deleted
i still think BHI is BRG
August 18, 2011 11:58 AM - rf
Minard, I also had my doubts yesterday.
Edited at August 18, 2011 11:58 AM
August 18, 2011 12:00 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Nuance is lost during digital communication. As a side-note, the linens I bought at Frette were on sale. Yes, even luxury goods get marked down.
August 18, 2011 12:00 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Who is BRG?
August 18, 2011 12:01 PM - Deleted
any luxury goods that are truly lux would be burned by the company before they were marked down. cheapens the brand if simpletons possess them.
August 18, 2011 12:01 PM - DeLepp
dibs, yep worst house on street. There are others in dis-repair in area but unlikely they'll be developed due to land issues.

Arkady, very moderate week for me. Saw sun rises because I was on sofa in living room which looked east at water and was blazing at 6:15. Tuesday was a burnt orange sun rise.
August 18, 2011 12:03 PM - dibs
Midtown is great to work, no congestion issues unless you need to take a taxi across town
August 18, 2011 12:04 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
DH: Hermès would agree with you, however, Frette does indeed lower prices on collections that are being phased out. Of course, they would never let them be sold by some other retailer at an even steeper discount.
August 18, 2011 12:07 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Excise me, I'm looking for Fucked In Bed Stuy.
Have you seen him?
I mean he was all chirpy a while ago but, now he's gone silent.
In fact everyone has gone silent and have nothing to say.
Does it mean *I Won* (sniffles)...
Does it mean the war is over?
Gentrification is collapsing wilh Housing Valuations?
No one wants to respond to the truth?

I'm done (Chris Brown Voice)

The What

I love the smell of napalm in the morning..
Edited at August 18, 2011 12:18 PM
August 18, 2011 12:07 PM - dibs
DH....did you see that Abercrombie & Fitch is paying that jackass on the Jersey Shore NOT to wear any of their clothes!!!!!!!!!!
August 18, 2011 12:08 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Going to Moran's for lunch. Minard: If it makes you feel better, you can imagine me rushing to the asylum cafeteria instead.
August 18, 2011 12:09 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "Montero's is fine if one is in the mood for glass blocks and that nostalgic "On the Waterfront" post-war feel. Alas, they don't have Old Raj gin or madeleines."

That's how we keep the riff raff away.

And the Monteros are family to some of us, so tread carefully.
August 18, 2011 12:10 PM - wendybear1
When the sun gets less strong, I'm going to Frette to look at sheets. I'm not taking my sunburn out of the apartment until it gets less painful out there.
August 18, 2011 12:15 PM - minard lafever
I'm partial to Wamsutta.
I like a nice bed, but spending thousands on cloth to sleep in is a little too diva-ish for me.

August 18, 2011 12:16 PM - Deleted
true bhi - and i suppose lux sheets aren't as fickle as couture. some of our brands even stopped burning and did employee sales during the economic downturn, trying to at least cover cost.
Edited at August 18, 2011 12:16 PM
August 18, 2011 12:17 PM - Deleted
yeah dibs - i read that. good move on their part!!
August 18, 2011 12:18 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Dear Anonymous,
I happen to like Montero's, so long as the hipsters don't take over Karaoke night and think they are being original by picking Duran Duran songs. It is a stalwart and nearly unique in NYC for its sheer unchangeableness. However, it doesn't help me live up to my "persona."
August 18, 2011 12:20 PM - Deleted
if you wear seersucker suits and are under 50 - newsflash - you are a hipster.
August 18, 2011 12:20 PM - lamb
duran duran's rio was the first album I ever bought, but I don't have the pipes to do simon lebon for karaoke.
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August 18, 2011 12:20 PM - minard lafever
However, it doesn't help me live up to my "persona."

BHI, no it doesn't. Morans is more in keeping. Nice place. I like that part of town much more than Midtown.

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August 18, 2011 12:21 PM - lamb
dh, I went to Isa last night. menu is tiny during the soft open, but everything we had was great.
August 18, 2011 12:22 PM - Deleted
first tape my dad ever bought me was Soundgarden-Superunknown
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August 18, 2011 12:22 PM - minard lafever
if you wear seersucker suits and are under 50 - newsflash - you are a hipster.

-no, not really. Brooks Brothers and Paul Stuart still sell a lot of seersuker.

August 18, 2011 12:23 PM - Deleted
nice lamb - worth checking out? space looked pretty cool when i passed by last friday - less themey like Freeman's is.
August 18, 2011 12:24 PM - lamb
Soundgarden-Superunknown

great record... it's really too bad chris cornell has turned into such a mega-douche.
Edited at August 18, 2011 12:23 PM
August 18, 2011 12:24 PM - Deleted
"-no, not really. Brooks Brothers and Paul Stuart still sell a lot of seersuker."

you need to be of a certain age to pull it off and not look like you're trying too hard

i personally love the look - i'd feel like a jackaass in one tho
August 18, 2011 12:25 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
DH: You actually believe that? Have you been to Williamsburg recently? My wardrobe choices have led to much name calling by others(dandy, priss, faggot, doucheouise asshole), but never "hipster." I am not easily offended, but...ouch.
Have a pleasant lunch, all.
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August 18, 2011 12:25 PM - Deleted
yeah lamb - along with Scott Wieland, Eddie Vedder, Billy Corgan and any other rockstar from that generation. sigh.

i heard the STP show at the waterfront was terrible this year.
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August 18, 2011 12:26 PM - lamb
they did a killer job on the interior. byo for now. staff was really on top of things, tho almost over eager. one of the best things we had was the cheapest--pickled daikon with shaved horseradish and chile flakes for $4. not gonna fill anyone's belly, but delicious.
August 18, 2011 12:27 PM - Deleted
"DH: You actually believe that? Have you been to Williamsburg recently?"

what that rhetorical?


August 18, 2011 12:28 PM - Deleted
cool lamb - thanks. will definitely have to check it out ASAP. gotta love BYO places.
August 18, 2011 12:28 PM - lamb
doucheouisie is brilliant
August 18, 2011 12:31 PM - Deleted
i'm trying to change the definition of hipster to "anyone who tries too hard"

BHI - it sounds like you wake up 4 hours early to get dressed.
August 18, 2011 12:31 PM - dibs
I went out to get some lunch, What

What's your retirement plan??? I asked earlier but like the douchebag you are, you can't respond
August 18, 2011 12:31 PM - BoerumHillScott
I had to look up what seersucker is.
I am so uncivilized.
August 18, 2011 12:32 PM - dibs
I would have to agree that seersucker is NOT hipster attire.
August 18, 2011 12:34 PM - Deleted
you're old dave

if you walked into marlow and sons and saw a 25 yr old wearing a seersucker suit and a pair of tortise shelled oliver peoples spectacles - what would you call them?
Edited at August 18, 2011 12:34 PM
August 18, 2011 12:36 PM - Deleted
i like critiquing dress - especially since most days my entire outfit including shoes is less than 150 bux. hypocrite!
August 18, 2011 12:36 PM - dibs
Well, if he's wearing them with tight jeans and an ugly as sin beard then I'd call him messed up.

If he's clean shaven and wearing chinos, it's a different story

You've been in Williamsburg too long
August 18, 2011 12:39 PM - minard lafever
hard to show off the hideous tattoos in a seersuker suit, unless you cut the sleeves, off, then perhaps you're approaching hipsterwear.

August 18, 2011 12:39 PM - Deleted
i mean the full on suit - pants, jacket, white shirt, pastel tie or bowtie of some sort.

blazer by itself can be fine. that's not how i imagine BHI
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August 18, 2011 12:41 PM - dibs
"i mean the full on suit - pants, jacket, white shirt, pastel tie or bowtie of some sort."

That's NOT hipster. You're being obtuse.
August 18, 2011 12:42 PM - Deleted
dibs - you make me laugh sometimes
August 18, 2011 12:43 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
if you walked into marlow and sons and saw a 25 yr old wearing a seersucker suit and a pair of tortise shelled oliver peoples spectacles - what would you call them?

a spoiled moonface

*rob*

August 18, 2011 12:43 PM - Deleted
whatevs - arguing with you about the pretentious clothing of the under 30 set is like you arguing with montrose and bxgrl about free health care.


off to meet landlord - later gaters.
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August 18, 2011 12:44 PM - lamb
That's NOT hipster. You're being obtuse.

not exclusively, dibs, but the seersucker has definitely been co-opted by hipsters.
August 18, 2011 12:45 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
DH from the times ive seen you outside your job, it appears your company has a very lax dress code. haha

*rob*

August 18, 2011 12:46 PM - dibs
"but the seersucker has definitely been co-opted by hipsters."

Because they are striving to be something that they are not.

If they are still wearing the pork pie hat, they seem even more ridiculous.
August 18, 2011 12:47 PM - WonTon
If history is any guide, BHI will probably turn out to be a straight woman.
Edited at August 18, 2011 12:47 PM
August 18, 2011 12:48 PM - MontroseMorris
"whatevs - arguing with you about the pretentious clothing of the under 30 set is like you arguing with montrose and bxgrl about free health care."

Hey, what does that mean? :)

Hey DH, I'm with you. If Dave would just admit we're right, the world would be a better place for all.
August 18, 2011 12:50 PM - dibs
The US governement couldn't manage free healthcare without really screwing it up, kinda like it's doing now.

Montrose, you should just STFU and EAT YOUR PEAS as our dear leader heads off to nantucket for a well deserved vacation.
August 18, 2011 12:52 PM - minard lafever
I have seen young guys in tight seersucker jackets over t-shirts with grandpa hats.
But there are also guys wearing the full regalia including wingtips and bowties.

Edited at August 18, 2011 12:52 PM
August 18, 2011 12:53 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "What's your retirement plan??? I asked earlier but like the douchebag you are, you can't respond"

To live in my house rent free *Opps* Did I say "my house"???

Ohhhhh All these years I let that slip out.....

Oh it's paid for... *Opps* another one.. I'm sorry haters...

The What

I lurve the smell of napalm in the morning...
Edited at August 18, 2011 12:53 PM
August 18, 2011 12:55 PM - dibs
I need some chocolate.
August 18, 2011 12:56 PM - dibs
I'll be living in three of mine, "rent free."

How are you going to earn your tax money and your living expenses????

Social Security?????

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Edited at August 18, 2011 12:56 PM
August 18, 2011 12:57 PM - minard lafever
WT, I know about five people who could be BHI in the sense that they are really good observers of the scene and have sophisticated senses of humor.
However the real specimens, whether gay or straight, take their heritage and lineage extremely seriously, are very proud of it although they would never boast, and really have very little sense of humor about it.

August 18, 2011 12:58 PM - dibs
I also remember you saying you paid off your mortgage recently.

VERY, VERY stupid thing in this low interest rate environment. Shows a real lack of financial acumen.
August 18, 2011 1:04 PM - MontroseMorris
Dave, don't you have an aged widow or sickly orphan to evict? Or a small business to eviscerate?

Personally, with all the stuff the Prez has on his plate, I'd want him to take a bit of time off and relax. Overwhelmed and uptight people don't make great decisions. Besides, there are those things called phones, fax machines, and hand held communications devices that connect to the internet. It's not like he's in the Yukon hunting on an ice floe. Considering the amount of time some of his predecessors took off, the man's a workaholic. I love it when people rag on Obama for having a good time once in a while. Every president in living memory has done so, but when it's him, it's a big deal.
Edited at August 18, 2011 1:04 PM
August 18, 2011 1:08 PM - dibs
Not ragging on him for having a good time but right NOW the timing is VERY bad.
August 18, 2011 1:08 PM - minard lafever
MM, I don't have any problem with the Prez taking a vacation, but he does seem to take a lot of them at a time when the country is reeling.


Edited at August 18, 2011 1:08 PM
August 18, 2011 1:09 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Ya know, it's interesting to me that NOLOSLO has not posted much since meeting us. (Cobble commenting on the fly)
August 18, 2011 1:11 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Minard, GWB did same, re: vacations. (Cobble)
August 18, 2011 1:12 PM - dibs
If I liked white guys I'd want to have a roll in the hay with NOLOSLO. Lucky for him that I don't.
August 18, 2011 1:13 PM - dibs
Cobble, not when the economy and the markets and the global situation were this precarious!!!!!!!!

This is just bad timing and/or bad judgement.

He seems to have inept advisers.
August 18, 2011 1:14 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Obama should not be taking vacations now. I mean even Biden is on the job in china for fucks sake. How in the world can Obama think taking vacation now could do anything but tarnish an already tarnished image? As much as it pains me I am really starting to agree with those who say he's just not cut out for the job. What a disappointment.
August 18, 2011 1:15 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: He was pretty cute. I had a nice chat with him as we left the bar at the sametime. (CobbleL
August 18, 2011 1:15 PM - minard lafever
I agree with dibs (unusual) that the prez has inept advisers.
Michelle too has bad bad advisers. They better get new ones asap.

August 18, 2011 1:16 PM - minard lafever
I agree with dibs (unusual) that the prez has inept advisers.
Michelle too has bad bad advisers. They better get new ones asap.

August 18, 2011 1:16 PM - MontroseMorris
I can't think of a time since he's been in office, where it DIDN'T look bad when he took a vacation. The economy's been in the toilet since day one. There's always been a war, or some international catastrophe somewhere, it's always something. Some one always had something to say. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
August 18, 2011 1:16 PM - CGar
"If I liked white guys I'd want to have a roll in the hay with NOLOSLO. Lucky for him that I don't."

I've heard different . . .
August 18, 2011 1:17 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: Oops, back to work....(cobble)
August 18, 2011 1:17 PM - Biff Champion
Not sure about Obama not being cut out for the job, although one can probably say that about over half the past Presidents. Otherwise, I agree with Randi.
Edited at August 18, 2011 1:17 PM
August 18, 2011 1:18 PM - minard lafever
sorry about the double, the computer sort of froze the first time.
I spoke with upperlowerwester, for a good long time at the bar. he is a very nice,
serious young man. I think he has his hands full with the new house, renovating, etc.

August 18, 2011 1:19 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
he's still on call tho regardless, and he has like 10 staffers / advisors on vacation with him as well. doesn't really sound THAT relaxing. and people NEED vacation time.

*rob*

August 18, 2011 1:20 PM - DeLepp
obama, like many managers our paid to take it on the chin. How many of us delayed vacations for fiascos? It gives his oponents ammo and his supporters pause, especially many don't have the benefit of taking vacations themselves.
August 18, 2011 1:22 PM - dibs
Has Biden said anything embarrassing yet over in China??? If not, give him time.
Edited at August 18, 2011 1:22 PM
August 18, 2011 1:23 PM - Biff Champion
"obama, like many managers our paid to take it on the chin."

No bukkake?
August 18, 2011 1:23 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "I also remember you saying you paid off your mortgage recently.

VERY, VERY stupid thing in this low interest rate environment. Shows a real lack of financial acumen."

BBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're a stupid motherfucker Dave!

THAT TAKES THE CAKE!!!!!!!

LIVING IN A HOUSE FREE AND CLEAR IS A BAD DECISION?????!!!!!

OH MY MOTHEFUCKING GOD!!!

PEOPLE PAY YOU TO INVEST THIER MONEY!!!!!!!!!

OH FUCKING HELP ME I'M LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF RIGHT NOW!!!!

YA'LL LISTEN TO DAVE!!!!!

THAT'S IT I'M DONE!!!!!

THE WHAT

I SEE DEAD PEOPLE...
August 18, 2011 1:24 PM - DeLepp
biff, a wee bit early for RH.
August 18, 2011 1:25 PM - dibs
He should be taking a STAYCATION, like most Americans have to.
Edited at August 18, 2011 1:25 PM
August 18, 2011 1:27 PM - dibs
What, you've really got no clue about the opportunity cost of money. Really.

You think you're smarter than everyone else here yet you can't grasp the ability to borrow at 4.5% and get higher returns on that money elsewhere.

STUPID, PURE AND SIMPLE


Edited at August 18, 2011 1:27 PM
August 18, 2011 1:27 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
lol that's true! ive not left to city limits in the last 3 years :( and i get 15 days vacatin a year!! sometimes i feel like it's such a waste!!


*rob*

August 18, 2011 1:28 PM - Biff Champion
Drinking and raunch hour: two things it's never too early for.
August 18, 2011 1:29 PM - DeLepp
ok, can't say I disagree.
August 18, 2011 1:30 PM - dibs
There are better places to take it than on the chin. Although, someone once told me I have an "ass chin" which would assume that it's f&%ckable!!!!!!
August 18, 2011 1:31 PM - lamb
amen, biff...

dibs, you would've appreciated the movie I watched last night. korean movie called 'the man from nowhere'. tough, pretty male korean protagonist and conspicuous lack of hot asian female love interest. I felt robbed.

Edited at August 18, 2011 1:31 PM
August 18, 2011 1:31 PM - minard lafever
Obama is in a bit of a disadvantage in that, like Clinton, he really doesn't have a home outside of DC where he can go with the fam and say it is "the little white house".
Renting multi-million dollar houses on Martha's Vineyard just has a different sound than going back "home".
It's all appearances. He should not be seen with golf clubs or doing any of those normal fun summer things at a time of financial crisis verging on meltdown. That's politics. And Michelle should cut back a bit on the haute couture and on the glam vacations of her own. I actually think she is doing that and keeping a lower profile ala Laura Bush.

August 18, 2011 1:33 PM - dibs
I know the movie. His name is Won Bin...


August 18, 2011 1:34 PM - Biff Champion
OMG, it's times like this I really wish I could comment on Brownstoner. The HOTD would have gotten over 100 comments back in the day.
August 18, 2011 1:34 PM - dibs
Exactly, Minard.
August 18, 2011 1:35 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "You think you're smarter than everyone else here yet you can't grasp the ability to borrow at 4.5% and get higher returns on that money elsewhere."

Here let me help you retarded fuck.

If I'm not paying rent or a mortgage can I put the saving to work for me?

Let's say T pay 2500 a month in mortgage payments but I pay off the debt and START FUCKING BANKING THE PAYMENTS!!!!

HOW MUCH MONEY WILL I HAVE YOU STUPID RETARDED ASSHOLE?????????

WHY NOT BUY TREASURIES WITH THE PAYMENTS ASSHOLE????????????

HEY THERE"S A MEXICAN THAT WANTS TO GET SUCKED OFF OVER THERE------->

BEING A HOMO IS WHAT YOU"RE GOOD NOT INVESTING!!!!!!

PWNED!!!


The What

************* Dave************ *********** ********************
August 18, 2011 1:38 PM - lamb
well, not fair that there was no korean equivalent of shu qi to play opposite...


Edited at August 18, 2011 1:38 PM
August 18, 2011 1:39 PM - DeLepp
biff, that portico on 2nd level looks like a litigator's dream.
August 18, 2011 1:42 PM - dibs
Thanks for the headsup, DeLepp!!!!! Truly awesaome!!!!!!
August 18, 2011 1:43 PM - Biff Champion
I think the pool room looks kind of cool. My déclassé side is showing.
Edited at August 18, 2011 1:43 PM
August 18, 2011 1:44 PM - Biff Champion
Cool, in a Carnival Cruise Ship kind of way, that is...
Edited at August 18, 2011 1:44 PM
August 18, 2011 1:45 PM - dibs
You dumbass. Refi the higher rate to a lower one and invest the money in securities yielding 5.0-7.0%.

Dumbass, your payments saved don't compare to the few hundred thousand you can borrow at 4.5% and invest at a higher rate.



STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID
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Edited at August 18, 2011 1:46 PM
August 18, 2011 1:45 PM - dibs
Biff, pull up your pants. I'm not interested in seeing your hairy declasse


August 18, 2011 1:46 PM - lamb
Cool, in a Carnival Cruise Ship kind of way, that is...

does it come with a drydock, biff?
August 18, 2011 1:49 PM - Biff Champion
From Wikipedia...Raunch Hour has officially started:

"A drydock (also commonly dry dock) is a narrow basin or vessel that can be flooded to allow a load to be floated in, then drained to allow that load to come to rest on a dry platform."
August 18, 2011 1:49 PM - dibs
HEY THERE"S A MEXICAN THAT WANTS TO GET SUCKED OFF OVER THERE------->


Who gave you the BJ and sucked your brains out??????????????????????
August 18, 2011 1:51 PM - dibs
Docking:

The act of placing the head of ones penis inside the foreskin of another's penis.


August 18, 2011 1:55 PM - dibs
Raunch Hour before 2:00 on a THURSDAY is really living on the edge.

Minard's gonna have a hissy fit when he gets back from lunch


August 18, 2011 1:55 PM - lamb
haha!! I'd be feeling pretty smug if I knew that precise definition before posting the word...
August 18, 2011 1:56 PM - lamb
drydock would be a great handle.
Edited at August 18, 2011 1:56 PM
August 18, 2011 1:59 PM - dibs
I was docking with a guy in Phuket (pronounced Poo ket, not Fuck et) many years ago who had an incredibly long one.


Edited at August 18, 2011 2:00 PM
August 18, 2011 2:00 PM - dibs
Actually, the more common usage of drydock is just a boat out of water usually on an elevated platform for work to be done or to be stored.

Taking it out of drydock means putting it in the water
August 18, 2011 2:04 PM - lamb
Actually, the more common usage of drydock is just a boat out of water usually on an elevated platform for work to be done or to be stored.

that's what I had in mind, but biff's is way better...
August 18, 2011 2:08 PM - WonTon
Just hooked up with Clear 4G. Connection here in North Slope is awesomely good. Unlike most user reviews I've read, I don't need to stick my modem in the window. Five bars of power with the modem on my desk.

Getting download speeds of 5.3 mb, uploads of 1mb. Waaaay zippier than my Verizon DSL connection.

Best part: it works with my Vonage phone.

Will give it another week of trial, but my first reaction is: Bye Bye Verizon!
Edited at August 18, 2011 2:08 PM
August 18, 2011 2:11 PM - BoerumHillScott
I've always thought of drydock as a floodable basin.

Growing up, we did not have a special term for taking a boat out of water.
August 18, 2011 2:13 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
docking sounds about as functional and fun as two lesbians rubbing their gooberpies against each others :-/ what's the point?

*rob*

August 18, 2011 2:14 PM - dibs
I didn't say it was a term for taking a boat out of water. Reading comprehension!!!!!!
August 18, 2011 2:15 PM - lamb
having grown up landlocked I have only limited knowledge of boat lingo...

(now awaiting some grosser definition of 'landlocked' from a subsequent post)
Edited at August 18, 2011 2:15 PM
August 18, 2011 2:15 PM - dibs
LOL...someone in the HOTD said it looks like a "SkyMall catalog vomited all over it."


Edited at August 18, 2011 2:15 PM
August 18, 2011 2:18 PM - dibs
lamb, keep your dinghy out of the cockpit. I can't fathom keeling overboard because of yaw mistakes.
August 18, 2011 2:19 PM - BoerumHillScott
OK, there was no special term for a boat out of water usually on an elevated platform for work to be done or to be stored.

It was just called "working on a boat out of water."
August 18, 2011 2:21 PM - dibs
Or, it was in drydock. The correct terminology.

As opposed to docked or moored.


Edited at August 18, 2011 2:23 PM
August 18, 2011 2:21 PM - boerumresident
The economy is in not well, but it's hardly precarious.
Edited at August 18, 2011 2:21 PM
August 18, 2011 2:22 PM - lamb
I'll bow to your superior knowledge as long as you keep all hands on deck and don't drop anchor.
August 18, 2011 2:24 PM - dibs
It is sitting precariously between some growth and zero growth or negative growth, kinda like a boat badly drydocked and about to keel over!!!!!
August 18, 2011 2:24 PM - boerumresident
Forget it -- I can't spell to save my life here.
Edited at August 18, 2011 2:24 PM
August 18, 2011 2:24 PM - dibs
I prefer getting or giving head as opposed to going to the head.
August 18, 2011 2:25 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Biff - same over here re hotd on bstoner. I could post but both my accounts are still banned. So fucking lame, just cuz I said the hot seat broker was hot and then made fun of mr b for telling people to stay on comment.
August 18, 2011 2:25 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
just saw that HOTD thread, wow there's an awful amount of jealous and closed-minded people in that thread. i'd LOVE to see their little ikea overloaded shitholes they probably call home.


*rob*

August 18, 2011 2:27 PM - boerumresident
2008 was like a boat badly drydocked and about to keel over -- this is more like a boat in need of some work that is still out at sea with a tropical storm getting too close for comfort. In other words, the boat could very likely be in stormy weather and take some knocks, but will sail again soon enough.
August 18, 2011 2:28 PM - lamb
wikipedia's glossary of nautical terms is a gold mine. first 3 entries under 'b':

back and fill
backstays
baggywrinkle

all of these sound like things dibs might have done or seen.
August 18, 2011 2:29 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Mr b, if you or one of your people is lurking around here (as I suspect you are) can you please unblock me? I promise to play nice.
August 18, 2011 2:29 PM - dibs
boerumresident, you apparently haven't been following the recent (last week and a half) economic data. GDP estimates have been cut and some are predicting that the economy may have actually slipped into a recession in August.

hence the market.
August 18, 2011 2:35 PM - dibs
randi...send him an email.
Edited at August 18, 2011 2:35 PM
August 18, 2011 2:37 PM - BoerumHillScott
Didn't CGar get his account locked out?

Edited at August 18, 2011 2:37 PM
August 18, 2011 2:42 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
ew dont send him an email begging to be unbanned. dont you have any self respect, randi?

*rob*

Edited at August 18, 2011 2:42 PM
August 18, 2011 2:43 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: I am not going to send him an email.
August 18, 2011 2:45 PM - dibs
Then stop whining about it.
Edited at August 18, 2011 2:45 PM
August 18, 2011 2:46 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
anyone here have 'dragon naturally speaking' or a program like it on a mac?
August 18, 2011 2:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
take a dump in his trash can

*rob*

August 18, 2011 2:49 PM - Biff Champion
I would start a campaign to have Randi unblocked but for the fact I'm blocked myself.
August 18, 2011 2:49 PM - dibs
"anyone here have 'dragon naturally speaking' or a program like it on a mac?"

No but most Asian guys do "double dragon" when peeing in my toilet

:(
August 18, 2011 2:50 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
oh dear heavens...i shouldda known better than to ask over here!
August 18, 2011 2:52 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Double Dragon is one of my favorite video game franchises!

*rob*

August 18, 2011 2:56 PM - Legion
why is randi kissing ass to be let back on brownstoner?

That's exactly what the What was talking about,
would you really go back if he suddenly realized it was good to have 1000 posts per day?
Edited at August 18, 2011 2:56 PM
August 18, 2011 3:00 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: I'm not kissing ass just asking for a little rationality. Plus he said he didn't want us to all leave. Maybe that was a lie.
August 18, 2011 3:00 PM - Legion
Can I bring up Global Warming again,
since I see that a few people posted about it the past two days?

But only if people are interested in learning something about the actual science of the debate. I know that's a lot to ask but I'm putting it out there nonetheless.
August 18, 2011 3:01 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: That's exactly what the What was talking about,
would you really go back if he suddenly realized it was good to have 1000 posts per day?

As soon as Brownstoner puts the OT back, the fucktards will line up for his Jizz spray!
Knobbing on his nut sack and begging for their head to be smashed into the sheetrock!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end...
August 18, 2011 3:03 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: "I'm not kissing ass just asking for a little rationality. Plus he said he didn't want us to all leave. Maybe that was a lie."

Oh yes you're Fucknugget!

The What

Someday this war is gonna end..
August 18, 2011 3:03 PM - BoerumHillScott
Legion, this is no place for science or logical debate.

We demand a combination of ideology and penis jokes.
August 18, 2011 3:05 PM - dibs
I love it that though the What hates all of us, thinks this site is inferior to his own (nonexistent) site and continues to say goodbye, he monitors every single post here

BWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Edited at August 18, 2011 3:08 PM
August 18, 2011 3:08 PM - WonTon
If we had a bit of startup money to throw at LifeinBkln, to pay for some design and few writers, etc., we WOULD be better than Brownstoner is today.
August 18, 2011 3:09 PM - Not_Logged_In
Anonymous: yeah Dave but, I can put up a great site. You and Legion know that.

The Beach was a great piece of work and after 3 weeks this place is garbage.

So yak up up homie, you got nathan..

The What

*****Dave***********, *******************!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited at August 18, 2011 3:08 PM
August 18, 2011 3:09 PM - dibs
Perhaps, Wonton but we wouldn't have the real estate/rental listings which is where the real money comes from.
August 18, 2011 3:10 PM - WonTon
whoops, misread Dave's last post...ha ha. I thought he was talking about Mr. B, not What.
August 18, 2011 3:11 PM - dibs
Is that Charles Barron in the rear?????
August 18, 2011 3:15 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: The what is like herpes.
August 18, 2011 3:17 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
I would write a column pro bono.
August 18, 2011 3:17 PM - infinitejester
Biff, YOU are blocked on brownstoner?! What on earth for?
August 18, 2011 3:18 PM - dibs
I could write a column about pro boners.
August 18, 2011 3:19 PM - Legion
...who's gonna write about Bono's boner?
Any music people out there?
August 18, 2011 3:20 PM - infinitejester
I had a morning meeting with my broker. He said, "I don't know if you've noticed, but the Dow is down 400 points already." It was 10:05 am.
August 18, 2011 3:21 PM - dibs
What did he advise doing, jester???
August 18, 2011 3:23 PM - Legion
...buying stock in Hanes,
cause everyone's crapping their pants.
August 18, 2011 3:23 PM - infinitejester
Moved my floating fund into Wells Fargo fund, and rolled over my annuity. I told him, "All I want is for it to grow and be available when I want to buy a place, sometime in the next ten years."
August 18, 2011 3:23 PM - Biff Champion
Jester, I'm not banned, but I'm blocked from posting while I'm at The Death Star, which is pretty much the only place I'd post from as, contrary to popular belief, I have a life outside of work.
August 18, 2011 3:27 PM - dibs
Does he work for Wells fargo??? What did the floating fund consist of and what type of WF fund did he roll it into??
Edited at August 18, 2011 3:27 PM
August 18, 2011 3:27 PM - infinitejester
Remind me to tell you about the 30-odd Japanese women I rent space to.
August 18, 2011 3:28 PM - dibs
What was the floating fund yielding??
August 18, 2011 3:29 PM - infinitejester
Yes he does. Hartford Floating Rate Fund into a Wells Fargo somethng or other, diversification rebalancing blah blahblah I know nothing. Known him for a long time so I'm comfy with it.
August 18, 2011 3:30 PM - infinitejester
4%.
August 18, 2011 3:31 PM - dibs
Yes but he gets a higher commission to sell his own products. It is inherently a conflict of interest.

Is the WF Fund more fixed income????? Global contagion aside, fixed income is going to take a dirtnap as rates rise!!!!!
August 18, 2011 3:32 PM - dibs
Do you own any equities??? Now would be a good time to buy high dividend paying stocks with yields of 4.5% to 6.5%

DIVERSIFIED
August 18, 2011 3:33 PM - infinitejester
1.3% fee vs. 1.7% old one. And he said we're on the same side of the table - actively managed portfolio.

Not fixed income, just a diversified portfolio, moderate risk.
Edited at August 18, 2011 3:33 PM
August 18, 2011 3:34 PM - infinitejester
70% stocks, 30% bonds.
August 18, 2011 3:35 PM - dibs
OK, that sounds good
Edited at August 18, 2011 3:35 PM
August 18, 2011 3:36 PM - Arkady
I think we should try having a help forum here - it'd be a draw for new people - greater variety. Could get little ads from small contractors.
August 18, 2011 3:36 PM - dibs
But I bet he keeps more of the 1.3% fee than the 1.7% fee!!!!!! Win-win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 18, 2011 3:37 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Poor Chaz Bono. It is hard to find a size 4X t-shirt that says:
"I got a F2M sex change operation and all I got was an even more lesbian appearance."
August 18, 2011 3:39 PM - dibs
BHI, I didn't know you had such a catty side.
Edited at August 18, 2011 3:41 PM
August 18, 2011 3:40 PM - infinitejester
Thanks, Dave. I was sweating bullets there. I hardly dare to raise the topic.
Edited at August 18, 2011 3:40 PM
August 18, 2011 3:40 PM - minard lafever
Oh well, a double dip recession at this point seems inevitable.

Did everyone have a nice lunch?

August 18, 2011 3:42 PM - dibs
Minard, I saw you OVER THERE drooling over the HOTD. Don't think I couldn't read between the lines and figure out that you were envious.

Bay Ridge has rats you know
August 18, 2011 3:47 PM - minard lafever
Dave, I can be a bit contrarian
Edited at August 18, 2011 3:47 PM
August 18, 2011 3:48 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Rats. And Italians.
August 18, 2011 3:53 PM - dibs
BHI...any thoughts on the two listing brokers??????

http://www.nestseekers.com/34938/240-78th-st-bayridge-behemoth-bay-ridge-mansion-the-jewel-of-brooklyn?src=470AqF7
August 18, 2011 3:56 PM - dibs
One looks to be your marrying type and the other who you might want to fool around with when you're looking for something a bit more ethnic
August 18, 2011 3:57 PM - minard lafever
I don't know why the financial planner geniuses always carry on about diversification, when the markets turn bad, it all sinks like a stone.


August 18, 2011 4:00 PM - dibs
NOT TRUE, Minard.

Here we have Treasuries up nicely over the past 30 days and even munis are above July levels!!!!!

Buy NEV 7.0% federal tax free



Edited at August 18, 2011 4:00 PM
August 18, 2011 4:02 PM - minard lafever
what the hell is NEV?
August 18, 2011 4:04 PM - dibs
It's a well diversified Nuveen Muni bond fund. Nuveen has been the experts on munis since the 1970s.
August 18, 2011 4:04 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
"I wouldn't stick one finger in that hideous house, but those two brokers? Definitely. A former soap opera "doctor" and the former personal assistant to a cosmetics executive? Table for three, please!"
Dave, the soap opera failure is cute, but I tend to avoid long term involvement with men who use that much hair spray. The "ethnic" one is gorge...I much prefer him actually. If I was single and he is a bottom, oh the possibilities.
August 18, 2011 4:05 PM - minard lafever
thank you I'll look into it. I'm sure that my clueless planner has no idea.

August 18, 2011 4:08 PM - minard lafever
do we think BHI drinks his lunch?

August 18, 2011 4:10 PM - Biff Champion
I actually tried to come out of my involuntary Brownstoner retirement to post on the HOTD thread via Blackberry, but alas, looks like that's not an option for me anymore.
August 18, 2011 4:10 PM - Arkady
I just got an email to confirm a Playstation I'd supposedly posted for sale on Craig's List in Singapore. Anyone know of a scam built around that?
August 18, 2011 4:10 PM - wendybear1
Ok, just got back from Laytner's. I got a queen fitted sheet, a votive holder, and a votive candle for $32. The service sucked bad, but the prices are worth it.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:10 PM
August 18, 2011 4:11 PM - Biff Champion
Minard, if so, I want what he's drinking.
August 18, 2011 4:11 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
I took an extra Adderall with lunch.
August 18, 2011 4:12 PM - dibs
Arkady, my hotel room in Singapore was always referred to as the "Playstation."
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:12 PM
August 18, 2011 4:12 PM - Biff Champion
"I got a queen fitted sheet"

You bought linens for DIBS?
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:12 PM
August 18, 2011 4:15 PM - dibs
What the hell is a queen fitted sheet good for without the other sheet and the pillow cases??????????? Don't tell me you mix and match????

Please, befriend a gay that you can take shopping with you.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:15 PM
August 18, 2011 4:17 PM - Arkady
Scott said yesterday that they only wore out their bottom sheets.
dibs - This listing said it's Heavy Metal - I wouldn't've thought that was your style.
August 18, 2011 4:18 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Mr b just outed montrose Morris w her real name in a post. Not cool.
August 18, 2011 4:18 PM - wendybear1
"Please, befriend a gay that you can take shopping with you."
It's not that, DIBS, it's my husband. I'd have more than one set of sheets, if it weren't for his practicality.

And I'd love to have a gay go shopping with me. I'm sure my boudoir would benefit greatly.
August 18, 2011 4:19 PM - HOBOKENROCKS
If anyone has a chance to refinance I think you should do it , My charts are pointing to a low by Monday with the market also bottoming on Monday. But those may be short term lows.. And I am no psychic so I could be wrong and am not offering any advice.. Just my opinion.. Nice to see the site going strong..
August 18, 2011 4:20 PM - BoerumHillScott
We pretty much have to mix and match anyway, since we sleep with separate sheets. Both of us move around too much at night.

It seems like a huge waste throwing out a perfectly good flat sheet and two pillow cases because the fitted sheet needed to be replaced.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:20 PM
August 18, 2011 4:20 PM - dibs
I'm sure he ran it by both her and Morgan before he posted it.
August 18, 2011 4:21 PM - HOBOKENROCKS
LOW IN RATES

August 18, 2011 4:21 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
I'll take you shopping Wendy Bear. What color is your Amex? As they say, "the darker the plastic, the sweeter the shopping!"
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:21 PM
August 18, 2011 4:22 PM - dibs
HOBOKEN...I too believe we are at or near that point.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:22 PM
August 18, 2011 4:25 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: No it was gabby. She's been known to shit the bed in the past.
August 18, 2011 4:25 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Wendy, let me take you sheet shopping...I am the bedding queen...high quality at discount prices :-)
August 18, 2011 4:27 PM - Biff Champion
Randi, in what thread?
August 18, 2011 4:27 PM - HOBOKENROCKS
dibs if we go back up from this point the downturn will be worse in the long term, I want a break down . If we get a break down than we will see a nice 3-6 month rally . If we break down than I see 1013 -1050 as support and where I would be buying..
August 18, 2011 4:27 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I sure hope they got her permission.
August 18, 2011 4:28 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
closing bell, biff
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:28 PM
August 18, 2011 4:28 PM - MontroseMorris
I've been doing more and more lectures, walking tours and writing than ever, so I need to establish my real name, for Google-ability, not just "Montrose Morris". I did give permission for it.

The things I do for my craft. I also got my brother to buy me a bike.

That said, did you see that the Bay Ridge house has a heated and air conditioned dog house? Do they give Pooch a remote so he can regulate the temperature? Americans are SO due a revolution.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:28 PM
August 18, 2011 4:29 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Phew! I was getting nervous for you, MM! Oh, and about that heated and cooled pooch house? I'll be stealing that and turning it into a crash pad for my wee ones :-)
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
August 18, 2011 4:29 PM - minard lafever
an "extra" Adderall. I see.
well then, I have to get moving and buy NEV and some adderall for my HDTV.

August 18, 2011 4:30 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Montrose: Did he buy you a Pashley? I wouldn't be caught dead on anything but a Pashley.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:30 PM
August 18, 2011 4:32 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Closing bell. The second comment says "I just googled her and saw her Facebook...." hahahaha. So then I did the same and now I know MM went to Yale and graduated high school in 1973. I wasn't even born yet!
August 18, 2011 4:35 PM - wendybear1
Snappy, I'd love to shop with you!
August 18, 2011 4:36 PM - minard lafever
I'm sure Montrose wants nothing more than to spend $1400 on a bicycle.

Edited at August 18, 2011 4:36 PM
August 18, 2011 4:37 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
First rule of shopping with me - only shop in Brooklyn! Rule #2, you must love (or learn to tolerate) riding buses. Snappy does not take the train when there is a comparable bus route! How do you feel about riding a bus all the way down to 86th Street? :-)
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:36 PM
August 18, 2011 4:37 PM - dibs
BHI, I bet you like how those leather seats "ride up" your bum.
August 18, 2011 4:37 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
It's her brother's money, darling.
August 18, 2011 4:38 PM - dibs
randolph wrote:


"So then I did the same and now I know MM went to Yale and graduated high school in 1973. I wasn't even born yet!"

Did you graduate from high school???
August 18, 2011 4:39 PM - dibs
I just got a 25% off email from CVS. Time to stock up on condoms again. I'm low on Magnums too
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:40 PM
August 18, 2011 4:39 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Oh, Dave. You are an absolute caution!
August 18, 2011 4:39 PM - MontroseMorris
OK, TMI. Gotta change my Facebook Wall.
August 18, 2011 4:41 PM - minard lafever
i want to congratulate Montrose -Suzanne- on her idea of bicycle architectural tours of Brooklyn. How excellent.
It may even get me to buy a bicycle -a Kmart bicycle-.

Edited at August 18, 2011 4:41 PM
August 18, 2011 4:42 PM - Arkady
MM - I've still got you beat by a dozen years - don't worry. You're younger than springtime.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:42 PM
August 18, 2011 4:43 PM - Deleted
Just met the new landlord. really cool dude. it's going to be really nice to live on a block with trees again.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:43 PM
August 18, 2011 4:45 PM - Deleted
dave - you woulda loved the apartment. it was filled with about 8 hot sweaty mexican guys.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:45 PM
August 18, 2011 4:45 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
L.L. Bean sells inexpensive bicycles, Minard, AND they have free shipping.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:45 PM
August 18, 2011 4:46 PM - minard lafever
that's a good tip BHI.
thank you.
August 18, 2011 4:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
LOL MM. SO not the name i pictured. tho for the most part i dont call anyone by their real names, even people i know in real life and not from the internet.

and this:
That said, did you see that the Bay Ridge house has a heated and air conditioned dog house? Do they give Pooch a remote so he can regulate the temperature? Americans are SO due a revolution.

a revolution because dogs dont deserve heat and air conditioning!?!? i think not. sometimes i leave the ac on my for dog during the day. dogs get hot in the summer!!

*rob*

August 18, 2011 4:47 PM - WonTon
Montrose, I spent 3 years in grad school at Yale's Afro-Am department in the 1990s! I was the head teaching assistant to "Master T" of Timothy Dwight.....
August 18, 2011 4:48 PM - dibs
We leave the Ac on in Philly for the cats.
August 18, 2011 4:49 PM - Deleted
Whenever I pass the Montrose Ave stop on the L train on my way back from Roberta's (wasted) I think of MM. Weird, huh?
August 18, 2011 4:50 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Merry Christmas!
August 18, 2011 4:51 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Just imagine how much worse it would be if there were shrubs.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:51 PM
August 18, 2011 4:53 PM - MontroseMorris
WonTon, John Thompson! Ashe! He ruled. I took his class, and absolutely loved it. The man is amazing. Small world!

If my brother had offered to buy me a $1200 bike, I'd have asked for the cash. Bike, with accessories, cost $300.

Bike tour was NOT my idea, Minard, although it is a good one. It was the brainchild of the Historic Districts Council. They did one earlier this year in Gowanus.

August 18, 2011 4:53 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
wait im confused. it says the bike tour costs 10 dollars. what is to stop anyone from tagging along if they dont pay the 10 dollars? i tagged along once on a walking tour in park slope (not sure if they charged) no one really said anything. this was like 3 years ago

*rob*

August 18, 2011 4:54 PM - minard lafever
i leave the ac on for the anamules as well.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:54 PM
August 18, 2011 4:54 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Yes Dave. And college as well.

Magnums? For you or the other guy?
August 18, 2011 4:54 PM - Deleted
"what is to stop anyone from tagging along if they dont pay the 10 dollars?"

being a dick
August 18, 2011 4:55 PM - Legion
Montrose,
That's great news about the lectures and writing.
Good luck and much success.


Edited at August 18, 2011 4:55 PM
August 18, 2011 4:55 PM - Deleted
i saw some dude on a bike going around slapping stickers on cars parked in the bikelane that said:

"i park in bike lanes, i'm an asshole" (white with pink lettering)
August 18, 2011 4:56 PM - Slopefarm
dh, I was more or less in your old neighborhood last week (I consider anything north and west of the Wythe Ave BQE exit your hood as long as it's still in Brooklyn). I did some serious damage at Permanent Records, then we had a nice dinner out back at Anella. I know that's GP, not WB, but, still, a record store and restaurant on the hipster waterfront.
August 18, 2011 4:56 PM - Biff Champion
"Magnums? For you or the other guy?"

Is this a trick question? Pun intended...

August 18, 2011 4:56 PM - dibs
I don't want all those damn bikes in my neighborhood.

Stay off my lawn and don't lean those damn bikes on my railing.
Edited at August 18, 2011 4:56 PM
August 18, 2011 4:56 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: I think the Hannah Montana bike with those tassels on the handlebars will give you away rob!
August 18, 2011 4:56 PM - MontroseMorris
I know dogs get hot in the summer, and have no problem if you want to keep your A/C on, cats suffer too, in the heat. But a heated and cooled doghouse is just too much. Just my opinion.
August 18, 2011 4:59 PM - MontroseMorris
Thanks, Legion.

Rob, the tours have HDC staff who take the money and make sure anyone tagging along pays up. Only on the internet is information free.
August 18, 2011 5:00 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Yes, Montrose. A heated and cooled doghouse is sooo televangelist.
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:00 PM
August 18, 2011 5:00 PM - WonTon
MM..be prepared to do the secret handshake at the next gathering :)

I will be wearing my red capybera gloves.
August 18, 2011 5:01 PM - minard lafever
"what is to stop anyone from tagging along if they dont pay the 10 dollars?"

being a dick

- Excellent!!


August 18, 2011 5:02 PM - MontroseMorris
I don't remember it, Won Ton. As Randi so nicely pointed out, I was in college in the 1970's. I've lost a lot of brain cells since then.
August 18, 2011 5:03 PM - Legion
dh,
Trees are great.
I never understood owners who didn't like trees.
First of all, they produce Oxygen, which is kind of important,
while soaking up Carbon Dioxide.
They provide shade and lower cooling costs in the summer.
They beautify the neighborhood and soak up tons of ground water so it doesn't end up in your basement.
And, they increase property value.
All these people say they are worried about roots in their sewer system,
so what, get a small tree then.

I've planted trees on every property I've owned.
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:03 PM
August 18, 2011 5:03 PM - MontroseMorris
BHI, that photo give me the shudders. Brrrr. Scary!
August 18, 2011 5:04 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Oh, I don't think tag-alongs will be a problem.
August 18, 2011 5:05 PM - dibs
Randi missed the 60s, 70s & 80s. No wonder he seems like such a moron, culturally bereft.
August 18, 2011 5:06 PM - dibs
Is that a capybera holster?????
August 18, 2011 5:07 PM - wendybear1
Snaps, buses are fine. Whichever way you get there, you do it just the same.
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:07 PM
August 18, 2011 5:08 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Don't worry Dave I'll stay off your lawn.
August 18, 2011 5:08 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
I cannot wait, Montrose. If things get out of hand I will just ding my bell until the miscreant leaves.
August 18, 2011 5:09 PM - MontroseMorris
I agree, Legion. Trees are wonderful things. I hate it on those HGTV shows when they just rip them up out of yards for someone's "vision" of the ultimate landscape.
August 18, 2011 5:09 PM - minard lafever
both Jim and Tammy Faye are dead now I think.
August 18, 2011 5:11 PM - dibs
Gordon Lightfoot is still alive.
August 18, 2011 5:11 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Yes, Minard. Dead.
August 18, 2011 5:15 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Markets plunge. Cue the mass hysteria.
August 18, 2011 5:15 PM - minard lafever
some trees are nicer than others.
August 18, 2011 5:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
not that i would do it cuz im not a dick, but you cant stop someone from tagging along a group of people. you are not a protected class of people. are you telling me there are bodyguards and police or something with you making sure people pay up? that makes no sense and is completely unenforceable.

*rob*

Edited at August 18, 2011 5:15 PM
August 18, 2011 5:16 PM - minard lafever
bhi, that is very disturbing I must say.
August 18, 2011 5:16 PM - dibs
rob, stop being a dick
August 18, 2011 5:18 PM - Arkady
It'd be easy to keep non-payers far enough away that they couldn't hear the commentary.
Trees are fine in their places - not dropping leaves into swimming pools & not shading gardens to such an extent that things cannot grow.
A/C was on for my cats the entire 3 weeks I was in the hospital last year. Having it in a small dog-house-type thing would be a LOT cheaper!
August 18, 2011 5:18 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im not BEING a dick, im asking an honest question about how something like this logistically works.

*rob*

August 18, 2011 5:19 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
Rob, you claim to be gay. Surely you know how a group of people can drive an interloper away with a few well-chosen glances or comments about weight or wardrobe choice.
August 18, 2011 5:20 PM - Legion
Montrose,
Last year I even got 8 peaches from one tree.
In Brooklyn, no less!

dibs,
how old is randi that he missed the 70's, 80's AND 90's?!

...the 80's was great just for the un-ironic goofiness of it all.
In those days, when you wore a mullet, you meant it.
Business in the front, party in the back.


Edited at August 18, 2011 5:20 PM
August 18, 2011 5:21 PM - dibs
60s, 70s and 80s, Legion He was born in 80 or 81 i think
August 18, 2011 5:21 PM - DeLepp
these pictures are terrifying today.
August 18, 2011 5:21 PM - Slopefarm
And in other news, forgot to mention yesterday that Dems held both seats. So dems bat 1000 on holding seats and GOP loses on-third of seats in play. At that rate, if the whole Wisc. senate was up for recall at once, Dems end up with 20-13 edge.

Meanwhile, here's Perry on evolution: "In Texas we teach both creationism and evolution, because I figure you're smart enough to figure out which one's right." As if those are equivalent, alternative scientific theories.

Edited at August 18, 2011 5:21 PM
August 18, 2011 5:22 PM - minard lafever
I know I lived all through the 1980's but I can't remember a thing about it.

August 18, 2011 5:22 PM - dibs
"Surely you know how a group of people can drive an interloper away with a few well-chosen glances or comments about weight or wardrobe choice."

I bet he's never seen The Boys In The Band.
August 18, 2011 5:22 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: I was born in the late 70s. Dave is just being a moron.

??
August 18, 2011 5:24 PM - minard lafever
is randolph's avatar Charlie Sheen?
August 18, 2011 5:24 PM - Arkady
Slopey - And I took his implication to be that creationism is the proper choice.
August 18, 2011 5:25 PM - Slopefarm
OK, adding to the list legion and I agree on:
The Ramones
Billie Holiday
[There was something else I can't remember] and now . . .
Trees. Yes, trees are good.
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:25 PM
August 18, 2011 5:26 PM - DeLepp
late 70s, sounds like my staff which don't get my 80s references or George Gobel.
August 18, 2011 5:27 PM - Not_Logged_In
Randolph: Cue Dave with Staff pun.....
August 18, 2011 5:28 PM - Legion
slopefarm and arkady,
Given the fact that the last two Democratic Presidents both indicated a belief in Creationism by way of their faith,
I don't see the point exactly?
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:28 PM
August 18, 2011 5:28 PM - brooklynheightsivyIII
I am going to my parents' house for drinks.
August 18, 2011 5:29 PM - minard lafever
That Perry guy is a menace.
Unfortunately New York doesn't matter at all in presidential elections.

Edited at August 18, 2011 5:29 PM
August 18, 2011 5:30 PM - Slopefarm
I took it that way, too, since he also said evolution is a theory with a few gaps in it.
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:30 PM
August 18, 2011 5:31 PM - Legion
"The Ramones
Billie Holiday
[There was something else I can't remember] and now . . .
Trees. Yes, trees are good"

Slopefarm,
We both like The Jam as well. ;o)
August 18, 2011 5:32 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
as much as i hate to jump into this, why is his comment about teaching creationism and evolution a problem? was there more to the statement? what'd i miss?
August 18, 2011 5:32 PM - Slopefarm
I am not aware that Obama or Clinton believe in the biblical creation story as scientific fact.
August 18, 2011 5:33 PM - Arkady
Who Dem believed in creationism?!? GWB did, Clinton didn't; even Carter is a theistic Darwinian.
August 18, 2011 5:34 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
i think "biblical creation story as a science fact" is kind of a misnomer. most religious folks would argue that creation's got nothing to do with science.
August 18, 2011 5:34 PM - Arkady
Creationism shouldn't be taught in schools. It debases education.
August 18, 2011 5:35 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
how does it debase education?
August 18, 2011 5:35 PM - minard lafever
in my house we took everything in the Old Testament with a wink and a nod.

August 18, 2011 5:38 PM - Legion
If they are Christian, as they both have said,
then they believe in the idea of God and their faith stems from the words of the Bible.
If not, that's fine, except that it would make them both liars.
In my reckoning, I'd rather have someone with some kind of solid belief in something than a liar as President.
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:38 PM
August 18, 2011 5:38 PM - Arkady
Because it's presented as science. It's fine in a 'world cultures' kind of class but not in a sciences discipline.
August 18, 2011 5:38 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
legion, don't say things i'd have to agree with. i'll be forced to scratch my eyeballs out.
August 18, 2011 5:39 PM - Arkady
People can be theists & still believe in evolution.
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:39 PM
August 18, 2011 5:39 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
but for some, it may be science. not the science everyone belives, but science nonetheless. just the same way that evolution may be science to some, but some don't believe it as science.
August 18, 2011 5:40 PM - Legion
Creationism doesn't debase education any more than the introduction of imaginary numbers or string theory does in the study of mathematics and physics.
The world still goes around the sun and people still argue with or without these ideas.
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:40 PM
August 18, 2011 5:41 PM - Slopefarm
"religious folks would argue that creation's got nothing to do with science"

I would agree. So, this is the dilemma and why I have a problem with it in schools. If it is a matter of faith, and not science, it should not be taught in public schools (except, perhaps, dispassionately in a class on religions or history of religion or something like that). It certainly should not be posited as a choice/alternative with evolution. And if it is a matter of faith, it should not be taught as science. Also,, why would one choose the biblical creation myth, as opposed to, say that of Hindus, or native Americans. And if it is being taught as science, where is the scientific method that supports such teaching?
August 18, 2011 5:42 PM - Legion
[searching for bag of wallnut shells to scratch eyes out]
snappy,
you know you've agreed with me on more than one occasion. ;o)
muhahahahahah
August 18, 2011 5:42 PM - Arkady
My hero:
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:42 PM
August 18, 2011 5:43 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
slopey, i can respect that argument. my only problem with creationism taught in schools isn't what class you teach it in, it's the fact that it's religion based and religion should not be taught in schools.
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:42 PM
August 18, 2011 5:43 PM - minard lafever
Christians are mostly interested in the New Testament. The Old Testament is basically a lengthy foreword or preamble. Even the most fundamental christians mix meat and dairy and don't have to circumcise their boy babies and etc. etc. American fundamentalists have an uneasy time with the OT. They kind of trip themselves with it. And Mormons believe they have the lost books of the Bible.


Edited at August 18, 2011 5:43 PM
August 18, 2011 5:43 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
legion, sorry, but no! but your last two comments i do agree with
::heaven help me!::

PASS THE WALNUT SHELLS!
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:43 PM
August 18, 2011 5:44 PM - Arkady
Well, Darwin & Slopey both.
August 18, 2011 5:46 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
yikes...i'm the last one left in a large and otherwise dark office! i'm going home!

nitey nite folks!
Edited at August 18, 2011 5:46 PM
August 18, 2011 5:49 PM - Legion
slopefarm,
I'm not sure in what context creationism is taught in schools at this point.
I would tend to agree that creationism, if taught, should be offered as a religious belief in a larger discussion of world religions.

That being said,
Given the recent dismal performace of American school kids on standardized testing, you can be sure that most children, if they are being taught creationism, are forgetting any and all discussion of the matter as soon as they get to the lunch room.
Those that continue in their educational endeavors probably sort these ideas out by the 6th grade.

In our increasingly secular and disconnected society, I doubt creationism will suddenly take hold of their imaginations any more than the Harry Potter anthology or the Twilight Saga.

Edited at August 18, 2011 5:49 PM
August 18, 2011 5:50 PM - infinitejester
"American fundamentalists have an uneasy time with the OT. They kind of trip themselves with it."

Respectfully disagree. This is why fundamentalists are so very pro-Israel, because of their reverence for the OT. Every fundmentalist preacher I watch/read constantly draws examples from the OT.
August 18, 2011 5:52 PM - minard lafever
I just got a call from BHI's parents, they are inviting me over for martinis and Saltines. Boy, will he be surprised to see me!
Bye all.

Edited at August 18, 2011 5:52 PM
August 18, 2011 5:54 PM - minard lafever
Infinte: that is pecisely what I meant by "trip themselves up" sorry to have been unclear.

August 18, 2011 5:55 PM - Arkady
Minard - Maybe they'll open the Gentlemen's Relish! (Yuck!)
August 18, 2011 5:55 PM - infinitejester
I read a book recently that said, "The couple served highballs at the cocktail hour and water with dinner, like used to be done."
August 18, 2011 5:56 PM - WonTon
Celery stuffed with cream cheese!
August 18, 2011 5:56 PM - BoerumHillScott
Fundamentalists do tend to pick and choose which laws from the Old Testament still apply, and they are not exactly consistent on how much of the Gospels they listen to either.

Jesus was pretty clear on the value of being wealthy.
August 18, 2011 6:01 PM - Slopefarm
legion -- I am more concerned about its use in undermining the teaching of scientific method. There's always something new substantively with science, and knowledge changes over time, but understanding method is essential. As for creation, there is a harm if it is taught in any way as a truth-claim -- a harm to the teaching of science and a harm to children being raised with different religious (or not) beliefs.
August 18, 2011 6:05 PM - Slopefarm
Took me a while to realize people were writing OT as shorthand for Old Testament, not, well, you know. As for fundamentalists and Israel, some of that is about Israel (and middle east conflict) as precursors to end times. Without the eschatology, Israel is just a matter of politics.
August 18, 2011 6:07 PM - infinitejester
No, it's about the mother country too, slope.
Edited at August 18, 2011 6:07 PM
August 18, 2011 6:14 PM - Legion
slopefarm,

I'm just not aware of it being taught as science to the extent that it competes with the scientific method.
I mean, I know there is ongoing debate about creationism being brought up sometime during early educational discussions of how plants and animals came into being.
As you know though, the scientific principles continue throughout the educational course work from 2nd to 12th grade. I have heard no news that creationism is brought up again in 6th grade Algebra or in 9th grade Materials Science for instance or 11th grade Biology.
The scientific method of hypothesis, analysis, conclusion, theory and consensus is well established and understood by most children by the 12th grade.
This doesn't even consider the formidible influence of family, friends, community and experience on an individual.
Those that believe will believe, those that don't, won't.

Edited at August 18, 2011 6:14 PM
August 18, 2011 6:21 PM - Donatella
"I don't want all those damn bikes in my neighborhood.
Stay off my lawn and don't lean those damn bikes on my railing."

Yeah...dat's the ticket. Get ridda dem all!!!

Snappy, I know where you are going on the bus to
buy sheets. Century 21, right!?! Best for towels too.

I just saw a car hit a guy on a motorcycle on my corner. The guy fell off and was bleeding and injured his leg
but was sort of limping, trying to walk (dumb) so didn't look too seriously injured. It was the car who was
at fault. Very upsetting. The driver was very angry and sort of yelling at the bleeding guy laying in the street but wised up and shut up and then the Firemen EMS guys came. Deep breath. Very scary.

BTW I am still too scared to ride my bike on the street. I am going to Red Hook early Sunday am. Then maybe Riis Park next week. No biking in traffic for me.

August 18, 2011 6:44 PM - bxgrl
Fundamentalists have no interest in the OT per se. As slopey says, it's about end times for them. Israel is where it's all supposed to happen so it isn't a matter of mother country either. For the fundamentalists, its all about them. I have heard people call the OT a precursor or preamble to the NT and I have to say that's only for those who believe in the NT. For Jews, the OT is the Bible and it is a stand alone document. It is also the document of a living religion, not an incomplete religion.
August 18, 2011 6:51 PM - bxgrl
That's awful, Dona. A guy I know was killed a few weeks ago on his motorcycle. Very sad.
Edited at August 18, 2011 6:51 PM
August 18, 2011 6:54 PM - BoerumHillScott
Fundamentalists use the OT when they need to find the 2 or 3 passages used to justify why homosexuality is wrong.

August 18, 2011 6:56 PM - BoerumHillScott
After seeing the effect of a motorcycle accident under my window a couple of nights ago, I don't think I would ever go on the streets on a motorcycle or bicycle.
August 18, 2011 6:57 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
for the sake of clarification, who is widely considered fundamentalist?
August 18, 2011 7:06 PM - BoerumHillScott
I use the term fundamentalists as synonym for "socially conservative Christian".
More accurately, my understanding is the term refers to someone who believes the Bible is infallible and should be taken as literal truth.

Southern Baptists and many evangelical non-denominational churches are usually considered to be fundamentalists.
August 18, 2011 7:07 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I think most religions believe the Bible to be infallible, the literal thing, I only see Orthodox Judaism as being in that category (mixing milk and meat, etc.).
August 18, 2011 7:12 PM - Donatella
My thoughts about bicycles and bicycle riding in traffic has become crystalized.
I believe that the ideas about biking sharing NYC roads as a wonderful, healthful, fossil fuel alternative
faciliated by bike lanes is a complete delusion. I really think that biking is extremely dangerous and
that the bike lanes are NOT good for bikers. They actually lull people into thinking that they are safe.
At any moment on our skinny, commercially clogged streets, bike lanes can be blocked by UPS trucks,
delivery trucks of any kind, double parkers (and there is a whole informal set of "illegal by not enforceable"
rules about double parking), pot holes, drivers doing K turns, U turns legal or illegal, construction and the
list goes on and on. Drivers have so many variables now in negotiating already chaotic streets that
a second of inattention can kill a bicyclist. How about a distracted person getting out of their parked car -
a second of inattention -- and they can "door" and kill a bicycle rider. I am not even thinking about bike riders
who do crazy things. I really believe that bikes don't belong in NYC traffic and if I had a kid, I would buy them
a bike, a helmet and take them to a park or boardwalk or a bike path.....not tell them to go play in traffic.
And how is it different for people on motorcycles? It is so dangerous here , it's nuts.

August 18, 2011 7:27 PM - Arkady
Many religions treat the bible as folklore: i.e. the universe wasn't created in 7 days - that's just a poetic metaphor. That's not to say they don't see it as 'truth', but they don't take certain things quite so literally as fundamentalists do. For one thing, you can support totally opposing arguments w/ sayings of any of the prophets who weren't known for consistency.
August 18, 2011 7:44 PM - Donatella
The Catholic church accepts the fact that the world has grown in scientific knowledge and that
when the Old Testament was written this scientific knowledge didn't exist. However, the belief is
that that is not to say that there isn't a metaphoric truth in what has been written.
August 18, 2011 7:45 PM - infinitejester
No, it's mother country too, not just end times. Otherwise the Jerusalem Syndrome would have no explanation. Believe it or not, fundamentalists aren't all about being antagonists.
August 18, 2011 7:46 PM - infinitejester
Technically, for Christians, the Abrahamic covenant in the OT is replaced by the New Covenant of Jesus Christ. As I constantly say in my small groups, Christianity is a very subtle, intellectual faith.
Edited at August 18, 2011 7:46 PM
August 18, 2011 8:01 PM - minard lafever
snappy, there are the Jewish fundamentalists who believe that every word of the Torah (the first three books of the old testament) were dictated by God and are literally the only real truth. and there are Christian fundamentalists who believe that every word of both the new and old testament is literally true although since the gospels sometimes contradict each other and the old testament has so many arcane and downright weird rules (women are unclean after menstruation and must sacrifice birds at the temple as part of the purification ritual etc etc -as one example) even the fundamentalists pick and choose. Some American christian fundamentalists believe in something called the Rapture, which is when the righteous will be physically transported to heaven and this will only happen at the end of days, which will begin with the destruction of Jerusalem. Hence their interest in Israel. it is very arcane and mysterious, but then that is precisely the draw of religion for many.
August 18, 2011 8:32 PM - petebklyn
I think minard and donatella need to be banned for such long posts.

also please limit religious discussions to whatever sabbath you keep.
August 18, 2011 8:37 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
sorry i've been mia on the last part of this dicussion. snappy family argument has gotten outta hand. and of course, i'm playing peace maker. if it weren't a school night i'd suck down another beer.

::sigh::

gonna go shove my head under some pillows. nite folks
Edited at August 18, 2011 8:37 PM
August 18, 2011 8:41 PM - BoerumHillScott
Family arguments are never much fun, but beer makes everything better.

I have been enjoying the lightning show outside this evening.
August 18, 2011 9:40 PM - rf
The Torah is the first 5 books of the Old Testament. (Not 3.)
Edited at August 18, 2011 9:40 PM
August 19, 2011 12:03 AM - bxgrl
I dislike fundamentalists of any ilk-but for the most part Orthodox Jews are not fundamentalist. The ultra-orthodox- Satmars, Lubavitcher- are. The one thing I find about most fundamentalists is that they are close-minded, insist that their religious beliefs are the only true ones and have no compassion (other than what is paid by lip service) for other human beings if they are not of the same beliefs.

On the other hand, the Southern Baptists and the Salvation Army run two of the finest disaster relief organizations in the world and there rules forbid them from proselytizing when they are doing disaster relief. Some of the best people I met were SB's and Sallie Anns. So there are fundamentalists who do good for the sake of humanity. (Now thoroughly blowing my own arguemnt apart).